"I'm going to pause it just for a bit, now that I know what's happening". Probably one of the best reaction lines ever, just before Tatiana sends their brain spinning!! Great reaction!
Is it really her voice, though, in the growls? It does not come from the vocal cords. It is a vibration of the throat sides away from the vocal cords. Is it enough that the growls are being shaped by the mouth into words? I have heard people who can make understandable words using the sounds of an extended burp - I think I can also question whether that should be called 'vocal.' Or does voice include all oral sounds, and 'vocal cords' is just a common but not exclusive part of that?
They did some overdubs for this video though, you can hear there are several vocal tracks on the chorus. I'd like to hear the "raw" version of this session.
I believe on The Charismatic Voice Channel, opera singer Elizabeth Zharoff persuaded Will Ramos from Lorna Shore to have a camera inserted into his throat while he performed growls to show what is actually going on in his throat. You might find that of interest to watch in your spare time! Great reaction by the way! Stay safe 🤘 ✌️
🤣🤣🤣 Well, it is her voice! And no, never ever was there anyone not getting fooled by that perfect trap in composition, singing and musicianship! You might love to watch her vocal one-take of "Judgement and Punishment". "Wallflower" may be nice for you to listen to and "I speak astronomy", Tatiana`s only love song (kind of...) 🙂🤘
The best overview of what she's doing IMO is The Fairy Voice Mother's reaction to Pisces after she spits up her tea in surprise. A very actionable toutorial on the technique is when ahe reacts to Electric Callboy's song Hypa Hypa with a friend and gives her friend a quick tutorial. Perennial live at Wacken is usually the next step to see Jinjer do their thing on stage, and with faster switching too. On The Top live in Kiev (now Kyiv) has a lot of great belting too. The one-take vocal video for Judgement & Punishment is great too. The most vocal tricks in a single performance is Sit Stay Roll Over live in Melbourne but that's one of their harder songs. Subbed. Cheers!
OMG, The Fairy Voice Mother's reaction is one of the best reactions I have seen for this video. I saw it coming the second she took a sip right at the first transition.
Lol, when she lifted up her cup to have a taste, I was like, "Do you have to do that NOWWWWWWW???" But inside I was like, "Ooooooh, yessss. Go for it, girl! This is gonna be awesome unforgettable content!" And she did NOT disappoint! 😂😂😂😂
They are from Donetsk in eastern Ukraine, where the fighting started in 2014. Tatiana is mostly self taught. Some of her influences are Gwen Stefani for the clean vocals, and for the harsh, Otep and Randy Blythe (Lamb of God). This is an older song, redone in this live session to showcase Vlad on drums, who had joined not long before this. But it went viral because of her vocals. He is classically trained on piano and self taught on drums. He ,Roman (guitar), and Eugene (bass) are all awesome musicians. The guys write the music, and Tatiana writes most of the lyrics. The song is referencing the astrological sign ,Pisces. Tati is a Pisces, she wrote the lyrics with a little help from Eugene(also a Pisces). When the current fighting started, the guys were stuck in Kiev, but were allowed to leave last summer to tour and be ambassadors for Ukraine. The usual next step for this band is to see her do it live with either Perennial live at Wacken 2019. Pit of Consciousness live in Kiev is good too.
Love you face reactions !!! Welcome to Jinjer !!! Each band member is AMAZING !!!! and YES that is her voice aka Queen/Beast mode Tatiana !!! Vlad on Drums, Roman on Guitar and Eugene on Bass.... I listen to them everyday !!!! My favorite group !!!!
Her performance and conviction she displays is super human!! The whole band is incredible!! I'm in Houston and they are coming at the end of this month..I haven't seen a concert in 30 years and this band brought me back out..Love 💕 then!!
Can’t wait to see them on 8/2 for the second time in less than a year! I had only been aware of them about three weeks when i first saw them, and i was completely blown away. Now i know their music better, and I’m pumped! I’m glad i picked a headlining show rather than one opening for Disturbed. More Jinjer!! Jinjer rules!!
I'm 61 years old, and this is NOT "my kind of music," but I put this one on my playlist. If you want to know how she does it, The Charismatic Voice channel has a couple of videos where she learns how to growl.
Also, the Fairy Voice Mother reacts to this and explains what Tatiana is doing with her vocal track to accomplish this. Tatiana is self taught. Her Tea Time Interview with The Charismatic Voice is a good one to watch. Jinjer is from eastern Ukraine but had to relocate to western Ukraine after the violence broke out in 2013. What Putin's invasion in 2022 is doing to their country is deepening the wound. They speak to this in their song Home Back.
All music is my kind of music - except off course for absolute rubbish (like most of today's stuff). I always attempt to fathom the motivation behind the music and especially the words. That is who Leonard Cohen is the absolute pinnacle of music expression to me. BUT this is high on my list as well.
