My grandfather served on Dreadnought in WW1. The ship was obsolete by then, as she couldn't keep up to the battlefleet speed. He never spoke much about his RN experience, my only physical memory is my grandparents wedding photo showing him in his naval uniform of petty officer. However, I do remember he was glad not to be posted to a battlecruiser under Beatty, because Beatty was considered reckless and the battlecruisers were called "eggshells armed with sledgehammers" !
@@evansquilt If Beatty were here to read your comment today he might say "There seems to be something wrong with our RUclips comments today! *Explodes*"
My Dad went all the way through WW2 on the battlecruiser HMS Renown. They fought in the Atlantic. Escorted Arctic convoys. Went up and down the Med helping to liberate Malta and finished up in the Pacific at wars end. By then the last remaining Battlecruiser. Scrapped in 1948. The year I was born funnily enough.
@@evansquilt It's not really so much of an armor problem as it is reckless ammunition handling. Beatty ordered faster reloads and the crews achieved that by skimping on safety measures. HMS Lion actually managed to have her blast doors close and she survived the turret hit that would've otherwise ammoracked the whole ship.
"The Royal Navy has always been pretty good at choosing awesome names" HMS Fancy, HMS Broke, HMS Cockchafer, HMS Black Joke and HMS Pansy would like a word
A few comments on the video: One of the major advantages of the turbine was sadly glossed over: The steam turbine didn't necessarily produce higher top speeds - though some turbine ships certainly did reach very high top speeds - but a turbine ship could maintain that speed for longer. A reciprocating engine has a piston moving up and down. Thus the mass of the piston and the connecting rod has to be accellerated and decellerated again and again. This doesn't just absorb energy, it creates vibrations. At high speed, a piston steam engine could effecively shake itself appart. A reasonably well balaced turbine in comparison can maintain it's nominal maximum power for as long as there's coal to feed the boilers. The issue of fire controll was coverd in the video, but I think it deserved a bit more attention. Previously, a naval gun's effective range was far, far lower than its maximum range due to the inability to actually hit a target at long range. The use of smaller callibre secondary and tertiary batteries was basically a case of "throw as much shit at the wall as you can and hope some of it will stick". The advent of new technology like the coincidence rangefinder and the electromechanical fire controll computer - mentioned in the video - made it possible to actually use the great range heavy guns of the time were capable off. Thus the "all big guns, one calibre" battleship concept became viable.
@@rob5944 True. And I guess I sounded a bit more critical than I wanted to. Still, those two factors played a signifcant role in why the dreadnought type battleships were designed that way - and why they showed up at that point in time. So they are - at least in my humble opinion - quite important.
@@rob5944 While I do work in a mechanical job, my knowlegde of turbines is limited at best. That said, this is an interesting question. On one hand, I would have said that a turbine can only work in one direction but those turbines were afaik - and I belive Mike said so in the vid - not geared turbines, but direct drive. At the same time, a ship must have some ability to run its screws in reverse to break and reverse. So, either there's something I'm missing, or I'm simply dead wrong about my belive that turbines can only be run in one direction. Did large ships of the time have variable pitch screws? I never heard of it, but I can't rule it out right now.
I did see on RUclips a mechanical fire control computer. It worked in real time and factors like your speed and direction the enemies speed and direction plus wind where factored in and gave a continuous result for all guns. The gun crews loaded the guns and reported ready to fire control and manually followed the direction and elevation displayed to all turrets all guns could be fired remotely. If fire control was damaged guns could sight and fire independently. Control of direction and elevation of turrets became automatic following fire control commands, the gun crews just loading the guns. Here is some information on the fire control systems. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_gun_fire-control_system#:~:text=The%20UK%20built%20their%20first,the%20firing%20and%20target%20ships.
For weeks I've been wondering why HMS Dreadnought specifically became a gamechanger in naval history compared to literally any other warship. And I've read how she was essentially better at everything compared to pre-dreadnaught ships but for some reason I wasn't satisfied with the answer. Thank you Mike Brady from Oceanliner Designs. You are truly a great friend and a great teacher in your expertise
My thought is it was kind of the iPhone of its day. The tech was all there already, Dreadnought just combined everything: Krupp Armour was there and used; the guns were used on previous classes, albeit less of them; the Turbine engine was invented in the 1890s and used on torpedo boats and destroyers. The catalyst of her design came from the Battle of Tsushima where ship combat actually occurred a lot further than previously thought, and secondaries proved less suited. Ironically though, Dreadnought made all the other battleships obsolete so gave Germany an easier time catching up.
@@mpetersen6yeah that's the one thing that is immediately visually obvious looking at Dreadnought. Just because of that and her side turrets, she honestly still kind of looks more like a pre-dreadnought than... Well... a dreadnought.
I thought it was a Benny Hill joke, when the local tribesman said in reply to his English 'we love the locals - bullum bullam' type speech. Thankyou, and come this way but mind you do not step in the Bunga Bunga.
@@TerryHickey-xt4mf Like I already said not like times now since that would really be something you can't do today then again when that ship was made it was also a time of colonialism and when big countries actually owned other countries. Along with other things not OK in our times.
i wouldn't say 40 years is a short time. in 40 years the idea of the tank was perfected, firearms were largely revolver type, or bolt action type and wound up being fully automatic in many different calibers, airplanes went from not being a thing to being used for international travel in 40 years. with warships 40 years might not be long a time, but i feel they are the exception, but maybe the aircraft carirer is partly why it seems like "the golden age of battleships" was so short
@@amp8295 I believe that @DoubleMrE was referring to the revolution in ship design that HMS Dreadnought brought about rather than a ship built to Dreadnought's exact blueprints. There appears room for argument whether or not ships deemed fast battleships of the interwar and WWII era are sufficiently novel compared to Dreadnought and other prewar/WWI ships, but arguably the basic paradigm of steam-turbines and hull streamlining for speed, simplification and standardization of the armament, standardization of the of the armor scheme, and improvements in fire control started with Dreadnought and essentially ended with the final ships from the UK, US, Italy, Germany, France, and Japan in WWII. If one wants to differentiate fast-battleships from Dreadnoughts it's also fine, the Washington Naval Treaty seems to have created a fairly clear distinction in the sense that WWI ships and interwar ships respecting the treaty, and WWII ships or treaty-violators make for a fairly decent dividing line.
Dreadnought itself existed only for 15 years as it was scrapped in 1921. Apparently the historical awareness to preserve it as the most game changing naval ship in modern history didn't exist.
