Hey guys, thanks for stopping by! I've put together the video chapters so you can skip to the part that you'd like to see first! So tell me, what do you guys prefer: 6th Gen ZL1 or 5th Gen ZL1, and why? Video Chapters: Introduction & Disclaimers - 00:23 Exterior Differences & Similarities - 01:49 Performance Differences & Similarities - 06:20 Sound Differences 🔥 - 10:16 Interior Differences & Similarities - 11:04 6th Gen ZL1 Driving Experience - 15:20 5th Gen ZL1 Driving Experience - 22:08 6th Gen ZL1 vs. 5th Gen ZL1 Runs - 26:17 Final Thoughts & Conclusion - 27:07
I recently test drove a 6th gen zl1. After owning the 5th gen for 5 years, Best way to explain it is the 6th gen literally feels like a sports car going around a track. 5th gen feels like Muscle car that just wants to go straight. Its really 2 different worlds. You cant go wrong either way you go honestly
I’ve owned a 5th gen for 6 years also, and even after having test driven a 6th gen SS and ZL1 respectively, I still think my 5th handles extremely will. The 6ths are definitely better, and are some of the best track cars out of the box that money can buy, but whenever I take my 5th through some twisties, I’m never not impressed by how composed, flat, and neutral it is. It’s a car that DOES want to turn, and does so extremely well.
@@danieldickerson4838 I guess we can agree to disagree on it bro🤝🏾. After driving in corvettes and 6th gen Camaros. 5th gen feels like a boat taking corners.
I'm so happy you got a 5th Gen Zl1. Especially with a manual. It's addicting to watch and hear you roll through the gears. I love the sounds of it. Makes me miss my 2013 even more. I can't wait to get another camaro
I have a 2017 the first year. Never drove an earlier one to compare, but I just love this car. It is so much fun on a track! Driving the streets and going around, like right hand turns, is a thing to behold! Like no brakes and nailing it through the turn. Back end just squats in around corners. Wife and friends hate it, but boy oh boy, how much fun! I was lucky to get mine in Krypton Green
I bought a 2021 Camaro ZL1 with only 3773 miles on it from a Chevrolet dealer in Oregon and I absolutely LOVE this car. I used to have a 1995 Camaro Z-28 and thought that was the best car I ever had but this one most definitely is. Prior to having this car I had never heard of a ZL-1 and I have been pleasantly surprised at how rare it is. I love the comparison between the two cars in your video as well. I may make some engine upgrades on my car as you did. Great video..!
Just watched the whole thing, WOW. Great video man. I had the same reaction with my gen 6 1SS and another friends gen 5 2SS. The 6th gen is insanely better with handling.
First, great video! I feel like you covered each car, high and low points with genuine reaction to each one. I have been a first gen Camaro fan for as long as I can remember and I grew up in a muscle car family where American Muscle Cars are an integral part of life as I know it. Getting my very own Camaro was one of the best days of my life and smiles per gallon is the best way to put the feeling of owning a Camaro as a daily driver. At some point (when I can afford it) I plan to upgrade my 2014 RS to a V8 Camaro and have spoken to a speed shop about putting a pro-charger on the one I have as an affordable solution but after watching the video it reminds me of the upgrades that aren’t just about horsepower that I would miss out on. I have had several of my other dream cars to play with in recent years including a very spirited Mazda Speed3 where the power to weight ratio is enough to blow your skirt up for sure! So even though it’s only a V6, my RS is definitely my favorite, including a manual transmission 335i, which is actually comparable handling wise, although the Beemer will forever be more composed and the Camaro is certainly a muscle car in every way. Bottom line, I really love that I can put 87 octane in my car and get 32.1 mpg if I set the cruise control on the highway but it’s still one of the most froggy grocery getters out there. I am concerned that the reliability, which has been bombproof so far, would suffer and I already lack the self control not to horse around with the few modes that it has now. 😅 I did change out the taillights because I feel that the designers at Chevy really choked with the 2014 and 2015 taillights. They are beyond remedial and remind me of robot eyes. I found some aftermarket ones by Auto Addict that are patterned after the C08 taillights that really give it the sinister look that I enjoy perpetuating but I love the slightly rough around the edges muscle car grunt and after watching your video, I know I prefer the 5th gen over the 6th for a number of reasons in spite of the upgrades that are probably very nice but not worth losing that rougher first gen-esque feeling. So thanks a million for a very illuminating and thought provoking video!! Keep up the good work! 🫶🏻
Great video dude. I own a murdered out 5th gen Zl1 so love seeing new 5th gen Z content! Hop on that No lift shift asap! Feels super cool, and IMO makes a decent difference when racing!
My dad went from a 5th gen zl1 to a z28 to a 6th gen zl1. He loves the 6th gen the most so far because of the 10 speed and its versatility. The 6th gen also drives super smooth
I just like the 5th gen over the 6th gen although i know the 6th gen is faster and handles better. I just like the raw feeling the 5th gen gives me and i love the looks. Great video 👍
I upgraded from a 5th gen SS 1LE to a 6th gen ZL1 1LE. Completely different animals, and I couldn't be happier. 5th gen makes for a better daily driver imo, but the 6th gen is way more enjoyable to drive. I honestly think the 6th gen SS 1LE is the sweet spot, especially if it's your only car. 6th gen ZL1 is an exercise in restraint and dealing with blue balls, it's hard to stretch the legs out without hitting triple digit speeds.
