The RIDICULOUS Steam Submarine: The K-Class Failure

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  • Опубликовано: 10 май 2024
  • The K-Class submarine was a attempt by the Royal Navy to create a submarine capable of keeping pace with the massive dreadnoughts of the era - but sadly the design was badly hampered by issues from the start. The choice of steam turbines for a propulsion method presented the crews with an intricate dive procedures that had to be followed closely and without mistakes - a single error could doom the sub. What resulted was a series of accidents and mishaps that killed dozens of sailors and created deep embarrassment for the Admiralty. This is the true story of the British K-Class submarine!
    Edited by Alex Anastasakis
    Animations by Jack Gibson
    Oceanliner Designs explores the design, construction, engineering and operation of history’s greatest vessels- from Titanic to Queen Mary and from the Empress of Ireland to the Lusitania. Join maritime researcher and illustrator Michael Brady as he tells the stories behind some of history's most famous ocean liners and machines!
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  • @michaelholt8590
    @michaelholt8590 Месяц назад +585

    As soon as Mike said "vents" and "foreshadowing" I thought "Oh God! Someone put a vent on a submarine!"

    • @johngdoty
      @johngdoty Месяц назад +55

      At least they scrapped the plans for the subs with screen doors and the steam powered hydrogen balloons!

    • @larrybremer4930
      @larrybremer4930 Месяц назад +41

      All military submarines using a combustion engine for primary power have air vents since such submarines are really surface ships that can submerge (they are better classified as submersible ships rather than submarines). Only a pure electric or Nuclear don't have vents for intake and exhaust air. Aside from those there are other hull openings depending on the subs design, but only speaking of modern Nuclear subs there are plenty of hull openings for hatches, loading hatches for torpedoes, missile tubes, water intake for the reactor, boiler, desalination plants, cooling, ballast system, etc.

    • @michaelholt8590
      @michaelholt8590 Месяц назад +5

      @@larrybremer4930 All American navy submarines are nuclear. So we don't worry about that.

    • @voiceofraisin3778
      @voiceofraisin3778 Месяц назад +21

      Having vents was the only way to get air to the diesel, petrol or in this case steam engines during surface running.
      It was a standard feature on every nations subs until the nuclear age.
      The classic case is the USS Squalous which was lost then the engine room chief supposedly had a brain spasm and opened instead of closing the engine room vents as the ship was diving and flooded the vessel.

    • @michaelholt8590
      @michaelholt8590 Месяц назад +10

      @@voiceofraisin3778 Some people really have a hard time with jokes.

  • @Bob78
    @Bob78 Месяц назад +675

    Early submarines are so fascinating to me, but unlike more modern submarines, I don't envy the people who served aboard them.

    • @MakerInMotion
      @MakerInMotion Месяц назад +78

      They know it sucks. That's why they get the best food in the military. You're trapped in a steel tube for months, but here have some steak and lobster. It still wouldn't be enough to lift my spirits.

    • @eroero830
      @eroero830 Месяц назад +15

      @@MakerInMotion I don't know how lobster is best food in military, or steak for that matter. I'm vegan.

    • @AshesOfArcadia
      @AshesOfArcadia Месяц назад +45

      Tbh. I don't wanna serve on any submarine, no matter how modern.

    • @Carrera-gp9od
      @Carrera-gp9od Месяц назад +107

      @@eroero830
      You’re in the minority .
      Most people love steak and lobster 🦞
      Why do vegans love telling people they are vegans ?
      Is this the phenomenon known as virtue signalling?

    • @MakerInMotion
      @MakerInMotion Месяц назад

      @@eroero830 Vegans are vegans because of a commitment to not take life. So vegans don't belong in the military given it's purpose.

  • @xBrandinOx
    @xBrandinOx Месяц назад +175

    Mike, I know you hear ( read mostly ) how much joy your passion has brought all of us viewers. Every video has so much soul and love seamed through the writing and visuals. It's truly no wonder why the now legendary words "it's your friend, Mike Brady..." causes auto-clicks, likes, and us to watch in full.
    I am 35. When I was 10, I started a history project on Titanic. As she did for so many us, Titanic unlocked a fascination and love for Titanic herself, as well as anything that's ever tasted the sea.
    I want to say thank you for all that you do. Thank you for how much love you put into what you do, and thank you for never failing to produce top quality videos, week after week.
    Your friend,
    -Brandon, huge fan and supporter of Oceanliner Designs. ( although, I'd absolutely LOVE to be a part and work with Oceanliner Designs lol )

    • @Maddym365
      @Maddym365 Месяц назад +15

      I’ve also noticed that if you have a question about titanic, more often than not there’s a video on this channel about it which is AWESOME. He’s such a great resource

    • @OceanlinerDesigns
      @OceanlinerDesigns  Месяц назад +48

      That's really lovely feedback, thanks Brandon! I am sad sometimes that I don't get to mingle and talk directly with my audience because I'd love to see people's reactions in real time! Reading the comments is always the next best thing and it's lovely to hear you and others are enjoying what the channel's making!

