1981 Chevy Camaro - Is There A Holy Grail Engine In This Camaro??? - Z28??? - UNR 192

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  • @CarGuyV8
    @CarGuyV8 6 месяцев назад +17

    A big block 4 speed 2nd gen Camaro. That’s a dream car right there. Good video.

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks for watchin'. I appreciate it. Be sure to tell your friends about the channel.

    • @dinadaughtry8993
      @dinadaughtry8993 6 месяцев назад +1

      Like to have it to trade for a nice second gen Charger, a 69 with a big block and 4 speed with the Sure grip rear end but would settle for any late 60s or early 70s big block Charger

  • @ProTruck87
    @ProTruck87 6 месяцев назад +72

    I know that car. That engine used to be in my moms 71 Chevelle. It is an LS7 454. From what I remember an LS6 cam was put in it. Balanced and blue printed. Triple valve springs. All port matched. Carb is a 1150 dominator. Never got to experience the full potential of it but got to hear is sing to 8000. Most beautiful noise I ever heard as a kid. I wonder what happened to this car. Sat parked on a trailer for a long time.

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +10

      All I know about it is that the guy who owned it for many years passed away and his family sold the car to the guy that brought it to us to see if it would run and drive. He has since sold it to someone in Austin, TX and they are going to restore it. Thanks for watchin'.

    • @richardsmith-qy6vl
      @richardsmith-qy6vl 6 месяцев назад +9

      If that is a Ls7 they had to change the camshaft in it because those cams had a bunch of duration you would have heard that as soon as it started they also had 12 to 1 compression so it wouldn't run on today's pump gas but you could run it on e85 with a carburetor set up for e85 you cannot truly tell what a engine is without taking it apart I have a big block that is a 427 bored 0.60 over so it's a 439 but all the inturnles are in a 454 block because the block was broke many years ago so if that is a true LS7 they tammed it down alot and that would explain why there is no Vin stamped on the front pad they were over the counter engines and never put in and car or truck from the factory that is a rare find would love to own it.

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watchin'.

    • @jarvislarson6864
      @jarvislarson6864 6 месяцев назад +4

      Ls7 was only in 1970 models and more rare than the rare ls6...

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watchin".

  • @79tazman
    @79tazman 6 месяцев назад +11

    I use to own a Last of the second gen T/A it came with a chevy 305 from factory but when I got it I put a Pontiac 455 in it with a borg warner super T 10 4 spd and then bought a new GM Crate small block 383 and had a M21 4 spd trans and I swapped the factory 3.08 posi with a 3.73 posi and that car was lot's of fun and got me into lot's of trouble.

  • @adamscott9725
    @adamscott9725 5 месяцев назад +6

    If memory serves the bottom bolt at the mechanical fuel pump, is longer and can be switched with the top bolt to hold the pump rod. Then switched back after the pump is installed.

  • @6426yy
    @6426yy 6 месяцев назад +4

    Dominator, Subframe connectors, scatter shield, ladder bars, driveshaft loop and stock exhaust manifolds......cool project.

    • @arkhsm
      @arkhsm 6 месяцев назад +2

      All the intake side goodies, and cast iron exhaust....not cool !!

  • @j.m.8290
    @j.m.8290 6 месяцев назад +19

    Im glad i don't let other people fix my stuff... I hope this guy learns a bit more ..

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watchin'. I appreciate the mean comments. LOL.

    • @ofivenojoe
      @ofivenojoe 6 месяцев назад +2

      Second that, esp by passing the msd and external coil, it's so sad

    • @kevinrice7635
      @kevinrice7635 6 месяцев назад

      That's the only way 🎉

    • @j.m.8290
      @j.m.8290 6 месяцев назад +1

      @up-n-runnin377 sorry you feel my comment is mean, it's just real, you have the right ideas you just really should do more research before doing something you don't know, I'm not hating by any means.. too many times people follow these videos and mess up their own stuff and if the people they watched did more correctly they would also do more correctly...

    • @TheresaMckay
      @TheresaMckay 5 месяцев назад +1

      Ya no shit needs to learn how a chevy runs

  • @kevin_ninja_jones2363
    @kevin_ninja_jones2363 6 месяцев назад +6

    My brother his dad has a bad ass 69 Plymouth GTX with a 440 and a 4 speed in it he bought in 70 we have been trying to talk him into letting us restore it for 25 years it needs a ground up restoration but it still runs like a champ original motor and trans

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +1

      I love a good GTX. Thanks for watchin'.

  • @albertvenable4122
    @albertvenable4122 6 месяцев назад +24

    Didn't take long to realize you're not a hot rodder lol enjoyed the content

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah, you're right. I tend to me more of a purist. I can appreciate a good hot rod though. Thanks for watchin'. Be sure to tell your friends about the channel.

    • @damianlindsey6177
      @damianlindsey6177 6 месяцев назад +4

      Stock sucks. Its why so many are modified. Even the king hemi cars from Dodge and Plymouth sucked stock.

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watchin'. I appreciate it.

    • @damianlindsey6177
      @damianlindsey6177 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@up-n-runnin377 no problem. Just because thats my opinion on cars doesnt mean at all that there isn't room for us all in the community

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +3

      I have always believed that there is room for everyone as well. I've seen some super cool hot rods, rat rods and bone stock 4 door sedans. I don't bash anyone's car. I'm just glad the cars still exists!!!

  • @raylegg1728
    @raylegg1728 6 месяцев назад +3

    Great video guys, really this is what youtubing should be all about, having fun with what you got. And learning from one's experiences and commentators. Keep them coming.

