Spend $7,200... And Don't Get To Meet Metallica
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- Metallica's upcoming world tour has finally been announced, along with the VIP Ticket Upgrades... And the prices of those upgrades has music fans all over the world talking. But are they worth it? On a recent Twitch stream, we checked out all the VIP Options, the prices, what you get out of it, and I share my experiences of being on tours that had similar VIP packages.
00:00 Intro
00:35 Metal Injection Article
02:23 Most Bands Don't Enjoy This
05:43 The Mid & Low Tier VIP Packages
09:31 The $7,200 VIP Package
14:27 The Average Music Fan Is Being Priced Out
15:47 Outro
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This is why I've been appreciating the "lower tier" bands lately that still play at smaller venues and you don't buy through live nation. Better overall experience, and cheaper prices. More left over for merch to support the band even more
Totally.
That’s why I stopped going to the big stadium thing. Sure I won’t see the big names anymore but at least I did in the past compared to the younger generation.
Now I’m lucky to live in a small country with tax advantages meaning that I get to see nice acts (like alter bridge, slash or Gojira with 3/4K attendance max) on the cheap and most importantly without stress to have a nice spot.
Honestly I feel bad for the young generation. I’ve seen AC/DC in a stadium seating at the top and it sounded like crap plus you don’t see a thing …
Yeah. I spent about 70 bucks to go see Primus and I was at the front row the whole time and the mosh pit was crazy. It got really quiet and respectful when they did the “Tribute To Kings” set that they were doing for the tour. So I got a Primus concert and the whole Farewell To Kings album in one 70 dollar package. Plus the shirt was like 25 or 30 bucks so all in all it was awesome.
Exactly. I saw Amon Amarth, Carcass and Obituary for 60 bucks. Amazing show no bullshit
just picked up GA tickets for papa roach, falling in reverse, hollywood undead, and escape the fate for $50 each at a smaller venue here in town, when some of the bigger venues on the tour want $200. it’s nuts.
Same.
Big concerts are becoming a privilege of the rich. Happy I went to a lot of shows in the 2000's when it was very rare to pay more than 50 bucks for a ticket for pretty much any band.
maybe for shit group like this. I mean slipknot don't charge this much.
I got my metal concerts out of the way in the 90s-through the mid 2000s. If I do see another band then it will be in a night club!
Shit I started goin to shows in the early 70s saw Tull thick as a brick 72 Black Sabbath Sabbath Bloody Sabbath & Deep Purple Burn tour in 74 along with Genesis Cooper...most I payed back then was 7.00....bands nobody will ever see again.
You should see my ticket stubs & how much I paid. It's shocking compared to today. Every once in a while, I'll check a show to see how much tickets are. It never fails to shock me. I've said repeatedly that I will never go to a large show again especially through Ticketmaster.
VIP experiences are cringe. Just buy a ticket and go to the show.
I remember my dad telling me about his backstage pass experience with Motörhead and the second he walked into the room he got worn underpants thrown at him as a joke. They all laughed and handed drinks to him and the other people that came in. Every time we talked about concerts he brought it up and described it as one of the best concert experiences he had.
I've always heard Lemmy was super accessable to fans even away from shows. Like at Rainbow, he'd talk and drink with fans. You just didn't bother him if he was playing the bar top slot machine 🤣
Lemmy was a kind soul. That man truly loved his work and his fans. On the other hand, Metallica are just money hungry hacks.
Now none of us can prove Lemmy threw the underwear... but none of us would put it past him to have thrown the underwear.
There was a 2nd thrower in the grassy knoll....
@@zonachokeimma take a guess and say he did it 🤣
"The Bleeding Me Bank Account" Experiance: $991.00
1 photo with cardboard cutout of Jason Newsted or Ron McGoverny.
1 bus ticket that stops close to arena (excluding Holidays.)
2 refreshments (limited to stadium nachos, no cheese)
1 commemorative surplus tour poster from previous tour
1 ticket that allows viewing of concert on CCTV screen in concourse B.
Price to see a greatest hits band that had some good albums three decades ago....priceless.
'stadium nachos, no cheese" now that just Kafkaesque
$20 beers
I need that cardboard cut out 😅
no doubt... and bud light is only 18.99 for a 12oz cup no pints allowed😅
For every normal guy such as you and me will look at that pricetag and think thats outrageous theres propably few rich guys out there that went: "oh thats a no brainer, a private booth in a good spot for me and my homies" and bought that without a second thought. These most exclusive packages were never meant for us regular folk in the first place. Its for the people that buy them and dont even notice the money is missing.
If that’s the only big thing you do for the year anyone can buy one of those tickets (well outside the snake pit)
I remember the good old days when you could buy a few cases of beer and sell them in the parking lot for $1 each to buy tickets off scalpers at the last minute. All you had to do to get back stage was have some killer weed. How times have changed.
YES. I'm 55. We were those guys. Would drink a few and sell the rest. GREAT memories. The killer weed gets you a chill sesh with TankTheTech and endless HD concert videos on RUclips. It could be worse. ;)
@@stevenr5149 just nothing below 20% thc ...lol
You still need killer grass. Trust me on that 😁
@@tempurasupplyco well, nowadays, it's the dabs. They gotta be 🔥.
