In one word: yes. The better EVF and screen really improve the shooting experience. The AI allows for stickier and better AF + you forgot to mention face registration, which could be very helpful at, e.g. weddings. The only drawback for current A74 users - the price diff isn't really $1,400 because you'll get south of $2,000 for your used A74 so the "cost" to upgrade is higher than $1,400...
IMHO, I feel the a7iv is more of a creators camera with a great balance between photo & video. I don't think you're getting much more for the $; spend the $ on a new lens.* BTW, my gut tells me that Sony will upgrade the A1 soon (then sell the a7iv) and get that LOL
have been using the A7IV almost since it came out , very happy with the camera, just bought the A7RV so I can have a second body as backup for events and landscape , after trying for three weeks, I can say that the IQ I can get with either camera is not something that you could distinguish one from the other for practical use, I am returning the RV and will wait for the A7CII to use for travel and to pair with my small lenses to carry around town and minimize the weight ........that I think will make more sense for my use case ...the major benefit I saw from the RV was the EVF , is really nice and will miss it.....the tilty flippy screen, was OK, but found that I did not use as much a I thought I would've......the other benefit on RV is focus stacking in camera, great for macro .....the AF is an improvement, but, not worth extra 1,500...so, all in all, I think I fully agree with he conclusion on this video
Hi,,,did you see much improvements in the lcd screens? I have a IV and want to upgrade to RV just for that. The screen resolution is awful when you are zoomed at 100% while viewing a pic. My D750 had better resolution from Nikon days.
I personally don’t see the reason to upgrade. I’ve held and used the A7RV, it’s the same camera, with a few features that are better in edge cases. It felt like a 1.5 update to the A7IV. I’m keeping my A7IV.
@@benjhaisch I shoot mostly with a Tokina 85mm f1.8. People say that glass is the most important thing. Given this Chinese lens only cost me 230€, do you think it would give proper use to the A7RV high resolution?
Fantastic video Benj and also useful for someone using A7iii such as myself trying to decide which to upgrade to. One killer feature - if I understand the camera correctly - is that if you shoot in RAW(M), and then go crop mode, it bumps back up to the full resolution, and so you get a 26 MB file either way. This means that if you had a pair of these bodies with a 24 and a 50, you’d essentially have a set of 4 primes on you at all times.
I bought the A7RV to replace my A7iv but sold it after about 6 weeks. It was better in just about every way, but I couldn’t justify keeping both and the A7iv is more than enough for my needs. The only 2 things I didn’t like about the A7RV were the stupid lock button on the mode dial (which Benj is also annoyed by) and the awful sounding mechanical shutter (Kah-klunk). Other than that, images were stunning as was screen/EVF.
I did the same. Got the v (pre order) while i had the iv and was going to return the v but a photographer offered me 1k over msrp so sold it immediately
@@mycommentisinvalidbut9375 I sold both my A7RV and A7iv and now have a pair of A7C ii's. I much prefer the smaller form factor and am using them a lot more because of it. You really can't go wrong with any Sony camera nowadays.
Great comparison. I went ahead and upgraded to the A7R V from the IV, and as you clearly show the difference in IQ is truly non-existent. Will say the V is definitely the more refined camera in use, whether it's worth the extra money, especially with the IV going for near $2K used in my area is really playing with the law of diminishing returns.
Great review man. I admire how you look at it from a practical standpoint: technology isn't changing drastically, it's not game changing, manufacturers are finding ways to sell and repackage. Your current camera now will do more than good enough.
As a 50/50 hybrid shooter that works with professional athletes. The Sony a7 rV is a no brained for my professional work. It has INSANE video features and as you mentioned great photo features. The 1.2x crop of the 4k60 is way way way way way better than the 1.5x crop of the a7IV even if the video quality is marginally better on the a7IV
I'm interested to know your AF settings for sports. When shooting people running towards the camera with the A7iv and 70 200 GMii, I struggle to get properly focused pictures. My best results are with spot tracking at 6 FPS (70 %sharp).
@@MishaKaneXI have loved it so far. It’s been so great to have this camera because it’s a 10/10 photo camera and an 8/10 video camera and I’m only giving it a 8/10 is because the A7sIII has better lowlight dynamic range but it’s a way worse photo camera. So if the A7R5 is 80% as good as the a7sIII. That’s perfect for what I do and how I get paid
I just want the a7RV new multi flip screen implemented in all new Sony cameras. I know the side flip screen is popular but I can't let go of the normal tilt screen that is inline with the camera lens as a photographer.
I stepped up from an A7RIV to an A7RV, and I honestly love 1) the new menu and 2) the screen the most. Otherwise, it doesn't feel too different. The autofocus is nuts, but I didn't feel like the A7RIV (or even the A7RIII for that matter) constantly missed focus or left me frustrated with autofocus. But that screen is so helpful, and the new menu layout to match my A7SIII is wonderful. Worth the upgrade in my opinion!
Dave if you watch Taylor Jackson or Manny Ortiz reviews they mentioned the auto white balance being actually usable on the A7R5. Taylor also mentioned the auto iso for exposure also being superior to the A74. There is actually video out there showing run and gun scenarios with A7R5 - changing lights exposure etc, that shows how good this is. This is massive for me as I currently shoot high speed social media content, I have to act quick or I miss the clip.
I am first a hobbyist and second a stills photographer. I went A7rii in '17 having also my '14 A7s. Resolution is more or less in prints and unless you look at a photo with a magnifying glass then you may see a difference . As a tool for images I will never sell my A7rii, why you may ask? A little unknown is the on camera playmemories apps and the main one is the "Digital Filter". When I got the A7s I discovered Milky Way images in '15 and I never went to a dark dark place but just coastal beaches with very dark skies but lit brightly for cities. What the digital app does is it captures a sky and foreground separately with any setting you can think of like WB along with about 10+ other settings. It performs in camera and gives a raw or jpeg output that can be adjusted before sending to the SD card. As far as MW's you can capture over a lit city where everyone will think you PS'ed it. This is a main reason to forever keep a M1 or M2 model Sony. A A7rii is very sharp and great. A friend sold me his A7RIV when he upgraded to the A7RV it was also great but when I saw all the unsaid thing I sold it and got the A7RV. One was the focus stacking still needed PS to merge all. Another I found out after getting was noise of a A7S, A7Siii and the A7RV were the same at 200%. To me the A7RV is like a lazy photographer's camera with the AF stuff, but a one and done camera for whatever you can think about to capture. Video is a generational thing so be happy you get that too. The only to add is the "Digital Filter" app so you do not have to carry a lot of filters and holders around. One thing about this review is the ISO test, Sony cameras from M2 and up have ISO Invariance meaning you can shoot say at 640 and in post increase exposure and get less noise meaning also no flash needed at the party, heh it is a lit room is it not! I have never needed a flash from the beginning '14. And if you ever have used the two level auto mode you would not have to also well there is is a flash mode for night portraits where you can use a flash! There is a 900 page book about all you can do with the A7RV even with video. Study before that first shot, like formating you now can do a complete format just by pressing the trash can before on your cameras was a fast format leading to confliction of some images, so why has not Sony done a update to all cameras? It is the little things that make a great camera and great photographer.
