Disney brought a controversial move into canon
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
- Episode 5 of Star Wars The Acolyte brought into canon something that was considered a very controversial lightsaber combat form.
#StarWars #Disney #TheAcolyte 
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1:02 - Apologies, I meant to have said The Empire Stikes Back. I was watching Episode III today lol
- Charlie
The audio clip was kinda to quite, couldn't hear it to much. But if he does use the technique it means he isn't a true sith, probably a sith wanna be. The Sith were mythical at this point, probably a believer
No worries, Remember when Anakin blow up the Death Star?
*Demolition* *Man* *(1993)*
The way the Jedis are portrayed in The Acolyte are similar to the cops in Demolition Man. They’re soft and stupid. In Demolition Man, Los Angeles became safe. Hardly any major crimes. Sex happens with VR headsets. You get a fine for cursing. That’s what’s happening in the High Republic Era. Jedis have become soft and complacent which made them inept when handling criminals like a Sith.
People should check out Demolition Man, it’s Stallone’s funniest movie and one of Snipes’ funniest movies up there with White Men Can’t Jump (1992).
Simon Phoenix vs. the cops
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Here’s The Acolyte’s Ep. 5’s stupid moment after stupid moment.
- Jedis had several chances landing a fatal blow at Qimir but didn’t including Jecki aiming for the head as if Qimir is Thanos when she could’ve stabbed him through the back. Had to make the fight look more dramatic. Then another scene when Jecki saves Mae by jumping against a stone and we see Sol could’ve landed a blow from behind. Plot armor galore.
- Osha does nothing mostly but stand there and watch. A team player. Then when she shoots Qimir once, she had to aim high where his helmet is. Didn’t notice Qimir was headbutting the lightsabers to short circuit them.
- A lightsaber can’t penetrate through Cortosis but a female padawan’s elbow can break Smilo’s helmet as if it was made out of egg shells.
- Osha prevents Sol from killing Qimir. Um, didn’t Osha leave the Jedi Order when she was 18? How did she all of a sudden become the chief of police and Sol has to listen to her? Didn’t she watch her friends in Jecki and Yord die? Why should she care what Sol does to Qimir if she no longer is a Jedi?
- When Sol doesn’t kill Qimir, he watches Qimir pick up the lightsaber from the ground with the Force while Sol is ready to get slashed before Osha does her Pip thing which basically frees Qimir from any type of arrest. Where are the handcuffs to arrest these types of people?
- Why does Osha drop the blaster on the ground? She shoots Mae with it and then we see Mae shoot Sol from the same area Osha shot Mae. Then Mae shoots Sol from behind. Um, didn’t Sol just save Mae from a lightsaber piercing right through her skull? Then she tells Osha that the Jedis are no good. A Jedi just saved her life only two minutes ago! 😂
- Mae decides to go Arryk Cargyll but without a Criston A-Hole telling her. But shouldn’t Sol see Mae’s witch markings and the burnt, smoky tips of her hair? So is Ep. 6 going to turn into The Parent Trap (1961/1998) where Sol is completely clueless that’s Mae? Will Bazil notify him that’s Mae?
“We’re police officers. We’re not trained to handle that kind of violence.”
- Erwin (Rob Schneider) in Demolition Man
The official motto of the Uvalde, Texas police department and the Jedis during the High Republic Era.
Yoda: "How embarrassing"
Empire is the best of all 3, like Dante hicks said. It ends on a down note, just like real life, a series of down notes. Some may say blasphemy. Now I want to watch Episode III thanks to you lmao, for real and I will. Waiting for the postman to throw my 420 puff puff stuff in the mailbox and during the sesh I will watch Ep. III.
Jedi: "Such a tactic is dishonorable!"
Sith: "If you do that, you're gay."
😂
I c wut u did dare.
Yep XD
*Juhani accepts the challenge*
So that's what they meant with The Acolyte being the "gayest Star Wars yet", it was because of Qimir's fighting style ! 😂
“We haven’t seen it in canon or live action yet”
*shows it being used in ahsoka*
This is a clip where *I believe it was used.* But it was mentioned nowhere. Nor was it acknowledged on the wiki pages or by LucasFilm themselves.