The 5th gens are also a little wider than the 6ths, and have larger more defined hips, as well as those factory fender flares. I absolutely love how the 6ths look, particularly the pre-refresh cars, and ZL1s of course… But the 5th gens just have that perfect combination of aggression and elegance to me, especially the 10-13s. Those are THE modern interpretation of the 1st gen, and GM absolutely knocked it out of the park. The Halo lights, the round DRLs, the defined and high cowl hood, the fender flares, the massive hips, the gills, the pointed shark nose, chin, and brow, the surprisingly massive front vents, the square indented tail lights… Everything about that design is nigh perfect to me. EDIT: Just some additional info, the gills were always a cosmetic item on Camaros; they were never functional. I’m not sure what functional purpose they would even serve if they were.
I don't advertise because of racing and I don't know you so, my 6th gen is a 416ci with a 2650, head and cam, shot of n.o.s, etc. Makes well over.1,000. I'll leave it at that... lots of people build cars and I don't even have the fastest.
@@mjc3502Nice! I have the Magnuson 2650. I plan and replacing my upper pulley from the 90 mm to an 80 mm and replace my driveshaft with a QA1. We did stop the tuning at 957. But Shane said it was still climbing with whp when I told him I’m okay where it’s at. A little nervous at the time. It should crack 1000 whp? I don’t have nos tho.Stock bottom end. There’s a lot of fast rides out there. I built it for me and the sound is intoxicating! Peace
@Godsblessings1111 we turned my car down and lowered the boost. I went 416ci to use spray and hope it holds. The car is holding great, and as long as I'm killing a Mustang or Dodge because they all come for me, I'm happy. Good luck ya... keep the camaro hurting feelings
this was a really good break down of the difference in both generations. I honestly love the appearance of the 5th gen, but I like GMs electric steering also. I like the 5th gens price but that lt1 supercharged is a beast. both cars are amazing.
13 ZL1 Ashen Gray Metallic owner here. Been following you since I picked up my 5th gen ZL1 a little over a year ago. Just saw your video where you were rolling with the R8…. Idk if anyone’s mentioned this to you but the manual 13 ZL1 has a no lift feature for when you really gotta scoot. Stay safe man keep up the content.
The video is well done. You hit the major points between both cars i think. The 6th gen feels more planted and stiffer. The steering weignt on the 6th gen gives the car a better feel. The standard 5th gen seats, imo, are way more comfortable than the 6th gen Recaros, especially on a long trip. One thing to point out, the 6th gen does not have a 35 series side wall like the 5th gen. Its 30. I have a 2013 1LE and my wife has a 22 SS 1LE with the 10 speed. This video is a pretty close representation of SS 1LE vs SS 1LE. When my car was FBO making 462whp and 460wtq we were door to door. The 10 speed is a cheat code.
Dude thank you so much! Hahaha, cheat code is RIGHT! but yeah man if you're looking for the better DRIVING car for sure the 6th gen is the way. But the 5th gen ZL1 is just so much of a car for the money .
@gvaspirated let me know if you're interested in meeting up sometime. I have a twin turbo 5th gen 1LE maybe you could review it. On the opposite side of the state.
Very interesting comparison!👍 I owned a red 5th gen '14 ZL1 AT with the carbon package, black wheels and the Recaro seats, it had a very retro muscle car look, always received a lot of thumbs up that I didn't received with my C7 Stingray Z51 and neither with my Porsche Carrera. I compared my car with the new 6th gen Camaro SS and it didn't had that looks, the 5th gen had usable rear seats but the 6th gen doesn't allow nobody to seat behind. The bolstering on my ZL1 Recaros gave you a secure driving position for the track but they were a pain to go over their bolstering to seat for DD and specially when I parked next to a car or in my garage because of the needed wide opening of the doors. When I traded my 5th gen ZL1 for my dream car a C7 Corvette Stingray Z51. It felt almost as fast, but it was because it was lightweight compared to the heavy 5th gen Camaro. But they have 580 HP of the ZL1 VS 460 HP of the Corvette a huge difference of power. MT mentioned that the 6th gen Camaro SS1LE was similar or better in performance compared to the 5th gen Camaro ZL1 & Z28. That is oustanding! And of course the 6th gen ZL1 its a monster in performance. Later on I bought a 6th gen Camaro SS 6MT that I considered a perfect performance balanced street or track sport car for the money. Where I think that GM failed was to not give a more distinctive rear look to both the 5th and 6th gen ZL1 & SS1LE compared to lesser Camaros, they look almost the same from the back view. I consider that both 5th & 6th gen ZL1s and maybe also the SS1LE would become classicals and keep their price up because rarely are seen on the streets.👍
Same page for me. I couldn’t justify an extra 20k for the 6th. The 6th is a Beast and my 2nd pic 👊I also love the look of the 5th better and for me you can tell why……🐝🐝🐝🐝 plus I get to spend $$ on my own mods interior and exterior/performance. My LSA has been sitting in my garage for a Year now 😂 need to find a good shop that can install it and tune it all in one shot 🤘
Florida high performance is getting good reviews from it. K9 in Fort Myers has a bunch of happy customers with some fast cars. Personally I would go to Hicks Tuned in Clearwater/Tampa area. Zach, the owner, was Redline Motorsports head technician and did the tuning at Weapon X before they went to s***
Only a couple minutes into the video and have a comment. 1. A higher mileage 6th gen and lower mileage 5th gen cost about the same. 2. Electronic e brake! Nope. 3. That 6th gen oil pump! Nope. 4. Looks. My 5th gen looks hard af imo. Either of these cars will make 700whp for about the same price. Neither chassis is putting that to the ground consistently. So end of day it’s personal preference. I went 2014 zl1/m6 with 23k miles. My friend has a 2018 zl1/1le 650whp and it’s way faster. 6th gen Rev match is insane. Red seat belts. 345 rear tire width 10 speed automatic if your into that. I can tell you from experience though, they both get equal amounts of attention on the street.
