There is tens of millions of them I am starting to think George Carlins stat of think of how dumb the average person is, now think half of them are even more dumb that that. It is funny and scary like Asmon says.
there's a somewhat famous quote from a national park ranger I believe that is something like "The reason its so hard to create a bear proof trash can is that there is considerable overlap in intellect between the smartest bears and the dumbest people"
But most people are within a standard deviation of the mean. So most less-than-average people are only marginally less intelligent than most more-than-average people.
You're not wrong And that's why what asmon said is spot on, it's not about the shape of the earth, it's about going against established authority If the man says jumping in fire is bad, then jumping in fire is good!
Exactly, these kind of people just want to believe the truth is actually wrong. They want some sort of affirmation that they are more intelligent than the majoritiy when in fact they just make themselves look stupid.
@@Coxy-b34 Its the same thing with people who think they know how firearms work when they argue that the bullet WILL go to where they are aiming at. If you point a firearm straight at a target's forehead with a scope or a sight, people believe that is where the bullet will go when really it will actually hit their nose, eye or cheeks.
And if NASA published pictures of the Earth from space showing that it was the shape of a pyramid, you would instantly believe that it was 100% pyramid shaped.
no de problem is elite cabal & their agendas and their agendas behind that and all their tentacles of their minions with their tentacles full of goin low low low a low deez i see
Which would imply that people open to the concept of a flat earth are more intelligent than those who are confident on either side of the topic. Not that I believe in a flat earth at all, but the quote likely works outside your favor in this scenario.
My mom was a flat-earther, and I can 100% confirm her belief in it came through a consistent conditioning of her distrust of authority figures. She only started believing it around 2019 or so, but her being on the internet constantly certainly contributed.
Saying “trust science” or “believe in science” is a terrible way to put it, science challenges science all the time, science disproves science all the time. The problem is when people challenge science with nothing but voices in their heads and their ignorance in the topic. You don’t “believe” or “trust” science, you understand that the evidence is compelling enough to be accepted as true
I love Physics. I like the total surface area of the Earth moving, spinning, at speeds of around 1000 mph...faster than the speed of sound...in an Oxygen Rich Atmosphere....the friction would be distinct for the life of that planet as would the atmosphere's movements, they would be locked into the same rotation as the moving surface area creating all that drag, all that friction. But hey, I'm not arguing for a shape of any prison, I'm arguing for people to use some Physics and create their own models. Hell...they could ask AI to create the model for them. But the herd never thinks of the Physics of their Reality.
Trusting science means trusting the scientific method, not trusting the postulations of scientists. Science challenging science is a reason to trust it.
But you know and I know scientists are in their own echo chamber. If anyone tries to challenge the status quo with evidence,that's pretty damming, it's just handwave dismissed. There is zero measurable curvature down here where it matters. Can't be found. 3/4 of earth is underwater. Water at rest wether it's in a cup, a puddle, in a toilet, it is always level. Always. Water does not conform. Water will not lie. Every test ever done to gauge the motion of earth , proved the opposite. We're not moving. It's not hard to see once ya see it. It is difficult to deal with. I think it sucks. Life was a lot easier as a NASA fanboy atheist cruising the galaxy on a spinning water ball. But, it's not the case
And then never talk about it. Still love the 15° per Hour Drift-Rotation that was proven during the Flat-Earth Documentary and they never talk about after that
They also have a habit of doing "experiments" where they fudge the experiment, like putting a camera below the edge of a table so they can make a coin disappear behind the table. The difficultly is telling whether they push Flat Earth because they're stupid, or just for clicks and attention. Most of the "big names" in FE have been caught out lying or practicing deception more than once.
I always talked about the hollow earth. Not only I am obsessed with this theory, even the Nazis and Hitler were. They sent entire expedition teams in Antarctica to find the entrance to Agartha, the home of the Aryans, the home of the Vril, the home of the Hyperboreans
The problem isn't everyone has a voice, it's that everyone isn't critical. That means people spew out their ignorance and people blindly believe it. If people were critical there'd be absolutely no problem at all with people being able to say whatever they want. This is actually one of the reasons why people are f*scist and believe it's justified. Because they understand humans having freedom can be dangerous.
@@Stevo.100 precisely. Furthermore, a lot of people have a difficult time admitting they’re wrong as well. I’ve been in heated debates, to find out at the end that I was wrong. Admitting so was hard, but people tend to respect you when you can own up to being wrong. A lot of flat earthers are so prideful and just won’t admit that they’re wrong and don’t know what they’re talking about.
Flat earthers always said a 24 hour sun is impossible on flat earth, so some youtubers went to Antarctica recently to film a 24 hour sun. Flat earthers said they rented out a Hollywood studio with LED walls and that it was fake. Just ignore their game.
@@Godzilla_Star_Eater it literally exists and you can watch it right now? how you gonna act like bro is lying when the video is literally up on the internet...
Incorrect. Great A'Tuin is the specific space turtle, or Chelys galactica, that holds up the Discworld. Some other giant space turtle is holding up the earth.
There is a Brazilian Biologist that says a Phrase to describe this that I really love. A scientist gather information and then create a theory of how things work based on that information. These guys create a theory of how things work, and then they gather information to prove that their theory is right, ignoring what proves that the theory is wrong.
People have a strange belief that people in the past were less intelligent than we are now, or that they didn't think exactly as we do today. They did.. people have not changed at all, they just had less tools, less resources and limited language.
@@robertnapier624 Greek philosophers are a bunch of theorists. They have way more thing wrong than right. The scholars of Islamic Golden Age have way more impacts in modern science than them. They took what Greek had and develop it way way more and with early scientific methods Many fields of Modern science came from them not those Greeks. The misconception came from the Renaissance where people dug up old and proven to be false or outdated Greek works to use instead of much more developed works from the Arabs. Many actual discoveries the Renaissance came from the further developments of Arabs works.
@@Panteni87 Nope, that is only one part. The translators didn't only translate but studied to see whether the works were true or not. Then used that knowledge to build up even more. Also, just like today, U can't just ask somebody to translate a scientific works, u need to use subject experts so those translators were all accomplished men with decades to studies before becoming translators. That was a high paying job in contact with many really valuable books, one need to meet requirements to be accepeted The idea is to teach and improve the ancient knowledge (the correct ones) not blindly copy them. Many of the later generation scholars are not translators but scholars of various Houses of Wisdom. Like Alogrthim came from the name of the Father of Algebra. Through, in philosophy, many sources showed the same type of arguments between different schools. Some scholars wrote about the ridiculousness of the sides performed the same debates like thousand of years ago
Maybe it was George Carlin (or some other comedian) who said "tell someone there are a billion stars in the sky and they will believe you, but put a "wet paint" sign on a wall and they have to touch it to be sure."
But we want people to test theories and ideas, it’s the best way to learn The problem is flat Earthers “test” things and either don’t accept the out comes if proven wrong or don’t do further tests to make sure what the outcome wasn’t a fluke or an unknown variable effected it
That's actually the basis for flat earth theory. They are unable to see whether the earth is flat or a sphere from their perspective on the planet, so it could be either until they themselves see it with their own eyes. It's not necessarily that they are mentally handicapped for believing the earth is flat, it's more that they are skeptical of the claim that it is a sphere and went with the default that it is flat based on their perspective on the surface of the planet. Personally I learn towards it being a sphere, but it could be either since I haven't jumped on a rocket and looked down at the Earth from space to verify myself.
@@TyrianHaze There are things you can do to literally test it yourself. They deny anything and everything no matter what instead and will believe literally anything that even remotely supports their idea blindly. That is the issue. Difficult to progress to solving the next issues if you constantly need to revisit everything to make sure yourself it is right first. That is why there are studies, examples, demonstrations, and so on to help catch people up to speed.
@TyrianHaze flat earthers aren't just people who are ignorant or uneducated, and are like "looks kind of flat to me, but guess it could be round, whatever idk" Flat earthers are people who have thoroughly looked into their idea and are absolutely confident in it, despite an overwhelming amount of evidence to the contrary. Also All of thier theories involve some form(s) of a global (discus, lol) conspiracy that tricks people into thinking it's a sphere for nefarious reasons... it also typically involves some god/Satan stuff, and tend to evangalize thier beliefs in flat earth...
My personal theory is that Flat Earth started as a massive troll post that spiraled out of control. Like a few people online posted some pseudoscience nonsense that they thought no one would be stupid enough to believe, and then watched in some combination of horror and amusement as they found out that yes, there are people that stupid.
Considering what the old internet was like that is probably what actually happened, there are probably still people that believe there are haunted websites that can curse you to death as well, that was a big one back in the day.
well flat earth society been around longer than the internet itself. but still it could be someone that saw it and think it is dumb and post it on the internet.
Omg so true brother and let's not forget: It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool. Insult me all you want, these statements ring true!
What I've learned from life is that people will stand by what they believe no matter how much goes against what they believe. People will die on that hill to no end. Prime example is religion
TBH, the original flat earth society was done as a joke to see how far you could take a bogus narrative and try to support it with argument. Since RUclips, it's about half dudes trying to make money by getting clicks, and about half that are scientifically illiterate.
It's one of those controlled opposition jokes to spread the propaganda. Bit like how they lied to people that the hospitals were full in 2020, whilst simultaneously all around the world medical staff having enough time to choreograph dance videos together... Joke's on those who laugh without investigating.
@@1_underthesun I disagree with flat earthers. They haven’t sold me on the theory because extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and they fall way short there. However, they do raise interesting *science-based* points that anyone can ponder for themselves EMPIRICALLY and see where they land. Still, they’d need much more to prove to me that the Earth is flat, and in my opinion, they fall far short. That said, when you look at their most serious proponents (whatever that means in this context lol), you realize they’ve thought about the shape of the Earth and the science behind it even far more than the people who dismiss them outright without actually entertaining their argument. 99% of the people are simply going by what they were taught in school and haven’t spent any time *critically* considering it for themselves both ways either that the Earth is round or flat. Yet, the zeitgeist tells them they’re sophisticated for not thinking about it at all. That’s a good recipe to be duped-and it’s exactly what happens with most other topics. _It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it._ - Aristotle
I think the whole "Look at who you can't criticize and you'll see who rules you" is referring more to when it's actually forbidden and illegal to criticize a person or group, rather than just what's socially acceptable. It may be frowned upon to criticize kids with cancer but it's not illegal. But if disagreeing with someone, criticizing them or their beliefs, or simply not going along with their ideas leads to you being arrested, fined, or jailed, then that quote becomes a lot more valid.