I don't know what to buy for astrophotography and landscapes, I read that the a7iv is better in low light, lower ISO, and the 7 R IV eats stars, but more Megapixels will be better for landscapes, and I actually don't know which one to choose
I think you are spot on with the a7iv. That would be a fantastic camera. I “downgraded” from an a7riv because of the noise and file management, as well as gaining the new menu and better preset dial, but would like to see the a7iv sensor in the a7rv body.
The noise is because of the larger pixel count, if you scale down a 6400 ISO image from the RV to match the A7IV resolution the noise will be almost the same.
I went from iv to the riv because i can tell the difference with picture quality and dont really regret but my only complaint is the riv has the old menu system. But i am taking pictures first before video.
Good video mate! I already have a A7RV and loving it. I use it as a hybrid camera mainly for events( Shoot both Photos and small bit videos). I am thinking for a second body now, not sure whether to go with another A7R5 or A74. On the second body, I am planning to put 50 1.4. Can you please suggest amongst the two? I am not sure how the handheld stabilization will be with A74 and 50 1.4 GM.
I got a 2nd job a few months ago and because the money wasn't an issue anymore I just went went the A7RV. I still own the A7III, but the upgrade is pretty amazing. I like the LCD screen and better color science the most, with the faster and stickier AF as a close 2nd. Oh and the resolution is insane as well, great for cropping.
I'm still using A77M2 and A99M2. I'm considering moving to mirrorless and A7IV and A7RV/A7RIV. One important feature to me is that A74 does not have a sync port for using with studio lighting but A7R5 (and presume A7R4) does have sync port. Also I shoot mostly wildlife and landscape so the extra MPs allows considerable cropping. Do you ever shoot wildlife or landscape?
I have A7RIV for almost 2 years now, just did not see the need to spend the money on A7RV, I know there is some upgrade like LCD fully articulate screen, better viewfinder, better autofocus, better video features etc. But with the same sensor I don't think there is a major upgrade in IQ to worth of an upgrade so I went along with Fujifilm GFX100S. I can definitely see the IQ improvement on MF over the full frame Sony.
Question. I am having the hardest time deciding what camera to upgrade to, bc theres 3 options I am looking at. I currently run a A7Rii set up with a Tamron 28-75. I am a hybrid shooter. I am currently looking at the A1, 7IV, or 7RV. I am currently working in sports daily. What would you suggest, as I would be upgrading from the A7Rii.
Im buying a A7R5 with the Tamron 20 - 40. Reasons in order of importance: Rear screen - design - quality. Improved auto wb Improved auto iso 26mp crop (makes the 40 a 60mm) L M R raw settings Improved EVF Improved stabalisation New menu design Improved AF not big but its there) PS: the difference between both cameras here in the UK on the grey market is £1000.
The A7RV medium raw files lack the dynamic range that the Large or Uncompressed files have. I own the A7RV and the A7IV and Im going to sell the A7R5 due to the loss in dynamic range and the poor performance in high iso performance. Just gonna get another A7IV. I wish Sony would make an A7IVa with the updated flip screen, and EVF on the A7RV. It would definitely be a game changer, but I guess I'll just wait for the next camera that comes out. I wish Sony still had a 24 mp camera with the body of the A7IV
What type of shooting do you do that the noise in high ISO became a problem? I own the A7IV and love it, but just picked up an A7RV for too cheap and I’m debating which to sell and which to keep
Very good comparison, and I agree, that image quality should always come first. In that respect, they are very similar. As an architectural photographer, the resolution bump can be useful for me, though most of my clients, don't actually want or need it. The rear screen is a big part of the reason I just ordered an A7RV to replace my A7IV. I often need to back my camera into tight spaces to get more in the frame and this is a big plus. The autofocus upgrades, though impressive, would make more sense in a faster camera, like the A1. It's great for the new A9III. On using the cameras together, I think that would be good, but after years of using multiple Sony bodies I find it is rare that the menus of two different models can be set up exactly the same way. This is something that really helps workflow. You didn't touch on the new menus of the A7RV but I think they are likely to be a decent upgrade for most users too. I have the new V2 menus on my A1 and they are great to work with. I suspect the A7RV and A1 will be a closer match than the A7IV and A1, when it comes to menus. Now, if they added the A7RV updates to the A1, that would be a killer camera! I'll sell a kidney for that one.
Hi, great review. Please tell me, I want to change canon 5 d m 3 to Sony. I want to spend on a good camera, for a long time. Is it worth spending more money on Sony a7r 5?
Awesome review this was super helpful as I am a concert photographer and I use the asr7iv was thinking of upgrading to the new one but If I'm not gaining anything really in the dynamic range what a saver
A7RV is like a Lexis car. Very nice luxury experience with extra bells/whistle & comfort. For those with deeper pockets. A7IV is like a Honda, it gets the job done, and best value.
@@AdrienWilliams-ot5zb Suppose it would be if staying in the same corporation. Honda -> Acura or Toyota -> Lexus. In my area mostly see Honda, Lexus or BMW. Then sprinkle in some Tesla.
I like my a7iv for regular/wide and portraits. I like my a6600 with Tamron 70-180 for wildlife with reach while maintaining pixel density. Or a6600 as a small setup with a walkabout prime.
HI i’m new to film photography and i want to buy a camera that’s got really clear images, good quality images, suitable for portraits as well as going on trips with friends etc what do you suggest?
The -3F focusing capabilities would be a pain in the ass given its price. I’m on A7R 1 saving for A7 IV. It lacks a lil bit of resolution but totally worth it for its great capabilities in low light situations
Can you please explain why you compare a7r iv 32.7 MP to a7r v 60.2 MP. Why not 60MP against 60MP. Dont they both have the same sensor size. Did I miss something here???
Great video Benj! I feel since you have the FX3 and A7IV you could just get a discounted A7RIV. It’s the same sensor and I don’t know if you really need train and plane autofocus for $4k. A.I. autofocus didn’t really sell me to be honest.
Its not just the autofocus, the colors science in the A7RV was drastically improved as well as the Auto White Balance. I picked up the Sony A7RV. Its an absolute beast of a photography camera and the video is really solid too. It also out puts RAW ProRes video so you can now get the most out of your Atomos Ninja V opposed to the A7IV that does not. Then theres the back screen and the Crispy ass EVF.
Hi , Is the Full frame Xtra fine 26 MP JPEG also benefitting in Low light on A7R5 compared to 61 MP JPEG. Can u suggest on it . i am basically a JPEG shooter and confused between buying a74 and a7r5 , i have good budget for a7r5 and will pull the plug for it , if 26 MP JPEG is also benefitting in low light. You can shoot in 61MP in good lighning for extra detail and resolution on A7R5 and switch to 26 MP for low light benefits if light goes down. i have seen and read that medium RAW benefit s in low light , but so should 26 MP jpeg too , just wanted to confirm with you on it . Thank you.
i don't understand this review. the two cameras differ mostly in resolution, i would have thought the only thing people would be interested in is to see a heavily cropped and zoomed comparison, that would show whether you get more detail with the A7RV and how much more, but you didn't do a single such comparison. my only reason for considering to upgrade to a7rv is because i would want to be able to crop in more, sort of like a replacement for getting a longer lens. but this video did not answer that question. otherwise a very good video, i am just surprised that the only question i thought most people would have about this comparison, was not answered.