@@tempurasupplyco back in the olden days when most of the weed was seedy moldy brick weed from mexico some good Humboldt weed opened a lot of doors
I've been listening to Metallica since '86. I've seen them in concert in 92 and 97. Listening to all these VIP options and how much it costs, just makes me realize more that I'm ONLY in it for the music. Sad but true. :D
Saw them 12 times 90's going into the 2000's. Heck, my uncle saw them live when Cliff was still breathing. Paid $35 for standing room only and that was non Ticketmaster. $7000? Heck. for that money, Dave Mustaine better be there lol
But what most people do not understand is the cost for big acts. Once an act becomes successful, the expenses for them become much higher. For example, the cost of renting venues, the salary for their crew, their equipment, the number of trucks used to haul the equipment etc. It is not the bands fault, it is the fact that they now have to pay more for everything that goes on behind the scenes. Oh and did I mention that every dollar they get they have to pay their managers, agents, attorneys etc. These bands are literally spending millions to put on shows now, and they need to recoup that money. Nobody seems to think of the expenses. You think every member of Metallica does not have their own manager, agent and attorney? You think rent fees, and lugging around tons of equipment is free? You think having to settle BS lawsuits because somebody got hurt at their show is free? Sure they could just not have a concert set. could fire their crew, fire their managers etc, and sell tickets for $20, but why should they have to do that? Why should one of the biggest acts in the world have to tour like a bar band just to sell cheap tickets?
@@chrisgullett4332 Are you saying there is no economy of scale being a big band rather than a bar band?
@@slashmaster2 That is exactly what I am saying. Big acts have huge payrolls and expenses, small time acts do not. It is that simple. Your local bar band does not have a team of stylist, does not have a production team, security team, does not have to rent venues, does not have truckloads of equipment, does not have to pay large insurance premiums etc. Big acts make big money, but they also pay big money to tour. They have to recoup their money, plus make a profit. These acts are not making as much as you think. Allow me to explain. You will see things all the time like 'music act's tour grosses $100 million'. People that lack critical thinking thinks that means that act made $100 million, but it does not mean that at all. So let's say they grossed $100 million on tour. Go ahead and knock 50% off for taxes. That leaves $50 million. Now what were all of their expenses? Managers get 10%, lawyers get a cut, they had to rent arenas, they had to pay their crew, they have to pay insurance, they have to pay to travel and to move their equipment etc. Then if it is a five person band what is left gets split 5 ways. So in the end they might be lucky to end up with more than 5 million each. But the average person does not think about taxes and expenses. Do you goofs not remember TLC having the biggest album of the year, having a huge tour, but being broke? That is one of the best examples of how the music business is not what most people think it is. Another great example is a Tribe Called Quest, who sold over a million albums, but each member ended up making $36 thousand each. Were they ripped off, no, they had expenses to pay, and that is what they were left with after they paid everything. There is a video of Q-Tip explaining how they ended up only making $36 thousand each. So when a music act generates money, it does not mean they get that money. They get a cut of it.
Pun intended
I went and saw Demon Hunter with two other bands in Austin, TX doing a 2 hour set themselves covering their 11 albums, plus meet and greet and a photo with the band, and VIP package with stickers, 7" flexi vinyl exclusive tour single. Two tickets roughly $250 total.
3+ hours of metal at a local venue at it was awesome!
That is getting your $$ worth
I did the Demon Hunter VIP on the most recent tour and it was a great experience. Def worth the money and they were so nice and welcoming.
Demon Hunter is awesome!!
I dunno who the fuck demon hunter is but you get the idea. There are many bands playing many shows that are affordable. These people who are mad that Metallica is too expensive missed it a long time ago, and if you only like the very biggest bands that's on you.
Who?
I will consider myseld EXTREMELY fortunate that I was able to see Metallica on their Damaged Justice Tour back in 1988, and meet them backstage after the show, all for free. I just happened to go to school with the promoters son of whom I was good friends with. We got in for the sound check before the show, good seats during the show, and backstage after. I was able to get all 4 members to sign the tour book which I still have and will never part with.
Seeing the cost of even going to a show now, let alone being able to meet the band, makes my head hurt.
"Of whom I was good friends with." 🤣
You made a fair point that ticket prices are so high now, that to go to more than an one major a year becomes a huge financial burden. You can’t sometimes even go without months of financial planning to the one show. Especially if you are young.
Thank God for my Metallica/Pantera show, It's a year away :o
Yes this! I have to save up for a few months just to afford one show
dont forget the long drive (ga$ ) food , booze, maybe a cheap hotel.... add another $500
VIP is such a ripoff most of the time. You can tell 8/10 bands really don't want to be there. Unless its relatively cheap, it is rarely worth it. Some of the best band meet and greet experiences I have had were free when I just happened to see them around the venue or outside (as you suggested, bands that hang around these spots tend to want to meet their fans)
That’s how I met members of the Offspring and it was awesome.
That's exactly how I got to blow Slash and it was awesome
Exactly. My "Meet and greet" with Cannibal Corpse, Vader, Dying Fetus, Amon Amarth, Obituary, Nile, Emperor, Hate Eternal(Have met Erik so many times he'd recognize me, dudes a master of Ms. Pacman) were completely free.
Bands that dont want to be there, you mean bands..or in my case, band members, like Dave Mustaine?
Man, have things changed. In '89 I saw them with The Cult opening for the "Justice" tour; ticket was around $20 and for the price of just hanging around after the show around the buses we got to meet, talk with, and get autographs from James, Lars, Kirk, and Jason.
yep, met so many just hanging around
According to a documentary during the Justice Tour the band would hang around until every fan left to make sure everyone got to meet them despite them being giant at the time already. WAs this actually true because if so that's wild!
@@ThotdFan127 I don't know about everything, but usually those of us who are still there out back by the buses when they came out we're the only ones left because everyone else had gone home so to me it was more like rewarding the ones crazy enough to stay till 2:00 in the morning
I'm 57 and have been involved in the Metal scene for over 40 years. I'm lucky enough to have friends who are or have played in several major Metal bands and I also had a late friend who was in the vintage guitar business and he was friends with dozens of famous guitarists. So thru those connections I have got to meet and actually hang out with many bands and have all access passes. I can't imagine paying any amount of money to meet some band. I saw Metallica back in the very early days and they were just hanging out at the bar before their show and talking with fans. It's a shame people think that paying to meet bands/musicians is special, they don't want to meet you and they don't care about you. It's just about the money.
