I kinda disagree. Operation Albion was a german success as they achieved their main goals. And despite their greater advantage they had to contend with coastal batteries and mine fields. After Operation Albion, they had a better and safer control of the baltic sea. (This does not take out the courage of russian sailors and were fighting uneven odds)
@@johnholt890 Canada kept the Haida (Tribal class destroyer)and the Sackville (Flower class Corvette) from WW2. It was private groups that fought to keep them. Which ended up being a good thing. They are the only ships of their classes left on the planet. We also have the Ojibwa (Oberon class submarine) Other than that, almost all ships get sent to the scrap yard when retired.
@@johnholt890 The USA wasn't bombed until their cities were left in ruin.Wile the Americans slept safely in their homes protected buy their navy the British bore the brunt of the Nazi aggression on land, in the air and at sea.
Well at least the pre dreadnought the Mikasa is still around. Though its a Japanese ship it was built with by the British and I would argue is one of the best ships ever produced by the British.
This is why sun Tzu said never fight an enemy on death ground. And sometimes it makes sense to fight on death ground yourself, if heavily outnumbered. It's also possibly why the Russians haven't completely encircled Bakhmut (or just incompetence or weakness lol, but it's a possibility)
@@Tom--Ace they aren't able to do it. the Ukrainians are making them fight for every building and street. But Russia no longer encircles cities completely because of what happened in mariupol.
This was a video like your past videos. Entraining, informing. It seams your group is putting out so many mixed videos at times the quality of your earlier videos is regrettably lacking. This one is very good…
Your videos are so interesting and amazing.. They are short but full of information, and anyhow with lots of documantaries on the issue (or at least videos that can suppport what you talk about). You take spot incidents or events that can otherwise be overlooked when reading the entire story of the war, put them under the lens and provide comprehensive meaningful details. Thank you so much.
Russia had no business fighting in WWI. The war against Germany, which was fighting Britain for control of most of the world, was a completely hopeless proposition for a government that was incapable of fighting Japan only 10 years earlier. Everyone knew this was a hopeless war, but no one was willing to take responsibility for a separate peace. Better to let a few more million peasants die than to admit to the opposition in the Duma that you weren‘t capable of contending for world domination. The Provisional government that took power in March 1917 was even worse: their support was so paper-thin that their entire motivation for continuing to fight was restoring military discipline and restoring the (utterly spent) patriotism of the masses. A war no one wanted to fight continued to be fought in hopes that it would blinker the people fighting it into obedience (it did not).
Now I am convinced that you pick your video clips at random and rely on the sound of your voice to carry the day. There were German soldiers in a clip wearing WWII helmets as well as several clips of American ships that served during WWII and only WWII. When you are dealing with history and not fiction you need to adapt your video to history while refraining from portraying fictional accounts.
@@ManuelGarcia-ww7gj they didn’t mix anything….they never state or say that the footage is form these events….because news flash most of them aren’t…..
And the target for the future never never again Germany and Russia should fight against each other. We are bounded in a 80 years friedship even when other political conflict will destroy this band, the people should stay as friends!
The documentation gives a completely wrong impression because the Germans did only use 2 (!) of 10 battle ships in real fight. Therefore the numerical superiority in real combat was not so big as claimed here in the intro. Furthermore, the victory was decisive for Germany because the Russians had only left the Northern Baltic Sea for operations now. This sea is frozen in winter and therefore the Russian fleet was completely out of business. As well the question arises why didn't the British Empire try to support the Russians with more than submarines? The German action was predictable - why no diversionary maneuvers in the North Sea? On this way the British fleet could force the Germans to move many battle ships and other ships to the Northern Sea and relieve the Russians.
You are absolutely right about the numerical ratio of the two parties in terms of the main battle ships . With regard to the smaller units, the Russians were in the majority, e.g. 21 destroyers against 16 German torpedo boats. The German minesweepers are not comparable to today's modern minesweepers, but were converted fishing boats in 1917/1918 that were insufficiently armed and were primarily only supposed to search for and remove mines. Basically, however, the Russian side was not in a position to take advantage of the revulution and the resulting loss of naval officers and non-commissioned officers. The revolutionary soldiers' councils on the Russian ships had such a strong command that they could overrule the remaining naval officers in command of the ships in battle. The ship's crews thus lost a lot of discipline and efficiency. Thus, the strategic Russian objective - to hold the last remaining islands under Russian control - could not be achieved. Control of the Gulf of Riga was transferred to the Germans and Russian shipping had to be suspended, also because of the winter ice.
