Everything GREAT About Creed!
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- Опубликовано: 24 фев 2023
- Creed III is coming to theaters next week! So what better time to finally tackle this masterpiece. Is it as good as Rocky? Iunno. Here's everything right with Creed!
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There's no reason this movie should be as good as it was. After that many sequels, then making a legacy sequel and it being this heart felt, this sincere and moving. And this well acted - I doubt many people would argue at Tessa Thompson or Michael B Jordan's acting skills, but Stallone is honestly criminally under rated.
i mean he is the only one who got an oscar nomination out of it.
Underrated? I dunno about that. Other than ppl who like Stallone the person. As an actor he's played the same guy in every movie he's been in I think. I'm not stranger to liking bad actors. I love Seagal, he's hilarious...but I'd never call him underrated. Stallone didn't act in this movie. He memorized lines.
@Nubian Caynes can you walk on a set with about 50 to hundred ppl and "memorize lines" while making the audience believe it? If not I think you should humble yourself lol
@@i360pindrop I can. But that's not very humble. So I'll say this. I don't mean to diss the guy, his era of actor were measured differently than say Johnathon Majors. Actors today are expected to disappear in their roles. Stallone was expected to be Stallone. But I attribute his success to his public persona and likeability (to his target audience).
@@nubiancaynes2128 hmmm I can understand you're reasoning. Actually very well put similar to The Rock n Kevin Hart style of acting. Do you act or do plays?
"Throwing body shots like he's Rocky Balboa, going upstairs like he's Apollo Creed!"
That line alone deserved at least 10 wins, man.🥺
Bro the line where they say “he’s not only the same sake of Apollo Creed. He’s the living embodiment” 100 wins
500
If he was to win every single great line this video would be like a hour long
Max!!
He didn’t win the final fight enough imo, “fight in a phone booth” part where they just go at each other should’ve got a win too
The knockout where Donnie sees a vision of Apollo before standing up “like a man possessed” is one of my favorite scenes in movies ever.
It reminds me of Tyson fury
No flashback worked, then Apollo's fight kicked in and that's what got him up
I literally just watched the “Everything Wrong With” and even he was giving praise. That’s how you know it’s good
Ok
@Itachi Is superior to you Mostly due to a different writer. The reason 1 was done so well was because of how the movie wanted to do something different with Adonis's character. In 2, they just rehashed the original story instead of a Creed vs His fathers-killer's-son role.
@Itachi Is superior to you shut up bot
@Itachi Is superior to you you gonna copypasta this under every comment? 😂
I don't watch cinemasins, half the time it's obvious they didn't even watch the film with how stupid their criticisms are, just as bad as Red Letter Media.
Fun fact: Danny Wheeler (31-0-0 guy at the 3:00 mark) is played by real-life boxer Andre Ward, who hasn’t lost a fight since he was 12 years old.
All that to say, the “oh crap” look from Adonis was well warranted 😂
If your opponent’s ring name is Son of God, get ready for a rough time.
When I went to watch the movie he was in the theatres watching it too in the Bay Area. Cause that’s where he’s from.
He's such a good boxer, like insanely talented and maximum dedication
Also recently inducted into the Hall of Fame
S.O.G !!!!!
17:47 It’s been a while since I’ve watched them but I think this line is a reference to the original film. Mickey constantly told Rocky not to pursue any women because “women weaken legs.” In this scene, Rocky is telling Donnie something similar
It's also just a real life thing. Unsure if there's any actual proof/science behind it but the belief is that you *Jawn* before a fight, or a big game, or any strenous sporting activity, you lose testosterone that's in your body and it puts you at a disadvantage.
Its just a widely known idea that sex before a match will wear your legs out. There's more too it but that's all the scene was trying to convey that everyone involved knew what he meant.
They actually reference the "women weaken legs" line in Creed 2 verbatim
@@michaeltuohy4010 Someone tell Tyson that because he did that all the time
@@RazorO2Productions yeah, but Tyson was an animal. He didn't have to care about shit like that, clearly.
You know I never even considered how guarded Rocky must have become after getting betrayed by Tommy Gunn in Rocky V until you brought it up. Sure Adonis is Apollo's son, but Rocky's been burned by a lot of people so it would make sense why it took him visiting Adrian to move him forward with helping Adonis train.