I don’t have a ZL1, but I went from a 15 SS to an 18 1LE and it is leaps and bounds better in every way than my 5th gen, you get used to the visibility part. As far as maintenance and mods, LS3 was way easier and cheaper to mod and maintain, and IMO the LS sounds better than the LT as well.
The ZL1s don’t have 345 rears. The ZL1 has 305 rears, and the ZL1 1LE has 325s. The only GM cars that come with 345 rears are the C8 Z06, E-Ray, and ZR1.
@@ZL1-Jeremy Okay, but that’s aftermarket, which you made no mention of. *Stock*, no production Camaro comes fitted with 345 rear width tires. Plus, with 305 section tires up front, and 325s in the rear, R comps at that, I’ve never once heard a ZL1 1LE owner complain about lacking, or wanting more mechanical grip on track.
@@danieldickerson4838 when I compare cars potential is also considered. This videos comparison isn’t accurate at all then. My zl1 would be absolutely murdered by a stock 10 speed zl1. Not even close. His car is as modified as the stock fuel system will allow. My friend absolutely complains about his 345 r888’s on his 1le. At 100mph in 4th he still can’t hook on the street in summer time. It would be even worse for a 5th gen as the biggest tire I’ve seen on them is 315. All that being said I still bought a 5th gen and have no regrets. The only car I’d consider as an alternative is the z28.
I like the 5th gen better, but I'm C7 Z06 guy. (love the LT4) I had an LSA in my 2011 CTS-V, that supercharger screamed, not so much in my LT4, aww... Thanks for the video!
@@Keyblade_warrior It’s not really a boat-y car, it’s just a big girl lol. GM specifically designed the 5th gen ZL1 to be as much of a good track car as a drag strip car. Every auto outlet praised its handling at the time, and it consistently provided a better driving experience on track than competing Mustangs at the time.
@@adambaumeister2376 Yeah it's slower but it's not necessarily about the power. The 6th gen ss is lighter, more aerodynamic, better suspension and it puts the power down a lot better similar to what Porsche is doing.
LS3 is a better engine if you want to boost. So many mods avialable already. I have a 2017 camaro ss and miss the muscle car sound from my old 5th gen. The LT1 engine is decent but feels more like a sports car engine than a muscly throaty engine. TBH im on the fence about selling my 17 SS for a 5th gen ZL1. I miss the feel of a 5th gen. these 6 gens are flashy and nice but don't feel the same.
This. Everyone always judges cars based on numbers but sometimes it ain't just about numbers. You can mod the 5th gen to be comparable to modified 6th gens the 6th is just better out the box. Numbers wise anyways that says nothing for the feel of the car and engagement and fun you can. I prefer cars from that era they're still pretty modern but feel and sound alot better vs newer stuff and they can be modified to be crazy fast if that's what you want.
The first time I sat in a 6th gen Camaro I hated the two bumps over the gage cluster. Absolutely stupid design that seems to be wanting to swallow you. It' already enough these cars feels like caves when getting in, you don't need that The 5th gen is better in ths regard. Not saying the 5th gen has better materials, no it doesn't. The 6th gen is the better car for a lot of reasons. But that dashboard broke the deal. So 5th gen it was and I never looked back! I don't care if you pass me on the highway. I enjoy my car!
I have the 6th gen ZL1 , girlfriend has 2023 SS , she bought it new in last Vegas and we drove it home to Maine . The SS is amazing car , just the right amount of power and doesn’t want to kill you when you get on it like the ZL-1 . It’s a perfect balanced car ( the SS )
@@maciejswiercz9737 yes you are right, my '16 Camaro SS was very well balanced. In '16 MT did a H2H of the BMW M4 VS the Camaro SS, and the 6th gen Camaro won. Its Alpha chassis its amazing.
Iv owned the 5 now the 6 the handling is night and day 6 gen all the way. Only thing 5 gen was better more rear seat room. Other than that cant think of anything else. The alpha chassis is an over achiever the 5 gen impala chassis under achiever. Not saying with enough money and parts the 5 can’t be great because it can be. But it will never be as good as the 6.
The tail lights arent retro at all on the 5th gen because the 67 68 camaro didn't have light that looked like a vet nore were they small squares they were rectangles they looked more simular to the 6th gen except the 6th gen was modeled after the iconic 69 whivh had the same rectangles but on the outer ends angle out however missed the mark on the front lights in comparison to the 69. However the 69 had hidaways so to that i say fair game. Both are great the 5th and 6th gen. An intake doesnt do much for you and almost nothing without a tune unless they come with crap intakes which i doubt they do. And if you did gain its because of the tune pulling up the majority. And lastly you cant even test an intake on a dyno its stationary where fans do less than actual driving. The fifth gen is a muscle car the 6th gen is a sports car.