The amount of things that turned out to be actually fact about covid, that people called "misinformation" or a "conspiracy theory" is insane! No I will never just "trust the science" again! Especially when it's an experimental science!
@imashadow699 That’s also called faith. Faith is just believing something you can’t prove. But the second you can prove it wrong, then why would you believe it. And the second you prove it right, then you don’t believe in it, you just know it.
"You can't reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into." Asmon be saying some fire quotes sometimes. This literally applies to most of the morons on twitter and reddit.
I work with an unironic flat earther. I've stopped trying to convince him he's wrong. He sends me videos of "the ice wall." They're just videos of a glacier or iceberg in the north pole.
22:30-22:50 This is the main point of the matter. I saw a scientist mentioning how these conspiracies became widely spread in a period that contains 2 factors: - Mass communication accesible for most people. - Highly divisive politics. They are merely a symptom of a divided and distrustful society.
Is it a conspiracy or a scientific fact that large bodies of water seek level? Is it a conspiracy or a scientific fact that you can not have gas pressure adjacent to a vacuum without a container? 'Flat earth' is a result of people thinking critically and logically, and actually applying science. Unlike the globe which is based purely on faith and theories.
"Humans were supposed to eat raw potatoes and die at the age of 32 due to a tooth ache" is probably the funniest thing I have heard all week. I love that.
I mean it's so true. Humanity made it 200K years like that. Thinking everyone one of us is capable of knowing everything or at least having a trace understanding is very wishful.
Even tho this is untrue. If someone survived childhood/childbirth, most people lived into their 60s and early 70s. Other factors of course were war, famine, accidents, etc.
@@taylemgames2652 Yep, main reason why most families back in the day tried to have 3+ children. Since if you had at least 3, that nearly guaranteed one of them survived to adulthood.
"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" - Sam Harris
Yeah, as someone that has long-time friends that are Flat-Earthers, I came to these conclusions years ago. But Asmon puts it best: "They just don't believe it." It's all faith-based. They rather believe the smallest evidence that they can interpret to prove their argument than thousands against it.
@@joshanonline i think most of them are either proud/peer/friends/locked in closet commies and/or folks that hate/can´t stand/never tried the good old deity(ies) or those who really just don´t givv shxt whatsoever yeh only when the beer is empty yeh those in the system ofcourse who are scared for well yeh i mean crazy shxt might happen when it all finally goes over that certain keeling over percentage hehehh hey let it be and let it shine is what i´m sayin
@@joshanonline That's because Asmond is a fool. Flat earth has hundreds of proofs. HUGE, undeniable proofs. Whereas the globe has zero. Just as an easy starter - Why don't you have any evidence of curvature? Why has it never been detected(measured)? Not even 1mm Why can't you explain gas pressure next to a vacuum, without a container? Why can't you demonstrate water sticking a ball? Why can't you detect the earth rotating?
I had a flat earther friend once, and had a debate over what the sky would look like if the Sun went in circles. After I brought up several points that he could not reconcile with a flat earth, he, without joking, told me that "the sky is glitched". That it's like a projection or distorted portal to another realm, and it makes it look like the earth was round, while in reality it's flat. Asmon is absolutely right that taking flat earthers to space wouldn't solve a thing.
You do not even need to go to space. A high-flying plane would do to see some curvature. When asked a flat earther about the curvature, he responded that the windows distort the view. I think this proves that point.
Bro, more than 50% of people can't picture an apple in their mind if you ask them to visualize one, nor answer how they would feel if they didn't have breakfast yesterday.
@@Sp3rw3rhe was probably confused by your question since modern astrophysicists have already declared you won't see curvature at 100 000ft so if you think you saw it at 35 000 you must REALLY have your nose up against the window.
Actually, that's wrong. What Eratosthenes did was a measurement of circumference of the earth but the way he did that does not prove or falsify that earth is a sphere. It's a common misconception for some reason
The best part is they cannot make a single map that makes all of their beliefs make sense simultaneously. They have to pull out a completely different map for each explanation
It's a disk in the crystal sphere. The top of the disk is toril while the bottom is abier. Nobody reaches the other side because nobody wants to deal with aboleths. @@utrak
Flat Earthers have proven more times that the earth is round then flat and everytime they are like "hmmm, this data says we are wrong. Lets ignore this data"
Well yeah. It's not because flat earthers are stupid... I mean it is true that they are willfully ignorant. It's just that scientists aren't trustworthy.
The flat earthers have arrived lmao Dear flat earthers: get in a plane, travel in one direction, where will you end up? Back where you started. Why is there no real images of the flat earth and every image is a drawing? If there's an ice wall and it's guarded, why is there not a single video showing either the ice wall or the guards? Why can I not see the Eiffel tower by using a telescope in Australia? I know I'm wasting my time, but it feels good to give them that feeling of cognitive dissonance as they scramble to make weak excuses for why they can't admit they believe something obviously wrong.
That was a quote by the Flat Earth Society. They are pretty much a group of deceptionists formed to make people believe how stupid flat earthers are and it worked.
@@adrianstanczak1127 no, the argument is that they will openly say it in order to vomit their opinions and bogus science. They’re trying to bait you into a discussion you dont wanna have. Most of them will actually do “research” (youtube videos) and memorize what they see and hear. Now you’re in a discussion with someone who actually has arguments that you will most likely not be able to disprove on the spot. You, as a regular person, chose to accept this “theory” because its just fucking logical and people who dedicated their lives to study the universe are telling you its true. So you most likely dont have the required evidences to prove and explain why earth is in fact, not flat.
3 quotes that will help you in your life. 1.Arguing with an idiot feels like running in circles. You end up exactly where you started but more exhausted. 2.The problem with arguing with idiots is that they often confuse arrogance with intelligence. 3.The moment you engage in an argument with an idiot, you've already lost. They thrive on wasted time and frustration.
SJWs, feminists, and cultists use that same principle to avoid debate. You're just scared and can't handle cognitive dissonance so you rationalise not communicating with us. When one side is unwilling to talk, the people on the fence see the side more open to talking as more reasonable, which is the flat Earthers.
@@killjoyredux8361 sounds like a you problem more than anything else to be honest. While this is something that plague many people, its also quite easy to have a discussion. The exchange of ideas is not a new concept and has been around for thousands of years. If you’re having a discussion with someone with the intent of sticking to your guns regardless of the evidence presented to you, thats your problem.
I once met a guy who said he was a flat earther (I don't even know why he brought it up), but that also he was writing a science fiction story in which the planet was round. People are special, that's for sure.
My theory is that flat-earthers are so aggressive about their beliefs and so unlikely to change them because they're desperate to be right about something that nobody else is. It would mean that for the first time in their lives, they're the smart one and everyone else is the idiot.
Literally main character syndrome. People are so fucking bored and so mind-warped into desperately wanting something "cool" to be real (like a fantasy movie). They think they're special and the whole "I'm right, everyone else is wrong". Like you know that cartoon with the big crowd of people, and there's one guy standing alone saying "yes, you're actually all wrong". SO MANY PEOPLE fall for that shit. It's unreal.
"Wizard's First Rule: people are stupid." "People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People's heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool." - Wizard's First Rule
All that's needed is basic critical thinking skills and the willingness to accept that experts are experts for a reason. The ability to accept that a consensus among experts CAN BE TRUSTED is the baseline of intelligence required by modern society.
Well the "experts" have been wrong countless of times, just take covid for example. Or something like the Lipid hypothesis. Also many times there is a percieved consensus of experts presented in the media, but in reality researchers might disagree on many things (for example how much humans contribute to the warming of the planet). But publicly going against official narratives might destroy your career. So some people see this, and instead of thinking critically about each topic, they jump to the conclusion that "it's all a lie", even if it makes no sense, like with flat earth.
@@Tomiro-1984 Countless times? lol no. There is widely varying research on many topics like lipid hypothesis... but that's why I said the word "consensus". When a consensus of the scientific community agrees on something... a non expert logically MUST defer to the experts. Experts challenging experts is something ENTIRELY different... That's what science is. But when it comes to the general population... they must defer to the scientific consensus. You are correct that the media does tend to simplify certain topics to a point where they can be easily misunderstood. For instance... Climate Change = real... average increase of the planets surface temperature has been proven. Human caused increase of CO2 in the atmosphere = real... there has been an enormous measurable increase in atmospheric CO2 since the beginning of the industrial age. Where the discussion lies is in correlation vs causation. But intelligent people (like yourself) would have to agree... humans changing the composition of the atmosphere probably isn't a good thing... regardless of whether or not you think it's affecting the speed of climate change. Also, tell me how SPECIFICALLY the experts were wrong on COVID... and I'll tell you how you have no idea what you are talking about.
@jasonluvisi "Countless times? lol no. " Asbestos, DDT, Mercury, Early versions of hormonal treatment for women, Lobotomy. Just a few thing of the top of my head. "That's what science is. But when it comes to the general population... they must defer to the scientific consensus" Must. That is a strong word, but ok. As I said, we don't always know if there actually is a consensus, unless we go through everything that's been published, but that is not realistic for most people or every topic. Of course we can and do extrapolate based on previous experience for better or for worse. "Where the discussion lies is in correlation vs causation" Or to what degree excess CO2 impacts temperature. Some pretty radical "green" policies are being made on the assumption that this is a catastrophy. Meanwhile there are a lot of other real problems potentially facing our planet that we almost completely ignore for some reason. "Also, tell me how SPECIFICALLY the experts were wrong on COVID... and I'll tell you how you have no idea what you are talking about. " Not all experts, but a lot of politics (and money) were involved, so we heard a very one sided story, perhaps void of actual experts, where it was decided in advance that future vaccines (never before managed to make a successful vaccine against a coronavirus) were the way out, and nothing else could work, and alternatives were being suppressed or ridiculed even before we had a vaccine. There are lots of interesting new papers coming out if you happend ot be interested. I could go into detail, but since you just said how you'll respond, I'm good.
That's not an incorrect or irreconcilable usage if you know basic context. Flat-Earthers are dumb as bricks, but don't feed into bad faith snipes, it just gives them ammo if one of them is smart enough to recognize and deconstruct it.