15:59 August 2015 I lost my grandfather due to a stroke in the brain stem. I was out from football practice for two weeks spending time in the hospital as the docs tried different treatment options.
I ran up and down the stairs, did Pushups in the waiting room, everything I could to stay in shape and get my head right. And every single nurse, doctor, and PA I passed on the stairs cheered me on.
Seeing these moments in the film really got to me, because it reminded me of that time in my life.
Micheal B Jordan fits perfectly as Apollo’a son. He also has great chemistry with Stallone.
One of my favourite details in this film is that Adonis has both his surnames on his shorts
I saw this movie in the cinema and by the end of the final fight I was exhausted on my seat, sweating and breathing heavily, I might as well have fought on that ring, that's when I realized that this movie caught the essence of the old Rocky movies, I just hope and prey that for Creed 3 even without Stallone on it they still respect Rocky legacy...
I've heard good things about it so far!
Two semesters ago, I took a screenwriting course about how to write characters and character arcs. This was one of the movies shown for it.
I'm a 51 year old Marine. I grew up with Rocky movies.
This is my favorite one.
I am sobbing just watching this review.
Thank you for this, CinemaWins.
Thank you for your service
Thank you for your service
The final shot with the two of them at the top of the museum steps looking out at Philadelphia together with Ludwig’s score playing…it’s somehow still my favorite moment in this movie which is full of amazing moments.
And the preceding walk up the stairs too. All the times we’ve seen Rocky sprint up those steps, and this was by far the most inspiring time because of what it represents. The fight Rocky had to undergo in this movie made every other opponent he’s ever faced seem like nothing by comparison.
When it all culminates in that Rocky pep talk and Adonis says he wants to prove he isn't a mistake, it gives me chills and a tear to the eye every time.
It hit a lot of men and women right in the feels. The feeling that we need to prove that we were put here for a reason. And that we have to do something great to prove it.
It is something very special that we get to enjoy a series maturing like this. Stallone is bringing something new and different to Rocky and its not only setting up a future for the series its also still being a role model to the fans who have grown with him. I am a mentor now, and my mentee means this much to me and I don't think I can express it this beautifully so I admire this version of Rocky.
9:15 I personally like to sum that entire win up in one sentence: "They're your opponent, not your enemy."
I'm a big fan of boxing movies, and have watched most all of them many, many times over the last 40 years. Creed probably did it the best. It certainly stands on some great shoulders, and the history it borrows boosts it in ways it wouldn't have on its own. But damn it delivers on every scene. Never a cheesy misstep, never a scene out of place. Everyone is a full character. The drama plays out exactly as the filmmaker wanted. I "believe" it more than even most of the other Rocky films. Belongs at or near the top of greatest sports/inspirational movies of all time. Thanks for doing this one.
What are your thoughts on Raging Bull?
@@lukepier9736 It's very good. One of the real greats. But not particularly inspirational as a sports story. More of a cautionary tale.
@@MatthewMe so if you compared it to Creed which would you say is the better boxing movie? I personally lean towards Raging Bull just because of De Niro.
@@lukepier9736 As a boxing movie, Raging Bull is perhaps more accurate and honest about the fate of many boxers. It's a particular type of character study, and De Niro puts on a great show.
Overall, I prefer Creed. But I don't fault anyone for preferring Raging Bull or arguing it belongs higher. Similar arguments are made for Rocky (1 and 2).
Crying Fist is a great boxing movie. You might enjoy it.
Rocky Balboa & Creed are both great movies. Stallone has gotten better with age & Jordan is incredible. Watching this makes me want to watch those two movies again.
You skipped one of my favourite bits. Adonis talking to Rocky for the first time in the restaurant about personal details of Apollo.
Rocky: How do you know all this?
Donnie: How do you think?
The look on Rocky's face when he realises who he's talking to... chills man.
I'm surprised you didn't give wins to Conlan's amazing entrance, or even more for the Leo Sporino fight. The way the camera was right up in the action making you feel a part of it, and I've never noticed stereo sound that clear before, with every sound source clearly coming from an appropriate depth and relative position to the camera/Adonis' head.