Unopposed under crimson skies, Immortalized, over time, their legend will rise. And their foes can’t believe their eyes, believe their size, as they fall, And the Dreadnoughts dread nothing at all. ~ Dreadnought, Sabaton
A hull of steel and all big guns to serve the fleet Unrivaled firepower riding the waves to war A devastating blow will send their foes down Fearless armada now bombarding their shore Light up the night when cannons roar In fear of nothing *THEY LEAD THE NAVY INTO WAR!*
One thing that your animation shows quite well , was dreadnought’s biggest flaw to her design, her main spotting top was most of the time covered in smoke from the first funnel.
Smoke was possibly the lesser problem, funnel gases were so hot that the spotting top was uninhabitable when the ship was at speed. Fortunately this was corrected at a later refit. Who approved the original positioning? One Captain John Jellicoe, one of the RN's greatest gunnery officers, who as Admiral commanded the fleet at Jutland.
@@benoregan9525 Brady has been doing some Navy themed subjects lately which is why I thought about a Brad-Drac collab. I do wonder how good Drac's knowledge of passenger vessels are?
"Swarms of fast, cheap torpedo boats could encircle lumbering, expensive battleships and cruisers, send field of torpedoes toward them, and cause all kinds of havoc." Kamchatka: "do you see torpedo boats?" 😧
Master and Commander is very much one of the greatest films ever made. Shame it didn't get widespread acclaim and it definitely deserved better at the box office.
@@tyggeln - it also did a mediocre job of actually translating the Aubrey-Maturin series to film. Paul Bettany was badly miscast as Stephen, his career as a spy was completely omitted, and *none* of the landbound characters like Sir Joseph, Sophie, Diana, or Queeny were even mentioned. Russell Crowe was fine as Jack Aubrey, sea captain, but there was no hint of his problems handling his fortune on land. Worst of all, you had to be familiar with the series to have even the slightest idea what was going on during the initial fight with the Acheron that begins the film. I read them years ago (and have cursed my ex for taking all our copies when we split) so I figured out pretty quickly what Peter Weir was doing, but the average moviegoer would have been nearly as lost in the fog as the Surprise. I hope there's a TV series at some point that could actually delve into the characters and social situations. Patrick O'Brian was an expert on Age of Sail ships and sailing, but he was nearly as good as Jane Austen at portraying Georgian/Regency society. I'd love to see an Aubrey-Maturin series about that as well as life on HMS Surprise (or HMS Leopard, or HMS Sophie, or the Nutmeg of Consolation, or any of the others).
@@evansquilt I managed to buy the first book in the series of 21 in a charity shop about 10 years ago. Then managed to borrow the rest from the local library. I am now at present buying all the books as and when I can find them in ch shops so I can have another read without having to wait on the library.. As for the film, they did a reasonable good job with it, it would be very nice to see another follow on film.
The audio versions are read by Simon Vance. One of the best if not the best narrators of fiction out there. He not only brings Jack and the doctor to life but all the rest of the characters.
@@pdunderhill As far as I remember Warrior was designed, approved, built and Commissioned in response to the French Ironclad La Gloire. I'm fairly certain that HMS WARRIOR had made her practically obsolet over night.
@@HrLBolleWarrior was an overreach that was only so formidable on paper. It was too ambitious too suddenly and unlike Dreadnought, its design and construction flaws were far more numerous and problematic. But yeah, it would most likely have beaten the Gloire in a fight. Thankfully so, as it was nearly twice the displacement
Michael Brady! I cancelled my cable and now watch RUclips exclusively. I have been a wargame designer and amateur historian for the past 65 years. I guess military history is my primary venue, but I maintain wide interests in my dotage. I simply want to convey to you my deep respect and admiration for your work. EVERY presentation of yours is so above the average that I have NEVER found a presentation of yours that is anywhere below excellent. I dislike getting gooey-eyed and gushing like a school girl, but you wholly deserve to be acknowledge for your insight and craftmanship. Simply excellent. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Yes the taxes on which I have been many many times throughout my life is being restored again in Galveston and that will be her new home port. We are all looking forward to going to board her again in late 2025
@@jayabsher4498 yes she sure is were very proud of her I remember going on board the ship as a little boy in the early 1960s and there was a lot more stuff on board and all the rooms. A lot of it got robbed when it went in for restoration some years ago. The construction people walked off with a lot of things, radio and radar sets all that stuff. Besides fixing up the ship it needs a lot of those sort of things. I made suggestions to the Texas state parks department and most of them were rejected. How to bring the ship alive with sounds in special effects for instance but they just were not interested.
Mike, I'm glad you added a mention of the Dreadnought Hoax. Some fun facts are that the faux Abyssinian on the far left of the picture you showed is the author Virginia Woolf (still Virginia Stephen at that time) and the man at the far right is Duncan Grant, the post-impressionist painter, and the tall man at the back may be Virginia's brother Adrian Stephen who later, along with his wife Karin, became two of the first British psychoanalysts.
The reason why Dreadnought was such a step change was that the combination of higher speed, fire control, and big guns made her effectively completely invincible. The big guns and the fire control meant that she could reliably hit other battleships as longer ranges than they could hit her at. And her greater speed meant that she could choose the range that the engagement happened at. If the other ship tried to close the range, she could stay away, and if the other ship tried to escape, she could comfortably keep pace and keep it within range of her guns. Together, these effects meant that there was a band of range where Dreadnought could hit other battleships without being hit in return, and because she could maintain that battle range indefinitely, she was effectively invulnerable. So she had the ability to go and choose to destroy any ship at will without suffering any damage. And she could do that over and over, keeping a whole battle line at that range and effectively picking apart the whole enemy fleet one ship at a time, and there was nothing that another navy could do to stop her.
It's unusual, that steam turbine was approved for warship use so quickly. After all, it was entirely new technology at the moment, so it's a bit of a mystery, how usually conservative admirals suddenly got so confident in that new engine.
HMS Dreadnought was such a game-changer that she gave her name to an entire type of warship, the dreadnought battleship. Strictly speaking, all the later battleships -- the Bismarcks and Warspites and Iowas and Yamatos -- were dreadnoughts, but after a while they stopped calling them that because nobody would waste time building non-dreadnoughts any more. But the name "dreadnought" still shows up a lot in sci-fi, because it is just so awesome and such a fitting name for a ship that can kick names and take ass better than anything else ...
@@ceu160193 Admiral Jackie Fisher and his speed obsession. He was also cleaning house at the Admiralty getting rid of dozens of old warships basically putting the navy in the position of "We have to make new warships because our usual warships are now obsolete and FISHER, STOP BUILDING! GOD DAMN IT! EVERYTHING'S OBSOLETE AGAIN! AAAAHHHHH!!!!" He was well known for this as he had made a proposal for a warship called Nonsuch years before with a similar mission profile but was told no. However the admiralty's prophecy that a naval arms race would be ruinous for the Empire ultimately proved correct
Interesting story. Can you tell me about Queen Mary as a troop carrier when she danced with a "Rogue Wave" in WW2 With 10,000 troops? How many troops were hurt or killed? She listed at about 45 to 50 degrees. Cheers, Larry, B.C., Canada.
