The two sizes taller sidewalls look much more normal than stock on the L322. I for one appreciate the lower weight of these Coopers. And I like the look of the design as well as their performance offroad AND on road. Comfortable, capable and pretty silent. Putting a smile on my face every time I see them. 😊
Hi like your videos I have just bought my self a 2012 L322 and I just love it. The best on road off road car I have owned. I have just fitted AT tyres they are 265/60 R20 and I only rub when the car is in access hight. No rubbing in standard hight. Keep up your great work. I might do some videos of the L322 in Oz off road 🤔
Enjoy your channel. Love the footage of your trips. In case anyone is interested in alternatives, on my L322, I run KMC 714 rims with -30mm offset and same 275/55r20 as you. Gives it a staunch and aggressive look. With Johnson rod 2 inch lift, I have no rub except at full wheel turn. But the rub is minimal. It went away after a few months and did no damage to the liner.
Great vid. Remember that changing the rolling circumference of the wheel (by going from 50 to 55 profile) will slightly change the accuracy of the speedometer. If you have the GAP tool you can recalibrate those values to compensate. There’s also a handy website that shows you by how much +/- mph your speedo will be out if you alter tyre sizes. Best,Ty.
You’re correct. I have a 275/60/20 to match my others. It doesn’t fit in the trunk space anymore. I’m going to size down the tire. Other option is a Wilco swing out tire carrier but you lose departure angle and have all that weight on the rear end.
I have same tyre combo - speedo under reads by about 2 km/h at 120, so marginal ( probably cancels out the factory over read). Have not bothered to correct. The only issue is the spare - I have the 255 as the spare in the car, and if I do get a puncture, I will just treat as a biscuit and drive slowly.
I’ve checked mine, car following, followed a car, with radios shouting out speedo readings, GPS tracking, radar speed traps, the speedo is hardly out at 70 MPH. Yes, you can reset with a GAP, but, it;s not out enough to bother me.
One other thing that I struggled with when selecting tires is the Speed Rating. The AT tires don’t have a high enough speed rating that these trucks call for. Now if overlanding is your main objective then speed rating probably isn’t that important. Just make sure a too low speed rating doesn’t cause a MOT/Inspection failure in your area.
And another issue is the wheel's load rating. The L322 wheels are rated 925kg, Disco 3s are 940kg, L405s are 880kg. (I think). So, are there any problems with putting L405 wheels om a L322? It's not a huge difference in load rating and I guess it is safe - unless you are doing extreme rock climbing with wheels off the ground. When looking around for alternative wheels I have found that load ratings are hardly ever listed. Yes, the PCD and offset will work, but what about the load?
Hi. Thanks for all the info and the videos. Very informative and entertaining. My stock 20"wheels on a 2007 SC have 58 offset, while your L405 wheels are probably 47 offset. This will put the centreline of your tyre further away from the body of the car/suspension, and so will give you a lot less rubbing than if you had put these tyres on standard 20" L322 wheels. I think. Smart move on your part. Here in NZ, an increase of greater than 5% overall tyre diameter is a WOF fail, so I'm trying to find some 19" tyres with similar characteristics. Not easy. Cheers
That was one reason going with a different offset, move the tyres out further. Here we are OK, good luck finding the 19” wheels. OEM are rare, the reason I didn’t go that route is the lack of choice in 19” AT tyres, poor. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
There is one 19” rim that will fit over the 6 pot Brembos but they are rare as hens teeth....for info only for others reading the comments. I run 255 55 20 General Grabber AT3. Love them 👍👍 I can also get a full size spare in that size in the wheel well at 20psi 😎
I know, the problem with those 19” is the selection of AT rubber is poor. I did contact Barry at Compomotive, he is working on a 18” to fit over the 6 pots… stayed tuned.
Great video, thanks for the info. Just another tip, I'm a videographer, when you plug your wireless mic in, you need to have your cameras mic volume as low as possible, and your wireless mic up pretty high to get good clear audio. Yours is pretty distorted in this video and it makes for a bit of a tough listen. I suspect you have your cameras mic audio level up and your wireless mic up too. Next time, just lower mic the level on your camera in the settings and that should be perfect 😎👌 Cheers again for the info.