I'm pretty sure that was back when the whole thing was just a joke. Before cult leaders started making money off their gullible followers. If was promoted for a while because it makes other conspiracies look dumb
You see, some of them think that only earth is a disk and all other planets are globes. Others think all planets are disks, and every other planet is constantly rotating in such a way that they always point towards earth, making them look round at all times. I guess in this theory, earth is the centre of the universe? Point is, they can't come to a consensus.
@@Metallijosh100 Especially something like Jupiter. It even has a bigger-than-earth size spot that you can use as a literal point of reference to see that it is rotating.
As far as science and religion go, religion is a belief/faith making it impossible to prove/disprove. Its the equivalent of telling someone else how they feel. As far as science goes it is also a faith/belief thats guided by fundamentals that are understood by the general consensus. That being said science can also change unlike religion which stays stagnant in its fundamentals. Science is what we understand it to be at the time and new discoveries happen every day and it evolves.
Religion can be proven false. Spirituality can’t. We can say without any shadow of a doubt that the god of the bible not only does not exist - but cannot exist, and the bible itself proves this.
Its hard to have discussions with flat earthers as a HAM radio guy, because as soon as you explain beyond line-of-sight radio communications they shut down. And they cant justify why VHF and UHF communications dont go as far as HF, because they cant get past the hurdle of the earth being round.
When there are ACTUAL conspiracies that has to be revealed, junk ones like flat-earth make me think of it as a DOUBLE conspiracy (like a cover up kind to lure you away from real damaging conspiracies). Which is ironic since the meat of it points to a distrust in authority which, let's be real here, doesn't need flat-earth to start with.
Seems much like this. there is a lot of true facts that people are mixing btween some crazy stuff.... We know that some big indutrial corps pay some idiots to protest againts the pollution and climate change in very dumb ways. Tha was to make people get a bad opnion about the topic and don't listen when someome say about it. soo is very likely i think is a tatic some powerfull dudes are using and is working very weell. The sky is blue so that is why the grass is red... and vo a lá people think the sky can't not be blue now!
What people don't understand is they think a theory is a guess. In science that's absolutely not true. A hypothesis is a guess. A theory is formed when dozens, if not hundreds, of hypothesis' are found to to be accurate. In science a theory is the closest thing we'll ever get to a fact.
There are laws… gravity is not a theory. The laws of thermodynamics are not theories. They are scientific laws. There can be several scientific theories about a particular phenomena whereas a law represents a single unified agreement among all scientists.
@@beginninglastleg4444 gravity doesn't exist. gravity is a macrocosmic unicorn theory that cannot be proven and exists totally outside the realm of all science forever.
I love how everyone calls stupid... Very smart people believe the earth isn't a ball. Even niel tyson said its not round, then said it's bulged at the middle. The stupid people are the ones who just believe what they are told. The powers that be don't like people who think outside the box.
I met my first flat earther the last few months. Took me awhile to understand what she meant by a "dome" over the planet, and she keeps talking about how Elon Musk keeps sending rockets and it hits the dome but it doesn't get damaged by hitting the dome, but the important thing is that it's impossible to break through the dome. At least if you are using rockets, which aren't really well known for being super sturdy and capable of smashing through things, since making something sturdy adds weight. What about explosive missiles? She thinks that's a great idea and she wonders why no one ever thought about that, and I'm a genious for coming up with it. The moon isn't real. It's an image that a secret organization projects onto the wall of the dome, or "firmament" as she now calls it (changing language to make it sound less crazy). Where does the light come from? That's a great question. She doesn't know. Can we send scientists to study the dome? No it's too high, and people fall unconscious when they get near the dome. What about robots. No, no, no, the connection with the robots cuts off and so that doesn't work at all... She. Is. Insane. And she is constantly trying to convince me, and anyone else that will listen, of her whackjob conspires. She's also constantly getting sucked into any money making scheme. We got some magical stock market that you just need to give 200$ and they garuntee massive returns and it's funded by Elong Musk because he just wants the working man to make money. We got mobile games that if she could only pass level 2 would give her 10k. We got some sort of virtual earth where you can buy the virtual land and then you own the physical property, meaning you don't actually own your own home unless you buy the land on this game. It's just one thing after another.
@@AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan If she was hot, I be fine ignoring the crazy, because it's not a kind of crazy that I find either dangerous or offensive. It's just crazy conspricy anti-establishment nonsense. Oh, and she's not religous.
With a quick google "The earliest clear documentation of the idea of a spherical Earth comes from the ancient Greeks (5th century BC). The belief was widespread in the Greek world when Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of Earth around 240 BC." Sabine has an awesome channel, amazing to see you give her some love!
he was hardly ancient egyptian, given that he lived during a time when the romans controlled egypt and was in time closer to us than to the builders of the great pyramids. Although the fundemental point of your argument still stands. People 2000 years ago understood that the earth was round.
@@GuardianSoulkeeperthose “for context” are fake and used to push the mainstream narrative. Everyone knows google and RUclips can’t be trusted. They put those up to convince people that the subject in the video has been disproven.
@@GuardianSoulkeeper He is saying that from the perspective of a flat earther, it gives it more legitimacy, because to them the powers that be are trying to suppress it as if it proves their point. It also gives the topic more attention and thus the perceived legitimacy. The Idea is that by addressing it directly, it might imply that Flat earth is a significant enough topic to warrant an official rebuttal. Essentially... talking about fringe theory elevates its status by making it look like a valid subject to debate.
My elderly father asked me a while back: 'if the Earth is spinning at 5,000 miles-per-hour, how does all the water in the oceans not spin off into space?' All I could do was look at him in shock. I'd have a far better life now at almost 50 if I hadn't listened to any of his advice as I was growing up. When you're a kid looking for guidance you are relying on your parent to set you in the right direction. It's a lottery. He may have had some of that passed to him, so he thought that was how to raise a kid, but that doesn't help me much.
@@leocrow1919 lol, just say you don’t understand math or physics. Can you show me a model in which our day/night cycle works on a flat earth? No, you sure can’t😂
@@leocrow1919 no one claims it’s a “ball”. Sphere doesn’t mean ball, lol. The fact you can’t differentiate that difference says a lot and the fact you use that word(making your argument a strawman) like it’s some sort of gotcha is WILDLY telling.
@@leocrow1919 earthrise, taken by Apollo 8 while orbiting the moon. There's your image, just search "earthrise". But we all know you'll just say it's fake anyway along with all the other footage from space.
I remember when I first stumbled across the flat earth society website back before it had really blown up and became part of the social zeitgeist. I took it as a tongue in cheek way of criticism of most people's propensity to accept 2nd and 3rd hand assertions as irrefutable fact, something which I am 100% behind. However, I've personally experienced witnessing the curvature of the earth. I worked on a seafaring tugboat that hauled a barge in the Gulf of Mexico. Our radar would show ships that weren't visible in the wheel house, but if you climbed up to the pilot house about 80 feet above the water line, you could see them. I watched ships and oil rigs pass from visible to the naked eye in the wheel house, to needing binoculars in the wheel house, to needing binoculars in the pilot house, to seeing only their upper structures past the sea, to not visible because of the horizon. Personally, I find the dogmatic acceptance of 2nd and 3rd hand information as inarguable fact scary.
There's one problem when it comes to your last sentence. There is no way everyone could or should spend the time and resources needed to prove each and every scientific idea for themselves. If that were the case, I wouldn't be able to believe in anything. I can look up what water is made out of, but if I followed your idea in your last sentence, I can't believe that it is one oxygen atom and two hydrogen atoms, because there's no way for me to prove it for myself.
I have no problem with people taking 2nd and 3rd hand information as fact. No problem with that at all. As both the response and original video said, there's too much information to not do that. Inarguable fact. That's the problem. When what some guy on the internet told you means that you'll ignore the data of your own eyes, what your own sensitive scientific instruments say, what 300,000,000 other people - all far more educated than that guy on the internet - have to say, and what all common sense says, and actively disbelieve thousands of photographs, that's a problem.
I think people just need to be really careful about the source of second and third hand data. You need to apply discernment. How many other things has this person been right about. Is there anyway to conduct a sniff test on the data even of you can't analyze it completely?
@@tobias_dahlberg thats not a problem at all, because you dont need to prove things personally, you know that if physics didnt work they way they told us, nothing would work. Trains wouldnt work, phones wouldnt work, the internet wouldnt exist, satellites wouldnt exist, etc You know its true just because of the fact that your washing machine works properly. And if you doubt that, you can become an expert on washing machines and be able to repair them and dismantle them, and that would be enough to prove that the earth is round. Its that simple. Dont believe in round earth? Dismantle a fucking phone and learn how it works. When you realize it works exactly as everyone has ever told you and there are no lies, you will realize thats the proof of round earth
I to once visited Jamaica and could see cuba. Care to explain? There are TONS of videos as well. Guess real life experiences are irrelevant because youtube said so and that was free I just looked with my eyes.
I used to be flat rather. The trick is not to double down on anything. When you double down on a false belief, it's hard to get out. Being open minded it's key. Weather its wrong or right. Like when they tell u test everything wven the simple tests. They probably dont teach it in a school no more.
Wow, I'm proud of you. You managed to actually do what most flerfs can't. You were willing to accept you might be wrong. Good on you for escaping the cult!
People try to shame me for not voting, but I know I'm dumb and I don't understand this shit. Every time I was forced to vote, I just chose whoever had the coolest name because I don't know these people and I don't understand what they stand for.
People want you to believe that doing nothing is the worst thing you can do, but choosing to do nothing is a choice you can decide is in some situations the best decision.
I think the main point of this belief is that we shouldn't just take other people's words for things. It encourages critical thinking and emphasizes the importance of doing your own research to develop your own conclusions, something that is often lacking in today's society.
So why only flat earth? Why not ANY other scientific statement? These people decided that that a stance (flat earth) with less proof, hinging on a thousand year conspirace involving the entire population on the earth, and that goes against everything we so far know about reality, is someehow more worth believing than common science. That's not critical thinking, that's mental brain damage.
100% disagree. This belief exist because flat earthers are science deniers who have a distrust in governments ( for no solid reasons)… in which eventually the argument revolves back around to them defending their religious beliefs and their interpretation of what they think religious text says. Zero critical thinking involved as their only stance is just to deny all evidence for a globe
Honestly I’m in the middle, when I search into sacred geometry and intelligent design. Water knowing what you’re talking about etc… I realize all things are not an accident.