Tjere's a bit of post prod on the video but the growls are 100% Tatiana and she does switch that fast (if you wish to check out more, a popular one is Perennial live at Wacken). Judgement and Punishment one take is a great one to watch her larynx and placement. The whole band is super talented and creative, great musicianship all around
Agree on Perennial especially for vocal coaches and singers. Proves she can do it live, shows her ability to switch even mid line, and shows a lot of her range and breath control
I agree. She has said that she will never attempt that in concert, because it was so difficult she's afraid she would mess it up. But, I have seen them since, and she has gotten even better. Perhaps something like that would be easier for her now.
I loved your reaction, there are a lot of classically trained singers on RUclips who have reacted in a similar way. I am 63 and this band just speaks to me. You never know what you are going to get in a Jinjer song a lot of time it is a thrill ride. A lot of Jinjer songs use jazz as a foundation.
Cheers from another rocker born a while back, 1962 in my case. Jinjer has been my gateway drug to harsh vocals, but nobody does it like Tatiana. I hope you have a chance to see ‘em live, they rule. I saw Rush 36x in concert, and Jinjer is at that level Live.
Yay! Another Jinjer Pisces reaction that I hadn't seen :) Me and a few others make a hobby of watching reactions to this song :) A few tidbits I've learned about Tatiana and the band: "Heavy Vocals" a.k.a. the growl utilises a different part of the throat - the part that we use to make a heave sound. It took Tatiana 12 years to train her growl this way. But this is how she can switch cleanly between the two styles. Another bit of info: This video was made to highlight their new drummer, who has had no formal training in drums - he is a classically trained pianist who taught himself so he could play in Jinjer. A great one to prove she's actually making that noise is Perennial Live at Wacken. Welcome to Jinjer!
Great reaction. Tati has an amazing voice. The entire band is Top Notch. My favorite band for over 2 years now, of all time. I will be seeing them Aug. 12, locally, in Syracuse, NY...
Tatiana's voice is always beautiful! It is amazing how she drifts in and out of the different singing modes... Especially the ending is super impressive. I've seen probably around 50 reactions to this song and it never gets old... This song is like hand crafted for reaction channels.
Hey Jules, I love your reaction and you are certainly not the first person to be shocked by the transition into the chorus. I've been a musician since I was a young child and I've played in multiple bands in several genres over the decades, but I also was not into metal music with scream/growl harsh vocals until I discovered Jinjer near the end of 2021. I immediately loved them because of their sophisticated songwriting, fantastic musicianship and the vocals of Tatiana, with her incredible ability to instantly transition back and forth from her beautiful clean singing voice to some of the best harsh vocals I've heard, female or male. She taught herself how to do the harsh vocals, but according to several reputable RUclips vocal coaches, she uses proper technique with use of her false vocal cords, preventing damage to her true vocal cords (Elizabeth Zharoff from The Charismatic Voice channel did a great long interview with Tatiana about a year and a half ago that's available on her channel). I'd also recommend checking out the "live from Wacken 2019" video for their song Perennial (which really shows Tatiana's ability in a concert setting), the official video for Wallflower (the first half of the song has a very cool "jazz-like" groove which gradually builds up to a big finish and the video is awesome) and Tatiana's "live one-take vocal performance" video of their song Judgement and Punishment (the music has a mix of reggae and metal sections and Tatiana's vocals are fantastic).
Every Jinger song is different. Tatiana is captivating and her vocal translations are seamless. Its mindboggling. She worked extremely hard to find a healthy way to achieve the harsh vocals /grawls. Part of that involves the false vocal cords. Jinger is awesome. They use that mix of beautiful clean vocals and harsh vocals/grawls to tell a story. The harsh vocals have a purpose such as emotional context beyond shock value. I really recommend Teacher Teacher official video, Perennial live at Wacken and Judgement and Punishment Tatiana's one take vocal performance version. I suggest pulling up lyrics to read through just before each Jinger song. Thier music is even better once you understand the meaning behind the lyrics.
Tatiana is using her upper throat for the "Growls". She is self taught in the technique. If she was using her vocal cords she would blow her voice out. So using her upper throat allows her instantly switch between.
Theres alot of reaction to this tune I think it's because it's so well put together, and her voice is beautiful, if you read the lyrics you'll appreciate it even more great stuff
Hi there Jules!!! This is my first time visiting your channel. I have a heads up for you. Once the drummer switches to rim-shots -- business is about to pick up!! You'll see & hear!! Tatiana is one heck of a vocalist!! In my head and opinion this group is the best thing to ever come out of the former U.S.S.R. They are from Ukraine. There is a RUclips video of her putting her stage makeup on. I watched it so I could hear her speak. She taught herself how to do this!! Some call her the Queen of Scream!! Thanks
You found the Jinjer rabbit hole. Strap in and have tea with the mad hatter because this hole goes deep. Seen them live twice. They CRUSH! Great sound, better than studio, and they are totally perfectionist professionals.