3:39
Maybe so, but it took them forever to build a statue of the real life Rocky, Joe Frazier.
(I know Chuck Wepner was the inspiration Sylvester Stallone used to write Rocky but hear me out on this)
Joe's from Philly, he worked in a slaughterhouse so he trained by actually punching meat, and he use to run the steps at the museum. He beat Muhammad Ali (The inspiration for Apollo Creed,) and he was known for having the most heart in the ring. Even when George Foreman knocked him down several times, he kept getting up. He's Rocky.
16:50 "move faster than I think rocky ever did" That line gave me chills. What a great franchise.
5:00 WHAT NO, WHAT, NO . I HAD NO IDEA LEE WATCHED FOOTBALL ( soccer ).
Ps. That goal he scored in his soccer league was amazing.technique, power, class all rolled into one player. A true diamond in the rough type player
IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME!!!
I wrote a whole thesis on my complicated feeling with boxing and why, as well as my defense case for it before I watched the whole video and saw pretty much got all those point so instead I'm gonna talk about all the boxing stuff I love in this movie and mistakes it made! YAY!💀💀💀
1. 2:40 The light heavyweight division is usually paper thin so the record and Donnie being able to knock him out is believable enough 😭
2. 2:54 Danny Wheeler is played by former 2 weight division world champion and hall of famer and one of my most favorite fighters out all time Andre Ward. And that was his real record when he retired
3. 4:11 time truly is undefeated and I just love that quote
4. 5:13 Leo Sporino is played by 26W-16L warrior Gabriel Rosado. One of my faves, he's never won a title unfortunately but he's a DAWG, has an amazing resume despite the losses and always puts on a show. I've never met anyone that dislikes him.
5. 5:13 Boxing promoters are the worst thing about boxing and I'm just gonna leave it at that
6. 6:21 Jawn! :)
7. 7:28 I always hated it when the bell sounded only for coach to tell me to keep going😭 painfully relatable, literally
8. 7:55 EVERY BOXING GYM HAS A MIRROR!!! almost as essential as gloves or a jump rope. not a lot of people understand how important it is to actually SEE how ur whole body is moving when u throw a punch (ik it's filmed in a real gym but still). kinetic chain and all that
9. 8:38 not everyone does it but it's important for some fighters to get up early so u can get in as much training as possible so you can rest and recover the rest of the evening which is arguably the most important.
10. 9:06 ik he's an actor and he's actually gotten a lot better :D, but Jordan's pad work and form looks terrible 😭
11. 9:13 accurate
12. 9:49 it's not that hard lol. It's all about rhythm and practice but it can be tricky for new people.
13. 10:19 everyone gets nerves before a before a BIG fight. if u get a chance to meet a fighter and they say no they're lying💀 also that's a real ref but idk his name.
14. 12:11 trainers (the British guy specifically) don't do this
15. 13:16 you might think it's unrealistic that he could get a title shit just cuz of his last name but you'd actually be surprised how often outside of the top 15 get cherry picked 🙄
16. 16:25 for the film's purposes Jordan looks great but irl being as bulky as him just weighs you down and gases u out faster and it actually takes power off ur punches. Look up Anthony Joshua
17. 17:21 this type of press conference jawing and stuff is usually for show but a lot of the time it's real genuine HATE all caps😭. Look up Alycia Baumgardner vs Milkaela Mayer
18. 19:05 the fight woulda been stopped right here irl and Donnie woulda lost all respect all the BoXiNg ExPeRtS around the world would clown him and say he's got a glass jaw when I'm reality it was just a good shot
19. 19:26 usually the ringside doctor would do this, not the ref. and any respectable trainer wouldn't allow this fight to go on, title or not. I'm disappointed in u Ricky :(
20. 20:00 accurate
22:22 agreed
21. 22:50 if Drago didn't kill him the most that would happen is he would probably get his boxing license suspended for like a year. But death rarely happens IN the ring so idk what the consequences are for that🤷🏽♂️ also exhibitions rarely ever get THAT heated. The ref shoulda stopped it
This movie brought me to tears SEVERAL times. Sly is so massively underrated an actor and writer, it's borderline criminal. I honestly would pay to see you do everything great about every single Rocky movie, because every single one of them (yes, even Rocky V) have something wonderful to talk about.
