There is a couple of leagues from Quebec that are never talked about that would be worth mentioning as Junior leagues: RSEQ College Div 1 (roughly Jr A), and RSEQ College Div 2 (roughly Jr B). These leagues are an hybride between college and Junior models. The leagues operate as U21 just like Junior hockey and they have a maximum limit of five 20 year old players per team. One need to understand the school system in QC where kids graduate from high school in grade 11. Kids then go to college for a pre-university programs, or a college degree. Anyway, all that to say that the RSEQ College Div 1&2 are for 17, 18, 19, and 20 year old kids who play under a Junior age model league where teams are affiliated with a college. It's an interesting option for Junior players to continue with their education. Kids are still eligible for NCAA scholarship and i believe some have gone on to play NCAA. Definitely some have moved on to USPORT, and RSEQ University League. Also to avoid confuson it would be worth mentioning that in Canada University and College is different. College in Canada is like Junior College in the USA. The RSEQ College Div 1 competes for players with the QJHL. The QJHL level has gone down slighly as a result, since the RSEQ College Div 1 came back to life. However I would still give an overall edgevto the QJHL.
Reeeeeally interested to see what happens three years from now with these stats once we start seeing some effects from the NCAA allowing in CHL players.
On October 4th, a bombshell released, CHL players are now eligible for NCAA scholarships, which was pretty much a move aimed squarely at the BCHL's expansion into Alberta threatening the WHL.
As much as I dislike Hockey Canada and their motives...the decision was based in the USA. We don't have the balls up here to take Hockey Canada to task! I firmly believe that if Russia cannot compete in IIHF events due to politics...then Hockey Canada shouldnt be allowed to compete as they tried to sweep sex assaults under the rug...KNOWINGLY!!
Great video. Very informative. Regarding the stats for commits, at least in the BCHL, most players have been committed to D1 programs BEFORE they join the BCHL. D1 schools commit players then send them to the BCHL to grow and develop before going on to college hockey. A bit different than players being scouted in the BCHL and offered scholarships. Is this the same for NAHL, NCDC, AJ and SJ or is it more common for NCAA programs to find and recruit players from these leagues?
Few years ago NAHL North teams have been playing SJHL in first games of year and and having been beating them rather easily and haven’t seen a score where a they have lost yet. I watched Bismarck Bobcats of NAHL play CanAm game series few years now and won all games and seems like a little of a talent cap. Next year the USHL and CHL being allowed to play in NCAA will basically supply almost all of the players extremely hurting BCHL and NAHL supplying players to NCAA
you got the pacific junior hockey league mixed up with provincial junior hockey league. The pacific junior hockey league is based in british columbia which also got bumped up to junior a teir 2 status at the same time as the kijhl. Its the same calibre as kijhl and is part of the same association (bchc). The provincial junior hockey league is some junior c league in ontario.
Not necessarily, NCAA will still need a variety of pipelines and being one of the best in terms of calibers and advancements to NCAA BCHL should still remain a competitive league.
Do you think the low amount of D3commits in the ki is do to the area it’s in? Most d3 schools are in eastern cananda. There’s probably not a lot of scouting in the ki. I believe the calibre in that league is a noj level.
Braeden curious if you think a factor in the KIJHL being low on college or university commitments might be because the league is young. I see very few 20 year olds in the league and I understand universities like to wait until players graduate out of junior before offering spots.
It would be interesting to see KI and PJ teams square off given the KI expects a full time commitment from their players. Wonder if more ice and development = a better product.
There is 3 PJHL: Pacific Junior A Hockey League (BC), Prairie Junior B Hockey League (SK), Provincial Junior C Hockey League (ON). The Pacific Junior Hockey League is similar in caliber to the KIJHL. Both were promoted to Jr A last year. It will take time for the leagues to elevate their caliber of play to other sanctioned Jr A leagues in Canada. I'd ranked them below the SIJHL with the very top teams being middle of the pack in NOJHL and SIJHL.
Thanks! still learning, so I can't complain - posting for the algorythm. will be interesting if/when the ncaa changes the eligibility rules. would like to see where each league has teams (in the non-named leagues ushl etc). I have to go back and forth to elite and or google the leagues. If you do this every year, it won't be a waste of time making and showing a map. Thanks, still learning. Kids an 09. Kijhl / vijhl were jrB. I feel that they might split at yr end into true jrA/jrB, based on ranks. ? is cchl ohl/qmjhl?