Hey Jules, love your channel and the reaction to Tati, she is a Vocal Beast, that's for sure. This was my first foray into the world of "growling" and while I don't understand it completely I have become aware that there are good and bad methods. Tatiana (here) and Floor (Nightwish, "Yours Is An Empty Hope" and before she joined them) both do the growls with precision and great skill. Julia Nilon, who is a vocal teacher in Australia and has a channel on YT as well, did an entire show just on growling, and I believe she brought in Chase Carneson for additional support in the conversation. From what I understood, she is forcing a large quantity of air around her vocal folds, rather than the cords. There is little if any cord vibration happening during that process, which keeps her cords healthy.
Great video, with the perfect pause. I appreciate your interest even if it not for you. Tatiana uses a mix of false chord growls and fry scream. Jinjer also considers themselves to be progressive metalcore/ groove metal. They are so talented and honestly are some of the best in the business today. Be sure to check out "Perennial" live at Wacken, "Judgement and Punishment" one take, and "Teacher, Teacher". They blend grooves and genres effortlessly. Hope to see more soon
@TheMC's - You know that all of us Jinjer fans were smiling on the outside, laughing on the inside at the way you were lulled into Tatiana serenity mode...you first timers never cease to amuse!! I too work with Opera singers, so when I show them this video...I get the same reaction!! 🤘❤🤟❤🤙
All right, the fish got hooked! "Pieces" is just a bait, after which it is impossible not to fall in love with this band and forget it. There will be more to come!))))
Probably the best honest and sincere reaction to this I've seen. You didn't overreact when she started screaming, but you can see your obvious surprise.
The type of vocals she was doing is typically called harsh vocals, gutturals or growling... I normally listen to harder and more extreme subgenres such as death metal, which is 100% growling vocals but I found Jinjer to be awesome! Especially how effortless she makes the switching back and forth between the clean and harsh/growls.
I love it. There is the shock of the growl part, and then there is the shock of realizing it is Tati doing all of it :). Welcome to the Jinjer Army. Highly suggest Perennial (Live at Wacken), Pit of Consciousness (Live at Kiev), and Judgement and Punishment (One Take) as next reactions if going down the Jinjer rabbit hole.
Tatiana has mastered the false-fold scream, so, no, her voice doesn't hurt because she's using completely different mechanisms to sing and scream. It's why she frequently switches instantly between the two with no strain or fatigue.
I’ve done that kind of voice for decades(growling). The best way I can describe how to do it is start small. Make what I call grunting noises that you often times hear in this type of music. Make sounds like Rah or Roh(O sounds are the easiest), almost kind of like a dog bark. Try to get as low of a tone that you can achieve using your false vocal chords. Once you’ve become more comfortable and accustomed with doing that and have already achieved the desired sound, then you can mess around with trying to articulate words. Be cautious when doing this though, if it tickles or hurts when attempting it you are more than likely doing it wrong and could potentially hurt your vocal chords. It came pretty naturally to me as I’m very passionate about this type of music.
Hi, I am glad you want to know more about it. Also, for what it is worth Tatiana is growl singing not doing screamo. A very basic way to start is do warm ups first, very important. Then growl gently like a dog. Gradually do it stronger to be loude enough so that others will be able to hear you if you did it instead of talking. Then talk while doing it. Do not push yourself too much, or you can cause damage. Your vocal chords should never hurt or feel stressed. As when doing a performance at full volume with no mic's you should not push yourself into pain or uncomfortable sensations. Like when doing any new physical workout you will need to have a recovery time after before you do it again to avoid any unpleasantness.
You’ve found the best band of all time. Literally the best drummer of all time. The bass player is in my top 3. Top 3 guitar player as well. Cap it all off with a singer who’s range and lyrics are unmatched. Tati Roman Eugene and Vlad are a humble supergroup. In my opinion some of the songs they’ve written if they got played on mainstream radio we’d have a revolution in music like Nirvana did in the 90s.
Tatiana is using her Vestibular folds (false chords) to produce the low screams/growls you are hearing in the video. Other vocalists use that as well as what is called a fry scream. To answer your other question. Yes that is 100% her. She is mostly self taught. The rest of the band is also extremely tight and talented. The drummer is pretty much so, the only member with any formal musical training. As he (Vlad) is a classic trained pianist. The band as a whole are from the Donbas region in Ukraine.
