Draft Day (2014) - Trading With the Jaguars Scene (7/10) | Movieclips
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Sonny Weaver Jr. (Kevin Costner) convinces Jeff Carson (Pat Healy) of the Jaguars to give them the sixth pick.
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An NFL general manager (Kevin Costner faces tough decisions on draft day in this sports drama from director Ivan Reitman. Jennifer Garner, Dennis Leary, Frank Langella and Ellen Burstyn co-star.
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Cast: Denis Leary, Pat Healy, Kevin Costner
Director: Ivan Reitman
Producers: Ali Bell, Gigi Pritzker, Ivan Reitman, Tom Pollock, Joe Medjuck, Michael Beugg, Jason Blumenfeld
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Obviously this is just a movie, but I find it funny how this scene implies that the Browns' management is so much more competent than the Jaguars' 😂
Prime Records 2 thirds and a 4th is not the farm. Especially when most of those don't end up meaning anything or last name of Beathard.
Prime Records you do realize that the Niners picked the worst an interview the draft ahead of Petermam and the actual value of the picks points towards Chicago not SF. The likelihood of finding a difference maker in the 3rd or 4th round is actually rather slim. Its not like the Bears wasted an extra 1zg round pick in him like Houston and KC did. Man using 2 first round picks on a QB only to sit him for 2 yrs is plain dumb.
Prime Records a QB has more value then any other pick a day while this was a great defensive orientated draft there just aren't any superstars in it. The only truely safe pick was Adams and just about no GM is actually going to draft a safety inside the top 5. At least the Bears didn't draft an injured lb with drug issues in the first round. There was a reason why Fosters stock dropped quickly. Depth only goes so far if you don't have a QB your team is still going to suck no matter what kind of depth you have. Rather have the Bears QB situation then the actual bums the Niners have. Your much better off rolling the dice on a QB with a top 5 pick.
3 number 2 picks for 1 first round is good.
Prime Records whatever you say. It's all value wise and the #2 pick is worth more then the +3 pick and 3 other picks combined. There was no guarantee that the Niners would not trade the 2 pick. The league is full of low round picks. The league is run by above average QBS.
Kevin Costner: I just made the worst trade in history.
Bill o’Brien: Hold my beer.
I'm from Houston, I hear ya!
O'Brien's trade wasn't terrible. It was a necessity once we found out how much Hopkins was demanding. While Hopkins is one of if not the best receiver in the league. $27.5 million per season for a wide receiver is insane
Cardinals fan: Best trade ever
@@alexh8613 what are you talking about ? he took an injured David Johnson inflated contract so not only has he gave up the best WR in the league he took a big contract and got out of it a 2nd round pick ..
it was a horrible trade , plain and simple which resulted in Deshaun Watson doing a Strike action and jj watt leaving
the guy made so much damage in 2 years of trading it literally brought the texans 10 years backwards ..
@@TheBarbahaba David Johnson only had a $4.7 million cap hit this season. That's not a big contract. Hopkins is one of the best receivers in the league, but he was willing to sit out if he didn't get a $27 million a year contract. That's way to much for a wide receiver.
"Four, I want your next four number twos" - I love how the Jaguars GM tries to be a tough guy in the negotiation lol
Tries to be the tough guy 30 seconds after he was begging to know why Callahan is being passed up lmao
Greed will do that....look how big his eyes got.
I've met the Jaguars, lovely guys.
If I were the owner of the Jags and my GM traded a #6 pick in the draft for 3 2nd round picks I would fire him on the spot.
So that’s how the Jaguars got Gardner Minshew. The legend of the stache is born!
“Stay with me on planet earth here” on what planet is 3 2nd round picks worth the 6th overall?
Preach
It depends on the record. So the browns gave up the 7th pick of the seventh, on draft day, and the 2nd round picks the next two years. The jags will have the 6th and 7th pick of the 2nd round on draft day. Those can be traded to another team for a late first rounder. This is particularly true if you don’t think the 1st round pick is worth the players on the board.
Lol
When u think the qb is a bust its a great move.
Look at the talent in the 2nd rd nowadays..
Plus, browns 2nd rd picks at the time were basically 1st rounders. Getting 3 picks in the mid-30s is certainly worth a qb you think is a bust.