@CipiRipi00 Located on the seafloor of the Belt Sea is the Darss Sill (18m deep), which also determines the maximum draft of ships looking to sail on the Baltic Sea. In fact ships with 13-15 m depth can make it. Now, compare with the British vessel's. Don't tell me British battle ships with a deep draught of 10m couldn't sail to the Baltic Sea. The British Empire could easily force Denmark to allow such an operation.
While is it, that whenever in one of these videos there is talk about a "sunk battleship" (at 6:19 here), footage of the sinking of the SMS Szent István has to make do... - those poor souls, who can be seen crawling on the hull of the ship could not have imagined, how many times people (a century later) would witness their demise....
We could say the same for Western countries. For French people too. Mass genocides in Africa, neocolonialism even today. French people don't have children while Muslims are constantly growing, Christianity is vanishing while mosques are full. Ex French colonies expel French military and Macron is ridiculed in from of the whole world while he tries to lecture African presidents. Russia is corrupt, yes, they have their own problems, but they don't support Nazism and LGBTQABCXWZ+ policy which is destroying families in the West. And family is the building block of every society. So yea, i think West is in even worse shape than Russia today.
Naval power is almost the most important tool for any major nation, and back then it was THEE only tool for a empire to stay in a power on the global stage….Russia never and has never recovered their once formidable navy…..now Russia just turns all of its ships into “submarines”…..AKA they sink to the ocean
I am surprised the Uk main battle fleet did not turn up and attack the German fleet from behind. Our intelligence people did not miss much when the war was on, We would have known about it in advance and since we wished to wipe out the German fleet it is odd we did not send the UK fleet there to attack the Germans? The Royal Navy would have out gunned the German Fleet and we would have had them trapped in the area. Shame as this would have ended the war at least at Sea. and saved the Russians from the uprisings and possibility stopped the take over by the Lenin lot.
You do realize that this is a skewed analysis right? In 1939 UK had the most powerful navy according to how navies fought back then. But in actuality Japan had the most powerful navy until the battle of midway. Aircraft carriers were greatly underestimated and battleships were overestimated. The UK lost over 4900 ships during the entire war. They didn’t retain their prewar number of ships until 1944. Not only that, but the Germans had superior technology and very intelligent tactics. At this point in the war the UK was no match for Germany. I mean they got pushed all the way back to their mainland and then suffered air raids for a long time. They were the most powerful in terms of sheer number of battleships and cruisers. But the Japanese were the most powerful because they had 10 carriers, plus battle ships, cruisers, and you know the ships navies usually have. After the battle of midway the USA quickly became the most powerful military in the world, building 20 Essex class carriers, amongst other battleships, cruisers, and fighter planes. Keep in mind the USA navy had no choice but to become the most powerful or get destroyed. They were fighting in the other side of the planet, fighting a 2 front war against 2 superior enemies AND go island hopping while doing so. So yes maybe more British ships could’ve helped, but they weren’t the most powerful by any means at that point. They were hurting and getting beat. Even with the US lend lease act. It took US troop intervention to really turn the tide. America was fighting like 6 different fronts. 2 in South Pacific, at least 2 in Europe for a while, and in Africa when we first joined the war. If you said “I am surprised the US main fleet didn’t come” I’d be like “yeah I get why they didn’t, but if they did, the Germans would be fucked
Like the Video said, the German's didn't utilize their Navy against the English because the English Navy was far superior. The Video stated they could go after and knockout the Russian Navy because they had the power to do that. Communications weren't all that great back in 1917, so it would be harder for English Warships to get word and make that journey to save the Russians. Furthermore, the English Navy would have been subjected to German shore defenses because they would have had to transit German Controlled Waters to do it. German Warships were stuck back in German Controlled Waters, German U-Boats were not and the English Ships were mostly tasked with escorting merchant ships that were bringing supplies from the US and other supporting countries.