It also costs alot more money. A 5th gen can be modified to be comparable to modified 6th gens. The 6th is "better" numbers to numbers out of the box everyone knows that. It also costs alot more as I mentioned. The 5th gen zl1 is a bargain for the money and can be made very capable with the right tweaks. .
Maybe not for you but the 6th gen zl1 is my dream car so its worth it for me. But if i was gonna buy a brand new car and i could afford it I would go all out and buy a c8 zo6
I couldnt spend the money and not recieve a tremec 6 speed with a short throw from factory. I really feel like people who argue on auto vs manual just can't drive manual. Everyone in the car has more fun in a manual and theres more skill to hone which is fun. Only valid arguement is Dailey, anyone using "🤓 actually auto is faster" doesn't count because you're not racing for money to make it count? Like you're not gonna make enough to pay for the loss of musclecar feel
Take off the stock NPP exhaust that is on your fifth GEN and put Corsa cat back on it. It will still be loud as shit but it will get rid of all that drone and cabin noise. You’ll thank me later..
The 5th Gen looks wayyy better. More retro and just a sharper design. Better laid out interior with more space. I think they sound better too. The 6th SS looks far better than the 6th ZL1 too, which is just too cartoonish and over the top.
5th gen ZL1 is a better daily car very comfortable and that's why I chose it and of course price is affordable compare to 6gen. Also you forgot to mention that 5gens seat reclines all the way back which is perfect if you wanna take a nap in the car lol
Hey guys, thanks for stopping by! I've put together the video chapters so you can skip to the part that you'd like to see first! So tell me, what do you guys prefer: 6th Gen ZL1 or 5th Gen ZL1, and why?
Video Chapters:
Introduction & Disclaimers - 00:23
Exterior Differences & Similarities - 01:49
Performance Differences & Similarities - 06:20
Sound Differences 🔥 - 10:16
Interior Differences & Similarities - 11:04
6th Gen ZL1 Driving Experience - 15:20
5th Gen ZL1 Driving Experience - 22:08
6th Gen ZL1 vs. 5th Gen ZL1 Runs - 26:17
Final Thoughts & Conclusion - 27:07
I recently test drove a 6th gen zl1. After owning the 5th gen for 5 years, Best way to explain it is the 6th gen literally feels like a sports car going around a track. 5th gen feels like Muscle car that just wants to go straight. Its really 2 different worlds. You cant go wrong either way you go honestly
I thought 5th gen zl1s actually handled really well themselves 🤔
@@mogulme6190 the 5th Gen in general just feels like a box and because of its weight. 6th gen much better handling
@@mogulme6190 it does handle very good considering it's weight but the 6th gen is really built for the track
I’ve owned a 5th gen for 6 years also, and even after having test driven a 6th gen SS and ZL1 respectively, I still think my 5th handles extremely will. The 6ths are definitely better, and are some of the best track cars out of the box that money can buy, but whenever I take my 5th through some twisties, I’m never not impressed by how composed, flat, and neutral it is.
It’s a car that DOES want to turn, and does so extremely well.
@@danieldickerson4838 I guess we can agree to disagree on it bro🤝🏾. After driving in corvettes and 6th gen Camaros. 5th gen feels like a boat taking corners.
I'm so happy you got a 5th Gen Zl1. Especially with a manual. It's addicting to watch and hear you roll through the gears. I love the sounds of it. Makes me miss my 2013 even more. I can't wait to get another camaro
I had a 2011 2SS a couple years back. Had to sell it and I miss it tremendously. Plan to get into a 5th gen ZL1 beginning of next year
5th gen will always be my favorite
Same but I want to own both of them some day. Thats how good these cars are
The side "gills" on the Gen 5 are a throwback to the original 69, not something they just thought of to fake intake for the rear brakes...
You're so right about that! Sometimes you gotta look past that "inefficient parts" and just appreciate the heritage. Thanks for that
Should’ve made it functional and still paid respect to the past
I have a 2017 the first year. Never drove an earlier one to compare, but I just love this car. It is so much fun on a track! Driving the streets and going around, like right hand turns, is a thing to behold! Like no brakes and nailing it through the turn. Back end just squats in around corners. Wife and friends hate it, but boy oh boy, how much fun! I was lucky to get mine in Krypton Green
They Skipped 2016 ZL1??
I bought a 2021 Camaro ZL1 with only 3773 miles on it from a Chevrolet dealer in Oregon and I absolutely LOVE this car. I used to have a 1995 Camaro Z-28 and thought that was the best car I ever had but this one most definitely is. Prior to having this car I had never heard of a ZL-1 and I have been pleasantly surprised at how rare it is. I love the comparison between the two cars in your video as well. I may make some engine upgrades on my car as you did. Great video..!
Just watched the whole thing, WOW. Great video man. I had the same reaction with my gen 6 1SS and another friends gen 5 2SS. The 6th gen is insanely better with handling.