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +1

      I appreciate the kinds words. Thanks for watchin'.

  • @baby-sharkgto4902
    @baby-sharkgto4902 6 месяцев назад +33

    I was dumbfounded that he didn’t say “sparkulators” or “whirlymcbobber” etc, then I realized I was not watching a VGG video

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +2

      LOL. Thanks for watchin'. I appreciate it. Be sure to subscribe if you haven't already.

    • @stevenbelue5496
      @stevenbelue5496 6 месяцев назад +3

      Lightningmakeithappener

    • @jerrywilliams8733
      @jerrywilliams8733 6 месяцев назад +6

      I quit watching his videos because that crap annoyed me so much. Its only funny a few times, then it gets stale quick.

    • @paulvarrieur976
      @paulvarrieur976 6 месяцев назад +6

      @@jerrywilliams8733 I totally agree. It was funny once. VGG became irritating. His videos are also edited poorly and are way too long.

    • @RedEyedPatriot
      @RedEyedPatriot 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@paulvarrieur976 Pole Barn Garage and Puddin's Fab Shop are much much better in my opinion. But VGG is great too. Hes went a little too "discovery" for me also. But he's gettin paid well.

  • @HighRevNation
    @HighRevNation 5 месяцев назад

    These second generation camaros are quickly gaining popularity. They are still relatively affordable (especially compared to 1 gens) and they still are very much considered a "muscle car"... or can be when your dropping in a motor like that! Really looking forward to seeing what ya'll do with this!

  • @pierredecine1936
    @pierredecine1936 6 месяцев назад +9

    Pumping the throttle does NOTHING when there isn't fuel in the Float Bowl - DORK !

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +3

      Thanks for the negative comment. I appreciate it. However, off camera, I filled the fuel bowls.

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo 3 месяца назад

      Something about a man calling names from behind a keyboard rubs me the wrong way

  • @GMCTIM
    @GMCTIM 6 месяцев назад +1

    Reminds me of H/S Days, my friend had a blue one minus the TV tops ! Loved that car ! 😁✌

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      I understand. A few kids in my school had them as well. Thanks for watchin'.

  • @600wheel
    @600wheel 6 месяцев назад +6

    That car is set up to run the MSD box and coil that other distributor was set up to work with it and it is a far better system than the stock HEI. If it’s a 6AL the L stands for limiter so you will have an adjustable rev limiter

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watchin'. I appreciate it.

  • @rodneyf.9595
    @rodneyf.9595 6 месяцев назад +2

    They were using the old distributor as just a msd trigger for the ignition system simple set up . The msd system is so much better than the hei system great find I been searching for a car like this for awhile , I had a 79 years ago loved it I drive a 64 Chevy II now thanks for the video. 👍💯✌️

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +1

      I've got some 1964 Chevy II video coming up soon. Thanks for watchin'.

    • @rodneyf.9595
      @rodneyf.9595 6 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds good I been a tech for many years and still love the cars and trucks .
      Thank you 👍

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      I still do as well. However, we have a saying at the shop..."I hate cars". LOL

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo 3 месяца назад +1

      MSD....better til the box fails they all will

    • @rodneyf.9595
      @rodneyf.9595 3 месяца назад

      @@gordocarbo yep 👍

  • @allstylinone5122
    @allstylinone5122 6 месяцев назад +1

    Brake cover rubber is supposed to be on the cover, Replace it and top it off. Chances are you'll be replacing wheel cylinders. At the very least, be sure to feel all the brake lines for rust & dry rot (brittle)

  • @davevangemert9853
    @davevangemert9853 6 месяцев назад +1

    I loved the cars, had 2, but never felt compelled to make a 150 horsepower clone camaro!

  • @joshT1118
    @joshT1118 6 месяцев назад +1

    My favorite year of the camaro, my brother had a friend that had one in high school. Sadly, I passed up a chance to buy it off him later in life. I still regret it to this day 😢

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      I hate it when that happens. I've had a few of those situations as well. Thanks for watchin'.

  • @jamesmcmechan888
    @jamesmcmechan888 5 месяцев назад +1

    VIN Engine code is "H" for a 305 which was standard for the Z28 in all states except Cali and optional for all others including Cali Z28s. Was built in Van Nuys.

  • @downshiftingisfun7046
    @downshiftingisfun7046 6 месяцев назад +1

    That is awesome! My dad has an 80 model Z/28 and he has owned a crap ton of Camaros over the years mostly second gens and third gens. I saw where you pointed out that the car has been unregistered since ‘03 but there’s evidence that the car has been tinkered on at some point in time after that year. That Spectra air filter wasn’t available until the mid to semi late 2000’s (other brand of course already had their own versions), but that specific Spectra full open element filter came out in the mid 2000’s. Definitely a very solid looking Camaro. The brake master cylinder came out of a third gen Camaro or a 88-98 Chevy pick up truck. That car would have originally had a cast iron brake master cylinder so someone has upgraded the master cylinder. It’s good that it has the support rods in the front corners of the engine bay those are very hard to find nowadays. What a cool find! Keep making videos like these! Love it!

    • @downshiftingisfun7046
      @downshiftingisfun7046 6 месяцев назад

      Also one more tidbit, on real Z/28’s it should have black trim surrounding the rear windshield instead of chrome if memory serves correctly

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you liked it. I had fun making it. Thanks for watchin'. Be sure to tell your friends about the channel!!!.