@@benjhaisch yes i watched the entire video (and again thank you btw, still a good and interesting video). what i would have wished around 7:54 is way closer zoom. you quickly say "obviously you can see a huge difference in resolution" but first of all at that point both images are zoomed to different sizes so it's hard to compare exact details, and they both still look crisp and detailed enough, at least at my 27" 4k monitor. I would have wanted a much closer zoom with both images equally zoomed in. and maybe for many different images. just to answer the question "if i take a photo with the A7RV, how much more will i be to crop while still maintaining good enough detail?". i know maybe i come off as arrogant talking about what "I" wanted to see, but I would have thought this was the only thing people would want to compare, since all the other things (such as dynamic range) are obviously going to be similar and amazing in both cameras.
@@benjhaischah now i understand. took me a second to realize that cropping 100% on each is basically the most amount of zoom you can do without starting to see resolution artifacts, and hence gives a good idea of how much "closer" you can get to the subject. at first i even missed that both were 100% crop and i didn't understand why you would show them both with different subject size. so i am sorry about that. however, i still think it would have been valuable to see even more zoomed, with both subjects equal size; a side-by-side where you can see exactly how much more detail the A7RV has. so in summary, what you show at 7:58 is actually exactly what i was looking for, how much "closer" i can get to the subject, but it in a way does not show how much more detail you get, but maybe that's not actually of interest in that sense. i admit when i am at fault, and thanks for clearing it up!
I did some testing on the Medium Raw of the A7RV, it loses a ton of highlight dynamic range vs the Large Raw. They are both supposed to be lossless so I wonder if this is a bug, have you tested that?
@@benjhaisch frankly 10 images per second is more than enough for me, I wanted to be on its autofcus, I want to avoid the A9 II OR III FOR THE PRICE plus the a7RV is also good for landscape
Is there a reason you used a GM on A7RV and a contemporary lens on A7IV in those couple of instances? Totally not fair and even then, the A7IV did better. Sony Diddy needs to try harder
@@benjhaisch first, I think your content is great. Second, your caption says “A7RV vs A7IV” sensor isn’t mentioned. Maybe work on that part so I know before I click the bait. Third, did you think anyone wouldn’t notice the discrepancy/difference? If you’re gonna compare, be consistent and fair with the comparison. All I’m sayin. We can disagree on things right?
Feel free to message me on IG or something, I honestly am trying to figure out how I was trying to pull one over on anyone. Would love to continue the dialogue to better understand and possibly avoid what it is you’re concerned about in the future.
I don’t do near as much work as you, but I got into Sony with the A7RV. I then picked up an A7IV, per your recommendation. They pair together very nicely!
If you are shooting for the pure joy of photography the A7IV is brilliant and now at 2700 dollars Canadian affordable. If you are a working photographer buy the A7R V...I have the Sony A7S III...its a great camera...but I spent too much.
Let’s get away from pixel peeping and go back to shooting creative. Just think, 15years ago there were photographers taking amazing photos….. Btw. Absolutely amazing Review!
I'm at 0:26 on ur 14:33 minute video, I can already give u the answer. Really don't need to watch the rest. Of course the upgrade--to the five thousand dollar camera, the Sony a7rV is worth it. Even though the a7iv cost half the price, it has twice the headaches, called OVERHEATING. So a Koooolllll camera is worth every dollar, every penny more that it might cost. Question Answered>Question Done. Now to kick back and enjoy the rest of ur video. 😎😎
Overheat is not serious on A7IV. I can shot 10 hours continuously under 4K 24P under A7IV. I face overheating problem only when I want to shoot long hours of 4K 60P
The amount of noise you're getting at ISO 100 when zoomed in on the A7RV is ridiculous. I've seen tons of other close-up shots and none display the amount of noise that your pics do.
I've had an A7IV since pretty much day-one, and wanted a second camera to replace my aging A7III. I went with the A7RV instead of a second a7IV. For a moment I considered replacing the A7IV with another A7RV, but my wallet keeps telling me that I can't right now. :(
Thank you, l appreciate seeing the comparison. I do find it less helpful when you don’t compare like crops. While zooming in it is obvious that you zoomed in more on the right image R5. Obviously you will see more grain and a less sharpness. The views were very similar until zooming in. Forgive me if I’m missing something, but it seems to take a lot of value out of the otherwise terrific video you obviously worked very hard on. The other thing that confuses me is comparing color without mentioning profiling. Thank you for a very nice video that could have been great. IMHO
No, Neither has fast enough processor (due to high megapixel) giving you Bad rolling shutter. Keep your A74, Sell your A7r5 and buy A7siii that way you have both high megapixel (A74), and a low light monster (A7s3 with low rolling shutter). Apsc is not worth it. too noisy even on FX3. or save your money and wait for the next CPU generation that will eliminate rolling shutter (due 2024 or 2025).
Already have an FX3. Bought an A7RV and ended up selling my A7IV for an A7CR. FX3 does everything I need for video and the same sensor on the A7RV/A7CR is really nice.
@@benjhaisch 1,230,000 dots. Have you owned the A7II? Huge upgrade Im sure on either of these 2. Im wondering if I should wait for the A7V or just get the A7RV now. Will I like the A7RV more than the A7V? Haha What are your thoughts? Thanks!
*need??? Only three But as someone inspired by trying out new things and using random other gear as part of my job. I’m fine with having lots of options :)
for me total winner on 100% is a7 iv because i need image quality and there i see total nightmare noise on a7r v photos what for me is worst than nightmare !!! i do correct choise when order a7 iv
I own the a7iv I think at the very least they could reduce the 4K 60 crop to like 1.2x 1.3x or 1.4x instead of 1.5x they did a smaller crop for the a7rv so I don’t see why they couldn’t reduce on the a7iv it’s the very least they could do to help them and there customers or maybe remove or make a mark 2 I reckon if we work together they will have to listen and make a change and with your large platform and influence would really help if you could spread the idea around thx
@@Sidowse I expect more as a customer and so should you we should stand up for ourselves this is just about money they could of put a better sensor and even just a less crop or just no crop there just making excuses
@@Sidowse the a1 is number 1 camera anyone could get but it doesn't have a flip screen. The RV is pretty much an all around camera and the things it can do many people won't really need.
@@Sidowse I don't. That's why I said 'many'. The majority of people on RUclips are not professional cameramen. Even if they are its less likely they need say 4k120fps or a really fast a1/a9 sensor. Only a small percentage of people absolutely need those features generally speaking.