They only care about the money? That's a load of BS.
U dont get it@@ARandomInternetUser08
Yes, I remember too!
@@ARandomInternetUser08 Seeing how they care more about the money then the music and the fans, it's 100% about the money.
@@NPK476 incorrect. You still provided zero proof, only assumptions.
I did a VIP experience for In Flames a few years ago. It’s one of the first shows after Chris Broadrick joined so he wasn’t there,but the other 4 were. When people didn’t ask the same stupid questions that always gets asked in interviews they were a lot of fun. Got an I, The Mask signed poster and lament. Got a photo with the band. The best part was person who was suppose to come with me got sick and was dealing with a serious illness. I ask for a video message and the manager tried to move me along but Anders and Tanner both spoke up and they plus Bjorn and Bryce did a video message and well wishes. Meant the world to me and her.
On the flip side, I took a buddy to see Doyle and did the VIP since he loves the Misfits. Awful show. The VIP was afterwards so couldn’t even duck out early. He had someone else ask our names and couldn’t even get those right. They went so fast with the pics they came out blurry. And all the VIP merch was all old leftover stuff from old tours.
Doyles with Alyssa........ kinda explains it all.
just look at his gf. really tells you all you need to know
@@mootkickee same comment as me. 😂👍👍👍 that whole photographer thing was disgracefull and ita not the first time she's pulled that shit too
@@Mr_jz_12 yeah dude, she’s a disgrace. she blocked me on Instagram for simply saying how that photographer deserved an apology.
I stopped buying their shit years ago because she sounds like shit, but the icing on the cake is she’s a joke of a human.
I saw Metallica in 1996. I paid $35. Corrosion of Conformity were the opening act.
Would I pay thousands to get this experience? No. I'd rather see newer bands I haven't seen. Orbit Culture and Brand of Sacrifice are at the top of my list. 🤘🏻
Damn, COC opening for Metallica in that era? Sign me up. 🤘
@@TankTheTech I legit saw people who went just for CoC then left. 😆
I mean, personal taste? I like COC more than Metallics.
@@TankTheTech at the time, I knew little about CoC. I never got into them, although I did learn to play Albatross on guitar.
I appreciate you taking the time to engage with your viewers. When the subscriber count climbs to where it should, it'll be a challenge for you 😆
Metallica were big still, but not considered cool anymore, and they lost a lot of old fans. They were 'old' lol
German well-known hip-hop group "Die Fantastischen Vier" have a service on their tours, a webshop where you can buy a flash drive with your concerts live recording. You don't need a code or anything, you just browse on the site, look for your venue and date and you can buy a copy of the live audio. I was totally mindblown because since then I kind of don't get why (major) artists don't always provide that. It's so cool to have the recording of "my" concert back in 2016 sitting in my shelf, and even the ability to copy the mp3s on my smartphone and dig in to my memories of the concert. It really makes you remember the show more vividly when you can - at least soundwise - travel back and experience it again.
Should be standard in the damn 2020s by now, if you ask me. And the VIP service (which should be charged for appropriately ofc) would be video recordings. And yes, I realize that would be even more expenditure on the artist/crew/venue site, hence why I would have that as VIP tier. But the sound recording? That's just dope.
I saw Unleash the Archers last year in September in NYC. Did the meet and greet for that one and it was only about $60 on top of the price of the ticket. You did have to buy the ticket and vip pass on separate websites which was slightly annoying but aside from that it was awesome. Everyone got a signed posted as well as one or 2 other things. Plus a photo. And you could bring stuff for them to sign as well. And it really didn't feel like we were being rushed at all. I brought the earbook that I bought for Abyss and had the whole band sign it. Then after anyone that got the VIP pass was let in before everyone else so we could buy merch/get a good spot close to the stage.
We did the Ghost VIP experience in September. The concert was on my wife's birthday. We had our 11 year old with us. There was a lot of waiting in various lines over several hours. Finally, we got to the photo part with Tobias. We were in the middle of the line. When our turn finally got around, the handler gave us our instructions, and we went into the photo 'booth'. Tobias had us stand on our marks, the picture was taken, and my wife commented that this was "the best birthday present ever". Tobias said, very, very nicely "Today's your birthday? Happy Birthday!" I thanked him for all the work he puts into entertaining us, and he said "You're welcome."
I have no idea if he was just going through the motions of yet another meet and greet, or if he was genuinely happy to be interacting with his fans. He certainly gave off the impression that he enjoyed it. There was nothing to indicate he wasn't. It was a pretty hefty price to do, but it was 100% worth it.
Maybe because Tobias didn't go through fame and fortune at a young age and played clubs for over 15 years, he's more humble than the ones who had overnight success and were more self-indulgent and bratty.
Ghost is a C List band and need to pay the bills.
I think Tobias loves to do those. But i think Ghost has reached a point where he is done and dusted after a full show or even tour package.
Who would you consider to be a B list band? @@TOMVUTHEPIMP
@@Aaron_French Trivium.
my favorite band is Tool - but the last time I was able to afford to see them was in 1998 - the last tour that came through my area the cheapest seats in the nosebleeds were over $100 - anything close was $600 to $2000 - before scalpers got hold of them - many fans are being priced out of seeing concerts at all
Looked into the blink 182 concert coming up in my local town and it was 200-300 dollars for a ticket BEHIND THE FUCKING STAGE. You can't see anything literally.
