A sbr 556 with a suppressor is still loud and not hearing safe lol. That's coming from a combat medic, who now on the civilian side, doing hearing test while typing this.
@Smitty.WerbenJagerManJensen. true but still doesn't mean anything when it comes to protecting you n your family's hearing. Just go 300 blkout which is meant for sbr length.
I feel like all of this "no suppressor on a home gun" stems from Warrior Poet Society's video talking about not having a can because he wants his neighbors to know if he's shooting.
This has always puzzled me. I'm not American but I've shot a "sbr" inside ones without hearing protection and a pistol once or twice. Its of the charts compared to outside. It's what I would imagine a flashbang to be. The first thing I would always have would be hearing protection if not a silencer
I had a 7.5” 556 shot at my face from about 6 feet away in a bedroom idk if it was the adrenaline or what but I could hear just fine after I realized I was still alive lol given I would definitely go ahead and agree I’d much prefer a suppressor for HD
100% adrenaline saved your hearing and focused your other senses. It occurs for some folks...but those beside you or in the next rom, don't have the adrenaline pumping as much.
If I absolutely had to shoot my 8" 5.56 PDW in doors unsuppressed, I'd throw on a blast diffuser like the QD Blast Shield from Griffin Armament. It'll still be loud as heck, but it'll send most of the concussive force out and away from me.
I’m a big believer in a rifle suppressor for home defense, but a handgun I think should be left unsuppressed. Handguns that are suppressed can be very finicky. Not something I’d be wanting to bet my life on.
@@tesla82111 If you really think a 2A loving Californian voted for gun restrictions in his own state, then you are definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed.
@@tesla82111 We have a super majority that votes one way here. I cannot do anything about what happens at a state level. My vote does make a difference in the city I live in though and I am active in my community.
The point he makes is 100% true. Most of the concussion is gonna come from the brake or flash hider directed down range so if there are more than one unfortunates down there the blast will catch them off guard and yea while the shots will be non hearing safe both with and with out the can you would want everyone to know in and around your house that a shot was fired so the police can come. That just makes sense to me. My wife might be pissed I rang her ears for about 5 min but maybe not gonna be so mad that I defended my family.
John lovell's advice is marginal at best. This is the same dude who said he keeps a throwaway handgun in his unlocked center console of his truck for easy access and said "oh well it is cheap" if it gets stolen. Hes a schmuck.
We need to make it illegal for prosecutors to use the style of weapon and accessories against you, I read a study once that said you were far more likely to be convicted in a self defense scenario for using something like an AR over a shotgun
Damn how did all those people even survive before silencers were common?!?! If someone breaks into my house I doubt anyone is upset from some ringy ears.
@@SALTYDEVILWhile that is true at face value, studies show even mild hearing loss doubles dementia risk. Moderate hearing loss= 3x. Severe hearing loss= 5x.
Don’t forget about auditory exclusion! I had to shoot my Mossberg Shockwave inside my home in a domestic violence situation and my adrenaline was pumping so bad I never heard the shots and I never had ringing in my ears! It was so weird!
@@901AiAudio My bad dude. It's rather unfortunate that you had to go through such a thing. I hope life is treating you better these days. Happy trails Kemosabe.
I feel like the 300 blk subsonic ammo is neutered out of a 1/7 twist barrel which is typical for most custom builds. Sig makes a 1/5 twist barrel for one of their 300 blackouts and the 1/5 twist is basically for subs only. Supers might tear up the barrel apparently. The twist on a 1/5 barrel opens up the subsonic ammo on impact for better expansion than a 1/7 or 1/8 twist barrel does.
270 out of a 6 by 4 shooting house couldn’t prop my barrel out of the window so the end was inside only 1 window open. I say that’s why my hearing is a little wonky to this day
I feel you there. I did the same when I was about 12-14 I don’t remember exactly. That was the day I learned why flashbangs are so effective and why it’s so important to put the barrel past the window. Granted, the hell yea papaw lifestyle I lived from that time until about 21 didn’t help my ears either.