  • @MyronBuss
    @MyronBuss 6 месяцев назад +5

    This kind of reminds me of a Z28 I saw at a car show years ago.. A guy pulls in and parks a pretty nice 79 Z28. He gets out and opens the hood. There sat a Ford 292 Y block truck motor, complete with the stock 2 bbl and the exhaust crossover pipe over the front top of the engine. Inside the car, the floor was cut out for the stock granny low 4 speed-the transmission was mostly exposed. I stood back and listened for comments. You should have heard the Chevy guys CRY! I thought it was so funny!

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      That would have been very interesting to see. Thanks for watchin'.

    • @jimsix9929
      @jimsix9929 6 месяцев назад

      yes it is usually the other way, fords with chevy engines

    • @Ross-ql9fi
      @Ross-ql9fi 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@jimsix9929b funny to see a Ford powered by Chevy. It wouldn't last long or go far

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo 3 месяца назад

      Wow!! Now that is funny.
      Friend of mine has a 62 vette he built for his wife. All completely stock outside..has valve covers taht have Ford Stamped on it
      Pisses off the purist guys at every cruise night. 327 looked bone stock except for headers. Had extensively ported 2.02 camel humps and careful block work to fit the 383 rotating assy. Very quiet, nice, barely noticable idle. Ran low 12s later went 11.9 with afr 195s

  • @jamesdamron2065
    @jamesdamron2065 6 месяцев назад +5

    Bud. You got a dominator on that engine,,gonna need more than a Tspoon of fuel!!😂😂😂😂

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watchin'. I appreciate it.

  • @R3S2Studios
    @R3S2Studios 6 месяцев назад +2

    When hooking up an msd box you have to remove the ignition module and resistor inside the cap

  • @lylejohnston4125
    @lylejohnston4125 6 месяцев назад +2

    Good luck on the "mouse stuff"! I sold my '69 SS el Camino to my friend and he willed it to my daughter when he passed. It hadn't been started in 23 years and 15 of them were in a barn surrounded by black berries. Mice thought the exhaust pipes and Hookers were a hotel. One of the cylinders stopped with the valves both open due to the overlap. I did everything right: new oil & filter, primed the hell out of it, removed the plugs and put three good squirts of oil in all the cylinders, and then cranked it with the distributor in so everything was oiled! Put the plugs in and fresh clear premium and it fired right up, ran maybe 5 seconds and died. It did this about 5 times. The last time, I heard a little "klink" when it stopped and it wouldn't turn anymore. It was nothing major as long as major isn't the #5 exhaust valve corroded down to 1 13/16" dia. and broke off it took out a 1 1/2" x 4" piece out of the side of the cylinder. The good news? The original block was gone before I bought it back in 1991. Found a great deal on a '72 402 short block so, it's alive again! BTW, Ive got an LS6 with the same block. It was cast in march '72 but, the numbers on the front say it's a '70 LS6 with a th400.

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +1

      The worst one I ran into was my 1969 Super Bee. It sat in a barn for 26 years and the mice and rats ate everything. They filled the rear quarters with cactus and the trunk was about 8"-10" deep with stuff. The seats were literally full of stuff. Had to wear a respirator to be able to enter it. Thank for watchin'.

  • @shadvan9494
    @shadvan9494 6 месяцев назад +5

    it is most likely a Z28. the P in the 5th digit of the vin is for both Sport Coupes and Z28. the H in the 8th digit is for the 305, which is the LG4/Z28 engine. the 10 digit is B for 1981, in 81 the Z28 only had the 305 available with the 4speed and the 350 LM1 with the automatic. from the vin number it looks like it was built in early May of 1981 at the Van Nuys assembly plant in LA. the first car built in may was 16093 and the last car built in May was 178115. so most likely the first week in May. they made about 3756 Camaros a week at the LA plant. so defiantly first week of May. also i can tell form the floorboard of the car, that it is an original factory 4 speed T-top car. very nice find. these fenders look original to the car, so i suspect its an original Z28. on LA built cars there is no markings to tell if it is a real z28. only way to tell 100% is the build sheet. the good news is the LA cars were used as rolling trash bins as they were assembled and usually had built sheet stuffed all over in them. usually under the front seats, under the carpet, and on top of the gas tank. my 1971 SS 396 4 speed car had 2, one on top of the gas tank, and one stuff up under the dash in the wiring behind the glove box. from the trim tag, it had blue custom cloth interior, vode 26C and 21L and 21U are the paint codes for Light Blue. so looking at the paint in the trunk and the paint on the inside of the engine compartment, i am pretty confident that this is an actual Z28 4 speed top car.

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      Lots of good info. Thanks for watchin'.

    • @indicasativa8542
      @indicasativa8542 5 месяцев назад

      As an owner of an original 81 Z28, I completely agree with you 👍

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo 3 месяца назад

      @@up-n-runnin377 Good on selling it. Car needed way more spent on it than you could say its worth

  • @southtexas4777
    @southtexas4777 6 месяцев назад +18

    Everybody has a ls7, sounds like a low compression motorhome 454

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watchin'. I appreciate it.

    • @freshbutplain1144
      @freshbutplain1144 6 месяцев назад +3

      Better than the 366 😬

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watchin'. I appreciate it.

