*What happens if the steel Spacely Sprockets fail while engaged inside the aluminum Cogswell Cog hub motor casing? The nylon Getrag Gears strip and break away leaving the hub motor in a state where it can be cleaned out, re-geared, and back in service within a couple of hours. With the steel Spacely Sprockets you're gonna need a complete new Jetson hub motor assembly.*
I don't think the outer ring gear is aluminium tbh, it's probably harder than the cast iron/mild steel billet he used to cut the gears. I think others have good reliability with soft metal gears. Lasts a lot longer as an over package in the rough terrain of the sub continent.
@@oneman29 *The bicycle wheel "hub" I'm pretty sure is aluminum. The inside of the the wheel hub has "teeth" that the four "sprockets" ride in. He talks about removing the four nylon gears and replacing them with steel gears. The aluminum was stronger than the nylon gears but not as strong as the steel gears. Those steel gears will chew the aluminum wheel hub up if they fail.*
@@charliesgrumma5388 it's steel. I have rust around the area where the bearing is. If it was aluminum it wouldn't rust. Therefore, the hub casing that has teeth which latch into the planetary gears are steel.
Its Mindbreaking, how someone with such steel working skills does not know, the gears NEED to be nylon, to prevent damage to the case. Just buy new ones for 4$ each every 1-2 Years.
@@RandomClips27. what motor? im currently on geared motor with default nylon planetary geras inside with controller 48v 22a max and 11a continuous, im thinking to put steel planetary gearings inside and put on controller with 30a max/15a continuous, would that work, is that what you have done and it works fine for 5years now?
In my case outer gear hardness 50-55 hrc & other gear non hardness ms metal. How to damage outer gear. If damage outer gear i can change it. It's also removeble.
...... Make them in brass and you're in business, any metal gears will be louder than the nylon ones, but brass will not wear out the ring gear in the hub shell.
Yeah , well , you can change the nylon gears and the motor will run . Those steel ones will do for a while , but they will chew up the teeth on the hull . That means buying a new wheel later on 😑.
I looked real hard and finally found a planetary gear box with steel, instead of nylon, gears. So go figure! I'm building my own set up so maybe i can avoid the problems with steel mentioned here.
Hug gear motor ke liye jo lag ke aate hai wohi best gears hote hai.. Agr unme metal gears lgaya jaaye to hub me jo outer frame me aluminum ke teeth hote hai wo ghis jayenge aur pura moter hi bekar ho jayega.. Isliye gears khrab hone pe ya ghisne pe unko change kr skte hai..
Outer frame me Aluminium ka teeth nahi hote, metal ka ring with hardness wala gear hota hai sir ji, hardness (50/55 hrc) gear k sath agar non hardness metal ka gear lagaya jaye to non hardness wala gear sab se pehle kharab hoga. Our aap ko pata hoga metal ka without hard wala gear kharab hone ko minimum 10 years to lag hi jaye ga. Thank you.
Hey, can you hook up a center lock disk adapter to the gear hub clutch for me? Someone did something similar. It is a good way to have regen without losing the freewheeling
To anyone saying it won't last or will be louder its not true I upgraded mine 5 years ago still going fine and with a 52v battery and 1500w controller and sounds the same
Definitely the metal gears will be louder, probably loud enough to be distracting to the rider. I wish the eBike hub motors used quiet spiral or helical cut gears instead of loud (but efficient) straight cut spur gears.
How is it holding up today? Did the teeth strip from inside the hub wall? Because the reason they use plastic gears is so the gears can damage and it cost less to replace rather then the internal teeth in the hub. It will cost more.
I tried metal the noise and stress. Re fitted new nylon and clutch so quiet and smooth. Won't be using metal that noise wasn't healthy my bafang is 12 years old and has done 1000s of miles. Over charged high speed pushed 54v but happy back at 36v
You upgrade to brass, not steel. Those are going to shred the outer casing ring gear. You won't need planetary gears after that. You'll need a new motor.