Agreed they are on of mine also. Was going to see them last year and the shit people just buy them up and fk us over.
Best bet is festivals where for 2-300 you can see 10 bands a day
I got a VIP ticket for Spiritbox next year. It was 3x the price of regular tickets, plus the same fees.
That said, now in resale the regular tickets are often more than my VIP was.
I've always wanted to see Metallica but there is no way I could afford any of those prices. It's like they singled out a lot of other fans.
not all ticket prices were anywhere close to that. decent seats in dallas were 150.00 maybe 225 with fees
I have a ticket stub from 97 from the load tour and it was nosebleed seats but they were only $35 bucks compared to today where they are probably 2-300 for those same seats.
@@manicmurph for the stadium in Phoenix, the upper deck is $170 total, for 2 nights. When the single night tickets go on sale, it will be more than the $85/night.
@Shane LaRene How is that possible? Where do you get your tickets from?
It's a spectacle the ticket pricing and will be ironed out next year
Everytime I go see D.R.I for 3 tickets always pay 50 dollars and they usually play at small venues and the signer is selling merch at the table! Such a good guy, he takes the time to talk to everyone
Also they suck so yea that’s why you pay$50
Those mp3 downloads will be online so fast after the concerts, I think....
I would imagine so. Haha
The biggest show I ever went to was Lamb of God at a smaller sports stadium. It wasn’t even that expensive all things considered; after fees it was $100 to see four bands that all kicked ass and put on a great show. I just cannot justify spending such an exorbitant amount of money on even a VIP experience. At this point, I would much rather support local bands and smaller bands from nearby cities doing weekend tours.
The problem with meet and greets is the chances of getting sick during your tour increases. Getting sick during a tour would suck, especially for a vocalist. I had a chance to meet a touring artist today, but I cancelled, because I’m sick 😂 But if you’d paid a ton for that privilege, I’m not sure most people would miss the chance.
@KarlRock You’re a good person.
These days if I was in a band and I was doing a meet and greet I would be wearing a mask
Machine head vip was great. Especially Robb, that man is so approachable for someone of his stature within the industry. very genuine guy
And you don't need to buy VIP to get a badass show.
As a phish fan, I have been dealing with Ticketmasters BS and the scalpers for decades. It’s about time it started happening to other artists. Live nation is the ultimate monopoly they own the entertainment industry all around the world, and the government needs to step in and break this monopoly up, I say knowing that they won’t.
Seriously. I fucking hate Ticketmaster AND LiveNation. I have a friend who was supposed to play on the main stage and open for Breaking Benjamin and Alice in Chains, but they instead had to play on a pop-up stage and weren't allowed to sell merch. They'd spent a couple thousand on shirts and even brought back an old design that people really wanted, but it was in vain. They were supposed to play at 2:05, but doors didn't open until 2:00, so NO ONE was in the crowd and we missed all but one song out of their 4-6 song set. We caught up to him after he did press near the merch table and I asked him about merch, he explained the whole thing, and also said that LiveNation was making them leave immediately after. I don't know if they stayed, but they weren't the only ones who had problems with this show.
They gave our seats away on Day 1 (3 day fest) because they didn't sell enough lawn tickets (it's an amphitheater with lawn seating), so people who paid 25 for lawn seats got OUR 45 dollar seats as an upgrade. We complained, and they gave us better seats for both days, but the seats they gave us were ALSO taken. WHAT THE FUCK LIVENATION.
My boyfriend tried to get a refund for how shitty of an experience we had from Ticketmaster, as that's who we bought our tickets from, but all they gave him was $12 ticket cred and a "go fuck yourself pretty much. Fuck Ticketmaster, and fuck LiveNation.
The herpes that was Clear Channel morphed into LiveNation.
I had the meet and greet with blackie lawless last month. It was well worth it. He spent along time taking fans questions and he answered them honestly and thoroughly. He was very fan friendly got pictures taken 50.00 off the merchandise table. I had waited 38 years to meet blackie and it was worth every penny. I would've paid double for that experience
$700
Now i feel extremly greatful for being 5 rows from the front for a $200 weekend ticket at Rockville. And buying the mp3 for $20😂
I did a meet and greet with Damageplan for 15 bucks back in 2004. Who would have ever thought that going to a metal show would cost as much as taking your family on a vacation but here we are.
I paid 300$ for the meet amd greet in 2019 for King Diamond. King himself didn't have much of a choice to put on a good show, and he did but the band really didn't seem to care much. The heartbreaker was Andy who came off as indignited at having to be there.
Tickets for the date I'm looking at are $90 for stadium seats and $315 for on the field. Not too bad considering it covers both shows. I've never seen them live before and def expected the GA prices to be closer to some of these VIP prices
Where is that?? I’m going to the Montreal Canada shows and it starts at $900 😳
I absolutely love Metallica, and I have seen them over 20 times in concert, but the last time I saw them was on their St Anger tour. Actually was front row when they played in Nashville and Lemmy was filming his documentary movie. In fact, we are seen in the crowd in the movie. Even back then, tickets were only like $79 or something like that. I just can't justify going to see any band for that kind of money. $400 for one ticket is just too much. These other packages to get snake pit and backstage are beyond ridiculous as far as pricing. It is to the point to where the middle class people can't even go to shows like this; only the rich can afford those types of packages. Glad I met them all years ago.
Before VIP packages it would take something special to get backstage. In the 90's I was working in a record store and a record label exec had extra passes at the last minute and I got to meet one of my faves. Even with VIP packages, there is one established hit band I have met backstage because they make the opportunity available for a community of fans who regularly attend multiple shows on a tour. However, these people had to wait for the VIP experience to be over, so the band had to put in TWICE the extra time. Somehow, just paying for access takes the shine away.