    • @rodneyf.9595
      @rodneyf.9595 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yep I agree 👍

    • @-donkey_696_
      @-donkey_696_ 6 месяцев назад +2

      Think there more ls7 bbc out now then Chevy ever built ,just like corvette engines

  • @angel_dawn_morningstar
    @angel_dawn_morningstar 6 месяцев назад +2

    Omggggggg ! 😯
    That B-W Super T10 is TOAST !
    What a shame ..
    😇❤

  • @BrianGoldsworthy-x7g
    @BrianGoldsworthy-x7g 6 месяцев назад +6

    Strange that someone would install an LS7 and use exhaust manifolds. This car would be worth the time to cosmetically restore it and add a new 5 or 6 speed

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +2

      The cool thing is that the car got sold and is now in Austin, TX being restored. Thanks for watchin'. Be sure to tell your friends about the channel.

  • @johnelliott7375
    @johnelliott7375 6 месяцев назад

    Good start to the video 📸

  • @That70sChannel
    @That70sChannel 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nice. Subscribed!

  • @tommyChevelle
    @tommyChevelle 6 месяцев назад +4

    I got a LS7-454 XCH in my 70 Chevelle SS
    Bought it a couple years back in its original Crate
    That engine only runs on Race fuel
    Came with 990 rectangle port heads
    1.88 2.19 valves open chambers
    5140 Forged Crank
    4340 forged connecting rods 7/16 bolts
    9180 cam (Same as ZL-1)
    Forged high dome pistons
    They crank to 7800 RPM
    My Ls7 runs a 1050 dominator
    MSD 6AL-2 ignition
    Holley electric fuel pump
    110 octane
    High rise air gap 454-R intake
    They put out over 600hp

    • @tommyChevelle
      @tommyChevelle 6 месяцев назад +1

      Also above the timing cover if it’s a LS7 it will Say LS7 on the suffix pad

    • @tommyChevelle
      @tommyChevelle 6 месяцев назад +1

      Also it’s a solid lifter

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds like a great engine. Thanks for watchin'.

    • @edmelungeon2239
      @edmelungeon2239 6 месяцев назад +2

      B.S.

    • @-donkey_696_
      @-donkey_696_ 6 месяцев назад +2

      I'm thinking it's only revenge to 7800 rpm 1 time ,call bs on that rpm

  • @adamb3210
    @adamb3210 6 месяцев назад +1

    Had an 81 Z-28, cool car, but couldn't pass California Smog, as it was an Arkansas vehicle.

  • @gol2163
    @gol2163 5 месяцев назад +1

    Do you know if the owner would consider selling? Dream car of mine. Sweet video. Thanks

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watchin'. This car was sold about the time the video came out. Sorry.

  • @alvarsdzenis4739
    @alvarsdzenis4739 6 месяцев назад

    I own an '81 Z28 D5A 350 block 4 speed t--top PW car, with 34,000km or 22,000m on it. It's a "Canadian Special" one of 3025 that were made for Canada only! The only way you could get a z28 with a 4 speed was with a 305. All 350's had an automatic in the US in a z28. (emission laws) in the US.

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo 3 месяца назад

      Found a late 80s Iroc less than 1 yr old. Ordered from Hawaii. That had a 350 and T5 only one like it ive seen to this day
      had the G92 rear axle to it roasted 1-2 with no problem.

  • @paulventh7034
    @paulventh7034 6 месяцев назад +1

    Well I injoyed the video I thought it very good

  • @72chevelle156
    @72chevelle156 6 месяцев назад +2

    Oh No he's putting power to the distributor and he has a msd. I'm sure there is no module. but, learning curve.

    • @sporty196071
      @sporty196071 5 месяцев назад

      Same thing I was thinking

  • @79tazman
    @79tazman 6 месяцев назад +4

    The big block is a ton of weight for that car the torque that it gives is nice but they handle like crap with a big block in them since the ass end is so light in them cars need some at least aluminum heads on that thing to lighten the front end up or a go with a nice small block or LS because the lighter you can make the front ends of them cars the better unless you want to have no control of the ass end and with a posi it would make you spin right out really easy.

    • @JosephThomas-t3n
      @JosephThomas-t3n 6 месяцев назад

      I can vouch for handling like crap , my first car was a 79 berlinetta with a mild mods . At 21 years old it couldn't stop itself at 100 mph and run a stop sign. Made the right turn and and only took a wooden stake to passenger door after the ditch on the wrong side of the road . Was 16 and got into a fight with step dad and had shotgun shoved in my face just before getting in the car

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo 3 месяца назад

      Cant go to a small block of either gen after having a BB. Doesnt affect handling that bad

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo 3 месяца назад

      @@JosephThomas-t3n THose cars drove real nice, stopped too when they were new

  • @truckladders4104
    @truckladders4104 6 месяцев назад +3

    This clown is painful to watch. He gets to to kick with little fuel then immediately rotates the distributor No surprise it didnt light That Dominator has primary and secondary 50cc accelerator pumps I was waiting for it to light his face. This is great video showing what not to do

    • @mikewicken9098
      @mikewicken9098 5 месяцев назад

      I was forcing myself to finish this video. Damn, it won't start on a tsp of fuel, kept throwing the timing around... Call Derick.

  • @jefferyholcombe5189
    @jefferyholcombe5189 6 месяцев назад +3

    The only motor in the camaro that is a holy grail is the 302DZ motor that is I believe a 327 block with a 289 crank and this makes a very short stroke rev happy motor that was specifically designed for nascar to meet the motor size regulations to race! It has been said to me that they make anywhere from 450-550HP from the factory and would very easily rev to 8000RPM out of the box!