You should start doing more about battleships, this episode is actually outstanding. I've seen many Dreadnought videos and was not expecting to learn much new, but I did. Congratulations!
@@TerryHickey-xt4mf Really true on that and also those people behind the stunt wouldn't be done in our times considering all the stuff we have now vs back when this ship was made and racism wasn't a big deal along with colonialism.
I would argue against calling battleships useless, yes they were eclipsed by the aircraft carrier as the queen of the chessboard but they still had their uses. They were indispensable as shore bombardment units and were lethal to Japanese aircraft as fast escorts for the fleet carriers with their 5"38's and 40MM cannons. The Iowa class BB's were brought back for Korea, in the Vietnam War the New Jersey was brought back. "If it weren't for the Big J they'd have zapped our ass!" A quote I heard relayed by her Captain from that era. They reactivated the whole class in the 1980's and it wasn't until the early 2000's the Wisconsin was struck from the navy list. There is nothing afloat today that can do what a battleship could do. Having said all of that I want to thank you Mike for another great video. Cheers.👍
Excellent video One point about Dreadnought is the reliability of her steam turbines. The old triple expansion engines could not be full at full speed for extended periods without the risk of something breaking, It's said that after a day of full speed steaming a ship would spend a week in harbor repairing it's engines. The steam turbine also caused far less vibration which aided gunnery.
Great video. The fire control system was an extraordinary step forward and must be one of the first examples of what is clearly what we would call a computer in everyday practical use.
Tiniest of corrections: The name didn't just mean "fear nothing," more fully it means "obey God and you may fear nothing else in this world." "Fear God and Dread Nought Else!" And yes the U.K. does have quite the knack for naming ships. ❤ Warspite
it's my good friend Mike Brady - i cannot adequately express how thankful i am, not only that your content is engaging & informative, but also that you narrate it yourself - too much of what we see online these days has a computer-generated voice-over that doesn't quite speak english - thanks again for your wonderful work
The early obsolescence with new technology is not without peer. Aircraft had a similar development arc. Look at the TBD Devastator - utterly revolutionary when conceived, but the pace of development left it completely outclassed by the time it had to serve.
Your sense of humor, knowledge of the subject and that excellent 'accent'.....all make for a wonderful channel....BRAVO! "Master and Commander" is also one of my all-time favorite movies ( along with another of Mr. Crowe's movies...."Gladiator"). The life of being on one of those ships is done so marvelous..... no kidding, I've probably watched it over 50 times (!). Cindy 🐴.....from the Western North Carolina Mountains, USA.......
Now I need to know more about the Bunga Bunga Incident. Faking being random tourists is one thing, but faking a diplomatic delegation? Whoever was supposed to check their credentials probably had a very long and unpleasant meeting with his boss shortly thereafter…
And now, we have Ford Class Aircraft carriers. The evolution of warships is quite fascinating. Thanks for explaining the Dreadnought and her place in that evolution. Nicely done, Mike Brady.
The English are great at naming!! The HMS Thunderer is the BEST name for a war ship ever!! Side note, the HMS Thunderchild is probably the most famous/successful ram ship EVER!!
It's a damned shame Dreadnought wasn't preserved as a museum ship. You'd think that since Japan was allowed to keep Mikasa as a museum ship under the Washington Naval Treaty, a similar exception could have been made for Dreadnought, but alas, it wasn't to be.
I love the story of all kinds of old ships. Mr. Brady tells these stories so we'll with a kind of awetisim of the period. The fact that he seems British makes him that much more authentic.
I’m about halfway through Robert K. Massie’s “Dreadnought,” while watching this, pretty cool noticing references and understanding the context of the dreadnought
HMVS/HMCS Cerberus still exists in Port Phillip Bay in Australia, one of the first British turreted warships (Breastwork Monitor). She sailed under her own power from Britain to Victoria in Australia.
One unfortunate aspect of Dreadnought’s design was the location of the main gunnery fire control station, located on the foremast directly behind the forward funnel, this meant that smoke from the funnel would obscure vision from the fire control station and the heat made it an incredibly uncomfortable place to be, this situation was rectified in the following design, H.M.S. Bellerophon and her sister ships, with the relocation of the fore mast to a position in front of the forward funnel.
While everyone got excited by the big guns, the turbine engines were the real revolution for a world patrolling navy. One huge advantage was full speed could be achieved for hours, where triple expansion engines could only exceed cruising speed for a few hours without needing repairs in dockyard later.
My great great grandfather was an RN stoker pre-WWI, and while stationed in the Far East, his wife died - until he arrived back, left alone, my great grandmother, Elizabeth, 12 at the time, took in washing, while younger brother, Charlie, supplemented their food with stuff that "fell off the back of a barrow" at Charlotte Street Market, and was a "Mudlark" for coppers down at the Camber. I grew up with these people into my teens, yet their story is like something out of Dickens (another Pompeyite). Incredible that the families of sailors (and the working class) lived like this at the height of Britain's power - what an indictment of social inequality!
You know a design is special when it is used to define every other design; After the introduction of Dreadnought, all battleships were either dreadnoughts themselves, if built after her, or pre-dreadnoughts, if they still had the old mixed main armament.
Likewise, even though USS Forrestal's name was not kept to describe modern angled-deck large carriers, the epithet that was used to describe her, "Supercarrier," was.
Always a plesure when you do videos of war ships, and ive always liked the look of ironclads and early battleships. Great visuals and story telling as usual
Japan and the United States actually started planning all big gun battleships before Britain. Dreadnought only won out because the American ship took longer to design and build and the Japanese design was scaled back due to financial concerns. But if either had succeeded we may have seen a world where nations proudly boasted about how many Satsumas or South Carolinas their navies possessed instead of Dreadnoughts.
Well, in both cases, those designs lacked Dreadnought's other critical innovations: speed due to steam turbines, and so on. Dreadnought was so impactful because it was a convergence of several new technologies, not just having all big guns. The speed that Dreadnought itself was built was also an implicit message about Britain's shipbuilding industry. In the time that it took for the US to build South Carolina, the British built Dreadnought plus four more dreadnoughts.
back in the mid-90s i got my hands on one of those old 70s-era Time-Life hardcover books, this one was 'The Dreadnoughts', it was a pretty detailed history of the lead up to the building of HMS dreadnought, post-dreadnought evolutions, fairly detailed overviews of the naval engagements in WW1 involving battleships, plus a pretty good bio on jacky fisher and smaller ones on other important players like von moltke, tirpitz, scheer, hipper, jellicoe, beatty. if one can find it (I imagine pretty hard to do these days) its well worth the purchase and read
Terrific job & video our friend Mike Brady, this is a welcomed ship & time for ships & not one mention of Titanic which pleases me so. I look forward to more variety in ships & their legacies along with the men & women that made history with them.