    • @colegensch787
      @colegensch787 29 дней назад +4

      ​@@OceanlinerDesigns I don't know about you but I be incredibly uncomfortable in a cramped space inside those submarines if you are someone who is clostaphobic. Afraid of small spaces.

    • @colegensch787
      @colegensch787 29 дней назад

      ​@@OceanlinerDesignsI mean these submarines were pretty cool designs but I can see as you said we're not really effective these subs were pretty much just steam ships with a mix of u-boat design put into it these so called k-boats are failed designs of subs but nice designs nether the less.🥴🙂

  • @mikefochtman7164
    @mikefochtman7164 Месяц назад +244

    Another point, diesel-electric submarines are not slower underwater because they use electric motors. The drive system uses electric motors on the surface as well. The motors are powered from either diesel-driven generators or storage batteries, but the motors are capable of the same hp surfaced or submerged. (although at maximum power, the storage batteries are depleted quite rapidly)
    But the hull design of these boats are much more hydrodynamic on the surface. Basically similar to conventional ships. Submerged, the deck gun, conning tower and overall hull shape create tremendous drag reducing their submerged speed. The adoption of the tear-drop hull shape (Albacore hull shape) changed that after WW II.

    • @wayneantoniazzi2706
      @wayneantoniazzi2706 Месяц назад +39

      Right. That design philosophy began with the Germans who prior to WW1 reasoned a submarine was going to spend most of it's time on the surface anyway so they designed their subs with hulls that had good sea-keeping and handling abilities while surfaced. There was a penalty to be paid while submerged due to lack of streamlining but the German designers figured the trade-off was worth it. And so it proved.

    • @M16_Akula-III
      @M16_Akula-III Месяц назад +1

      Yep..

    • @philiphumphrey1548
      @philiphumphrey1548 Месяц назад +11

      That may be true but the capacity of the batteries is strictly limited, so it wouldn't get very far at full speed. Underwater it would use a far more economical cruising speed, usually about 3 or 4 knots, depending on how far it needed to go.

    • @jbepsilon
      @jbepsilon Месяц назад +25

      IIRC most diesel-electric submarines up through the end of WWII actually had gearboxes and clutches allowing the diesel engines to be directly connected to the propellers. The electric motors were thus used only when diving.
      Modern diesel-electric subs indeed have a much simpler system with the diesel engines only driving the generators, and a separate electrical motor to drive the propeller, with no mechanical connection between the diesels and the prop shaft.

    • @610jrod
      @610jrod Месяц назад +3

      ​@@philiphumphrey1548that's what they said?

  • @diminios
    @diminios Месяц назад +93

    Interesting timing. Just this morning I was reading "Greatest Naval Blunders" by Geoffrey Regan - the very chapter that talks about the K-class!

    • @isthatrubble
      @isthatrubble 29 дней назад +2

      damn, is that a series? I picked up the royal blunders book by him in a second hand shop ages ago, some funny stuff in there..... and some sad stuff.

    • @diminios
      @diminios 29 дней назад +1

      @@isthatrubbleHonestly, I don't know. I just picked up the naval blunders book as it came recommended.

  • @mattblom3990
    @mattblom3990 27 дней назад +73

    I was at a liquor store the other day and the young woman asked me what I was doing on my Sunday afternoon. I said watch some naval history videos, she said to watch Mike Brady's Oceanliner Designs and I was happy to tell her one of your Titanic videos was qued up at home on my laptop. Sharing that story from a small town in Western Canada!

    • @Eatinbritches
      @Eatinbritches 24 дня назад +4

      hehehe I'm in small town BC and my wife and I enjoy these vids during dinner 👍

    • @1D991
      @1D991 12 дней назад

      Also a small-town BC resident! Love Mike's videos~

  • @blitzzkrieg1400
    @blitzzkrieg1400 Месяц назад +114

    Always a great day when our friend, Mike Brady, uploads a new video

    • @zainmudassir2964
      @zainmudassir2964 Месяц назад +3

      Our dear friend, Brady

    • @bobbymartin7455
      @bobbymartin7455 Месяц назад

      And we got him on TH&G glory scream yesterday

    • @largol33t12
      @largol33t12 Месяц назад +1

      Let's suppose he and Drachnifel met at a local pub somewhere in Islington or a shady part of Cheltenham. Wonder what stories they would exchange after gulping down a few too many pints...
      They should do a video on that topic. I'd love to know what they will talk about.

    • @andreasu.3546
      @andreasu.3546 28 дней назад +1

      ​@@largol33t12 I find it hard to imagine him at any lesser establishment than a proper victorian gentlemen's club.

  • @Walker_TR2
    @Walker_TR2 Месяц назад +42

    I love when my friend, Mike Brady from Oceanliner Designs uploads another video.

  • @janicereadymartcher7696
    @janicereadymartcher7696 Месяц назад +34

    Read a paperback called the K ships years ago and the best quote was “my ends sinking, what’s your end doing?”

    • @philhealey4443
      @philhealey4443 28 дней назад +2

      You've taken that quote right out of my planned comment move! A fascinating and comprehensive book, but I've not seen my copy for years. I was admonished once by the Master of a floating dock using the S word; controlled vessels apparently 'submerge', making 'sinking' highly appropriate sadly to the K boats.