I wouldn't try to teach someone that personally because though I know how it works it's not something I did when I played and sang. It's an extremely difficult technique to learn and if it isn't done right it can really mess up your voice. Tatiana has been doing it for about 16 years now. It uses the "false chords" which extend above the actual vocal chords in order to keep food from going down the wrong way when you swallow. Singers who do this technique learn to control those otherwise involuntary muscles to make sound. There is no pitch it's just a broadband noise that they then have to filter using their mouth and tongue and create resonances inside their vocal system (similar to a filter on a synthesizer or a trumpet player using a mute). In fact part of the technique for getting that low with it is to roll your tongue back in your mouth to let the sound bounce around inside before it makes it out. You can tell she's doing it when she does the lyrics "one being brings life" because it sounds like "one Bying brongs life". Roll your tongue back in your mouth and try to say things you'll see what I mean. They can switch back and forth between clean vocals and that because it's actually two different physical structures producing the sound. Having said that Tatiana is known for her ability to switch back and forth between the two seamlessly. Everyone who does this technique sounds different because it's biology. Not quite like buying all the equipment your favorite guitar player has and learning their style and duplicating their sound. I think you would like their videos Judgement and Punishment One Take Vocal and Perennial Live at Wacken Open Air if you want to hear more.
Tatiana's voice is a beautifule, exciting roller coaster..... try Teacher, Teacher, I Speak Astronomy and Judgement & Punishment(single take).......there are alot but those are accessible and show a lot of the breadth...
im pretty sure that she changes her growl voice to soft singing voice the same way you change you opera voice to normal talking voice and for most people operatic voice is just as surprising technique-vise as Tatiana`s growl voice.
"I'm going to pause it just for a bit, now that I know what's happening". Probably one of the best reaction lines ever, just before Tatiana sends their brain spinning!! Great reaction!
Yup!
Me: gets the popcorn ready 😁
it just never gets old lol
always right before the freighttrain hits too
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tfw u pause and check the comments and find someone has already posted what you wanted to say :D
That is Tatiana. And yes, it's her voice. Jinjer is another rabbit hole worth exploring.
Is it really her voice, though, in the growls? It does not come from the vocal cords. It is a vibration of the throat sides away from the vocal cords. Is it enough that the growls are being shaped by the mouth into words? I have heard people who can make understandable words using the sounds of an extended burp - I think I can also question whether that should be called 'vocal.' Or does voice include all oral sounds, and 'vocal cords' is just a common but not exclusive part of that?
@@thomasmacdiarmid8251it's called fry vocals hard to do correctly and if not done correctly it will destroy your vocal cords
They did some overdubs for this video though, you can hear there are several vocal tracks on the chorus. I'd like to hear the "raw" version of this session.
@@petrilampela this is true and i heard tati atleast regrets putting live session in the title for that reason. this is an edited video.
I believe on The Charismatic Voice Channel, opera singer Elizabeth Zharoff persuaded Will Ramos from Lorna Shore to have a camera inserted into his throat while he performed growls to show what is actually going on in his throat. You might find that of interest to watch in your spare time! Great reaction by the way! Stay safe 🤘 ✌️
Thats probably a lot of words she doesnt know, lol.
That's correct. Elizabeth also interviewed Tatiana.
'Don't rely on me and I won't deceive' is such a great line. A perfect disclaimer.
Lmao ahhahaaha
🤣🤣🤣 Well, it is her voice! And no, never ever was there anyone not getting fooled by that perfect trap in composition, singing and musicianship!
You might love to watch her vocal one-take of "Judgement and Punishment". "Wallflower" may be nice for you to listen to and "I speak astronomy", Tatiana`s only love song (kind of...)
🙂🤘
The Fairy Voice Mother has a really good reaction to this one, and she explains how Tati is doing what she is doing with her voice.
A good follow-up song is "Perennial" live from Wacken 2019.
yes
Welcome to Jinjer! I hope you continue with this amazing band, every song is different but they are all amazing! Great Reaction!
The best overview of what she's doing IMO is The Fairy Voice Mother's reaction to Pisces after she spits up her tea in surprise. A very actionable toutorial on the technique is when ahe reacts to Electric Callboy's song Hypa Hypa with a friend and gives her friend a quick tutorial. Perennial live at Wacken is usually the next step to see Jinjer do their thing on stage, and with faster switching too. On The Top live in Kiev (now Kyiv) has a lot of great belting too. The one-take vocal video for Judgement & Punishment is great too. The most vocal tricks in a single performance is Sit Stay Roll Over live in Melbourne but that's one of their harder songs. Subbed. Cheers!
Video links for anyone that wants them
Vocal Coach Reacts (1st time) JINJER - Pisces (Live Session) +Technical Analysis, Explanation & Demo ruclips.net/video/qWUUrdQfjn8/видео.html
Vocal Coach & Singer React to ELECTRIC CALLBOY - 'HYPA HYPA' ruclips.net/video/2c0CYGPXNE8/видео.html
@@sunshaker01 you rock!