Dave Gettleman learned everything he knows from this movie.
This didnt age well
@@emuccino hell no it didnt😂😂 Jones looks great
@@clevelandcbi haha yeah that's what I'm saying
Eric Muccino aaaand gettleman strikes again
@@clevelandcbi No. No, he doesn't
The Jags GM should have known that often a Browns #2 pick is close to a 1st round pick.
All of this nonsense could have been avoided if he just stayed at 7th and picked vontae, this movie truly does reflect the incompetency of the browns
Shawn Mose true but then he wouldn’t have gotten ray Jennings and David Putney
@@graceramey4443 he turned 1 pick into 3 impact players, thats good
He wouldn't have had Bo as leverage against Seattle if he hadn't cast doubt on his prospects by passing on him at #1.
Yeah and if you want Ray Jennings that bad maybe trade your 2nd this year & 1st next year
Grace Ramey he gave up 3 2nd rounders for those guys. Not exactly a great deal.
So he convinces the guy that if he took the star QB that was supposed to go number 1 at 6 people would say it was a bad move? They make the Jacksonville GM look like a moron, no one is that stupid.
Lol the dumbest part is he’s asking what’s wrong with Bo. It’s such a massive plot hole because:
1. Didn’t you freaking scout the guy??????
2. JUST PICK SOMEONE ELSE INSTEAD OF TRADING THE 6TH PICK FOR NOTHING YOU DUNCE
@@wondersplaysgames he asked because his scout team doesn't have a birthday division.
@@wondersplaysgames Yup. the real scenario would in fact be another team not dumb enough to not pick Callahan would have traded up to somewhere in the top 5 before this.
Oh no JC? Have you SEEN that Jaguars over the last 2 decades?
Trent Baalake
Trade away all your picks, trade to get them all back and then pat yourself on the back for ending up where you started. Whoever wrote this script doesn't know very much about football.
I was trying to remember if that's what happen
Mike Honcho Well they ended up with an extra 1st round pick that year along with a punt returner. Sonny was going to probably take Mack, but he needed to take the RB that Arian Foster plays
Mike Honcho it was entertaining though.
Two impact players in the draft, to complicate your long-term QB, at the cost of three 2nd round picks (generally speaking the talent available 20-50 is basically at the same level).
You give up a good bit of your future for today, but that's how it goes sometimes
Browns get their guys, Seahawks get the QB that they wanted on a $10m cheaper rookie deal, and Jacksonville leaves out of the situation with 2 2nds for the next 3 years (2 picks in the top 60 this season, with 3 picks in the top 60 for the two after that, for a potential 8 impact players in 3 years).
I love how Sonny has no idea who's on the clock or up next. We're still in the top 10. You're the GM. How do you not know this.
Because he is the Clowns GM
because its a horribly written movie
He says that Denver is on the clock and that the Jags are next. What movie are you watching?
@@Rockhound6165 They're not watching the movie at all-- they're just trying to "own" a fictional GM.
He leaves the draft room quite a bit in this movie. I’m pretty sure most GMs stay put the entire time. It’s the most important night of the year for their job. You gotta be aware of who is still available and who is picking where so you can trade up or trade back as needed.
Bo Callahan ends up being an 8 time All-Pro, 3 time Super Bowl winning, Hall of Fame Quarterback. Vontae ends up being a complete bust, as does Jennings. Well done Cleveland, well done
And still no one comes to Bo's birthday party who isn't paid to.
@@jsharp1701 Bo don't need friends. Bo knows rings.
Since it was the Browns, i bet the draft turned out to be a bust.
suny123boy123boy1 + I'm a Ravens fan, the last thing we need right now is the Browns being good.
But yeah, they did manage to do surprisingly well this year. But still given how shambolic their organisation is, I wonder if they will be able get the most out of those young kids.
suny123boy1 49ers had the best draft
Biggus Dickus your avi made me think there was hair on my screen:/
Biggus Dickus i
It was a movie lol... none of those players had any impact on anything.
They’re called second rounders, not number 2 picks
They can be called a team's number 2 as well. As in, "The Jaguars just traded away a sure-fire HOFer for 3 number 2s from the Browns."
