Everything Wrong With Creed III in 22 Minutes or Less
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Creed III is the third movie in the Creed franchise, but the 28th movie in the Rocky franchise. It's pretty good. It's got sins, though.
Thursday: adventure sins.
Remember, no movie is without sin. Which movie's sins should we count next?
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Creed 4 is gonna be Adonis coming out of retirement to fight Jake Paul.
I'm from the next town over from where the Paul brothers grew up.
Suburban spoiled West Shore kids. That's all they are.
@@mikemurphy2932They definitely spit roasted mikes girlfriend growing up
@@kennywilkinson913hahaha wtf
Jake Paul the next Muhammad Ali
Ok I’m not gonna cap 😂
Jose Benavidez who played Felix probably walks around in real life at 165 and they have him being a heavyweight champ in this movie is crazy.
Camera adds 20lbs lol
Even Michael B Jordan is a bit small for an heavyweight
@@anthonyescalera7253 he still didn’t look like a heavyweight
Lol heavyweights walk around twice the weight 😂🤣 165 is basically middleweight
it is just common for boxing movies to always be heavyweight champions even though creed and rocky should be middleweights.
My big problem with this movie other than Rocky and the other Creed children missing the funeral, is that he got over his mother’s death real quick. Also wish we could have actually seen more of the final fight instead of fast forwarding past almost all the rounds.
Oh yeah. And Dame clearly cheating on his fight with Felix and not getting called out/disqualified for it.
@@vijayanand6650genuinely in reality that fight would've ended almost immediately
@@Dave-gm7vi not if the ref didn’t see it.. they rarely go back on their calls
MB Jordan has about as much emotional range as Jim Brown did.
exactly, I actually thought this made the movie feel more realistic and immersive. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a something dirty in a real fight and yelled at the ref through the screen@@buckfidencoincidencetheori7200
Honestly, look at Felix and then look at Drago....did they REALLY think that Felix had a chance against Drago?
Exactly
Casting was off in this one
How is Felix considered a heavyweight lol he is definitely a middleweight
Exactly
Yeah Jose Benavidez is in real life a welterweight/light middleweight. Not sure what was up with that casting, or why everyone who shared a ring with Adonis is now a heavyweight up from light heavyweight. They should have made a big deal about Adonis challenging Drago in Creed 2 and having to gain 20 pounds to make weight. Nope, he's just suddenly fighting another former light heavy for the heavyweight title. These guys are absolutely tiny to be fighting modern heavyweights.
Felix is the least believable looking heavyweight in the franchise
the idea that Felix was in the same weight class and was set to fight Drago took me out of the movie lol
Exactly! Idk why they chose Jose Benavidez to play a heavyweight, they could have at least used his bigger brother David, he looks more like a heavyweight than Jose tbh.
😂💯
@@evanmaldonado9799 or just get Wilder you know an actual heavyweight lol
@@evanmaldonado9799Maybe because Jose was the better actor out of the two.
They did Drago so dirty in this, yet they also gave him a huge compliment. They removed him from the equation (which was shitty) because he was so OP, and surely would have SHIT on Dame.
Eh maybe, maybe not, but Drago should have been the one to fight Dame instead of Felix.
@@ImAgentKbut drago would’ve ended up winning meaning the consequent events wouldn’t occur
The glass floors are to facilitate communication with their deaf daughter.
This comment unlocked something I never would’ve known
Too true. @@tube58911985
Do you know this from experience or did you deduce it? Or was it completely obvious to you? Like almost all things?
@@Kognitosan I read it elsewhere and it clicked for me.
Wait, what?
Is that really a thing?
I thought that he would mention about how Felix and Dame look like they are two completely different weight classes 😂
and how everyone that Adonis fought as a light heavy in Creed 1 are not only now all heavyweights, but fighting for the title.
I LOL at the Thanos part. You guys forget to sin the absence of Rocky in a Rocky universe movie
It’s called Creed.
Rocky shouldn’t need to always be present to make the story relevant…it’s a WHOLE world of people other than Rocky after all.