I dont think its fair to talk about these cameras and NOT talk about video. for that reason, you get a dislike (considering we are watching this in video and not reading it with photos)
haha! it's funny because every single video I get fed only talks about video. As a wedding photographer, that's why I focused on the photography aspects.
@grassrootsphotographysean4474 I mean, I get it. The A1 is amazing, but also this isn’t a video about that camera and frankly 90% of people I know who own it would probably be better off with the A7RV anyway ;)
So tired of seeing reviews that demo side by side photos and the reviewer doesn’t take the extra effort to manually adjust the photo that seems zoomed out to match the higher resolution’d camera. You went the mile to publish this, go the inch for the comparison JUST DO IT!!@10:39 equal them out in size and let’s see FFS!!!!!!
You know what’s funny, is the last time I did that people complained that I wasn’t giving the higher resolution camera credit for having more detail hahaha. You just can’t win sometimes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@benjhaisch OMG MAN. In that case target both audience types? All that would have taken is an extra 2 seconds in your time line per comparison photo. One version for 1 type and the next clip to compare LIKE for LIKE. Bam! 2 types of ppl satisfied. Then Let’s get you a flippin coffee mug that says best reviewer ever!
oh shoot, did I say that? what I meant if so was that the A7IV is the entry level of the “pro” cameras although the market usually considers them to be “prosumer” cameras.
@@benjhaisch sony a7III is better than canon 5d mark iv, and that was a pro camera...and so many other cameras...a camera is pro in the hands of a good photographer, not because of the price and features...but definitely a7iv is not a entry level camera just because is accessible to the mass, 2500 us dollars is 2 years a work for some people, to put aside the money to buy it...for them is the holly grail...and A7rV....Concorde, price wise
It is technically sonys entry level full-frame camera. And is marketed as a pro-sumer camera, rather than a professional camera. What a time to be alive.
@@idreaminsurfgreen5327 what a time to be alive when a7r5 is gonna be old, and the same features you find in a 2500 camera... Than you will understand... Don't be fulled, what a time to live in Europe...
In my opinion, Sony makes the most unaesthetic cameras among all the competitors. Even though they might be insanely good, the camera would not motivate me to shoot with it. That's why I don't like Sony content :( I think Canon, Leica, Fujifilm and Hasselblad much more interesting :)
So you came here to a video about Sony cameras to say you don't like Sony content? And also that you wouldn't use the best tool available because you don't like the way it looks?
@@aboynamedjamil I've been following Benj for a while and I'm interested in all cameras. But Sony cameras are just so ugly 😂 I mean look at the Leica and then a Sony. I don't think it's pretty at all. And I think the appearance of the camera is of course not a main reason, but I love the feeling of holding a camera in my hand that I just like and does not look too technical and modern.
Haha, yeah I mean I don't disagree with you. That's why I use Sony & Leica/Hasselblad/Fujifilm together :) Would have stayed at Canon but.... ruclips.net/video/QX4UBNoyawc/видео.html ;)
Hi, great review. Please tell me, I want to change canon 5 d m 3 to Sony. I want to spend on a good camera, for a long time. Is it worth spending more money on Sony a7r 5?
Should I buy another A7IV or grab an A7RV for my photo kit?
In one word: yes. The better EVF and screen really improve the shooting experience. The AI allows for stickier and better AF + you forgot to mention face registration, which could be very helpful at, e.g. weddings. The only drawback for current A74 users - the price diff isn't really $1,400 because you'll get south of $2,000 for your used A74 so the "cost" to upgrade is higher than $1,400...
IMHO, I feel the a7iv is more of a creators camera with a great balance between photo & video. I don't think you're getting much more for the $; spend the $ on a new lens.* BTW, my gut tells me that Sony will upgrade the A1 soon (then sell the a7iv) and get that LOL
@@stkuj if you're only using them for photo what if any would be the advantage of the a1? the zero blackout? And if that's the case, why not an a9iii?
@@stkuj the A1 is amazing, but far out of the $$$$$ range for me
@@stkuj When do you think the new A1 is due?
I'm so glad that I found this level of quality content. Thanks for your efforts Benj. You're so underrated!
I appreciate that!
have been using the A7IV almost since it came out , very happy with the camera, just bought the A7RV so I can have a second body as backup for events and landscape , after trying for three weeks, I can say that the IQ I can get with either camera is not something that you could distinguish one from the other for practical use, I am returning the RV and will wait for the A7CII to use for travel and to pair with my small lenses to carry around town and minimize the weight ........that I think will make more sense for my use case ...the major benefit I saw from the RV was the EVF , is really nice and will miss it.....the tilty flippy screen, was OK, but found that I did not use as much a I thought I would've......the other benefit on RV is focus stacking in camera, great for macro .....the AF is an improvement, but, not worth extra 1,500...so, all in all, I think I fully agree with he conclusion on this video
Hi,,,did you see much improvements in the lcd screens? I have a IV and want to upgrade to RV just for that. The screen resolution is awful when you are zoomed at 100% while viewing a pic. My D750 had better resolution from Nikon days.
I personally don’t see the reason to upgrade. I’ve held and used the A7RV, it’s the same camera, with a few features that are better in edge cases. It felt like a 1.5 update to the A7IV. I’m keeping my A7IV.
Would you recommend the A7RV to someone that still uses the first A7R
@aspilobo oh man, that’d be an exponential upgrade
@@benjhaisch I shoot mostly with a Tokina 85mm f1.8. People say that glass is the most important thing. Given this Chinese lens only cost me 230€, do you think it would give proper use to the A7RV high resolution?
@@aspilobo I have no idea but a more economical decision might just be to get an A7IV and invest in more glass
Pixels exactly the same, dynamic range exactly the same... I will stick with my IV as I see no point for myself to upgrade at all!
Fantastic video Benj and also useful for someone using A7iii such as myself trying to decide which to upgrade to.
One killer feature - if I understand the camera correctly - is that if you shoot in RAW(M), and then go crop mode, it bumps back up to the full resolution, and so you get a 26 MB file either way. This means that if you had a pair of these bodies with a 24 and a 50, you’d essentially have a set of 4 primes on you at all times.
You saying exactly my thoughts to upgrade my a7c to a7iv. I got one just need to make it dual. Wedding photographer here.
How it with you bro? İs it right about overheat?? @@MrGmoex
What did you end up buying? I also want to upgrade now from a7iii 😅
@@sulivanskasame here, I think price has come down. For 3k, I think it’s a no brainer to upgrade to this instead of the A7iv
I bought the A7RV to replace my A7iv but sold it after about 6 weeks. It was better in just about every way, but I couldn’t justify keeping both and the A7iv is more than enough for my needs. The only 2 things I didn’t like about the A7RV were the stupid lock button on the mode dial (which Benj is also annoyed by) and the awful sounding mechanical shutter (Kah-klunk). Other than that, images were stunning as was screen/EVF.
I did the same. Got the v (pre order) while i had the iv and was going to return the v but a photographer offered me 1k over msrp so sold it immediately
What you have now a7iv the beast one?