What are the ramifications of shooting someone with a nfa registered item in the event you get screwed by the government and convited of something in a home defense situation?
Lots of people here aren't getting the point, that the noise would cause greater confusion in a tense situation and could lead to unintentional friendly fire because the other family member can't hear where you are or can't identify you by voice, so they may shoot out of surprise or uncertainty (breaking the fundamentals of gun safety, always be sure of your target). That said, I think it's an unlikely situation on top of an unlikely situation. If we're both armed, then we're clearing the house together and staying in sight to cover each other. The mistake is splitting up, like in most horror movies.
@@railfanningpoints2.045 It's a legit term, doesn't mean I think I'm professional or cool about it. Given that one major demographic of gun owners is veterans though, it's very risky (in terms of likely wrong) that you jumped to the conclusion you did.
My point is in a home invasion situation you should all do one of: A) Stick together, staying in sight of each other no matter what B) Anyone unarmed stays in one spot and hides, no matter what, in a place the armed person knows they are C) Both, such as kids staying in their rooms and armed adults sticking together. D) Not break the fundamental rule of gun safety, "always know what your target is"
@@Franimus I’m looking at it more like a sneaky break in. You get woken up by a slight noise. Try to wake the wife up but she won’t. Realize you can’t sit around and wait so you grab a gun and investigate. You spot someone who also has a gun and you shoot. The blast from your gun startles your wife… who quickly grabs another gun. Disoriented, half asleep, and ears ringing from a muzzle blast, she sees you first and then just pulls the trigger out of panic and confusion
Illegal to even possess in NJ. You can't even own one legally in another state, and bring it here if you move in to NJ N.J. Stat. Ann. § 2C:39-3(c) prohibits the possession of suppressors.
Another consideration is that the police will be rolling to your home after a shooting. You want yourself and your family to follow the officers instructions when they get there. They can't do that if they are temporarily or permanently deaf.
If you have the means, ALWAYS suppress home defense weapon(s). Why? Because guns are waaay loud in a house. And if you have to shoot at night, the muzzle flash WILL blind you. You need to be able to hear AND see what is coming your way. While you MIGHT experience auditory exclusion, others in the house will not. If you need to give them instructions, they won't hear them.
If you protect your family in a home invasion, it’s not likely the lady will be mad because it was loud as fuck. It is jarring, but it’s healable and in most circumstances an isolated incident. Stop pushing false narratives
My tinnitus is so bad already that it keeps me awake at night. I'm not filling out any forms paying ungodly prices and giving $200 in "taxes" away to be on a list.
My ear is still fucked from a gear failure that caused my 9 to discharge indoors well over a month ago. This is why we preach gun safety, it did no damage to me (besides my ears), my family, my pets, anything of excessive value, or the building. For anyone wondering my finger was far away from the trigger and it was pointed in a safe direction, a cheap temporary holster failed and put pressure on the trigger causing a discharge.
4 guys broke into my house (pretty small home). Shot unsupressed af. Auditory exclusion is fr. Look it up big dawg. And always be as loud as you can be. You want to sound like hell. Not the whispers of heaven.
I dropped my tax return on a home defense upgrade. CMMG Banshee, 9mm, binary, suppressed, xtendo "clip". 147g subsonic JHP makes it pretty quiet. Only way it could really be more quiet is if it were a bolt action. You can hear the action over the shot.
Home defense scenarios don't usually include time to put ear protection on, so if you can use a can, you should. Now dead is dead whether you hear can hear em hit the ground or not.
I guess any combat veterans before hearing protection was common just got to do one mission then cuz after they shot their guns they became instantly deaf. Crazy
I shot a .22lr into my bedroom mirror acting like a gangster one time when my parents were out of town. I was about 22 years old, I’m 38 now. Even that caused my ears to ring pretty bad. I took my mirror off and patched the hole and painted it before my parents got home. I concocted a story about how I was throwing a football up in the air and catching it but it got caught in the ceiling fan and got slung into the mirror, breaking the mirror. I told them the actual truth about 5 years later and we had a laugh about it.