That subtle Steven Segal burn 🔥
19:35 As an adopted kid, with great parents, that make moment make me cry every time and makes the movie for me. Even with them, due to a bunch of internal and personal stuff, it feels like that sometime.
I relate to characters like Peter Parker and Clark Kent for similar reasons, but hearing this felt different, huge, and needed. Whatever Creed 3 holds, this will still probably wind up feeling like the best in the series, the whole series, for me
This film is an absolute masterpiece in filmmaking. Everything from Ryan Coogler's brilliant direction, the beautiful performances from Jordan and Stallone, the phenomenal cinematography, and the fantastic musical score! I can't get enough of how amazing this film is!
That cycle training montage does it for me all the time. This is a great movie.
The chemo stuff is too real. You have good days, bad days, and days that you wish had never happened. You can fight hard and still lose. Ultimately though you cling to the stuff that makes you feel "normal" the best you can. My dad worked on cars until the neuropathy made it too hard.
You make every effort to do things that fill your life with something worthwhile. It's the space between the beats that you find matters most.
Man this movie hits me differently now.
Rocky's speech to his son in Balboa is hands down the greatest dialogue ever written
The final scene, at the top of the steps, really hit me. Feels like Donny and Rock leaving room for creed; father, son and father figure. Losing your dad, barely knowing him (or not at all) leaves a huge gap, but they’re still a part of you.
I sadly missed out on the Creed films when they first came out, because around 2015-2018, I had to cut down on cinemagoing for a bit for financial reasons. It's been a treat catching up recently and I can't wait for Creed 3.
One thing that's amazing about Creed is that it respects what came before it as a spinoff sequel. Continuing a legacy name out of respect rather than tearing down what came before it to prop up what's new. I gotta revisit these movies and then see 3.
@5:38 thats the movie I want to see though.
About that boxer that trains everyday and all day who makes his bread by taking on fights he knows he can’t win.
But still gets up everyday to train. That needs to be a movie.
It’s not a movie and it doesn’t stick with it too long, but the first season of the anime Megalobox starts on a similar premise - underground boxer who knows he’s better than where he is taking dives in fixed matches. Not fully what you’re looking for but it’s a damn good boxing show, I’d recommend it
Yes! Thank you CinemaWins! This was the video I was dreaming of and it didn't dissapoint!
I just watched this movie recently for the first time, without ever having seeing the Rocky films prior, and even I absolutely loved it despite not liking movies as of late. I literally cried four times for the first movie, then four more times for what I've seen of the second movie so far. One of the most amazing movies I have ever seen if not the single greatest.
Gabe Rosado who fights with Donnie in this "one take battle" actually said that they filmed the fight few times, everytime was a "one take".
Now you've teased us EGA Good Will Hunting. Now it has to happen.
Oh my gosh, I’ve been begging for these movies for like a year now thank you
8:29 I'm a natural night owl, far from a morning person, but my day has to start early because of work. I need someone like Rocky in my life to get that energy when I wake up.
I love this movie and the second one, they have so much heart and that's the essence of the Rocky films.
"Time takes everybody out, it's undefeated" - Rocky Balboa (Creed)
17:50 it's a callback to the line earlier that "women weaken legs" (itself a callback to Rocky 1), which refers to the belief that orgasming the night before a fight will weaken your stamina.
just when i thought i couldn't love this movie more.
I'm not even remotely into boxing, but by the gods, I love the Rocky and Creed movies. so excited for Creed 3!
I was watching this thinking "both Jordan and Thompson have been in the MCU. That's kinda cool." And then I realized, wait, crap, *so has Stallone* because the MCU is all-encompassing, all-powerful, and no one can escape its grasp.
Fun fact during the morning scene the director wanted him to throw water in him to wake him up but Stallone didn’t think it fit he’s character so he suggested him playing music instead
Read this when the scene came on
I love all the Rocky/Creed films, they’re all so inspiring no matter what. But the one thing that bugged me about the character of Adonis is, Apollo seriously had an affair towards the end of his life and had a bastard as a result? Idk why but that kinda tarnished how cool and inspirational Apollo was. Well, to me at least. Also, he and Mary Anne had kids (shows them in Rocky II), but they strangely aren’t even acknowledged in these new films. That being said, I still love the character and the films and can’t wait for the third one next week.