Which one did you get rid of at7r5 or a7iv
@@mycommentisinvalidbut9375 I sold both my A7RV and A7iv and now have a pair of A7C ii's. I much prefer the smaller form factor and am using them a lot more because of it. You really can't go wrong with any Sony camera nowadays.
i just brought the a7 iv last week. The small diferences between the 2 wasn't enough to justify me paying 1000+ dollars more.
Great comparison. I went ahead and upgraded to the A7R V from the IV, and as you clearly show the difference in IQ is truly non-existent. Will say the V is definitely the more refined camera in use, whether it's worth the extra money, especially with the IV going for near $2K used in my area is really playing with the law of diminishing returns.
Great review man. I admire how you look at it from a practical standpoint: technology isn't changing drastically, it's not game changing, manufacturers are finding ways to sell and repackage. Your current camera now will do more than good enough.
As a 50/50 hybrid shooter that works with professional athletes. The Sony a7 rV is a no brained for my professional work. It has INSANE video features and as you mentioned great photo features.
The 1.2x crop of the 4k60 is way way way way way better than the 1.5x crop of the a7IV even if the video quality is marginally better on the a7IV
I'm interested to know your AF settings for sports. When shooting people running towards the camera with the A7iv and 70 200 GMii, I struggle to get properly focused pictures. My best results are with spot tracking at 6 FPS (70 %sharp).
Curious to know how the A7R5 has held up for you as a hybrid. I have an A7iV and just picked up the R5 for cheap so I’m contemplating selling one
@@MishaKaneXI have loved it so far. It’s been so great to have this camera because it’s a 10/10 photo camera and an 8/10 video camera and I’m only giving it a 8/10 is because the A7sIII has better lowlight dynamic range but it’s a way worse photo camera.
So if the A7R5 is 80% as good as the a7sIII. That’s perfect for what I do and how I get paid
I just want the a7RV new multi flip screen implemented in all new Sony cameras. I know the side flip screen is popular but I can't let go of the normal tilt screen that is inline with the camera lens as a photographer.
I stepped up from an A7RIV to an A7RV, and I honestly love 1) the new menu and 2) the screen the most. Otherwise, it doesn't feel too different. The autofocus is nuts, but I didn't feel like the A7RIV (or even the A7RIII for that matter) constantly missed focus or left me frustrated with autofocus. But that screen is so helpful, and the new menu layout to match my A7SIII is wonderful. Worth the upgrade in my opinion!
Dave if you watch Taylor Jackson or Manny Ortiz reviews they mentioned the auto white balance being actually usable on the A7R5. Taylor also mentioned the auto iso for exposure also being superior to the A74. There is actually video out there showing run and gun scenarios with A7R5 - changing lights exposure etc, that shows how good this is. This is massive for me as I currently shoot high speed social media content, I have to act quick or I miss the clip.
@@markshirley01 that’s awesome. I never shoot AWB, but it’s good to know it’s useable! If I’m doing more run and gun, I’m typically using my Q2.
Is the colour much better ?
@@gurugamer8632 more accurate lees yellow tint - watch Manny Ortiz and Taylor Jackson
My a7riii hunts for focus while videoing on a tripod, which is extremely frustrating. I don’t get that on the a7iv
I am first a hobbyist and second a stills photographer. I went A7rii in '17 having also my '14 A7s. Resolution is more or less in prints and unless you look at a photo with a magnifying glass then you may see a difference . As a tool for images I will never sell my A7rii, why you may ask? A little unknown is the on camera playmemories apps and the main one is the "Digital Filter". When I got the A7s I discovered Milky Way images in '15 and I never went to a dark dark place but just coastal beaches with very dark skies but lit brightly for cities. What the digital app does is it captures a sky and foreground separately with any setting you can think of like WB along with about 10+ other settings. It performs in camera and gives a raw or jpeg output that can be adjusted before sending to the SD card. As far as MW's you can capture over a lit city where everyone will think you PS'ed it. This is a main reason to forever keep a M1 or M2 model Sony. A A7rii is very sharp and great. A friend sold me his A7RIV when he upgraded to the A7RV it was also great but when I saw all the unsaid thing I sold it and got the A7RV. One was the focus stacking still needed PS to merge all. Another I found out after getting was noise of a A7S, A7Siii and the A7RV were the same at 200%. To me the A7RV is like a lazy photographer's camera with the AF stuff, but a one and done camera for whatever you can think about to capture. Video is a generational thing so be happy you get that too. The only to add is the "Digital Filter" app so you do not have to carry a lot of filters and holders around. One thing about this review is the ISO test, Sony cameras from M2 and up have ISO Invariance meaning you can shoot say at 640 and in post increase exposure and get less noise meaning also no flash needed at the party, heh it is a lit room is it not! I have never needed a flash from the beginning '14. And if you ever have used the two level auto mode you would not have to also well there is is a flash mode for night portraits where you can use a flash! There is a 900 page book about all you can do with the A7RV even with video. Study before that first shot, like formating you now can do a complete format just by pressing the trash can before on your cameras was a fast format leading to confliction of some images, so why has not Sony done a update to all cameras? It is the little things that make a great camera and great photographer.
I don't know what to buy for astrophotography and landscapes, I read that the a7iv is better in low light, lower ISO, and the 7 R IV eats stars, but more Megapixels will be better for landscapes, and I actually don't know which one to choose
I think you are spot on with the a7iv. That would be a fantastic camera. I “downgraded” from an a7riv because of the noise and file management, as well as gaining the new menu and better preset dial, but would like to see the a7iv sensor in the a7rv body.
The noise is because of the larger pixel count, if you scale down a 6400 ISO image from the RV to match the A7IV resolution the noise will be almost the same.
I went from iv to the riv because i can tell the difference with picture quality and dont really regret but my only complaint is the riv has the old menu system. But i am taking pictures first before video.
Thank you so much Benj for the very informative and useful comparison video! God bless and good luck!
Good video mate! I already have a A7RV and loving it. I use it as a hybrid camera mainly for events( Shoot both Photos and small bit videos). I am thinking for a second body now, not sure whether to go with another A7R5 or A74. On the second body, I am planning to put 50 1.4. Can you please suggest amongst the two? I am not sure how the handheld stabilization will be with A74 and 50 1.4 GM.
I got a 2nd job a few months ago and because the money wasn't an issue anymore I just went went the A7RV. I still own the A7III, but the upgrade is pretty amazing. I like the LCD screen and better color science the most, with the faster and stickier AF as a close 2nd. Oh and the resolution is insane as well, great for cropping.
Great review! How does the video compare?
I'm still using A77M2 and A99M2. I'm considering moving to mirrorless and A7IV and A7RV/A7RIV. One important feature to me is that A74 does not have a sync port for using with studio lighting but A7R5 (and presume A7R4) does have sync port. Also I shoot mostly wildlife and landscape so the extra MPs allows considerable cropping. Do you ever shoot wildlife or landscape?