The Earth is not flat bro. You can re-create a model of the Sun Moon and Earth, and easily re-create eclipses, sunsets, the two distinct polar patterns, etc. But if you create a model of the flat Earth, none of those things will work out, unless you literally make up all new magical rules of physics that are super contrived, and also never observed in real life anywhere.
@@jakdexter2075 The Earth is very clearly a round globe. There is nothing being hidden about the shape of the globe. This is not something you can fake in a movie studio, like the Moon landing or Godzilla movies.
@@justinmadrid8712 Did you miss the part where the guy was talking about sacred geometry, intelligent design and "water knowing what you're talking about". This guys a fruit loop you're wasting your time.
The whole thing about flat earth coming from a complete and total distrust in authorities and everything is so true. I know a flat earther irl and that's pretty much their whole reason. And yeah, they also believe in a bunch of other conspiracy theories etc.
"It doesn't sound crazy if you're stupid." Nailed it. Interest in Flat Earth as far as YT and other video platforms are concerned probably has a lot to do with the anti-Flerf channels that are enjoying a lot of popularity also.
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The Earth is a cube. Every minecraft player knows this.
Like come one, we have a perfectly functional simulation of it. How can it be disproved?
But in minecraft the earth is flat? Cubeheads coping and seething rn.
"hHmm" - Minecraft villager saying "For real tho"
Turn up the Resolution jeez😊
Minecraft earth isnt cube. Its endless.
Years ago every village had an idiot, now because of the internet they can get together and have conferences
There is tens of millions of them I am starting to think George Carlins stat of think of how dumb the average person is, now think half of them are even more dumb that that. It is funny and scary like Asmon says.
@@heliosgnosis2744 It's got electrolytes.
rofl omgosh this is so true.
The internet is a double edged sword.
And half of you’re great country is as this
Why … oh why
there's a somewhat famous quote from a national park ranger I believe that is something like "The reason its so hard to create a bear proof trash can is that there is considerable overlap in intellect between the smartest bears and the dumbest people"
i remember that saying
To be fair, Yogi was a pretty smart bear.
@@AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan definitely above average
I heard that quote in Ron Swanson's voice...
and I'm ok with that.
This is deplorable and depressing!!
The female bears actually look after their Cubs without manipulating social norms
"believe the Mayan,they know" are we talking about the same Mayans that rip out people hearts because their crops got dry?
"Think of how dumb the average person is and then realize half of them are dumber than that," - George Carlin
But most people are within a standard deviation of the mean. So most less-than-average people are only marginally less intelligent than most more-than-average people.
It's disappointing how people are incapable of thinking of original comments these days
@@alexnorth2452 Nothing wrong with learning from our wisest elders.
@@innocentsmith6091 Everyone is missing the point, 10% fall below 80. Do you have any idea of how many people this is and how slow they are
Technically this is wrong, it should be the "median" person, not the "average" person.
If the Earth was flat, these people would believe that the Earth is round.
You're not wrong
And that's why what asmon said is spot on, it's not about the shape of the earth, it's about going against established authority
If the man says jumping in fire is bad, then jumping in fire is good!
Exactly, these kind of people just want to believe the truth is actually wrong. They want some sort of affirmation that they are more intelligent than the majoritiy when in fact they just make themselves look stupid.
@@Coxy-b34 Its the same thing with people who think they know how firearms work when they argue that the bullet WILL go to where they are aiming at. If you point a firearm straight at a target's forehead with a scope or a sight, people believe that is where the bullet will go when really it will actually hit their nose, eye or cheeks.
just like when ur parents like something u like u don't like it nomo
And if NASA published pictures of the Earth from space showing that it was the shape of a pyramid, you would instantly believe that it was 100% pyramid shaped.
"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence." - Charles Bukowski.
no de problem is elite cabal & their agendas and their agendas behind that and all their tentacles of their minions with their tentacles full of
goin low low low a low deez i see
This is a good one
Indeed.
I used to be like this and believe someone even tho i knew they are wrong because of the confidence they exuded while saying it
Which would imply that people open to the concept of a flat earth are more intelligent than those who are confident on either side of the topic.
Not that I believe in a flat earth at all, but the quote likely works outside your favor in this scenario.
My mom was a flat-earther, and I can 100% confirm her belief in it came through a consistent conditioning of her distrust of authority figures. She only started believing it around 2019 or so, but her being on the internet constantly certainly contributed.
Yep. Social Media is now a tool used against us and flat erthers are THE exact type of people who it was made to manipulate.
Has she since grown out of it? 🫤
@@ReallyUnderstandEnglish She died.
I lost my shit when the dinosaurs got yeeted to the outerspace.
But that’s how it happened 😂🤣😭
Panspermia lol.
@@oatsey1345 Go to a museum and come back to me
That's what happened, IRL
Many dinosaurs in museums are faked they have a few bones rest they constructed themselves.
Saying “trust science” or “believe in science” is a terrible way to put it, science challenges science all the time, science disproves science all the time. The problem is when people challenge science with nothing but voices in their heads and their ignorance in the topic. You don’t “believe” or “trust” science, you understand that the evidence is compelling enough to be accepted as true
Damn gonna have to remember that. Thats a great way of thinking about science.
I love Physics. I like the total surface area of the Earth moving, spinning, at speeds of around 1000 mph...faster than the speed of sound...in an Oxygen Rich Atmosphere....the friction would be distinct for the life of that planet as would the atmosphere's movements, they would be locked into the same rotation as the moving surface area creating all that drag, all that friction. But hey, I'm not arguing for a shape of any prison, I'm arguing for people to use some Physics and create their own models. Hell...they could ask AI to create the model for them. But the herd never thinks of the Physics of their Reality.
The solution is to outcraze them. "You think the Earth is flat? The Earth is a pyramid; everybody knows that!"
Trusting science means trusting the scientific method, not trusting the postulations of scientists. Science challenging science is a reason to trust it.
But you know and I know scientists are in their own echo chamber. If anyone tries to challenge the status quo with evidence,that's pretty damming, it's just handwave dismissed.
There is zero measurable curvature down here where it matters. Can't be found. 3/4 of earth is underwater. Water at rest wether it's in a cup, a puddle, in a toilet, it is always level. Always. Water does not conform. Water will not lie. Every test ever done to gauge the motion of earth , proved the opposite. We're not moving. It's not hard to see once ya see it. It is difficult to deal with. I think it sucks. Life was a lot easier as a NASA fanboy atheist cruising the galaxy on a spinning water ball. But, it's not the case
The funniest shit is flat earthers doing experiments to prove the earth is flat and then proving it's round.
And then never talk about it. Still love the 15° per Hour Drift-Rotation that was proven during the Flat-Earth Documentary and they never talk about after that
And then they start to adjust their measuring methods and fail again.
I've never seen that but would love to find proof of it being round.
@@KE-yq2egyou have proof everyday, it's called the sun
They also have a habit of doing "experiments" where they fudge the experiment, like putting a camera below the edge of a table so they can make a coin disappear behind the table.
The difficultly is telling whether they push Flat Earth because they're stupid, or just for clicks and attention. Most of the "big names" in FE have been caught out lying or practicing deception more than once.
That's a great quote, and I've never heard it: "You cannot reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into." Fantastic.
I think that is a Christopher Hitchens quote.
Flat earth is so last year its all about the flat hollow earth now.
That was so 2010
its all about past the ice walls.
We should retro The Matrix
Thats sooo 17th century
I always talked about the hollow earth. Not only I am obsessed with this theory, even the Nazis and Hitler were. They sent entire expedition teams in Antarctica to find the entrance to Agartha, the home of the Aryans, the home of the Vril, the home of the Hyperboreans
The Earth isn't round or flat, it's fucked
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for westerners hehe
So a Donut shaped?
@@JimmyDoyel-by2cpand Eastern Europeans unfortunately
By me
The best thing the internet did was to give voice to everyone, the worst thing it did was to give voice to everyone.
The problem isn't everyone has a voice, it's that everyone isn't critical. That means people spew out their ignorance and people blindly believe it. If people were critical there'd be absolutely no problem at all with people being able to say whatever they want. This is actually one of the reasons why people are f*scist and believe it's justified. Because they understand humans having freedom can be dangerous.
Yeah that’s how ended up with people thinking men can be women, or that being gay is okay.
@@Stevo.100 precisely. Furthermore, a lot of people have a difficult time admitting they’re wrong as well. I’ve been in heated debates, to find out at the end that I was wrong. Admitting so was hard, but people tend to respect you when you can own up to being wrong. A lot of flat earthers are so prideful and just won’t admit that they’re wrong and don’t know what they’re talking about.
@@Teerts63 Yeah, thankfully that happened.
How do I know a conspiracy is real? Tom Scott makes a video about it.
Flat earthers always said a 24 hour sun is impossible on flat earth, so some youtubers went to Antarctica recently to film a 24 hour sun. Flat earthers said they rented out a Hollywood studio with LED walls and that it was fake. Just ignore their game.
"It doesn't sound crazy if you're stupid."
That's the most impressively concise explanation of flat earth I've ever heard.
My favorite documentary was the flat earth documentary where they used science to “prove” and then disprove their own theory
Under the dome I think. Saw it too. 😂
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@@Godzilla_Star_Eater it literally exists and you can watch it right now? how you gonna act like bro is lying when the video is literally up on the internet...
@@Godzilla_Star_Eaterthat was a dumb comment…one Google search could’ve saved you from that lol
A 15 degree drift? Thanks bob 😂
Actually the world is resting on the backs of four huge elephants which are standing on the back of an enormous turtle, named Great A'Tuin.
but whats under the turtle?
Incorrect. Great A'Tuin is the specific space turtle, or Chelys galactica, that holds up the Discworld. Some other giant space turtle is holding up the earth.
@@DarthZ01 It goes all the way down
@@DarthZ01 More turtles.
@@DarthZ01It's turtles all the way down.
There is a Brazilian Biologist that says a Phrase to describe this that I really love.
A scientist gather information and then create a theory of how things work based on that information.
These guys create a theory of how things work, and then they gather information to prove that their theory is right, ignoring what proves that the theory is wrong.
