Everything GREAT About Creed 3!
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Creed III (which is pronounce Creed iyiyi) is a movie that shouldn't be good cus it's a third in a series and directed by a freshman director. And yet…here we are. Here's everything right with Creed 3!
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MBJ getting to live out his dream in this movie, getting to make essentially a live action sports anime movie with shonen touches for days. A really solid directorial debut for a guy who is one of the top tier in Hollywood today
It's not that common a story, envy. Not as a central theme in film.
@@JoshSweetvalestill done well🤷🏿♂️
People arent even talking about the fact that this is his FIRST movie he directed. And it was amazing.
DC & warner should offer him directorial work, star wars should offer him work.
The dude did amazing.
It was really cool to see some of the anime influences in this movie. The Creed movies really helped bring an audience back to the Rocky storyline which now has been passed off to Creed's son.
Some of my favorite aspects of the movie:
1. The movie starts with Creed getting the runback on “Pretty” Ricky from the first movie and finally beating him.
2. Despite Ivan Drago killing Apollo, Adonis and Viktor Drago were on friendly terms.
3. The uneasiness with Jordan and Majors first meeting up, despite being friends. The tension felt realistic.
Number 2 proves the locker room deleted scene in Creed 2 was canon
Yeah, that was just great that they brought back Pretty Ricky Conlan, that fight was awesome and seeing Drago and Donnie friends is just sweet and that build up of the tension between Adonis and Damien was just perfect.
the anime references were fire too like the goku and vegeta trade
Lacking that Rocky isn’t in it .
You kept mentioning how Dame isn’t really a villain and I think this perfectly shows the difference between a villain and antagonist.
One thing to clarify Is that Dame intentionally hurt his shoulder during sparing weeks prior so he could target an already weakened shoulder on fight night as well as all the other dirty tactics he used that night to capitalize on a already one armed Felix ,So Dame wasn’t rlly the better fighter, he just finessed everyone who got him the fight with cheap strategies, that’s y everyone was upset . Not just because Felix lost lol
That would explain everyone's reactions after he wins
Right, but the argument he's making is that /this is what boxing is./ Boxing is an ugly, ugly sport full of brutality and ruthlesness. Ain't nobody playing paladin on that ring when their livelihoods and the integrity of their brain is at stake.
Actual boxing is about zeroing in on whatever disadvantages and known injuries the opponent has and hitting there until that man gives up or is broken in. In fact that first fight looks awful and disgusting specifically because they made it look like boxing actually is. Dame is a bit street brawly, but he's definitely no more violent than boxing as a whole is.
Felix was the better boxer,but Dame wanted it more
That "you learned a few moves... without me" really showed *WHY* Dame had gotten so angry. He felt his brother had basically abandoned him, ignored him and cast him aside, only to be successful in what he thought he would succeed in.
How they portrayed their childhood, it felt like Dame really would have brought Donnie with him had he been successful. So taking that fall for him, all of the history between them, this was amazing.
All of the anger and hate that they felt, they left it in that ring. The visualization of having only MBJ and Majors in the ring, blocking out everyone except each other, flashing to their traumatic past. It was really beautiful on a film making aspect. Plus the locker room scene, after they were finally able to cope, they were able to be vulnerable with each other. The wide shot angled with a dark shadow surrounding them, highlighted with the lockers adding warmth around the two of them. Cutting to close up profiles of each other on corresponding sides of the screen to make you feel invested in what the other says to each other. You almost become a part of their conversation as you feel their development and reconciliation.
Michael B Jordan did an amazing job with his debut, Jonathan Majors did an outstanding job with Dame, that much is undeniable.
Its really a story of Dame and Donnie coming to terms with their childhoods and it was awesome 👌
I really love the 'its easy for you' 'no it's not easy for me' lines about opening up and talking. A lot of critics were fairly down on this movie but there is a lot of stuff like that in this movie that really is a step above just another 'boxing' movie. Stuff like the ASL scenes, the call backs to the first Creed movie and fighters showing up from last movies to make the world feel fuller instead of just having them as a one movie appearance
It was fine. Don't overreact.
Tessa was amazing in that scene, the hurt in her voice, keeping it together because she made peace with how things turned out, but the pain still evident. Michael struggling to open up. Beautifully acted.