    • @karlhargrave8513
      @karlhargrave8513 5 месяцев назад

      My buddy in high school had a white w black stripes 68 rs/ss had the 302dz dual gate shifter was fun to ride in

    • @sporty196071
      @sporty196071 5 месяцев назад +2

      They used a 283 crank, it was made for Trans-Am racing . They were limited to 305 ci. I was getting 9800 rpm in my 69 Z/28 my biggest regret selling it.

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo 3 месяца назад +1

      Made roughly 330 out of the showroom. Traco had them around 480 for tracks .

    • @texastyrannyresponseteam794
      @texastyrannyresponseteam794 2 месяца назад

      the DZ302 was made for T/A racing... not NASCAR.. back when the DZ302 was in the 1st gen Camaros... NASCAR was running big blocks limited to 429cid.. and chevy was running chevelle variants, Malibus, Lagunas and monte carlos.. not Camaros.. in 1972 NASCAR limited the displacement to 358cid.. other GM cars running NASCAR were Buick Regals and Centurys.. Pontiac Grand Ams.. Olds Cutlasses and 442s..

  • @ChoneyNation
    @ChoneyNation 6 месяцев назад +3

    Looks like a solid candidate for a resto-mod

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +2

      That's exactly what's happening to it. I talked with the new owners and that's what they are going to do. Thanks for watchin'.

  • @joefergerson5243
    @joefergerson5243 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great video👍🏼

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      Thank for watchin'. I appreciate it.

  • @kurtisstutzman7056
    @kurtisstutzman7056 6 месяцев назад +1

    No mention the added frame rails...?! That was an old school 80-90s drag Camaro...! Judging by the valve covers, early 90s...! I have an 81 set up very similarly with a 468cid/ th400... Also, a 79 Z28 clone, but has a 454cid/th400 with OD and a 71 SS 350cid/ 4-speed corner carver with all factory drive train, but has all modern/ QA1 suspension front and rear... 2nd generation Camaros are the best...!!!

  • @nicksnarski5973
    @nicksnarski5973 6 месяцев назад +2

    FYI the fuel pump pushrod trick only applies to the small block.

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      I didn't know that. I guess I never tried it on a big block. Thanks for watchin'.

  • @Energikar
    @Energikar 6 месяцев назад

    Seeing that Dominator carb on the top would make me think that is a killer motor. Alot of work has been done to it.. It's a big breather..

    • @-donkey_696_
      @-donkey_696_ 6 месяцев назад

      Alot of people over carburate engines ,I had a mildly built bbc roller motor 10.5 to 1 4.30 rear gear with a 750 cfm on it ,best past was with a 650 double pumper on it ,12.20 street tires and slapper bars in 36 Ford rat rod p/u

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo 3 месяца назад

      @@-donkey_696_ Same here. 350 I had yrs ago with a 650dp was night and day better than 2 different brand new 750s on it.
      Went from accelerating hard to smoking the tires bad.

  • @mikel5571
    @mikel5571 5 месяцев назад

    Very funny. I’m no expert but hat looks like a problem”. I had one back in the 80’s , damn, I wish I still had it, fun car and made a lot of friends of the opposite sex

  • @garysgarage.2841
    @garysgarage.2841 6 месяцев назад +1

    I had a bunch of these cars all 80 z28s. It's real easy just look at the data plate under the hood if it's a z28 it'll literally say z28 on the plate. Also if it's a 4 speed car they all came with a 305 all the automatic cars came with a 350.

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watchin'. I appreciate it. Be sure to tell your friends about the channel. I always thought those cars were good lookin' cars. Very slow, but good lookin'.

  • @allstylinone5122
    @allstylinone5122 6 месяцев назад +1

    Patchwork camaro

  • @Jeff-io2zn
    @Jeff-io2zn 6 месяцев назад +3

    It needs to be completely disassembled and fix it right .

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      I agree. Thanks for watchin'. Be sure to tell your friends about the channel.

  • @robertshatto2995
    @robertshatto2995 6 месяцев назад +2

    My 79 camaro,,has Z28 right in Vin,,,

  • @79tazman
    @79tazman 6 месяцев назад

    There are two connections on the Distributor there is the distributor to cap plug and then the main 12 volt feed and the other is a connection for a RPM Tach. you got to have the dist to cap connection on and the 12 volt feed wire connected

  • @ojmcbaggins
    @ojmcbaggins 6 месяцев назад

    My friend had an 81 z28 that we restored. Sad day when he sold it

  • @jimirox1928
    @jimirox1928 5 месяцев назад

    Forget my previous comments except for the transmission.
    Scatter Shield + Ladder bars + drive shaft loop spells DRAG CAR!

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo 3 месяца назад

      Not always. I put a loop and scattershield on all my st cars.

  • @shadvan9494
    @shadvan9494 6 месяцев назад +5

    it looks like someone took that car drag racing, the ladder bars would have been needed for traction control with that LS7. also cars running in the 11.99 and fast would have required a Scatter shield bell housing (that looks like an old Lakewood unit), and a drive shaft safety loop. the carb looks like a Holley Dominator. also looks like it may have had factory AC. the oil cooler bypass in not a 100% that its a 4 bolt. but most 4 bolt blocks do have the oil bypass fittings, on 1970-72 big block Camaro's, there is a 45-degree fitting that moves the pursue unit out of the way of the clutch cross bar. that trans looks like a Muncie. I hate to see them that broken up, I love old 4 speed cars.