I have A7RIV for almost 2 years now, just did not see the need to spend the money on A7RV, I know there is some upgrade like LCD fully articulate screen, better viewfinder, better autofocus, better video features etc. But with the same sensor I don't think there is a major upgrade in IQ to worth of an upgrade so I went along with Fujifilm GFX100S. I can definitely see the IQ improvement on MF over the full frame Sony.
Question. I am having the hardest time deciding what camera to upgrade to, bc theres 3 options I am looking at. I currently run a A7Rii set up with a Tamron 28-75. I am a hybrid shooter. I am currently looking at the A1, 7IV, or 7RV. I am currently working in sports daily. What would you suggest, as I would be upgrading from the A7Rii.
What did you settle on? I'm also on the a7R II and am bouncing back and forth between the a7 IV and the a7R V too.
If it really were a $1400 upgrade I would actually consider it. In the Netherlands it's more like $2200 USD more, $5.000,- total.
Im buying a A7R5 with the Tamron 20 - 40.
Reasons in order of importance:
Rear screen - design - quality.
Improved auto wb
Improved auto iso
26mp crop (makes the 40 a 60mm)
L M R raw settings
Improved EVF
Improved stabalisation
New menu design
Improved AF not big but its there)
PS: the difference between both cameras here in the UK on the grey market is £1000.
For low light photography: better quality with a7IV or with a7RV shooting in mRAW?
The A7RV medium raw files lack the dynamic range that the Large or Uncompressed files have. I own the A7RV and the A7IV and Im going to sell the A7R5 due to the loss in dynamic range and the poor performance in high iso performance. Just gonna get another A7IV. I wish Sony would make an A7IVa with the updated flip screen, and EVF on the A7RV. It would definitely be a game changer, but I guess I'll just wait for the next camera that comes out. I wish Sony still had a 24 mp camera with the body of the A7IV
What type of shooting do you do that the noise in high ISO became a problem?
I own the A7IV and love it, but just picked up an A7RV for too cheap and I’m debating which to sell and which to keep
Very good comparison, and I agree, that image quality should always come first. In that respect, they are very similar. As an architectural photographer, the resolution bump can be useful for me, though most of my clients, don't actually want or need it. The rear screen is a big part of the reason I just ordered an A7RV to replace my A7IV. I often need to back my camera into tight spaces to get more in the frame and this is a big plus. The autofocus upgrades, though impressive, would make more sense in a faster camera, like the A1. It's great for the new A9III.
On using the cameras together, I think that would be good, but after years of using multiple Sony bodies I find it is rare that the menus of two different models can be set up exactly the same way. This is something that really helps workflow. You didn't touch on the new menus of the A7RV but I think they are likely to be a decent upgrade for most users too. I have the new V2 menus on my A1 and they are great to work with. I suspect the A7RV and A1 will be a closer match than the A7IV and A1, when it comes to menus. Now, if they added the A7RV updates to the A1, that would be a killer camera! I'll sell a kidney for that one.
Hi, great review. Please tell me, I want to change canon 5 d m 3 to Sony. I want to spend on a good camera, for a long time. Is it worth spending more money on Sony a7r 5?
How is the Sony a7iV (4) in some photos that you preview having less noise than the a7RV? While the a7RV is 61 MP, it's double that of the a7iV.
A7RV - does it do 4K continous recording in camera without cropping?
Awesome review this was super helpful as I am a concert photographer and I use the asr7iv was thinking of upgrading to the new one but If I'm not gaining anything really in the dynamic range what a saver
A7RV is like a Lexis car. Very nice luxury experience with extra bells/whistle & comfort. For those with deeper pockets.
A7IV is like a Honda, it gets the job done, and best value.
Acura would be a far better comparison.
@@AdrienWilliams-ot5zb Suppose it would be if staying in the same corporation. Honda -> Acura or Toyota -> Lexus.
In my area mostly see Honda, Lexus or BMW. Then sprinkle in some Tesla.
I drive a Jag
@@yirimezgit sorry to hear that.
A7iv good for photo and video ? Or should a budget non pro go fx30 and get another body?
Excellent video, thank you!
I like my a7iv for regular/wide and portraits. I like my a6600 with Tamron 70-180 for wildlife with reach while maintaining pixel density. Or a6600 as a small setup with a walkabout prime.
HI i’m new to film photography and i want to buy a camera
that’s got really clear images, good quality images, suitable for portraits as well as going on trips with friends etc
what do you suggest?
Which one did you go for stefan
Main reason I like the A7RIV is the tilt screen. Sony would be smart to put that tilt/flip screen on all their cameras to appeal to everyone.
100%
Would you recommend the A7R V coming from an A7iii? Are tbe larger files of the A7R V really that much of a pain
The -3F focusing capabilities would be a pain in the ass given its price. I’m on A7R 1 saving for A7 IV. It lacks a lil bit of resolution but totally worth it for its great capabilities in low light situations
Can you please explain why you compare a7r iv 32.7 MP to a7r v 60.2 MP.
Why not 60MP against 60MP. Dont they both have the same sensor size.
Did I miss something here???
I’m comparing the A7IV to the A7RV
Great video Benj! I feel since you have the FX3 and A7IV you could just get a discounted A7RIV. It’s the same sensor and I don’t know if you really need train and plane autofocus for $4k. A.I. autofocus didn’t really sell me to be honest.
I just wouldn't want to go backwards in the eco system with the old menus and such, but that's just my personal preference.
Its not just the autofocus, the colors science in the A7RV was drastically improved as well as the Auto White Balance. I picked up the Sony A7RV. Its an absolute beast of a photography camera and the video is really solid too. It also out puts RAW ProRes video so you can now get the most out of your Atomos Ninja V opposed to the A7IV that does not. Then theres the back screen and the Crispy ass EVF.
@@benjhaisch I will agree the new menu, colors and new flip out screen would be more beneficial for your workflow.
The face registration AF feature is revolutionary
So basically the differences are very small but EXTREMELY useful. SO GO BUY IT 😂
It’s been a month… did you end up upgrading?
On the R5 if you shoot in the lower megapixel setting, does it perform better in lowlight? If it does, this may be why I upgrade to it over the a74
Hi , Is the Full frame Xtra fine 26 MP JPEG also benefitting in Low light on A7R5 compared to 61 MP JPEG. Can u suggest on it .
i am basically a JPEG shooter and confused between buying a74 and a7r5 , i have good budget for a7r5 and will pull the plug for it , if 26 MP JPEG is also benefitting in low light. You can shoot in 61MP in good lighning for extra detail and resolution on A7R5 and switch to 26 MP for low light benefits if light goes down.
i have seen and read that medium RAW benefit s in low light , but so should 26 MP jpeg too , just wanted to confirm with you on it . Thank you.
i don't understand this review. the two cameras differ mostly in resolution, i would have thought the only thing people would be interested in is to see a heavily cropped and zoomed comparison, that would show whether you get more detail with the A7RV and how much more, but you didn't do a single such comparison. my only reason for considering to upgrade to a7rv is because i would want to be able to crop in more, sort of like a replacement for getting a longer lens. but this video did not answer that question.
otherwise a very good video, i am just surprised that the only question i thought most people would have about this comparison, was not answered.
did you watch @7:54 ? I also talk about the ability to use the APS-C crop to 26mp. I'm not sure what you're looking for outside of those?