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Another cool look at these two seeing their younger selves during the fight is that the scene ends with Dame still seeing Adonis as a kid, while Adonis's vision shifts Dame back to being an adult. This shows us that Dame is stuck in the past while Adonis learned to let go of what was and focus on the present
Yes, the point of boxing is to hurt each other. But there needs to be some form of honor in the ring. And Dame didn't have that with Felix. Cheap shots and completely disregarding the dude's wellbeing after the match, despite knowing who trained him is pretty rough.
Mm. Honour in fighting was a big deal and its mostly going by the wayside so I've noticed a lot of people just don't get it. The phrase "kick someone when they're down" isn't originally a metaphor, its literal. Its about having that honour. And breaking those taboo's drags everyone down. Using moves that are technically legal but considered dishonourable is a big no-no. Especially because it amounts to cheating in that the opponent wouldn't be on guard for it. It opens everyone involved up to getting more seriously injured and takes it from a sport with mutual respect to more like an actual fight. That's why everyone was so disgusted with his behavour.
Exactly
Excactly, the issue wasn't that Dame was hurting Felix. It was how, Dame was unsportsmanlike, going for continous cheapshots and Felix not getting up after a knockout was the cherry on top. If anyone is knocked out for long, its usually very worrying
watched this one in the theaters and i absolutely adored it. everyone treated all of the fights like they were an honest to god event, so it wasn't quiet which made it one of the best theater experiences i ever had honestly. i really would love to see mbj back in the directors chair soon, i think he knocked it out of the park.
16:34 I also liked that in this moment Adonis first sees his childhood friend as the kid he once was, but then Adonis sees Dame as the man he has become. While at the same time Dame looks over and sees Adonis as the kid and it doesn't change to Adonis the man. He sees his childhood friend but also that scared kid that abandoned him.
I would genuinely have loved a Rocky cameo for Mary Anne's funeral, I felt that would have been fitting.
I'll just say that he was there, watching stoicly but out of frame.
While it is sad we don't have Rocky in this movie, I do like how this allows for it to be a story entirely about Donnie's own legacy, unconnected to that of his father's.
He wrapped up any remaining bad blood with the Drago family last time, and he's moved on.
Rocky isn't here because he doesn't need to be.
Adds some significance to Rocky’s “it’s your time” to Adonis at the end of Creed 2
He still could've at least called, maybe offer some advice
Having Rocky would've made the movie not quite as good.
Stallone found it too dark, so for him to be involved, it would've had to be changed to be more light hearted.
Ergo, it's a good thing he wasn't there.
@@thealgerian3285 not even a voice cameo?
The fact they even show the empty space where Rocky *should* be but isn't was to make the point of Adonis picking himself up because Rocky isn't there.
This is the closest we’ll get to Killmonger vs. Kang.
On another note, rest in power Nipsey Hussle.
i've been waiting for this. the symmetry between Jordan and Majors (as short as we've gotten it) was magical. they complimented each other's versatility so well.
Life is long. We may yet see more.
I love how we have been getting movies and shows (mostly animated) that proudly wear their anime influences on their sleeves.
Also loved the chadwick Boseman reference in the first scene(young Dame wearing the Jackie Robinson jersey)
This is what I wanted. I think the film length was good but it could've used one more fight. Dame beats someone cleanly with the same results.
The cheap shots in the Felix fightwere necessary to show his desperation but a clean fight with similar results gives skill to the menace and gets further into Donnie's head. Having that clean fight be an easy disarming of Drago II would be a mark of terror for Creed.
My thoughts exactly. It felt a little bit incomplete
Personally, I think it would've been cool if Adonis took a few months off post his falling out with Damian, then Damian challenged Drago and wins via Unanimous decision, and boosts his reputation before Adonis steps in
No way was he beat drago clean
When mama creed died I actually cried because I could’ve lost my dad to a stroke 4 years ago. This movie was amazing in every way. Great directional debut for MBJ🙌🏾💯
My FAVORITE call back is when young Dame tears the tape off his gloves with his teeth in his fight in the beginning. Just like Donnie does in the first Creed. Which means Donnie was imitating Dame. The entire thing comes full circle!
I loved the anime Easter eggs in this movie. That scene when it was just them in the ring really felt like Kakashi vs obito especially with how it was flashing back to their younger selves fighting
MBJ vision man... Whole other level, love the fact that he takes inspiration for different sources and makes it up to his signature, he learned well on screen & off screen.. Amazing irl role model as well
The entire scene of Duke being pissed after Felix loses is because he didn't want the fight to go ahead.