@@audacityhour3104 It probably is brass, or at least some other similar alloy, as trying to machine pure copper is more difficult. You should be fine with those. Match your gear width, height, and tooth count.
@@audacityhour3104 What makes steel so bad, is that it's like putting a machinist cutting tool into contact with the softer aluminum of your hub motor. Guess the one that will win.
@@audacityhour3104 I'm working with Bafang (8-fun) BLDC hub motors. The outer case IS the ring gear. 😂 But this is good, because being in contact with outside air allows them to cool very well. Whatever your setup, you wouldn't want steel riding steel, as this causes [Fe] bits wear off and get stuck between magnets and stator or sensors. Non-[Fe] type metals won't do this. Plus they will conduct heat, instead of holding heat. Last, you will want to remove old grease, and replace with an all-weather aircraft grease. It will stay where you put it and not become stiff in cold.
@@ahmadzaki3328 if you're actually looking at swapping to metal gears though you need to look into getting proper lubricant for the motor because pure metal gears will cause more damage to the motor in the long run due to metal shavings. There's a reason why there are nylon gears. It's all a trade off and it depends on what your end goals are though because metal gears will transmit torque way better than nylon gears will but from a longevity standpoint nylon gears will cause less damage to the actual motor itself then metal gears will
Bhai same esa hi fiber ka 3set vala mera gear fail ho chuka he viklang ko jo battery vali cycle aati he vo he esa bana doge kya or please give your number
Мужик, проще поменять будет пластиковые шестерни, чем весь корпус движка когда зубцы внутри сотрутся) Их не просто так сделали пластиковые, для лёгкой замены)
*What happens if the steel Spacely Sprockets fail while engaged inside the aluminum Cogswell Cog hub motor casing? The nylon Getrag Gears strip and break away leaving the hub motor in a state where it can be cleaned out, re-geared, and back in service within a couple of hours. With the steel Spacely Sprockets you're gonna need a complete new Jetson hub motor assembly.*
I don't think the outer ring gear is aluminium tbh, it's probably harder than the cast iron/mild steel billet he used to cut the gears. I think others have good reliability with soft metal gears. Lasts a lot longer as an over package in the rough terrain of the sub continent.
@@oneman29 *The bicycle wheel "hub" I'm pretty sure is aluminum. The inside of the the wheel hub has "teeth" that the four "sprockets" ride in. He talks about removing the four nylon gears and replacing them with steel gears. The aluminum was stronger than the nylon gears but not as strong as the steel gears. Those steel gears will chew the aluminum wheel hub up if they fail.*
I upgraded mine 5 years ago still going fine and with a 52v battery and 1500w controller and sounds the same.
@@RandomClips27. the steel gears don't damage my engine then ?
@@charliesgrumma5388 it's steel. I have rust around the area where the bearing is. If it was aluminum it wouldn't rust. Therefore, the hub casing that has teeth which latch into the planetary gears are steel.
Its Mindbreaking, how someone with such steel working skills does not know, the gears NEED to be nylon, to prevent damage to the case. Just buy new ones for 4$ each every 1-2 Years.
I upgraded mine 5 years ago still going fine and with a 52v battery and 1500w controller and sounds the same
I know right ?? Its " stupidity " in its purest form .
@@RandomClips27. what motor? im currently on geared motor with default nylon planetary geras inside with controller 48v 22a max and 11a continuous, im thinking to put steel planetary gearings inside and put on controller with 30a max/15a continuous, would that work, is that what you have done and it works fine for 5years now?
In my case outer gear hardness 50-55 hrc & other gear non hardness ms metal. How to damage outer gear. If damage outer gear i can change it. It's also removeble.
...... Make them in brass and you're in business, any metal gears will be louder than the nylon ones, but brass will not wear out the ring gear in the hub shell.
Good idea.
I upgraded mine 5 years ago still going fine and with a 52v battery and 1500w controller and sounds the same
I was thinking brass too lol :P
What about copper?
I found copper
Where did you find brass?
I did a whole video on them.Nylon gears most of them where chewed up and melted from the heat and performance of the motor
Yeah , well , you can change the nylon gears and the motor will run .