@@jewwinfrey6460 not a bad summary. I agree that the Imperial Japanese Navy was the.preminant power at the time. FDR forced their hand cutting off oil and other resources. The USN caught some fortunate breaks initially, the rest followed with newer aircraft trained pilots and great code breaking. Not to mention that a battle damaged carrier got unbelievable repairs returning to Pearl from yard birds, the crew and was back in action within a couple of days.
Call the Russians anything you want by reflecting in their shortcomings, but when the fight is on for good regardless of the odds they fight to the end. The Russian Navy never recovered from the Russo-Japanese War. The decay continued after WWI and beyond.
Well Russia and Britain were allies at the time and they could have been in the area for a number of reasons, to deliver supplies, messages, refuel/rearm, to help fend off German warships or simply because it was an area of heavy German navy presence and having a few Royal Navy subs stationed there was useful to the Allied war effort.
How can you prove that the tsar is corrupt (and how can the tsar be corrupt in principle, does he steal money from his left pocket to his right pocket or vice versa?) Comrade Bolshevik I understand that I have to take your word for it, but...
cool story, too bad its told from the russian side and god knows they love to lie about everything. it'd be cool to hear both sides account because there is no way that an surrounded, trapped, outnumbered, and outgunned fleet just "snuck away" from a situation like that with only 3 ships lost.
It's pretty simple really. The Russians were routed and the Germans captured 20,000 soldiers for the loss of just 156 men. The German dreadnoughts were only lightly damaged and the ships they did lose were expendable by design.
To give an ever clearer picture of how outgunned the Russian navy was, by 1917, the HMS Dreadnought itself was obsolete. The Germans' 'Dreadnoughts' were even more advanced.
I know this is not dark seas topic but you gys should make doc video about estonians fight against russians and german forses on WW1 what was bringing indipendece for estonian country.
What is this alleged "Muun-Sund" in Estonian? There s no such phrase in the estonian language. I have no idea what language your pictured map is in, but it 'aint estonian.
The old russian ships had one little advantage.Higher gun-elevation,so they could engage targets at much closer distances. The german dreadnoughts,designed for engagements at much bigger distances , had to increase the distance to the enemy to make proper use of their modern guns that lacked such a high elevation.The russian costal-batteries where equipped with the formidable russian 30,5cm(12inch) gun and the germans had to be aware of them.The russian navy fought with great but useless bravery,the russian land -forces where more infected by the revolution and lack of morale.After the german landings the russian garrison on moon-island collapsed quickly.
Well this one certainly wasn't it. The Germans handed them their butts all over again. This video does not portray the battle at all accurately - the Russians put up a fairly token resistance before being thoroughly defeated.
@@mattbowden4996 They put up a fierce fight. They were severely underpowered and undergunned and delt out a fierce blow with what they had available. They didn't bring that fight to the Germans, the Germans brought that to them as the only means to gain a naval victory because they knew the Russian Navy was an easy victory. The Germans were the bullies picking on the little guy because they knew they'd win. The Russians demonstrated the actual courage in that fight, they did not go quietly into the night. In 1905, the Russians were taking it to the Japanese and the Japanese handed the Russians' asses to them in a major Naval battle.
Main stages of Red World Communistic Revolution. Union of Soviet Socialistic Republics - USSR. Union of Soviet Socialistic Republics of World - USSRW. Union of Communistic Republics of World - UCRW. Communistic Republic - CR. Revolution has the Beginning, Revolution does not have an end.
Кому интересна эта битва, почитайте исторический роман В. Пикуля " Моонзунд". Спасибо автору видео, я не знал, что на стороне русского флота были британские подводные лодки. В романе этого нет, но все-равно рекомендую прочитать это произведение.
@@SmartassX1 I know it was an evacuation, Just making a comment about WWI battle of Jutland. Because I thing the Germans would have come out better in that battle then everyone thinks they would have. And after all their backs were against the wall in WWI as they were here.
The word trapped was repeated so many times. In fact, every ship that participated in battle could escape to Kronstadt etc. British submarines trapped... This is so wrong narrative...
The wording and narrative makes this appear llike a propaganda movie and not serious history. Furter, it seems based almost exclusively on Russian sources. There are a number of good books that cover this operation from a more even handed perspective that apparently have not been used at all!