Most boxers don't pick a totally unknown opponent a few weeks before the fight. Especially when the coach can see that the fighting style isn't the safest for his boxer.
Drago would be a brawler. But a known entity who definitely is much safer as Felix would have prepared for months for him
I watched this movie in theaters with my mom, we had just lost my grandma around Christmas, so seeing Mary Anne die hit us harder than we thought, still loved this movie tho
as a young boxer in training this franchise and this movie in particular has had a strong impact
Good luck out there!!! You got this! Rooting for you.
Moneyball had the same effect on me, same with Top Gun. Movies are powerful! Hoping for your success!
The way I interpreted emotions from the first match was MBJ was feeling betrayed by Jonathan majors because Jonathan knew he was gonna win the fight but led MBJ to believe otherwise. The convo between MBJ and Jonathan indicated that he could give a competition but no really win. That's also why the match was fixed.
MBJ nailed it. I know Stallone kinda didn't like it, but i sure did. Can't wait to see what he's doing next.
So I always interpretted the trainer getting pissed about Dame winning wasn't that he won, it's how he won. There's the obvious cheating & foul play, but there's also just Dame's attitude. He's not trying to beat Felix; he's trying to *hurt* him.
Duke was pissed because he warned Donny multiple times that Dame was too dangerous
After watching the John wick 4 video I came back to this video again to give it more love and I saw this video had under 400 comments and that made me super sad so here I am adding a comment.
Cinema wins I have to say that your videos are my favorite things in the world as someone who doesn’t like sitting down and watching full movies I love coming to RUclips and watching your videos and I find greater joy when I watch one of your videos of a movie I did watch and loved because it reminds me of that movie and I want to rewatch it.
For example I recently watched your inside out video and it reminded me that it was an amazing movie because the first time I watched it the message and spirit of the movie went over my head because I didn’t pay attention to it. I also love getting someone else’s perspective and perception of other things and with your bright fun positive tone of voice it really draws me in to the emotion of the scene that I probably wouldn’t have achieved on my own.
I just want to say that your videos bring me indescribable joy.
Also you Everything Everywhere All at once is one of my favorite video of yours because the movie itself is too much for me to watch over and over again but the message is so relatable to me that sometimes I need to remind myself of that “if nothing matters …something…something” line because it truly brings stuff into perspective for me and also I think it’s super cool you’re on a soccer team.🙂
Ya side not I never watched the creed movies or the rocky movies because they don’t appeal to me but coming to see “all” the wins is something I always look forward to 😅
I think the whole thing your missing with everyone being annoyed in Dames title fight isn't that he won and it's a combat sport, it's that the build up to the fight was everyone not knowing why he was going soo far out of his way for Dame when to them Dame was just this ex-con who was very obviously on a warpath and going to cause trouble to what Adonis had built up, so when it happened it was a "we've been telling you this for months" kind of deal. There could have been reshoots as to why everyone seemed more overly disgusted than just badly annoyed but thats what I took from it, just not understanding Adonis loyalty and willingness to give everything up for someone they see as just a bad apple.
On another note as much as I liked this film and understand all the artistic mentalities they put into the final fight, it really just took me out of the moment with how jarring a difference it was, I feel like you could have not had the colour fluctuations and kept the crowd there just silent and you could have still done the story-telling they wanted to.
Making the final fight more artistic also ruined some of the tension in it, for me at least.
Suddenly the fight skipped to the last round (or so) and it's like "what? Where was the fight?"
Which is strange in a boxing film.
Good thing you ain’t the director
So... I'm not a boxer. And I will admit I might be talking out of my ass but, hearing the way other combat sports fighters (MMA, Jiu Jitsu, Muay Thai) speak about how they treat their opponents, it's more like they're colleagues; like iron sharpening iron. It's competitive but there's also an understanding that this is a community that works in its best interests. If you have someone in a heel hook, you're not actively trying to snap their ankle even though you're pushing your opponent to the point that they tap out and reach that breaking point.