I saw that Luxe package when it was released. I'm not making excuses because that is absolutely ridiculous, but if I understand it correctly it's for the entire platform. If you're splitting that with your buddies, that's not too terrible. The most I ever spent for two tickets was just under $1,900 for backstage VIP passes for scorpions on this last tour. It was for my 22-year-old son and I and it was more for the life, father son experience. It was worth every single penny. We each caught a stick from Klaus and after the show he said it was one of the best nights of his life.
The 7K package as actually cheaper than floor "seats" right now thanks to Ticketbastard's "dynamic pricing" at my local venue. It's just silly
I got a VIP as a gift once. Wasn’t sure I even wanted to do it but I got to the venue early and I did and got to meet Amorphis, Delain and Anneke Van Geirsbergen. Everyone was so kind and I got a picture from it and the show was awesome
I absolutely love your Electric Callboy Tekkno album in the background between all those other metal covers. This is great!
Thanks for the interesting stuff!
Not surprised to hear this info. It’s what I expected.
I saw Metallica in Zagreb in 2010. I paid 60$ for the ticket. The prices for 2023 tour are simply too expensive for me.
I saw them in Moscow in 2010 and 2019. The price of a floor ticket there were $80 and $120/240 respectively, because in Worldwired they'd split the floor by a certain distance from the scene and a closer section worth twice as much. One could say "but it were different venues", yeah the second one had 15000 more seats (:
Could you even see the band at that price?
I love the idea of show downloads. Alice Cooper and Linkin Park have done that even for non vip in the past.
I just bought for Bad Omens in September and while I’m looking forward to it I’ll admit it was like 75% just for making my life easier and 25% meeting the band. I’m an old now so it’s a little weird having this kind of fan interaction with people technically young enough to be my kid…Lord knows I’d never wait outside after the show at this point in my life.
I'm so glad I grew up pre VIP package where meeting musicians was a more organic thing. In many cases like my first meeting with Metallica it was through mutual aquaintances. I happened to meet a girl who was dating Cliff at the time and we hung out for a bit after a show here in Vancouver. The second time with Metallica was a similar thing only this time we were friends with the guys in Metal Church and they were ipening fot Metallica so we all hung out after the show. A lot of bands would come to a club we frequented when they were in town. One night it was Iron Maiden. We all had a great night and they invited us tohang out after the show the following night. I had so many situations like this come up and it was better because the cicumstances weren't forced. Everyone was just hanging out and having a good time. I can't imagine paying for it but I get wht bands do it.
Yup, my roommate smokedup Fieldy with a few hits from his bat standing in the lobby in one of the Denver theaters. Can't remember which...saw them at at least 3 different ones.
All of the guys in the band were just milling around and being squirrely af.
No better shows that seeing bands when they are playing smaller theaters. Especially ones like KoRn.
@@ShastaBean for sure dude. Those small shows are where it's at.
it's a good thing I got to meet and talk to all 4 of them for free on live French TV a few years back
Lars needs more paintings, come on man!
😂😂😂
Every time John 5 (ironically on the left of the screen as I type this) comes to town I do the VIP package. Several times we've gotten to hang with him for more than just the M&G and I can honestly say he is always VERY excited for the M&G. He loves bullshitting with his fans. Got to hang at a Halloween show with his wife Rita and she's awesome.
I've literally seen the venue itself tell John he has to end his M&G because they need to open the doors.
He's one of the nicest people I've ever met in the biz.
Metallica on the other hand... #itshouldhavebeenlars
Yeah, there are definitely artists that enjoy it, which is why I was sure to say „most“ don’t. Haha
All the best band meet experiences I've had were when bands played small venues. AFI, In Flames, Macine Head and the Misfits were especially gracious as they would hang outside before the shows and after to chill with fans....ok, maybe not Doyle, but Jerry was amazing to me personally. Ticket prices obviously were a normal price back then in tne earllier 2000s. Miss those times.
Without question. Saw KoRn a few times at small Denver theaters in mid/late '90s and they'd all be milling around the lobby after the show. My roommate had some wicked chronic and Fieldy ripped 3 bat-fulls and it put him into a total state-of-confusion. Good fun!
I remember going to see Papa Roach at a smaller venue back in mid 2000's for like 25 bucks or about 18 quid here in the UK also Trivium prices have been great too in the smaller venues :D plus met Papa Roach and Trivium on both occasions by just hanging around for an hour or two after the end of the gig, cool to get plectrums from Jerry really cool guys those P.Roach lads :D
I bougth tickets in the presale for 120$ for upper level seats for the Friday show.
On the Thursday before the show, bought lower bowl tickets for 73$!!!
I think that when you’re in a bigger band, everything is bigger. Demand for quality of show, and demand on their time with other obligations related to the tour.
One of my favourite bands Disciple (Christian sometimes Southern hard rock) do a VIP meet and greet for $75 pp, where a group of fans meet the band for a hangout where the band plays an acoustic miniset, sometimes lets them listen to a new song, gives them a CD of their choice, and does the social media photo. Although one cannot easily deduce the quality from a fb post, it does look like they're having a blast, the band seems to care a lot, and most importantly it is affordable.
The Disciple dudes are good people. Did a tour with them years ago and they were always super nice.
Tank was great as a child actor in "The Sixth Sense".
Hell yeah.
Paid $50 to see Nightwish and stood front row center in a 2k capacity venue.
Paid $20 to see the warning play in a shoebox sized bar.
I’ve seen Metallica live about 20 times and all those previous shows combined don’t add up to the price of one of these vip experiences.
