It's magnetorheological, actually, and it was made by BWI in China, and you can't order the front shocks any more because the Chinese stopped making them and there are none in stock anywhere. They usually start leaking at around 40,000 miles, it's a factory defect. The rear ones will also leak but major auto parts chains still have some in stock.
I think they fixed the isolator issue for the 14-15 models. Though I will be checking for it on my 14 when it’s being built. I bought mine, a 2014 black zl1/m6 with 23k miles for $41.5 in January 2024. No regrets. The first year I had to make it look right. Now I’m gathering parts to make it faster. As far as competitive goes, I believe it’s the gearing that’s outdated. The 8-10 speed automatic will kill us every time. But the build ability is there with this car. It has great brakes, and suspension. Can fit decent tires under it. Corners very well. And the sky is the limit with power. And it looks amazing no matter the year. I agreed at first, I liked your tail lights better. And I still hate my trunk. Hate. But my spoiler covers it and I feel I’ve made my car look savage. Great video bro, enjoy that zl1 life
GM claims that it doesn’t affect 14/15 model years however they still used a spring loaded isolator for those years. I believe I read somewhere that their “fix” was to just pack more grease lol. I have heard of 14/15 owners still having issues. And I agree, the gearing for sure makes a difference. Those 10 speeds are no joke! Appreciate you watching!!!
@@CarlosFlores-xf2sn I owned a Pontiac G8 and saw someone swap a 10 speed in it so I do believe it’s possible. Just gonna cost a lot of money and time lol
It's a hit-or-miss on the isolator coupling: GM would replace the entire unit but there was a 50% chance that the new one still had the "Cadillac" spring isolator coupling. The only way to really know is to dismount the intake, but that can only be done by shaving off about two mm off of the "nose" under the intake with a grinder... Hawks motorsports sells solid isolator couplings, or at least they used to, for $22 USD.
it’s totally worth it imo but I’m biased. A 2015 zl1 has been my dream car for years. I’m rocking a 2014 RS right now but hope to upgrade when I get the funds
I had the V6 5th Gen back in the day and use to dream about having this one lol! Im pretty well off now and may go buy one of these now! I typically hate red cars, but I wanted this one in red with the exact wheels you have on it. I remember the visibility being bad at first, but I got use to it. I had the little mirror added onto the side mirrors for the blind spots.
Beautiful car! The poor visibility is part of the driving experience! Those 4 lower gauges are from the 60’s Camaros. It’s not bad placement it’s heritage
Yes yes yes As a 6 gen camaro ss owner I had a 5th gen ss and always thought the 5th gen camaros were more muscle car than the 6 gen. You can get a decent price for one of these right now
Nice ride. After many years of German and Japanese sports cars I test drove the ZL1 and bought it immediately.. I have a 6th gen with the a10, wish I would have bought the 6spd, even if it’s a little slower.
@@frakplease3771 it's not actually, that's a myth, but even if it were, the automatic transmission is shittier, because one does not get to drive AT ALL: it's the firmware which in the end makes all of the decisions. So if you want to DRIVE instead of BE CHAUFFEURED while you only get to turn the wheel left-right and step on the brake pedal from time to time, you have to buy a manual transmission car, or rip out the automatics and replace them with a manual transmission. Driving is not a video game, nor is it supposed to be like when playing one!
Bro I'm might buy 1 exactly like urs. Black auto wanted Manuel but oh well it's a 1 owner only 20 thousand miles. I'm gona call a third party inspector to go inspector that zl1 4 me. Man the same here live the 5th gen over the 6th gen
@@severogonzaleziii5549 Nice bro! How much are they asking? Definitely get it inspected, and if the isolator hasn’t been swapped yet ask for a warranty cause then if that goes bad they’ll just probably replace the whole blower.
Asking 37 they were asking 41. They dropped it and yes will ask for the extended warranty because of that isolater issue I've seen right now I have my 2010 ss in the shop wit lots of mods stage 5 btr cam I'm just looking for a bone stock 1 and I've already tried the 2020 camaro ss 1le but I love these ls3 engines easier to work on. Well if make the deal ill pass u my # I'm in texas.