Dame's fight with Felix was devoid of that community. He was trying to HURT Felix - something a seasoned fighter who was an active participant IN that community of fighters wouldn't have done. Dame never got to BE that because of his stint in jail. All he knew was survival - even during his younger forays in the ring, it was always about survival and he never got that part of him smoothed out. In fact, there's a slight parallel in how Donnie, over those previous two movies, battled his own deeply held issues to become the fighter he was at the end of this movie. So the anger everyone shows at Dame (and Donnie) is about that desire to harm - not just beat - his opponent. Felix losing wasn't the point; Felix being broken in what they considered an unnecessary way is what did it. (Heck, even the weight class disparity was a bit of meta storytelling because no way would Felix be in the ring with a guy like Dame just based on that alone and here you have Donnie vouching for it and it ends with an ambulance ride).
I will say that I definitely did LOVE the first fight because it shows a contrast between the spectacle and respectability of fighting that Donnie was able to grow into (touch gloves, follow the rules, shake hands when you're done and praise the winner if you lose) vs. the reality of fighting for survival that Dame had to go through. It really showed, without flashbacks, what Dame's life on the inside was all about and painted the character perfectly.
I feel like the villains paint a really interesting dichotomy between the Rocky and Creed films. Most of the Rocky movie villains are big, almost gimmicky “monster” villains, while the Creed villains are more real and, at least in 2 and 3, personal to the hero, kind of at the expense of having an otherwise defining “thing”. Don’t get me wrong, I’m most cases the villains work incredibly well across both series and I love both series dearly, I just find it interesting to see the difference.
Dame fell into a very difficult place to me. He was easy to empathize with up until he targeted Donnie after becoming champ. At that point, he just became a cruel bully. And as someone that endured a lot of bullying as a kid, that's a surefire way to cut me off from caring about them. I could see that Jordan is depicting that much of Dame's actions are driven by fear and anger, but I really didn't want to connect to him after that.
re: about Dame becoming champ, people aren't angry that he won or that he cheated, but that he's bad winner; the fact that he's so willing to break the rules to get an edge, with the flagrant elbow. It's a bit like Sonny Liston back in the day, the image of the champ having mafia ties meant he wasn't really embraced as champ. With Dame, he's a guy that came out of nowhere with no reputation, had no issue breaking the rules, and won. Sure, he's the champ, but no one likes how he did it. Like Liston, he established a heel persona and that will make people reluctant to like him.
Fair point. I do think Dame's behaviour after his 'win' is more harsh as he's pulled off his plan of manipulating Donnie and getting revenge very successfully and is rubbing it in, hence why-high on confidence- he goads Donnie into fighting himself to complete his revenge. I do think the 'reconciliation' scene after Donnie defeats him is there to show he's been humbled and his back to his earlier more relatable behaviour but I agree they went a bit too far at times.
Something that I absolutely love about dame and I pointed this out to my friend during the scene, when dame has his fight the ankle monitor is beeping the entire time, and I think it's such a great note to add to dame as a character
And another note, I think bringing in dame to this universe is kinda setting up for a rocky 4 drago style fight where dame is hurt really bad and donnie has to give dame justice
I remember seeing those boxing scenes in IMAX and it was so immersive. I heard they didn't keep those for the home release. Some movies are starting to do that (Nope) while others haven't and it's a shame. Hopefully, more studios and filmmakers push to keep the IMAX ratios for home release.
I also have to mention that there was a scene of Adonis in jail with people chanting around him in the trailer and I wonder where that would have been within the overall story.
the barking that Majors does in this movie every punch he does is the same that he does in ant man quantimania (idk how to spell it) when he is fighting ant man towards the end of the movie. it might be just me reaching for something but i think Majors might have done some type of martial arts or fighting style training since alot of pro fighters do a grunt or bark of some sort and thats to give their punches a bit more uff if you get what im saying. i could be wrong but its just something i noticed in both movies that hes been in.
Dame’s style is the Philly Shell, and the cross arm defense was used often by Joe Fraiser, but he also showed some dirty boxing tactics i.e. the inside knee ti Felix’s leg, and the elbow. Great video and breakdown.
From what I'm seeing Dame's defense is a cross guard. I've box myself and that is definitely not a philly shell.
@@superdee1301 check out Terrible Tim Witherspoon, 2x Heavyweight Champion. He has a channel here on RUclips and he describes the Philly Shell style, and he said that said that the cross guard is part of the Philly Shell defense.