People have a strange belief that people in the past were less intelligent than we are now, or that they didn't think exactly as we do today.
They did.. people have not changed at all, they just had less tools, less resources and limited language.
Why are Greek philosophers often quoted?
We can see further today because we stand on the shoulders of giants.
@@robertnapier624
Greek philosophers are a bunch of theorists. They have way more thing wrong than right.
The scholars of Islamic Golden Age have way more impacts in modern science than them. They took what Greek had and develop it way way more and with early scientific methods
Many fields of Modern science came from them not those Greeks.
The misconception came from the Renaissance where people dug up old and proven to be false or outdated Greek works to use instead of much more developed works from the Arabs.
Many actual discoveries the Renaissance came from the further developments of Arabs works.
@@huntermad5668 The majority of Islamic contribution was translating the texts of the old philosophers...
@@Panteni87
Nope, that is only one part. The translators didn't only translate but studied to see whether the works were true or not. Then used that knowledge to build up even more.
Also, just like today, U can't just ask somebody to translate a scientific works, u need to use subject experts so those translators were all accomplished men with decades to studies before becoming translators. That was a high paying job in contact with many really valuable books, one need to meet requirements to be accepeted
The idea is to teach and improve the ancient knowledge (the correct ones) not blindly copy them.
Many of the later generation scholars are not translators but scholars of various Houses of Wisdom.
Like Alogrthim came from the name of the Father of Algebra.
Through, in philosophy, many sources showed the same type of arguments between different schools. Some scholars wrote about the ridiculousness of the sides performed the same debates like thousand of years ago
Maybe it was George Carlin (or some other comedian) who said "tell someone there are a billion stars in the sky and they will believe you, but put a "wet paint" sign on a wall and they have to touch it to be sure."
But we want people to test theories and ideas, it’s the best way to learn
The problem is flat Earthers “test” things and either don’t accept the out comes if proven wrong or don’t do further tests to make sure what the outcome wasn’t a fluke or an unknown variable effected it
Patrick Star appears...
That's actually the basis for flat earth theory. They are unable to see whether the earth is flat or a sphere from their perspective on the planet, so it could be either until they themselves see it with their own eyes. It's not necessarily that they are mentally handicapped for believing the earth is flat, it's more that they are skeptical of the claim that it is a sphere and went with the default that it is flat based on their perspective on the surface of the planet. Personally I learn towards it being a sphere, but it could be either since I haven't jumped on a rocket and looked down at the Earth from space to verify myself.
@@TyrianHaze There are things you can do to literally test it yourself. They deny anything and everything no matter what instead and will believe literally anything that even remotely supports their idea blindly. That is the issue. Difficult to progress to solving the next issues if you constantly need to revisit everything to make sure yourself it is right first. That is why there are studies, examples, demonstrations, and so on to help catch people up to speed.
@TyrianHaze flat earthers aren't just people who are ignorant or uneducated, and are like "looks kind of flat to me, but guess it could be round, whatever idk"
Flat earthers are people who have thoroughly looked into their idea and are absolutely confident in it, despite an overwhelming amount of evidence to the contrary.
Also All of thier theories involve some form(s) of a global (discus, lol) conspiracy that tricks people into thinking it's a sphere for nefarious reasons... it also typically involves some god/Satan stuff, and tend to evangalize thier beliefs in flat earth...
"It doesn't sound crazy if you're stupid" Best line I've heard to describe Flat Earthers.
Couldn't careless about flat earth.. that's like being mad at pineapple on pizza. Now, on the issue of gender and pdf files- they take the cake
@@artistryspectrum512 😅
Globe is fake and scientificly impossible
There has already been two flat Earthers that proved the Earth is round, in their videos. And the flat Earthers still believe it's flat.
Once a fe'r recants, he becomes a paid shill in the eyes of the indoctr1nated ones he leaves behind...
My personal theory is that Flat Earth started as a massive troll post that spiraled out of control. Like a few people online posted some pseudoscience nonsense that they thought no one would be stupid enough to believe, and then watched in some combination of horror and amusement as they found out that yes, there are people that stupid.
the reason why there is more and more of them, is they didnt booster up
Considering what the old internet was like that is probably what actually happened, there are probably still people that believe there are haunted websites that can curse you to death as well, that was a big one back in the day.
Honestly, flat earthers are the best argument against the idea of the free market of ideas.
well flat earth society been around longer than the internet itself. but still it could be someone that saw it and think it is dumb and post it on the internet.
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
- A. Einstein
"you cant reason someone out of a position they didnt reason themselves in to"
this is just...chefs kiss*
Its easier to fool someone then to convince them they have been fooled. Its cognitive dissonance* Insult me all you want this statement rings true.
@circusbrains thanks for the spell check!
Omg so true brother and let's not forget:
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.
A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.
Insult me all you want, these statements ring true!
They have all balloon footage they need, but they still believe earth is curved and water curves with it.
@@Zemlja_je_ravna balloon footage lmao dog
True. For example: We never went to the moon. People find that fact hard to swallow.
What I've learned from life is that people will stand by what they believe no matter how much goes against what they believe. People will die on that hill to no end.
Prime example is religion
"The Flat Earth society has members all around the GLOBE"
yea, delusion has no boundaries.
TBH, the original flat earth society was done as a joke to see how far you could take a bogus narrative and try to support it with argument. Since RUclips, it's about half dudes trying to make money by getting clicks, and about half that are scientifically illiterate.
Like how people still believe whatever "the news" say
What is satire
It's one of those controlled opposition jokes to spread the propaganda. Bit like how they lied to people that the hospitals were full in 2020, whilst simultaneously all around the world medical staff having enough time to choreograph dance videos together... Joke's on those who laugh without investigating.
Flat earth conspiracy is my logic check... If I start believing in it, I know I've gone off the deep end officially and require help.
So true. I saw myself voluntarily showing up at the insane asylum and being asked why I am there... lol
Wait till you realize most flat earthers are way smarter than globe folks.
That's why it exists. Just to make people doubt their other conspiracy theories
@@Tommy_Ray And that comment proves they aren't. Yikes....
@@1_underthesun I disagree with flat earthers. They haven’t sold me on the theory because extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and they fall way short there. However, they do raise interesting *science-based* points that anyone can ponder for themselves EMPIRICALLY and see where they land. Still, they’d need much more to prove to me that the Earth is flat, and in my opinion, they fall far short. That said, when you look at their most serious proponents (whatever that means in this context lol), you realize they’ve thought about the shape of the Earth and the science behind it even far more than the people who dismiss them outright without actually entertaining their argument. 99% of the people are simply going by what they were taught in school and haven’t spent any time *critically* considering it for themselves both ways either that the Earth is round or flat. Yet, the zeitgeist tells them they’re sophisticated for not thinking about it at all. That’s a good recipe to be duped-and it’s exactly what happens with most other topics.
_It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it._ - Aristotle
I think the whole "Look at who you can't criticize and you'll see who rules you" is referring more to when it's actually forbidden and illegal to criticize a person or group, rather than just what's socially acceptable. It may be frowned upon to criticize kids with cancer but it's not illegal. But if disagreeing with someone, criticizing them or their beliefs, or simply not going along with their ideas leads to you being arrested, fined, or jailed, then that quote becomes a lot more valid.
like leaving a skid mark on a pride flag drawn in the road resulting in jail time.
@@GOD_AND_FLAT_EARTH_MUSIC_VIDEObro stop schizo posting 😂
The amount of things that turned out to be actually fact about covid, that people called "misinformation" or a "conspiracy theory" is insane!
No I will never just "trust the science" again!
Especially when it's an experimental science!
Yeah thats why people get arrested for not saying the right pronouns or burning pride flags.
@@GOD_AND_FLAT_EARTH_MUSIC_VIDEOi pray for u buddy.
"How do you know it's round?"
Smart Guy: "Because I was told it is and I believe them"
Lmfao!
Homie then continues to call others dumb.
Believing something you can’t prove wrong is called having faith. Believing something you can prove wrong is just being dumb.
Then What's "Believing Something You Can't Prove Right"?
I.e. the fake space globe in a vacuum with curved water
@imashadow699 That’s also called faith. Faith is just believing something you can’t prove. But the second you can prove it wrong, then why would you believe it. And the second you prove it right, then you don’t believe in it, you just know it.
So what’s the point of a hypothesis then?
Asmon is kind of a sociopath, dont think he even knows what faith is tbh
People don't want the truth. They want to be right
This is devastatingly true.
"You can't reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into." Asmon be saying some fire quotes sometimes. This literally applies to most of the morons on twitter and reddit.
I remind some friends of this too often. Based asmOn
I read this as he said it 😂
Unfortunately this also applies to the education system and government.
It’s a good quote but it’s an old one
"It doesn't sound crazy if you're stupid."
My understanding of the internet just leveled up two levels
I work with an unironic flat earther. I've stopped trying to convince him he's wrong. He sends me videos of "the ice wall." They're just videos of a glacier or iceberg in the north pole.
Just add 4 elephants and a giant sea turtle underneath, that would atleast make it sensible.
Nice reference
I second this, nice reference!
Yeah sure buddy, Maybe if you believe that elephants are real.
You can't fool me, it's turtles all the way down.
@@MarinanorCame here to say this.
22:30-22:50 This is the main point of the matter. I saw a scientist mentioning how these conspiracies became widely spread in a period that contains 2 factors:
- Mass communication accesible for most people.
- Highly divisive politics.
They are merely a symptom of a divided and distrustful society.
Is it a conspiracy or a scientific fact that large bodies of water seek level?
Is it a conspiracy or a scientific fact that you can not have gas pressure adjacent to a vacuum without a container?
'Flat earth' is a result of people thinking critically and logically, and actually applying science. Unlike the globe which is based purely on faith and theories.
@@SkemeKOS if you "can't have gas pressure adjacent to a vacuum without a contain", how do you explain the pressure gradient right here on earth?
Funny how anti-woke people suddenly support the WEF when it comes to the Earth shape
Never thought I'd see Asmon react to Hossenfelder
Been watching her for years, she's great
He’s reacted to at least one more of Sabines videos fairly recently
Probably would have to. If she only opened her mouth when she speaks. The clenched teeth is so painful and impossible to ignore.
@@ExceptBaconseems I missed it. 😱 I watch her videos almost daily.