- Charlie
@@EcksClips Should also note Merrick is neither Sith or Jedi. We don't know if Merrick was a fallen Jedi taken in or one found and trained. Either way they aren't trained very specifically in Jedi or Sith trainings. Which means he could have used it. Or he just randomly turned his lightsaber on and off in combat because his blade was still extended during that moment. My guess is he is a former Jedi padawan since he was seen during a period in which they were scooping them up. He knows about it and used that technique in combat. In the end it didn't help him all that much.
Jedi: He's a traitor using techniques he shouldn't.
Sith: He's a bitch. Never was a Sith to begin with.
Qimir is questionable too. Is he Sith? The way he phrased it was you would call me a Sith. Not I am Sith. He doesn't actually say he is one. If you're one. Then he wouldn't outright say he is one. First he's force trained with a lightsaber. So keeping the secret is more important than not. So he would never outright say he is one or shouldn't. If he is a Sith then he is very shitty master or a very shitty apprentice. If he isn't Sith or Jedi Qimir will not have qualms about using something each order doesn't like. If he is one. He's a lot more not caring about the secret and ways of either order. I get not caring for what the Jedi think. What the Sith thinks. If he is the Master he's not caring. If he isn't his master finds out that is a sign of weakness and weakness can't be tolerated.
@@EcksClips It was also used in Fallen Order when Trilla and Cal fought on Bogano.
@@EcksClipsAcolite episode 5 is the best star wars thing I have ever seen.
These fights and choreography surpassed both the Phantom Menace movie and the clone wars episode.
@@EcksClips Ahsoka used it in Rebels when she thought the inquisitor in season 2 episode 9. She used the force to turn the sisters lightsaber off.
"you can't its dishonorable, its cowardly"
"yeah well your dead and I'm not so I win"
In a real fight, there aren't any rules, so it tracks for me. I loved this; Qimir is brutal.
@@prestonroberts2941 doesn’t make sense that it’s dishonorable or cowardly. Like imagine reloading in a gun fight is dishonorable because having more bullets is not fair 😂
Same argument as why are there laws about what is counted as warcrime.
Like it's *War*, does it matter if what I did is a warcrime in order to win?
@@rowlinzonvaldeavilla3964 Yea but the distinction is in the spiritual weight of combat within Star Wars and specifically between force users. There is no neutral combat for a force user, all lightsaber combat is a reflection of the user's philosophy and psychic alignment. Irl you just kill to survive, in their universe they're fighting while connected to a universal energy field that makes their desires, ambitions, and beliefs manifest. If you pull some "pussy" shit as a force user you're basically reinforcing it out in the galaxy that you neither respect other life enough to honor it's value nor believe in yourself enough to impose your sheer will on others, few are gonna go that route.
@@Zliarx no thats different, those are laws that everyone abides by to not destroy the world, Lightsaber flicking is not illegal it's just "dishonorable"
Sith: weak
Jedi: dishonorable
Pragmatists: parry this, lmao
“Parry This you filthy casual!”
*don't parry this, lmao
Should we point out he had to stab Jeckie 3 times. Cause we all have learned stabbing someone once is meaningless. Unless you Qui Gon.
All of us: "characters can't lightsaber fight because we know they can survive, disney!"
Jecki: *triple stabbed*
Yord: *neck snapped*
Us: ... :c
And Cere too
its also funny that one of the other jedi in the group died with a single stab to the chest too. It requires multiple stabs unless they are not important to the plot, or if the plot requires it
@@thanatoes537tbh...doesnt he also even like slice them too after? I swear I saw like he stabbed blocked another but also slicing the dude who was stabbed. Of course yeah your point still stands too even if they do the best to get in multiple hits. You need to just think "hey the story is: he kills them." 😂 aka no matter the wounds you dead.
@@thanatoes537 Weren't they also then decapitated?
Trakata was brought into canon back when Jedi: Fallen Order came out. Cal Kestis used it against his fight with the Ninth Sister
Pretty sure it was the 2nd Sister aka Trilla but yeah Trakata has been in cannon
There was also this one dungeon where 3 princes ambush you and one of them uses it
@@jjbutternubz664 this guy also has a knack for bashing people’s lightsabers, which is genius.
Vader didn’t fight Luke in Revenge of the Sith
That confused me too lmfao
Of course he did cuz Anakin blew up the death star
Addressed, apologies for the mistake!
- Charlie
He did, just like Anakin blew up the death star
@@EcksClips ahhh we don’t mind man, no need for apologies!
"You can't do that! It's dishonorable!"
"Dishonor is a point of view."