OMG, The Fairy Voice Mother's reaction is one of the best reactions I have seen for this video. I saw it coming the second she took a sip right at the first transition.
Mary Z's VoiceHacks channel has some explanations of harsh vocal methods too.
Lol, when she lifted up her cup to have a taste, I was like, "Do you have to do that NOWWWWWWW???"
But inside I was like, "Ooooooh, yessss. Go for it, girl! This is gonna be awesome unforgettable content!"
And she did NOT disappoint! 😂😂😂😂
They are from Donetsk in eastern Ukraine, where the fighting started in 2014. Tatiana is mostly self taught. Some of her influences are Gwen Stefani for the clean vocals, and for the harsh, Otep and Randy Blythe (Lamb of God). This is an older song, redone in this live session to showcase Vlad on drums, who had joined not long before this. But it went viral because of her vocals. He is classically trained on piano and self taught on drums. He ,Roman (guitar), and Eugene (bass) are all awesome musicians. The guys write the music, and Tatiana writes most of the lyrics. The song is referencing the astrological sign ,Pisces. Tati is a Pisces, she wrote the lyrics with a little help from Eugene(also a Pisces). When the current fighting started, the guys were stuck in Kiev, but were allowed to leave last summer to tour and be ambassadors for Ukraine. The usual next step for this band is to see her do it live with either Perennial live at Wacken 2019. Pit of Consciousness live in Kiev is good too.
Love you face reactions !!! Welcome to Jinjer !!! Each band member is AMAZING !!!! and YES that is her voice aka Queen/Beast mode Tatiana !!! Vlad on Drums, Roman on Guitar and Eugene on Bass.... I listen to them everyday !!!! My favorite group !!!!
Her performance and conviction she displays is super human!! The whole band is incredible!! I'm in Houston and they are coming at the end of this month..I haven't seen a concert in 30 years and this band brought me back out..Love 💕 then!!
You're gonna enjoy the show. Saw them twice...they don't miss. Perfect from beginning to end, sounds better than studio.
Can’t wait to see them on 8/2 for the second time in less than a year! I had only been aware of them about three weeks when i first saw them, and i was completely blown away. Now i know their music better, and I’m pumped! I’m glad i picked a headlining show rather than one opening for Disturbed. More Jinjer!! Jinjer rules!!
I'm 61 years old, and this is NOT "my kind of music," but I put this one on my playlist.
If you want to know how she does it, The Charismatic Voice channel has a couple of videos where she learns how to growl.
Also, the Fairy Voice Mother reacts to this and explains what Tatiana is doing with her vocal track to accomplish this. Tatiana is self taught. Her Tea Time Interview with The Charismatic Voice is a good one to watch. Jinjer is from eastern Ukraine but had to relocate to western Ukraine after the violence broke out in 2013. What Putin's invasion in 2022 is doing to their country is deepening the wound. They speak to this in their song Home Back.
All music is my kind of music - except off course for absolute rubbish (like most of today's stuff). I always attempt to fathom the motivation behind the music and especially the words. That is who Leonard Cohen is the absolute pinnacle of music expression to me. BUT this is high on my list as well.
I'm 50 and this is very much my kind of music.
when i feel awful and bad, i always watch reaction to pisces by jiner - always cheers me up
Same. A daily not-so-guilty pleasure.
Jinjer shines in their live performances. I recommend "Perennial" live at Wacken for a follow up reaction. Good reaction. (Subbed)
Tjere's a bit of post prod on the video but the growls are 100% Tatiana and she does switch that fast (if you wish to check out more, a popular one is Perennial live at Wacken). Judgement and Punishment one take is a great one to watch her larynx and placement. The whole band is super talented and creative, great musicianship all around
Agree on Perennial especially for vocal coaches and singers. Proves she can do it live, shows her ability to switch even mid line, and shows a lot of her range and breath control
I love these Jinjer reaction videos where they say, “I have no idea what to expect.” No.
No you don’t. 🤘😝🤘
“I wasn’t expecting that” is the most popular comment after the first chorus lol. Never gets old.
the transition from, "soft rock" and "this is relaxing" to "no this is metal" and "I'm scared" is amazing.
Tatiana is absolutely amazing. Especially when she hits the high screams toward the end.
I agree. She has said that she will never attempt that in concert, because it was so difficult she's afraid she would mess it up. But, I have seen them since, and she has gotten even better. Perhaps something like that would be easier for her now.
I loved your reaction, there are a lot of classically trained singers on RUclips who have reacted in a similar way. I am 63 and this band just speaks to me. You never know what you are going to get in a Jinjer song a lot of time it is a thrill ride. A lot of Jinjer songs use jazz as a foundation.
Cheers from another rocker born a while back, 1962 in my case. Jinjer has been my gateway drug to harsh vocals, but nobody does it like Tatiana. I hope you have a chance to see ‘em live, they rule. I saw Rush 36x in concert, and Jinjer is at that level Live.