    • @mistypuffs
      @mistypuffs 12 дней назад

      I suppose when you realise your end’s sinking, you feel a strong urge to get straight to the point

  • @792slayer
    @792slayer Месяц назад +23

    I've always been interested in submarines. My favorite is the WW2 generation, because of how advanced they were without solid state electronics. The newer trends towards air independent power have been fascinating.

  • @LFC4LIFEJEDI
    @LFC4LIFEJEDI Месяц назад +52

    I worked at Barrow in Furness for Bae Systems.. I was there during the construction of the first Astute Class Sub.
    I have to say, it was a hell of experience being to walk past each day watching this amazing machine being constructed.
    It was 4 stories high and just short of 100m long.
    It's not until you are able to stand literally within fingertips next to it are able to truly appreciate it's size.

    • @OceanlinerDesigns
      @OceanlinerDesigns  Месяц назад +7

      Wow, what a monster of a thing! Amazing experience :)

    • @LFC4LIFEJEDI
      @LFC4LIFEJEDI Месяц назад +4

      @@OceanlinerDesigns it very much was. I returned a couple of weeks before it's official launch and was able to snag a very sneaky off the books tour inside and yeah.. I do not know people can work on subs lol

  • @ctron2388
    @ctron2388 Месяц назад +88

    Just a cool tiny fact at 12 noon today Titanic’s sets sail 112 years ago

    • @The_Dudester
      @The_Dudester Месяц назад +4

      Please get therapy. It was just a movie. It was just a movie. It was just a movie.

    • @nyotamwuaji6484
      @nyotamwuaji6484 Месяц назад +7

      ​@The_Dudester no it wasn't.

    • @harridan.
      @harridan. Месяц назад

      ​​it was just a jest, it was just a jest, it was just a jest....

    • @The_Dudester
      @The_Dudester Месяц назад +2

      @@nyotamwuaji6484 The ship sank 112 years ago.
      1) Did you survive the sinking? NO!!
      2) Did the sinking affect your daily income? NO!! Not unless you buy the DVD, the VHS, the online movie. The merch.
      3) Would you be able to actually have a life, despite the fact that the ship sank? Yes, absolutely!! You should go outside and touch grass. See that yellow object in the sky? It's called the sun, it provides warmth and helps plants to grow.
      4) Should you get therapy? Absolutely yes!! The ship sank 112 years ago. There was a movie in 1997 and since then, people have watched the movie over and over and over and they ponder, 'What if I went back in time, could I save the ship?' It was just a movie. It was just a movie. It was just a movie. LET IT GO!! GET A LIFE, PLEASE!!

    • @jspaceemperor420
      @jspaceemperor420 Месяц назад +15

      ​@@The_DudesterYou're telling people to get over something that they like and that they need therapy because of it, Sounds like it's you who needs therapy, get over yourself.

  • @alancats
    @alancats Месяц назад +14

    I'm in favor of bestowing the much-deserved honorific, "Professor," to our friend, Mike Brady. He is making his superb Maritime/Nautical History 101 class available to the masses, on RUclips.

  • @2pintsofcremedementh
    @2pintsofcremedementh 27 дней назад +9

    Very impressive that they were able to save so many lives during those disastrous test runs, casting doubt on the perspective that life was cheap in those times. Absolute heroes living by the word of never leaving a man behind (against terrible odds)

  • @murph64
    @murph64 Месяц назад +18

    “This is what we in the industry call foreshadowing” love it lmao

  • @babalonkie
    @babalonkie Месяц назад +34

    Finally... a mention of the M-Class Submarines 🙂
    Battleship gun or aircraft carrier (Beating the Japanese to it a few decades earlier)... they were unique and bold creations.

    • @sean270wn3
      @sean270wn3 Месяц назад +1

      the french had the surcouf with 8 inch guns lol. she vanished while transiting to the pacific

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 Месяц назад +2

      @@sean270wn3The US built a few non-turreted cruiser submarines with nasty deck guns in the late ‘20s/early ‘30. They didn’t take it as far as the French of British but they carried a six-incher. Actually got a lot of good use out of them during the war.

    • @sean270wn3
      @sean270wn3 29 дней назад

      @@grahamstrouse1165 neat, I didn't know that

    • @WolfeSaber9933
      @WolfeSaber9933 28 дней назад

      The French did make a sub that had a turret for two 8 inch guns

    • @babalonkie
      @babalonkie 28 дней назад

      ​@@WolfeSaber9933 Well of course... the last 2 nations on Earth able to "compete" with each towards the end of WW1 and just after was UK and France.
      The whole large gun thing was actually impractical on a submarine... especially the 12 inch gun on the M1-Submarine lol. It was just a "look what we can build" contest... ironically they were never actually going to be used on each other. UK and France had become big allies after the Napoleonic wars.

  • @MikeFinnell
    @MikeFinnell Месяц назад +12

    Great work as always. I also enjoyed Fredrik Knudsen telling of the tale, he goes into a deeper level of detail on the Battle of May Island and the absolute cluster it was.