@@benjhaisch yes i watched the entire video (and again thank you btw, still a good and interesting video). what i would have wished around 7:54 is way closer zoom. you quickly say "obviously you can see a huge difference in resolution" but first of all at that point both images are zoomed to different sizes so it's hard to compare exact details, and they both still look crisp and detailed enough, at least at my 27" 4k monitor. I would have wanted a much closer zoom with both images equally zoomed in. and maybe for many different images. just to answer the question "if i take a photo with the A7RV, how much more will i be to crop while still maintaining good enough detail?".
i know maybe i come off as arrogant talking about what "I" wanted to see, but I would have thought this was the only thing people would want to compare, since all the other things (such as dynamic range) are obviously going to be similar and amazing in both cameras.
@@Bcutter they’re both at 100% crop? You’re seeing the exact amount of extra detail you’ll be getting out of the same image, no?
@@benjhaischah now i understand. took me a second to realize that cropping 100% on each is basically the most amount of zoom you can do without starting to see resolution artifacts, and hence gives a good idea of how much "closer" you can get to the subject. at first i even missed that both were 100% crop and i didn't understand why you would show them both with different subject size. so i am sorry about that. however, i still think it would have been valuable to see even more zoomed, with both subjects equal size; a side-by-side where you can see exactly how much more detail the A7RV has. so in summary, what you show at 7:58 is actually exactly what i was looking for, how much "closer" i can get to the subject, but it in a way does not show how much more detail you get, but maybe that's not actually of interest in that sense.
i admit when i am at fault, and thanks for clearing it up!
I did some testing on the Medium Raw of the A7RV, it loses a ton of highlight dynamic range vs the Large Raw. They are both supposed to be lossless so I wonder if this is a bug, have you tested that?
Yeah there is a drop in DR. I’m not sure why tbh, but it’s something I can solve by simply using the full resolution mode when needed
Hello, Can the Sony A7 RV take high quality images in sports, where there is action, with a Sony 100 - 400 F 4.5 - 5.6 G lens???
Absolutely. Best autofocus I’ve ever used. Only downside is the “slower” frames per second burst rate.
@@benjhaisch frankly 10 images per second is more than enough for me, I wanted to be on its autofcus, I want to avoid the A9 II OR III FOR THE PRICE plus the a7RV is also good for landscape
This video talked me out of an A7RV. I have an A7IV and I don't think any of the extra features are worth the cost to me.
I’m in the same boat. It’s a a tough one.
I never owned the IV so I had no problem whatsoever buying a V.
Is there a reason you used a GM on A7RV and a contemporary lens on A7IV in those couple of instances? Totally not fair and even then, the A7IV did better. Sony Diddy needs to try harder
The vast majority of the video is either GM/GM or even the exact lens. It was about the sensor, not the lens itself. What was this in? 3 photos?
@@benjhaisch first, I think your content is great. Second, your caption says “A7RV vs A7IV” sensor isn’t mentioned. Maybe work on that part so I know before I click the bait. Third, did you think anyone wouldn’t notice the discrepancy/difference? If you’re gonna compare, be consistent and fair with the comparison. All I’m sayin. We can disagree on things right?
@@Louie_Ponce_Motography honestly, I’m legitimately confused at why you’re taking issue with those in particular. I must be missing something.
@@benjhaisch I hate being confused and confusing people. Take care
Feel free to message me on IG or something, I honestly am trying to figure out how I was trying to pull one over on anyone. Would love to continue the dialogue to better understand and possibly avoid what it is you’re concerned about in the future.
How is the external grip for these?
I just use these little smallrig extension baseplates that extend the grips a bit but also gives an arca plate for tripods.
From 33 Mp to 61 Mp !? YES !!!
I don’t do near as much work as you, but I got into Sony with the A7RV. I then picked up an A7IV, per your recommendation. They pair together very nicely!
Why did you buy a 7iv if you already had a 7rv, i dont get it maybe i missed something
@@estebanod for my back up camera. Also, I like to shoot with a 35 and 85 combo with a dual strap.
@@collinheath3290 does 1000 USD price hike justify to choose A7R5 over A74 ? I'm in a dilemma right now
In the output, when you’re editing, if you don’t need it, no. But the experience of using the camera is much improved for sure.
If you are shooting for the pure joy of photography the A7IV is brilliant and now at 2700 dollars Canadian affordable. If you are a working photographer buy the A7R V...I have the Sony A7S III...its a great camera...but I spent too much.
Thank you for this! I’ve been trying to decide for months on getting another A7iv or getting the A7rV.
It doesnt save space on cards...the 26mp raw is STILL 126mb!
Thanks for satisfying my curiosity
Save money and buy the Sony A1ii. If you start saving now; you will have enough by end of this year.
Is there actual proof that there will be a Sony A1II
Let’s get away from pixel peeping and go back to shooting creative. Just think, 15years ago there were photographers taking amazing photos…..
Btw. Absolutely amazing Review!
I'm at 0:26 on ur 14:33 minute video, I can already give u the answer. Really don't need to watch the rest. Of course the upgrade--to the five thousand dollar camera, the Sony a7rV is worth it. Even though the a7iv cost half the price, it has twice the headaches, called OVERHEATING. So a Koooolllll camera is worth every dollar, every penny more that it might cost. Question Answered>Question Done. Now to kick back and enjoy the rest of ur video. 😎😎
The A7Iv must have burned your hands lol
Overheat is not serious on A7IV. I can shot 10 hours continuously under 4K 24P under A7IV. I face overheating problem only when I want to shoot long hours of 4K 60P
@@angwk Thanks for sharing.
The amount of noise you're getting at ISO 100 when zoomed in on the A7RV is ridiculous. I've seen tons of other close-up shots and none display the amount of noise that your pics do.
Hmmm, I’m really not seeing it on my end, maybe that’s bad RUclips compression?
For me the better lcd screen is worth it. Bigger and higher res.
I've had an A7IV since pretty much day-one, and wanted a second camera to replace my aging A7III. I went with the A7RV instead of a second a7IV. For a moment I considered replacing the A7IV with another A7RV, but my wallet keeps telling me that I can't right now. :(
I think an A7IV/A7RV combo is pretty awesome. Probably the direction I'll be going
Fx3 maybe
Upgrade? Photo, yes. Video, no.
anyone know what photo editing program he is using?
Lightroom Classic
a7rv has more dynamic range the same time more luma noise🤔
Benj thanks for this .video
what are the grips you have on them?
They're from smallrig ➡️ geni.us/D93EXN
Let's ignore the auto focus systems completely.
Thank you, l appreciate seeing the comparison. I do find it less helpful when you don’t compare like crops. While zooming in it is obvious that you zoomed in more on the right image R5. Obviously you will see more grain and a less sharpness. The views were very similar until zooming in. Forgive me if I’m missing something, but it seems to take a lot of value out of the otherwise terrific video you obviously worked very hard on. The other thing that confuses me is comparing color without mentioning profiling. Thank you for a very nice video that could have been great. IMHO
Sorry it is the left image that is zooming in more.