First, great video! I feel like you covered each car, high and low points with genuine reaction to each one. I have been a first gen Camaro fan for as long as I can remember and I grew up in a muscle car family where American Muscle Cars are an integral part of life as I know it. Getting my very own Camaro was one of the best days of my life and smiles per gallon is the best way to put the feeling of owning a Camaro as a daily driver. At some point (when I can afford it) I plan to upgrade my 2014 RS to a V8 Camaro and have spoken to a speed shop about putting a pro-charger on the one I have as an affordable solution but after watching the video it reminds me of the upgrades that aren’t just about horsepower that I would miss out on. I have had several of my other dream cars to play with in recent years including a very spirited Mazda Speed3 where the power to weight ratio is enough to blow your skirt up for sure! So even though it’s only a V6, my RS is definitely my favorite, including a manual transmission 335i, which is actually comparable handling wise, although the Beemer will forever be more composed and the Camaro is certainly a muscle car in every way. Bottom line, I really love that I can put 87 octane in my car and get 32.1 mpg if I set the cruise control on the highway but it’s still one of the most froggy grocery getters out there. I am concerned that the reliability, which has been bombproof so far, would suffer and I already lack the self control not to horse around with the few modes that it has now. 😅 I did change out the taillights because I feel that the designers at Chevy really choked with the 2014 and 2015 taillights. They are beyond remedial and remind me of robot eyes. I found some aftermarket ones by Auto Addict that are patterned after the C08 taillights that really give it the sinister look that I enjoy perpetuating but I love the slightly rough around the edges muscle car grunt and after watching your video, I know I prefer the 5th gen over the 6th for a number of reasons in spite of the upgrades that are probably very nice but not worth losing that rougher first gen-esque feeling. So thanks a million for a very illuminating and thought provoking video!! Keep up the good work! 🫶🏻
Great video dude. I own a murdered out 5th gen Zl1 so love seeing new 5th gen Z content! Hop on that No lift shift asap! Feels super cool, and IMO makes a decent difference when racing!
My dad went from a 5th gen zl1 to a z28 to a 6th gen zl1. He loves the 6th gen the most so far because of the 10 speed and its versatility. The 6th gen also drives super smooth
I just like the 5th gen over the 6th gen although i know the 6th gen is faster and handles better. I just like the raw feeling the 5th gen gives me and i love the looks. Great video 👍
I upgraded from a 5th gen SS 1LE to a 6th gen ZL1 1LE. Completely different animals, and I couldn't be happier. 5th gen makes for a better daily driver imo, but the 6th gen is way more enjoyable to drive. I honestly think the 6th gen SS 1LE is the sweet spot, especially if it's your only car. 6th gen ZL1 is an exercise in restraint and dealing with blue balls, it's hard to stretch the legs out without hitting triple digit speeds.
Yeah man
5th gen definitely better as a daily
Better visibility and more comfortable
Love my 6th gen though
The 5th gens are also a little wider than the 6ths, and have larger more defined hips, as well as those factory fender flares. I absolutely love how the 6ths look, particularly the pre-refresh cars, and ZL1s of course… But the 5th gens just have that perfect combination of aggression and elegance to me, especially the 10-13s.
Those are THE modern interpretation of the 1st gen, and GM absolutely knocked it out of the park. The Halo lights, the round DRLs, the defined and high cowl hood, the fender flares, the massive hips, the gills, the pointed shark nose, chin, and brow, the surprisingly massive front vents, the square indented tail lights… Everything about that design is nigh perfect to me.
EDIT: Just some additional info, the gills were always a cosmetic item on Camaros; they were never functional. I’m not sure what functional purpose they would even serve if they were.
My 2013 ZL1 is at 957 rwhp and 843 torque! I'll leave it at that! ✌️
I don't advertise because of racing and I don't know you so, my 6th gen is a 416ci with a 2650, head and cam, shot of n.o.s, etc. Makes well over.1,000. I'll leave it at that... lots of people build cars and I don't even have the fastest.
@@mjc3502Nice! I have the Magnuson 2650. I plan and replacing my upper pulley from the 90 mm to an 80 mm and replace my driveshaft with a QA1. We did stop the tuning at 957. But Shane said it was still climbing with whp when I told him I’m okay where it’s at. A little nervous at the time. It should crack 1000 whp? I don’t have nos tho.Stock bottom end. There’s a lot of fast rides out there. I built it for me and the sound is intoxicating! Peace
@Godsblessings1111 we turned my car down and lowered the boost. I went 416ci to use spray and hope it holds. The car is holding great, and as long as I'm killing a Mustang or Dodge because they all come for me, I'm happy. Good luck ya... keep the camaro hurting feelings
@@mjc3502 Yes sir! 👍
that manual is something different! im soo excited to upgrade from my ls to a 5th gen zl1
this was a really good break down of the difference in both generations. I honestly love the appearance of the 5th gen, but I like GMs electric steering also. I like the 5th gens price but that lt1 supercharged is a beast. both cars are amazing.
Smiles per gallon that's all that matters. Both are amazing machines. You can't go wrong either way.
Totally agree man!
13 ZL1 Ashen Gray Metallic owner here. Been following you since I picked up my 5th gen ZL1 a little over a year ago. Just saw your video where you were rolling with the R8…. Idk if anyone’s mentioned this to you but the manual 13 ZL1 has a no lift feature for when you really gotta scoot. Stay safe man keep up the content.
I'm definitely going to re-run and try it out bro! Thank you so much. Glad to own the Z!