  • @geecroe-vu3xk
    @geecroe-vu3xk Месяц назад +15

    Hey Mike! Would you consider making a video on the history/progression of ship propulsion from inception to modern day? That would be awesome! Love the channel mate keep it up 🚢

  • @SimonTekConley
    @SimonTekConley 28 дней назад +8

    The part that is glossed over, that it sank, and was able to be refloated, and some of the men saved. This was ww1, that is so impressive that it was done.

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 24 дня назад +1

      Yep. I assumed any such event would have been a death sentence for anyone onboard. The fact any lives were saved is impressive!

  • @SueBobChicVid
    @SueBobChicVid Месяц назад +15

    I served on "modern" US subs and I am fascinated by the earlier crazy designs.

    • @M16_Akula-III
      @M16_Akula-III Месяц назад

      pre-688 or post?

    • @jeff1930
      @jeff1930 Месяц назад +2

      I served on a Lafayette class. O7 from another "bubble head"

    • @SueBobChicVid
      @SueBobChicVid Месяц назад

      @@M16_Akula-III Exactly 688. OK City and Baton Rouge (in that order).

    • @M16_Akula-III
      @M16_Akula-III Месяц назад

      @@SueBobChicVid Ah...Nice! I ain't no submariner but it's nice to hear 'bout stories like this!

  • @lancerevell5979
    @lancerevell5979 Месяц назад +32

    My Navy recruiter talked me into volunteering for both the Nuke Program and submarines, due to my brighteyed stupidity. Luckily my grade average in BE&E School was 2% too low, so I flunked out before nuke school, and changed track to Electronic Tech/Comms, going to the surface fleet. I served on an ASW Frigate, hunting subs! I was much happier. I did get to tour a WWII sub on museum display duty in San Francisco Harbor. Very cramped. Easy to see why they were called "pig boats". I've read the big nuke subs are better. 😎👍

    • @EllieMaes-Grandad
      @EllieMaes-Grandad 29 дней назад +2

      Pampanito in San Fran is way bigger than the UK one at Gosport (I've seen inside both) and the German ones of which I've seen only pix.

    • @UndaCuvaChikin
      @UndaCuvaChikin 25 дней назад +1

      Boomers are great if you have a family waiting for you at home and if you enjoy constantly running drills. Otherwise fast boats get to go everywhere and do cool stuff. Going subs was such a double-edged sword though. The novelty wears off quick, and it'll either make you or break you.

  • @Uncle_Roadkill
    @Uncle_Roadkill Месяц назад +14

    Well, if it isn't our friend Mike Brady from Oceanliner Designs!

  • @Dakiraun
    @Dakiraun Месяц назад +6

    Sure can't fault the bold ideas the Edwardians had. The _execution_ of those ideas, however, sometimes was not so great - like this one. As you point out though, it was an era of immense industrial progress, and sometimes they just didn't know until they tried (and failed). Another excellent and fascinating video about something I didn't even realize existed. Also a great reminder of the lives lost in the name of progress.

  • @smegghead
    @smegghead Месяц назад +9

    The K-Class is my passion. The submarine I am obsessed with and what got me interested in any type of ocean vessel. I am SO excited to watch this video. I know it's going to make my day. Thank you! 🎉

    • @scouseaussie1638
      @scouseaussie1638 29 дней назад

      Crap submarine

    • @dogsbodyish8403
      @dogsbodyish8403 29 дней назад +1

      @@scouseaussie1638 Worst of both worlds?

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 24 дня назад

      ​@@scouseaussie1638
      Thank you for such a detailed and concise response. You must have put hours of research into that report.
      Yours sincerely, a non convict not from one of the most likely places to supply convicts in the UK or elsewhere.

  • @ozziemederos
    @ozziemederos Месяц назад +33

    Awesome video Mike

  • @GusVIII
    @GusVIII Месяц назад +22

    Fredrik Knudsen made a documentary about this a few years ago. That shit was insane.
    May I suggest making a video about how batteries in old subs worked? Always been curious about that.

    • @Kumquat_Lord
      @Kumquat_Lord Месяц назад +5

      I've seen the batteries they use in the Gato class, it's a few massive banks of lead-acid cells.

    • @ThePlayerOfGames
      @ThePlayerOfGames 27 дней назад +1

      Huge banks of wet lead-acid cells
      They produce hydrogen when hot, when overcharged, and in the presence of salt water
      Wet lead-acid battery management became a whole field until they started shifting to solid cells post WW2

    • @CruelestChris
      @CruelestChris 27 дней назад +2

      His video isn't all that great because the entire history section is wrong, particularly the claims he made about German submarines (the Royal Navy had more submarines at the start of the war and they were more sophisticated, and both sides used them for the same thing). Plus he obfuscates that the problem at May Island was, as is often the case with these collisions, a cavalier commander of a small vessel executing turns in front of larger vessels without properly informing them. The same thing led to collisions like the carrier USS _Wasp_ striking the destroyer USS _Hobson_ in 1952, which actually killed more people.