"That's probably a good deal, Steve. Those number 2s from the Browns are essentially late 1s."
0:59 Every year someone comes out of this looking like a donkey...and it's usually the Browns
Man Times Have Changed
We just need a conference call with the New York Jets and we'd have a classic 3 Stooges episode
It’s like when I play NHL 20. Two first rounders and a top prospect for one guy with reduced salary. Game no deal lol
At the end of this movie, Jeff was fired for not realizing he could have called Seattle's GM and fleeced him for the Bo Callahan pick.
Well, Jeff did get 2 more years of second round picks, and then moving down to the second round for the year, so Jeff sort of came out a winner.
‘Every year, someone comes out of here looking like a donkey.” Its us. The Browns
Sonny weaver jr > dave gettleman
Well you may have to reconsider this after week 3
GTC Pohorex how’d weeks 5-17 go though
It feels so ironic they picked Johny Manziel in the real world... while Seahawks already had Russell Wilson.
z30k they also picked Gilbert
@@nkm080 and the Broncos picked freakin Osweiler when Wilson was still available...
"idk man..it's my gut feeling" has gotten so many GMs FIRED lmao
Lmao true.
"This is a good deal Jeff". Jeff hangs up after hearing that
I personally loved this movie.
Me too. It came out on my birthday in 2014...the year my team drafted the real-life Bo Callahan: Johnny Manziel. We all know how THAT turned out.
The best line "look Jeff every year someone comes out if this looking like a Donkey." Haha. Kevin Coster classic actor!
This scene feels like the kid that had 2 montht to prepare for the test, but he used all his time partying, so he is trying to do all the work 15 minutes before the test.
No way in hell do you give your only first round pick for 3 seconds.
@Dark Demonik only if that 1st rounder is not in the top 10. Keep in mind that 1st round picks are much more valuable to a team now because they are locked into a rookie pay scale contract. 4 or 5 years.
TCU top 4 of college teams putting players in the NFL draft. Most in the big 12.
Trading one of the jaguars is more like going to high school all the sudden.
Kevin Cosner is a excelent actor I love you
I'm about to watch draft day for the 10,000th time lol.
No one ever makes that trade. 🙄🤦🏻♂️🤪
Essentially, the browns traded 3 2nd round picks for a RB and a punt returner. Poor job.
The Browns can't draft.
But they can Free Agent.
The movieclips comments on this movie in particular give me a little life.
The Browns would know a thing or two about Busts
The one exciting moment in the entire movie
“He’s a bust. I don’t know, gut feeling. It’s a character thing..” He just described Baker Mayfield. Lol 😂
Nope Mayfield isnt a bust and hasnt been in trouble at all
@@KamuiCage you sure?
No it was a perfect representation of Johnny Manziel.
Mayfield had a helluva good year in Tampa.
Mayfield was no bust. He was misused by the Browns. I mean, let's look at this. The Browns threw a lot of money at Deshawn Watson to end up with Joe Flacco. Meanwhile Mayfield went to Tampa, blew out the defending NFC champions in the playoffs, and played a damned good game against Detroit. In fact, Tampa with Mayfield will continue to do better than Cleveland with Watson.
Was going to watch it but couldn’t wait the 20 second add
I like how this movie is about the NFL draft but the dialog is as serious as Hostage Negotiation LOL
" stay with me on planet earth here " Yea I feel that talking to my clients.
Jonathan Kent just drafted the Black Panther man.
0:22 That guy earlier in the movie confidently said Bo Callahan was an allstar. Now Sonny says he's a bust and I enjoyed seeing the confusion. This guy now thinks "crap, my job is now on the line"
No team would ever trade a #6 first rounder for 3 2nd round picks
I'll bet most real-life NFL GMs saw this and were laughing hysterically. They would have hung up on Sonny when he offered that deal. I'm just a regular Joe, and I would have needed a heck of a lot more than three second-rounders for that pick!
Especially since it's not a real #6 first rounder. Even if Jacksonville doesn't want or need Callahan, why are they talking to Cleveland? They have plenty of time to call other team, maybe even Seattle, and trade Callahan (who is not regular #6, but most of the people consider him as best choice) for something far better than 3 second round picks.