I did a meet and greet for Jinjer last year. The venue treated us like crap and everone working for the club seemed to have a disdain for the fans. Showed up at the appointed time and location only to wait outside across the steet in a parking lot in 40 degree weather with 20 mph winds for several hours. The band was friendly and I got my autographs eventually. I didn't expect much for $100 but I didn't expect to waste so much of my time freezing my butt off.
That's what people used to do outside of airports and hotels and restaurants and back doors of venues and anywhere they saw a parked bus, but they didn't pay to do it. Of course there wasn't a guarantee either.
That's why you find a festival they're at and buy a 1 day pass for the day they're there. Single day passes are usually around $100-150ish and bands like Metallica go to these. You'll get to see them, and up close if you get to the stage during change overs, plus get to see other bands and probably discover a great band you've never heard before. Festivals(good ones by Danny Wimmer, not Blue Ridge lol) are the best value in music imo. Going to see a band in a headlining tour is great, yes, but if you're on a budget, see them at a festival, you'll get them plus 30- 40 something other bands as well for around the same price.
Taproot to play at blue ridge in the background LOL
Years ago at 2 different shows (Tesla & KISS) they sold the live recording of that show at each venue. KISS was an mp3 on a flash drive that doubled as a bracelet. Tesla was abmn actual cd that you bought before the show started and they burned and packaged the cd that you picked up at the end of the show. They were the opening act so that have them a little time. Neither cost more than a cd you'd buy in the store. It's an awesome souvenir but not awesome enough that it should only be included in the most expensive vip.
@Nicegram-tank_the_tech my coffers are overflowing already. You text me and I'll send you a gift.
I was able to get a non-GA ticket last week thru the fan club presale for $308.60 for both nights and about halfway up the back of the venue.
My mom saw these guys back in the 80s in castle farm in michigan. I would love more then anything to take her again, however her current condition this is about the only way it would ever happen. Thanks for shedding some light on this
That’s crazy. My favorite band doesn’t do the vip thing, ticket sales are reasonable ( except for scalper resales ) but with that said my favorite did pull some fans they recognized back stage for a meet n greet no extra fee, just showing appreciation for loyal fans
I saw them play in a bar, and in a country club the following night on the Ride the Lightning tour, for about $10, so I'm good. Have fun spending the equivalent of a down payment on a house to see your precious idols, I'm sure they appreciate it.
I would love if more artists started offering the live audio of their sets. I don't think I would pay those kind of prices for it though.
I'm just here to appreciate this hoodie, HandOfBlood has got one of those as well.
Ohh, and in the past I repeatedly got stuck on Völkerball concerts, because I couldn't afford the OG Rammstein shows (or the tickets were gone far too soon to ever claim one). I really didn't mind it though.
I got to see Knotfest which included Wage War, In this Moment and Slipknot floor tickets for 100 Canadian dollars this past April in Saskatoon.
From my vip experience( I did 6 of them), the bands(not top level like metallica), have had similar experiences that normally costs alot, but for me I had to spend either $100 or $200. I got to me Gemini Syndrome in 2021 which had a meet and greet, group picture with the band, an acoustic experience, exclusive vip merchs, a free tshirt of our choosing at the merch, and a schecter guitar signed by the entirety of the band(that was about $200 with the guitar/$100 without the guitar). I got to meet Nonpoint back in 2019, and this was actually cheaper but still had good experience. Same acoustic experience but it was done inside their tour bus, in which we also got a glimpse of the inside, group picture, and vip exclusive merch($80 all together). I got to meet GFM and A Killer's Confession( singer is former member of mushroomhead) and it was $80 as well with same experience. This part however was where it was more than I'm used to spending. This year I got to Meet Fozzy and As I Lay Dying and they both had the exact experience. Meet and greet, soundchecks, Q&A with the band, group picture, exclusive vip merchs, signed tour posters, and vip laments. Its was about $200 for both of those experiences. So yeah from my experience it does feel like the bigger the band is, the higher the prices are for certain vip experiences. This is just from my perspective so I know everyone else's perspective could or is different than mine was.
I don’t get the mp3 download of the show on the vip packages. It really doesn’t mean anything since all shows from the last ten or so years have been for sale on Metallica’s online store for 10-20 dollars. And especially when on the last tour everyone who bought a ticket got the recording for free so it being presented as a premium feature now is ridiculous. Especially because it’s mp3. When paying hundreds of dollars for a single ticket you’d expect you’d get a better quality file like a wav. file instead of mp3.
Oh, didn’t even know that!
Mr tank the tech this is Karen from Santa Ana CA and a new subscriber of two months.
I discovered uour channel in my usual music feed and was impressed with the topics youve covered . excellent work and I look forward to your channel in this new year.
One question for you though. I tried googling this question and even asked other channels but no answer. Whatever happened to the old general admission concerts held in England yesrs dho called Castle Donington. Remember those in the nineties and late eighties.
My question is did the promoters rename it as the current Download festival and when dud this other festival called Wacken come into existence.
I would really appreciate an snswer in your spare time. Happy new Year and stay safe
The only VIP packages I buy is for festivals, to make life a bit easier (we're not getting any younger, ya know).
I did that several times when I attended the Metal Female Voices Fest in Belgium. The last time in 2016, it was 140 Euros for 2 1/2 days. The best part about it was access to a backstage area where you could sit down and which was also frequented by nearly all the musicians performing, thus if you were lucky, you could even sit down with them and have a conversation or just a picture taken.
Here in Mexico the VIP package of the most prestigious festival has free tacos on demand, actual bathrooms 8 beverages included, and also good sitting with actual chairs and sofas, is a good deal, mostly for the tacos
I saw Metallica in Ohio solo tour floor for $100 bucks in 2018.