Interesting. Why so focused on NCAA only? Just think most clCanadian kids are looking to CHL not NCAA. Real uni courses make it almost impossible to play and get great grades.
@ahadvising8 agreed! And as of November, CHL players will be allowed to play NCAA as they age out of junior. Going to mean growth of CHL and likely reduction of other leagues like USHL.
The NCAA will always need multiple pipelines, that also doesn’t mean that every single CHL player has the grades to get in NCAA. It will for sure have an impact and might have fewer commitments then currently but other leagues should still remain competitive enough with advancements.
@@ahadvising8 yes this also brings up the point for OJ. There are an insane amount of OHL prospects and OHL drop downs playing in the OJ who weren't looking for a college commitment before, so now after the rule change, there should be a lot more commits coming out of the OJ. Everyone in Canada knows that the OJ is much better than the SJ and MJ and is slightly better than the AJ this year based on the actual level of hockey being played.
There is a couple of leagues from Quebec that are never talked about that would be worth mentioning as Junior leagues: RSEQ College Div 1 (roughly Jr A), and RSEQ College Div 2 (roughly Jr B).
These leagues are an hybride between college and Junior models. The leagues operate as U21 just like Junior hockey and they have a maximum limit of five 20 year old players per team.
One need to understand the school system in QC where kids graduate from high school in grade 11. Kids then go to college for a pre-university programs, or a college degree.
Anyway, all that to say that the RSEQ College Div 1&2 are for 17, 18, 19, and 20 year old kids who play under a Junior age model league where teams are affiliated with a college. It's an interesting option for Junior players to continue with their education. Kids are still eligible for NCAA scholarship and i believe some have gone on to play NCAA. Definitely some have moved on to USPORT, and RSEQ University League.
Also to avoid confuson it would be worth mentioning that in Canada University and College is different. College in Canada is like Junior College in the USA.
The RSEQ College Div 1 competes for players with the QJHL. The QJHL level has gone down slighly as a result, since the RSEQ College Div 1 came back to life. However I would still give an overall edgevto the QJHL.
If you mean the CEGEP league, you are very correct!! Lots of talent in that league!
I appreciate the heads up and work you guys put into factual data.
Thank you, glad it helps. 👍🏼
Reeeeeally interested to see what happens three years from now with these stats once we start seeing some effects from the NCAA allowing in CHL players.
We have a guy playing in the nahl from the SI last year and he's point a game so far plus one guy in the OHL
On October 4th, a bombshell released, CHL players are now eligible for NCAA scholarships, which was pretty much a move aimed squarely at the BCHL's expansion into Alberta threatening the WHL.
Since separation its been their goal to kill the bchl
As much as I dislike Hockey Canada and their motives...the decision was based in the USA. We don't have the balls up here to take Hockey Canada to task! I firmly believe that if Russia cannot compete in IIHF events due to politics...then Hockey Canada shouldnt be allowed to compete as they tried to sweep sex assaults under the rug...KNOWINGLY!!
God bless you, Braeden. Hope that you are doing better!
Before SAC OJHL was perfect place to go now everyone goes to SAC and Gojhl
Great video. Very informative.
Regarding the stats for commits, at least in the BCHL, most players have been committed to D1 programs BEFORE they join the BCHL. D1 schools commit players then send them to the BCHL to grow and develop before going on to college hockey. A bit different than players being scouted in the BCHL and offered scholarships. Is this the same for NAHL, NCDC, AJ and SJ or is it more common for NCAA programs to find and recruit players from these leagues?
They tend to recruit from these leagues.
Did I hear that the VI ended up disbanding from Hockey Canada as well and now markets themselves as a feeder for BCHL?
The VI is now an unsanctioned Jr B league affiliated with the BCHL
Correct
Thanks this help me in my hockey career but I’m in u11
Happy it helped you. This list might change again by the time you get there.
Hey my favourite team is Pictou County and thanks
In the mhl
@@dwaynecameron4729nah man Truro Bearcats for life!!