The Russian Navy sucks always has and always will. The sailors are brave enough and standing up to the Germans and their larger fleet was brave but their ships sucked just like today's russian navy.
@@mutantryeff 47% of Republicans now think the US is doing too much to help Ukraine, compared to 10% of Democrats (the specific question was "Thinking about the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, do you think the United States is doing too much to help Ukraine, not enough or the right amount?"). So who's embarrassed?
When this battle took place the tsar was already overthrown and replaced by the Kerensky-goverment that itself struggled with Lenins bolsheviks(supported by the germans)
Dude. Your name pronounciantions are so far off that I have no idea what is this "moon sound" battle you speak of. Write the actual name down and stop butchering it. First I thought there is some battle i dont know of and got exited, but after You pronouncing Saaremaa, Hiiumaa and Muhu islands, i was lile, ooooh, he didnt do his homework. So, what is it?
I disagree with RN ouclassing the HSF as it was proven then and again later on....in numbers it was surely much bigger but the way they fought with arrogance and disregarding the German Navy was disastrous but still they clinged on the idea carrying it stubbornly to WWII as well costing thousands of young british sailors their lifes
This part of Naval War in WW I is seldom discussed. Thanks.
That's an amazing story! I love learning about history, especially these battles that aren't really general knowledge. Great episode!
That's some great perspective about what was going on all at the same time.
This is perfect example of why you don't push people with nothing to lose into a corner.
@Pantagruel7179 Actually the German 🇩🇪 Navy suffered more losses than the Imperial 🇷🇺 Russian Navy in 1917 at the Battle of Moonbay
@@emmaegede1262 Yes, that's proves the point.
It was the Russians with nothing to lose, not the Germans.
lmao
@@emmaegede1262 Yeah...that sucks. Thanks.
I kinda disagree. Operation Albion was a german success as they achieved their main goals.
And despite their greater advantage they had to contend with coastal batteries and mine fields.
After Operation Albion, they had a better and safer control of the baltic sea.
(This does not take out the courage of russian sailors and were fighting uneven odds)
I still find it sad that the UK scrapped the Dreadnought. Would have been a beautiful museum ship.
So would have Warspite. The most decorated British ship of the 20th century and they let it be cut up for scrap.
@@TimDyckso did the US with USS Enterprise CV 6 and unlike the UK they weren’t broke after WW2.
@@johnholt890 Canada kept the Haida (Tribal class destroyer)and the Sackville (Flower class Corvette) from WW2. It was private groups that fought to keep them. Which ended up being a good thing. They are the only ships of their classes left on the planet.
We also have the Ojibwa (Oberon class submarine)
Other than that, almost all ships get sent to the scrap yard when retired.
@@johnholt890 The USA wasn't bombed until their cities were left in ruin.Wile the Americans slept safely in their homes protected buy their navy the British bore the brunt of the Nazi aggression on land, in the air and at sea.
Well at least the pre dreadnought the Mikasa is still around. Though its a Japanese ship it was built with by the British and I would argue is one of the best ships ever produced by the British.
Another bad ass video! Keep up the great work!
Excellent Episode 👍
Heretofore unknown Naval Action .
This is a great war History channel
Agreed
Proves that even the smallest prey is most deadly when backed into a corner.
This is why sun Tzu said never fight an enemy on death ground. And sometimes it makes sense to fight on death ground yourself, if heavily outnumbered.
It's also possibly why the Russians haven't completely encircled Bakhmut (or just incompetence or weakness lol, but it's a possibility)
@@Tom--Ace they aren't able to do it. the Ukrainians are making them fight for every building and street. But Russia no longer encircles cities completely because of what happened in mariupol.
🇷🇺🇬🇧 Brave men one & all.
Lest we forget ❤️🤍💙
Once again that was interesting thank you.
This was a video like your past videos. Entraining, informing. It seams your group is putting out so many mixed videos at times the quality of your earlier videos is regrettably lacking. This one is very good…
Watching from Greece.hi everybody.
Great video.
From Australia
Your videos are so interesting and amazing.. They are short but full of information, and anyhow with lots of documantaries on the issue (or at least videos that can suppport what you talk about). You take spot incidents or events that can otherwise be overlooked when reading the entire story of the war, put them under the lens and provide comprehensive meaningful details. Thank you so much.