You never lied about that right there I've fired just 6 to 7 rounds out of a m4 with a 12 in barrel outside and my ears rang for two days after couldn't hear as well for about an hour even fired a 380 from sitting inside of my truck at a target with me holding the 380 out the window of my truck my whole arm was out of the widow with driver window and passenger window both down and it Rick my ears it disoriented me just a little
What about horrific penalties being charged in a legitimate self-defense incident, as a crime using an NFA item? Most people will plea bargain for 15 years in prison to avoid additional NFA penalties.
Look it up. Look at plea bargains for alleged faulty self-defense, cases that never made it to a jury, and ones that did when NFA item involved. It's not pretty.
facts. shooting unsuppressed indoors is loud. everytime you shoot it rattles your brain. consequently affecting reaction time, ability to hear people, and you lose situational awareness, and than the flash can blind you. not to mention wrong day might bring on a massive headache. id rather be performing the best I possibly can when my life depends on it.
For real this dude is making stuff up and presenting it as truth. QCB with unsuppressed guns have been a thing for a long long time. Sure it will cause hearing loss, no you will not go instantly death.
Well, I'll go to prison if I run a suppressor on my home defense weapon because they are banned in my state, so yeah. Guess I'll have to take that chance.
I didn't realize how important it is to consider the feelings and comfort of roommates when it comes to an active threat breaking into my house. Surely you must spend an excess amount you dont have on a specially registered item you pay a $200 tax on, its very important that you think about respecting who you live with as you save their life from a deadly threat. It's too much effort using a pistol caliber firearm 7 feet away in your home
Chances are that a gun owner has probably fired the weapon indoors. Indoor ranges are quite common in urban areas. If you own a gun for home defense and don't fire it fairly regularly then you probably won't hit what you are shooting at.
Glad someone else is of the same mind that yeah it should pretty much be standard if you can to suppress your home defense gun. See you this weekend at guncon!
It's not on the noise but an AR in a hall way is concussive AF, that shit can be debilitating, personally think the consolation is moreso overlooked then the noise itself
you don't have home inspections for a can weirdo. lists probably but.. wtf have you ever filled out a 4473.. your already on the lists you speak of @@TheBeefSlayer
Same. But I do worry about sitting in court listening to some prosecutor deem my HD choices as a danger to society or how I must’ve expected & planned ahead (pre-meditation) to use it. What a sad state of affairs to worry about being prosecuted by a jury of my “peers”, who’s only knowledge of AR pistols & suppressor comes in the form of hollywood movies, for simply defending myself.
Auditory exclusion. This is an odd thing, but it's factully accurate. Have you ever wondered why your ears don't ring or more accurately why you don't notice that you ears are affected when hunting, but would at the range without hearing protection. That's why. Sitting off a round doesn't guarantee everyone's ears will be ringing, but it also doesn't guarantee they won't. The additional device will help with this. However, this doesn't guarantee the bad guy won't cookoff a round. The better bet would be to have a good set of electronic earmuffs with a mic to talk to you wife with.
So you're not going to yell that it's you and not the intruder if you know your wife has a sidearm? Sounds like you need to have a plan in place so that doesn't happen.
Shot a coyote out my bedroom window one morning, my wife didn't talk to me for a week , man that was a good week 😂
😂😂😂
Nah, she was still talking. . You just didn't hear anything but rrrrriiiiiinnnngggggg 😆
Nah, she talked that whole week but all you heard that week was. .RRRRRRIIIIIIIIINNNNNNGGGGGG!!! 😂
😂🤣
😂😂😂
I didn't choose to not suppress my home defense weapon I just can't afford that s***😂
It's absurd other countries have restrictions on guns and not supressors- while the US has restrictions on a safety item.
I scored a silencer co for 450 🎉 so....800 total! 😂
I have a hard time believing you can’t find $1k to save in your budget over the course of a year. Choices.
@@thejoatmooYou said it yourself, choices. Now tell me you don't live in your parents basement😂
@@ld8151 can't afford $500?
A sbr 556 with a suppressor is still loud and not hearing safe lol. That's coming from a combat medic, who now on the civilian side, doing hearing test while typing this.