    • @jeffbarkley3915
      @jeffbarkley3915 6 месяцев назад

      Pretty sure an LS7 is a small block Corvette engine introduced in 2008

    • @shadvan9494
      @shadvan9494 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@jeffbarkley3915 the original LS series engines were Mark IV Big Block Chevys. LS-1 was a 427, introduced in 1969 that made 335HP, the LS-5, 6 and 7 were introduced in October of 1970. the LS-5 was a 454 making 365HP passenger cars and 390hp in the Vette, the LS-6 454 is infamous for its 450HP. The LS-7 was intended to replace the L88 and ZL1 engines for secret factory backed racing clients, just like the L88 and ZL1 427s, however GM lifted the ban on racing, so they were never installed in production cars, however production of the engine had already started, GM decided to offer these engines as over the counter crate engines. in both short block and long block form. they were extremely popular and GM continued production of them in to the late 80s. the LS-4 was introduced in 73 and made 275 net HP as compared to the prior engines that were rate in Gross HP. the LS4 gross HP would be around 325HP. the LS4 is the most common 454 as it was also used in both light and heavy duty trucks, motor homes, and marine applications. variants of it were used until the introduction of the Gen V big block in 1991. when the L19 454 replaced it. during that time both LS6 and LS7 engine were available over the counter from GM of high-performance application, and a warranty replacement. in fact they also offered L88 and ZL1 CanAm blocks and heads as replacement until the mid 70s until supplies ran out, but they kept production of the LS6 and LS7 engines going in to the late 80s. I personally owned a 1976 Hondo drag boat with a LS7 in it. it was really fast, but it dropped a valve and I replace it with an L88. the L88 was much more powerful and revved higher than the LS7. GM resurrected the LS RPO codes for the gen 3 small blocks in 1997. but to be honest the only thing the LS series engine share with the small block chevy is the 4.4 inch bore spacing. and there is no parts interchangeability between gen 1 or gen 2 small blocks. hope this clarifies things for you.

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      You are referring to the new LS7's, not the old LS7's. Check out the XCH suffix code on line and you will see Chevy made more thank on LS7. Thanks for watchin'.

  • @marknowakowski6590
    @marknowakowski6590 6 месяцев назад +5

    Looks like boa and Luke got a hold of this here travesty before they moved up to MOPAR.

  • @StormRider9x
    @StormRider9x 5 месяцев назад

    I DID THAT TO A TRANSMISSION IN MY 59 EL CAMINO RACING A 68 RR 383, BACK IN 71

  • @danielsteward5090
    @danielsteward5090 5 месяцев назад

    That is a 454 assembled in Tonawanda, New York. Possibly an LS6.

  • @jaimemartinez8121
    @jaimemartinez8121 6 месяцев назад +3

    Msd box is going to be your new ignition system hei unit now has external components now

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watchin'. Be sure to tell your friends about the channel.

  • @RustyEast
    @RustyEast 5 месяцев назад +2

    I'm getting aggravated watching you try to start the engine with the number one plug wire off

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  5 месяцев назад

      Just to put your mind at ease, look closely at the video again. The #1 spark plug wire is connected to the #1 spark plug via the spark tester. The spark tester is connected between the yellow plug wire and the #1 spark plug. Thanks for watchin'.

  • @_WyreTheWolf
    @_WyreTheWolf 5 месяцев назад

    Too bad we wont see a build series on this monster. She has all the trappings of a fine hot rod.

  • @zAvAvAz
    @zAvAvAz 6 месяцев назад +1

    No wonder the aluminum case manual transmission is busted, it has a 500 horsepower and 500 to 600 torque crate engine in it. And if someone has blueprinted it, it could have way more.

  • @charlesfankhauser5499
    @charlesfankhauser5499 6 месяцев назад +3

    Ls7 454 crate motor.

  • @linuxman0
    @linuxman0 5 месяцев назад +1

    A car like this might be good for a complete restomod, stripped down to bare metal and rebuilt from the ground, up but, I don't know that it would be worth the money.

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  5 месяцев назад

      I actually know the car for sold to someone who is going to do just that to it. Thanks for watchin'.

  • @wescoupland3985
    @wescoupland3985 6 месяцев назад +1

    Watching you trying to get it started and it popping and banging is because your timing is 180 out it's a big block it will like 12 degrees at TDC at fire up then progress to about 34 wide open it definitely sounds like your timing is way out.

    • @buzzwaldron6195
      @buzzwaldron6195 6 месяцев назад +1

      It ran some, so it's not 180 degrees out... but may be poorly timed...

  • @JanusTheOld
    @JanusTheOld 5 месяцев назад

    Looks Like some valves have gliding issues. Check them and their joints/conduits.

  • @raylegg1728
    @raylegg1728 6 месяцев назад +2

    Can't you drop the distributor in with the rotor pointing at number 1,tdc on compression stroke?

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      I actually did that after shooting what you saw. The video didn't turn out the best so it got edited out. Sorry. Thanks for watchin'.

  • @hankstar56
    @hankstar56 6 месяцев назад

    You bring it up on top dead then back it down to around 12 degrees before then stab distributer pointed straight at #1.

  • @robertwest3093
    @robertwest3093 5 месяцев назад

    Manual transmission late second generation Camaros are a heck of a score. I don’t know why everyone in the ‘70s ordered the auto trans. It’s supposed to be a sporty car! I had a 1972 RS clone and a 1978 Type LT. I think the auto Z-28 got 3.42 gears and the manual got 3.73….or vice versa. All the base models received ridiculously tall 2.41 gears 😆

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo 3 месяца назад

      Only way they could pass epa strict mileage requirements. My Dads 73 Impala had the same thing

  • @coryclowers3028
    @coryclowers3028 5 месяцев назад

    At TDC, always point rotor at #1

  • @robertwatts8088
    @robertwatts8088 5 месяцев назад

    I need 2 get ahold of them, I need some help on my 68 nova!!