He should be dead already anyway, plus Sly AGREED it wasn’t his story anymore, it was only after the fact his ego got in the way because nobody argued with own statement.
The movie was infinitely better without him.
This is in connection to the Rocky universe but it’s not IN the Rocky universe… it isn’t about Rocky lmfao so how is it a sin?
@@SinSinny yes it definitely IS in the rocky cinematic universe. Creed is direct sequels to Rocky and they even mention rocky in this movie.
@@wizzydoesdallas3408 yea no shit Lmfao I said it’s not IN it bc this movie isn’t about Rocky. He is not a focus, factor, character nothing…..I thought that was understood but I guess not 😵💫
@@SinSinnybeing in the Rocky universe means it’s connected to the other movies thru shared characters and storylines. Creed is definitely in the Rocky universe. This part of the franchise just focuses on Adonis while the other 6 movies focus on Rocky.
I'm just sad this didn't start off with a "Killmonger, Valkyrie and Kang all walk into a bar" joke. 😢
Dang, I just realized that all the main characters in the movie were part of the MCU! 😂
One sin to CinemaSins for not knowing what a gundam is.
Facts😂
Oh, I bet they know, they were just trolling. Successfully. :P
Th3Birdman? That you?
No lie i was extremely disappointed 😢
Road man dialect
“He’s not gonna stop”
“He’s not thanos”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 this part killed me, movie definitely made him sound like a super villian at one point
Funnier that he's currently being built up to be more of a threat than Thanos in the MCU
I definitely cackled at that line!
I know 😭😭😭 he definitely fought dirty but all he did was in a boxing match
@@Kidkinsey I’m saying 😭😭 acting like he turned into a serial killer
You can't sin SANTA for going to a boxing match!! Give the man a fuckin break, he works hard!!
If we are being honest here, in real life Damian is getting out of prison to kill Adonis if he is truly that bitter and jealous of his success. It would've happened when Adonis was going out to his car and Dame was leaning on it or when maybe when Adonis confronted Dame at the beach. Sadly that is more realistic and happens all the time. Him getting out of prison to shit talk and become the heavy champ (even by dirty means) is waaaay more wholesome in comparison to what would actually happen lol
he wouldnt want to kill adonis just to be sent back to prison, he would want to kill him during a boxing fight so that its not illegal
Something I think I’m missing is it a sad moment between them at the end ?
Yeah they’re coming to realizations but, Dame is set for life now.
He just had two major fights, one where he became world champion and the other where he went toe to toe with the greatest boxer in this universe. I gotta assume he got paid in both those fights plus he now have a name.
So technically Creed did give Dame what he wanted
Two fights, minus taxes, promotors fee, trainer fee, sanctioning fees, and the fact we already see Dame spending lavishly after just one pro fight that he probably didn't make more than $750,000 on (he ain't getting paid big bucks as a last minute replacement with no boxing record) so Dame could very well be broke. It happened to Tyson, it happened to Balboa (fraud or no fraud Rocky still had a mansion, two lambo's, an AI robot from the future and god knows what else)
Love the breakdown. Was on point. You're probably no fun at parties though. Can't keep things real 24/7. Make believe is all we have left now.@@capitalcitygoofball1987
@@Kognitosan haha well I was actually the most fun at parties back in the day. But I'm a Rocky fan, boxing fan, and I did box some back in the day so I jump in and have some fun with this stuff when I can. Don't get me started on the Rocky timeline lol. I just felt that there was always a lot of internal logic to the plot that made sense in the Rocky films, even Rocky 5, but Creed 3 sort of tossed those in the river. Frustrating because I really liked Creed 1 and enjoyed Creed 2 despite those plot holes taking seed. And hey, I'm at work when I type these with a lot of downtime so hey, it's the company's dime. :)
The "horizontal block" as you called it, is actually a cross armed boxing guard. George Foreman used it.
I think that's why he made the "lean, mean grilling" quip.
I like all 3 of these movies for the most part, so THANK YOU for sinning the part where Dame refers to Felix as "some chump" when he was the active heavyweight champion. Although Dame did make Felix look like a chump with his "prison-fu" dirty boxing.