You can't do that that is dishonorable *mind fucks a POW's mind*
An elegant weapon from a more civilized age *literally dismembers a child*
Blasters a brutes weapon *does a no scope with a sniper rifle and hits*
Dishonour smiles on my family
@@harrietr.5073 honour is blinding
In short: Its a huge logical flaw that ever existed in star wars (because it makes too much sense of using it) and they came up with equally flawed explanations why its not used wich makes another dumb thing for when someone does. It would be the first thing id try but it becomes a named 'style' instead. Frankly canon couldve fixed it easier saying sabers have some cooldown- wich btw couldve been made cool like some saying similar to how katanas were meant to 'be drawn only to be bloodied'. Dont turn your saber on unless to really use it, dont turn it off until its finished...
It’s been used a few times in canon including the scene in ahsoka referenced above and it was done by Cal Kestis towards the end of Jedi Fallen Order
Wait we did? I didn't notice
@@zygas25 yeah the battle with Trilla in the vault. She and Cal were in a lockup and he turns his saber off letting trilla fall past him.
This reminds me of the parody clips of Anakin pranking Obi Wan with this during their training sessions :')
SAME LOLOL XD
Well I hope the Force Police doesn’t notice the unsportsmanlike conduct of murderers.
Controversial or not: if it works - it works
facts lol
Same as chemicals and biological weapons. But screw Geneva right...?
@@dredeth is this an anakin skywalker burner account ?
@@dredeth no, we're dealing with one opponent and not necessary with a death end.
It shouldn't be controversial at all. However the orders have rules. He broke them. Which leads to more questions. Why if he is a Sith did he show such weakness to the enemy? If he is a master he doesn't care for the rules of the Sith either. Okay he doesn't care but that needs to be explained which I'm sure they'll get to. If he is the apprentice then his master finds out. He is showing weakness to the enemy. Which might be a reason for the master to show up and get rid of him.
I'm not sure if this was Trakata. He could have thrust the shorter lightsaber in and out three times, as well.
"Both the good and bad guys refuse to use it even in life or death situations because it's dishonorable" is just a cop-out by the writers. It's a way to avoid admitting that they can't think of a way it would be effectively countered. Which is stupid on a meta-level, because the counter is that your opponent would see it coming, and turning your saber off creates a gigantic opening they could exploit. Lightsaber battles are fights between precogs: both sides can see into the future. You "win" by either having better stamina or skill diffing them. The only way flicking your lightsaber on and off could work is if you're powerful enough to passively fog up the force like Sideous was, and hide the fact that it's coming. And if you're that strong, you don't need it.
Cal uses trakata in both games lmao
Yeah, even common Star Wars fans know this. Shit like this is why these "stan" accounts are bullshit. They just want views without knowing basic facts about the fandom they cater to.
When? I’ve played through Fallen Order’s story four times and don’t remember that ever happening. And the only instance in Survivor I can remember is when he disguised himself as Santari to get close enough to stab Dagan.
@@Rhycizin the duel on bogano with the 2nd sister
@@Coley0120 and i think in survivor theres a stance that allows you to do trakata
Shit man I’d say desperate times call for desperate measures but this is also the same dude groaning about the order being gone so clearly he’s just being a hypocrite. Typical Jedi shit I guess
“Darth Vader uses it against Luke in Revenge of the Sith.”
Return of the Jedi*
It was The Empire Strikes Back, actually 🤓☝️
Bro is slipping.
Jedi: "Dishonor."
Sith: "No balls."
Imagine training your whole life as a Jedi only to become a Kabob. 🍢🤣
Everyone knows the rules
Sith Kebab.
That's sword fighting for you.
Pretty common 500 years ago
More like a şis kebab lmao, kebabs are essentially made the same way as McDonalds burgers with the same goo-like substance but on the other hand a şis kebab are pieces of heavily marinated pieces of meat, on hot coals like a BBQ.
I run a Döner kebab place called Ali Baba's and I hope I gave you some knowledge/lore on the world of Kebab making.
Chicken döner kebab and chicken dürum kebab are much better quality these days. And than you've got chicken şis kebab that's grilled chickenbreast.
Unless you marinate the beef yourself and make the kebab spinning rod freshly by yourself like this stranger did to the Jedi, freshly made instead of the frozen mcdo quality deliveries that other kebab joints get. *not an ad*.