@@severogonzaleziii5549 Nice bro, hopefully you can get it for $37k. I bought mine back in August with 18k miles for $37k so you def should get near that.
Black ones are a nightmare to maintain, GM cheaped out on the paint as usual, as there is no clear coat and the paint scratches really easily; additionally, one can see even specks of dust on the Black ones.
@@AnnatarTheMaia Lol that’s completely false, it still has horsepower loss no matter if it’s FI or NA. A stock ZL1 at sea level would make more than a stock ZL1 at 6,000ft above sea level.
@@Tanner_Teves dude don't "lmfao" me; I have the "NAV" button in the upper right corner of the "MyLink" screen. 2013 versions and onwards have a touchscreen with a navigation system, Sirius XM, Bluetooth, et cetera, and the navigation system is usable on the entire North American continent. There is nothing wrong with it, just because it's from 2013, it works just fine. And no, I'm not writing about "turn by turn" navigation in the driver information center; that's yet another, separate subsystem.
@@Kenthetic now that's possible; I wouldn't know, as I sandwiched in an aftermarket navigation system from 2017 for Europe, which hijacks the capacitance touchscreen if I hold my finger on it for a few seconds; The North American, built-in navigation system is still present and works, but of course is completely lost on the European continent because it doesn't have any maps for it.
@@Tanner_Teves it’s not really a button I think (hope) they are talking about the navigation on the speedometer display. It’s like on the stalk that you use to traverse through the options
In the town I live in during our heritage festival they brought in a rear wheel Dino meter and a stock one a 2014 ZL1 put 450 horsepower at the rear wheels they're rated at 580 at the crank I seen it live and it wasn't one of the fake dyno test I can see on RUclips where they only lose like 50 horsepower at the rear wheels and there was a new ZL1 the 650 horse and that put out 510 horsepower at the rear Wheels so the 60 more horsepower it has at the rear wheels above the older ZL1 it lost 20 horsepower out of the 80 horsepower it has at the crank above the old ZL1 .
It's 589 HP (611 on the dynamometer, actually), and yes I'll flame you: the automatic is a complete and utter waste... shoulda bought the manual, it's a peach.
@@AnnatarTheMaia SAE rated is 580hp to the crank, Edmunds dyno’d it stock and it made 497whp which equates to around 584 crank hp…so really we’re splitting hairs here. GM states it’s 580hp so that’s what I said it was. Also, I’m sure the manual is way more fun, but there weren’t any in my area that were near the specs, price, and mileage that I was looking for. The automatic is still plenty fun for me, so idrc what anyone else says.
@@frakplease3771 no, it isn't. You ate the propaganda up. See, you have to understand how the whole thing works. It's not as trivial as you make it out to be.
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*As pointed out in the comments the 5th Gen ZL1 has the 3rd Gen of MagneRide, not the 1st as stated in the video*
It's magnetorheological, actually, and it was made by BWI in China, and you can't order the front shocks any more because the Chinese stopped making them and there are none in stock anywhere. They usually start leaking at around 40,000 miles, it's a factory defect. The rear ones will also leak but major auto parts chains still have some in stock.
I think they fixed the isolator issue for the 14-15 models. Though I will be checking for it on my 14 when it’s being built.
I bought mine, a 2014 black zl1/m6 with 23k miles for $41.5 in January 2024. No regrets.
The first year I had to make it look right. Now I’m gathering parts to make it faster.
As far as competitive goes, I believe it’s the gearing that’s outdated. The 8-10 speed automatic will kill us every time. But the build ability is there with this car. It has great brakes, and suspension. Can fit decent tires under it. Corners very well. And the sky is the limit with power.
And it looks amazing no matter the year. I agreed at first, I liked your tail lights better. And I still hate my trunk. Hate. But my spoiler covers it and I feel I’ve made my car look savage.