Russia had no business fighting in WWI. The war against Germany, which was fighting Britain for control of most of the world, was a completely hopeless proposition for a government that was incapable of fighting Japan only 10 years earlier. Everyone knew this was a hopeless war, but no one was willing to take responsibility for a separate peace. Better to let a few more million peasants die than to admit to the opposition in the Duma that you weren‘t capable of contending for world domination.
The Provisional government that took power in March 1917 was even worse: their support was so paper-thin that their entire motivation for continuing to fight was restoring military discipline and restoring the (utterly spent) patriotism of the masses. A war no one wanted to fight continued to be fought in hopes that it would blinker the people fighting it into obedience (it did not).
In some measures, history threatens to repeat itself once again.
-1 for splicing Drachinifel's opening in your B roll.
I seen that too lol
Now I am convinced that you pick your video clips at random and rely on the sound of your voice to carry the day. There were German soldiers in a clip wearing WWII helmets as well as several clips of American ships that served during WWII and only WWII. When you are dealing with history and not fiction you need to adapt your video to history while refraining from portraying fictional accounts.
I noticed that too. Also, there are other channels that read from the exact same script that publish before this channel.
It’s disgraceful . I keep expecting to see clips from old cowboy movies.
Do keep in mind that footage of the topic of discussion is often extremely limited.
@@Ralphieboy Oh, I try, but when a "history" buff mixes up WWII footage with WWI I feel obliged to bring it up.
@@ManuelGarcia-ww7gj they didn’t mix anything….they never state or say that the footage is form these events….because news flash most of them aren’t…..
Man. The world would be a much better place if Russia and NATO could have stayed allies. We are so much more alike than different.
That’s the most upbeat thinking I’ve encountered in some time. Bravo to you Stephen.
Kudos to Quito, he did the left-handed twisties with his right hand and finished good because the good lube was used.
Does Drach know your using his foootage?
He's a dead war criminal I don't think he has anything to say about it
@@johnnycee5179 context? Looks like his channel is alive.
@@connorbaniak Leonhard Drach (9 March 1903 - 12 January 1996) was a German jurist and convicted war criminal.
I kind of picked up on that to...but I think most of the footage is public domain anyway.
Historical naval footage? Did drach take it himself? Does he own it?
And the target for the future never never again Germany and Russia should fight against each other. We are bounded in a 80 years friedship even when other political conflict will destroy this band, the people should stay as friends!
The documentation gives a completely wrong impression because the Germans did only use 2 (!) of 10 battle ships in real fight. Therefore the numerical superiority in real combat was not so big as claimed here in the intro. Furthermore, the victory was decisive for Germany because the Russians had only left the Northern Baltic Sea for operations now. This sea is frozen in winter and therefore the Russian fleet was completely out of business. As well the question arises why didn't the British Empire try to support the Russians with more than submarines? The German action was predictable - why no diversionary maneuvers in the North Sea? On this way the British fleet could force the Germans to move many battle ships and other ships to the Northern Sea and relieve the Russians.
You are absolutely right about the numerical ratio of the two parties in terms of the main battle ships . With regard to the smaller units, the Russians were in the majority, e.g. 21 destroyers against 16 German torpedo boats. The German minesweepers are not comparable to today's modern minesweepers, but were converted fishing boats in 1917/1918 that were insufficiently armed and were primarily only supposed to search for and remove mines.
Basically, however, the Russian side was not in a position to take advantage of the revulution and the resulting loss of naval officers and non-commissioned officers. The revolutionary soldiers' councils on the Russian ships had such a strong command that they could overrule the remaining naval officers in command of the ships in battle. The ship's crews thus lost a lot of discipline and efficiency. Thus, the strategic Russian objective - to hold the last remaining islands under Russian control - could not be achieved. Control of the Gulf of Riga was transferred to the Germans and Russian shipping had to be suspended, also because of the winter ice.
The German navy wasn’t coming out to challenge the RN
The Denmark straights blocked the RN
@CipiRipi00 Located on the seafloor of the Belt Sea is the Darss Sill (18m deep), which also determines the maximum draft of ships looking to sail on the Baltic Sea. In fact ships with 13-15 m depth can make it. Now, compare with the British vessel's. Don't tell me British battle ships with a deep draught of 10m couldn't sail to the Baltic Sea. The British Empire could easily force Denmark to allow such an operation.
nice bro.