Vader didn't fight luke in rots comments are coming
vader didnt fight look replies are coming
the main thing that just kind of annoys me about Disney Star Wars is when they depict a lightsaber turning off and on, it is shown being so fast as if you are pulling a trigger on a blaster
but when before it was always shown taking a second to retract and then ignite again.
Expecting Sith to be honorable is like expecting water to not make you wet 😂
That’s crazy you assume acolyte is canon
I have only heard of it once before but it's controversial in Star Wars universe as said both Jedi and Sith dislike the use of Trakataa yet here we see Qimir doing just that. To the Jedi, the use of Trakataa is dishonorable while to the Sith, it's considered a weakness. I actually find it funny both Jedi and Sith have different ideologies yet they both agree Trakataa is a style of fighting that must never be used. Then there is of course Cal Kestis who used it once to survive and Qimir calls himself a Sith but again it's self-proclaimed and he's already shown to be a dirty fighter.
Where has this ever been denounced in canon? I've never seen Jedi or Sith do so. It doesn't make sense for Sith to even care about "cowardice" they're in hiding the whole time
@@user-ze3sg6ix1u Not in canon but in lore within legends where both sides do not enjoy let alone approve of the use of Trakataa. I guess it's like an unsung rule among lightsaber wielders. I truthfully don't know the specifics. I imagine it's because cowardice would mean fearing your opponent and instead you yourself are afraid of losing and as such Sith whose ideology is to make foes fear them is why Trakataa is considered a technique that makes you look weak and that is something the Sith do not tolerate.
It's so stupid though. Sith should not be above fighting dirty. They should use everything at their disposal for their own gain.
@@Juel92 This just shows Sith and Jedi are merely both sides of the same coin. Jedi has a sense of honor among them and Sith carry a strong sense of pride. Admittedly it is stupid but most Sith are so full of themselves and how powerful they are that such techniques are simply beneath them.
@@VanishEclipse4867 I could see them not using it as long as they felt they had the advantage to show off. I could not see them losing a fight over it though.
Nothing Disney has done to Star Wars is canon.
That's a pretty cool fighting style imo, just takes advantage of the naives and the proud.
I mean imagine instead of turning on and off in the middle of a duel... Just purely use it as a light speed instance poking lance in combat, maybe with a longer handle. It would be a nightmare!
Jedi: No honor
Sith: No balls
Honestly I was all for it, that whole fight was actually really cool and one of the only scenes I enjoyed from the show so far. It’s definitely way better than the fights and choreography of the sequels.
I hate the idea of it being called a style or form of combat. It's a tactic that anyone can use if an opportunity presents itself. It's literally just turning your lightsaber off and on at critical moments. Even the example given in Acolyte is just a tactic that anyone with 2 lightsaber could do.
The idea it would be frowned on for any reason is asinine. Jedi don't fight for sport. Honor isn't a thing they would bother with, and they're not naive enough to worry about fighting fair. If a Jedi is forced to fight, they neutralize the threat as quickly and efficiently as possible. Sith, meanwhile, they do whatever they deem necessary to win. Only oddities among Jedi and Sith would complain about using such a basic tactic. The Jedi Path book even recommends it as a move Jedi Knights SHOULD study.
Agreed. Feels like they tried to fix a problem but did it in a horrible way (would have been way better if lightsabers just had a cooldown period for turning on and off).
Jedi: Not cool
Sith: No balls
If it is indeed Trakata, I would've liked to see more of him switching his saber on and off in the one on one versus Sol, at least. The whole second saber thing barely justifies an actual use of the style or "getting into the head of the opponent". His Cortosis armor did that a lot more.
To quote a not very good movie:
“You have no soul!”
“That is why I have no fear.”
"Likely just him trying to get into his head to make him unfocused in battle instead of actual psychological warfare"
But... getting in someone's head to make them less effective is the direct definition of psychological warfare.
Cal kestis actually used this first in jedi fallen order on the second sister fun fact.
I would like to propose the consideration that, even though the intention of the scene on the part of the creative team was to show Qimir using trakata with his shoto blade to kill Jecki, what the scene shows us, visually speaking, is not that, but the sith quickly thrust into her with a reverse grip.
Now I know, pointing out such a tiny discrepancy like this may seem like a huge waste of effort and brain power, but we're Star Wars fans, so you understand the feeling.
I recommend that after each observation, you watch the video again in slow motion to confirm my statements.
