Why You Should Still Buy a GT350R Before They Stop Making It - One Take
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- Опубликовано: 3 дек 2020
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We drove the Shelby GT350R back in 2016 when it was new, and it was game-changing for what the SVT team was able to achieve both with the Voodoo engine, a once-in-a-generation mill, and also the agility, the best ever for a front-engined Ford. Now that Ford has announced the end of this generation of GT350, we took the opportunity to take the last California press car for a proper blast! The 2021 Ford Mustang GT350R follows Porsche's GT3 playbook to a T, and offers not just one of the most rewarding experiences available in an American car, but one of the most rewarding experiences available in all cars.
Ford provided the vehicle, insurance, and a tank of gas for this review.
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Me: damn gotta pick one up before they get rare
Bank account: $3.75
this is what im afraid of , when the time comes that we can actually afford one is when it's already out of production and sky rocketed prices
@@kiko865 won’t happen
Got a regular 350...worth a 2nd job.
@@kiko865 price has already started to rise on the R's. I didn't believe it but looked at the inventory and it's going up significantly.
we must treasure the high revving NA engines before they're all gone
Thought my N/A 3.7 V6 with a 7500rpm redline was highish, forgot about these 350R's.
I’ll treasure my s2000 forever
@@solocamo3654 vq37vhr gang
@@colelucas5936 yessir z squad 👌
High red line = no torque = slow AF
100% Agree that the GT350 engine will go down in history as of one of the greatest V8/American engines ever built. Not to mention probably the best sounding as well.
Best sounding. Definitely not the best motor since they randomly explode.
@@2sauced224 they really dont. Only morons broke them.
@@shanefowler9443 I could see how they could be easily broken by fools with that high rpm
Looks like C8 Z06 is getting a FPC engine as well
Omio k in
Imagine being the foreman sitting in that trailer hearing hell itself fly by lol. Hopefully made his day.
Haha my exact thoughts!! I like to give people the eargasm when they look at the car!
Still the most desirable American car of this era
Nope that's the manual 750hp zr1 corvette, most powerful manual car ever. Viper ties with it being the car with the most lap records of a production car and a manual car. The gt350r is top 5 though probably.
@@user-hc5si5tw5p nah still doesnt "drive" like an R. the ZR1 = wow what power...the gt350r = wow i am in love.
Ford GT doubled in value... GT350R not so much but still top 5
@@GrabberBlue5.2 agreed
@@eurly93 I get that, but I really don't lust after the GT the way I do the GT350.
I've got 35k on my 350R! I definitely didn't buy it to gather dust. It's absolutely a car I'll keep in my garage forever. I daily drove it for about a year. Great video!
I'm so jealous ☹️ I appreciate owners like you though. Make that pony run!!!
nice! i just hit 42k on mine. On my 3rd set of tires haha
@@MTD369 thank you both for actually driving your cars, I admire owners like you
Early oil and oil filter changes and keep up on other fluid maintenance and you'll be all good.
That engine is amazing. DOHC V8 and revs like a Honda.
I have 37,982 miles on my daily driven 2017 Gt350, only mod are lighter wheels (9 pounds lighter per corner). Cars are made to be driven!
I just purchased at 2016 GT350 with 8k miles on it. I love it
And you got a great deal did you lol. Sucks for that guy. Don't save the pussy for the next guy and drive it like crazy.
@@nastang87xx "Don't save the pussy" lol
For the love of god drive the piss out of it for all of us that can’t afford them. I’ll have fun in my Miata, but I’d be a liar if I said I wouldn’t do just about anything to have a GT350 in my driveway.
@@nastang87xx The guy who was the original owner is now 80 years old. It’s an awesome car and I plan on being buried in it when I croak..lol
@@mazda_miata_ haaaa haaa I plan on it
“Anyway, what I was saying was-“ WWRAAAA
😂😂😂😂 amazing! Wraaaaap!
What are the odds, I was literally just re-watching his review from 2016
My first Farah video was the review/comparison of Mustang vs Camaro.
ruclips.net/video/RyA5ojXS2cU/видео.html
"There are no coincidences"
I'm not shitting you... this video pushed me over the edge to buy my GT350 the very next day this video came out. Thanks Matt!