The D&D movie deserves an episode, but this is Episode 110 of requesting The Princess Bride!
I have watched Creed 3 many times, and even though I hate boxing and movies related to boxing, I love this one. Donnie's regrets over his past, and his love for his wife and daughter make this one of the best and most sensitive movies. His directing was excellent and I was surprised at how well he did. Also, how can you lose with *Killmonger, Valkyrie and Kang* in the same movie?!! 😁
Initially thought that next week's EGA video was going to be on Rings of Power due to the still frame at the beginning of the video but then I just skipped ahead to the end of this video & you basically said what next week is going to be.
Here's a list of suggestions to consider for future EGA videos:
-The Lost World: Jurassic Park
-The Land Before Time
-Disney's Dinosaur
-We're Back: A Dinosaurs' Story
-Walking with Dinosaurs 3D (Either the Cretaceous Cut or Cumberbatch Narration)
-Ice Age
-King Kong (2005 Film)
-Jurassic Park III
-Godzilla (1998)
-Land of the Lost (2009)
It still warms my heart watching Avon give Wallace pep talks.. Can't remember if they shared screen time on the wire but so great seeing them togheter again
The boxing scene between Donnie and Dame are a homage to the Hajime no Ippo and Ashita no Joe.
Great stuff as usual! I'm just patiently waiting for John Wick 4
Love that Dame was modeled after Mike Tyson, he even fell how Mike did when he was first KO’ed by Buster Douglas. If there ever was a Creed 4 he better be in it.
So I watched Creed three on a college visit, however haven’t watched the full other two movies. But something I picked up on from the first movie that carried over into the third one was the headgear during practice. In the first one he didn’t use headgear, and something that happens in the Rockyverse is fighting oneself. So he went into training hiding behind a false identity, and after he learned what he was fighting for the headgear came off. And that’s even further shown when it comes to the final fight.
YES! Can’t WAIT for you to post the D&D movie one next week!
For real. Worked on the movie a lil, was amazing to work on, REALLY hope you loved it!
I never caught that Donny says ‘love you too’ …..I always thought he was letting out emotion as a sound…love the movie even more!
Saw this one in IMAX and the fights are almost overwhelming in that format in the best way
Side note on the mention of "how strong creed is" when he was pulling the plane. Plane's, are actually not that heavy and relatively easy to move around. Once the wheels are rolling it's pretty easy for it to keep it going.
I just love that I’m not the only one who pointed out the costumes and Ralph Lauren/Creed collection in his review
I will always see Dame as misguided and given the push he needed to right himself by Donnie in the match. Head cannon is dame went on a little bit after to establish himself as better.
Of all the workout-routine-DINGs I think Jonathan Major hits the hardest. That man is built like a tank. And for me it came as a surprise because all the sparring/training shots before he was grunting and sweating in baggy clothes.
This movie really didn’t feel like a ‘first time director’ movie, felt tight and concise, like MBJ’s been directing for years. Also helped that there was a clear shift in directorial style, as this was the first time Creed’s truly on his own, making his own legacy and fighting his own past demons without any prior Rocky character influence, trainer or villain. Would it have been better with Sly? Maybe, you can tell the exact scene where he would’ve been written in, but I think the movie does just fine without him.
this is my favorite movie because the anime influences the artistic-ness of it because of the sport of boxing because of the emotions in this movie and you ar eon eof my favorite channels on youtube because of the way you cover movies
The only problem I had was the rush to the fight between Dame and Adonis. Another great upload by CinemaWins ✊🏽
"I need to talk to you" is definitely never a positive text. Parent or not. Spouse or not. It is always negative.
What about just friendships in general?
The reason why they all got so annoyed with Dame after the fight is because how brutal he was during it. Whilst boxing in just punch the portrayal of that fight was dame isn’t like a professional but a brute , a street fighter , and he nearly left the guy dead , it was just very brutal
Creed is perhaps the most underrated trilogy in the modern era. All three movies are so frickin solid it's ridiculous
The barking noise is manufactured but serves a purpose, exhaling during a punch means you can't have the wind knocked out of you(thereby being stunned) and also the psychological aspect of igniting your fighting spirit
Nipsey love from CW was unexpected and Absolutly loved
Great movie
Great soundtrack
Great cast
Great video
Soundtrack was so gas
You can tell Majors, Coogler, and Jordan based a lot of Dame's style on Tyson.