No, Neither has fast enough processor (due to high megapixel) giving you Bad rolling shutter. Keep your A74, Sell your A7r5 and buy A7siii that way you have both high megapixel (A74), and a low light monster (A7s3 with low rolling shutter). Apsc is not worth it. too noisy even on FX3. or save your money and wait for the next CPU generation that will eliminate rolling shutter (due 2024 or 2025).
Already have an FX3. Bought an A7RV and ended up selling my A7IV for an A7CR. FX3 does everything I need for video and the same sensor on the A7RV/A7CR is really nice.
7R IV uses Bionz X
7RV uses Bionz XR
I will wait for the Sony A7R X
Even the name sounds scary good
Do you know what that one will be like or when it might come?
@@erinn1730 2035
Significant upgrade coming from the A7ii? Im seeing my screen resolution is better on my A7ii 🤣
What’s the screen res on an A7II???
@@benjhaisch
1,230,000 dots. Have you owned the A7II? Huge upgrade Im sure on either of these 2. Im wondering if I should wait for the A7V or just get the A7RV now. Will I like the A7RV more than the A7V? Haha What are your thoughts? Thanks!
@Rainy78 A7RV is 2,359,296
Yes, pgrade from a7ii! But the price 😢😢😢😢😢😢, need to win the lottery. 😅😅😅😅
In 2024 not , just w8 for the A7V 😊
Dude how many cameras do you NEED :D
Nice flex :D
*need??? Only three
But as someone inspired by trying out new things and using random other gear as part of my job. I’m fine with having lots of options :)
It’s worth paying the extra for the RV just to be rid of that damn side hinged rear LCD.
😂
Why do all photographers talk like they are broke, oh this is expensive, my wallet ? You need something you pay for it ?
Not the same metrics for a hobby photographer compared to a professional photographer...
for me total winner on 100% is a7 iv because i need image quality and there i see total nightmare noise on a7r v photos what for me is worst than nightmare !!! i do correct choise when order a7 iv
I own the a7iv I think at the very least they could reduce the 4K 60 crop to like 1.2x 1.3x or 1.4x instead of 1.5x they did a smaller crop for the a7rv so I don’t see why they couldn’t reduce on the a7iv it’s the very least they could do to help them and there customers or maybe remove or make a mark 2 I reckon if we work together they will have to listen and make a change and with your large platform and influence would really help if you could spread the idea around thx
@@Sidowse they shouldn’t of put such a limitation in full frame camera
@@Sidowse they weren’t doing that for us they did it for them and that is not very cool
@@Sidowse I expect more as a customer and so should you we should stand up for ourselves this is just about money they could of put a better sensor and even just a less crop or just no crop there just making excuses
@@Sidowse the a1 is number 1 camera anyone could get but it doesn't have a flip screen. The RV is pretty much an all around camera and the things it can do many people won't really need.
@@Sidowse I don't. That's why I said 'many'.
The majority of people on RUclips are not professional cameramen. Even if they are its less likely they need say 4k120fps or a really fast a1/a9 sensor. Only a small percentage of people absolutely need those features generally speaking.
I dont think its fair to talk about these cameras and NOT talk about video. for that reason, you get a dislike (considering we are watching this in video and not reading it with photos)
haha! it's funny because every single video I get fed only talks about video. As a wedding photographer, that's why I focused on the photography aspects.
@@benjhaisch i guess I'm always wrong. what I look for i cant find. blame the algo.
Fwiw the nice thing is that they do such a good job at both
just get the A1
Could almost buy both cameras for that price 🫠
you can also buy 100 toyotas for the price of a ferrari @@benjhaisch doesn't mean the toyotas are better
@grassrootsphotographysean4474 I mean, I get it. The A1 is amazing, but also this isn’t a video about that camera and frankly 90% of people I know who own it would probably be better off with the A7RV anyway ;)
So tired of seeing reviews that demo side by side photos and the reviewer doesn’t take the extra effort to manually adjust the photo that seems zoomed out to match the higher resolution’d camera. You went the mile to publish this, go the inch for the comparison JUST DO IT!!@10:39 equal them out in size and let’s see FFS!!!!!!
You know what’s funny, is the last time I did that people complained that I wasn’t giving the higher resolution camera credit for having more detail hahaha. You just can’t win sometimes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@benjhaisch OMG MAN. In that case target both audience types? All that would have taken is an extra 2 seconds in your time line per comparison photo. One version for 1 type and the next clip to compare LIKE for LIKE. Bam! 2 types of ppl satisfied. Then Let’s get you a flippin coffee mug that says best reviewer ever!
Not worth
A7iv entry level camera.....really???
oh shoot, did I say that? what I meant if so was that the A7IV is the entry level of the “pro” cameras although the market usually considers them to be “prosumer” cameras.
@@benjhaisch sony a7III is better than canon 5d mark iv, and that was a pro camera...and so many other cameras...a camera is pro in the hands of a good photographer, not because of the price and features...but definitely a7iv is not a entry level camera just because is accessible to the mass, 2500 us dollars is 2 years a work for some people, to put aside the money to buy it...for them is the holly grail...and A7rV....Concorde, price wise
It is technically sonys entry level full-frame camera. And is marketed as a pro-sumer camera, rather than a professional camera. What a time to be alive.
@@idreaminsurfgreen5327 what a time to be alive when a7r5 is gonna be old, and the same features you find in a 2500 camera... Than you will understand... Don't be fulled, what a time to live in Europe...
I don't think I'm following what you mean.
In my opinion, Sony makes the most unaesthetic cameras among all the competitors. Even though they might be insanely good, the camera would not motivate me to shoot with it. That's why I don't like Sony content :( I think Canon, Leica, Fujifilm and Hasselblad much more interesting :)
So you came here to a video about Sony cameras to say you don't like Sony content? And also that you wouldn't use the best tool available because you don't like the way it looks?
@@aboynamedjamil I've been following Benj for a while and I'm interested in all cameras. But Sony cameras are just so ugly 😂 I mean look at the Leica and then a Sony. I don't think it's pretty at all. And I think the appearance of the camera is of course not a main reason, but I love the feeling of holding a camera in my hand that I just like and does not look too technical and modern.
@@aboynamedjamil A retro design for Sony I would also be interesting 😍
Haha, yeah I mean I don't disagree with you. That's why I use Sony & Leica/Hasselblad/Fujifilm together :) Would have stayed at Canon but.... ruclips.net/video/QX4UBNoyawc/видео.html ;)
@@aboynamedjamil yoo Jamil
The sony a7Rv actually looks sick. The design and screen especially
Hi, great review. Please tell me, I want to change canon 5 d m 3 to Sony. I want to spend on a good camera, for a long time. Is it worth spending more money on Sony a7r 5?
I think both will be a massive improvement, but the overall experience with the A7RV will be better. Totally depends on your needs though.