Same experience but at the 2SS level. I never thought I needed more power with my 2018 but this video gives me the fizz
Have the same exact zl1, its a blast. 60 roll beast
The video is well done. You hit the major points between both cars i think. The 6th gen feels more planted and stiffer. The steering weignt on the 6th gen gives the car a better feel. The standard 5th gen seats, imo, are way more comfortable than the 6th gen Recaros, especially on a long trip.
One thing to point out, the 6th gen does not have a 35 series side wall like the 5th gen. Its 30.
I have a 2013 1LE and my wife has a 22 SS 1LE with the 10 speed. This video is a pretty close representation of SS 1LE vs SS 1LE. When my car was FBO making 462whp and 460wtq we were door to door. The 10 speed is a cheat code.
Dude thank you so much! Hahaha, cheat code is RIGHT! but yeah man if you're looking for the better DRIVING car for sure the 6th gen is the way. But the 5th gen ZL1 is just so much of a car for the money .
@gvaspirated let me know if you're interested in meeting up sometime. I have a twin turbo 5th gen 1LE maybe you could review it. On the opposite side of the state.
Great comparison. 6th gen is where its at it handles amazingly. 5th gen more of a muscle car tbh i love them both.
Very interesting comparison!👍
I owned a red 5th gen '14 ZL1 AT with the carbon package, black wheels and the Recaro seats, it had a very retro muscle car look, always received a lot of thumbs up that I didn't received with my C7 Stingray Z51 and neither with my Porsche Carrera. I compared my car with the new 6th gen Camaro SS and it didn't had that looks, the 5th gen had usable rear seats but the 6th gen doesn't allow nobody to seat behind. The bolstering on my ZL1 Recaros gave you a secure driving position for the track but they were a pain to go over their bolstering to seat for DD and specially when I parked next to a car or in my garage because of the needed wide opening of the doors.
When I traded my 5th gen ZL1 for my dream car a C7 Corvette Stingray Z51. It felt almost as fast, but it was because it was lightweight compared to the heavy 5th gen Camaro. But they have 580 HP of the ZL1 VS 460 HP of the Corvette a huge difference of power.
MT mentioned that the 6th gen Camaro SS1LE was similar or better in performance compared to the 5th gen Camaro ZL1 & Z28. That is oustanding! And of course the 6th gen ZL1 its a monster in performance.
Later on I bought a 6th gen Camaro SS 6MT that I considered a perfect performance balanced street or track sport car for the money.
Where I think that GM failed was to not give a more distinctive rear look to both the 5th and 6th gen ZL1 & SS1LE compared to lesser Camaros, they look almost the same from the back view.
I consider that both 5th & 6th gen ZL1s and maybe also the SS1LE would become classicals and keep their price up because rarely are seen on the streets.👍
Same page for me. I couldn’t justify an extra 20k for the 6th. The 6th is a Beast and my 2nd pic 👊I also love the look of the 5th better and for me you can tell why……🐝🐝🐝🐝 plus I get to spend $$ on my own mods interior and exterior/performance. My LSA has been sitting in my garage for a Year now 😂 need to find a good shop that can install it and tune it all in one shot 🤘
Florida high performance is getting good reviews from it. K9 in Fort Myers has a bunch of happy customers with some fast cars.
Personally I would go to Hicks Tuned in Clearwater/Tampa area. Zach, the owner, was Redline Motorsports head technician and did the tuning at Weapon X before they went to s***
@@camarodreams7689 ty for the info my friend 🤘👊
Very nice comparison.
Only a couple minutes into the video and have a comment.
1. A higher mileage 6th gen and lower mileage 5th gen cost about the same.
2. Electronic e brake! Nope.
3. That 6th gen oil pump! Nope.
4. Looks. My 5th gen looks hard af imo.
Either of these cars will make 700whp for about the same price. Neither chassis is putting that to the ground consistently. So end of day it’s personal preference.
I went 2014 zl1/m6 with 23k miles. My friend has a 2018 zl1/1le 650whp and it’s way faster.
6th gen
Rev match is insane.
Red seat belts.
345 rear tire width
10 speed automatic if your into that.
I can tell you from experience though, they both get equal amounts of attention on the street.
I don’t have a ZL1, but I went from a 15 SS to an 18 1LE and it is leaps and bounds better in every way than my 5th gen, you get used to the visibility part. As far as maintenance and mods, LS3 was way easier and cheaper to mod and maintain, and IMO the LS sounds better than the LT as well.
The ZL1s don’t have 345 rears. The ZL1 has 305 rears, and the ZL1 1LE has 325s. The only GM cars that come with 345 rears are the C8 Z06, E-Ray, and ZR1.
@@danieldickerson4838 the zl1-1le fits 345 rears. 5th gen can’t.
@@ZL1-Jeremy Okay, but that’s aftermarket, which you made no mention of. *Stock*, no production Camaro comes fitted with 345 rear width tires. Plus, with 305 section tires up front, and 325s in the rear, R comps at that, I’ve never once heard a ZL1 1LE owner complain about lacking, or wanting more mechanical grip on track.
@@danieldickerson4838 when I compare cars potential is also considered. This videos comparison isn’t accurate at all then. My zl1 would be absolutely murdered by a stock 10 speed zl1. Not even close. His car is as modified as the stock fuel system will allow.
My friend absolutely complains about his 345 r888’s on his 1le. At 100mph in 4th he still can’t hook on the street in summer time. It would be even worse for a 5th gen as the biggest tire I’ve seen on them is 315.