Great reaction , i enjoy it, as i enjoy the music of these skilled Ukrainian musicians, greets!!
Thank you very much!
Yay! Another Jinjer Pisces reaction that I hadn't seen :) Me and a few others make a hobby of watching reactions to this song :) A few tidbits I've learned about Tatiana and the band: "Heavy Vocals" a.k.a. the growl utilises a different part of the throat - the part that we use to make a heave sound. It took Tatiana 12 years to train her growl this way. But this is how she can switch cleanly between the two styles. Another bit of info: This video was made to highlight their new drummer, who has had no formal training in drums - he is a classically trained pianist who taught himself so he could play in Jinjer. A great one to prove she's actually making that noise is Perennial Live at Wacken. Welcome to Jinjer!
Great reaction. Tati has an amazing voice. The entire band is Top Notch. My favorite band for over 2 years now, of all time. I will be seeing them Aug. 12, locally, in Syracuse, NY...
Seeing them in less than one month, very excited for it.
let me know how it goes.. im jealous
The Jinjer rock'n rollercoaster journey has started!
Tatiana's voice is always beautiful! It is amazing how she drifts in and out of the different singing modes... Especially the ending is super impressive. I've seen probably around 50 reactions to this song and it never gets old... This song is like hand crafted for reaction channels.
According to Tatiana, she developed the ability to sound like that by yelling at people in traffic! 😯 Thanks for the reaction!
Tatiana gives me the chills, voice of an angel and growls of a demon. Love this band.
Hey Jules, I love your reaction and you are certainly not the first person to be shocked by the transition into the chorus. I've been a musician since I was a young child and I've played in multiple bands in several genres over the decades, but I also was not into metal music with scream/growl harsh vocals until I discovered Jinjer near the end of 2021. I immediately loved them because of their sophisticated songwriting, fantastic musicianship and the vocals of Tatiana, with her incredible ability to instantly transition back and forth from her beautiful clean singing voice to some of the best harsh vocals I've heard, female or male. She taught herself how to do the harsh vocals, but according to several reputable RUclips vocal coaches, she uses proper technique with use of her false vocal cords, preventing damage to her true vocal cords (Elizabeth Zharoff from The Charismatic Voice channel did a great long interview with Tatiana about a year and a half ago that's available on her channel). I'd also recommend checking out the "live from Wacken 2019" video for their song Perennial (which really shows Tatiana's ability in a concert setting), the official video for Wallflower (the first half of the song has a very cool "jazz-like" groove which gradually builds up to a big finish and the video is awesome) and Tatiana's "live one-take vocal performance" video of their song Judgement and Punishment (the music has a mix of reggae and metal sections and Tatiana's vocals are fantastic).
Same, bro. What a special band, eh? This is one of the great rock bands of all time. Unironically lol as the kids say!
"Now that I know what's happening." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHATETETETETETETETETETETETTETETEHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHH! Lovely Jules!
Jinjer is their own genre. You’ll see. Buckle up.
I watched Aliki Katriou's video on how to do false vocal fold screams and I picked up on it immediately; definitely worth a watch!
Oooooh!
A new Jinjer react video!
BRING THE POPCORN!!!
😂
She is so Gorgeous and that sound comes out and blows my mind everytime I hear it
"Now that I know what's happening"..famous last words
Perennial Live at Wacken should be your next vid of Jinjer...i got to see them twice live. Man what a show.
Seeing people react in jinjer - pisces is my hobby now
“Aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh….” Greatest way to explain it. Enjoy!
Every Jinger song is different. Tatiana is captivating and her vocal translations are seamless. Its mindboggling. She worked extremely hard to find a healthy way to achieve the harsh vocals /grawls.
Part of that involves the false vocal cords.
Jinger is awesome. They use that mix of beautiful clean vocals and harsh vocals/grawls to tell a story. The harsh vocals have a purpose such as emotional context beyond shock value.
I really recommend Teacher Teacher official video, Perennial live at Wacken and Judgement and Punishment Tatiana's one take vocal performance version.
I suggest pulling up lyrics to read through just before each Jinger song. Thier music is even better once you understand the meaning behind the lyrics.
A totally authentic reaction, I could tell by your body language. Tati is a special talent and the band super!
"I'm going to pause right here now that I know what's happening" hahaha I love this :D
Please don't think I am being disrespectful, buy after watching DOZENS of Jinjer reactions, you nailed every pause and comment perfectly 😅❤
HAHAH that was the best place to pause early on before the growls xD amazing
Tatiana starts growling alway has that "gotcha bitch!" moment :D
Tatiana Booyakah❤ has been keeping her voice healthy for over 15 years singing with Jinjer
please as a singer... i hope you look into her as a whole. you probably already have , glad to see your reaction.