First, let's notice that Qimir's left arm, which holds the blade used in the attack, makes very abrupt movements with each stab of the lightsaber. It is a movement that indicates traditional handling of the blade, where he retracts and pushes his arm quickly, because if we consider that he simply deactivated and reactivated the blade, he would merely need to reposition his fist with each thrust, which does not appear to have happened.
Additionally, notice the way the sith positions each of his sabers. the longest in a horizontal block, protecting him from Jecki's attack while the second carries out the blow. Note that this positioning causes the light from the long saber to fall on the padawan's face and shoulders, while that of the shoto illuminates their torsos and the sleeves of her robe.
The red light on her and Qimir's torso is never dimmed. The saber is not turned off.
And finally, let's pay attention to the scene beats that make up this final part of the duel.
There is the moment when Qimir steps back, detaches the shoto blade from his main saber and activates its blade (we can not only see the saber emission, but also hear its traditional activation sound).
Jacki charges forward, screaming and preparing her blow.
Qimir blocks her strike and immediately (note that there is no sound of deactivation) he stabs her 3 times.
Sol screams.
We move to a closeup of Jacki in her last moments of life.
And then we see (and HEAR) HER saber deactivate.
She falls, revealing the blade that went through her torso, still attached.
These three observations indicate that what we are shown on screen is not a demonstration of the use of Trakata, but rather an intelligent and strategic use of a shoto saber, which with 3 quick thrusts killed a prodigious padawan learner.
I know that the official Star Wars website ATTESTS that Qimir used Trakata in his fight against the Jedi. However, this is not what we can observe objectively in this scene.
Perhaps the light is a result of using a practice saber during recording. Perhaps the light was not removed from the plate when it should have accompanied the supposed deactivation and reactivation of the saber.
Perhaps the extended movement of Qimir's arm is the result of the actor's involuntary action, who was not aware of the details of how the scene would take place.
Anyway, this is what I have to point out.
Thanks for listening.
I want to see more of the trakata style. It can look really good in the hands of capable choreographers and effects artists. But it can also look clunky and predicable if not planned out properly.
I'm of the opinion that it was used in this scene, and I think they utilized it very well.
Is it just me or what he does is just stabbing her 3 times, and not doing any on-off trick? You can clearly see his shoulder moving while he moves the short sword.
Is this scene before or after he kills Jaki with this method? I thought Yord refered to the opening fight among the trees in this line.
Using a dishonorable fighting style is a bit less of a problem than killing a kid and then pretending you're a victim. They didn't think this through very well.
"In Jedi culture this is considered a dick move"
Man, this episode had so many easter eggs in it
i think its cool because it shows that he isnt like the rest of the sith and shows that he doesnt care about how he wins just that he wins
Trakata only seems to make sense because people think the choreographed moves we see in the big screen is how Jedi and Sith would fight in universe.
It's like saying there's a forbidden technique in wrestling called "attack your opponent when he is not prepared" that nobody uses because it's considered unsportmanlike in universe.
You forgot the first time he used it. When Qimir turned those 2 jedi into a shishkabob he used it on the blue lightsaber chick.
Jedi: "No honor."
Sith: "No balls."
Trakata was used by Cal kestis in bogano against the 2nd sister or whenever he uses the switch and split saber combo, the bedlum raider lieutenants with saber staffs also use the style on Cal.
People saying turning off your lightsaber mid combat is OP have never been in a real lightsaber fight.
Turning it off leaves you exposed and it’s not hard to track where the blade would be and move out the way or block when it’s about to be turned on. Especially as a Jedi.
And doing this with two is no different as you are weaker with the force holding two blade compared to someone who can and you are weaker in strength having to split your strength between two blades where a one handed user can force the blade physically in your face
I don't blame them for not having the experience of a real fight, seeing as real lightsaber fights don't exist.
Trakata only makes sense if you don't think about it for more than three seconds. In a lightsaber duel, you're fighting against an opponent with a weapon that can cut (or burn) through you with basically zero effort. The only means of defending against that weapon is to either evade it or deflect it with your own lightsaber. If you're fighting against a real person who is actively trying to hit you rather than an actor performing a badly choreographed lightsaber duel scene, turning off your lightsaber in the middle of a fight is going to result in instant death 99% of the time. The thing that's so frustrating about this to me is that the reason given in lore for why it's rarely used is just because it's considered "dishonorable" by both the jedi and sith. A more realistic explanation for why this technique is used so rarely is that the vast majority of people who attempted it are dead, but the writers would need to have an IQ above room temperature to comprehend this.