  • @Everything-Street-Outlaws-NPK
    @Everything-Street-Outlaws-NPK 6 месяцев назад

    100% it’s a 4 bolt main. The big bung is for an external oil cooler though.

  • @skeetersaurus6249
    @skeetersaurus6249 6 месяцев назад

    The casting number is a Tonawanda 72-75 454 casting, but a LOT of those were 're-tasked' to other sizes...you have to look at the deck plate for positive ID...you're looking for 'CTB' specifically. If 'CTB' is stamped (not cast) into the deck plate, it is most-likely a 402 (1/8th inch smaller bore) than a 454. A NUMBER of people have made this same mistake, only to tear it down and find they had a mysterious 402, where they think it should be a 454. Someone below says they 'knew the car' from childhood...but if it were an LS7, if would OF COURSE have aluminum heads...which they don't appear to be (which is VERY MUCH in contradiction to a 72-75 casting date, to start with...). Check for your deck plate stamping number...it is the 'final say' on what that engine is...as it tells you what the raw casting was finally 'machined out' to be.

  • @jeffrey4547
    @jeffrey4547 6 месяцев назад +1

    i got a 79 z28 rs t top it will be my next project got 2 extra z28's for parts one has new custom interior in it then i got a 450 hp 454 with a 02xx trans and a t-10 4 speed with a new clutch and fly wheel for the 454 got all the parts to put it together got every thing for free . i been collecting parts for it for a few years y i build my 68 pu

    • @jeffrey4547
      @jeffrey4547 6 месяцев назад

      ps LS has never built a bbc they only build small blocks and it is a GM engine not a chevy

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      Sounds like a fun project. Thanks for watchin'.

    • @-donkey_696_
      @-donkey_696_ 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@jeffrey4547ls6 bbc came in a variety of cars. Most notable the 70 chevelle

    • @jeffrey4547
      @jeffrey4547 6 месяцев назад

      @@-donkey_696_ in the 70 chevelle they had 2 different 454's did u know that one was a bbc 454 and the other one was a LS 6 454 small block

    • @-donkey_696_
      @-donkey_696_ 6 месяцев назад

      @jeffrey4547 the only ls6 454 is a bbc ,a friend has a 70 ls6 454 chevelle it's definitely a big block ,looks the same as my 540 ,bbc have 7 bolts on valve covers sbc have 4 ,the biggest small Chevy made was a 400 small block ,the only other LS motor I'm aware of are the new ones ,I'd have to see that to believe it

  • @darter1075
    @darter1075 6 месяцев назад +1

    so are we not gonna talk about the external coil he is over looking. thats why they clipped the wires to the HEI. one end is chewed but at the dist it is clipped. and the piece missing in the dist is the ICM

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +1

      Apparently, I did not explain it well enough in the video, but what you are saying is incorrect. There was a lot of wiring chewed for the MSD stuff so I abandoned the MSD stuff and connected the factory wiring that was just sitting there. I installed a new distributor and coil into the car. Sorry for the confusion. Thanks for watchin'.

    • @Ada-zn3pw
      @Ada-zn3pw 5 месяцев назад

      You don't need the control module the MSD box replaces it

  • @vincentmalavolta6645
    @vincentmalavolta6645 6 месяцев назад

    Relocate the shocks and the right rim tires get wider

  • @charlesfankhauser5499
    @charlesfankhauser5499 6 месяцев назад +1

    The suffix code 3 letters from that tab will tell you everything about the block and heads stock.

    • @charlesfankhauser5499
      @charlesfankhauser5499 6 месяцев назад

      This is the exact way Dad and I bought motors back in the days for our 20 plus Novas. Quick and easy identification.

  • @NoralBlundell
    @NoralBlundell 6 месяцев назад

    You know the LS7 with a really good tune can crack 700hp . The 6&7 are numbers that give the clue to their real potential.

  • @davidreed6070
    @davidreed6070 6 месяцев назад

    I was trying to see if it has rec or oval port heads. The heads are marked if you know what to look ror.

  • @halloweenjunkie666
    @halloweenjunkie666 6 месяцев назад +2

    I was guessing 396 maybe 454

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watchin'. I appreciate it.

  • @jamesgeorge4874
    @jamesgeorge4874 6 месяцев назад +4

    Not sure about "holy grail" if I'm being honest, an all iron, 12:1 compression big block requires 100 octane fuel, and weighs 700 lbs. Maybe 40 years ago....

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watchin'. I appreciate it.

  • @R3S2Studios
    @R3S2Studios 6 месяцев назад

    What kind of gear was on the original distributor?? Brass or steal. Might have chewed up the distributor gear based on cam type

  • @unclepuddle
    @unclepuddle 2 месяца назад

    Really. That car was set up as a mild drag race set up. Sub frame connectors an Sfi scattershield, driveshaft hoop and ladder bars with a multiple spark discharge ignition box. And please next time fill the fuel bowls

  • @toml802
    @toml802 6 месяцев назад

    Hmm auto-purging!

  • @keysautorepair6038
    @keysautorepair6038 6 месяцев назад

    Trying to put a hei distributor with a mad box lol.