  • @jamierowe_
    @jamierowe_ 29 дней назад +4

    Wow.... it was truly Murphy's Law on that K-Class exercise....so tragic,this is why i love history,we shouldn't try to abolish it, instead let's continue to learn lessons from it...great vid Mike 👍

  • @SmackWild-yb1rr
    @SmackWild-yb1rr 27 дней назад +3

    I worked on the Isle of May for a while. Lovely location. Amazing bird life. It's surprising how little anyone knows of the disaster that occured near there in 1918.

  • @ditzy_neko3362
    @ditzy_neko3362 Месяц назад +3

    Thank you Mike Brady for covering the things you do. You keep me and my wife dully interested and entertained.

  • @davidockelford1887
    @davidockelford1887 29 дней назад +4

    Excellent book on this subject by Don Everitt called "The K Boats", with a quote on the cover "I say Number One, my end is diving... what the hell is your end doing?" Only one ever hit anything with a torpedo- which didn't explode!

    • @philhealey4443
      @philhealey4443 28 дней назад

      Must be 30 years ago since I read it, but this quote remains etched !

    • @peterdixon7975
      @peterdixon7975 9 часов назад

      I read that about 30 years ago too. Great book.

  • @wackypacky6917
    @wackypacky6917 29 дней назад +2

    The joy of knowing that I’m not the only person who wanted a video on the K-Class

  • @jordanpeterson2001
    @jordanpeterson2001 Месяц назад +2

    I’ve been waiting for so long for someone to post a video about the K Class. It’s been my favourite ‘weapon’ of war since I found out about it, especially its origins. A perfect example of an initial idea which makes sense in a doctrine, but purely impractical mechanically

  • @CurmudgeonExtraordinaire
    @CurmudgeonExtraordinaire 27 дней назад +4

    Yes, nuclear subs and ships are definitely "steam powered"... Instead of having traditional boilers, the reactor provides the heat source in the primary coolant loop which goes through the steam generator to create the superheated water / steam that goes into the steam turbines...

  • @T3M45LL
    @T3M45LL Месяц назад +4

    Another absolute masterpiece sir Brady! Something else I did not know until now. Wow, thank you!🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @wingmanjim6
    @wingmanjim6 Месяц назад +1

    I have commented before about how appreciated your in depth research and superb presentation skills are, but to these I must now add your ability to discover little known subjects and include them in your videos. Most impressive and, I might add, very, VERY much appreciated ! One more time - thank you, Mike !!!!!!

  • @mjosmoo
    @mjosmoo 27 дней назад +2

    Brilliantly informative and a fascinating history I had no awareness of. Thank you Mike for such a well put together production, really enjoyed it.

  • @donscheid97
    @donscheid97 Месяц назад +10

    Ironic the modern nuclear subs are again... steam powered.

  • @pilgrimageintothepast6086
    @pilgrimageintothepast6086 Месяц назад +14

    My great uncle served on K12 from 1917-1920. He also ended up surviving the sinking of Poseidon. I must try to find out more about the records of the various surface ships and submarines he served on.

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 24 дня назад

      Cool! Did he ever get to meet Leslie Nielsen by the way?!

  • @morandana77
    @morandana77 28 дней назад

    Excellent writing and presentation as always! Appreciate that you're covering more types of vessels.

  • @jeffgann6613
    @jeffgann6613 27 дней назад +1

    The quality of your videos is unparalleled anywhere, and this one is a fine example. Thank you for your hard work, my friend Mike Brady 👍👍👍

  • @curiousfirely
    @curiousfirely Месяц назад +3

    This video reminds me of another interesting topic, if it hasn't been covered yet - dazzle camouflage from the first world war. It seems like a great mix of engineering and design that would appeal to the viewers of this channel!

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 24 дня назад

      Seconded! I'd love that. It's interesting to note that new models of car where there design is still secret but they need to complete road testing in the real world use a variation of essentially dazzle camo so the shape and features can't be determined!

  • @falconwind00
    @falconwind00 Месяц назад +7

    *Sees thumbnail.*
    “Ya can’t park there, mate!”

  • @OriginalMrBandicoot
    @OriginalMrBandicoot Месяц назад

    This is why i look forward to your videos. i had no idea steam subs were so prevalent in our navy.

  • @sevensixtysteve8662
    @sevensixtysteve8662 28 дней назад

    Another amazing episode from one of my favourite channels. Thanks Mike, totally absorbing content delivered in a gimmick free style. This story is interesting from a technological stand point but is also an incredible story of human endeavour. Those sub-mariners are truly heroes and I cannot imagine what it must have been like to be a crew member of one those death traps.

  • @Lavidalex
    @Lavidalex Месяц назад +3

    That is one of the best intros you’ve ever made “They are made to sink, and rise again, however in some cases that second part was a little harder to pull off” that was incredibly… Accurate, and funny, but also sad at the same time, I am really confused about the way you said it, but I love it 😅

  • @SteamboatWilley
    @SteamboatWilley Месяц назад +13

    I've been fascinated with the K class for some time. I think the subject has also been covered by Drachinifel and History in the Dark.