Few years ago NAHL North teams have been playing SJHL in first games of year and and having been beating them rather easily and haven’t seen a score where a they have lost yet. I watched Bismarck Bobcats of NAHL play CanAm game series few years now and won all games and seems like a little of a talent cap. Next year the USHL and CHL being allowed to play in NCAA will basically supply almost all of the players extremely hurting BCHL and NAHL supplying players to NCAA
you got the pacific junior hockey league mixed up with provincial junior hockey league. The pacific junior hockey league is based in british columbia which also got bumped up to junior a teir 2 status at the same time as the kijhl. Its the same calibre as kijhl and is part of the same association (bchc). The provincial junior hockey league is some junior c league in ontario.
We realize we got them mixed up, it’s an honest mistake and we will be better next time! Thanks
But now the BCHL could take a huge downturn with the CHL players being NCAA ELIGIBLE NOW. Could become a ghost town!!!
Not necessarily, NCAA will still need a variety of pipelines and being one of the best in terms of calibers and advancements to NCAA BCHL should still remain a competitive league.
Maybe the bchl will be ok , but the SJ , MJ and ajhl will be closer to JrB
AJ should still stay afloat and have a strong D3 advancement rate.
@@ahadvising8lately I’ve been seeing quite a few junior a players from the bchl moving to the CHL
Do you think the low amount of D3commits in the ki is do to the area it’s in? Most d3 schools are in eastern cananda. There’s probably not a lot of scouting in the ki. I believe the calibre in that league is a noj level.
Potentially.
Braeden curious if you think a factor in the KIJHL being low on college or university commitments might be because the league is young. I see very few 20 year olds in the league and I understand universities like to wait until players graduate out of junior before offering spots.
Most College’s or Universities will typically commit players their second last year in Junior.
That could be a reason for sure.
Yes
PJHL(Pacific Junior Hockey League)is in BC not Ontario. It is roughly the same calibre as the KIJHL.
There’s one in Ontario. We were referring to that one. We left out the BC PJHL in this vid, will include next year
It would be interesting to see KI and PJ teams square off given the KI expects a full time commitment from their players. Wonder if more ice and development = a better product.
There is 3 PJHL: Pacific Junior A Hockey League (BC), Prairie Junior B Hockey League (SK), Provincial Junior C Hockey League (ON).
The Pacific Junior Hockey League is similar in caliber to the KIJHL. Both were promoted to Jr A last year. It will take time for the leagues to elevate their caliber of play to other sanctioned Jr A leagues in Canada. I'd ranked them below the SIJHL with the very top teams being middle of the pack in NOJHL and SIJHL.
#1 is now #4
So, you are not counting the pjhl kijhl and vijhl in bc?
I think they are near the end, they have a much lower NCAA advancement rate which is why they are ranked lower.
Thanks! still learning, so I can't complain - posting for the algorythm.
will be interesting if/when the ncaa changes the eligibility rules.
would like to see where each league has teams (in the non-named leagues ushl etc).
I have to go back and forth to elite and or google the leagues. If you do this every year, it won't be a waste of time making and showing a map.
Thanks, still learning. Kids an 09.
Kijhl / vijhl were jrB. I feel that they might split at yr end into true jrA/jrB, based on ranks. ?
is cchl ohl/qmjhl?
Glad it helped.
Only time will tell. The CCHL is a tier 2 Jr.A hockey league and OHL/ QMJHL are Major-Junior hockey (Tier 1).
Interesting. Why so focused on NCAA only? Just think most clCanadian kids are looking to CHL not NCAA.
Real uni courses make it almost impossible to play and get great grades.
Not necessarily, a lot of people value schooling and want to pursue NCAA opportunities.
@ahadvising8 agreed! And as of November, CHL players will be allowed to play NCAA as they age out of junior.
Going to mean growth of CHL and likely reduction of other leagues like USHL.
The NCAA will always need multiple pipelines, that also doesn’t mean that every single CHL player has the grades to get in NCAA. It will for sure have an impact and might have fewer commitments then currently but other leagues should still remain competitive enough with advancements.
@@ahadvising8 yes this also brings up the point for OJ. There are an insane amount of OHL prospects and OHL drop downs playing in the OJ who weren't looking for a college commitment before, so now after the rule change, there should be a lot more commits coming out of the OJ. Everyone in Canada knows that the OJ is much better than the SJ and MJ and is slightly better than the AJ this year based on the actual level of hockey being played.