    • @Ada-zn3pw
      @Ada-zn3pw 5 месяцев назад

      What's wrong with that? Works well if you know what you're doing. The HEI he took out was set up correctly to run with the MSD box and coil. You can see they took the ignition module out of the distributor and took the coil out just like you're supposed to do. The new one he put in bypassed the MSD. I ran HEI with msd for several years without an issue

  • @Huntinghogs
    @Huntinghogs 6 месяцев назад +1

    XCH is the suffix for LS7.

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watchin'. Be sure to tell your friends about the channel.

  • @vincentmalavolta6645
    @vincentmalavolta6645 6 месяцев назад

    Fill the bowls through the vents let it soak. Manifolds really

  • @jamesmusisca7547
    @jamesmusisca7547 6 месяцев назад

    it's gonna take a lot of love if it's worth it it's still a camaro 19 and 81

  • @stephenmiller5023
    @stephenmiller5023 5 месяцев назад

    You asked for speculation on the horsepower rating on that LS-7 …… I say enough to frag a 4 speed …😏😜. Looks like possibly a Lakewood bellhousing assembly also ahead of that now worthless 4 speed ( it’ll make a great coffee table conversation piece however😆). I was kinda hoping to hear that baby run ( a whole lot better than those pops & farts anyway) and am a little saddened you cut the video short . That Holley Dominator Carb was an eye opener when you popped off the filter lid . Someone put a lot of money into that car , and in the right hands and with some tuning finesse could be a real sleeper out on the streets at night , especially with those cast iron manifolds and big Hemi Sized turbo mufflers . Keeps it pretty much in “ Stealth -mode “ Hopefully either you , or someone else will get this baby back out on the road , one headlight , patina & bondo & primer & all ,and shake up a few Tesla owners .😎👍

  • @jimirox1928
    @jimirox1928 5 месяцев назад

    Who cares! It's a Standard Shift! That's the most important aspect! Yall can take your slush box Automatics to the scrap yard. If the trans isn't a Muncie M22. Make sure to investigate it thoroughly because you'll need a M22 or a newer Tremec 5 or 6 speed to handle that Big Block torque. Good find guys.👍

  • @friguy4444
    @friguy4444 3 месяца назад

    WHAT? He doesn't WANT to do any more?? This is an AWESOME ROCK n ROLL MACHINE!!! AHH!! Fix it all the way and set her free!!!

  • @dahliaron
    @dahliaron 6 месяцев назад +1

    Dude power wire should be on the blaster coil not the cap

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watchin". I appreciate it.

  • @patrickm.8425
    @patrickm.8425 5 месяцев назад +1

    That crap trans isn't going to handle no 500hp BBC!! ROFL!! Gonna need a built TH350 or TH400 in that thing. If you wanna stay with manual trans, prepare to drop some bucks for one that will handle that kind of torque. It definitely has potential to be a sweet ride!
    P.S. Learn to set timing!
    T = Tonawanda
    0716 = July, 16th
    XCH = XCH is the suffix for the over the counter 454 LS7 crate engine.
    This engine was purchased over the GM parts counter, it started life as a bad ass piece, handle it with loving care!
    If nobody has changed any parts out of this engine, you have a 12.25:1 compression engine. You will need to run high octane fuel or set your timing way back. Don't cause detonation, it will destroy your engine. 4 bolt main, heavy duty rods, forged piston, steel crank, req port heads. It's badass. With right fuel and timing, should be an easy 600+hp engine. Enjoy! 💪

  • @vincentmalavolta6645
    @vincentmalavolta6645 6 месяцев назад

    I just told you the box is fired by the pick up coil

  • @jakegorman7121
    @jakegorman7121 Месяц назад

    If it's a holy Grail motor and it's a true 81 then it would have to be the turbocharged yenko, the last true yanko cars made.

  • @backyardbuilttrucks1
    @backyardbuilttrucks1 6 месяцев назад +1

    90% of the LS7s are stamped XCH on the center pad

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watchin'. Be sure to tell your friends about the channel.

  • @robertwest3093
    @robertwest3093 5 месяцев назад

    That car is a peach compared to most of the late second gens. I think Chevrolet purposely built those cars to rust in the floor pans, lower quarters, and rocker panels. The interiors don’t seem to hold up well either. Regardless, aftermarket parts are definitely plentiful! Shame about the 4 speed though

  • @vincentmalavolta6645
    @vincentmalavolta6645 6 месяцев назад

    If those plug wires are steel core not compatible with the 6al box

  • @perry5581
    @perry5581 6 месяцев назад +2

    If you don't have the fuel line hooked up pumping the carb isn't going to do any good

    • @up-n-runnin377
      @up-n-runnin377  6 месяцев назад +1

      You would normally be right, however, off camera, I filled the fuel bowls on the carb. Thanks for watchin'. I appreciate it.

  • @vincentmalavolta6645
    @vincentmalavolta6645 6 месяцев назад +1

    It's broken pull it out rods hanging out

  • @indiandoc2
    @indiandoc2 6 месяцев назад

    1st comment ( I know that car). I was about to say there wasn’t anything made in 1981 that I would consider a holy grail engine. Maybe Holey not Holy. Why would you look for transmission tube, you already knew it was a 4 speed.

    • @Ada-zn3pw
      @Ada-zn3pw 5 месяцев назад +1

      GM performance made those engines up into the late 90s early 2000s. That engine never came in a car. Was bought from a GM parts dealer

  • @johnnyforriester7325
    @johnnyforriester7325 6 месяцев назад

    Plastic master cylinder is the 1981 only tip off.