Playing Gief in mvc2 takes a person that’s built different, man. Like that’s a character that almost no one would gravitate to in a game like that. I love it when players go against the grain.
It also makes them so much harder to defeat, because there's so little experience fighting people who are actually GREAT at playing them. To say nothing of the lack of data online, compared to so many others frequently
@@Pax_Mayn3its pretty obvious. In a game where the meta is essentially zoning/8 way airdashers backed by powerful assists picking a grappler point is hard mode.
Dang, this player is nuts. He got all the techs and answers in those matches. Pretty awesome seeing other characters in MvC2 being used at this level too.
Mugai is a beast, this Gief is great to watch and learn, like Strago or evilmaxdark Gief. Also, mech gief is the only toon that can absorb the chun super (until i know, most broken inmunity one vs other supers) and still hit chun in the proces. Gief well playerd can be a nightmare for any team, that is OD. Shout out to Mugai, that men is really good and mad fun.
I love how Mugai specifically created his team around Zangief. The Silver Samurai and Jin assists forces the opponent to block a lot of the time, giving Zangief multiple opportunities to command grab his opponent. It's genius.
Mugai is probably my favorite MvC2 channel. Watching him rinse people with Gief and S. Samurai has me rolling every time. Glad to see you're enjoying it too.
It makes sense that he can call assists there I guess. Because since he's armored up, he never goes into hit stun or block stun, meaning that he can call his assist.
Cool performance of Mugai with Gief. It´s so fun to watch how he beat top players characters with him. Also Strago and Evilmaxdark are great players with Gief I watched similar sequence an strategies from them. That would be great a set a Gief Challenge with all of them.
That was really entertaining. Funny how even in a crazy movement game like Mvc2, a grappler can still make us want to jump for our lives even if they are ready to scoop and bring us back down to earth, lol.
When I was a kid I would play mvc2 on a dreamcast with my neighbor. He would do that silver samurai ice tech, I thought it was mad busted. As I got older I figured this strategy wasn’t that good since I never saw anyone else use it. my friend was always good at finding strategies, I guess that’s why he’s a professional poker player now xD
I feel the same way. The fact that it's a team game means you can formulate teams and strategies that are much stronger than any individual character. Sure the tiers exist but they don't give you free wins.
Honestly, Justin--this should be a series, with you highlighting individual characters, their best players, and optimal tech for each. What separates @mugai_baso's Zangief and Silver Samurai from other top-level players? What are they doing/not doing differently that gives these characters potential?
That was insane! I love seeing crazy stuff I’ve never seen from this game years later. It just keeps giving! Hopefully it’ll get its well deserved modern release
Yo Justin, Blackheart assist is a FOLLOW AND HIT ANY HEIGHT on the opponent ASSIST ATTACK. VS stuck above the screen opponents or even completely off-screen opponents, Blackheart hits the opponent. Via end boss of mvc2 last boss off screen attack or positioning.
What we learned from Mugai Baso when playing MVC2: - The MVC1 tactic on Zangief(multiple Aerial Russian Slam use) works well in MVC2 but fast paced - Mecha Zangief can still call assist even when being hit - Silver Samurai can use Ice Armor 3 times just to get Hyper Armor and his Koori no Ken just gotten powerful it even knocks out fighters on assist. - 12:40 - Cyclops got wrecked by Jin's Blodia Punch!!! Unblockable by the last frame. - 16:35 - Jin can cancel special moves into Blodia Vulcan! Good for baiting traps.
VDO is really fun to watch too with his Rogue/Colossus/Ken team. It's insane to see these players just destroy top tier teams with low/lower tier characters.
I am training Zangief in McCall collection and not only that I am training him for Capcom Fighting Collection 2 when it arrives in 2025 great video JWong
I can't believe I never saw that blodia vulcan bait in all my time fighting good Jin players in the arcade! How are there still new tricks in MVC2?! Favorite vid I've seen in a while, really love the innovative MVC2 and deep commentary.
This was great. I'm never gonna complain about who plays what, high or low tier, but I appreciate this one. Some of these team games are under explored and I wish I could get my hands on them.