I never thought you would come out with a video like this! Dreadnoughts are some of my favorite warships! Can you do the HMS Victory or Warrior next, or maybe Gloire?
Those of us who have worked in military procurement can only marvel at Fisher's tenacity in driving his project, bringing together radical new technological and tactical concepts, from a doodle on a napkin to commissioning in just 3 years.
1.) Great mustache! 2.) HMS Dreadnought may have only had one sunk Uboat to her credit, but it took out one of Germany's most capable and famous Uboat commanders, Otto Weddigen, who had sunk four British cruisers during his career (HMS Hawke, HMS Aboukir, HMS Hogue and HMS Cressy).
I've known the significance in the general design differences of the ship it's of course for quite a while. But I did appreciate the historical context fleshed out it added to my appreciation.
Excellent video! There are so many tangents that could spin off from here- the Russian Baltic Fleet's voyage of the damned to Tsushima, the incredibly wacky 1866 Battle of Lissa, and Jackie Fisher's final monstrous design, the never-built HMS *Incomparable*
Been playing Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnaughts and for a strict ship v ship game, the technology changes are VERY noticable when going through the campaign. I find it funny that the same change in concept they had IRL is the same exact changes I did in game
One of the most interesting thing about the Dreadnought revolution is that, although she was a British ship, her existence massively undermined the dominant position of the Royal Navy. It sounds counterintuitive, but when a new design renders all previous designs obsolete, the entity with the largest stake in the old design stands to lose the most, and the Royal Navy had a LOT of pre-Dreadnought battleships that suddenly became outdated overnight.
My grandfather served on Dreadnought in WW1. The ship was obsolete by then, as she couldn't keep up to the battlefleet speed. He never spoke much about his RN experience, my only physical memory is my grandparents wedding photo showing him in his naval uniform of petty officer. However, I do remember he was glad not to be posted to a battlecruiser under Beatty, because Beatty was considered reckless and the battlecruisers were called "eggshells armed with sledgehammers" !
He wasn't wrong about that. Beatty was not nearly as good as he thought he was, and battlecruisers were dreadfully underarmored.
@@evansquilt If Beatty were here to read your comment today he might say "There seems to be something wrong with our RUclips comments today! *Explodes*"
My Dad went all the way through WW2 on the battlecruiser HMS Renown. They fought in the Atlantic. Escorted Arctic convoys. Went up and down the Med helping to liberate Malta and finished up in the Pacific at wars end. By then the last remaining Battlecruiser. Scrapped in 1948. The year I was born funnily enough.
@@evansquilt It's not really so much of an armor problem as it is reckless ammunition handling. Beatty ordered faster reloads and the crews achieved that by skimping on safety measures.
HMS Lion actually managed to have her blast doors close and she survived the turret hit that would've otherwise ammoracked the whole ship.
Woah, cool!
"The Royal Navy has always been pretty good at choosing awesome names"
HMS Fancy, HMS Broke, HMS Cockchafer, HMS Black Joke and HMS Pansy would like a word
Don't forget the greatest example-- Boaty McBoatface.
Black Joke? Really?
I actually looked up HMS Splendid, which Drac(can’t spell his name) uses on his logo, and was surprised to find that it’s real
HMS Black Joke was the longest ship in the Royal Navy.
@@seanbigay1042 - it means dark/black humor. Like Black Mirror.
A few comments on the video:
One of the major advantages of the turbine was sadly glossed over: The steam turbine didn't necessarily produce higher top speeds - though some turbine ships certainly did reach very high top speeds - but a turbine ship could maintain that speed for longer.
A reciprocating engine has a piston moving up and down. Thus the mass of the piston and the connecting rod has to be accellerated and decellerated again and again. This doesn't just absorb energy, it creates vibrations. At high speed, a piston steam engine could effecively shake itself appart.
A reasonably well balaced turbine in comparison can maintain it's nominal maximum power for as long as there's coal to feed the boilers.
The issue of fire controll was coverd in the video, but I think it deserved a bit more attention.
Previously, a naval gun's effective range was far, far lower than its maximum range due to the inability to actually hit a target at long range. The use of smaller callibre secondary and tertiary batteries was basically a case of "throw as much shit at the wall as you can and hope some of it will stick".
The advent of new technology like the coincidence rangefinder and the electromechanical fire controll computer - mentioned in the video - made it possible to actually use the great range heavy guns of the time were capable off. Thus the "all big guns, one calibre" battleship concept became viable.
In fairness Mike did have a lot of info to cram in.
@@rob5944 True. And I guess I sounded a bit more critical than I wanted to.
Still, those two factors played a signifcant role in why the dreadnought type battleships were designed that way - and why they showed up at that point in time. So they are - at least in my humble opinion - quite important.
@@Bird_Dog00 yes of course. I believe there are constraints on videos over half an hour. Weren't early turbines incapable of running backwards?
@@rob5944 While I do work in a mechanical job, my knowlegde of turbines is limited at best.
That said, this is an interesting question.
On one hand, I would have said that a turbine can only work in one direction but those turbines were afaik - and I belive Mike said so in the vid - not geared turbines, but direct drive.
At the same time, a ship must have some ability to run its screws in reverse to break and reverse.
So, either there's something I'm missing, or I'm simply dead wrong about my belive that turbines can only be run in one direction.
Did large ships of the time have variable pitch screws? I never heard of it, but I can't rule it out right now.
I did see on RUclips a mechanical fire control computer. It worked in real time and factors like your speed and direction the enemies speed and direction plus wind where factored in and gave a continuous result for all guns. The gun crews loaded the guns and reported ready to fire control and manually followed the direction and elevation displayed to all turrets all guns could be fired remotely. If fire control was damaged guns could sight and fire independently. Control of direction and elevation of turrets became automatic following fire control commands, the gun crews just loading the guns. Here is some information on the fire control systems.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_gun_fire-control_system#:~:text=The%20UK%20built%20their%20first,the%20firing%20and%20target%20ships.
For weeks I've been wondering why HMS Dreadnought specifically became a gamechanger in naval history compared to literally any other warship. And I've read how she was essentially better at everything compared to pre-dreadnaught ships but for some reason I wasn't satisfied with the answer.