All that being said I still bought a 5th gen and have no regrets. The only car I’d consider as an alternative is the z28.
I like the 5th gen better, but I'm C7 Z06 guy. (love the LT4) I had an LSA in my 2011 CTS-V, that supercharger screamed, not so much in my LT4, aww... Thanks for the video!
The 5th gen actually handles very well it ran a 7:41.27 around the nurburgring even though its a boat lol.
@@Keyblade_warrior It’s not really a boat-y car, it’s just a big girl lol. GM specifically designed the 5th gen ZL1 to be as much of a good track car as a drag strip car. Every auto outlet praised its handling at the time, and it consistently provided a better driving experience on track than competing Mustangs at the time.
@@Keyblade_warrior that’s slower than the non supercharged 6th gen ss 1le
@@adambaumeister2376 Yeah it's slower but it's not necessarily about the power. The 6th gen ss is lighter, more aerodynamic, better suspension and it puts the power down a lot better similar to what Porsche is doing.
@@Keyblade_warrior yes because the chassis is miles ahead of the 5th gen the alpha chassis is just really capable I’ve had both
I think the ZL1 ran around 7:29 and the ZL1LE around 7:16 Please don't hold me to exact times LOL
6th Gen is my favorite. It's a beast.
6th gen …. Lighter with more power hence it drives better it was an easy choice for me.
and a good one at that!
I love the 5th gen but the 6th gen all day
Good review man!
LS3 is a better engine if you want to boost. So many mods avialable already. I have a 2017 camaro ss and miss the muscle car sound from my old 5th gen. The LT1 engine is decent but feels more like a sports car engine than a muscly throaty engine. TBH im on the fence about selling my 17 SS for a 5th gen ZL1. I miss the feel of a 5th gen. these 6 gens are flashy and nice but don't feel the same.
I'm actually putting together a review for that exact situation! Thank you!
This. Everyone always judges cars based on numbers but sometimes it ain't just about numbers. You can mod the 5th gen to be comparable to modified 6th gens the 6th is just better out the box. Numbers wise anyways that says nothing for the feel of the car and engagement and fun you can. I prefer cars from that era they're still pretty modern but feel and sound alot better vs newer stuff and they can be modified to be crazy fast if that's what you want.
Awesome content two really amazing capable machines. Burn Rubber not your Soul. Ride on😊. Love my 5th Gen.
This is the absolute best color for the gen 5 especially with the silver wheels. This is how I'd get it
I liked the Red, carbon details and black wheels on my prior 5th gen ZL1
love these vids!!
I'd like to see a 6th Gen SS 1LE vs a 5th Gen ZL1.
As mentioned in MT, the 6th gen Camaro SS1LE would have equal or better performance numbers compared to the 5th gen Z28 & ZL1
i have a 22 zl1 6 spd its miles above the 5th gen in almost everyway.....amazing car
Pretty much said the same thing haha 👍🏻
@@gvaspirated yup. You did. Until you experienced the 6th generation. But 6spd. You don't understand. The manual is a game changer
I like 5gen Z28 look the most.
SAME!!!
Lets be honest... LS3 > LT1
I think the 5th gen looks cooler. Except for the 6th gen 1le. That car is insane. Super cool cars tho forsure
Sad to see a guy (particular a young guy) say about choosing an automatic over a manual because "You know, traffic..."
The first time I sat in a 6th gen Camaro I hated the two bumps over the gage cluster. Absolutely stupid design that seems to be wanting to swallow you. It' already enough these cars feels like caves when getting in, you don't need that The 5th gen is better in ths regard. Not saying the 5th gen has better materials, no it doesn't. The 6th gen is the better car for a lot of reasons. But that dashboard broke the deal. So 5th gen it was and I never looked back! I don't care if you pass me on the highway. I enjoy my car!
The 6th gen feels like its more planted doesn't lean as much largely due to the Alpha platform they built it on taking it from cadilac
which is a better choice 6th gen ss or 5th gen zl1?
6th gen ZL1 its much better
I have the 6th gen ZL1 , girlfriend has 2023 SS , she bought it new in last Vegas and we drove it home to Maine . The SS is amazing car , just the right amount of power and doesn’t want to kill you when you get on it like the ZL-1 . It’s a perfect balanced car ( the SS )
@@maciejswiercz9737 yes you are right, my '16 Camaro SS was very well balanced. In '16 MT did a H2H of the BMW M4 VS the Camaro SS, and the 6th gen Camaro won. Its Alpha chassis its amazing.
6th gen zl1
@@jmmch3358 yes but zl1 is way out of budget
6th gen ss or 5th gen zl1 is all I can get for now 🫠
It will be my first car tho
So what do u think
Iv owned the 5 now the 6 the handling is night and day 6 gen all the way. Only thing 5 gen was better more rear seat room.
Other than that cant think of anything else. The alpha chassis is an over achiever the 5 gen impala chassis under achiever. Not saying with enough money and parts the 5 can’t be great because it can be. But it will never be as good as the 6.
Great comparison, no ZL1s for me though lol
Dont know if i want a 5th gen which is beautiful, or a 6th gen which is a performance beast or should i js go with an ss 1le.
Both great cars!
I prefer the fifth Gen all day😅
Hahaha same bro!
There is no way in hell that the 5th gen aesthetics are better than 6th gen.