Anybody notice an image from the videogame bf1? Its here 9:39
I got to see the cruiser Aurora at St. Petersburg😀
I saw her enemy, the Mikasa in Yokosuka.
The Islands were at that time known as Ösel, Moon and Dagö
Great video, thank you
While is it, that whenever in one of these videos there is talk about a "sunk battleship" (at 6:19 here), footage of the sinking of the SMS Szent István has to make do... - those poor souls, who can be seen crawling on the hull of the ship could not have imagined, how many times people (a century later) would witness their demise....
Russia always seemed to be it's own worst enemy. Still is, to this day.
We could say the same for Western countries. For French people too. Mass genocides in Africa, neocolonialism even today. French people don't have children while Muslims are constantly growing, Christianity is vanishing while mosques are full. Ex French colonies expel French military and Macron is ridiculed in from of the whole world while he tries to lecture African presidents. Russia is corrupt, yes, they have their own problems, but they don't support Nazism and LGBTQABCXWZ+ policy which is destroying families in the West. And family is the building block of every society. So yea, i think West is in even worse shape than Russia today.
100 years later not much has changed
I wouldn't say it tore Russia apart by a long way, other than that a great video
Naval power is almost the most important tool for any major nation, and back then it was THEE only tool for a empire to stay in a power on the global stage….Russia never and has never recovered their once formidable navy…..now Russia just turns all of its ships into “submarines”…..AKA they sink to the ocean
You borrowed that intro from Drachinifel.
9:39 battlefield 1 heligoland bight
Has anyone noticed that the pictures do not match the narration except sporadically?
Interesting but needed another map or two to show the progress of the battle.
IMPRESSIVE !!!
Please do a video about Laffey (Benson class destroyer DD-459)
If it helps I did one on the Benson class several years ago. : /
I am surprised the Uk main battle fleet did not turn up and attack the German fleet from behind. Our intelligence people did not miss much when the war was on,
We would have known about it in advance and since we wished to wipe out the German fleet it is odd we did not send the UK fleet there to attack the Germans?
The Royal Navy would have out gunned the German Fleet and we would have had them trapped in the area.
Shame as this would have ended the war at least at Sea. and saved the Russians from the uprisings and possibility stopped the take over by the Lenin lot.
Good analysis 😎
You do realize that this is a skewed analysis right? In 1939 UK had the most powerful navy according to how navies fought back then. But in actuality Japan had the most powerful navy until the battle of midway. Aircraft carriers were greatly underestimated and battleships were overestimated. The UK lost over 4900 ships during the entire war. They didn’t retain their prewar number of ships until 1944. Not only that, but the Germans had superior technology and very intelligent tactics. At this point in the war the UK was no match for Germany. I mean they got pushed all the way back to their mainland and then suffered air raids for a long time. They were the most powerful in terms of sheer number of battleships and cruisers. But the Japanese were the most powerful because they had 10 carriers, plus battle ships, cruisers, and you know the ships navies usually have. After the battle of midway the USA quickly became the most powerful military in the world, building 20 Essex class carriers, amongst other battleships, cruisers, and fighter planes. Keep in mind the USA navy had no choice but to become the most powerful or get destroyed. They were fighting in the other side of the planet, fighting a 2 front war against 2 superior enemies AND go island hopping while doing so. So yes maybe more British ships could’ve helped, but they weren’t the most powerful by any means at that point. They were hurting and getting beat. Even with the US lend lease act. It took US troop intervention to really turn the tide. America was fighting like 6 different fronts. 2 in South Pacific, at least 2 in Europe for a while, and in Africa when we first joined the war. If you said “I am surprised the US main fleet didn’t come” I’d be like “yeah I get why they didn’t, but if they did, the Germans would be fucked
Like the Video said, the German's didn't utilize their Navy against the English because the English Navy was far superior. The Video stated they could go after and knockout the Russian Navy because they had the power to do that. Communications weren't all that great back in 1917, so it would be harder for English Warships to get word and make that journey to save the Russians. Furthermore, the English Navy would have been subjected to German shore defenses because they would have had to transit German Controlled Waters to do it. German Warships were stuck back in German Controlled Waters, German U-Boats were not and the English Ships were mostly tasked with escorting merchant ships that were bringing supplies from the US and other supporting countries.