Been playing MvC2 since it came out in the Arcades, but just recently I've been seeing the most amazing and creative players so far since back then everyone just picked the same characters
can anyone send me the full rom for mvc2 i cant find mvc2key file and some other file. ive looked for over a month now. i found mvc1 and xmen vs street fighter but cant find mvc2.
@@swishing5568 yea i already got it though didnt know that json shit excisted. lol i havent messed with mame or fightcade for years. everything used to be easy to find.
I have learned so much about Gief to help me out. Only issue is I love my low tiers and I can't use Jin so I need some low tier assists to help with that style.
We can see that antiair move, that is an innovation of this franchise, really helped him. It makes him similar to Hugo with that antiair grab. That makes it look like it was a good idea that he never gained a regular antiair move like that in mainline SF, that isnt a super (SFA and SF6).
I've been running a game club at the school I work at. Too games played? Soul Calibur (dreamcast), and MVC2 (PS3). Funny enough, I just started playing Zangief. Great timing for this video. 🤣
I just have to apologize to you Justin. I thought I just stumbled on someone good at fighting games that made some pretty good content. I had no idea you are like the GOAT of EVO championships. Well done! Out here enjoying this guys content without having a clue lol oopsie.
This reminds me of a fun team I made with Felicia Morrigan and strange in mvc3. The mixups with Felicia on point and kitty helper, with eye of agamotto assist, and having Felicias command grab? Was low tier at the end of the day but fucked ALOT of people up, lol. Block eye, and either kittyhelper overhead or cat scratch grab was gonna get you. Plus a solid strange and Morrigan. Morrigan on bar assist with Felicia meter charge meant so much bar that kitty helper was almost ALWAYS out. Games are fun when you don't sweat/duplicate top tier 24/7. This gief is AWESOME. Lmao
i used to play Zangief and war machine in mvc1 won 2 torunys with that team. and zangief in 2 was fun cause no one played him but me and no one knew how to play vs him lol. i only zangief in sf6 now just got it 3 weeks ago havent played a street fighter since super sf2.
he called an assist, while being hit already inside a birthday party.... so all 3 of his characters were on screen. Thing with the grab assist is, if you are in block stun you cant block a thro assist. That repulsor blast can OTG and then you can use lightning off Silver Samurai, Omega Reds X or the hail storm by Storm.
Zangief is one of my favorite guys to use and he has an edge on the top tiers since they’re not used to his antics (love playing against sentinel). Love from my Russian mafia team: Zangief (ground assist on iron gief), Colossus, and Omega Red.
it's because of the frame rate that MVC2 runs at, so when the super will hit on a certain frame where the game won't register that you're blocking, so the move is unblockable and this can only happen when the assist character gets hit so that the point character "loses" the blocking animation
Repeating Aerial Slam to condition the opponent and when the opponent is scared he lands the Final Atomic Buster It's scarier than the Potemkim jumpscare
Playing Gief in mvc2 takes a person that’s built different, man. Like that’s a character that almost no one would gravitate to in a game like that. I love it when players go against the grain.
What do you mean, that was my go to. Him and dhalsim.
@@Pax_Mayn3 you’re rare is what I mean.
It also makes them so much harder to defeat, because there's so little experience fighting people who are actually GREAT at playing them. To say nothing of the lack of data online, compared to so many others frequently
@@Pax_Mayn3its pretty obvious. In a game where the meta is essentially zoning/8 way airdashers backed by powerful assists picking a grappler point is hard mode.
I always liked to turn him to Mecha mode and use his throw assist into Silver Samurai's electric super.
Seeing Cable and Sentinel getting their asses whooped by Zangief in this game brings a Kool-Aid smile to my face
XD
OH YEAHHHHHH 🍷
Same😂
11:42 *inhales deeply* ....ah yes, 😤a fresh of breath air
I need some
Bruh. This guy living his LIFE in command grab windows. All respect
its "bro" you hipster millennial hipster
@@STOP_FAKENEWSloser alert!