I prefer the 5th I think it looks better. Not that the 6th doesn't look great too I just prefer 5th gen
The tail lights arent retro at all on the 5th gen because the 67 68 camaro didn't have light that looked like a vet nore were they small squares they were rectangles they looked more simular to the 6th gen except the 6th gen was modeled after the iconic 69 whivh had the same rectangles but on the outer ends angle out however missed the mark on the front lights in comparison to the 69. However the 69 had hidaways so to that i say fair game. Both are great the 5th and 6th gen. An intake doesnt do much for you and almost nothing without a tune unless they come with crap intakes which i doubt they do. And if you did gain its because of the tune pulling up the majority. And lastly you cant even test an intake on a dyno its stationary where fans do less than actual driving. The fifth gen is a muscle car the 6th gen is a sports car.
6th gen is top dog . No comparison to the 5th gen
It also costs alot more money. A 5th gen can be modified to be comparable to modified 6th gens. The 6th is "better" numbers to numbers out of the box everyone knows that. It also costs alot more as I mentioned. The 5th gen zl1 is a bargain for the money and can be made very capable with the right tweaks. .
Awesome debating should I get the Camaro ss or zl1 depending on the year model next year
Both awesome cars but I’d take the 2014/2015 Z28 over both 427 7.0
Bro no shot I would pay an extra 25K for a 6th gen. I rather spend the spare 25k on a base C6 👀
Facts
Or a 5.0 xkr
Maybe not for you but the 6th gen zl1 is my dream car so its worth it for me. But if i was gonna buy a brand new car and i could afford it I would go all out and buy a c8 zo6
a base c6 is lame
I believe the 6th gen zl1 automatically comes with the recaros.
I love the 5th gen zl1 especially the color dam, but that 6th gen has 650 HP ALL STOCK
I couldnt spend the money and not recieve a tremec 6 speed with a short throw from factory. I really feel like people who argue on auto vs manual just can't drive manual. Everyone in the car has more fun in a manual and theres more skill to hone which is fun. Only valid arguement is Dailey, anyone using "🤓 actually auto is faster" doesn't count because you're not racing for money to make it count? Like you're not gonna make enough to pay for the loss of musclecar feel
It usually that or the "i live in traffic" which is absolutely valid. The other like 1-5% actually care about "times" at the track hahaha.
5th gen is a muscle car, the 6th gen is a sports car. I like muscle cars
Big difference between muscle sport and pony...
Take off the stock NPP exhaust that is on your fifth GEN and put Corsa cat back on it. It will still be loud as shit but it will get rid of all that drone and cabin noise. You’ll thank me later..
The 5th Gen looks wayyy better. More retro and just a sharper design. Better laid out interior with more space. I think they sound better too. The 6th SS looks far better than the 6th ZL1 too, which is just too cartoonish and over the top.
Nahh you trippin
Much prefer the looks of the 5th Gen.
people dont like the aesthetics and sound of the 6th gen>>>?? w t f 6th gen is better in everyway
6th gen zl1 is the better
@MarcoJordan-v1b definitely
I love both i do like the way the lsa sounds better than the lt4 but when it comes to looks im on a hook i cant choose tbh
5th gen looks better
6th Gen 🎉
The 5th gen Zl1 feels sooooooo slow for 580 HP. Massive old outdated boat. 6th is way better
Heavier
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Sports car vs muscle car
5th gen ZL1 is a better daily car very comfortable and that's why I chose it and of course price is affordable compare to 6gen. Also you forgot to mention that 5gens seat reclines all the way back which is perfect if you wanna take a nap in the car lol
Both beautiful cars that bring smiles to the face of whoever drives them ❤
front wheels on the 6th gen are 285 30 and 305 30 not 35
I almost bought a slightly used ZL1 6th gen. After 2 test drives it would go into limp mode after a couple runs. Seemed to have poor cooling.
Must’ve been broken
That is very strange. MT praised the cooling of the 6th gen ZL1.
The car you tested has been in bad conditions
@@jmmch3358 MT is a paid shill. Always has been.
what year is the 6th gen ?
18
I like 6th gen ZL1 LT4
I pick 6th gen zl1
1st 💯💪
I prefer 6th gen ZL1 10 speed automatic
Gvaspirated i like 6th gen ZL1 10 speed
The 6th gen looks better and is better
I think 5th gen is more muscle car looking 6th gen is more sport car/muscle car
On the street an auto 6gen ZL1 is way too fast lol
SHOCKINGLY fast!
Why not let him drive your car?
He doesn’t know how to drive manual yet
Gvaspirated i perfer 6th gen zl1 19 speed
audio was horrible man next time try go to a better spot for the audio
I purposely put that in the video (disclosure). It’s the wind. Just need better gear tbh. 🤣😬
@gvaspirated i understand. But maybe a open field like that is not best for sound lol. Either way. Good video
The 5th gen is the nicer camaro is definitely
290 lbs.....difference.
get some black wheels damn it
nah
Disagree, I really like the wheels his 5th gen has over the optional black wheels but thats just me, to each his own.
Heavy disagree, the silver aluminum wheels match his paint spec the best.
Slow ass shifts
the 5th gen had one big problem. DOGSHIT interior. So sad.
Yesssir🫡 u gotta try out da no lift shift
Sports car vs muscle car
Yesssir🫡 u gotta try out da no lift shift