@@jewwinfrey6460 it's not skewed and you're comparing 1939 with 1917. There were things that came up in WWI that changed dynamics for WWII.
@@jewwinfrey6460 not a bad summary. I agree that the Imperial Japanese Navy was the.preminant power at the time. FDR forced their hand cutting off oil and other resources. The USN caught some fortunate breaks initially, the rest followed with newer aircraft trained pilots and great code breaking. Not to mention that a battle damaged carrier got unbelievable repairs returning to Pearl from yard birds, the crew and was back in action within a couple of days.
Add Subtitles for more reach of video
Call the Russians anything you want by reflecting in their shortcomings, but when the fight is on for good regardless of the odds they fight to the end. The Russian Navy never recovered from the Russo-Japanese War. The decay continued after WWI and beyond.
Wait.. at 6:07 this dude just casually loads what looks like a 13 inch shell by hand? :D
Why maps are in Russian while you speak in English ?
Why were there British subs with the Russians?
Well Russia and Britain were allies at the time and they could have been in the area for a number of reasons, to deliver supplies, messages, refuel/rearm, to help fend off German warships or simply because it was an area of heavy German navy presence and having a few Royal Navy subs stationed there was useful to the Allied war effort.
Token show of support
Drachinifel got beat on this one. Never covered?
Some maps showing unit movements would have been nice.
"force them OUT OF THE WAR"
100 years ago a corrupt Tsar was overthrown following war losses. Now a new, Tsar-for-life has embarked on his own empire building.
How can you prove that the tsar is corrupt (and how can the tsar be corrupt in principle, does he steal money from his left pocket to his right pocket or vice versa?) Comrade Bolshevik I understand that I have to take your word for it, but...
cool story, too bad its told from the russian side and god knows they love to lie about everything. it'd be cool to hear both sides account because there is no way that an surrounded, trapped, outnumbered, and outgunned fleet just "snuck away" from a situation like that with only 3 ships lost.
It's pretty simple really. The Russians were routed and the Germans captured 20,000 soldiers for the loss of just 156 men. The German dreadnoughts were only lightly damaged and the ships they did lose were expendable by design.
What is going on @ 9:42? It looks like Russian Officers are handing out rations to east Indian POWS or rescued citizens.
To give an ever clearer picture of how outgunned the Russian navy was, by 1917, the HMS Dreadnought itself was obsolete. The Germans' 'Dreadnoughts' were even more advanced.
Credit where it's due.
I know this is not dark seas topic but you gys should make doc video about estonians fight against russians and german forses on WW1 what was bringing indipendece for estonian country.
I like your stuff, but you need a proofreader.
Did the escaped warships go to Britain?
Now the Black Sea fleet remains in harbour.
Bottled up by a country with no navy of its own.
What is this alleged "Muun-Sund" in Estonian? There s no such phrase in the estonian language. I have no idea what language your pictured map is in, but it 'aint estonian.
The old russian ships had one little advantage.Higher gun-elevation,so they could engage targets at much closer distances. The german dreadnoughts,designed for engagements at much bigger distances , had to increase the distance to the enemy to make proper use of their modern guns that lacked such a high elevation.The russian costal-batteries where equipped with the formidable russian 30,5cm(12inch) gun and the germans had to be aware of them.The russian navy fought with great but useless bravery,the russian land -forces where more infected by the revolution and lack of morale.After the german landings the russian garrison on moon-island collapsed quickly.
Best Dark Seas ever. +1
You stole Drach's intro in its entirety. WTF
And later the Royal Navy will destroy the Russian fleet to protect the Baltic Countries 🎉
Love to hear about Red sailors breathing salt water
The Russian Navy needed a good Naval battle since getting their butts handed to them by the Japanese in 1905.
Well this one certainly wasn't it. The Germans handed them their butts all over again. This video does not portray the battle at all accurately - the Russians put up a fairly token resistance before being thoroughly defeated.