Thank you Mike Brady from Oceanliner Designs. You are truly a great friend and a great teacher in your expertise
Her: "He's probably thinking about other girls."
Him: "I wonder specifically how HMS Dreadnought became a gamechanger..."
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@@OceanlinerDesigns Lmao that's a good one
My thought is it was kind of the iPhone of its day. The tech was all there already, Dreadnought just combined everything: Krupp Armour was there and used; the guns were used on previous classes, albeit less of them; the Turbine engine was invented in the 1890s and used on torpedo boats and destroyers. The catalyst of her design came from the Battle of Tsushima where ship combat actually occurred a lot further than previously thought, and secondaries proved less suited. Ironically though, Dreadnought made all the other battleships obsolete so gave Germany an easier time catching up.
The thing that Beatty and the designers missed out on was superfiring turrets.
@@mpetersen6yeah that's the one thing that is immediately visually obvious looking at Dreadnought. Just because of that and her side turrets, she honestly still kind of looks more like a pre-dreadnought than... Well... a dreadnought.
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@@ericsmock711 Thanks!
Bunga bunga!!! Our friend Mike Brady is truly rocking his new stache!!!❤❤❤
He's sporting a new figurehead on his bow, so to speak.
What? I thought maybe his mum had just given him a chocolate ice cream.
Not something if this was in our times.
I thought it was a Benny Hill joke, when the local tribesman said in reply to his English 'we love the locals - bullum bullam' type speech. Thankyou, and come this way but mind you do not step in the Bunga Bunga.
@@TerryHickey-xt4mf Like I already said not like times now since that would really be something you can't do today then again when that ship was made it was also a time of colonialism and when big countries actually owned other countries. Along with other things not OK in our times.
It’s interesting how short the life of dreadnoughts was. Dreadnought commissioned in 1906 and the last one, HMS Vanguard in 1946.
Ironclads and pre-dreadnoughts had even shorter lifespans.
I thought HMS vanguard was officially not a dreadnought.
i wouldn't say 40 years is a short time. in 40 years the idea of the tank was perfected, firearms were largely revolver type, or bolt action type and wound up being fully automatic in many different calibers, airplanes went from not being a thing to being used for international travel in 40 years. with warships 40 years might not be long a time, but i feel they are the exception, but maybe the aircraft carirer is partly why it seems like "the golden age of battleships" was so short
@@amp8295 I believe that @DoubleMrE was referring to the revolution in ship design that HMS Dreadnought brought about rather than a ship built to Dreadnought's exact blueprints. There appears room for argument whether or not ships deemed fast battleships of the interwar and WWII era are sufficiently novel compared to Dreadnought and other prewar/WWI ships, but arguably the basic paradigm of steam-turbines and hull streamlining for speed, simplification and standardization of the armament, standardization of the of the armor scheme, and improvements in fire control started with Dreadnought and essentially ended with the final ships from the UK, US, Italy, Germany, France, and Japan in WWII.
If one wants to differentiate fast-battleships from Dreadnoughts it's also fine, the Washington Naval Treaty seems to have created a fairly clear distinction in the sense that WWI ships and interwar ships respecting the treaty, and WWII ships or treaty-violators make for a fairly decent dividing line.
Dreadnought itself existed only for 15 years as it was scrapped in 1921. Apparently the historical awareness to preserve it as the most game changing naval ship in modern history didn't exist.
Unopposed under crimson skies,
Immortalized, over time, their legend will rise.
And their foes can’t believe their eyes, believe their size, as they fall,
And the Dreadnoughts dread nothing at all. ~ Dreadnought, Sabaton
Was looking for this
A hull of steel and all big guns to serve the fleet
Unrivaled firepower riding the waves to war
A devastating blow will send their foes down
Fearless armada now bombarding their shore
Light up the night when cannons roar
In fear of nothing
*THEY LEAD THE NAVY INTO WAR!*
I knew Dreadnought was revolutionary, but never why. You explained it very nicely, friend Mike! Thank you.
The Abyssinians were far more revolutionary. Keep up!
One thing that your animation shows quite well , was dreadnought’s biggest flaw to her design, her main spotting top was most of the time covered in smoke from the first funnel.
Smoke was possibly the lesser problem, funnel gases were so hot that the spotting top was uninhabitable when the ship was at speed. Fortunately this was corrected at a later refit. Who approved the original positioning? One Captain John Jellicoe, one of the RN's greatest gunnery officers, who as Admiral commanded the fleet at Jutland.
Thank you for making this members first and not members only! Now everyone can learn about HMS Dreadnought!
Okay who wants a Mike Brady-Drachinifel collaboration?!!
both are brilliant.
@@TerryHickey-xt4mf When it came up in my feed I thought it was!
Bunga bunga!
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Brady has been doing some Navy themed subjects lately which is why I thought about a Brad-Drac collab. I do wonder how good Drac's knowledge of passenger vessels are?
They complement one-another. A collaboration isn't necessary.
What a ship? You can only admire the R.N. for putting all this new tech in one ship. The father of all battleships. BUNGA BUNGA.
Great vid Mike.
"Swarms of fast, cheap torpedo boats could encircle lumbering, expensive battleships and cruisers, send field of torpedoes toward them, and cause all kinds of havoc."
Kamchatka: "do you see torpedo boats?" 😧
i see you are a man of culture as well,
*throws binoculars*
🤣🤣🤣
5 or 6 of them, from all directions!
And where exactly are we?
My snake laughed so hard, it choked on its Vodka.
Master and Commander is very much one of the greatest films ever made. Shame it didn't get widespread acclaim and it definitely deserved better at the box office.
It was a “guy” film which limited its appeal. It was the last film I saw alone before meeting my wife of nearly 20 years.
You really need to watch more cinema if you think that, lmao. Good battles, paper thin characters and corny ending.
@@tyggeln - it also did a mediocre job of actually translating the Aubrey-Maturin series to film. Paul Bettany was badly miscast as Stephen, his career as a spy was completely omitted, and *none* of the landbound characters like Sir Joseph, Sophie, Diana, or Queeny were even mentioned. Russell Crowe was fine as Jack Aubrey, sea captain, but there was no hint of his problems handling his fortune on land.
Worst of all, you had to be familiar with the series to have even the slightest idea what was going on during the initial fight with the Acheron that begins the film. I read them years ago (and have cursed my ex for taking all our copies when we split) so I figured out pretty quickly what Peter Weir was doing, but the average moviegoer would have been nearly as lost in the fog as the Surprise.