Request for Everything Great About Bullet Train, please?!
Idk why, but this movie felt *slightly* rushed and I think it could’ve been 30-45 minutes longer. They could’ve touched on Dame’s internal struggles after being released form prison a tad bit more, and they definitely should have shown at least 1 championship defense from Dame after defeating Felix w/ a few additional highlights from a few other defenses before eventually challenging for Adonis’ belt.
Despite that, the movie was great.
@ 11:44 is that the food joint from the movie " Next Friday " ? When Pops gets the call that ' Craig is in trouble ' .
Regarding your analysis of the fight between Felix and Dame, Dame did actually win because of his dirty tactics, not in spite of them. Yes, he's skilled and gritty, but Felix is the faster, stronger, and more skilled fighter. He wasn't taking Dame seriously as a contender, and Dame used dirty tactics through the first two rounds to severely unbalance him. By the time he stopped playing around, his left arm was already useless and he was disoriented. If he'd stopped playing sooner, he would've won by a landslide, and this is shown by him landing a combo at the second round that knocks a tooth out of Dame's mouth even through the mouth guard.
Solid solid video for an awesome movie! I absolutely loved your analysis and I appreciated your insights. I observed most of them myself when I was watching the movie but I could never dream to put them so eloquently in words 👍🏾.
I admit that I felt a little weird about how the villain was portrayed in this movie when I first saw it in theaters because they made him very hard to hate for most of the movie; I felt great sadness for him and about him at the end and felt mixed about that, it wasn't until after I thought about what I had seen that I really really appreciated who he was and how he was portrayed. It's always great when you have a truly diabolical villain that gets your blood going such as the villain in Guardians of the Galaxy 3, but real life villains are usually far more complex and things most often are not black and white. Michael b. Jordan did a stellar job in the director seat and that movie was that rare great third movie. It was also strange not to see Rocky; I certainly believe they should have talked about him a little more, but I didn't feel as strongly as most people. I feel the torch passed beautifully in Creed one and two and it would have been a disservice to have Rocky in this one after having such a great finish and training a successor.
Also side note, thank you so much for uploading on nebula and giving us a double dose of great videos! The d&d movie was shockingly super fun and good and your takes were great in that as well😂👍🏾
I honestly had a thought that it could be a good alternate ending where Donnie actually ended up killing Dame like Drago killed his father and seeing his guilt at an all time high and then him having to deal with that
One of the best of the year so far. Jordan crushed his directorial debut and Majors stole the show.
Another win is during the training montage for Adonis, J cole’s Adonis interlude borrows the same flow from doctor Dre’s “the watcher” that plays as the film opens!
Dame is perhaps one of the most subtlely (and overtly) terrifying villains in movie history. I've been around people with heavy trauma, mental illness, and violent tendencies. Even just normal scenes, like Dame talking to Bianca and Adonis around the fire, were filled with so much tension because Majors feels like he could snap at any moment. I was constantly afraid of what Dame might do to the people around him, knowing that if he went off, there would be basically no stopping him. Most if not all of that danger and tension comes from the immensely fantastic performance of Majors. He mastered the little ticks, lingering glances, and shifty body language of someone who is imbalances and ferocious, but is trying to keep it contained.
He is a villain. To say he isn't is weird and I think you're giving Dame too much credit. He's a villain. He's a bad man. But he's not evil. Most real life villains are victims and Dame is no different.
4:52, funny you mention that because I swear in Quantumania when Kang and Scott are fighting, Majors does the exact same “barking”. Maybe it’s just a coincidence. Go back and watch that final fight.
He does it in both of his characters sort of his thing
I love that drago is like the "Villain before and after you unlock them as a playable character" meme in this movie. Like he got nerfed
I would absolutely love to see you continue reviewing the rest of the bay verse transformer movies sometime some! 🙏
I’m sorry cinema wins guy but you have no idea how much damage an intentional elbow does to the face, that Damian boot licking is wild
I disagree with your comments on Dame not being a bad guy: dude's a piece of work from the very beginning, and he had everything planned. He didn't just want to become the heavyweight champion, he set out to destroy the Creed name.
You can see this very early on, in the restaurant scene, when he already starts to manipulate Adonis through guilt and manages to get in his gym. For the first hour, Adonis lets Dame walk all over him even with Duke's warnings and Bianca's uneasiness.