Two of my favorite teams negotiating XD
David Kolb Browns and Jags are your favorite teams? I feel so sorry for you 🤦♂️
Wait wtf. Is that John Diggle?
Marcus Watson damn I just noticed lol
Saul Goodman knows his stuff
After this bad trade , Jacksonville fired the GM and last i heard he was driving a cab in Nebraska
TIME.....the single greatest advantage you can have in any negotiation. TIME.
Love this movie! It reminded me how cool It could be to be aGM & How horrifying it could be LOL
It has too many mistakes. Even in this scene. Coach said he gave away 3 first rounder and 3 second rounder, but he didn't. He has #1 and #6 (at this point of the movie), so he only gave away 1 first rounder.
In true Browns fashion, Vontae died 1 year after signing a contract extension with a huge signing bonus in 2020.
So this is what happened to Jeff after Saul helped him lol
This movie makes Sonny out to be a genius. In reality he was just really, really lucky that nobody took Bo Callahan before Jacksonville.
Certainly some of that was because Cleveland passed on him, but that was not the result of some brilliant plan by Sonny.
Its not luck its called bad writing
Luck? Nope. That was never the plan. He learns in the 7th round that because he passed on Bo it spooked everyone and that everyone was now passing on him. Sunny was just as surprised by this as anyone. He then sees an opprotunity to take advantage get back everything he lost and then some.
@@robfitzgerald307 exactly. A lot of people seem to miss this in the comments section for this movie. It was pretty clear that the second and third teams spooked, the fourth wasn’t interested anyway, and because Jeff had little experience he was easily manipulated. Sonny didn’t see the situation coming, he just seized on the opportunity when it came up, and that’s a very important skill. Sure, we can talk about how stupid the deal was from the start, but he deserves credit for being able to come out of it on top. He made many mistakes but he was able to overcome them, somewhat by luck, yes, but it also requires skill to know how to use that luck.
It also makes no sense how Callahan is hailed by the media as the next great prospect since Andrew Luck yet not one team has done enough scouting on him to trust their own intuition and instead is “spooked” by Sonny, a failing GM, not drafting him.
the draft is reality TV at its finest
Excellent film!
Best sports Fantasy movie ever...
Bill Bur always getting these obscure roles.
Bo Callahan goes on to lead the Seahawks to 3 Super Bowl championships. Meanwhile, Brian Drew blows out his knee, again, which effectively ends his career as a starter, Vontae Mack becomes a draft bust and Ray Jennings, after 3 years of subpar performances with the Browns, is released and picked up by the Seahawks and helps Callahan win championships. Sonny Weaver is effectively fired and never works as an NFL GM again.
Why didn't Jacksonville ask for the 2nd +3rd in this draft plus the 2nds in each of the next two drafts?
Who would trade 4 years out? Getting an additional 3rd in this year or the following year would be a much more realistic counter than four consecutive second round picks.
lmao 3 second rounders is awful for the number 6 pick, what the hell were the writers doing
Yeah, he would have had to give one or two 1s from one of the later years.
@@welestgw even more than that probably because 1s are hard to predict where they will fall the next season
According to the classic Jimmy Johnson NFL draft pick value chart it's a low offer but maybe only 1 pick low. The 6 pick is worth 1600, and second-rounders are worth between 580 and 270. However other more modern charts give relatively more value to the second round picks, 3 high second rounders are just about equal to the 6th pick.
@@doktarr teams dont use the johnson chart anymore, its not accurate
@@levivv Sure but the newer charts rate 2nd round picks relatively higher.
Anyway I agree it's a lowball offer, just not a RIDICULOUSLY lowball offer.
I wish they'd make a movie like this with the NHL.
Victoria Dixon
TRUE
That would be awesome
And NBA too :(
Didn't realize the NHL was still a thing
The NHL has a draft? Oh ok I see they do. Well that's the reason right there
I love how the guy who gave away first round picks for a guy that would have fell to him in the draft is telling another gm not to be the donkey
This movie really is wonderfull i like so much
They should make a new movie called Make It Happen Howie
Sonny: ‘I think Callahan is a bust.’
Browns play Seattle in a year
Seattle 49 Browns 6
But Vontae got to sack him once!