  • @PuddyHU
    @PuddyHU Месяц назад +2

    I've recently found this channel and it's always a pleasure to watch a new upload, thanks Mike for your quality and interesting content :)

  • @Tundraviper41
    @Tundraviper41 29 дней назад +2

    When it comes to innovating in navel history, The Italian Battlecruiser project of 1921 by Ferdinado Cassone, is an interesting one to note. It was one of the Largest Ships proposed for the Regina Marine at that point in time, and also it was one of the most unique when it comes to its power-plant arrangement, and its 456mm main armament.
    Unlike most conventional ships, the Ship design had what is called a "Two-Tiered" power-plant. In which the ships Boilers where to be placed ABOVE the Engines in the Engine compartment. The idea was this arrangement was to reduce the length of the ships citadel to save space while not increasing the ships tonnage above 45,000 tons. Although this Engine Layout did increase the Height of the citadel above the waterline just bellow the armored deck in some places, which was one of the major downsides with the power-plant proposal.
    However the Design itself was never seen through, due to the rather advanced and ambitious nature of the Tier-tiered power-plant, and infrastructural and economic constraints of the time.

  • @troltron
    @troltron 22 дня назад +7

    The fleet that sinks itself, the Germans loved them!

  • @dustysgirl1434
    @dustysgirl1434 Месяц назад +3

    I always wait in anticipation to hear him say “I’m your friend Mike Brady..”
    🇺🇸

  • @dogsbodyish8403
    @dogsbodyish8403 29 дней назад +1

    Bold concept and some very brave people! Thanks for anther interesting and informative video.

  • @evanhughes3027
    @evanhughes3027 Месяц назад +1

    This is the most illuminated foreshadowing ever to be shaded or lit. Thanks, my friend.

  • @murph64
    @murph64 Месяц назад +4

    “Kalamity class” sounds like it’d be a D&D thing, in this essay I will

  • @jordanpeterson5140
    @jordanpeterson5140 Месяц назад +9

    Yay, the dapper Australian finally did a video on the aquatic lawn dart!

  • @stephenpayne4896
    @stephenpayne4896 Месяц назад +1

    Absolutely fascinating and thoroughly absorbing. What a sorry story! I’ve always been interested in the K class and the subsequent derivatives, and this fully provided gripping insight.

  • @thehappysimpleton
    @thehappysimpleton Месяц назад +1

    killed me with the "foreshadowing". Great vid. Starting to love these.

  • @njm5642
    @njm5642 Месяц назад +8

    One of, if not the most absurd naval disaster in history.

    • @Ray-pu6wr
      @Ray-pu6wr Месяц назад +1

      Eh.
      My vote would be HMS Captain

    • @ZGryphon
      @ZGryphon Месяц назад +2

      His Swedish Majesty's warship _Vasa_ would like a word as well.

    • @temerityxd8602
      @temerityxd8602 Месяц назад

      Operation Viking and the Honda point disaster are both pretty strong contenders for that title.

    • @Ray-pu6wr
      @Ray-pu6wr Месяц назад

      @@temerityxd8602 Neither of those incidents were the fault of the ships themselves though.

    • @CruelestChris
      @CruelestChris 27 дней назад +1

      @@Ray-pu6wr
      Neither was May Island, it was a helm fault that could never be replicated and would have been a minor incident with two casualties if Lier hadn't decided to Leeroy Jenkins an entire squadron of subs into his own fleet.

  • @racerxforever2765
    @racerxforever2765 Месяц назад +4

    Only Britain can steam punk a idea

  • @rtqii
    @rtqii Месяц назад +1

    This is just what I needed to watch this morning. Thank you Mike!

  • @Del-Canada
    @Del-Canada 8 дней назад

    As a former sailor in the RCN I appreciate the fact that you didn't preface the ship's names with "the" HMS and so on. Also that you didn't call Nautilus "the Nautilus".

  • @MisterOcclusion
    @MisterOcclusion Месяц назад +4

    The moment I saw the title, I’m thinking, so you have to quench the fire before diving, and then wait for the boiler to reheat after surfacing, and you figure that’s a useful quality?

    • @danl6634
      @danl6634 29 дней назад +2

      Fuel oil for the boiler makes it much less of a headache.

    • @CruelestChris
      @CruelestChris 27 дней назад

      @danl6634
      Actually no, more of one, this was heavy fuel oil (bunker oil) which needs to be preheated since it normally has the consistency of asphalt.

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 24 дня назад

      ​@@CruelestChris
      No it doesn't have that sort of consistency at all. And the environment would have remained more than hot enough to keep the oil liquefied in any case, much to the chagrin of the crew no doubt.
      So in conclusion still "better" than quenching the fire in a conventional fuel oil boiler system.

    • @CruelestChris
      @CruelestChris 24 дня назад +1

      @skylined5534
      Yes it does, it's like treacle without a preheater.

  • @jmeyer3rn
    @jmeyer3rn Месяц назад +3

    War is hell.