I never knew they had kids. I must've overlooked it when I saw the movie as I got older
He's a fictional boxer. What's so inspirational about Apollo Creed
@@cadillacdeville5828 yeah go check it out. It’s the scene where Apollo is reading fan mail to his wife on the balcony of his home.
@@Eggy79 go watch all of his scenes in Rocky III and get back to me.
Being cool and inspirational doesn't make someone infallible. Everyone stumbles and has moments of weakness. Some worse than others.
There's no reason why you should be making me enjoy these movies more than I did in theatres. You honestly make me enjoy these movies as much as I did the first time and then some! Love the videos, appreciate your work in a very difficult time in my life.
From the first movie I've ever seen him in to now, watching Stallone become a master of his craft makes me feel this weird sense of pride. I can't explain it but I know that's what I feel. Here's to one of the most underrated actors out there.
And You Thought It Would Fail: When the film was first announced, many fans were less-than-enthusiastic, saying that Rocky Balboa had been a perfect send-off for the series and that this film would likely be a poor follow-up. As it turned out, it garnered even more critical acclaim than Rocky Balboa and made back its budget in its first weekend alone. It also brought an Oscar nomination for Stallone, his first since the original Rocky.
This movie will make you go on a run and you'll feel good about it
Watching Rocky Balboa got me into the Rocky movies when I was younger cause I was always the underdog when it came to sports. I ran cross country and track and I always tried my best but I got beat because I didn't have that natural talent. But knowing that no matter how hard I kept getting beat, I knew I always had the chance to get back up and try again like Rocky. Also Creed and Rocky Balboa both made me cry so there's that too. I always appreciate the kind of motivation that makes you want to be better you than before instead of being the best.
You should do everything great about Monsters Inc next
You had me at "With alms wahd opun".
Absolutely amazing, never stop this channel.
It gets people through hard times my dood.
should've had a win for the ring walks, Adonis walking to tupac All Eyes On Me to show this is the biggest moment of his career and Conlan coiming out with a guy blowing flames like; like a knight facing off a dragon holy fuck that scene gave me chills
i love that they tease us with the original theme throught out the movie, and than twist the knive in the end 🥲
I remember when I first watched this, there was a serious lack of interest. Nobody was talking about it and I was like, I think this is going to be good. After I saw it I was telling everyone to watch, I was bringing it up when it had nothing to do w/ the previous conversation.
I adored Creed, i haven't watched the second one cause i'm sceptical, but hearing 3 is coming out soon makes me want to watch it
Creed II is nowhere near as good as the first one, but it's not outright terrible.
PLEASE do everything great about the first 3 Rocky movies!
Been waiting for this one for a while
I've lost count of how many times I watched Creed, and his final training montage still gives me chills in the good place in my brain whenever it comes on.
I just wanna say I have never seen this movie but the moment the horns cut in with the OG theme? I wasn't expecting to tear up watching this video yet here we are.
The "it's you against you" line is paraphrased from Ray Lewis talking about effort, as effort is between you and you.
I’ve been watching this channel since it first started and this video is the first I’ve cried throughout
Absolutely loved this franchise!!!
And love the channel!!!
I know I’ll be the only one asking over and over but if you could do Little Miss Sunshine and/or The Full Monty, my life would be fulfilled. Look up their numbers and awards, and forget everything you remember and heard. The relationships in these movies WILL make you laugh, cry, and will destroy your “feels”… REALLY watch these movies, they’re incredible. Thank you!!
I would have never expected a Sean Dyche reference in a CinemaWins video but here we are! absolutley love it XD
i also think the commitment to philly artists for the soundtrack deserved a win, and more of an la focus in the second movie.
I’ve been waiting for this video for so long!
I think boxing and other combat sports definitely should exist, but I get what you’re saying. People have died and gotten hurt, of course, but action is emotion. Violence and martial arts are how we express cultural values and are a (mostly) safe way to express emotions. There’s a TTRPG I’m playing called Gubat Banwa that’s really good with this. Great video, though. I love this movie
Great video, as always. My favorite movie about a similar sport (UFC) is Warrior with Tom Hardy, Joel Edgerton, and Nick Nolte. So well done, amazing performances (Hardy and Nolte especially), and I really think you'd enjoy it
pls do “Everything Great About Real Steel”
"Arms wide open" was a nice touch; and a double meaning if you know it.