When Duke ends up beating Chavez, that's on Creed, and I think the others react normally. Chavez was their guy and because of Adonis's misplaced feelings of guilt, Chavez gets beaten up and loses the title; and Dame is unleashed, drops the timid persona and is on track to obliterate the Creed legacy. Of course it's a boxing match and anything can happen, but everyone told him not to agree to it and yet he went to his fighter, the guy he's actually supposed to look for, and told him that it was alright. The scene in which Creed convinces Chavez's mother is so painful to watch, because you can see how deep down he knows he's sending Chavez to a fight he strongly suspects he will lose, but is so overpowered by Dame that he feels compelled to ignore his gut and what everyone else is telling him.
Also, the fact that "Drago's fine" at the end doesn't excuse that Dame went all Tonya Harding on him. That's some despicable stuff and could've ruined his career, and Dame never even pays for that.
It takes Chavez getting KO'd and his mom's death, but Creed eventually toughens up and fights Dame because at that point it's the only solution left. I think saying that Dame is not so bad in this movie cheapens the concepts regarding masculinity that this movie tackles. Dame is a villain, a sympathetic one at that, because of his past, but he's definitely the bad guy and he would've become a monster if Adonis hadn't stopped him at the end.
yeah, it almost feels like this guy's being deliberately obtuse when it comes to overlooking many apsects of Dame's character
@@jamesphelan3285to be fair his whole shtick is pointing out the best in stuff.
Here’s another layer to the fact that they played Dre and j cole for 2 scenes. The Dre song is obviously called the watcher as you said but the j cole song playing during the montage actually sampled the beat and the flow of the same song
5:12 You had it right the first time. Too few bullies get a taste of humble pie.
We applauded it in Rocky V, we applaud it now.
Love that we see both of them training. They could have easily only shown Donnie's training montage but they make it clear that Daim isn't taking it easy against Donnie
My only main criticism of this is I WISH the Final fight was longer. Felt like it was over so quickly.
0:25 Not gonna lie my mane takeaway was whoa Creed has a poster of the Astray Red Frame on his wall. I know MBJ is Gundam fan but I didn't expect him to pick something relativity obscure to those outside it's fandom.
One thing I noticed in the phone call that dame calls out donnie. Is that when he says that Apollo would be ashamed. It takes him 3 tries to say Apollo. He knows its a low blow but he decided to go that far.
Always love to find a fellow Stadio listener out in the wild! Love the content as always 🫶🏼 long live Musa & Ryan !
Loved this movie! Cant wait to see more of creed! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤
Can you please do jack the giant slayer
anyone notice that the opening dre song and the training montage song both open up with "things just ain't the same"
My head canon is that Wood Harris is playing Avon Barksdale after getting out of the joint.
17:36 the DBZ punch
I might not always be on time but I’m always ready. Request 38 for Speed Racer!
one thing im suprised he didnt talk about how they're wearing black in white more of the contrast
@6:30 is straight from DBZ, during the Buu saga when Majin Vegeta and Goku fought.
The noises Dame makes is realistic
most of the time when you box you make sounds
My mom love that old lady scene in the final act with game's entrance
I literally watched this movie on a bus across my country and really enjoyed it even though I never hear about this movie before
Every time I watch a boxing movie I remember that there is scientific precedent that it is entirely possible to kill a human being with one punch
Not LIKELY but it CAN happen if your luck goes the wrong way
Imagine you and your buddy try to rob donnie. He has the gun and runs away leaving you alone with just donnie 😬
R.I.P
I really loved the line from Duke when they're discussing Creed's body.. "You're old, and you're broken." It really raises the stakes for the fight, he's not the heavyweight champion anymore. Wish that got caught in the video!
It's like a callback to Rocky Balboa before the training montage
I be waiting to see if things I liked make the count, like the audio on Dames tooth lodged in his mouthpiece 🔥
I think your next video should be on John Boorman's Excalibur.
Dame's delivery is so reminiscent of an institutionalized man with a singular and driving focus. His character felt both actualized and developmentally arrested. Major's played the hell out of that role
Got to love MBJ's anime fandom on full display, but the prop team didn't do their homework when they have the Gundam Astray Red Frame on a shelf years before its actual release.