It’s not hearing safe, but it’s a hell of a lot quieter than unsuppressed
I tested 9 mm in a small space. @ 120 decibel I can still hear after 1 shot. After a 30 round mag dump, probably not.
@Smitty.WerbenJagerManJensen. true but still doesn't mean anything when it comes to protecting you n your family's hearing. Just go 300 blkout which is meant for sbr length.
Crashing a car and crashing a motorcycle are both unsafe but I'd much rather crash my car.
@@_iso_553 or you could just use a suppressed 300 blkout or sub .45 and don't have to worry about it.
I feel like all of this "no suppressor on a home gun" stems from Warrior Poet Society's video talking about not having a can because he wants his neighbors to know if he's shooting.
This has always puzzled me. I'm not American but I've shot a "sbr" inside ones without hearing protection and a pistol once or twice. Its of the charts compared to outside. It's what I would imagine a flashbang to be. The first thing I would always have would be hearing protection if not a silencer
I have electric ear protection near my .357 magnum 🤣
And no wife... Correct?
@@RichardCranium321Just give the wife hearing protection too.
@@thisagame5847 In a life or death situation every single second counts.
@@alariciii4963 Have it out on the bedside.
@@RichardCranium321 Lucky guy
A suppressor can literally save you and your loved ones hearing.
NY says Fack your hearing and double for anyone near you. Can’t have them 😢
"jUsT mOvE bRO" -every downie that lives with thier mommy and daddy in a free state
Same with California. Damn tyrants
Same for MA 😢
Same here in Taxachusetts. The only people that have suppressors in this state are police and criminals.
Well a band with 3 guitars drums and bass in a cinder block building killed my ears years ago lol..I sleep with 2 fans on and still hear middle C
My wife and I have been to so many Slayer and PANTERA concerts that we start to headbang when we hear shots.
I had a 7.5” 556 shot at my face from about 6 feet away in a bedroom idk if it was the adrenaline or what but I could hear just fine after I realized I was still alive lol given I would definitely go ahead and agree I’d much prefer a suppressor for HD
The brain will suppress the sound as a coping mechanism, but the physical damage is done.
100% adrenaline saved your hearing and focused your other senses. It occurs for some folks...but those beside you or in the next rom, don't have the adrenaline pumping as much.
If I absolutely had to shoot my 8" 5.56 PDW in doors unsuppressed, I'd throw on a blast diffuser like the QD Blast Shield from Griffin Armament. It'll still be loud as heck, but it'll send most of the concussive force out and away from me.
What?!?
(Late 90s Early 2000s vet checking in)
Haha. No joke. Even an unsuppressed 22 in a house is friggen super loud
Beg your pardon, but if it's a home defense situation: I'm not sweating anyone's hearing over the alternative. Priorities, man!
Why would you insist in making your family pay for a home intruders mistake?
I’m a big believer in a rifle suppressor for home defense, but a handgun I think should be left unsuppressed. Handguns that are suppressed can be very finicky. Not something I’d be wanting to bet my life on.
Maybe, random thought, buy a better handgun?
My living situation is California 🥺
Ew. Vote better.
Move to America.
@@tesla82111 If you really think a 2A loving Californian voted for gun restrictions in his own state, then you are definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed.
@@tesla82111 We have a super majority that votes one way here. I cannot do anything about what happens at a state level. My vote does make a difference in the city I live in though and I am active in my community.
@@deebee4575 😂
But but but John Lovell from warrior poet said we shouldn’t use suppressors for home defense 😅😑
When he said that I cringed. His 'logic' don't make dollars there.
The point he makes is 100% true. Most of the concussion is gonna come from the brake or flash hider directed down range so if there are more than one unfortunates down there the blast will catch them off guard and yea while the shots will be non hearing safe both with and with out the can you would want everyone to know in and around your house that a shot was fired so the police can come. That just makes sense to me. My wife might be pissed I rang her ears for about 5 min but maybe not gonna be so mad that I defended my family.
I think he may have walked that one back not too long ago actually.