@@STOP_FAKENEWS bruh is used for disbelief
Another chapter of why JWong hate Zangief, but this time is a showcase of the supreme Gief player in MVC2
I'm here for it every time😂😂❤❤
14:50 Justin of all people should know that it's never over 'til it's over!
6:20
Got a full team? You can lose it in a second!
Dang, this player is nuts. He got all the techs and answers in those matches. Pretty awesome seeing other characters in MvC2 being used at this level too.
Mugai is a beast, this Gief is great to watch and learn, like Strago or evilmaxdark Gief.
Also, mech gief is the only toon that can absorb the chun super (until i know, most broken inmunity one vs other supers) and still hit chun in the proces.
Gief well playerd can be a nightmare for any team, that is OD.
Shout out to Mugai, that men is really good and mad fun.
No matter what game he's in, it is ALWAYS fun to watch a good Zangief player!
I love how Mugai specifically created his team around Zangief. The Silver Samurai and Jin assists forces the opponent to block a lot of the time, giving Zangief multiple opportunities to command grab his opponent. It's genius.
Mugai is probably my favorite MvC2 channel. Watching him rinse people with Gief and S. Samurai has me rolling every time. Glad to see you're enjoying it too.
Oh man, Silver Samurai has all sorts of weird interactions with his armor buffs. I never realized how strong his ice super is.
Right!? Borders on insane!!!
Was beautiful
13:03 This frame of Cyclops should become a meme. Like the Yamcha death pose, or the Family Guy death pose.
I knew someone back in high school that would do the three Zangief thing. He called it the Flying Zangief Brothers and it was super obnoxious lol.
“What u jumping for boy” in Smug voice
"Acting like you won't get command grabbed!"
with the greatest of ease
"Don't jump!"
It makes sense that he can call assists there I guess. Because since he's armored up, he never goes into hit stun or block stun, meaning that he can call his assist.
It’s so crazy that there is still new tech to find in MVC2. This game is never boring
To me, only if there is no tier whoring on both sides
11:44 editor you ain’t have to blow my guys analogy up like that
😂😂😂
Cool performance of Mugai with Gief. It´s so fun to watch how he beat top players characters with him. Also Strago and Evilmaxdark are great players with Gief I watched similar sequence an strategies from them. That would be great a set a Gief Challenge with all of them.
12:42
Cyclops: I'm gonna block that super
Jin: Hold my beer
Yo is that CHEDDAH GIEF?!
All i could think about
CHEDDA GIEF!!
That was really entertaining. Funny how even in a crazy movement game like Mvc2, a grappler can still make us want to jump for our lives even if they are ready to scoop and bring us back down to earth, lol.
The dude is extremely effective with this team. By far the best Zangief I’ve ever seen in MvC2. Relentless rush down is insane.
This team made me sooooo Happy to watch. Thank you for posting this Justin so good.
Amazing video. Thank you Justin for the MvC2 video!!
Aight, I got crossed up by the "Fresh of Breath Air" @ 11:43
When I was a kid I would play mvc2 on a dreamcast with my neighbor. He would do that silver samurai ice tech, I thought it was mad busted. As I got older I figured this strategy wasn’t that good since I never saw anyone else use it. my friend was always good at finding strategies, I guess that’s why he’s a professional poker player now xD
So glad you found him. Such a fun channel. I believe VDO has fought him.
I feel like the non god tier characters in mvc2 have so much unexplored potential, even after all these years.
I feel the same way. The fact that it's a team game means you can formulate teams and strategies that are much stronger than any individual character. Sure the tiers exist but they don't give you free wins.
8:55 that was really great combo to lvl3. thx so much for showing us this guy. he is truly a gem to watch for :)
A fresh of breath air.
It's so fun to watch modern MvC2. Yes yes we know what the top tiers are, but everyone in mid tier has something going for them.
this is one of the more satisfying videos I've watched in a while. This guy is dope.
Honestly, Justin--this should be a series, with you highlighting individual characters, their best players, and optimal tech for each. What separates @mugai_baso's Zangief and Silver Samurai from other top-level players? What are they doing/not doing differently that gives these characters potential?
Never, EVER go in against someone playing Cheddar Gief. If the yellow trunks come out, you quIt IMMEDIATELY.