On my 2010 RRS I have 285/35 on 22” x 10” rims (fitted by previous owner). Tyres need replacement shortly & thinking of going up to a 45 profile with same 285 width for a more comfortable ride. Would appreciate your thoughts on this?
Unless you change the rim, the ride will be terrible because there is no sidewalll to soften the road vibrations. if you want comfortable. Drop to at least 20”’s with 55 profile tyres and the ride will vastly improve
Just discovered your channel & subscribed straight away // fantastic video !! … what about the ride 275 ?? I have two L322 one supercharged bought it with R250 50 20 looks anorexic ! don’t like it , so can I go 265 ? Or 260 ?? Or it has to be 275 ?
Thank you! Welcome. The ride is excellent, but it’s not the width it’s the sidewall. Going to 55 profile makes a world of difference. If you just use it for road use, I’d go 265/55. Enough extra sidewall and extra width, you will get rubbing on 275, 265 will be minimal. Hope that helps. AT tyres does improve ride quality too, the road based tyres, to me, have too hard a compound and with the lower profile, won;t absurd bumps in the road.
Apparently they do, but I’ve not had any issues or bothered to change anything. I have recently tested my speedo againts my Garmin Tread and there is barely any difference in the speed reading between the two.
Yes, I have driven the sand trails in Southern Portugal, tyres need to run on 24 psi, but it was fine. I’ve not really attempted steep sand dunes, none around.
Probably, depends on what wheel offset you have. Access mode will rub, the fronts on full lock, you will certainly wear out the rear fuel “bulge” for sure, unless you take off the inner wheel liner, heat it up, push the bulge our.
You could always get a full size spare wheel, just put it on the roof whenever you go over the pond to spain, great videos by the way,
The two sizes taller sidewalls look much more normal than stock on the L322. I for one appreciate the lower weight of these Coopers. And I like the look of the design as well as their performance offroad AND on road. Comfortable, capable and pretty silent. Putting a smile on my face every time I see them. 😊
Very sensible overview and advice. Thanks!
Hi like your videos I have just bought my self a 2012 L322 and I just love it. The best on road off road car I have owned. I have just fitted AT tyres they are 265/60 R20 and I only rub when the car is in access hight. No rubbing in standard hight. Keep up your great work. I might do some videos of the L322 in Oz off road 🤔
Thank you!
Enjoy your channel. Love the footage of your trips. In case anyone is interested in alternatives, on my L322, I run KMC 714 rims with -30mm offset and same 275/55r20 as you. Gives it a staunch and aggressive look. With Johnson rod 2 inch lift, I have no rub except at full wheel turn. But the rub is minimal. It went away after a few months and did no damage to the liner.
Thank you, great advice and feedback 👍🏻
Great vid. Remember that changing the rolling circumference of the wheel (by going from 50 to 55 profile) will slightly change the accuracy of the speedometer. If you have the GAP tool you can recalibrate those values to compensate. There’s also a handy website that shows you by how much +/- mph your speedo will be out if you alter tyre sizes. Best,Ty.
You’re correct. I have a 275/60/20 to match my others. It doesn’t fit in the trunk space anymore. I’m going to size down the tire. Other option is a Wilco swing out tire carrier but you lose departure angle and have all that weight on the rear end.
I have same tyre combo - speedo under reads by about 2 km/h at 120, so marginal ( probably cancels out the factory over read). Have not bothered to correct. The only issue is the spare - I have the 255 as the spare in the car, and if I do get a puncture, I will just treat as a biscuit and drive slowly.
I’ve checked mine, car following, followed a car, with radios shouting out speedo readings, GPS tracking, radar speed traps, the speedo is hardly out at 70 MPH. Yes, you can reset with a GAP, but, it;s not out enough to bother me.
Agreed on the spare, not going to do the canning stock route, it’s a spare to get you to safety to repair or replace. 👍🏻
One other thing that I struggled with when selecting tires is the Speed Rating. The AT tires don’t have a high enough speed rating that these trucks call for. Now if overlanding is your main objective then speed rating probably isn’t that important. Just make sure a too low speed rating doesn’t cause a MOT/Inspection failure in your area.
Agreed, I rarely drive over 70MPH anyway, I try and be mechanically sympathetic these days.