John lovell's advice is marginal at best. This is the same dude who said he keeps a throwaway handgun in his unlocked center console of his truck for easy access and said "oh well it is cheap" if it gets stolen. Hes a schmuck.
@grayantihero6059 hahaha yeah between you and John, he's the schmuck? Hahaha
We need to make it illegal for prosecutors to use the style of weapon and accessories against you, I read a study once that said you were far more likely to be convicted in a self defense scenario for using something like an AR over a shotgun
Damn how did all those people even survive before silencers were common?!?! If someone breaks into my house I doubt anyone is upset from some ringy ears.
If you shoot a rifle indoors everyone affected is guaranteed permanent severe hearing damage.
@@deebee4575 Better than dead, Change my mind
@@SALTYDEVILWhile that is true at face value, studies show even mild hearing loss doubles dementia risk.
Moderate hearing loss= 3x.
Severe hearing loss= 5x.
@@daftpanda6533dementia in your 60's Vs being dead in whatever age you are now
I'll take hearing voices later
@@148crusaderYou could also prepare to avoid great bodily harm.
I couldn’t hear what you’re talking about
Definitely NOT a “shoulda put a ring on it” scenario..🤣
Don’t forget about auditory exclusion! I had to shoot my Mossberg Shockwave inside my home in a domestic violence situation and my adrenaline was pumping so bad I never heard the shots and I never had ringing in my ears! It was so weird!
I bet she stopped talking back after that 😂
@@darksu6947 it was actually my extremely violent crackhead father who was trying to kill my mother.
I had this happen while hunting one time it was weird!
@@901AiAudio My bad dude. It's rather unfortunate that you had to go through such a thing. I hope life is treating you better these days. Happy trails Kemosabe.
@@darksu6947 Thanks man!
You POORS dont have a can on every gun?
no i have two dads :(
Lol exactly
I have one can for every like 10. People that afford one for every gun have few guns or lots and lots of money.
Cans are for the rich to keep the poor poorer😂
The government in my state says they’re for bad people😢
Big truth... I'd only run a silenced gun for hd
I guess people haven't heard of 300 Blackout expanding subsonic HD rounds.
Weak ass ballistics.
300 BO is basically a 45 acp. I will never understand why more people refuse to accept this.
@@jasondesselles9168
Except more aerodynamic with better range. And yes, subsonic 300 is basically the same as. 45.
@@jasondesselles9168 more weight, longer rifle, bigger round but subsonic. I feel like it should have just been 9mm suppressed at that point.
I feel like the 300 blk subsonic ammo is neutered out of a 1/7 twist barrel which is typical for most custom builds. Sig makes a 1/5 twist barrel for one of their 300 blackouts and the 1/5 twist is basically for subs only. Supers might tear up the barrel apparently. The twist on a 1/5 barrel opens up the subsonic ammo on impact for better expansion than a 1/7 or 1/8 twist barrel does.
270 out of a 6 by 4 shooting house couldn’t prop my barrel out of the window so the end was inside only 1 window open. I say that’s why my hearing is a little wonky to this day
My brother has one and man that caliber is super loud.
I feel you there. I did the same when I was about 12-14 I don’t remember exactly. That was the day I learned why flashbangs are so effective and why it’s so important to put the barrel past the window. Granted, the hell yea papaw lifestyle I lived from that time until about 21 didn’t help my ears either.
Thank god this wasn't what I thought it was going to be
What are the ramifications of shooting someone with a nfa registered item in the event you get screwed by the government and convited of something in a home defense situation?
The same as anything else
@@VSO_Gun_Channel I thought I saw somewhere someone made a video about it being a worse charge.
.. the jury is gonna feel a certain way about you using a suppressor, let alone any AR@@user-iq9uu9mh7k
@@user-iq9uu9mh7k I've never heard thay... why in the hell would it?
@@dtdlilcoold I don't remember who it was but a "guntuber" talked about it.