So, in regards to the “horizontal block”, I never came across it until I transitioned from sanda (Chinese kickboxing) to more of a Dutch style of kickboxing. It’s awkward at first, and I’m still not great at it, but it offers some great clinching’ possibilities in the ring; which makes sense given Damien’s style of boxing. Here’s a better guide to the forearm block.
The double forearm block is a valuable defensive technique that takes a lot of power off straights, hooks, uppercuts, and elbows. There’s not much to it; you simply bring both arms to your face horizontally. Some fighters like to transition into it from the long guard.
The double forearm block also serves as an entry point for clinch positions. It keeps you moderately protected while you close the distance on your opponent. The double forearm block can also be used to protect your body against punches and kicks. Just keep in mind that bringing both arms to your body leaves your head extremely vulnerable. A savvy opponent might feint just to get you to drop both hands towards your body before firing a powerful shot to your head.
George foreman was a master at this
It’s more common in boxing (especially before the 90’s). The idea is you guard one area super well while you use another aspect of your defence to protect the other half. Cross arm block your body and rely on head movement.
@@vincerobinson7668They knew that already. That’s why the “grilled” joke came right after he criticized the blocking style. Some sins are just for laughs.
@@vincerobinson7668Hence Cinema Sins making a reference to grilling 😆
i think it was a product of him training in prison
They wanted snacks so they hit the liquor store what’s not to get😂
They’re not called liquor stores outside of the “hood”. It’s called a *Market*
Most corner stores don’t sell chilly cheese fries….I’m almost positive that’s why he was confused.🤷♂️
@@jwdathefax377 well I grew up in Baltimore and a Store known for Liquor a couple blocks away also sold really good chili dogs, I heard they now sell sub sandwiches now too.
@@jwdathefax377the corner stores in SF on 3rd st sell Fried chicken, Chinese food and pizza .. True story 🤣🤣
4:00 I'm going to have to sin you for not realizing the pickle was on the cheese-topped patty and the top bun was open so that you can put condiments on your burger the way you like it.
"Stop what boxing hes not thanos hes not coming for your family"🤣🤣🤣 naaaaa bro i can't
I thought there’d be more assassins
🤣🤣
At least three of them.
It definitely would've made the film better if there were.
Well, everything is permitted...
Different creed 😂
Jeremy stating that sinning this movie for Rocky V’s issues …. Is him admitting he watched Th3 Birdman😂
I just want to point out that it is possible dude isn’t “too tired”, but that he was knocked down in his previous fight. Due to this, whatever athletic commission sanctioned the fight is now following the rules of boxing’s governing bodies and imposing a “medical suspension” of 30, 45 or even 60 days. This is extremely common these days and is an attempt to minimize the risk of serious brain injuries to fighters. Just saying.
Makes sense. Even if he wasn't knocked down, mandating recovery time and monitoring for any concussions or damage is smart.
I don't see how Muay Thai fighters are able to have as many fights as they do without dying. Connor had something like 30ish fights over his entire career. There are a lot of Muay Thai fighters in the triple digits. Some have several hundred.
But that still doesn't explain why ORTIZ got the shaft. lol
"Is there a time where getting pucnhed in the head was not dangerous"🤣🤣🤣
15:04, for a WHOLE trilogy the Apollo offspring have been nowehere. wouldn't that be a MAJOR epic storyline about them not feeling comfortable of this stray bastard kid take the reigns on their family name? that would be a HUGE hurdle as Donnie earns their acceptance. basically you would see Apollo split into 2 sides: his rich kids would reflect him in terms of showmanship and flare. Donnie represents his bare bones fighting prowess. as they realize the full collective of them forms a truer Creed and missing part of themselves they've never known since his death. DO THAT MOVIE
That may or may not aid a BOXING movie. It’s also brings gravity to the decisions that Maryanne and Adonis made. If he hadn’t lost Damian, he may not have even tried to box professionally.
@@MrWl4148 It would aid a boxing movie yes. Those kids still exist.