This episode was so cool I know this show gets a lot of hate for valid reasons but man does it have cool fight scenes
"Call me what you will, but I'm the one alive"
Everything disney does is not canon...
Reminds me of how different are the old Sith compared to the Rule of Two Sith. It’s founder, Darth Bane, once fought another Sith called Qordis. Bane was far more powerful, and Qordis knew it, so he decided to challenge Bane to a lightsaber duel. I don’t remember the exact words he used, but he told Bane something like: “at least allow me to die with honor”. Bane then used his force powers to crush his body, and concluded that Honor was a shield the weak used to slow down the strong. Makes sense that the Sith Lords that followed valued manipulation, deception and cunning: culminating in Darth Sidious as we all know.
"Wasn't shown in cannon"
Proceeds to show it in Ahsoka
it's interesting how turning off your main source of defense and leaving you open to getting cut with life sabers or blaster lasers be considered "cowardice". That is by far one of the boldest moves you can pull off, and puts you in a lot of danger, a coward would definitely not turn it off at any time during a fight.
The Sith consider it "weakness" instead, since their whole thing is overpowering their enemies with their capabilities. Knowing how to use a lightsaber is a considerable task for them, and showing how unparaleled they are with it is the key to the fear and respect of the sith everyone has.
I waited a long time for them to bring Teras Kasi into canon, only for it to have a 5 second cameo in Solo.... behind an elevator's closed doors...
He doesn’t use “trakata” at all. He just stabs her
Yea, this video is stupid. Basically he had another light saber hilt under his primary hilt. Dismantled it and then activated it to stab Jehki.
The idea of Trakata was created because enough fans said it was an obvious style that force wielders should use and Star Wars panicked and needed a solution as to why it wasnt used.
Problem is, its not a legitimate fighting style and qould in no way benefit the user. Name a form of combat in which you benefit from temporarily not having a weapon? It just doesnt work like that.
Yeah the very controvertial move of aming above the opponent and choosing to do a kick instead of striking your opponent with your lightsaber while he's off guard. Very used in recent Disney Star Wars movies.
NGL, that triple tap was hella lit
Cal Kestis: Allow me to introduce myself
There is a skit online where anakin uses it to troll obiwan, and then tried it on yoda. Its hilarious
I wouldn’t really say he used trakata because his fighting style wasn’t based around turning it off and on. If you watch realistic demonstrations of it, you can see that the stranger could’ve ended the fight 10x faster
Out of all the many, many issues with the Acolyte, I don't mind this. Using lightsabers with the same mindset as using a sword has never made sense
"What do you mean i can't use it in combat?"
Sith: "I'm not saying you can't use trakata, i'm just saying that using it is kinda gay"
His second saber was just smaller… he didn’t turn it off it was just dagger sized.
Obi-Wan also used a controversial/forbidden technique to cut Anakin's legs and arm in Revenge of the Sith
I think you’re forgetting that literally in Jedi survivor there was a Enemy that did this
Was too busy seeing that force users can be thrown around inconsistently.. and that a Padawan can hold off a sith more effectively than a Jedi master and knights.
This show is a mess and takes away from neat little things like this video is showing.
I can't deny that i like it when the sith fight dirty like that tho
Twist: the hidden Sith Master is Ki Adi Mundi… don‘t tell anyone😂
honestly wanna see more of this style because realistically if it works then why wouldn't people use it
Cal Kestis used it in fallen order. That’s canon. That’s how he disarmed Trilla on Bogano.
Then after Vader fought Luke in Revenge of the Sith, Anikan went to go blow up the Death Star.
I love the part in Revenge of the Sith when Vader uses an unorthodox combat style on his newborn son.🤣
cal kestis briefly uses this style when fighting the second sister too
Sith: "its cowardice!"
Jedi: "its dishonorable!"
People using this tactic: "no prize for second place."
i mean at the same time he was fighting how many jedi at once
Didn't kylo do that in last Jedi? Or is that different in some way?
Kylo is a fallen Jedi so he won't follow the Jedi orders rules. Kylo also isn't a Sith so he isn't held to dogmatic beliefs. A technique is that based on a rule of school. Doing it randomly is a tactic. Kylo would be the most apt exmaple but i hardly remember that film. So yeah wasn't it with the red troopers guards. Rey throws the saber to him and he turns it off and on to kill one of them. That doesn't seem so much like a technique then a spur of a moment tactic adjustment. Plus was the saber ignited when it was thrown to him? God you're gonna make me watch that scene now. Okay I watched it. Kylo doesn't actually use that. Rey turns the lightsaber off and throws it to Kylo who ignites it into the guards face. Then he turns it off but the guards are dead.