@@alekmothshe is a smart human being and her first language isn’t English … but everything she says is fact
I'm 99% convinced flat earthers don't REALLY believe the earth is flat. They just love to argue.
well let me help you settle your uncertainty. I am a flat earther and I REALLY believe the earth is flat. There, now hopefully your 99% shrinks a bit.
@@agcrazy721the earth isn’t real
@@agcrazy721 My condolences.
@@1_underthesun Why?
@@agcrazy721did you guys develop a consistent map yet? Lol
"Humans were supposed to eat raw potatoes and die at the age of 32 due to a tooth ache" is probably the funniest thing I have heard all week. I love that.
Is that Asmon's present condition?
I mean it's so true. Humanity made it 200K years like that. Thinking everyone one of us is capable of knowing everything or at least having a trace understanding is very wishful.
Even tho this is untrue. If someone survived childhood/childbirth, most people lived into their 60s and early 70s. Other factors of course were war, famine, accidents, etc.
I almost spat out my drink driving i was rollin
@@taylemgames2652 Yep, main reason why most families back in the day tried to have 3+ children. Since if you had at least 3, that nearly guaranteed one of them survived to adulthood.
"If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" - Sam Harris
Yeah, as someone that has long-time friends that are Flat-Earthers, I came to these conclusions years ago. But Asmon puts it best: "They just don't believe it." It's all faith-based. They rather believe the smallest evidence that they can interpret to prove their argument than thousands against it.
@@joshanonline i think most of them are either proud/peer/friends/locked in closet commies and/or folks that hate/can´t stand/never tried the good old deity(ies) or those who really just don´t givv shxt whatsoever yeh only when the beer is empty
yeh those in the system ofcourse who are scared for well yeh i mean crazy shxt might happen when it all finally goes over that certain keeling over percentage
hehehh hey let it be and let it shine is what i´m sayin
Exactly. If only globe believers would stop ignoring the damning evidence against their fantasy model.
@@joshanonline That's because Asmond is a fool. Flat earth has hundreds of proofs. HUGE, undeniable proofs. Whereas the globe has zero.
Just as an easy starter -
Why don't you have any evidence of curvature? Why has it never been detected(measured)? Not even 1mm
Why can't you explain gas pressure next to a vacuum, without a container?
Why can't you demonstrate water sticking a ball?
Why can't you detect the earth rotating?
Too bad Sam Harris exposed himself as an unreasonable person recently.
I used to respect him, and that's a very good quote.
I had a flat earther friend once, and had a debate over what the sky would look like if the Sun went in circles. After I brought up several points that he could not reconcile with a flat earth, he, without joking, told me that "the sky is glitched". That it's like a projection or distorted portal to another realm, and it makes it look like the earth was round, while in reality it's flat.
Asmon is absolutely right that taking flat earthers to space wouldn't solve a thing.
Thats true, gettin em there would not solve anything... but keeping em there would xD
You do not even need to go to space. A high-flying plane would do to see some curvature.
When asked a flat earther about the curvature, he responded that the windows distort the view.
I think this proves that point.
Bro, more than 50% of people can't picture an apple in their mind if you ask them to visualize one, nor answer how they would feel if they didn't have breakfast yesterday.
Space is NASA CGI
"Rocketships to nowhere" - Donald Trump
@@Sp3rw3rhe was probably confused by your question since modern astrophysicists have already declared you won't see curvature at 100 000ft so if you think you saw it at 35 000 you must REALLY have your nose up against the window.
My alter ego is a flat earther whos never been wrong about anything.
Hollow earth > flat earth
Agreed
isn't a raging torrent of liquid hot magma with a giant hunk of metal pretty dope tho? what am I missing?
U mean like caves?
Hollow moon inside out earth
Nah man... Hollow Moon + Flat Earth all the way ❤
The Greeks worked out the Earth wasn't flat using sticks, shadows and distance, it's not difficult.
It's not a ball neither.
@@serbrighterunagainst9231bro I’ve seen it
@@serbrighterunagainst9231 not a perfect ball
Yea but you cant do that today
Actually, that's wrong. What Eratosthenes did was a measurement of circumference of the earth but the way he did that does not prove or falsify that earth is a sphere. It's a common misconception for some reason
The only good thing about flat earth is their map illustrations, it's obviously innacurate but it'd go so hard on a DnD campaign
Flat Forgotten Realms. Nice
But that would make Spelljammer a lie
The best part is they cannot make a single map that makes all of their beliefs make sense simultaneously. They have to pull out a completely different map for each explanation
It's a disk in the crystal sphere. The top of the disk is toril while the bottom is abier. Nobody reaches the other side because nobody wants to deal with aboleths. @@utrak
should try the discworld dnd campaign, wont be disappointed
I like the map of all the continents outside of the Antarctic circle.
Interestingly, it is quite easy to experience curvature, but you have to get outside and look for good spots....
Flat Earthers have proven more times that the earth is round then flat and everytime they are like "hmmm, this data says we are wrong. Lets ignore this data"
Observations alone are not science. Give independent and dependent variables in an experiment if you really want to make a point.
What's round have to do with anything?
Einstein married his own relations 🤮😬😬😬😬😬
Well yeah. It's not because flat earthers are stupid... I mean it is true that they are willfully ignorant.
It's just that scientists aren't trustworthy.
The flat earthers have arrived lmao
Dear flat earthers: get in a plane, travel in one direction, where will you end up? Back where you started. Why is there no real images of the flat earth and every image is a drawing? If there's an ice wall and it's guarded, why is there not a single video showing either the ice wall or the guards? Why can I not see the Eiffel tower by using a telescope in Australia? I know I'm wasting my time, but it feels good to give them that feeling of cognitive dissonance as they scramble to make weak excuses for why they can't admit they believe something obviously wrong.
"flat earthers has members all around the globe"
Idk is this phrase is real but it just sums up everything to me
That was a quote by the Flat Earth Society. They are pretty much a group of deceptionists formed to make people believe how stupid flat earthers are and it worked.
its real one of their goup have twitter and they said that
It is not. Its by the "Flatearth Society" which is an stupid disinformation grp.
It comes from a tweet by the Flat Earth Society, but I think this group is satirical
@@vianneyb.8776 It's not a satirical group, it's a gate-keeper group spreading disinformation.
Some people feel that their lives are so boring that they need to feel persecuted in order to feel important.
Yeah but... ARE they persecuted? Sure everyone but them thinks they're idiots, but nobody really persecutes them or tells them they're not allowed.
@@adrianstanczak1127 no, the argument is that they will openly say it in order to vomit their opinions and bogus science. They’re trying to bait you into a discussion you dont wanna have.
Most of them will actually do “research” (youtube videos) and memorize what they see and hear. Now you’re in a discussion with someone who actually has arguments that you will most likely not be able to disprove on the spot. You, as a regular person, chose to accept this “theory” because its just fucking logical and people who dedicated their lives to study the universe are telling you its true. So you most likely dont have the required evidences to prove and explain why earth is in fact, not flat.
The egyptians knew the earth is round.
3 quotes that will help you in your life.
1.Arguing with an idiot feels like running in circles. You end up exactly where you started but more exhausted.
2.The problem with arguing with idiots is that they often confuse arrogance with intelligence.
3.The moment you engage in an argument with an idiot, you've already lost. They thrive on wasted time and frustration.
FULLY! The best way to get OUT of that conversation, by changing the Subject.
SJWs, feminists, and cultists use that same principle to avoid debate. You're just scared and can't handle cognitive dissonance so you rationalise not communicating with us. When one side is unwilling to talk, the people on the fence see the side more open to talking as more reasonable, which is the flat Earthers.
Bruh. People run in circles all the time. Exercise has many benefits. Smdh
The problem is that this applies to both sides of any argument yet hubris blinds us to our own echo chambers
@@killjoyredux8361 sounds like a you problem more than anything else to be honest. While this is something that plague many people, its also quite easy to have a discussion. The exchange of ideas is not a new concept and has been around for thousands of years.
If you’re having a discussion with someone with the intent of sticking to your guns regardless of the evidence presented to you, thats your problem.
21:59
“This (flat earth) is a GLOBAL conspiracy”
Lmao 😂😂😂 Indeed
Can’t believe Asmon is a woke round earther, smh
He’s not voting for Trump either, smh
Globehead
Tesla stated that gravity does not exist, I guess he doesn't beleive in AC, radio waves nor the "wireless world" vision of Tesla... or does he?
Tesla said there is no gravity
@@hyruler036brother. Look at your username. Are you okay?
Flat earth people are the type of people that if they went to space they would say the windows on the rocket are tv screens.
I once met a guy who said he was a flat earther (I don't even know why he brought it up), but that also he was writing a science fiction story in which the planet was round. People are special, that's for sure.
My theory is that flat-earthers are so aggressive about their beliefs and so unlikely to change them because they're desperate to be right about something that nobody else is. It would mean that for the first time in their lives, they're the smart one and everyone else is the idiot.
A flat earther, a vegan and a keto pro enter a bar.
Literally main character syndrome. People are so fucking bored and so mind-warped into desperately wanting something "cool" to be real (like a fantasy movie). They think they're special and the whole "I'm right, everyone else is wrong". Like you know that cartoon with the big crowd of people, and there's one guy standing alone saying "yes, you're actually all wrong". SO MANY PEOPLE fall for that shit. It's unreal.
They all believed the Globe before they have seen the truth. No one of them wanted it, but they would rather accept the truth than to live in a lie.
Aggressive? How?
Yeah how are they aggressive?
"Wizard's First Rule: people are stupid."
"People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People's heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool." - Wizard's First Rule
And humility is important. Even if we don't believe something as glaringly incorrect as flat earth, we all have delusional and ignorant beliefs.
Great book by a great author.
Strange, would have said a horrendous book by a narcissistic hack
@@andya4528the one good book of the series
@@jbfwinningsame, but Wizards first rule wasn't too bad by itself.
All that's needed is basic critical thinking skills and the willingness to accept that experts are experts for a reason. The ability to accept that a consensus among experts CAN BE TRUSTED is the baseline of intelligence required by modern society.
Well the "experts" have been wrong countless of times, just take covid for example. Or something like the Lipid hypothesis. Also many times there is a percieved consensus of experts presented in the media, but in reality researchers might disagree on many things (for example how much humans contribute to the warming of the planet). But publicly going against official narratives might destroy your career.