Those steel ones will do for a while , but they will chew up the teeth on the hull . That means buying a new wheel later on 😑.
I looked real hard and finally found a planetary gear box with steel, instead of nylon, gears. So go figure! I'm building my own set up so maybe i can avoid the problems with steel mentioned here.
Hug gear motor ke liye jo lag ke aate hai wohi best gears hote hai..
Agr unme metal gears lgaya jaaye to hub me jo outer frame me aluminum ke teeth hote hai wo ghis jayenge aur pura moter hi bekar ho jayega..
Isliye gears khrab hone pe ya ghisne pe unko change kr skte hai..
Outer frame me Aluminium ka teeth nahi hote, metal ka ring with hardness wala gear hota hai sir ji, hardness (50/55 hrc) gear k sath agar non hardness metal ka gear lagaya jaye to non hardness wala gear sab se pehle kharab hoga. Our aap ko pata hoga metal ka without hard wala gear kharab hone ko minimum 10 years to lag hi jaye ga. Thank you.
There's a reason the gears are nylon.
Osam video
Hey, can you hook up a center lock disk adapter to the gear hub clutch for me? Someone did something similar. It is a good way to have regen without losing the freewheeling
If a failure occurs, everything will be damaged, including the housing. If the nylon gear is damaged, just replace the nylon gear
Mai bihar se hu
To anyone saying it won't last or will be louder its not true I upgraded mine 5 years ago still going fine and with a 52v battery and 1500w controller and sounds the same
Nice Sir
I kinda feel like the nylon gears flex allowing the motor to jar less and last longer?
Last longer? Nope
Definitely the metal gears will be louder, probably loud enough to be distracting to the rider. I wish the eBike hub motors used quiet spiral or helical cut gears instead of loud (but efficient) straight cut spur gears.
I upgraded mine 5 years ago still going fine and with a 52v battery and 1500w controller and sounds the same
How is it holding up today? Did the teeth strip from inside the hub wall? Because the reason they use plastic gears is so the gears can damage and it cost less to replace rather then the internal teeth in the hub. It will cost more.
Is the outer ring you're greasing at the end, a steel gear ring pressed into the hub or is yours plastic or machined into the hub?
Sir ji ...ye gear mujhey bhi chahiye...
Aap sey contay kaisey karey...??
Very good vy .. Lekin nylons gears ku life metallic gear se kam hai lekin long life motor ki outer gear ko save rahane k liye nylons gears best hy 👍
Sir g gear me oil vagera dala jata hai kya awaj krne lg gyi hai moter
Metal gears will damage the axle gear and the case teeth as well.
I tried metal the noise and stress. Re fitted new nylon and clutch so quiet and smooth. Won't be using metal that noise wasn't healthy my bafang is 12 years old and has done 1000s of miles. Over charged high speed pushed 54v but happy back at 36v
Is the gears still working? Thanks for sharing!!!
Yes sir.
Sar iski Garari Jo Banai hai aapke kya thinking ke kya Moti kya Badli Kaise Kaisa size ke bata sakte hain Sar please bahut argent hai
Aap ko kitna teeth ka gear chahiye?
Metal gear me Sounds ayega Kiya? Sir please
Lite sound ayega.
How do I unscrew my seized up bolts??
Use wd40 overnight
Metal. Gear. Price. Sir
আমার নইলন Gear দরকার, কোথায় পাওয়া যাবে ? কলকাতায় , দোকানের নাম জানতে চাই ।
Dada gear pele janaben kolkatar kothay paowa jabe
Please check Amazon
Quanto fica pra fazer engrenagem metálica 26 dente ,? Você faz. Pra vender ?
with so much skill, can you forge the hub please, then it will stay forever.
No sir using outer gear hardness 50-55 hrc & other gear ms metal no hardness.
You upgrade to brass, not steel. Those are going to shred the outer casing ring gear. You won't need planetary gears after that. You'll need a new motor.
