Thank you guys so much for this. I left med school in the 3rd year, just got my Masters in Nutrition, and am realizing I can't imagine doing anything other than medicine (with a strong preventative focus)....at 35. (BTW, finishing my MS, this was the first year since I was 16 that I couldn't train lol). I have no idea how I'm going to make the financials work--I'll actually have to redo the whole thing since it's been 9 years--but like you said...if that's the only way you can live with yourself, you have to go for it. Thank you.
you probably dont give a shit but does someone know of a trick to log back into an instagram account..? I was dumb forgot my password. I would appreciate any assistance you can offer me!
Great episode! I’m doing a PhD in engineering and a lot of the stuff you guys discussed is true in my case as well, especially the study habits, time management and training parts. Keep up the great content!
I can't help but think Jordan would have had a much easier time getting in to the med school of his choice if he had "donated a building" or Felicity Huffman'd his way in.
That's a no brainer..... and of course that story is already fading. In a few weeks no one will know about it. Too many powerful and influential people involved, they will surely kill the story.
Incredibly useful episode!!! It’s so hard to find real life experiences about medical school. Med school is kind of my impossible dream lol but I went into basic science so I still enjoy medical science immensely.
Awesome video, thanks so much for the time and effort of putting this information out into the universe! You guys have helped me more than you'll ever know ❤️
The way these two interact, met etc... it is a veritable Love Story!! Good for you guys... hope you two appreciate how rare that is, if you ever stop being friends or, for wife or other reasons, distance yourselves from each other, you will see just how rare this TYPE of friendship is. Normally IF YOU DON'T let your "loved ones", like a wife who suddenly find they are "competing" with the friend for time and attention and start to force you to "decide" etc... well, normally this type of friendship last longer than most marriages. But those types of people are pretty good at distancing you from friends without you even noticing, it's a slow process, but they got all the time in the world, like the rest of your life to do it... careful guys, I know you must still be in the infatuation phase with girlfriends or wives... careful. For what is worth, I think you guys found the perfect balance between sick people and healthy people with this barbell medicine part of your lives. I'd love to see you still friends and stronger twenty years from now.
@Santiago Trestini Yea, well... she would. Though she has no reason to be if she is NOT like that. Hope heir relationshit last AS LONG as this great friendship. I mean, statistics about it should give any man pause for thought, more than half don't let, that isn't me saying it, it is statistically true, and these guys love to quote studies and facts and numbers, would you jump out of a plane if half the parachutes didn't open?... me neither... Isn't it strange how women grab med guys in the last year of school or right after??? mmmmm Hope they have a great lasting marriage though. Just saying this friendship is great and complementary.
Hey guys! New sub who just found your channel. I'm a PA-S that's about to start clinical rotations and really enjoyed the video! Glad to know i'm not crazy trying to balance lifting with school.
doctor suicide rates: the outright bullying they endure from older doctors who supervise them or the older students is a huge factor, they insist on demeaning them and showing them how much they don't know (they are FIRST YEAR students!!) and they take all of the person's time, all of it... once they have to go to hospital to do twelve to twenty four hour shifts and still go to school and lots of homework, I would say UNREASONABLE homework, LIKE READING FIVE CHAPTERS OF A BOOK in one day plus other things they need to do... so yea, I guess if you consider how much effort and time and MONEY they already have prior to getting into med school and they see and live this shit.... I can see why their rates of suicide MUST BE higher. And on top of that, they see what their lives will look and be like after med school, what do they have to look forward to?? Plus most people stupidly get hooked, or ARE HOOKED, with a wife prior or right after graduation from med school... insane!! It is a lot of factors, all of them TOO shitty. You two are an exception to the rule.
@@sigmaman5562 Yea... they adopt the military mentality of crushing you to a pulp and then "rebuild" you into a soldier, or in this case a "doctor"... they take their sons and replace them with a lot of bullshit where they end up feeling superior to all their clients or people who seek there advice or solutions, they come to them OF COURSE weak and in their worst conditions, no wonder in general doctors feel so superior to their clients, they LEARNED to demean people from other doctors, like if you tell them you read on your condition on the internet or that you examined the statistics for this or that, the doctor tell you something crushing and demanding like "Oh, another internet doctor... everyone is a doctor nowadays from reading on the internet, I don't know why I went to medical school if I could have just read on it in the internet..." I hear this shit from one of them when I went with my sister to see, I told her lets get the fuck out of here, and THE DOCTOR acts like he is the victim and doesn't know why we got offended.... It is also a fallacy that people think most doctors go into it for true vocation of service, go the the most affluent places on earth and see the disproportionate number of doctors in those areas!! Yea, "vocation" my ass. California FOR EXAMPLE has a huge disproportion of plastic surgeons! While war scarred places who need reconstructions have zero doctors.
>5th year undergrad after changing from public health to pharmacy to ultimately dentistry >2.6 GPA from lack of direction Them: stick to pharmacy, anyone with a pulse rate can get in to pharmacy Me: game fucking on
Go PA or NP. being a doctor is great, but the amount you actually pull in money wise is negate by high prices of malpractice insurance. Also, most hospitals clinic looking for more primary care physicians.