1 year later, worth it?
did you do resonator delete yet
@@SuitOne wow late reply here. Very much. Smile ear to ear every single time I'm in the car.
@@BingBangBrine not yet. Unfortunately falls low on the priority list as of late (given the many recent adulting expenses I have incurred). Will eventually get it done though.
@@jr688 Haha very shortly after I made that comment, I bought my own. I have to concur with your reply, it's an amazing car.
One of the more beautiful drives. I hope matt uses this anonymous road more often.
A version of that motor is what the Ford GT should have had.
a supercharged version
It should have had this or the gt500 motor
It wouldn’t fit.
A v8 would have been nice, but ford wanted to have a nice taper in the back for the “flying buttcheeks”. Ford removing 2 cylinders to get a nice taper for the ford gt. reminds me of women back in the day removing 2 ribs to get that nice tapered hourglass body.
The Gt is an endurance racer. The extra weight and fuel the v8 requires would have slowed it down. Its a better race car with the v6 which is what they built it for, but it would probably be a much more engaging road car with a v8.
If Honda made a V8 it would be a Voodoo. The S2000 of muscle cars imo. This is the Mustang that got me back into Ford.
Agreed and well said.
I always tell my friends it's like an American S2000. Everything is just....more. More power, more speed, more weight, more room inside, more room outside, more cylinders, more cams, more noise. It even feels like VTEC kicks in at 3500RPM when the Ti-VCT shift profiles.
The GT350 is like a Japanese S2000 I agree. In European terms, the GT350 is basically a European M3 (E46 or E90/92 version). All these cars rev high, and handle well. The GT350 is the pinnacle of “track street car” for America, just like the S2000 and E46 M3 was for Japan and Europe.
@@SoulRebel02 no it doesn’t feel like that at all haha. I’ve driven a couple of them. Definitely doesn’t have a VTEC feel haha. It does rev though.
Very great analogy
Bought a 2017 gt350 in early 2021, and will likely never sell it. Absolutely incredible car and I can't imagine anything I'd rather have for the price range. Your various reviews of the gt350 helped a lot in the decision making process, so I thank you for that!
Bought a lightly used 2017 GT350 (non R) last year. Absolutely zero regrets. Even has more than enough room to take the wife and kiddo on weekend road trips.
It goes without saying the GT350R (and the "normal" 350's) are legends, and will remain legends. More over, its one of THE last great analog drivers sports cars. GT500 is great if not greater but its paddle shifting a very different experience. But the GT350R... Shelby, Mustang, sweet looks sweet sounds (voodoo v8 8250rpm FPC) a first for mustang, and worth a hell of a lot down the road. The car will never loose its value.
that cup holder should get some credit... my c7 would have thrown that coffee into the cargo area
Your c7 will also carry more lateral g force
Bro corvette cup holders are some of the worst my c6z will spill coffee if i stand on it in 2nd gear 😂😂😂😂
@@jakobmcguire c6z cup holders are non existent 😂 I can’t fit anything bigger than a water bottle in mine
@@unanimouslyunanimous literally or you can fit a large drink in them but then can’t use 5th 6th or reverse 🤣
@@jakobmcguire it’s the worst bro!
Matt- that left hairpin snuck up on me
Me- yea it snuck up on someone else too by the looks of it
This road is an absolute dream!
Yup, it really has a little bit of everything! Just if you don't know, it's the 39 up Azusa!
@@osbaldotheVtenman I only have a measly honda fit but man would it be a blast on this road
@@osbaldotheVtenman I'm planning a road trip and trying to figure out this exact road, is it really a dead end? I'm looking at the 39 going north from Azusa and it looks like it connects to the 2, is that the right road?
@@NoahBB Yup, right road. However, the 39 closes right at the top (just passing crystal lake cafe). The connector from 39 to hwy 2 has been closed for quite a long time now. Bit of a shame since this would be such a good cruise with two of SoCals best canyon roads combined.
@@NoahBB Yeah the connecting road is closed due to constant rock falls and the road itself falling down the cliff
Matt if you want one call walls ford in Portsmouth NH no over sticker BS and there is a pre owned one there now.
Not true, the non-R Heritage Edition they have is 10k over sticker.