Saw them back in 2002 summer sanitarium tour lower bowl for $65
100% agree Tank re: Gig ticket prices .. For my 50th Present from My wife was 2 Tickets to see Muse next year in Plymouth UK and they cost £700 with all fees etc .. If it wasn't a big birthday present I couldn't consider that kind of money .. Even though I love Muse .. Cheers for the Vid sir
I'm looking at driving to Edmonton from Winnipeg with a friend for the show in August 2024, probably just going to get a 1 day ticket as I'm not really into FFDP or Ice Nine Kills. Currently the 2 day tickets are about $330 CAD, hoping the single day ones will be under $200.
I got a meet and greet with Jay Weinberg including photos (taken from my phone) and personally signed signature drum sticks for $30 AUD ($19.95 USD) for their first Knotfest Australia show this year 👌 Metallica out here with 7k packages lmfao
The best meet and greets are at punk/metal shows where you just hang in the alley or out front before or after the show. I’ve met and hung with so many bands just grabbing beers around the show venue. Another easy way…start a band! Spent 15 years in a FL punk/ska band 2003-2018, and had to do the whole baby band business course. I miss the days of bands spray painting their logo on your shirt with a cardboard stencil.
Off topic but would love to see you react to Band-Maid again. The instrumental, "From Now On" is amazing!
I've only ever done one VIP experience and that was for Pixy, a pretty new and unknown group. GA tickets were 45€ and my VIP ticket was 135€, so triple the regular price. It included first entry into the venue, a very short meet&greet with all five members (basically just a high five) and a group photo. I mostly did it to get in earlier, the other perks were just neat bonuses.
The venue was absolutely tiny, max capacity of 450 people (though I struggle to see how you would even fit that many people in there), with a stage about 30 cm tall. If you were in the fourth row, you already couldn't see shit. So for that the VIP ticket was already worth it, just to get into the front row.
But 150€ is generally the most I'm willing to pay for a single concert ticket. And most VIP tickets I've seen are way above that.
They played the Spectrum parking lot once. That was freaking cool. Lol.
Pfff, in '99 i payed approx 60€ for 3 day festival with them as headliner. Got to the front 3 times by crowdsurfing and had a great time (even if it was during the "load & "re-load" day's). Now you almost have to pay a weeks earn and get kicked out of the venue for crowdsurfing 😢
I was able to be in on the initial Pre-Sale for former Metallica Club Members, now called Legacy Members. I purchased 3 tickets on the 40 yard line about 20 rows up from the floor at US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis (almost 2 year wait...ahhhhhh), and the final cost was almost $1500, so $500 per weekend for 3 people, or $250 per night. The last time I saw them was in 2009 and the tix were about $150 per seat then, so I think I got a good deal at $250 per seat, plus it will probably be the last time I see them. So, I bet that the same seats would go for at least $4500 for all 3 per weekend by the resellers 😡🤬
Thanks for a nice breakdown Tank, look forward to your reaction to Lux Aeterna 🤘
$250 for a show? I just cannot understand why anyone would pay $250 to see a band way, way, way past their prime
Great vid! I've been checking in on the conversation for awhile.
One thought I have, is maybe, depending on the wording of the contracts, bands could do a pre-show pre-sale of sorts.
People go to their website, place a merch order for their show date and receive a confirmation number when they pay. When they come to the show, they give their number at the band's merch booth and pick up their shirt.
Technically, the band didn't sell anything at the show and the money is collected, soooo they could, in theory not be obligated to pay the venue merch fees.
Any thoughts on this?
7k usd, for any band is insane.
Even if it were for 2 years, life priorities such as work always outweighs any artist.
I'm from Norway and bought tickets on fanclub presale for their show in Copenhagen. Paid 220 USD for the second best seated tickets. Personally I don't think it's too much for the experience I'm getting. Maybe that is biased by both being a fan and also being used to Norwegian prices which are generally pretty high 🤣
It's like getting box at any event.....I've done that before and it was great. Wasn't quite that much, but if you're a huge fan, it might be worth it
Well I'm working as a chef and don't want personal contact with guests too. (Even if they just ask to cheer our team) So I think I understand the struggle with VIP Fans :D
The nosebleeds sold out first at our venue. That's where we're sitting. $172 each is already pretty expensive for tickets.
I know I'm 6 months late but still wanted to comment on this video. I went to the very first show of this tour in Amsterdam. Now I got lucky and had to pay nowhere near the price of the regular tickets (which was around 100 Euros / 110 US dollars). The overall experience was... mid. There were quite a few sloppy mistakes from the band and crew. The sound quality was very bad, but this was mostly the fault of the venue, and if you've been there before or know the reputation of the venue, you will know this before you buy tickets so I'll just name it but won't judge on it. What I will judge on however is the huge differences in volume mid-song where the volume should be steady, for example in the middle of a verse or chorus. Lights were turning on very late when they started a song and also were turning off very late after a song ended. The band was also starting different sections of the song at the same time and that caused a lot of confusion in both fans and the band. It really looked like rehearsal for both band and crew didn't happen at all or at least not nearly enough. All that aside, I had never seen Metallica live before and now had the chance to get front row seats in the sitting area and a bus ride to and from the venue for only 25 euros / 27 dollars (it was only a 20 minute bike ride to where the bus would be leaving to the venue). They played more old songs than new songs which was nice because I don't really like the new album all that much, and they even played some of my favourites. Do I think it was worth it to see a world famous band for only 25 euros when ticket prices are super high? Hell yeah it felt kinda like a vip experience because it was so cheap! Do I think, after having seen the show, that I would've payed the original 100+ euros? Hell no. The mistakes, even though they weren't non-stop, were too noticeable and there were too many for a top-tier level band that can hire a top-tier level crew. But at least I can say I saw Metallica live in 2023 for only 25 bucks. My quick opinion on the vip packages: if the overall show quality did get better further along in the tour I think the vip packages aren't too crazy in price, looking at the details.