@@mattbowden4996 They put up a fierce fight. They were severely underpowered and undergunned and delt out a fierce blow with what they had available. They didn't bring that fight to the Germans, the Germans brought that to them as the only means to gain a naval victory because they knew the Russian Navy was an easy victory. The Germans were the bullies picking on the little guy because they knew they'd win. The Russians demonstrated the actual courage in that fight, they did not go quietly into the night. In 1905, the Russians were taking it to the Japanese and the Japanese handed the Russians' asses to them in a major Naval battle.
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Is that the same dreadknots the Russians used during World War II?
They're 'pre-drednoughts'
Impressive battle! One of Russia's justified moments in modern history.
At least Drach makes the video of the ships match the ships actually being discussed.
3/10. Try harder.
A definite win for the Russians in terms of strategy and skill.
Main stages of Red World Communistic Revolution.
Union of Soviet Socialistic Republics - USSR.
Union of Soviet Socialistic Republics of World - USSRW.
Union of Communistic Republics of World - UCRW.
Communistic Republic - CR.
Revolution has the Beginning, Revolution does not have an end.
"The Germans were well aware of the internal foment ..." Well sure they were. They paid for much of it in gold & weapons.
Кому интересна эта битва, почитайте исторический роман В. Пикуля " Моонзунд". Спасибо автору видео, я не знал, что на стороне русского флота были британские подводные лодки. В романе этого нет, но все-равно рекомендую прочитать это произведение.
😢 for what?
Why so many shots of ships with cage masts? Those were ALWAYS American.
It a shame that the German fleet didn't fight like that at Jutland
Every german ship there was filled with civilian refuges. That was an evacuation.
@@SmartassX1 I know it was an evacuation, Just making a comment about WWI battle of Jutland. Because I thing the Germans would have come out better in that battle then everyone thinks they would have. And after all their backs were against the wall in WWI as they were here.
Ukraine doing same now
The word trapped was repeated so many times. In fact, every ship that participated in battle could escape to Kronstadt etc. British submarines trapped... This is so wrong narrative...
On estonia still has to clean up for russian shit they have dropped in baltic sea
Russian Republic???
Donate to the "Wounded Warrior Project"
Lets se if today usa have guts to fight URSS😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
The wording and narrative makes this appear llike a propaganda movie and not serious history. Furter, it seems based almost exclusively on Russian sources. There are a number of good books that cover this operation from a more even handed perspective that apparently have not been used at all!
Hurr Durr ruzzophobia
Lol Russian navy always sucked, they even lost to Japan
More "click bait" headlines, if anything I would have said it helped hold them together.
The Russian Navy sucks always has and always will. The sailors are brave enough and standing up to the Germans and their larger fleet was brave but their ships sucked just like today's russian navy.
My American brothers and sisters get ready.....this is coming home to roost. Time to water the tree of liberty! LETS GO!!!!!!
Is it an embarrassment to be a Russian?
yes
No, what if I said that about americans. You would say blah blah patriotism. No one should be embarassed to be any race, racist.
I don't believe so.
@@empireoflizards Should have asked if it is more of an embarrassment to be a Democrat or a Russian.
@@mutantryeff 47% of Republicans now think the US is doing too much to help Ukraine, compared to 10% of Democrats (the specific question was "Thinking about the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, do you think the United States is doing too much to help Ukraine, not enough or the right amount?"). So who's embarrassed?
Russian republic? 20 second mark. The tsar was a brutal dictator.
When this battle took place the tsar was already overthrown and replaced by the Kerensky-goverment that itself struggled with Lenins bolsheviks(supported by the germans)
And the communists weren’t
@@tomhenry897 I didn't say that.
Did anyone else click on this video because they wanted to hear what the moon sounds like?
Ugh
"russian navy"
It was the navy of Russian Republic, how is it not Russian navy?
Dude. Your name pronounciantions are so far off that I have no idea what is this "moon sound" battle you speak of. Write the actual name down and stop butchering it. First I thought there is some battle i dont know of and got exited, but after You pronouncing Saaremaa, Hiiumaa and Muhu islands, i was lile, ooooh, he didnt do his homework. So, what is it?
I disagree with RN ouclassing the HSF as it was proven then and again later on....in numbers it was surely much bigger but the way they fought with arrogance and disregarding the German Navy was disastrous but still they clinged on the idea carrying it stubbornly to WWII as well costing thousands of young british sailors their lifes
lol heroic, yea running away is so heroic