I hope there's a TV series at some point that could actually delve into the characters and social situations. Patrick O'Brian was an expert on Age of Sail ships and sailing, but he was nearly as good as Jane Austen at portraying Georgian/Regency society. I'd love to see an Aubrey-Maturin series about that as well as life on HMS Surprise (or HMS Leopard, or HMS Sophie, or the Nutmeg of Consolation, or any of the others).
@@evansquilt I managed to buy the first book in the series of 21 in a charity shop about 10 years ago. Then managed to borrow the rest from the local library.
I am now at present buying all the books as and when I can find them in ch shops so I can have another read without having to wait on the library..
As for the film, they did a reasonable good job with it, it would be very nice to see another follow on film.
The audio versions are read by Simon Vance. One of the best if not the best narrators of fiction out there. He not only brings Jack and the doctor to life but all the rest of the characters.
The way Dreadnought made nearly all naval combatants in-adequate mimics what happend when HMS WARRIOR took to the seas.
If my memory foam is correct
sabaton made a great choice for the ship
The French Ship Gloire may take that crown.
@@pdunderhill As far as I remember Warrior was designed, approved, built and Commissioned in response to the French Ironclad La Gloire.
I'm fairly certain that HMS WARRIOR had made her practically obsolet over night.
Gloire was converted from an all wood ship of the line, Warrior was the first purpose built, seagoing ironclad.
@@HrLBolleWarrior was an overreach that was only so formidable on paper. It was too ambitious too suddenly and unlike Dreadnought, its design and construction flaws were far more numerous and problematic. But yeah, it would most likely have beaten the Gloire in a fight. Thankfully so, as it was nearly twice the displacement
Michael Brady! I cancelled my cable and now watch RUclips exclusively. I have been a wargame designer and amateur historian for the past 65 years. I guess military history is my primary venue, but I maintain wide interests in my dotage. I simply want to convey to you my deep respect and admiration for your work. EVERY presentation of yours is so above the average that I have NEVER found a presentation of yours that is anywhere below excellent. I dislike getting gooey-eyed and gushing like a school girl, but you wholly deserve to be acknowledge for your insight and craftmanship. Simply excellent. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Agree completely, your remarks echo my thoughts about Mike Brady's outstanding work.!
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"Ladies and gentlemen it's your friend Michael Algernon Brady from Ocean Liner Designs"
You're right, it is an awesome name.
Eyyy, it's our friend Mike Brady from Moustachio Designs!
he is a big boy now, and a great one by the way AU.
The statement, dreadnought means fear nothing, is awesome and makes you smile.👊🏾👍🏾
Fisher liked it so much he put it in his coat of arms when made a baron
great name!
Fun fact: the last dreadnought type battleship is the USS Texas.
Luckily that tough Lassie is still with us.
She served in WWI and WWII. May she as an old now retired warhorse be preserved for etternity
Last existing Dreadnought type ship as she is considered a super dreadnaught.
Yes the taxes on which I have been many many times throughout my life is being restored again in Galveston and that will be her new home port. We are all looking forward to going to board her again in late 2025
@@randelbrooks I visited her a couple of times years ago when the engine room was still open to the public. The old girl is a hell of a sight.
@@jayabsher4498 yes she sure is were very proud of her I remember going on board the ship as a little boy in the early 1960s and there was a lot more stuff on board and all the rooms. A lot of it got robbed when it went in for restoration some years ago. The construction people walked off with a lot of things, radio and radar sets all that stuff. Besides fixing up the ship it needs a lot of those sort of things. I made suggestions to the Texas state parks department and most of them were rejected. How to bring the ship alive with sounds in special effects for instance but they just were not interested.
Mike, I'm glad you added a mention of the Dreadnought Hoax. Some fun facts are that the faux Abyssinian on the far left of the picture you showed is the author Virginia Woolf (still Virginia Stephen at that time) and the man at the far right is Duncan Grant, the post-impressionist painter, and the tall man at the back may be Virginia's brother Adrian Stephen who later, along with his wife Karin, became two of the first British psychoanalysts.
I was just looking through the comments to see if anyone had mentioned that! XD
The reason why Dreadnought was such a step change was that the combination of higher speed, fire control, and big guns made her effectively completely invincible. The big guns and the fire control meant that she could reliably hit other battleships as longer ranges than they could hit her at. And her greater speed meant that she could choose the range that the engagement happened at. If the other ship tried to close the range, she could stay away, and if the other ship tried to escape, she could comfortably keep pace and keep it within range of her guns. Together, these effects meant that there was a band of range where Dreadnought could hit other battleships without being hit in return, and because she could maintain that battle range indefinitely, she was effectively invulnerable. So she had the ability to go and choose to destroy any ship at will without suffering any damage. And she could do that over and over, keeping a whole battle line at that range and effectively picking apart the whole enemy fleet one ship at a time, and there was nothing that another navy could do to stop her.
It's unusual, that steam turbine was approved for warship use so quickly. After all, it was entirely new technology at the moment, so it's a bit of a mystery, how usually conservative admirals suddenly got so confident in that new engine.
HMS Dreadnought was such a game-changer that she gave her name to an entire type of warship, the dreadnought battleship. Strictly speaking, all the later battleships -- the Bismarcks and Warspites and Iowas and Yamatos -- were dreadnoughts, but after a while they stopped calling them that because nobody would waste time building non-dreadnoughts any more. But the name "dreadnought" still shows up a lot in sci-fi, because it is just so awesome and such a fitting name for a ship that can kick names and take ass better than anything else ...
@@ceu160193I suspect this had a lot to do with the experimental ship HMS Turbinia literally running rings around the rest of the British Royal Navy.
> invincible
the ship named invincible though, explosively detached her own name away from her
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Admiral Jackie Fisher and his speed obsession. He was also cleaning house at the Admiralty getting rid of dozens of old warships basically putting the navy in the position of "We have to make new warships because our usual warships are now obsolete and FISHER, STOP BUILDING! GOD DAMN IT! EVERYTHING'S OBSOLETE AGAIN! AAAAHHHHH!!!!"
He was well known for this as he had made a proposal for a warship called Nonsuch years before with a similar mission profile but was told no.
However the admiralty's prophecy that a naval arms race would be ruinous for the Empire ultimately proved correct
Thanks!
Interesting story. Can you tell me about Queen Mary as a troop carrier when she danced with a "Rogue Wave" in WW2 With 10,000 troops? How many troops were hurt or killed? She listed at about 45 to 50 degrees.
Cheers, Larry, B.C., Canada.
You should start doing more about battleships, this episode is actually outstanding. I've seen many Dreadnought videos and was not expecting to learn much new, but I did. Congratulations!
"Dread not, Admiral Brady. We have bested the German threat!"
And we have ordered extra replacement Lend-Lease binoculars for the Russian captains.