Lots of people here aren't getting the point, that the noise would cause greater confusion in a tense situation and could lead to unintentional friendly fire because the other family member can't hear where you are or can't identify you by voice, so they may shoot out of surprise or uncertainty (breaking the fundamentals of gun safety, always be sure of your target).
That said, I think it's an unlikely situation on top of an unlikely situation. If we're both armed, then we're clearing the house together and staying in sight to cover each other. The mistake is splitting up, like in most horror movies.
"Clearing the house" ok meal team 6 lol
@@railfanningpoints2.045 It's a legit term, doesn't mean I think I'm professional or cool about it. Given that one major demographic of gun owners is veterans though, it's very risky (in terms of likely wrong) that you jumped to the conclusion you did.
My point is in a home invasion situation you should all do one of:
A) Stick together, staying in sight of each other no matter what
B) Anyone unarmed stays in one spot and hides, no matter what, in a place the armed person knows they are
C) Both, such as kids staying in their rooms and armed adults sticking together.
D) Not break the fundamental rule of gun safety, "always know what your target is"
@@Franimus I’m looking at it more like a sneaky break in. You get woken up by a slight noise. Try to wake the wife up but she won’t. Realize you can’t sit around and wait so you grab a gun and investigate. You spot someone who also has a gun and you shoot. The blast from your gun startles your wife… who quickly grabs another gun. Disoriented, half asleep, and ears ringing from a muzzle blast, she sees you first and then just pulls the trigger out of panic and confusion
Some of us live in states that won't allow us to suppress our weapons.
We don't refuse or choose not to suppress our home defense weapon. We can't.
I mean, we totally can. It'll just mean a felony charge the instant we have to use it.
Illegal to even possess in NJ. You can't even own one legally in another state, and bring it here if you move in to NJ
N.J. Stat. Ann. § 2C:39-3(c) prohibits the possession of suppressors.
If you have a PCC and an oil filter you have a hearing safe PCC.
Just make sure it isnt around when the evidence gets taken.
Another consideration is that the police will be rolling to your home after a shooting. You want yourself and your family to follow the officers instructions when they get there. They can't do that if they are temporarily or permanently deaf.
If you have the means, ALWAYS suppress home defense weapon(s). Why? Because guns are waaay loud in a house. And if you have to shoot at night, the muzzle flash WILL blind you. You need to be able to hear AND see what is coming your way. While you MIGHT experience auditory exclusion, others in the house will not. If you need to give them instructions, they won't hear them.
I shot my 10.5 outside with no HP and my ears rang for a day! I can't imagine indoors!
Suppressors are safety equipment like mufflers and should be included with every purchase like they require on automobiles.
but if you cook off a .300blk subsonic suppressed she'll never know
Unsuppressed SBRs/pistols fired indoors are like flashbangs... brutal. Especially like a x39, holy guacamole.
I've only had to shoot once in my house, And from then on there's been some changes. A suppressor is a must.
I was about to be like "listen here sir!" But then I listened. I dont wanna be more deaf after a bad bad night if it happens
If you stop a home intruder I doubt your other occupants are going to be mad that you saving their lives was loud...
You'd be surprised how pissy people get over the dumbest shit.
If you protect your family in a home invasion, it’s not likely the lady will be mad because it was loud as fuck.
It is jarring, but it’s healable and in most circumstances an isolated incident. Stop pushing false narratives
@@aidanlamborne hearing damage is permanent, suppressing your home defense gun should definitely be considered if you live in a free state
Suck it
I dont know how many women you've dealt with but even if what you do it right, you somehow could have done it better and its all your fault now.
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz you’ve got the wrong ones behind you then.
My tinnitus is so bad already that it keeps me awake at night. I'm not filling out any forms paying ungodly prices and giving $200 in "taxes" away to be on a list.
Everybody knows that silencers are for your in-home library only 🤫
I didn’t make the decision to not suppress, my HDG. My wallet did.
My ear is still fucked from a gear failure that caused my 9 to discharge indoors well over a month ago. This is why we preach gun safety, it did no damage to me (besides my ears), my family, my pets, anything of excessive value, or the building. For anyone wondering my finger was far away from the trigger and it was pointed in a safe direction, a cheap temporary holster failed and put pressure on the trigger causing a discharge.