I've owned my gt350 for 3 years now, and it's still start > loud mode. cant get enough
Man I can't believe it's almost been 6 years since this car originally came out. Back then I was in high school and just starting to learn more about cars and appreciate them and of course i immediately fell in love with it. Looking at it now as an engineering student this thing inspires me to grow and eventually contribute in making such a product that is geared at enthusiasts without costing so much that only people who won't have the time to appreciate are able to buy them. It really is a fine line and I love how this car walks down it
One of your best yet i think. The car, the sound, the road, the time of day...I want one now.
I've always thought of the GT350/R as the entry level entry into the category of the Porsche GT cars.
Fact. Many many Porsche owners have these cars as a second car because they are so special. I am one of those people
@@02hreblue30me too
I can't afford an GT3 RS so I bought an R for now ...Im not regretting it
Always appreciate your content Matt, great review! Really happy to see you get the chance to get behind the wheel again. Absolutely love mine and I plan on keeping it as long as I possibly can. I imagine, I'll be that guy you hear on the weekends when the electrics take over just ringing out my 5.2L Voodoo V8!
Like you, I've wanted one since they came out in 2015, but was not willing to pay over MSRP. I had pretty much given up finding a new one at a reasonable price, until I stumbled across a new 2019 GT350R at my local dealer while getting the oil changed in my F150. It had been sitting on the showroom floor for six months and when I inquired about it, they said I could have it for invoice. I couldn't believe it! I picked it up on New Year's Day 2020 and have enjoyed every minute of driving it. I plan to keep it forever.
widely available for over 2 years at MSRP. I bought my R two years ago for MSRP
Someone in my area has one of these and I can hear it coming from miles away. Epic. If only I could afford one, I would take one in an instant. Great review Matt. Thank you for the honest reviews and the really entertaining podcast. Cheers.
Absolutely love my 2018 gt350. So thankful I was able to get into one this year!
The cold start from these is still pretty insane. I was working at a Ford dealer when these came out and I was passing by in another car when one fired up in the lot, it caught my attention even being enclosed in another fairly modern car.
Enjoyed every minute of this video. The engine noises and the commentary.
Farah, appreciate the awesome videos as always. Can't even recall how long I've been watching them. Pretty much my go to for actual reviews.
I love my 19’ GT so much. The performance is spectacular. Upgraded wheels exhaust and springs and it’s a perfect budget track car. Couple minor issues but overall what a car.
Someone in my area has one and I always get excited hearing it come by my house!
Oct 31 bought a 2020 GT350 (under sticker) with 4 miles on it. Already at 4.5k miles and running E85 (really wakes the car up). This reminded me I need to do the resonator delete asap (screw quiet mode)! Also only drive it in Sport mode it's the only way to go. Few Steeda handling upgrades and that tramlining goes away and it really becomes a track monster 😉
Yup no resonators like the 350R
@@YTkingcherry done months ago! Now debaiting long tube headers and full Kooks exhaust to the mufflers
I have to say that your videos on the R and the passion with which you expressed your pure joy in driving one was one of the things that put me over the top into actually buying one. I've waited since 2016 and finally got mine last year custom ordered at MSRP. To anyone on the fence about these cars, YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT. It's an absolute roller coaster ride from the moment you buckle in, every time. It will go down as one of the last great NA engine cars ever made, not just American but in the world.
18 GT350R. 13600 miles. Ever mile was a smile. My true dream car.
agreed
GT500 is amazing, but I will always be in love with a GT350.
500 is WAYYYYYY to heavy
i have a non-R 2017 and still worth the money every time i start it up and/or go wide open throttle for a few seconds on a open straight.. Great fun up in the canyons.
Matt, watching you drive this car through the twisties Never gets old. This is my third time reviewing this video and the Second Gear, High Reving Action through the twisties is second to none..... It is truly "All World" GOOD!!!
Hey I have to say, Matt is looking great I'm quite happy to see the homie shaping up, you do great for your self man and thanks for bringing back the 'VOODOO'👍
Amen to the Transmission Swippy Swap!!
I like that transmission swap idea w the GT500’s DCT. The high revving GT350R w the DCT would be amazing, getting it closer in feel like a GT3
this is such a great example of how special and charming matts content is.