Rocky not appearing even for 1 second, gives it at least 10 sins more
I know this isn’t meant to be literal but culturally adonis would never call the cops on Dame. So that was never an option.
Yeah, this movie is tone deaf...but it ain't THAT tone deaf.
It wasnt supposed to be rigged he was fighting dirty.
And both Creed AND the trainer noticed it but not the ref?….You just accidentally gave this movie another sin!🤣
I’m willing to bet that Amara is the boxer in Creed 4
Bruh, this movie (as presented by this video, I haven't seen creed 3) is basically Black Panther story but with some changes. Even has killmonger..... AND Kang. You only briefly talked about marvel. IT WAS RIGHT THERE! WHERE'S THE SIN?!
Also, no shot Feelix was a heavyweight, much less the heavyweight champion.
00:25 Missed the fact that the time period they are saying young Creed was with a poster of Naruto Shippuden, didn't exist in an anime show until some time after 2008. He should be stuck in filler at that point.
The horizontal blocking is what George Foreman used to do
He knows…there’s a pretty slick joke about it right after he criticized the blocking style that I had a feeling was gonna go over peoples heads. Lol
@@jwdathefax377 leave yourself open to a lean mean grillin’
Lmao cinemasins knows the sweet science
@@buckfidencoincidencetheori7200 Lol yes!
Just finished watching Creed three and oh my God it was a lot better than I expected it to be! Jeremy, you’re a genius!
No hes not
Your expectations must be lower then a snakes wang.
It was good, but it does pale a bit compared to the previous Creeds.
@@jimb.7523that’s because it’s actually a creed movie not a rocky movie
I honestly love this damn movie despite it’s flaws.
The only problem I had with this movie is them hyping up Felix vs Drago, and the first thought that came to mind was…viktor is gonna do to Felix what his father did to creeds father😭😭
Yes, there are parallels between boxing and chess. It's a highly strategic sport on the highest levels.
Erik Killmonger vs Kang the Conqueror.
Dont forget the "1 cup".
1. That's the Philly Shell defense
2. They were mad that he purposely injured Felix
Rocky didn’t run though a desert but Rambo did. I think he got them mixed up.
The fight wasn't named after a terrible film... It was named after the 2nd best Rage Against The Machine album
What they should have done was have Dame knock out Felix while they were sparring (while fighting dirty of course), which had never been done before. Afterwards we find out someone secretly record it and sent it to Dame. When Adonis tells Dame hes not ready for a championship fight he then goes then goes to rival promoter of Adonis and shows him the video of him knocking out Felix. They then use that to negotiate a real fight which makes Adonis mad and further seprerates the two old friends
This whole movie I was like didn’t he go to prison FOR YOU? I was on his side the whole time haha
21:31 Rocky V is underrated.
I always liked that movie! 🥊
6:25-6:46 was the most unexpected natural pure laugh I’ve experienced in YEARS.
no Rocky = infinite sins
That slow mow double punch scene is likely due to Micheal B Jordan being a huge dragon ball fan. It’s a reference to Majin vegeta Vs Goku when they punched each other at the same time.
You're right he's not Thanos...he's Kang the Conquer and he was going up against Killmonger and Valkyrie.
I hope Stallone comes back for Creed 4. It should be the very end of Rocky’s story where he dies and then Adonis does his eulogy. At the end we see Adonis and his daughter Amara running up the Philadelphia stairs together.
Very very little chance. Stallone now has mad beef with the long time Rocky producers Irvin and David Winkler. Stallone even said he wasn't going to watch Creed 3. I think it has something to do with the planned Drago spinoff.
Kang vs. Kill Monger was a great fight
And KM was trained by the leader of the Ravagers.
@@vypernight while married to Valkyrie
@@michaelrobinson996 Oh damn, I completely forgot about her. Yes, while married to Valkyrie, and sparring with Razor Fist. Did we miss anyone?
@@vypernight according to Google, Spiderman's physics teacher and offer gale from ant man 🤣. Ultimate crossover
Please please please do The Sandlot. I'm just gonna keep asking.