@@marckyle5895 ❤️😂
@@marckyle5895 Small weenered Yanks for you :)
_bested?_
Master and Commander, a damn fine film.
0:13 “Ladies and gentlemen I’m your friend Mike Brady from A.I Designs” 😂
"Bunga bunga?" I'm gonna remember that, Mike. 😂
Something that highly doubt would be funny in today's climate.
reminds me of a good friend who would never swear because of his religion, we used to call him 'flamin' Ralph, but Bunga would be ok too I suppose.
@@TerryHickey-xt4mf Really true on that and also those people behind the stunt wouldn't be done in our times considering all the stuff we have now vs back when this ship was made and racism wasn't a big deal along with colonialism.
In Italy it has a totally different meaning and came to be widespread after some antics of the now deceased Silvio Berlusconi.
@@Braun30 Guess not everyone got the joke.
A cracking documentary to watch from start to finish.
Thank you.
I would argue against calling battleships useless, yes they were eclipsed by the aircraft carrier as the queen of the chessboard but they still had their uses. They were indispensable as shore bombardment units and were lethal to Japanese aircraft as fast escorts for the fleet carriers with their 5"38's and 40MM cannons.
The Iowa class BB's were brought back for Korea, in the Vietnam War the New Jersey was brought back. "If it weren't for the Big J they'd have zapped our ass!" A quote I heard relayed by her Captain from that era.
They reactivated the whole class in the 1980's and it wasn't until the early 2000's the Wisconsin was struck from the navy list. There is nothing afloat today that can do what a battleship could do.
Having said all of that I want to thank you Mike for another great video. Cheers.👍
12:24 - Impressive middle name, indeed! We should get some flowers for Algernon!
The moustache is coming along well!
You can almost press it in.
Bunga, Bunga!
Slow and steady :)
I don't know the reason behind the moustache, but I don't like it. I think Mr. Brady looks like a goofy d-bag, which I know he is not. Sorry, sir.
@@johnandrews3568 "Bunga Bunga" - translate to English - Flowers.
I’m so glad you made a video on the dreadnought since it’s something I wanted to study these days.
Excellent video
One point about Dreadnought is the reliability of her steam turbines.
The old triple expansion engines could not be full at full speed for extended periods without the risk of something breaking, It's said that after a day of full speed steaming a ship would spend a week in harbor repairing it's engines. The steam turbine also caused far less vibration which aided gunnery.
Great video. The fire control system was an extraordinary step forward and must be one of the first examples of what is clearly what we would call a computer in everyday practical use.
Tiniest of corrections: The name didn't just mean "fear nothing," more fully it means "obey God and you may fear nothing else in this world."
"Fear God and Dread Nought Else!"
And yes the U.K. does have quite the knack for naming ships. ❤ Warspite
HMS Pansy!
@@Jack-he8jv and HMS Fifi.
it's my good friend Mike Brady - i cannot adequately express how thankful i am, not only that your content is engaging & informative, but also that you narrate it yourself - too much of what we see online these days has a computer-generated voice-over that doesn't quite speak english - thanks again for your wonderful work
The early obsolescence with new technology is not without peer. Aircraft had a similar development arc. Look at the TBD Devastator - utterly revolutionary when conceived, but the pace of development left it completely outclassed by the time it had to serve.
Yes! Our friend, Mike Brady did a video about the legendary beast. Thank you!
Another great video Mike!
Amazing, MC is the movies I've been watching this weekend, broken up over the days.. love to hate the thought of past lives ya know.. Cheers!
Mike, the story of Parsons and the Tubinia deserve a video of their own.
Your sense of humor, knowledge of the subject and that excellent 'accent'.....all make for a wonderful channel....BRAVO! "Master and Commander" is also one of my all-time favorite movies ( along with another of Mr. Crowe's movies...."Gladiator"). The life of being on one of those ships is done so marvelous..... no kidding, I've probably watched it over 50 times (!). Cindy 🐴.....from the Western North Carolina Mountains, USA.......
Now I need to know more about the Bunga Bunga Incident. Faking being random tourists is one thing, but faking a diplomatic delegation? Whoever was supposed to check their credentials probably had a very long and unpleasant meeting with his boss shortly thereafter…
What is known as an "interview without coffee" lol.
And now, we have Ford Class Aircraft carriers. The evolution of warships is quite fascinating. Thanks for explaining the Dreadnought and her place in that evolution. Nicely done, Mike Brady.
8:07 that sailor is helping by giving the other sailor a push with his leg to his arse :D
Naval tradition...
“Subject to the requirements of the King.”
Great, great movie!!
The English are great at naming!!
The HMS Thunderer is the BEST name for a war ship ever!!
Side note, the HMS Thunderchild is probably the most famous/successful ram ship EVER!!
Well, Thunderchild is entirely fictional, but yes. HMS Glowworm and HMS Unicorn are also personal favourites.p
I know it’s Fictional😁
That was the Joke. 😂
HMS Devastation is as good, and Thunderer and Devastation were the first major warships without a sail rig...
HMS Glorious: My name may have been Glorious but my life is not...
HMS Splendid is the most British name ever.😂
As always Mike a very interesting and informative presentation. Your animations of ships underway are simply stunning, well done mate.
It's a damned shame Dreadnought wasn't preserved as a museum ship. You'd think that since Japan was allowed to keep Mikasa as a museum ship under the Washington Naval Treaty, a similar exception could have been made for Dreadnought, but alas, it wasn't to be.
I love the story of all kinds of old ships. Mr. Brady tells these stories so we'll with a kind of awetisim of the period. The fact that he seems British makes him that much more authentic.
Sound Australian to me.
OMG This is amazing. Thank you Mike !!
One of your best videos. Thank you!
Thank you Mike!
I’m about halfway through Robert K. Massie’s “Dreadnought,” while watching this, pretty cool noticing references and understanding the context of the dreadnought
HMVS/HMCS Cerberus still exists in Port Phillip Bay in Australia, one of the first British turreted warships (Breastwork Monitor). She sailed under her own power from Britain to Victoria in Australia.
oh my! Its our friend Mike Brady from Oceanliner Designs, back with an epic video about a cool battleship!!
Great video Mike! But this is an unrelated question: have you heard that Titanic's chunk of the bow railing is gone?
Mmm yesss more please. Epic videos. Reminds me of my, merchant sailor, grandpa’s naval books.
He's Mike Brady and the reason why we became the Brady bunch....😊
My first name is Brady (I was named after Tom Brady) does that count?
An excellent, informative and well researched presentation, thank you.