The shelby gt350r is the best muscle car ever made for me.
The vodoo v8 and the sound ut makes, the 6 speed manual, flatplane crank naturally aspirated engine, carbon fibre wheels and spoiler is all that anyone can wish for.
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Somebody modded these canyon roads into Assetto Corsa on PC and while you're driving around you see Smoking Tire hot-air balloons in the sky.
What's the mod called?
@@PlayinWithMahWii It's called LA Canyons. Just go to the RaceDepartment website and sort Assetto Corsa tracks by downloads and it should be like the 4th or 5th most downloaded track mod on there. THey've got PCH on there too and it's really good.
Special, special car that we’ll remember for years.
Took your advice and just purchased a 2019 GT350R with 2000 miles on it. It's a beast. Thanks for the advice!
Yup, one of the great all time engines, and the shifter is superb too. We’ll miss cars like this ...
2018 GT350 owner here love her
Edit: the oiling and fire issues are only on 2017s and older
The part to change to the new style is 600 bucks
Solid information
Which part is that?
@@dylancakes updated oil canister design kit to replace the thread on oil filters
It's actually 2017MY cars made through January 2017. February 2017 cars (like mine) got the new design.
Really? I was on the GT350 forums and the guys there seem to be recommending 2019 and up Model years.
"flippen ze bitchn" would be a great shirt with a sweet uturn graphic
How TF is this channel not at 1 Million subs yet!? Matt I’ve been here for years and years and loved every video you’ve made.
Thanks to E.Hartford I’m here and happy to have contributed to the 1 mill subs. Congrats 🥳
This car is so intense! Definitely the mustang to get if you have the money
Matt’s first review of the gt350r is probably my personal most watched RUclips video ever. Love that he did an “exit review” on what seems to be a special car.
Love my 2019 GT350. Blast to drive on a good mountain road. Windows down and sounds echoing off the mountain side... can't beat it IMO! Cool video Matt.
MAKE THE DRIVE UP, MORE VLOGS FROM THIS LOCATION!!! CONTINUE THE EXCELLENT CONTENT MATT
Sent (lol) by Emelia - loved the storage yard, holy smokin' catfish batman!!
Having that road at your disposal must be so fun.
It definitely is...Bad ass canyon road to haul ass in and very technical as well. It would make the palms sweat from one hair pin turn to the next.
Nice channel Matt, I'm glad Emelia Hartford hooked us up with you. Can't wait to check out all your videos
I have G3312 . Drove this car once. I went from never owning an American car for the first 20 years of my driving life to selling two bmw's including an e92 m3 to get this car. It's truly epic
YES----sold my Porsche to get it
Music to my ears
I just bought my 2020 GT350 in June and i already have 12k miles. It's the ultimate daily driver
Could have gotten a Hellcat over a freakin Ford my man
@@chamade166 I don't think anyone is cross shopping the GT350 and the Hellcat.
@@chamade166 A hellcat?? why would i want a run of the mill hellcat when i can have the best mustang every created by a long shot
I agree man, I’ve put 10k on mine in the past year. The sound is intoxicating
@@PlayinWithMahWii The Hellcat is a real muscle car with more power and displacement bro. So you can get a faster muscle for cheaper than a pony car.
I recently bought a 2020 GT350R in this exact specification and had the pleasure of getting it out on track last month. What Matt says here about it being a "momentum car" was really brought home to me on the track. It turns in so nicely and with the track camber settings, carries a surprising amount of speed through corners. This thing does 100mph in 3rd, so there were stretches I was able to take flat where most other cars would have to shift. A bystander videoing the event came up to me after and told me the GT350 was the best sounding car there. I'll take that :)
BINGO.
It is a pure pleasure to see these cars build a legacy. The fact that the R is not mass produced makes them desirable and the privelege of driving one is something you cannot replace. Personally one of the beat american cars for the track. Naturally aspirated and that noise is spectacular up here in canada there's only a few and you know it's an R before you even see because of that noise. I would have loved to see them run a single model year of the heritage gt40 with that voodoo motor not a turbid v6
Speed Limit, 20
Your Speed, OW
Does that mean Oh Wow?
That up shift at 5:06 though !