I was VIP for Tool and Primus this last year. 300 a ticket for Tool got 3rd row seats and a merch package with a jacket in the mail several months later. 175 a tic for Primus we got a meet n greet Q&A with the band and signed poster.
My first big concert was Metallica in Belgrade at Partizan Stadium in 2004. Tickets were 45 euros. The interesting part is that when we got to the stadium a few hours earlier, a group of workers with credentials appeared and they were handing out "pink wristbands, the ones that when you attach them you need scissors to take them off" but they didn't say anything about what it was about. A lot of people refused to take them. Me and a couple of friends took it. After an hour, when no more of those workers were there, it was rumored that whoever has that pink wristband has access to the fenced area in front of the stage where there will be only 2,000 people with wristbands. I can't describe it to you, suddenly everyone is looking for and wants to find those bracelets, but no one was giving them out anymore, nor were there any :). We enter the stadium, all sold out as far as I remember 45 or 50k tickets and as we enter from the top we see down by the stage a really specially fenced area with security, literally in front of the stage, we go there, the security just looks at your hand to see if you have a wristband and lets you enter. I can't describe the feeling when I stood in the middle in front of the stage, a few meters from me the microphone where James Hetfield will stand, I just couldn't believe it was happening to me. A concert and moments that I will remember as long as I live. Of course, we didn't have the option to meet them in person, but they dropped a bunch of unique picks, I caught three, but that's less important to me, as the part that I was literally in front of them. Well, maybe this will be interesting for someone, so if you compare it with the present time, it means that you didn't have to pay extra for that space, but they just distributed those bracelets to random people without even saying what it was about (probably so that everyone wouldn't jump on those workers to steal all their bracelets :D) ... That's my experience with the first big concert.
I got a snake pit ticket for two Metallica shows in Finland from The fan club presale it was 750€ a dream come true for me and I am only 18 (to be fair I had to use my savings for it) I think it will Be worth it.🤘🖤
My personal limit for a single show, be it a tour package or just one long show, is 50 €. Prefereably > 30 €.
so you don't go to concerts anymore? ;)
@@bonestorm2006 I went to 4 concerts this year. Maybe a fifth soon, maybe not.
fun fact, Metallica has been doing the MP3 thing for free for years, back to at least 2010 when I saw them. Kinda funny they're putting it on a meet & greet package like its something special.
I stick to bands at Polyphia's level. Very affordable all the way around. There's really not any big bands I haven't seen. I'm in my 40's. So I've seen all the big ones. Many farewell tours and such.
Hi 👋 Tank it’s been awhile
I wouldn't pay this much for a VIP experience, but I also get it. It's Metallica. The tickets are going to be in crazy high demand. That's what drives prices. And honestly, some of the packages give you a lot more than I'd expect from a VIP package based on the ones I've been to in the past. I didn't end up doing one though. Still paid over $400 for general admission on the floor, which was enough for me for one ticket. lol
It's also kinda crazy to me buying my ticket 2 years in advance. My show isn't until Aug 2024.
Damnnn 2024?? Where is your show? Mine is august 11-13 Montreal Canada and 8 months away is crazy to buy tix 😅 but I did anyways
I'm going to the Foxboro shows are Gillette Stadium.
I couldn't get 13 other people to go in with that. The only person I could think of would go is my brother, but we sure aren't splitting $7200, and we're just general Metallica fans.
My girl and I got tickets for the MetLife stadium, NJ show(s) in August. Citi presale and we’re in the upper bout 300 seats and it cost us $370 all in. Tickets and fees for both shows. While the seats aren’t amazing, it’s pretty digestible for Pantera, Mammoth (the 2 openers I REALLY wanna see), 5FDP, Ice 9 and 2 full Metallica sets. However I know it’s not going to be doable for all. And while the 2 show idea is cool, it does handcuff a lot of fans who aren’t willing to spend like that.
My best meet and greets are 2nd tier bands like Killswitch Engage. Very nice, hung out w them side stage and drank beer right before show!
Got a general admission ticket for ~ €260. Not really cheap, but an ok price for 2 shows and 4 opening acts.
Back in 1988 on the justice tour, we got backstage passes just by asking for them...The guy I was with wrote a note addressed to James with a story, asking for passes and gave it to a roadie. I doubt it ever really got to James, but roadie came back with two passes. Just cloth stickers you stuck to your shirt. Got to meet and hang out with the band and got their autographs....on paper I dug out of the trash.
I went to one VIP package to get a picture taken with a Hollywood movie star after a viewing of his movie. It was ok. The star was enjoying the fans but my complaint was the excessive amount of fans and the long lines for pic which took a lot of time. My friend had a long ride which I felt bad about as we waited for an 1 and 1/2 hour pic. I wouldn't do it again. It was cool to do once.
I have never done a VIP and prob
Never will. I don’t personally see any reason to for me. The live experience is what I want. I did meet Daniel and David from Electric Callboy by coincidence at the back of the venue the other week and they were cool. Just wanted to know what time they were on and also if they were playing Download haha. But some of these packages are insane. Crazy money in my eyes. Fair play if i hit the lotto and become rich maybe.
I did a meet and greet with August burns red a few years ago and they were super nice. The drummer stayed back and hung out with a few us fans. I got to talk to him for a few mins. If they didn't want to meet the fans, I couldn't tell.