One unfortunate aspect of Dreadnought’s design was the location of the main gunnery fire control station, located on the foremast directly behind the forward funnel, this meant that smoke from the funnel would obscure vision from the fire control station and the heat made it an incredibly uncomfortable place to be, this situation was rectified in the following design, H.M.S. Bellerophon and her sister ships, with the relocation of the fore mast to a position in front of the forward funnel.
From South Africa thanks, nicely narrated... very absorbing
While everyone got excited by the big guns, the turbine engines were the real revolution for a world patrolling navy. One huge advantage was full speed could be achieved for hours, where triple expansion engines could only exceed cruising speed for a few hours without needing repairs in dockyard later.
My great great grandfather was an RN stoker pre-WWI, and while stationed in the Far East, his wife died - until he arrived back, left alone, my great grandmother, Elizabeth, 12 at the time, took in washing, while younger brother, Charlie, supplemented their food with stuff that "fell off the back of a barrow" at Charlotte Street Market, and was a "Mudlark" for coppers down at the Camber. I grew up with these people into my teens, yet their story is like something out of Dickens (another Pompeyite). Incredible that the families of sailors (and the working class) lived like this at the height of Britain's power - what an indictment of social inequality!
You know a design is special when it is used to define every other design; After the introduction of Dreadnought, all battleships were either dreadnoughts themselves, if built after her, or pre-dreadnoughts, if they still had the old mixed main armament.
Likewise, even though USS Forrestal's name was not kept to describe modern angled-deck large carriers, the epithet that was used to describe her, "Supercarrier," was.
Queen Elizabeth started the standard of the fast battleship, effectively ending the need for cruisers.
Just a quick word to congratulate your work. High quality, clarity, good research, and perfect length. Bravo 👏👏👏
Always a plesure when you do videos of war ships, and ive always liked the look of ironclads and early battleships. Great visuals and story telling as usual
This was way more info on dreadnought I have ever heard, thank you
After serving on HMS Dreadnought for 6 years (the submarine) her motto is FEAR GOD and DREAD NOUGHT
I appreciate everything about your videos. Total pro.
odd place to put a lock. why not a door handle? 1:22
That's where he keeps Drachinifel
Brilliantly put together and narrated. I was hooked.
Japan and the United States actually started planning all big gun battleships before Britain. Dreadnought only won out because the American ship took longer to design and build and the Japanese design was scaled back due to financial concerns. But if either had succeeded we may have seen a world where nations proudly boasted about how many Satsumas or South Carolinas their navies possessed instead of Dreadnoughts.
Well, in both cases, those designs lacked Dreadnought's other critical innovations: speed due to steam turbines, and so on. Dreadnought was so impactful because it was a convergence of several new technologies, not just having all big guns. The speed that Dreadnought itself was built was also an implicit message about Britain's shipbuilding industry. In the time that it took for the US to build South Carolina, the British built Dreadnought plus four more dreadnoughts.
Wouldn't have been as cool a name though.
"We've got 100 Satsumas".
back in the mid-90s i got my hands on one of those old 70s-era Time-Life hardcover books, this one was 'The Dreadnoughts', it was a pretty detailed history of the lead up to the building of HMS dreadnought, post-dreadnought evolutions, fairly detailed overviews of the naval engagements in WW1 involving battleships, plus a pretty good bio on jacky fisher and smaller ones on other important players like von moltke, tirpitz, scheer, hipper, jellicoe, beatty. if one can find it (I imagine pretty hard to do these days) its well worth the purchase and read
Jokesters pretending to be foreign dignitaries touring a British battleship - - is certainly a prank to be remembered.😅
Terrific job & video our friend Mike Brady, this is a welcomed ship & time for ships & not one mention of Titanic which pleases me so. I look forward to more variety in ships & their legacies along with the men & women that made history with them.
*_UNOPPOSED UNDER CRIMSON SKIES_*
Immortalized, over time their legend will rise
And their foes can't believe their eyes
Believe their size, as they fall
And the dreadnoughts dread nothing at all
Should have been the HMS Insomethingable.
Just not "Insinkable"😅
The Royal Navy had whole classes of HMS In******ables, so many it started to get embarrassing.
Good evening from Canberra to our friend Mike & crew. ⚓ _Love this ship, I was an "Iron Duke" kid, thanks to Revell._
I never thought you would come out with a video like this! Dreadnoughts are some of my favorite warships! Can you do the HMS Victory or Warrior next, or maybe Gloire?
Those of us who have worked in military procurement can only marvel at Fisher's tenacity in driving his project, bringing together radical new technological and tactical concepts, from a doodle on a napkin to commissioning in just 3 years.
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Very entertaining and informative, enjoyed it emencely! Thanks for sharing...
@ 8:07 lol at that guy shoving the other bloke forward with a foot to the backside!
I wanted to say this also, but I see that my friend Sophocles13 did that already. It made me laugh until tears came :-) I don' know why :)
Great technical Navy history presentation! Thank you very much!
Love the military history. More please!
Well explained, interresting and beautiful pictures...
It's our friend Mike Brady! From Oceanliners Design!!! WITH A BATTLESHIP VIDEO!!!!
one of many, and I luv em!
1.) Great mustache! 2.) HMS Dreadnought may have only had one sunk Uboat to her credit, but it took out one of Germany's most capable and famous Uboat commanders, Otto Weddigen, who had sunk four British cruisers during his career (HMS Hawke, HMS Aboukir, HMS Hogue and HMS Cressy).
Wow!!
How interesting. Bungga, bungga
I was just thinking about this - great timing!
I've known the significance in the general design differences of the ship it's of course for quite a while. But I did appreciate the historical context fleshed out it added to my appreciation.
Great channel Mike. There is always lots to be learned from our past. Keep at it.
Excellent video! There are so many tangents that could spin off from here- the Russian Baltic Fleet's voyage of the damned to Tsushima, the incredibly wacky 1866 Battle of Lissa, and Jackie Fisher's final monstrous design, the never-built HMS *Incomparable*
A new Oceanliner Designs video! BUNGA BUNGA!
Been playing Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnaughts and for a strict ship v ship game, the technology changes are VERY noticable when going through the campaign. I find it funny that the same change in concept they had IRL is the same exact changes I did in game
New to the channel here. Absolutely loving the videos! Very informative, great narration and presentation.
One of the most interesting thing about the Dreadnought revolution is that, although she was a British ship, her existence massively undermined the dominant position of the Royal Navy. It sounds counterintuitive, but when a new design renders all previous designs obsolete, the entity with the largest stake in the old design stands to lose the most, and the Royal Navy had a LOT of pre-Dreadnought battleships that suddenly became outdated overnight.
Very well done. I really enjoyed the video, and most important, I understood the importance of the vessel.