@@nl2457 that's a shitty excuse that people in the field use for treating physicians like shit. It's a job. And like any professional job, you should be paid fairly for your time and not be held to insane standards.
+Smoo7hy Here in Sweden full time job is maximum 40 hours per week. No occupation works more than that which is great. Most doctors will have to work nightshifts which will interfere with your sleep schedule and gains + if you are a heart surgeon for example it can be very stressful because of the emotional pressure involved. If you want to avoid all this pick Radiology, no families screaming, crying, no emotional pressure and no nightshifts. I do not know how it works in other countries because it varies from country to country, for example in the US many doctors have to work 70+ hours a week. Here in Sweden no one does that.
These docs are great, and I'm a huge fan....................but docs, if you're listening, try to expunge the gratuitous "like"s from your conversations. Love you both.
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I think this is the most I've ever seen Austin talk and definitely the most animated lol. Both brilliant men and great lifters.
really glad you both touched on how to study...it's unbelievable that schools don't go over this and it can save so much time
Thank you guys so much for this. I left med school in the 3rd year, just got my Masters in Nutrition, and am realizing I can't imagine doing anything other than medicine (with a strong preventative focus)....at 35. (BTW, finishing my MS, this was the first year since I was 16 that I couldn't train lol). I have no idea how I'm going to make the financials work--I'll actually have to redo the whole thing since it's been 9 years--but like you said...if that's the only way you can live with yourself, you have to go for it. Thank you.
you probably dont give a shit but does someone know of a trick to log back into an instagram account..?
I was dumb forgot my password. I would appreciate any assistance you can offer me!
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awesome video i clicked on, i find that spaced repetition helps me very much through my current training as a neurosurgeon
Great episode! I’m doing a PhD in engineering and a lot of the stuff you guys discussed is true in my case as well, especially the study habits, time management and training parts. Keep up the great content!
I can't help but think Jordan would have had a much easier time getting in to the med school of his choice if he had "donated a building" or Felicity Huffman'd his way in.
That's a no brainer..... and of course that story is already fading. In a few weeks no one will know about it. Too many powerful and influential people involved, they will surely kill the story.
Best BBM podcast so far!!
I was an SP at EVMS for years, I remember you guys!
We learned the beginning of the bromance
Finally got into med school a few months ago, this was awesome to watch. Need to hold onto my gains
Incredibly useful episode!!! It’s so hard to find real life experiences about medical school. Med school is kind of my impossible dream lol but I went into basic science so I still enjoy medical science immensely.
Love the references to RadOnc - usually, nobody knows we exist!
Remember jordan saying he had such a rough time in med school but in this vid he says he had a lot of fun
Yay! lolz 3rd year and intern year were the worst years of my life.
Enjoyed hearing you guys talk about your med school years. Thanks for taking the time to put together this extended podcast.
Amazing interview , wish u could do more of these ! Thank u !
Awesome video, thanks so much for the time and effort of putting this information out into the universe! You guys have helped me more than you'll ever know ❤️
Audio quality and visual quality has stepped up!
The way these two interact, met etc... it is a veritable Love Story!!
Good for you guys... hope you two appreciate how rare that is, if you ever stop being friends or, for wife or other reasons, distance yourselves from each other, you will see just how rare this TYPE of friendship is.
Normally IF YOU DON'T let your "loved ones", like a wife who suddenly find they are "competing" with the friend for time and attention and start to force you to "decide" etc... well, normally this type of friendship last longer than most marriages.
But those types of people are pretty good at distancing you from friends without you even noticing, it's a slow process, but they got all the time in the world, like the rest of your life to do it... careful guys, I know you must still be in the infatuation phase with girlfriends or wives... careful.
For what is worth, I think you guys found the perfect balance between sick people and healthy people with this barbell medicine part of your lives.
I'd love to see you still friends and stronger twenty years from now.
@Santiago Trestini
Yea, well... she would.
Though she has no reason to be if she is NOT like that. Hope heir relationshit last AS LONG as this great friendship.
I mean, statistics about it should give any man pause for thought, more than half don't let, that isn't me saying it, it is statistically true, and these guys love to quote studies and facts and numbers, would you jump out of a plane if half the parachutes didn't open?... me neither... Isn't it strange how women grab med guys in the last year of school or right after??? mmmmm
Hope they have a great lasting marriage though. Just saying this friendship is great and complementary.
“I don’t really like kids.” Hahahaha I have two kids and love them with all my heart, but completely understand your position.
You guys are awesome at being humans
Hey guys! New sub who just found your channel. I'm a PA-S that's about to start clinical rotations and really enjoyed the video! Glad to know i'm not crazy trying to balance lifting with school.
Great content, as always guys! Looking forward to attending the San Antonio seminar later this month.
So glad I found this! Starting UABSOM in the fall!! Nearing the end of LP
That intro is great. Keep it.