4 guys broke into my house (pretty small home). Shot unsupressed af. Auditory exclusion is fr. Look it up big dawg. And always be as loud as you can be. You want to sound like hell. Not the whispers of heaven.
Auditory exclusion is a very real thing. Once adrenaline starts flowing your sense of hearing is not as delicate.
Cool but that doesn't always happen and sometimes people get deafened.
The only combustion driven system the government doesn't want you to put a muffler on
I'm sure after dispatching an intruder, any of that will be discussed.
I dropped my tax return on a home defense upgrade. CMMG Banshee, 9mm, binary, suppressed, xtendo "clip". 147g subsonic JHP makes it pretty quiet. Only way it could really be more quiet is if it were a bolt action. You can hear the action over the shot.
An unsuppressed 5.56 indoors would be absolutely disorienting.
Exactly!!! And this is why suppressors shouldn’t be a NFA item!!
Guns are deafening even when outside. Indoors is about 20x worse
lmao i genuinely thought this was satire for a moment, it’s like you were edging i was wondering when you were gonna flip the script…then you didn’t 😂
New York: am I an illusion to you?
Home defense scenarios don't usually include time to put ear protection on, so if you can use a can, you should. Now dead is dead whether you hear can hear em hit the ground or not.
I guess any combat veterans before hearing protection was common just got to do one mission then cuz after they shot their guns they became instantly deaf. Crazy
I shot a .22lr into my bedroom mirror acting like a gangster one time when my parents were out of town. I was about 22 years old, I’m 38 now. Even that caused my ears to ring pretty bad.
I took my mirror off and patched the hole and painted it before my parents got home. I concocted a story about how I was throwing a football up in the air and catching it but it got caught in the ceiling fan and got slung into the mirror, breaking the mirror. I told them the actual truth about 5 years later and we had a laugh about it.
Bro how quiet do you think a supressed weapon inside a house would be?
in my case, it wouldn’t be a slug. It would be a .40S&W hollow point 😂
You never lied about that right there I've fired just 6 to 7 rounds out of a m4 with a 12 in barrel outside and my ears rang for two days after couldn't hear as well for about an hour even fired a 380 from sitting inside of my truck at a target with me holding the 380 out the window of my truck my whole arm was out of the widow with driver window and passenger window both down and it Rick my ears it disoriented me just a little
What about horrific penalties being charged in a legitimate self-defense incident, as a crime using an NFA item? Most people will plea bargain for 15 years in prison to avoid additional NFA penalties.
Look it up. Look at plea bargains for alleged faulty self-defense, cases that never made it to a jury, and ones that did when NFA item involved. It's not pretty.
It's called a safety device. So that you don't cause permanent damage when you need it
Nailed it my nizzle.
I've had to drop rounds inside a building before.....it ain't purdy.
Spend an additional $1000 on a gun part you arbitrarily need says the guy with a large amount of disposable income and free time.
You can get a solid rifle suppressor for about 5 to 6 broke ass.
facts. shooting unsuppressed indoors is loud. everytime you shoot it rattles your brain. consequently affecting reaction time, ability to hear people, and you lose situational awareness, and than the flash can blind you. not to mention wrong day might bring on a massive headache. id rather be performing the best I possibly can when my life depends on it.
Yes sirrr. I don't have a can yet but you best believe it'll be on my bedside.
Nah dude.. i shot a 5.56 in a bedroom once and it really wasn’t that bad. Definitely did not make me deaf.
How long was the barrel?
@@ralphsawyer9535 16"
@@onlyfacts4me A 10" barrel will make you think your ears are bleeding.
@@ralphsawyer9535 i could see that.
For real this dude is making stuff up and presenting it as truth. QCB with unsuppressed guns have been a thing for a long long time. Sure it will cause hearing loss, no you will not go instantly death.
Well, I'll go to prison if I run a suppressor on my home defense weapon because they are banned in my state, so yeah. Guess I'll have to take that chance.