And another issue is the wheel's load rating. The L322 wheels are rated 925kg, Disco 3s are 940kg, L405s are 880kg. (I think).
So, are there any problems with putting L405 wheels om a L322? It's not a huge difference in load rating and I guess it is safe - unless you are doing extreme rock climbing with wheels off the ground.
When looking around for alternative wheels I have found that load ratings are hardly ever listed. Yes, the PCD and offset will work, but what about the load?
Hi. Thanks for all the info and the videos. Very informative and entertaining.
My stock 20"wheels on a 2007 SC have 58 offset, while your L405 wheels are probably 47 offset. This will put the centreline of your tyre further away from the body of the car/suspension, and so will give you a lot less rubbing than if you had put these tyres on standard 20" L322 wheels. I think.
Smart move on your part.
Here in NZ, an increase of greater than 5% overall tyre diameter is a WOF fail, so I'm trying to find some 19" tyres with similar characteristics. Not easy.
Cheers
That was one reason going with a different offset, move the tyres out further. Here we are OK, good luck finding the 19” wheels. OEM are rare, the reason I didn’t go that route is the lack of choice in 19” AT tyres, poor. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Great info and content my friend, keep up the good work
Thank you! Not long now 👍🏻
There is one 19” rim that will fit over the 6 pot Brembos but they are rare as hens teeth....for info only for others reading the comments. I run 255 55 20 General Grabber AT3. Love them 👍👍 I can also get a full size spare in that size in the wheel well at 20psi 😎
I know, the problem with those 19” is the selection of AT rubber is poor. I did contact Barry at Compomotive, he is working on a 18” to fit over the 6 pots… stayed tuned.
@@Overlanding4WD That will be great!
Great video, thanks for the info.
Just another tip, I'm a videographer, when you plug your wireless mic in, you need to have your cameras mic volume as low as possible, and your wireless mic up pretty high to get good clear audio.
Yours is pretty distorted in this video and it makes for a bit of a tough listen.
I suspect you have your cameras mic audio level up and your wireless mic up too.
Next time, just lower mic the level on your camera in the settings and that should be perfect 😎👌
Cheers again for the info.
I think the media mic on my GoPro has failed during this video. I have been playing with different mics and settings. Thanks for the advice 👍🏻
On my 2010 RRS I have 285/35 on 22” x 10” rims (fitted by previous owner). Tyres need replacement shortly & thinking of going up to a 45 profile with same 285 width for a more comfortable ride.
Would appreciate your thoughts on this?
Unless you change the rim, the ride will be terrible because there is no sidewalll to soften the road vibrations. if you want comfortable. Drop to at least 20”’s with 55 profile tyres and the ride will vastly improve
Just discovered your channel & subscribed straight away // fantastic video !! … what about the ride 275 ?? I have two L322 one supercharged bought it with R250 50 20 looks anorexic ! don’t like it , so can I go 265 ? Or 260 ?? Or it has to be 275 ?
Thank you! Welcome. The ride is excellent, but it’s not the width it’s the sidewall. Going to 55 profile makes a world of difference. If you just use it for road use, I’d go 265/55. Enough extra sidewall and extra width, you will get rubbing on 275, 265 will be minimal. Hope that helps. AT tyres does improve ride quality too, the road based tyres, to me, have too hard a compound and with the lower profile, won;t absurd bumps in the road.
I know adding larger tires gives you inaccurate speedometer readings. Does the ECU detect this and give you any kind of warning? Thank you.
Apparently they do, but I’ve not had any issues or bothered to change anything. I have recently tested my speedo againts my Garmin Tread and there is barely any difference in the speed reading between the two.
Is it good with sand and dunes?
Yes, I have driven the sand trails in Southern Portugal, tyres need to run on 24 psi, but it was fine. I’ve not really attempted steep sand dunes, none around.
Can I have 275/50/21 without clearance issues?? 2008 L322
21” didn’t even know they made wheels and tyres in that size. 265/60 is probable the largest size without rubbing issues.
Hi, if I use 275-55-20 but normal road tires, not AT, will it still rub?
Probably, depends on what wheel offset you have. Access mode will rub, the fronts on full lock, you will certainly wear out the rear fuel “bulge” for sure, unless you take off the inner wheel liner, heat it up, push the bulge our.