Great insights! Thanks for sharing your experiences.
doctor suicide rates:
the outright bullying they endure from older doctors who supervise them or the older students is a huge factor, they insist on demeaning them and showing them how much they don't know (they are FIRST YEAR students!!) and they take all of the person's time, all of it... once they have to go to hospital to do twelve to twenty four hour shifts and still go to school and lots of homework, I would say UNREASONABLE homework, LIKE READING FIVE CHAPTERS OF A BOOK in one day plus other things they need to do... so yea, I guess if you consider how much effort and time and MONEY they already have prior to getting into med school and they see and live this shit.... I can see why their rates of suicide MUST BE higher. And on top of that, they see what their lives will look and be like after med school, what do they have to look forward to??
Plus most people stupidly get hooked, or ARE HOOKED, with a wife prior or right after graduation from med school... insane!!
It is a lot of factors, all of them TOO shitty.
You two are an exception to the rule.
In a discussion, I once said to a US (UltraSound) tech, “…and you are on call twenty-seven hours a day.”
He replied, “It certainly feels like it.”
@@sigmaman5562
Yea... they adopt the military mentality of crushing you to a pulp and then "rebuild" you into a soldier, or in this case a "doctor"... they take their sons and replace them with a lot of bullshit where they end up feeling superior to all their clients or people who seek there advice or solutions, they come to them OF COURSE weak and in their worst conditions, no wonder in general doctors feel so superior to their clients, they LEARNED to demean people from other doctors, like if you tell them you read on your condition on the internet or that you examined the statistics for this or that, the doctor tell you something crushing and demanding like "Oh, another internet doctor... everyone is a doctor nowadays from reading on the internet, I don't know why I went to medical school if I could have just read on it in the internet..." I hear this shit from one of them when I went with my sister to see, I told her lets get the fuck out of here, and THE DOCTOR acts like he is the victim and doesn't know why we got offended.... It is also a fallacy that people think most doctors go into it for true vocation of service, go the the most affluent places on earth and see the disproportionate number of doctors in those areas!! Yea, "vocation" my ass. California FOR EXAMPLE has a huge disproportion of plastic surgeons! While war scarred places who need reconstructions have zero doctors.
When are you guys going to interview Charlie Dickson..?
Probably once he's done with his internship.
Austin Baraki It’s cool you guys go against each other at nationals and stuff now.
Austin Baraki He's done his internship now the mans a DPT come on let's get Charlie on.
for jordan, what exposure or thoughts did you have about pm&r in medical school? relatively cush hours as a residency and fits your background well.
God DAMN your guys' step 1 scores were high
fire intro
Interesting episode, keep it up!!! :-)
>5th year undergrad after changing from public health to pharmacy to ultimately dentistry
>2.6 GPA from lack of direction
Them: stick to pharmacy, anyone with a pulse rate can get in to pharmacy
Me: game fucking on
Ye zus. 300k debt? 🙇 From an european point of view some parts of the podcast are really bizarre.
Physician salary is upwards of 150K starting. Taxes are lower here and your education isn't covered so it's really not that bad.
Did you mean for this to go up on Match Day? 😂
Busted
This is borderline asmr
Watch Ali Abdaal’s video on evidence based study techniques. Thank me later
Idols❤️❤️❤️
Go PA or NP. being a doctor is great, but the amount you actually pull in money wise is negate by high prices of malpractice insurance. Also, most hospitals clinic looking for more primary care physicians.
Chris Scars Not everyone who becomes a physician does so because of the money. If your only goal is making money, there are much better options
@@nl2457 that's a shitty excuse that people in the field use for treating physicians like shit. It's a job. And like any professional job, you should be paid fairly for your time and not be held to insane standards.
Sweet video! Anyone know what type of headphones those are?
Sony
Wait... do high schools normally make you pay to take the AP exams? I've taken 8 AP exams and never had to pay to test.
i think they were referring to CLEP at that time. CLEP you have to pay for if you want credit for classes you don't take AP courses for.
@@kaitlynkilpatrick36 Oh yeah I forgot about CLEP exams. Thanks for clarifyimg :)
I had to pay like 90$ per test to take AP exams in high school. I think it just depends on the school or state.
Best specialty for gains? EM?
Obv ortho...
Ortho as that guy above me stated
@@reezis1619 i mean gains in terms of time off and easy schedule. im thinking psyc!
+Smoo7hy Here in Sweden full time job is maximum 40 hours per week. No occupation works more than that which is great. Most doctors will have to work nightshifts which will interfere with your sleep schedule and gains + if you are a heart surgeon for example it can be very stressful because of the emotional pressure involved. If you want to avoid all this pick Radiology, no families screaming, crying, no emotional pressure and no nightshifts. I do not know how it works in other countries because it varies from country to country, for example in the US many doctors have to work 70+ hours a week. Here in Sweden no one does that.
@@reezis1619 more like 80 is the limit, but sometime we end up working more brah,
Max bench 😈
Jordan looks hella dark in the thumbnail.
In the sense of wickedness?
Like tan lol
These docs are great, and I'm a huge fan....................but docs, if you're listening, try to expunge the gratuitous "like"s from your conversations. Love you both.