Love your reactions!! Especially comment about period!, I laugh in understanding. Ty - J ❤
MORE JINJER!!!
FOR SURE!
I think its the relaxation of the vocal cords that gives it that vibration ,its something that she trained herself to do
Welcome to Jinjer, enjoy the ride
Like I always say welcome to the jinjer army you will never be disappointed 🤘
Harsh vocals do not hurt when done properly 🙂 actually feels amazing to do
ha ha ha, and yes, yup, that's exactly right! Tatiana is well..... she's Tatiana!
Welcome to Jinjer. That's all her. Perennial live at Wacken shows her talent well
I sent this to a friend of mine once.
He said he was thinking that "oh she has a lovely voice, very calming.... Oh my god, Satan lives inside her!!!"
Tatiana is using her upper throat for the "Growls". She is self taught in the technique. If she was using her vocal cords she would blow her voice out.
So using her upper throat allows her instantly switch between.
She got all of us the first time. 😂
To me she's the baddest female vocalist to ever walk this planet.
Perennial waken 2019 is a good follow-up
Reactors always say they are scared and 2 weeks the somersault into that Jinjer rabbit hole. Welcome to Tati!
1:37 Jukes: "I'm gonna pause it just for a bit now that I know what's happening..."
Everyone else: Ohhhhh no - no you don't know! 😄
Theres alot of reaction to this tune I think it's because it's so well put together, and her voice is beautiful, if you read the lyrics you'll appreciate it even more great stuff
Your reaction is as real as it gets...
I love them lyrics
SCALE ARMOUR B LAZE
Hi there Jules!!! This is my first time visiting your channel. I have a heads up for you. Once the drummer switches to rim-shots -- business is about to pick up!! You'll see & hear!! Tatiana is one heck of a vocalist!! In my head and opinion this group is the best thing to ever come out of the former U.S.S.R. They are from Ukraine. There is a RUclips video of her putting her stage makeup on. I watched it so I could hear her speak. She taught herself how to do this!! Some call her the Queen of Scream!! Thanks
I love her so much. I was so sad that I missed her in Raleigh b/c of weather Monday night :( Hoping for a reschedule!
You found the Jinjer rabbit hole.
Strap in and have tea with the mad hatter because this hole goes deep.
Seen them live twice. They CRUSH! Great sound, better than studio, and they are totally perfectionist professionals.
Next Perennial live @ Wacken! :)
Hey Jules, love your channel and the reaction to Tati, she is a Vocal Beast, that's for sure. This was my first foray into the world of "growling" and while I don't understand it completely I have become aware that there are good and bad methods. Tatiana (here) and Floor (Nightwish, "Yours Is An Empty Hope" and before she joined them) both do the growls with precision and great skill. Julia Nilon, who is a vocal teacher in Australia and has a channel on YT as well, did an entire show just on growling, and I believe she brought in Chase Carneson for additional support in the conversation. From what I understood, she is forcing a large quantity of air around her vocal folds, rather than the cords. There is little if any cord vibration happening during that process, which keeps her cords healthy.
Jinjer is from Ukraine and every member is an exceptional musician. They are Roman on guitar, Vlad on drums, Eugene on bass, and Tatiana on vocals.
This never gets old...lol
finally getting to see them live in a couple weeks, cant wait.
Great video, with the perfect pause. I appreciate your interest even if it not for you. Tatiana uses a mix of false chord growls and fry scream. Jinjer also considers themselves to be progressive metalcore/ groove metal. They are so talented and honestly are some of the best in the business today. Be sure to check out "Perennial" live at Wacken, "Judgement and Punishment" one take, and "Teacher, Teacher". They blend grooves and genres effortlessly. Hope to see more soon
It's so relaxing and chill... then... yeah it never gets old
that was so fun you watching your brain tryin to wonder were to GO haaaa haaaa welcome to the FAMILY
I am seeing them live in August...I can't wait, and i was never a big fan of growls and sreams before I found this band.
@TheMC's - You know that all of us Jinjer fans were smiling on the outside, laughing on the inside at the way you were lulled into Tatiana serenity mode...you first timers never cease to amuse!! I too work with Opera singers, so when I show them this video...I get the same reaction!! 🤘❤🤟❤🤙
Tatiana is a vocal beast ! Fucking awesome !
All right, the fish got hooked! "Pieces" is just a bait, after which it is impossible not to fall in love with this band and forget it. There will be more to come!))))
Probably the best honest and sincere reaction to this I've seen. You didn't overreact when she started screaming, but you can see your obvious surprise.
The type of vocals she was doing is typically called harsh vocals, gutturals or growling... I normally listen to harder and more extreme subgenres such as death metal, which is 100% growling vocals but I found Jinjer to be awesome! Especially how effortless she makes the switching back and forth between the clean and harsh/growls.