  • @scottzema3103
    @scottzema3103 Месяц назад +1

    Fascinating as always. When I saw the design issues in the K series I was struck by the success of the eventual descendents of the vessels in the tumblehome design of the hulls of the Zumwalt class destroyers, which to the extent the function of the design of the K ships involved trying to straddle both surface and underwater travel at a fast speed seems to have been fulfilled in the tumblehome design. Another apparent function that was fulfilled was that of concealment from the enemy by being lower to the water, although each ship in entirely different ways; one by diving under the water and the later ship by adapting a stealth design against radar detection. Imagine if the tumblehome technology was sufficiently advanced in World War I for practical use and the very interesting ways it may have influenced submarine development and pointedly the K concept.

  • @benjaminzarzycki7650
    @benjaminzarzycki7650 Месяц назад

    Thank you so much! Sincerely! You finally came out with a new video not about the Titanic!

  • @cruisinguy6024
    @cruisinguy6024 Месяц назад +15

    The British admiralty had a long and distinguished history of consistently making poor decisions

  • @lilrockergirl500
    @lilrockergirl500 27 дней назад +3

    This reminded me of the S5, an experimental submarine built by the US. I won't spoil it if anyone wants to look it up, the story is insane.

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 24 дня назад +1

      Oh cool, no idea so I'm going to have a look now. Cheers!

  • @jacksonbedard2018
    @jacksonbedard2018 Месяц назад

    I have been waiting for your presentation of this calamity for so long!

  • @trevorconnatser6161
    @trevorconnatser6161 Месяц назад +2

    Definitely do a video on the Monitor class submarines you mentioned at the end, super unique class of submarine. Or a video on X-1, one of my favorite submarines ever. WW1 and interwar submarines were so unique

  • @foo219
    @foo219 29 дней назад +4

    Traditionally the worst enemy of the Royal Nave has always been the Admiralty.

    • @oriontaylor
      @oriontaylor 18 дней назад +1

      No, the RN’s worst enemy has always been the treasury.

  • @BrownEyePinch
    @BrownEyePinch Месяц назад +3

    Steam power needs exhaust 😂

    • @OceanlinerDesigns
      @OceanlinerDesigns  Месяц назад +3

      Sadly yes :s

    • @792slayer
      @792slayer Месяц назад +1

      Well, yes but no. Modern nuke boats are very technically steam driven.

    • @Larssema
      @Larssema Месяц назад

      ​@@792slayer it wasnt like that in the 1st and 2nd world war, the innovation wasnt that far yet

    • @792slayer
      @792slayer Месяц назад +2

      @@Larssema I realize that. I just like bringing up that modern nuclear ships still use steam for power generation. A surprising number of people don't know that.

    • @Larssema
      @Larssema Месяц назад +1

      @@792slayer im being 100% honest, i did not know it either, i do know there are nuclear powered ships, but i dont know how it all works

  • @LB1973
    @LB1973 Месяц назад +1

    been waiting for years for a decent channel to do the K boats! at last!

  • @Hairnicks
    @Hairnicks Месяц назад +2

    Wow that was so interesting, I've never heard this story about the K Class subs. Thank you Mike.

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 24 дня назад +1

      Same. I'm a little ignorant of pre wwII hardware so this was fascinating!

  • @cliveherbert9476
    @cliveherbert9476 26 дней назад +4

    So the K Class aren't Submarines, they are Submersibles. They are designed to be on the surface 98% of the time to keep up with the fleet, but are able to submerge for very short periods. At a time when diesel engines were just in development & submarine design was at it's infancy.

    • @sergeychmelev5270
      @sergeychmelev5270 25 дней назад +2

      They _were_ submarines by the standards of their time. Pretty much every submarine created before the 1940s was a “submersible” spending about 90% of the time on the surface.

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 24 дня назад

      That's a mighty sharp axe you have and I'm sure you've split many a hair with it.

  • @thestig1611
    @thestig1611 Месяц назад

    Mike, it's such a pleasure to see your channel continue to grow and succeed.

  • @wmorgan9331
    @wmorgan9331 27 дней назад

    I was very curious about WWI subs and couldn't find much of any info online. Then I saw this and now I have the whole picture in just 27 minutes! Thanks for such a great video!!!

  • @allanfifield8256
    @allanfifield8256 28 дней назад +2

    The answer to the propulsion plant problem for submarines is now quite obvious: Clean, proven sail power!

  • @BPond7
    @BPond7 Месяц назад

    Fascinating video, Mike! I’d love to see more videos on submarines in the future. 🖖😀

  • @joshhaberle3840
    @joshhaberle3840 Месяц назад +2

    An amazing follow up from watching the THG stream!

  • @martinchamberlain542
    @martinchamberlain542 Месяц назад

    What a wonderful and informative video, i enjoyed this so much . Many thanks!

  • @martinjf467
    @martinjf467 28 дней назад +1

    Very interesting article Mike, well done! Nice to see the M2 and the M1... we dived M2 off Portand about 15 years ago. Fascinating dive although a plankton bloom mid water above us - think dense green cloud, meant it was extremely dark. The hanger door is open and you can clearly see the launch rail for the Parnell Pito light float plane. Lets have more like this please! Thank you.