I've listened to this 23 times
Camping up and snow trips are so fun there. Can’t believe I’ve missed hearing this in person. Sick video Matt 👌🏾glad to see a pro use this Canyon for once.
Do you know exactly which canyon road he's on? Someone said GMR, but GMR is not a deadend...
Man when I saw the thumbnail I thought I was back in 2016 still wishing I had a mustang lol. Wow time flies. I remember sitting in the car watching the 350 and then the 350R video back then that you uploaded.
This is my favorite modern car. I'd take a 2016 GT350 over a 2020 GT500. 11 times out of 10. If straight line bullshit is your thing, send it to Fathouse Fabrications and blow away that purple Viper you had on "Sorted" lol. The car just needs real longtubes instead of the garbage Tri-Y stock stuff. Makes it sound 100x better. But you nailed it on the head with the trans. The MT82 is the sole reason I will never buy a GT, but would kill for a Shelby. The GT350 is the 911 GT3. And the GT350R is the GT3 RS. I dig it.
kooks long tubes ftw
You know it's stuff like this that makes me never want to sell my 350. It's not an R, but it's too much fun and I can't fathom selling it. I'd have to be desperate tbh...and even then what a hard choice it would be
Sell a kidney first if it comes to it.
@@TrevForPresident yes the kidney goes - you have two kidneys, only one 350.
yup mine is likely a forever car. Will ride out the end of the ICE automotive era with one of the greatest V8s ever in what is arguably the most iconic lineage of American performance car
I love this car just as you test drove it. Especially the Colors and Striping. Great job!
The “Voodoo” V8 is one masterful piece of machinery
Matt get back one of these days on a 981 GT4 and give your impressions after 5 years.
Living in the UK, I've always said if I win the Lotto I'd immediately import both a current GT500 as well as a GT350R. So jealous that they won't import them to Europe.
If all goes well, I'll be bringing mine to the UK in the near future
Love the video and the car! I remember the first video that I saw of Matt and it was a Shelby Terlingua Mustang V6. Epic video that was and still remember it to this day. Could be nice to see remastered HD version of that video!
High praise! I want one so bad but I can't have this and my Raptor in the stable at the same time right now. I hope there's another generation that's as good and retains the Voodoo and manual. Have never had a speeding ticket somehow but I bookmarked OffTheRecord because my luck will run out someday.
Matt in Ontario Canada they can't sell above msrp next time you wanna pickup something that's being marked up
Anthony yeah but tax x2
@@AbbadonXII when the markup is tens of thousands it's still less lol
@@AbbadonXII You don't have to pay local taxes if the vehicle isn't being registered there.
Yes they can, the R was 25k markup in ontario lol
They absolutely can.
God I would love to take that car down that road just once! 🔥❤️
You're the guy reviewing cars that I've been looking for. I own a 2017 GT350 and I absolutely love it. Its the best mustang I've ever owned. Now that I have it, I am completely spoiled in how I believe mustangs should be. Recently I've been eye balling a Roush Stage 3 to go along with my GT350 but to be more of a daily driver. After seeing your review of this GT350R and seeing your most recent review of the RS3, You've helped me understand why I shouldn't go for an RS3. Now the question is what do I go after instead? Thank you for your honest reviews!
Enjoyed the video that looked soo much funn
The 2019 and 2020 gt350r will be such a collectible car in 20 years. A gasoline car this special will never be made by an American car brand ever again.
z06
Corvette C8: "What am I, chopped liver?"
The z06 is just going to be another rear engine flat plane crank. Ferrari has been doing that for years. Nothing special there.
@@KnivesNow .... just like the gt350r.
@@HoratioHoodoo the 350r is a manual front engine flat plane crank. I don’t know of another front engine manual fpc American car that came before this...
what a road. living in California is worth whatever you have to pay for it
Where is this at?
@@josephr.8622 highway 39 up to moonlight lake
Just when I thought this was just another amazing gt350 driving review... this guy drives the car in quiet mode lol! That’s never been done before!
Thank you, that was a cool ride! Impressive Mustang for sure!
I wish they did a "scat pack" version of this car where you get the voodoo + tremec in a regular mustang without all the aero and 30k extra price tag.