So some people see this, and instead of thinking critically about each topic, they jump to the conclusion that "it's all a lie", even if it makes no sense, like with flat earth.
@@Tomiro-1984 Countless times? lol no. There is widely varying research on many topics like lipid hypothesis... but that's why I said the word "consensus". When a consensus of the scientific community agrees on something... a non expert logically MUST defer to the experts. Experts challenging experts is something ENTIRELY different... That's what science is. But when it comes to the general population... they must defer to the scientific consensus. You are correct that the media does tend to simplify certain topics to a point where they can be easily misunderstood. For instance... Climate Change = real... average increase of the planets surface temperature has been proven. Human caused increase of CO2 in the atmosphere = real... there has been an enormous measurable increase in atmospheric CO2 since the beginning of the industrial age. Where the discussion lies is in correlation vs causation. But intelligent people (like yourself) would have to agree... humans changing the composition of the atmosphere probably isn't a good thing... regardless of whether or not you think it's affecting the speed of climate change.
Also, tell me how SPECIFICALLY the experts were wrong on COVID... and I'll tell you how you have no idea what you are talking about.
@jasonluvisi
"Countless times? lol no. "
Asbestos, DDT, Mercury, Early versions of hormonal treatment for women, Lobotomy. Just a few thing of the top of my head.
"That's what science is. But when it comes to the general population... they must defer to the scientific consensus"
Must. That is a strong word, but ok. As I said, we don't always know if there actually is a consensus, unless we go through everything that's been published, but that is not realistic for most people or every topic. Of course we can and do extrapolate based on previous experience for better or for worse.
"Where the discussion lies is in correlation vs causation"
Or to what degree excess CO2 impacts temperature. Some pretty radical "green" policies are being made on the assumption that this is a catastrophy. Meanwhile there are a lot of other real problems potentially facing our planet that we almost completely ignore for some reason.
"Also, tell me how SPECIFICALLY the experts were wrong on COVID... and I'll tell you how you have no idea what you are talking about. "
Not all experts, but a lot of politics (and money) were involved, so we heard a very one sided story, perhaps void of actual experts, where it was decided in advance that future vaccines (never before managed to make a successful vaccine against a coronavirus) were the way out, and nothing else could work, and alternatives were being suppressed or ridiculed even before we had a vaccine. There are lots of interesting new papers coming out if you happend ot be interested. I could go into detail, but since you just said how you'll respond, I'm good.
When the Dinosaurus flew off I laughed so hard I almost pissed myself.
Imagine how far they would fly if they got twisted by the Globe xD
The flat earther X account tweeted "Flat Earthers have members all over the GLOBE!"
yes, they actually used globe...
That's not an incorrect or irreconcilable usage if you know basic context. Flat-Earthers are dumb as bricks, but don't feed into bad faith snipes, it just gives them ammo if one of them is smart enough to recognize and deconstruct it.
😂 Dam
I'm pretty sure that was back when the whole thing was just a joke. Before cult leaders started making money off their gullible followers. If was promoted for a while because it makes other conspiracies look dumb
Ive never understood why the idea earth is round could be that unbelievable. Every object visible in the sky is a globe…
^thanks for the laugh
No, It's a disk :D
You see, some of them think that only earth is a disk and all other planets are globes. Others think all planets are disks, and every other planet is constantly rotating in such a way that they always point towards earth, making them look round at all times. I guess in this theory, earth is the centre of the universe? Point is, they can't come to a consensus.
@@Saandy_ The idea they're disks pointing towards us his hilarious, you can literally see them spinning as globes. What a sad world.
@@Metallijosh100 Especially something like Jupiter. It even has a bigger-than-earth size spot that you can use as a literal point of reference to see that it is rotating.
As far as science and religion go, religion is a belief/faith making it impossible to prove/disprove. Its the equivalent of telling someone else how they feel. As far as science goes it is also a faith/belief thats guided by fundamentals that are understood by the general consensus. That being said science can also change unlike religion which stays stagnant in its fundamentals. Science is what we understand it to be at the time and new discoveries happen every day and it evolves.
True, but the science that confirms the shape of Earth will never change. Just clarifying. :)
Religion can be proven false. Spirituality can’t. We can say without any shadow of a doubt that the god of the bible not only does not exist - but cannot exist, and the bible itself proves this.
Its hard to have discussions with flat earthers as a HAM radio guy, because as soon as you explain beyond line-of-sight radio communications they shut down. And they cant justify why VHF and UHF communications dont go as far as HF, because they cant get past the hurdle of the earth being round.
the fact the states and Europe has had transatlantic communication since what-- the 20s-- and VHF and UHF just cant.
I imagine that must be frustrating for you whenever you're in that situation.
Why do you need curvature to send HAM radio signals further than it it was a level ground? 😂😂😂😂
Insanity
@@effigy42 lol the total lack of awareness about your lack of information
I like the conspiracy that flat earth is in fact a conspiracy to discredit other conspiracies
that's exactly what it is, and it worked
I don't think relating two totally different conspiracies is a good way to _seriously_ go about things.
When there are ACTUAL conspiracies that has to be revealed, junk ones like flat-earth make me think of it as a DOUBLE conspiracy (like a cover up kind to lure you away from real damaging conspiracies). Which is ironic since the meat of it points to a distrust in authority which, let's be real here, doesn't need flat-earth to start with.
Seems much like this. there is a lot of true facts that people are mixing btween some crazy stuff....
We know that some big indutrial corps pay some idiots to protest againts the pollution and climate change in very dumb ways.
Tha was to make people get a bad opnion about the topic and don't listen when someome say about it. soo is very likely i think is a tatic some powerfull dudes are using and is working very weell.
The sky is blue so that is why the grass is red... and vo a lá people think the sky can't not be blue now!
The flat earth scene is full of ex military reservists so yeah of course it's a psyop 🙄
"It doesn't sound crazy if you're stupid." Well said.
Major L redditor take on religion from Asmongold here. Lost a ton of respect.
What, you think you have 500 testimonies too? :))
@irrelevant_noob Huh?
@@Logan_93 how would you miss the bit at 27:25, that's where the "take on religion" was at...
@@irrelevant_noob I didn't miss it. I just didn't remember what you were referencing. My bad. This comment is almost a month old.
What people don't understand is they think a theory is a guess. In science that's absolutely not true. A hypothesis is a guess. A theory is formed when dozens, if not hundreds, of hypothesis' are found to to be accurate. In science a theory is the closest thing we'll ever get to a fact.
There are laws… gravity is not a theory. The laws of thermodynamics are not theories. They are scientific laws. There can be several scientific theories about a particular phenomena whereas a law represents a single unified agreement among all scientists.
@@beginninglastleg4444 gravity doesn't exist. gravity is a macrocosmic unicorn theory that cannot be proven and exists totally outside the realm of all science forever.
Birds arent real is the coolest thing ive heard ina long time
That's my favorite one.
Their heads move so robotic 😆
Government surveillance drones
Where have you been? This has been a thing since like 2012 lol
When I heard this one, I laughed so hard. I didn’t believe that was an actual conspiracy theory.
Wait until people find out the United Nations logo is the flat Earth map.
I thought that it was the F.O.W.L. map from Dark Wing Duck.
@@AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan "Let's get dangerous." Oh, no, look what you made me do.
I had to google this to make sure. That is actually hilarious.
For a strange reason airplane flight routes work only on that map.
oh i did see this as a supporting evidence for their flat earth theory awhile back
I love how everyone calls stupid... Very smart people believe the earth isn't a ball. Even niel tyson said its not round, then said it's bulged at the middle. The stupid people are the ones who just believe what they are told. The powers that be don't like people who think outside the box.
It's not a belief, it's been measured. The geoid shape is not perfectly spherical, but it is still round, so what?
I met my first flat earther the last few months. Took me awhile to understand what she meant by a "dome" over the planet, and she keeps talking about how Elon Musk keeps sending rockets and it hits the dome but it doesn't get damaged by hitting the dome, but the important thing is that it's impossible to break through the dome. At least if you are using rockets, which aren't really well known for being super sturdy and capable of smashing through things, since making something sturdy adds weight. What about explosive missiles? She thinks that's a great idea and she wonders why no one ever thought about that, and I'm a genious for coming up with it.
The moon isn't real. It's an image that a secret organization projects onto the wall of the dome, or "firmament" as she now calls it (changing language to make it sound less crazy). Where does the light come from? That's a great question. She doesn't know. Can we send scientists to study the dome? No it's too high, and people fall unconscious when they get near the dome. What about robots. No, no, no, the connection with the robots cuts off and so that doesn't work at all...
She. Is. Insane. And she is constantly trying to convince me, and anyone else that will listen, of her whackjob conspires. She's also constantly getting sucked into any money making scheme. We got some magical stock market that you just need to give 200$ and they garuntee massive returns and it's funded by Elong Musk because he just wants the working man to make money. We got mobile games that if she could only pass level 2 would give her 10k. We got some sort of virtual earth where you can buy the virtual land and then you own the physical property, meaning you don't actually own your own home unless you buy the land on this game. It's just one thing after another.
Sadly, some people go so far down the rabbit hole that they get lost. Have you ever heard of the crazy / hot, bow chicka bow wow chart?
It's the hot / crazy matrix 😂
Seems like you found an Asylum escapee
@@AndSaveAsManyAsYouCan If she was hot, I be fine ignoring the crazy, because it's not a kind of crazy that I find either dangerous or offensive. It's just crazy conspricy anti-establishment nonsense.
Oh, and she's not religous.
It sounds like these people are stuck in the Truman Show.
flatearth is wild.. BUT HAVE YOU HEARD OF "SPACE IS FAKE".....
Prove space, as is described by mainstream 'science' is real.
Go!
same thing bruh
the only think that is flat is space
@@SkemeKOS See Dwayne Kellum's balloon flight videos showing the lack of pressure and atmosphere at height, as well as the curvature of the globe.
@@jetlag133why can space be flat which is scientifically way more insane than earth being flat? Yet people blindly accept it because or school and tv…
With a quick google "The earliest clear documentation of the idea of a spherical Earth comes from the ancient Greeks (5th century BC). The belief was widespread in the Greek world when Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of Earth around 240 BC." Sabine has an awesome channel, amazing to see you give her some love!
17:15 Yeah, that's when you admit they're right and let them walk out the airlock.