Horizontal block is called "Cross-Arm Guard" which is usually used by guys like George Foreman and Ken Norton.
He knows….there’s a Forman joke in there right after he complains about it at around 11:33
Yes, headgear--and gloves especially--increase the likelihood of concussions. Mainly because with all that "padding" the head can be targeted constantly and can be hit at full force. And the padding itself just doesn't soften blows enough to matter (it can protect from bleeding, eye damage, jaw dislocations, and some nose impact though). In bareknuckle boxing jaw shots happen, but there's a lot less full force delicate hand bones on toothed bowling ball action and a lot more body shots.
Same with boxing gloves. To simplify what you said, more weight means more vibrations, more vibrations causes brain trauma.
and it's been proven your ability to decelerate your head after impact is what saves you from concussions. And headgear makes that much harder
I know a couple of people who went to prison, so I'm pretty sure that the ticket was taken out of the special box because he went to prison. The box can be used as a weapon, so most likely he was forced to or his keepers took it out of the box.
“Your car’s parked on the fire zone and he’s the asshole?”😂😂😂
This movie should have been signed for the ungodly response time of the police when they rolled up on Donnie and Dame. Two or three police cars show up for a fight and a gun pulled in the span of what, maybe two minutes.
can’t wait to see creeds daughter fighting jake paul in the next movie
"Is that.....SANTA?!?!?" 😂😂
0:30 That's Drift the Autobot samurai from Transformers.
Creed III: Kang v Killmonger. The Battle for the Multiverse.
P.S. I ❤ this movie btw.
Wow, I saw this movie. One of the last movies where Jonathan Majors participated after being ostracized from the cinema world.
One of the things that movie does so well with was how they really hit the emotional beats of Creed and his mom. Barbie was a movie that did a good job with the notion of motherhood but here in Creed III I thought they really sold how much she cared for his well being even if hiding the letters from him was not the right move in. When in the theater when she died that broke my heart and I cried... always tell your mom how much you love her. They love you more than anything even at times in life where not everything is seen as being right be either of you.🙏
Lol 😂
@@Iwanttodobetter what's so funny about what I said?
@@OrionInSpaceMost of it.
@@josephsalmonte4995 lmao then you are a sad person then
Yes, he is a sad person. Probably an incel, triggered by Barbie... And when the poor guy read "Barbi" it blew his mind, made him throw a tantrum and had to attack you personally... because he is sick.
You are right. He is sick.
I feel like you would have to have never seen a boxing movie before to believe there was a chance Adonis was ever going to lose that fight to Dame.
I can cut Jordan some slack bc this was his first movie as a director.
But a franchise movie definitely can't be this predictable, and he could have taken more notes from Coogler on how to elevate a familiar story.
Jose Benavides “Heavyweight?” Lmao!
12:06 Adonis is mad because he cheated and injured his protege greatly. With this and other movies i can tell Jeremy didnt watch the movie. Neither did whoever wrote that line. If you watched the scene you and know boxing you would be mad just like creed. That would also open the scene to more sins if you know boxing or have logic.
I watched it and I didn’t understand why they were all so mad either.
I heard that the sport of boxing actually started when one guy was so punchy that the burger he ordered came with the pickle outside of said burger resulting in burger ordering guy engaging in a fist fight with the chef who happened to be wearing oven mitts at the time that would later become the inspiration for the iconic boxing gloves used by all pugilists.
😅🤣
Oh my God, the Sherlock Holmes bit in the closing sent me. xD
11:31 yeah, it shows you don't know boxing lol.
@10:38 due to a younger sister and three younger female cousins I can tell you with absolute certainty that if Hillary Duff showed up it would be the SEVENTH Cinderella story not the sixth.
Continuity sin. flashback is from 2002 but the Naruto poster in his room is from post time skip Naruto which begins in 2005. Naruto is wearing his black headband which is post time skip, and the poster also has Tobi in the orange mask, and Tobi doesn't become important until 2007-2008 so that poster is definitely not 2002 accurate.