  • @GeirTheNorwegian
    @GeirTheNorwegian 29 дней назад

    Love your content. Very knowledgeable, I always learn lots of new things and history I didn't know. And just as important for videos like this on RUclips - a very good voice for narration, that's very comfortable to listen to. Keep up the good work! Greetings from Norway! 😊👍🇳🇴

  • @7thsealord888
    @7thsealord888 Месяц назад +1

    Great video.
    It is ironic that, post-ww1, the US Navy also became obsessed with the 'fleet submarine' concept - submarines with the speed and range to keep up with the rest of the fleet. They did not go with steam power though - presumably the British Ks and Ms were a cautionary tale.
    But the USN did develop an entire series of fleet submarines up through the 1920s and 1930s. The end-result of this evolution were the submarines used to devastating affect in the Pacific during ww2. Whilst never used for the original purpose of accompanying the main fleet, they had the speed and range to be especially effective in that theatre of war.

    • @lancerevell5979
      @lancerevell5979 Месяц назад +2

      The "Fleet Sub" concept finally culminated in the nuclear powered USS Triton. A huge boat at the time, it was fast enough (30+ knots UNDERWATER) to range out ahead of the battle fleet to surface and use their powerful radar as a picket boat. It was soon replaced by carrier launched radar planes. Then Triton was repurposed for SpecOps. Running her that fast at depth must have been quite a ride! 😎👍

  • @davidponseigo8811
    @davidponseigo8811 27 дней назад +2

    Two of my family members Captained some of America's first submarines, Lt. Richard Sauffley and Admiral George McFadden O'Rear.

  • @TB9988
    @TB9988 7 часов назад

    The Idea of steam powered subs also came up in Germany. There was a design called Project 50. A prototype was ordered and may or may not have beeen under construction at the end of the WWI. There is only one known genaral drawing of this type. The big difference was that the boilers were fittet in seperate compartmets outside the main hull. There were rumors of special diving boilers that could be flooded. It looks to me like the boiler rooms were not pressure tight, which suports this theory. As nearly all information about this type is lost, we will never know how it would have worked out.

  • @C2Baird
    @C2Baird 29 дней назад

    Great insight Mike, keep it up!

  • @BJ-hh1tk
    @BJ-hh1tk Месяц назад

    Informative and entertaining as always

  • @lesleygiles8924
    @lesleygiles8924 29 дней назад

    I've been waiting for your take on this debacle. I read about it 20yrs or so ago & just couldn't believe the general stupidity (& apathy) exhibited by the bigwigs in charge. Thank you for giving such a clear description of events here.

  • @BongoBaggins
    @BongoBaggins Месяц назад +2

    Small error: The narration of 1,400T at 10:34 doesn't match the displayed text of 1,4000T (extra zero)

  • @Rospajother
    @Rospajother 27 дней назад

    Enjoyed this, thankyou

  • @gm3801
    @gm3801 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks to that aussie lingo I now know why there is a K13 Memorial Park in Carlingford, western Sydney. I drove past it for years not knowing what it was. Thank you.

  • @WildStar2002
    @WildStar2002 Месяц назад

    Absolutely fascinating! I had no idea that steam power had ever even been *considered* for a submarine! 😶‍🌫

  • @vascamp4854
    @vascamp4854 Месяц назад

    I've watched and enjoyed so many of these videos, by now Mike Brady actually is my friend. Hello from Texas, friend.

  • @wazza33racer
    @wazza33racer 8 дней назад

    I remember one Royal Navy officer who said "turns like a battleship and has the bridge of a picket boat". The German submarine engineers must have been stunned when they heard about the steam powered K class subs.

  • @Endermanrule
    @Endermanrule Месяц назад +1

    Always a good day when mike uploads!

  • @mrfishyman
    @mrfishyman 28 дней назад +1

    Great vid. First typo I've ever seen here at 10:32 😂. Love the narration as always .

    • @TrondBrgeKrokli
      @TrondBrgeKrokli 26 дней назад

      Noticed it too, it was quite an eyeopener to imagine a 14 000 ton submarine 100 years ago. That would be a magnificent u-boat, but way ahead of its time.

  • @buckfaststradler4629
    @buckfaststradler4629 29 дней назад +1

    I worked in the Clyde Sub Base on the Gareloch where K 13 sank - the dead are buried in a cemetery very close to the base, I've seen the graves.

  • @williamwelch7
    @williamwelch7 Месяц назад

    Thanks Mike

  • @mattlorenzi5606
    @mattlorenzi5606 29 дней назад +1

    This is an amazingly interesting video. Well done!

  • @lukehorning3404
    @lukehorning3404 Месяц назад

    Another great video 👍

  • @RedFawcett
    @RedFawcett 28 дней назад

    You may have said it in your video and I didn't catch it, but one important thing to note is that the K-22 was actually the K-13 after the disastrous sinking incident, refitted and sent out with a new crew in tow. Maritime superstiton at the time stated a vessel that sank and lost its crew was considered unlucky, so most often such a vessel was renamed in an effort to throw off the portent of disaster.
    It didn't work in this case.