@@audacityhour3104 It probably is brass, or at least some other similar alloy, as trying to machine pure copper is more difficult. You should be fine with those. Match your gear width, height, and tooth count.
@@audacityhour3104 What makes steel so bad, is that it's like putting a machinist cutting tool into contact with the softer aluminum of your hub motor. Guess the one that will win.
@@audacityhour3104 I'm working with Bafang (8-fun) BLDC hub motors. The outer case IS the ring gear. 😂 But this is good, because being in contact with outside air allows them to cool very well. Whatever your setup, you wouldn't want steel riding steel, as this causes [Fe] bits wear off and get stuck between magnets and stator or sensors. Non-[Fe] type metals won't do this. Plus they will conduct heat, instead of holding heat. Last, you will want to remove old grease, and replace with an all-weather aircraft grease. It will stay where you put it and not become stiff in cold.
Outer casing gear hardness 50-55 hrc . Others gear hardness maximum 20 hrc. How to damage outer casing gear?
@@ajaymixup4396 Bafang (8-fun) outer gear is aluminium. Steel cuts aluminium. Case closed!
Metal gear available? Price
Mill Jaye ja sir ji bananeko costly girta hai.
Dhur miya,ai koihi video hoya keya.
Asli kahini nahi dakhaya tumne.
What ,,,no test ride...??
Gear milega
Yes
Sir metal gear Kahan se kharide
Bana ke lena padega.
Readymade nahi milega.
Sir mujhe bhi jarurat hai iski Kya aap bechte hai
I don't understand Spanish that well.
Quanto voce cobra pra fazer uma engrenagem 26 dente
Sir ye bearing mujhe chahiye..Sir mujhe se mil sakti he metal ki to kitne Price mein
Kitna teeth ka gear hai aap ka?
vi ami achi
What about sparks
আমার 28 teeth gear দরকার, কত দাম?
Photo bhej do muje bhai
Dada gear peyechen?
@@subhothakur1117 হাঁ অনেক দিন আগে সেই সময় alixpress থেকে কিনেছি, প্রায় 600 টাকা পড়েছে |
@@sumankumarmaiti118 apni ki vabe order diyechen r payment korechen ki vabe
Sir buffing donkey kit main bhi gear box hota hai kiya
Yes
Sir. This. Type. Hub. Motor. Metal. Gear. Avail
Yes
How. Much. Price. Sir
@@girijasudhakaran8760 it's depend on your gear size & number of teeth.
36. Theeth. @@ajaymixup4396
So this isn't sold somewhere?
You can buy them preassembled on eBay for like $20
@@halo3pownage the ones on Ebay aren't metal
@@ahmadzaki3328 the price ranges from $20 for the gears alone to $32 for the clutch assembly with metal gears prepressed on
@@ahmadzaki3328 if you're actually looking at swapping to metal gears though you need to look into getting proper lubricant for the motor because pure metal gears will cause more damage to the motor in the long run due to metal shavings. There's a reason why there are nylon gears. It's all a trade off and it depends on what your end goals are though because metal gears will transmit torque way better than nylon gears will but from a longevity standpoint nylon gears will cause less damage to the actual motor itself then metal gears will
Bhai AP bana kar de skte ho kya
Yes
Sir gear chayiye contact no
Are they attracted to coils' magnetism?
No
Phone nomber milega
Please call me I need 3 pieces ,30teeth urgent hai ?
Your mobile no
Bhai same esa hi fiber ka 3set vala mera gear fail ho chuka he viklang ko jo battery vali cycle aati he vo he esa bana doge kya or please give your number
Ban jaye ga sir ji aap aap ka gear mere pas corrier kor do same gear metal me ban jaye ga
Aap apna Address or mobile number di jiye
प्लीज आपका कॉन्टॅक्ट नंबर मिल सकता है क्या
Мужик, проще поменять будет пластиковые шестерни, чем весь корпус движка когда зубцы внутри сотрутся)
Их не просто так сделали пластиковые, для лёгкой замены)
Is the gears still working? Thanks for sharing!!!
Yes 👍