Great video bro, enjoy that zl1 life
GM claims that it doesn’t affect 14/15 model years however they still used a spring loaded isolator for those years. I believe I read somewhere that their “fix” was to just pack more grease lol. I have heard of 14/15 owners still having issues.
And I agree, the gearing for sure makes a difference. Those 10 speeds are no joke!
Appreciate you watching!!!
You think it’s possible to swap a new 8/9/10 gear tranny in one of these ?
@@CarlosFlores-xf2sn I owned a Pontiac G8 and saw someone swap a 10 speed in it so I do believe it’s possible. Just gonna cost a lot of money and time lol
It's a hit-or-miss on the isolator coupling: GM would replace the entire unit but there was a 50% chance that the new one still had the "Cadillac" spring isolator coupling. The only way to really know is to dismount the intake, but that can only be done by shaving off about two mm off of the "nose" under the intake with a grinder... Hawks motorsports sells solid isolator couplings, or at least they used to, for $22 USD.
got mine 2 yrs ago and I love it! I feel special whenever i drive this beast haha it's also a headturner and compliment getter 👍
it’s totally worth it imo but I’m biased. A 2015 zl1 has been my dream car for years. I’m rocking a 2014 RS right now but hope to upgrade when I get the funds
Yes very worth it, it’s fun every drive. I just got one and upgraded from an LT.
Shit looks sick bro, just subbed
Appreciate it bro!
Looks sharp and mean
The 2010 Camaro Ls is worth buying. And yes 2013 ZL1 is dope and worth buying.
Yo man this zl1 is dope. I have a 5th gen RS (v6) right now and I can’t decide if I wanna save up for a 2015 zl1 or a 2016 2ss.
I had the V6 5th Gen back in the day and use to dream about having this one lol! Im pretty well off now and may go buy one of these now! I typically hate red cars, but I wanted this one in red with the exact wheels you have on it. I remember the visibility being bad at first, but I got use to it. I had the little mirror added onto the side mirrors for the blind spots.
There are two Red's, a normal one and a deep candy Red. The rarest is metallic Silver.
Beautiful car! The poor visibility is part of the driving experience! Those 4 lower gauges are from the 60’s Camaros. It’s not bad placement it’s heritage
Great review 👍🏾
@@jestanhargrove8151 Thanks for watching!
Yes yes yes
As a 6 gen camaro ss owner
I had a 5th gen ss and always thought the 5th gen camaros were more muscle car than the 6 gen.
You can get a decent price for one of these right now
SS is pony, the ZL1 is a race track supercar in a pony car styling.
nice looking ride ...
Yea I already have a 5th Gen ZL1 LSA supercharged 580hp
That’s not first gen mag ride… it’s 3rd generation improving from the 2nd that the ctsv has
@@XxCrazedEvolutionXx You’re right, my bad on that!
5th gen is the best I miss my zl1 I am getting another one !
I hear u
Nice ride. After many years of German and Japanese sports cars I test drove the ZL1 and bought it immediately.. I have a 6th gen with the a10, wish I would have bought the 6spd, even if it’s a little slower.
Randy Pobst was faster in a 6th gen manual then he was in the automatic around the race track, so the manual is actually faster, not slower.
@ when and where was this. I’d like to see it
@@digitalgulby Willow Springs. Motortrend.
The auto is faster, despite cherry picking
@@frakplease3771 it's not actually, that's a myth, but even if it were, the automatic transmission is shittier, because one does not get to drive AT ALL: it's the firmware which in the end makes all of the decisions. So if you want to DRIVE instead of BE CHAUFFEURED while you only get to turn the wheel left-right and step on the brake pedal from time to time, you have to buy a manual transmission car, or rip out the automatics and replace them with a manual transmission. Driving is not a video game, nor is it supposed to be like when playing one!