Truth! Stay battle effective always, being deaf is a bad situation
Loud bang will scare the shit outta your opponents as well if theres multiple lol
Not just that. For me I have little ones at home and I am concerned about potential hearing loss.
I didn't realize how important it is to consider the feelings and comfort of roommates when it comes to an active threat breaking into my house. Surely you must spend an excess amount you dont have on a specially registered item you pay a $200 tax on, its very important that you think about respecting who you live with as you save their life from a deadly threat. It's too much effort using a pistol caliber firearm 7 feet away in your home
Look, I have yet to see a suppressor for a 14lb cannon.
Ill just buy a couple dozen headphones and leave them everywhere in the house for the same price
I am not paying a tax to use a right
Yeah, the kicker is the tax goes directly to the orginization trying to restrict 2a rights.
Yes! Same reason I don't like ported barrels on carry pistols. The sound is atrocious in a small space.
Chances are that a gun owner has probably fired the weapon indoors. Indoor ranges are quite common in urban areas. If you own a gun for home defense and don't fire it fairly regularly then you probably won't hit what you are shooting at.
in a home defense situation I don't think anyone will care about loss of hearing if they are alive....
I don't let daddy gov't know I have accessories. No stamp for me
I had an AD last year with a fmj 300aac, it wasn't that bad at all. Absolutely no ear ringing... I was very surprised
Yeah that shit loud af haha
Glad someone else is of the same mind that yeah it should pretty much be standard if you can to suppress your home defense gun. See you this weekend at guncon!
My 50 bmg doesnt give a sh*t about anyone's hearing
Some people can’t afford a suppressor I’m retired and on a limited income
It's not on the noise but an AR in a hall way is concussive AF, that shit can be debilitating, personally think the consolation is moreso overlooked then the noise itself
I live alone AND run a suppressor on my HD gun. I don't see any legit reason not to go suppressed.
Money is a good reason. Being on the lists is another. Along with agreeing to produce your serialized item for the rest of your life on command.
you don't have home inspections for a can weirdo. lists probably but.. wtf have you ever filled out a 4473.. your already on the lists you speak of
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@@TheBeefSlayerbest argument is a ridiculous tax
Same. But I do worry about sitting in court listening to some prosecutor deem my HD choices as a danger to society or how I must’ve expected & planned ahead (pre-meditation) to use it. What a sad state of affairs to worry about being prosecuted by a jury of my “peers”, who’s only knowledge of AR pistols & suppressor comes in the form of hollywood movies, for simply defending myself.
the only reason not to use a supressor is because its too expensive and you dont have one if you have it use it if you dont then dont use it
Auditory exclusion. This is an odd thing, but it's factully accurate. Have you ever wondered why your ears don't ring or more accurately why you don't notice that you ears are affected when hunting, but would at the range without hearing protection. That's why. Sitting off a round doesn't guarantee everyone's ears will be ringing, but it also doesn't guarantee they won't. The additional device will help with this. However, this doesn't guarantee the bad guy won't cookoff a round. The better bet would be to have a good set of electronic earmuffs with a mic to talk to you wife with.
What handguard was that on the right? I need it 👍
Bro the paperwork to file to get one is a pain in the 🍑 and I haven’t seen any sell for under $1100
So you're not going to yell that it's you and not the intruder if you know your wife has a sidearm? Sounds like you need to have a plan in place so that doesn't happen.
If you're lighting off rounds (even a ND) outside rooms armed loved ones occupy you don't need to go prancing off to said rooms immediately.
As someone who’s shot a .45 in my truck you’ll be ok
Lovelle is a character. Nota valid source of information.
Dang this guy right I’ve never thought about that!
I have a suppressor on my 9 mm handgun because my dog is already deaf in one ear
We both have peltors on our night stand. I haven't seen too many home invaders wearing ear pro.
Why would that matter if the intruder also isn’t suppressed
I prefer not to give up my fourth amendment rights to the atf
All those people with the 7.62 arp's ....... 😂
If you think that will stop me from shooting a 50AE indoors you totally right (I may be deaf now)
Points were made and I got a good laugh outta this