That was insane! I love seeing crazy stuff I’ve never seen from this game years later. It just keeps giving! Hopefully it’ll get its well deserved modern release
Yo Justin, Blackheart assist is a FOLLOW AND HIT ANY HEIGHT on the opponent ASSIST ATTACK. VS stuck above the screen opponents or even completely off-screen opponents, Blackheart hits the opponent. Via end boss of mvc2 last boss off screen attack or positioning.
Being in mvc2 since the dreamcast days; its alot more fun to watch and play oddball character like this now a days.
What we learned from Mugai Baso when playing MVC2:
- The MVC1 tactic on Zangief(multiple Aerial Russian Slam use) works well in MVC2 but fast paced
- Mecha Zangief can still call assist even when being hit
- Silver Samurai can use Ice Armor 3 times just to get Hyper Armor and his Koori no Ken just gotten powerful it even knocks out fighters on assist.
- 12:40 - Cyclops got wrecked by Jin's Blodia Punch!!! Unblockable by the last frame.
- 16:35 - Jin can cancel special moves into Blodia Vulcan! Good for baiting traps.
VDO is really fun to watch too with his Rogue/Colossus/Ken team. It's insane to see these players just destroy top tier teams with low/lower tier characters.
I am training Zangief in McCall collection and not only that I am training him for Capcom Fighting Collection 2 when it arrives in 2025 great video JWong
With all the action happening, I could have swore this was FighterZ. That dude has put some serious time into MvC2
That was insanely fun to watch
HOLY SHIT. That solo run with gief was dope.
Love seeing the MvC2 vids. That Gief was crazy good.
1:58 is PEAK conditioning
I can't believe I never saw that blodia vulcan bait in all my time fighting good Jin players in the arcade! How are there still new tricks in MVC2?! Favorite vid I've seen in a while, really love the innovative MVC2 and deep commentary.
the armor for silver samurai comes in very handy
Great video Justin! Thanks for the advice on the monitor I was looking for a monitor so I’m gonna get one of these.
This was great. I'm never gonna complain about who plays what, high or low tier, but I appreciate this one. Some of these team games are under explored and I wish I could get my hands on them.
This was so much fun to watch because I've been playing mvc2 again love this game so much
man... that was quite inspiring to watch, it actually made me want to play MVC2 again
Been playing MvC2 since it came out in the Arcades, but just recently I've been seeing the most amazing and creative players so far since back then everyone just picked the same characters
This guy is good!
Love to see this kind of teams in this game
the god of the "dont act like u wont get command grabbed"
It’s rare I see someone that makes my mouth drop from seeing their style of play in a game. This dude has made me want to play mvc2 all over again
very impressive. It's always a pleasure with JW.
i love afresh of breath air. 11:34
That was top tier content. Would love to see a game with silver samurai and bishamon and kaijin no soki....
can anyone send me the full rom for mvc2 i cant find mvc2key file and some other file. ive looked for over a month now. i found mvc1 and xmen vs street fighter but cant find mvc2.
Is this for fightcade????
@@swishing5568 yea i already got it though didnt know that json shit excisted. lol i havent messed with mame or fightcade for years. everything used to be easy to find.
I have learned so much about Gief to help me out. Only issue is I love my low tiers and I can't use Jin so I need some low tier assists to help with that style.
18:52 Its just a 360 with kicks instead of punches, no 720s in this game. Still really hard to land tho.
We can see that antiair move, that is an innovation of this franchise, really helped him. It makes him similar to Hugo with that antiair grab. That makes it look like it was a good idea that he never gained a regular antiair move like that in mainline SF, that isnt a super (SFA and SF6).
I've been running a game club at the school I work at. Too games played? Soul Calibur (dreamcast), and MVC2 (PS3). Funny enough, I just started playing Zangief. Great timing for this video. 🤣
Geif is such a meta pick in this game cause your instincts are to take to the air. But he's like "gotcha!".