The GT350 guys on the forums are recommending buying at least a 2019 model year 350/350R. Problem is finding a 350R that’s 2019 or newer that doesn’t have BS markup.
Early cars are fine at this point - if they haven't had any issues, they will go for a long time. I sold my 16R with 13k miles, didn't use an abnormal amount of oil (maybe .5 between changes). Find one with good records and have it inspected.
Not true, less than 1% of all 350s built have issues. I’ve seen failures even on 2020 models
I’m confused on which model years are the best to get. There’s a lot of different opinions going around. If I want to track the GT350 pretty often, is it worth getting the upgraded engine in the 2019 and 2020?
The earlier cars are going for a big discount so it’s a hard decision.
I bought my 2019 two years ago zero problems at MSRP no waiting list.
nice channel and not ego-based ty. came over here from EmeliaHartford Chanel, you got your mill so cool congrats
So this mustang was the first model to be sold in RHD in the UK. Unfortunately no official RHD Shelby models were sold over here, which was really disappointing. That sound of that voodoo flat plane, even on video, sounds amazing!
Bought a 2018 GT350 for $3k under sticker in a small town of East Texas then brought it back to LA. Loved the car but its engine blew up twice and ended up Lemon Law-ing it back to Ford...so effectively a free car for 2 years. Hopefully the latest ones have become more reliable.
Crust how many miles did you put on your 18 mine is at 10k. Got it for 55k.
@@RCXDerp 20k miles
I love my 2019 R
Same here!
@@pnw_gt350r7 yo where do you live? Dm me. I'm in Renton.
@@gnosism Oh nice, olympia. Do you track at the ridge motorsport park?
@@pnw_gt350r7 twice.
How do afford mustang Shelby GT350 R ? I want to buy one some day in future.
5th Camaro owner here with a manual gearbox and 7k redline moderately modded with 500whp - I'd trade it in a heartbeat if I could locate a 350R in the right pricing zip code. The $20k difference for similar track performance between the bromaro and the mustang but I do get "it". Visceral Voodoo banshee screaming to 8K RPM and driving experience are certainly worth proper consideration. Great presentation and will note the effort to get the tasteful drive by shots and as usual very (pardon the pun) sound audio work Matt. Your passion for the car comes through the camera and goddamit I want one!
For the ultimate collectible and resale value definitely get the R, but I have my regular GT 350 bought new in 2017 and for all around use I love it everything from all kids in the back to tracking. The ride is slightly softer so when I start it it goes straight to sport mode even on Michigan roads.
Gonna have to wait another 30-40 years before that egg gets cleaned off your face if you paid $90gs 😂
They also would have to keep the car at a low mileage; completely missing the point of owning one of these masterpieces
@@cbtorture69 depends how many people crash them or drive their's hard.
a DCT with that engine and shorter gearing will make it a missile
taking the manual out of that car is a sacrilege...
@@gky3019 nah it too fast and stiff for the road and not fast enough for the track because of the manual, it won't be a loss in my book especially when the manual tremic made it to the mach 1
@@ssllhh100 doesn't have to be fast to be fun. I think you should book a gt500 if you want a pure missile. The gt350/r is the "funnier" version.
@@bttfsof i want a GT3 RS version of the GT350R not a GT2 RS ... so the GT500 won't do, too much car for me, 500hp i think i can handle on a track, but 760 is way too much, nothing on it will last a full track day, brakes tyres ... and it heat soaks after a few laps
You mean a GT500 then...
I always drive my gt350 in sports mode and I had my resonator deleted and always window down wow pure sound amazing. Southern California
As you can see, I was able to acquire a 2020 GT350 in California in early 2021 and had it shipped to Shelby American where it became a GT350 SE, one of only 100 on the planet ... And I love the car because it forces one to become a better driver. It demands your attention... no cell phones in hand anyway, and with this baby it goes on silent mode lol. Can't hear it anyway lol...
I wish these were right-hand drive.
EVs are faster in terms of straight line acceleration. But for the emotional enjoyment, those NA motors are invincible！
That is such a good exhaust note!
Loud mode is best mode!
God damn god bless America!
I had a ‘17 GT350 with a Corsa double x-pipe as the only mod. Bought at sticker out of western PA. It was absolutely magnificent, I miss it.