Every fantasy football trade talk ever
There is not a draft value chart on the planet where 3 second round picks, especially future picks, are worth #6. You’d need 3 years of 2’s a couple 3’s and a player
my man Diggle!!
ive watched this a thousand times but i just wondered, he offered 3 second PICKS and when they restated it they said 3 second rounders. Had the browns traded to somehow get 2 picks in the first round what would have happened? I know its dumb but im curious if thats just an error in the movie or not lol
One has to wonder how painful this movie is for Cleveland fans. This fictional Browns front office is depicted as being competent and understanding how to not just look at talent for their face value but rather all the other small qualities and flaws that could make a difference, it's nothing like the actual Browns front office.
Comedy and fantasy genres in one. 3 2nd rounds to get a pick that within 15 min turns into 3 1st rounds
The guy is admittedly new! Don't go looking. Great flic
As an absolute greenhorn w.r.t. the NFL ( ultra South African rugby fan) this was an amazing movie. Between Tom Brady and movies like this, I'm becoming an American football convert 😁😁
cool to hear bro🤜🤛
I hope they do a part 2 where Bo Callahan became all time great and Vontae became a bust 😂
Firing Day.
Well, Vonte did become Black Panther before dying tragically.
So why wasn't Seattle calling Jacksonville???
I wish they did the same movie for the nba.
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he was a great actor stunt of the movie NO WAY OUT
Love this movie, LOVE Kevin Costner
Ironically a 6th overall pick is wayyy more valuable than two seconds, even potentially high ones at that lmao.
Three seconds is closer
Even if Jacksonville doesn't want or need Callahan, why are they talking to Cleveland? They have plenty of time to call other team, maybe even Seattle, and trade Callahan (who is not regular #6, but most of the people consider him as best choice) for something far better than 3 second round picks.
oh my god it sounds like the actors are just reading the lines for the first time
VERY Rewatchable Movie...Simple and Good
This is common among trades. Normally the 2nd pick that year is guaranteed and the other 2 are throw ups. This is mostly where your bad reputation as a team comes in handy.
The Browns finessing the Jags 😂. That’s hilarious. And I guess...yeah. It would just be a mathematical inevitability: if they’re the teams involved, one of them can come out better w/out being the one the moves were put on. Lol, nice
So it costs 3 seconds for the 6th overall but 3 firsts for the same pick 5 mins later lol
I used to think this was so unrealistic, but now I can see Tony Khan doing this to Jacksonville lol. Yes I know Khan isn't the GM, but this is still a Tony Khan move.
In this video, both of these guys are playing poker in the NFL, and it's interesting to see who wins, and will blink,calling each others BLUFF
Fast forward 2019.
You cut the scene short.
I actually saw this movie in the theaters
So really when all is said and done they traded 3 years of 2nd rounders for the rookie running back and a punt returner. They have to spend more as well for using the first pick.
Entertaining movie but hardly the deal of the century.
I'd still be looking to fire him.
Iirc they got all back the first pick they gave the previous year?
This Jeff guy is literally how I imagine Bob Quinn on draft night.. doesn’t have a clue
I wish it cut back to the Jags GM at the end after he then flipped the #6 for three first rounders lmao
I knew where he was going the first time I saw this movie.
How did I start watching clips of this movie? Im British and have absolutely no idea how the NFL draft (much less picks) works
Not anything close to this
Giving up draft picks to move up is always risky...
There's no way in hell 3 second round picks are worth a top 10 pick. That's just a bad trade on either side. I don't even work in the NFL and I know this.
So they could've just traded 3 2nd rounders for the 6th pick, then drafted the RB, then get Vontae with the 7th pick and just drafted a punt returner in the 5th round. And they would have spent less money.
John Dutton a hell of a cowboy and hell of a GM
This scene always makes me think of Manziel. The most predictable bust in recent times? It was so obvious that an undersized rushing QB with a passing game way below NFL standard was going to bust. Yet Browns of all teams picked him? They were sure the donkeys that draft. I'm convinced that something like this took place and Browns were manipulated into taking Manziel by Philadelphia.
👏😂👏👍👍
Money manziel
Happier than hell that the Saints didn't pick him instead
Someone explain to me how the 6th overall pick is worth three 2nd rounders? I know it’s Jacksonville but still...