Just watched this after watching your ft7 with Mugai. You were getting smoked lol what a great set
I just have to apologize to you Justin. I thought I just stumbled on someone good at fighting games that made some pretty good content. I had no idea you are like the GOAT of EVO championships. Well done! Out here enjoying this guys content without having a clue lol oopsie.
9:11 "That was Brazy!" 😂😂😂
This reminds me of a fun team I made with Felicia Morrigan and strange in mvc3. The mixups with Felicia on point and kitty helper, with eye of agamotto assist, and having Felicias command grab? Was low tier at the end of the day but fucked ALOT of people up, lol. Block eye, and either kittyhelper overhead or cat scratch grab was gonna get you. Plus a solid strange and Morrigan. Morrigan on bar assist with Felicia meter charge meant so much bar that kitty helper was almost ALWAYS out. Games are fun when you don't sweat/duplicate top tier 24/7. This gief is AWESOME. Lmao
Naw this is one of my favorite uploads of yours 😂😂😂 about to run it back. I need more smug and you in sf 🤣
I saw him a few days ago and his Zangief is crazy, very entertaining to watch. Would you have a match with him?
Nah this Gief is godlike, I didn't even think grapplers worked in these types of games.
i used to play Zangief and war machine in mvc1 won 2 torunys with that team. and zangief in 2 was fun cause no one played him but me and no one knew how to play vs him lol. i only zangief in sf6 now just got it 3 weeks ago havent played a street fighter since super sf2.
Don't let anyone lie to you about Gief in SF6. He has some dumbass setups if you're willing, so the love doesn't have to stop~
@@Jardonius he is the only reason i got sf6. i got it about 3 weeks ago just finished my placement game won them all, im diamond 1
he called an assist, while being hit already inside a birthday party.... so all 3 of his characters were on screen.
Thing with the grab assist is, if you are in block stun you cant block a thro assist.
That repulsor blast can OTG and then you can use lightning off Silver Samurai, Omega Reds X or the hail storm by Storm.
Dam. That dude is it. That comeback with gief 🤯
The way Justin says Marvel vs Capcom 2 just kills me every time... he always eats the VERSUS annunciation 😂
This mvc2 game is pretty wild
18:53 he buffered off the cr jab
Was DEFINITELY left satisfied 🤯🤩🤩 a fresh of breath air 😤
Best video in ages bro keep it upp
Zangief is one of my favorite guys to use and he has an edge on the top tiers since they’re not used to his antics (love playing against sentinel). Love from my Russian mafia team: Zangief (ground assist on iron gief), Colossus, and Omega Red.
Zangief becomes Godgief in this player's hands.
Seeing this Gief player just makes me wish ratios were still a thing.
was giggling with you in the beginning, dude its crazy lol
So wait hold up.... The samurai ice buff stacks?!
@11:30 EXCUSE ME?! THAT DMG! Justin it's time for another mvc2 tier list bro silver samurai and gief gotta go north
Ngl, I didn’t understand why that was unblockable with your explanation. Anybody help?
it's because of the frame rate that MVC2 runs at, so when the super will hit on a certain frame where the game won't register that you're blocking, so the move is unblockable and this can only happen when the assist character gets hit so that the point character "loses" the blocking animation
Ahhh, thank you
@@xtrabigs there's also other moves like that if you are curious, such as Doom's sweep
My fav personality in the FG circuit, jwong.
15:20 😆
So nice of him to let Jin and Silver Samurai come along to watch him murder everything...
I forgot that move was a grapple because I only ever see if as a mobility tool
Appreciate your tv recommendation when it comes to fgc
I really wanted to see more mid/low tier high level matches on 3S, CvS2, A3 and other retro fgs.
Repeating Aerial Slam to condition the opponent and when the opponent is scared he lands the Final Atomic Buster
It's scarier than the Potemkim jumpscare
that guy has some of the funniest mixups I've ever seen in a fighting game
Can't wait for the Collection!
I saw the cheddar gief and immediately thought it was Mike Ross
Cool to see new ways to play old games
5:26 the exact moment he kills Psylocke looks godlike
It's actually offensive how good he is with Zangief lol.
A scary Zangief? In MvC2??? NANI?!?!?!?!?!