He didn't talk about it but the "He Bleed Like Me" when he cuts conlin hits different for me
Thank you so much for making this! One of my favorite movies
that shade at everton was hilarious. liverpool fan? great video!
Rocky is probably my favorite film character of all time. No character hits me in the heart like good ol Rocko. When he says "You're a Creed, and I love ya kid" I freakin' bawl like a baby every single time.
This is my new fave channel! Just brilliant!
Been waiting on this for a long time thanks
I really like that moment where you sounded like Stewie from family guy. Also could you please do a video on Wolfwalkers and all the other cartoon saloon movies
I really love the boxing stats they would throw up in the first film, and wish they kept that Japanese media trope in the sequels.
the "arms wide open" joke made me chuckle harder than any other pun ya did - gg my man
In a way, this went step for step with the OG Rocky only this one had Creed's son getting the attention of the champ after he tried so hard to keep his true lineage a secret. (In the modern age we live in where the average person is a paparazzi just cause they have a phone with a camera, yeah. Luck with that one.) What I loved about this one was how they leaned into the lineage well without overdoing it. How organic the relationship between Adonis and Rocky grew with time and it wasn't just immediate.
Creed 2 served as a super nice postmortem on the events of Rocky IV and I'll wax poetic about it next week. I think it's more emotionally gripping than this one was, for a lot of different reasons. I also like the way it blended something from Rocky 2 and meshed it perfectly with something that went down in Rocky 4. Oh speaking of, finding out who won that third fight in Creed filled in the blank as to why Apollo took the exhibition with Ivan. Rocky sorta kinda spelled out why he lost it apart from being across the ring from a PED enhanced Russian cyborg in human form throwing haymakers at him.
Loved this movie, loved the second and excited to see where they take it for the third movie. (Hopefully it's the finale.)
BEEN WAITING ON THIS FOR SO LONG. THIS IS MY FAVORITE MOVIE ALL TIME.
Speaking as a huge boxing fan, most trainers would only agree to keeping the fight going as long as that's what their fighter wants, and even then some won't risk it. Joe Frazier's corner forced him to quit during his last match with Muhammad Ali, even though he insisted on continuing. But he became completely blind in the fight because his only seeing eye became so swollen he couldn't see, so his trainers knew he'd be screwed.
The thing is, also, a lot of managers DO book their fighters in fights they think they can win and they gradually increase the difficulty. They’ll never put their fighter in a fight with someone that’ll completely outclass them.
As a martial artist, boxing among my arts, it’s about confidence. Most fights are won because you’re confident things will go your way. Plus, there are some fighters whose egos are way high. They lose, and they’re not a fighter anymore. They’re someone in shape that can throw punches.
There’s a major philosophy that every fighter and martial artist has. There’s a difference.
I do kickboxing and the wee thing at 9:25 and onward about how we are best friends after is so true
And a cut man or trainer taping his boxer so they can get the correct answer on "How many fingers am I holding up" has happened too.
18:32 Now that I think about it, you probably could’ve mentioned his workout routine earlier in the video. For example, around 16:16
20:54 The singing bit gave me a good chuckle.
5:18 Kevin Grieb is not undefeated. The card is WINS - LOSSES - DRAWS
Since draws in boxing are rare they are always last.
You can confirm this with Rocky Balboa movie, the movie put Rocky's card before the fight with Mason Dixon starts.
Hope I could help out! Love you channel!
While I have yet to watch Creed on my own time, I just got to give a shout out to Ryan coogler in general. the dude just knows how to make a damn good movie.
I've been waiting for this!!!
Yes! Can't wait to see the other 2!
Great spin off film. I can't wait for Creed 3 next week!
i always wanted you to cover the creed’s!!!
woah the timing, i just rewatched creed yesterday lol
Finally I've been waiting so long for this
Emotionally stable? What's that? never heard of it in my life.
Dude, you actually made me cry, and I've never watched a single Rocky movie. Good job, seriously, awesome.
This first movie was honestly perfection