The ancient egyptian mathematician Ptomely wrote that the Earth was likely round due to all known evidence. He was big into geometry and astronomy.
he was hardly ancient egyptian, given that he lived during a time when the romans controlled egypt and was in time closer to us than to the builders of the great pyramids. Although the fundemental point of your argument still stands. People 2000 years ago understood that the earth was round.
"it doesn't sound crazy if you are stupid" THAT IS THE BEST SENTENCE EVER
If the earth is round how come when I talk to my friends in Australia they aren’t upside down in the zoom video?
because australia doesn't exist so does your friend
Because their camera is also upside down, duh! Your screen just flips it. Software 😂
Because Australia doesn't follow the curve of the sphere, it sticks out to the side so it's level and flat like every land mass.
If you censor someone, then you are scared of what they are saying. If you are scared, then it holds truth.
You just described every fe channel out there...
That would explain why I got banned from the FE discord after the mod started screaming at me.
Good times.
RUclips adding a "for context" wikipedia article about how flat earth is nonsense unironically gives it legitimacy 🙄
"I think thou doth protest too much" comes to mind haha
How?
@@GuardianSoulkeeperthose “for context” are fake and used to push the mainstream narrative. Everyone knows google and RUclips can’t be trusted. They put those up to convince people that the subject in the video has been disproven.
@@GuardianSoulkeeper He is saying that from the perspective of a flat earther, it gives it more legitimacy, because to them the powers that be are trying to suppress it as if it proves their point. It also gives the topic more attention and thus the perceived legitimacy. The Idea is that by addressing it directly, it might imply that Flat earth is a significant enough topic to warrant an official rebuttal. Essentially... talking about fringe theory elevates its status by making it look like a valid subject to debate.
SHE IS PROPAGANDA. THE SUN AND UP AND DOWN. RISE AND SUNSET. WOW THIS IS JUST TO CALL PEOPLE DUMB. SO YOU FEAR BEING CALLED DUMB.
My elderly father asked me a while back: 'if the Earth is spinning at 5,000 miles-per-hour, how does all the water in the oceans not spin off into space?' All I could do was look at him in shock.
I'd have a far better life now at almost 50 if I hadn't listened to any of his advice as I was growing up. When you're a kid looking for guidance you are relying on your parent to set you in the right direction. It's a lottery. He may have had some of that passed to him, so he thought that was how to raise a kid, but that doesn't help me much.
you should ask him if the train is running at 50miles per hour then why he didn't fall down when he was standing
A lack of knowledge makes you think he was completely brainless and no good advice to give.
That's a very ignorant and ridiculous mind set to have
so, you couldn't answer
@@samiuya1948 It's my elderly dad. I don't want to mock him. I still love him.
@@durbledurb3992 its not mock...... just try to help him understand easily
"It doesn't sound crazy if you're stupid" man, so good.
it falls off the basketball bc the basketball is not 196.9 million square miles like earth to generate enough gravity!!! XD
I understand our ancestors thinking the earth being flat. But not us.
Chemtrail folks have absolutely lost the plot too. 99% won't get back out of that rabbit hole.
@TriIIiian 🤣
@TriIIiian I think my dad's in there
Wish me luck! :/
There's worse things. You could be tricked to chopping off your ___'s.
1:56 This is a fact.
"Those who believe without reason cannot be convinced by reason." -James Randi (A legend)
"Round earthers" aka people who aren't stupid.
Flat earthers are proof of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
💯
Do you have 1 real image of Earth being a ball from outer space that is not a cartoon?
@@leocrow1919 lol, just say you don’t understand math or physics.
Can you show me a model in which our day/night cycle works on a flat earth? No, you sure can’t😂
@@leocrow1919 no one claims it’s a “ball”. Sphere doesn’t mean ball, lol. The fact you can’t differentiate that difference says a lot and the fact you use that word(making your argument a strawman) like it’s some sort of gotcha is WILDLY telling.
@@leocrow1919 earthrise, taken by Apollo 8 while orbiting the moon. There's your image, just search "earthrise". But we all know you'll just say it's fake anyway along with all the other footage from space.
The earth is a sphere! Obviously. It has to be, because it's hollow, and Agartha and the Giants wouldn't fit in a flat disk, don't be stupid. Geez.
Are you serious
yeh it would in a thick flat disc and glass topf
@@joeharm8141 Of course not. The sarcasm should be obvious.
I remember when I first stumbled across the flat earth society website back before it had really blown up and became part of the social zeitgeist. I took it as a tongue in cheek way of criticism of most people's propensity to accept 2nd and 3rd hand assertions as irrefutable fact, something which I am 100% behind.
However, I've personally experienced witnessing the curvature of the earth. I worked on a seafaring tugboat that hauled a barge in the Gulf of Mexico. Our radar would show ships that weren't visible in the wheel house, but if you climbed up to the pilot house about 80 feet above the water line, you could see them. I watched ships and oil rigs pass from visible to the naked eye in the wheel house, to needing binoculars in the wheel house, to needing binoculars in the pilot house, to seeing only their upper structures past the sea, to not visible because of the horizon.
Personally, I find the dogmatic acceptance of 2nd and 3rd hand information as inarguable fact scary.
There's one problem when it comes to your last sentence. There is no way everyone could or should spend the time and resources needed to prove each and every scientific idea for themselves. If that were the case, I wouldn't be able to believe in anything. I can look up what water is made out of, but if I followed your idea in your last sentence, I can't believe that it is one oxygen atom and two hydrogen atoms, because there's no way for me to prove it for myself.
I have no problem with people taking 2nd and 3rd hand information as fact. No problem with that at all. As both the response and original video said, there's too much information to not do that. Inarguable fact. That's the problem. When what some guy on the internet told you means that you'll ignore the data of your own eyes, what your own sensitive scientific instruments say, what 300,000,000 other people - all far more educated than that guy on the internet - have to say, and what all common sense says, and actively disbelieve thousands of photographs, that's a problem.
I think people just need to be really careful about the source of second and third hand data. You need to apply discernment. How many other things has this person been right about. Is there anyway to conduct a sniff test on the data even of you can't analyze it completely?
@@tobias_dahlberg thats not a problem at all, because you dont need to prove things personally, you know that if physics didnt work they way they told us, nothing would work. Trains wouldnt work, phones wouldnt work, the internet wouldnt exist, satellites wouldnt exist, etc You know its true just because of the fact that your washing machine works properly. And if you doubt that, you can become an expert on washing machines and be able to repair them and dismantle them, and that would be enough to prove that the earth is round. Its that simple. Dont believe in round earth? Dismantle a fucking phone and learn how it works. When you realize it works exactly as everyone has ever told you and there are no lies, you will realize thats the proof of round earth
I to once visited Jamaica and could see cuba. Care to explain? There are TONS of videos as well. Guess real life experiences are irrelevant because youtube said so and that was free I just looked with my eyes.
I used to be flat rather. The trick is not to double down on anything. When you double down on a false belief, it's hard to get out. Being open minded it's key. Weather its wrong or right. Like when they tell u test everything wven the simple tests. They probably dont teach it in a school no more.
Wow, I'm proud of you. You managed to actually do what most flerfs can't. You were willing to accept you might be wrong. Good on you for escaping the cult!
People try to shame me for not voting, but I know I'm dumb and I don't understand this shit. Every time I was forced to vote, I just chose whoever had the coolest name because I don't know these people and I don't understand what they stand for.
I don't vote on survivor either it's the illusion of choice.
People want you to believe that doing nothing is the worst thing you can do, but choosing to do nothing is a choice you can decide is in some situations the best decision.
The atmosphere of Earth is not carbonated.
So technically it IS flat.
🤣
I forgot about this one, but I thought it was the bodies of water that weren't carbonated.
👈🏻👈🏻😏
I think the main point of this belief is that we shouldn't just take other people's words for things. It encourages critical thinking and emphasizes the importance of doing your own research to develop your own conclusions, something that is often lacking in today's society.
So why only flat earth? Why not ANY other scientific statement? These people decided that that a stance (flat earth) with less proof, hinging on a thousand year conspirace involving the entire population on the earth, and that goes against everything we so far know about reality, is someehow more worth believing than common science.
That's not critical thinking, that's mental brain damage.
@@zogwort1522 wow someone that actual reads in a youtube comment section. Insane.
Are you gonna aswer?
100% disagree. This belief exist because flat earthers are science deniers who have a distrust in governments ( for no solid reasons)… in which eventually the argument revolves back around to them defending their religious beliefs and their interpretation of what they think religious text says. Zero critical thinking involved as their only stance is just to deny all evidence for a globe
Honestly I’m in the middle, when I search into sacred geometry and intelligent design. Water knowing what you’re talking about etc… I realize all things are not an accident.
The Earth is not flat bro. You can re-create a model of the Sun Moon and Earth, and easily re-create eclipses, sunsets, the two distinct polar patterns, etc.
But if you create a model of the flat Earth, none of those things will work out, unless you literally make up all new magical rules of physics that are super contrived, and also never observed in real life anywhere.
@ I’m just saying we’re not fully being told what the world is. I don’t even know how you missed that middle ground.
@@jakdexter2075 The Earth is very clearly a round globe. There is nothing being hidden about the shape of the globe. This is not something you can fake in a movie studio, like the Moon landing or Godzilla movies.
@@jakdexter2075 It is no middle ground. You have facts and you have stupidity.
@@justinmadrid8712 Did you miss the part where the guy was talking about sacred geometry, intelligent design and "water knowing what you're talking about". This guys a fruit loop you're wasting your time.
The whole thing about flat earth coming from a complete and total distrust in authorities and everything is so true. I know a flat earther irl and that's pretty much their whole reason. And yeah, they also believe in a bunch of other conspiracy theories etc.
"It doesn't sound crazy if you're stupid." Nailed it.
Interest in Flat Earth as far as YT and other video platforms are concerned probably has a lot to do with the anti-Flerf channels that are enjoying a lot of popularity also.
*When the next generation of scientists and engineers start terraforming and colonizing other planets, guess who's going to be left behind.*
Holy cope man, even if that somehow happens you'll be long dead
whyte ppl
But i thought colonization was bad?
You think we're getting off this rock? 😂
@@TGTDestiny not if no one lives there
Now the Moon Landings with 1960s technology is insane 😅