I gotta give cinema sins a sin for not mentioning that Crawford is in the movie
this is your funniest sin video. I've been dying the whole time
Something I noticed watching this, in the 2002 opening, adonis has a naruto shuppuden poster when it came out in 2007
I really wanted you to release this right after the Quantumania video because the 2 two movies with Jonathan Majors (Kang) came out 2 weeks apart. At the end of the video, you would play the mid-credit scene when one of the Kang's says: "They're beginning to touch the Multiverse... And if we let them, they will take everything we built." because Dame lost to a variant of Killmonger. Also, I'm disappointed you mentioned Thanos over Kang during that one scene.
Damn Rob. You don't miss much do you!
The beehive hairdo on the ring announcer should have gotten 2 sins
That crowd shot at 11:02 where he says “These 3 people are the same.” That entire crowd is made of copies of the same people, and that is mind-blowing!
11:28
it's called the crab defense, made famous by ken norton, tim witherspoon and george foreman. it's the most efficient way to block punches, the only true drawback is it limits countering opportunities.
no one show this guy the philly shell..
He went full galaxy quest 2 mins in lol
Still waiting on Drago I
Maybe he will get one now that Creed is retired.
There's never been so few people in a ring celebrating a 12th round KO in a world title fight.
George Foreman and Arthur Moore used that style of blocking. With a good reach advantage and distance management and reflexes it’s pretty damn effective
Archie*
The Clubber Lang sin and clip in the outtakes makes me wonder when we will see Creed IV featuring Clubber Lang Jr wanting revenge for “has been” Apollo Creed Training Rocky to beat his dad? 😜
In an earlier draft of the Rocky Balboa script, it showed Clubber Lang as a born-again Christian and part-time commentator. He was doing commentary for Rocky’s fight with Mason Dixon.
I feel like that could be an interesting route to take if they ever did want to bring the character back. In a way that gives him more dimensions than the cartoonish villain he was in Rocky III.
19:58 I'm so glad he said this because I thought I was the only one who thought that green effect made the scene look so fake and wonky
Comparing any Creed movie to Rocky 5 is an insult. Towards the Creed movies of course.
I just tell myself Rocky V doesn’t exist.
Creed movies are a insult to creed the band... 😂
@@IwanttodobetterI’m literally just following you down through the comment section watching you beg for attention while hiding tears behind laughing emoji’s.🤣🤣
Jeremy you get one Sin for not knowing what a Gundam is!!!
11:30 "grilling". Is that a reference to George Foreman, who used that same cross guard in his career?
Wow! You’re the first person I saw in the comments who caught that.😆
Should have said Duke took the day off and let Terry Silver train Creed during that tree punching scene.
It was made. *ding*
Let me guess In creed 4 he has to box a clone of himself at the world soccor tournament. "2 creeds 1 cup"
In the beginning that mech is the main Gundam from Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Astray. Which was out in 2002, but that model kit definitely wasn't made yet 🤓
The horizontal block he uses is a form of a philly shell.
HE'S NOT GONNA STOP!
That burger was opened faced... it wasn't on top of the burger...
That Sherlock bit was GREAT!!!!!
I watched this movie earlier this year. Good to see it here!
The horizontal block is an ode to former heavyweight contender Ernie Shavers who was one of the toughest fighters and feared of his era.
@11:30. the guard is called the cross guard. i use it in boxing. it's effective if you know how to use it right.
Nobody who just got out of prison is getting a title shot that quick with no professional fights under his belt.
realistically yes, but this franchise is anti-realism - Rocky getting his first title shot is equally unrealistic (and rocky 2 is even less realistic!). it's just a question of which wish-fulfillment fantasy we're willing to suspend disbelief for and which we aren't.
16:02 First Take airs at 7 AM pacific time, that does not look like it's 7 AM pacific time
so no mention of how JM only boxes defenseless girls irl?
They didn't mention it in this or Quantumania, presumably because there might be enough reasonable doubt that he's actually innocent.
@@waitselljones8068Bingo!
Half of these sins are just you knowing absolutely nothing about boxing
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