This is the reaction I came here for!!! 🤣
awww thank you!
I love it. There is the shock of the growl part, and then there is the shock of realizing it is Tati doing all of it :). Welcome to the Jinjer Army. Highly suggest Perennial (Live at Wacken), Pit of Consciousness (Live at Kiev), and Judgement and Punishment (One Take) as next reactions if going down the Jinjer rabbit hole.
"Now that I know what's happening...." 😂
Way to own it. I love it
Tatiana has mastered the false-fold scream, so, no, her voice doesn't hurt because she's using completely different mechanisms to sing and scream. It's why she frequently switches instantly between the two with no strain or fatigue.
Tatiana blows another mind🤣
Never. Gets. Old! Tatiana is on a whole other Level…
I’ve done that kind of voice for decades(growling). The best way I can describe how to do it is start small. Make what I call grunting noises that you often times hear in this type of music. Make sounds like Rah or Roh(O sounds are the easiest), almost kind of like a dog bark. Try to get as low of a tone that you can achieve using your false vocal chords. Once you’ve become more comfortable and accustomed with doing that and have already achieved the desired sound, then you can mess around with trying to articulate words. Be cautious when doing this though, if it tickles or hurts when attempting it you are more than likely doing it wrong and could potentially hurt your vocal chords. It came pretty naturally to me as I’m very passionate about this type of music.
Hi, I am glad you want to know more about it. Also, for what it is worth Tatiana is growl singing not doing screamo.
A very basic way to start is do warm ups first, very important.
Then growl gently like a dog. Gradually do it stronger to be loude enough so that others will be able to hear you if you did it instead of talking.
Then talk while doing it.
Do not push yourself too much, or you can cause damage.
Your vocal chords should never hurt or feel stressed. As when doing a performance at full volume with no mic's you should not push yourself into pain or uncomfortable sensations. Like when doing any new physical workout you will need to have a recovery time after before you do it again to avoid any unpleasantness.
You’ve found the best band of all time. Literally the best drummer of all time. The bass player is in my top 3. Top 3 guitar player as well. Cap it all off with a singer who’s range and lyrics are unmatched. Tati Roman Eugene and Vlad are a humble supergroup. In my opinion some of the songs they’ve written if they got played on mainstream radio we’d have a revolution in music like Nirvana did in the 90s.
First time jinjer is the best 🎉😂❤best next stop parennial live at wacken 2019 🎉
So much talent on display unbelievable
Not sure how that growl comes out of that tiny person lol... but I love it
Tatiana is using her Vestibular folds (false chords) to produce the low screams/growls you are hearing in the video. Other vocalists use that as well as what is called a fry scream.
To answer your other question. Yes that is 100% her. She is mostly self taught. The rest of the band is also extremely tight and talented. The drummer is pretty much so, the only member with any formal musical training. As he (Vlad) is a classic trained pianist. The band as a whole are from the Donbas region in Ukraine.
I wouldn't try to teach someone that personally because though I know how it works it's not something I did when I played and sang. It's an extremely difficult technique to learn and if it isn't done right it can really mess up your voice. Tatiana has been doing it for about 16 years now. It uses the "false chords" which extend above the actual vocal chords in order to keep food from going down the wrong way when you swallow. Singers who do this technique learn to control those otherwise involuntary muscles to make sound. There is no pitch it's just a broadband noise that they then have to filter using their mouth and tongue and create resonances inside their vocal system (similar to a filter on a synthesizer or a trumpet player using a mute). In fact part of the technique for getting that low with it is to roll your tongue back in your mouth to let the sound bounce around inside before it makes it out. You can tell she's doing it when she does the lyrics "one being brings life" because it sounds like "one Bying brongs life". Roll your tongue back in your mouth and try to say things you'll see what I mean.
They can switch back and forth between clean vocals and that because it's actually two different physical structures producing the sound. Having said that Tatiana is known for her ability to switch back and forth between the two seamlessly. Everyone who does this technique sounds different because it's biology. Not quite like buying all the equipment your favorite guitar player has and learning their style and duplicating their sound.
I think you would like their videos Judgement and Punishment One Take Vocal and Perennial Live at Wacken Open Air if you want to hear more.
She had no clue she was about to get punched in the face LOL 😂
Tatiana's voice is a beautifule, exciting roller coaster..... try Teacher, Teacher, I Speak Astronomy and Judgement & Punishment(single take).......there are alot but those are accessible and show a lot of the breadth...
I think it was Charismatic Voice that did an interview with her where she kind of explains the voice.
im pretty sure that she changes her growl voice to soft singing voice the same way you change you opera voice to normal talking voice and for most people operatic voice is just as surprising technique-vise as Tatiana`s growl voice.