Bro I'm might buy 1 exactly like urs. Black auto wanted Manuel but oh well it's a 1 owner only 20 thousand miles. I'm gona call a third party inspector to go inspector that zl1 4 me. Man the same here live the 5th gen over the 6th gen
@@severogonzaleziii5549 Nice bro! How much are they asking? Definitely get it inspected, and if the isolator hasn’t been swapped yet ask for a warranty cause then if that goes bad they’ll just probably replace the whole blower.
Asking 37 they were asking 41. They dropped it and yes will ask for the extended warranty because of that isolater issue I've seen right now I have my 2010 ss in the shop wit lots of mods stage 5 btr cam I'm just looking for a bone stock 1 and I've already tried the 2020 camaro ss 1le but I love these ls3 engines easier to work on. Well if make the deal ill pass u my # I'm in texas.
@@severogonzaleziii5549 Nice bro, hopefully you can get it for $37k. I bought mine back in August with 18k miles for $37k so you def should get near that.
Black ones are a nightmare to maintain, GM cheaped out on the paint as usual, as there is no clear coat and the paint scratches really easily; additionally, one can see even specks of dust on the Black ones.
Is ur surper charger upgraded there prone to fail therr replacing the isolater prone 2 fail
@@severogonzaleziii5549 Mine has a solid isolator, reinforced brick, and all new snout and case bearings
Don't steal my idea. You can idk but i want those particular wheels so bad for my ctsv. Paint them black and yellow just the ZL1 letters
You have forced induction so the elevation doesn't matter, FOR THE MOST PART.
@@AnnatarTheMaia Lol that’s completely false, it still has horsepower loss no matter if it’s FI or NA. A stock ZL1 at sea level would make more than a stock ZL1 at 6,000ft above sea level.
UM... Navigation is right on the "NAV" button... HELLO, anybody home?
I don’t think the nav works anymore because they were on a 3G network which GM cut off
I’m in the car right now…there is no nav button lol. Think you’re mistaking it for “Fav” for favorites lmfao.
@@Tanner_Teves dude don't "lmfao" me; I have the "NAV" button in the upper right corner of the "MyLink" screen. 2013 versions and onwards have a touchscreen with a navigation system, Sirius XM, Bluetooth, et cetera, and the navigation system is usable on the entire North American continent. There is nothing wrong with it, just because it's from 2013, it works just fine. And no, I'm not writing about "turn by turn" navigation in the driver information center; that's yet another, separate subsystem.
@@Kenthetic now that's possible; I wouldn't know, as I sandwiched in an aftermarket navigation system from 2017 for Europe, which hijacks the capacitance touchscreen if I hold my finger on it for a few seconds; The North American, built-in navigation system is still present and works, but of course is completely lost on the European continent because it doesn't have any maps for it.
@@Tanner_Teves it’s not really a button I think (hope) they are talking about the navigation on the speedometer display. It’s like on the stalk that you use to traverse through the options
In the town I live in during our heritage festival they brought in a rear wheel Dino meter and a stock one a 2014 ZL1 put 450 horsepower at the rear wheels they're rated at 580 at the crank I seen it live and it wasn't one of the fake dyno test I can see on RUclips where they only lose like 50 horsepower at the rear wheels and there was a new ZL1 the 650 horse and that put out 510 horsepower at the rear Wheels so the 60 more horsepower it has at the rear wheels above the older ZL1 it lost 20 horsepower out of the 80 horsepower it has at the crank above the old ZL1 .
It's 589 HP (611 on the dynamometer, actually), and yes I'll flame you: the automatic is a complete and utter waste... shoulda bought the manual, it's a peach.
@@AnnatarTheMaia SAE rated is 580hp to the crank, Edmunds dyno’d it stock and it made 497whp which equates to around 584 crank hp…so really we’re splitting hairs here. GM states it’s 580hp so that’s what I said it was. Also, I’m sure the manual is way more fun, but there weren’t any in my area that were near the specs, price, and mileage that I was looking for. The automatic is still plenty fun for me, so idrc what anyone else says.
Auto is faster
@@frakplease3771 no, it isn't. You ate the propaganda up. See, you have to understand how the whole thing works. It's not as trivial as you make it out to be.