Though while I didn't want to watch that scene. I did catch something I never noticed before watching it. Kylo throws one of the guards into a hole and his body parts just spray out. I a good laugh at that shit.
@@jasondiend4248 That fight scene is like those pictures of "The longer you look at it, the worse it gets."
Senya also fought kinda like that in the Swtor Cinematic. Although her Lightsaber was out most of the time and she turned it on only to finish her enemies. That was a bad ass fight. I'm not sure if it was that style, but it looked cool.
0:59 And they go so hard on the Acolyte actor, at least he didn't know star wars
He's not a fan doesn't know his shit tried to say something got it wrong. Well he's not a fan so fucking what. I'm so tired of this people need toknow no no they fucking don't they don't need to know shit. If the story is good it's good if it is bad it's bad. That simple. Andor was made by someone who doesn't even like Star Wars and it was good.
@@jasondiend4248 Well you are right, a good actor can know nothing about the universe he plays in, but if he doesnt know he should have learn to shut up.
@@mrafk5658 perhaps i mean the other actors gave him a weird look, but in all seriousness it seems he did watch star wars, it seems he confused a lucrehulk for the death star
@@jasondiend4248 Him not being a fan and being unfamiliar is fine. The problem was him trying to come off as "deep" and pretending to know far more than he actually did and when someone does that, then they deserved to be called out on it.
Also it's not hard to at the very least look up the synopsis of stuff of wikipedia if you want to do that to at least get the facts of the main plot points.
Eck addresses this in the top comment. You really think Eck doesn’t know?
this technically wasnt the first time it happened in modern star wars with the ahsoka series and one of the inquisitors turning his lightsaber off to dodge turn it back on and swing at ahsoka, i beilieve this was episode 3? it was the first full episode in the forest.
Wait, he used trakata on Jecki? I always thought that those three stabs was him just being quick with the thrusts. Are you saying those three stabs was him turning the shorter blade on and off each time? Or are they talking about the fact he pulled out a second blade mid combat in the first place?
Trakata was shown in canon multiple times already lmfao
I assumed he talked about form VII, which likely wouldn't be taught at the jedi temple much, especially to semi fresh knights.
I wish Sol could use precognition to read when he’d use Trakata. As a martial artist I never understood why the Jedi and Sith were so self limiting with their Force abilities in combat (not including the part where sabotaging another Force user’s stance is easier said than done)
"But it was likely just him trying to get into Saul's head to make him unfocused in battle..." You say that like it's not the whole *point* of Dun Moch. Which it is.
i know its dishonorable but it is the coolest tactic
It appeared to be a short saber and he stabbed her 3 times. Indidnt see him turn it off and on 3 times but maybe i missed that?
Your right. You didn’t miss anything. This is not “Trakata”
@@Hgdhgfdssxvbbnjoo Actually we don't know. It could be either.
@@HgdhgfdssxvbbnjooThis dude spends more time farming clips for YT rather than getting facts straight.
"and sith for it's cowardice" Sith should be sneaky cowards when the chips are down. The idea that sith would eschew something useful and powerful because it's "cowardly" seems totally regarded.
Why have an on/off switch if you don’t plan on using it?
But to be fiar it's highly risky as sabers have a slow on off cycle so instead of being like a bayonate it's more like trowing you magazine at the opnet then shoting it.
If you watch the duel on episode 5 he turns his saber off once to avoid another saber hitting his
I thought that was awesome. It’s one of my favorite lightsaber techniques although I did come up with a hypothetical move in my head that they have never used yet it involves a blaster and turning your lightsaber off before hitting another blade and quick drawing a blaster your opponent is gonna think they’re gonna block a strike, but no, they’re gonna get hit with a bunch of blaster bolts lol
The issue is even the Sith forbidden the technique it’s dishonest and shows no mastery to do.
Dooku used it. He specially made his lightsaber to change lengths with a switch.
He used it against a background Jedi as well
Trakata is used in canon by Cal Kestis in Jedi: Fallen Order
also to note some of the bedlam raiders in Jedi Survivor that were given lightsabers by Dagan also had used the on off technique.