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Lionel's New 4-12-2 Steam Locomotive is an Absolute BEAST!
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- Lionel's New 4-12-2 Steam Locomotive is an Absolute BEAST!
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Table of Contents:
0:00 - Intro & Unboxing
2:30 - About First Run Videos
3:46 - Model Info & Stats
6:16 - Monster Pulling Power
8:49 - A couple Differences
10:33 - Adding a Sand Dome Chain
11:30 - Feature & Detail Close Ups
17:08 - Start Up & Feature Demo
21:40 - Running Session
31:11 - Conclusion
32:37 - End Credits
Great video as always. The UP 9000 series was the locomotive that served as the inspiration for the Soviet Union to build their AA20 4-14-4 monster.
A 4-14-4 is starting to get ridiculous, and I like it
Unfortunately, it had the problems of the 4-12-2, but due to the extra wheels, the problems were worse.
@@weylinwest9505 I heard that locomotive would strengthen out curve in the track.
Yep the 4-14-4 just to long.
the Russian 4-14-4 had major problems with both wheel wear and wrecking track not built to handle that level of weight.
Crews reported the engine was a rough rider as the center of balance was directly over the 4th driving Axle inducing a rocking motion. to my knowledge, only 1 maybe 2 were made, and following a derailment, was quietly retired.
be nice to see a model of it since it did actually exist and did see revenue use if briefly
The AA20 would likely be unrivaled on long, straight track (like in some routes in australia) that can support it (which can basically be modern track iirc).
This is a DEDICATED hobbyist your talking about THOUSANDS of dollars here folks. Truly awesome set up.
That train with the cars is $10k plus alone. The layout is well over $50k for sure. This man is in a fortunate position where he can make the layout he always wanted to make as a child and is generous enough to share it with us
@@TheRubiksPilot Right! I'm guessing if you were to add up all his engines and rolling stock and factor in the layout itself, he certainly has spent more $$$$$$ than most folks have on their house!!!
Try hundreds of thousands of dollars…
Grammar police here. *you’re*
Otherwise yes. This guy is amazing. Thousands of dollars and probably tens of thousands of hours.
Wow! This engine is so strong. The 9000 series are one of my favorite steam locomotives. I can't believe it's stronger than the big boy. That's highly impressive.
Thank you very much!
A wonderful presentation!!!! First time seeing your channel. Eric, you beautifully convey your enthusiasm and deep love for this hobby. I appreciate your well-paced, clearly spoken, detailed narration and the beautiful videography. You bring back memories of the Lionel trains I had as a boy and make me wish I still had them.
Thanks 🙏
Cool engine, the UP has had a lot of awesome engines over the years.
Honestly, what surprised me most was the fact that it could still make 0.72 curves with an 4-12-2 arrangement
The secret is in the drive wheels. Some of them have no flanges...which allows for tighter curves.
Thank you very much I appreciate your response
@@Ericstrains
Blind drivers. The Mantua 2-8-2 and 4-6-2 in ho that I....and STILL millions of others....still run. And.....prototypical!
Beautiful model and great layout!
Then there are engines whose frames (chassis-eez? lol) have a lot of overhang. I run A units, GPs, and switchers on the inner O-27 system and the SD-45, FM, GG-1, & Little Joe on the outer O system with 31"-54" curves. I only wish I could run a Pacific or Hudson but won't try it on either line. (sigh)
The crew talk definitely improved, they're finally starting to understand actual radio chatter is almost never by the book
Agreed
Man I wish there was one that could fit on O36 curves, because this is crazy freaking awesome!
Eric really said "10 years ago..." at 7:23 and wow did that bring some nostalgia back and make me feel old...I remember diligently following Eric's Trains and then as college came around and life moved on I couldn't continue the hobby and quit following some of the channels I enjoyed years ago. Glad I happened to check this video out and I look forward to catching up on the AWRX. Hope to be back in the hobby in the future!
That’s great, thanks!
This is my favourite US locomotive, and the model is absolutely great! Love from Hungary.
Thank you!
Those Lionel boxes have such a timeless design. They always look amazing!
Congratulations ‼️Beautiful acquisition. Video very enjoyable to watch . Love you put the chain on. The two engines look so good together in a lashup . Thanks Eric!
The smoke stacks actually put out the proper amount of steam so it blows backwards that is awesome! You have great videos!
5 pounds of pulling power is just like unreal in my opinion. also I like your new first run series you mentioned
Thanks!
Very cool!!
Just like the original it is a work of art.
The motors seem to handle the slow start, stop, and slow speeds extremely well and appear very realistic
Incredible layout. Can't imagine the cash you have wrapped up in that. But more importantly the heart.
I just got my 4-12-2 Spokane, Portland, and Seattle one. I also have the black 9000 from 2012. They're awesome. Also got my Eric's Trains locos 2 days ago. (#109). It's awesome. Love the colors and paint scheme!
One of my absolute favorite steam locomotives.
Great Review Eric! I bought the Denver & Rio Grande version and love it. They got the green right this time. 😎 Also, the new version has a smaller bell. My bracket that holds the bell was broken out of the box and when Lionel replaced it they also sent me a bell but it was the old version. I was able to use the new one. 👍🏻 Keep up the great work! You’re a Great Ambassador for the hobby!
Great video, thoroughly enjoyable with excellent explanations. You've captured the range of this locomotive's sounds perfectly and double heading was extra good. Your rolling stock is also very nicely weathered making it all round an excellent video. I've watched your videos for several years now and seen your layout grow. It's awesome! And what can I say about your spectacular collection, just amazing! We continue to be inspired.
I don’t have an interest in models, but I just stumbled across this channel and wow. These models and settings you have built are very cool. Keep it up! I think I’m obsessed with trains now
me too , no interest, never even owned a model train before , but idk why i love watching these videos , i guess ill watch anything if the person involved is passionate about what they're doing.
Thanks!
Wow, that thing has some nice speeds on it. I know you're gonna enjoy that one..
My Uncle Andrew (Andy RIP 6-21-19) was an electronics wiz who ran N(?) scale and 20 years ago or so, I "helped" him wire tiny dime size speakers under each car (50+ cars !) using tiny wires (+ & -) that He soldered little magnets to the ends which looked like air couplers and were obviously conductive painted black except the contact area. He installed a sound board/card(?) and programmed it Himself in the tender. It was an isolated individual sound of a car rolling on tracks obviously that would speed up with the speed of the train. They were all the same sound but it worked, I thought wonderfully. If You knew what You were listening for You would hear the speed up change which drove Him nuts but I barely noticed even knowing then. It sounded absolutely great. That's just one of many things He did. His layout had "live ?" moving scenes etc like docks, mills, etc,etc,etc and a real water fall, I could go on and on. I'm not a scale train guy but this was sure neat and brought back memories, I spent many hours with Him there. Thank You, nice engine(s)....
i have to say the Milwaukee Road and Northern Pacific liveries, while only being fictional, look AMAZING on this engine!
That new Union Pacific 9023 sounds so nice what a beautiful locomotive
You got a very grand layout.
Good works.
Thanks for sharing.
I saw one of these many years ago in a model railway shop in Bristol UK. It was impressive then. It dwarfed the horby loco we were buying.
That's a great looking engine great detail and one heck of a puller you'll get years of enjoyment with that one nice addition to your collection 👍👍
Thanks 👍
Hey Eric, Just wanted to say TY so much for comparing the new 2022 one versus the 2012 one. That's something I'd love to see more.
For sure!
Insane! This could be used for film! But you already khew that... Details wow!!!
Great review Eric! I am amazed with pulling power. I was also surprised 45 cars fills a layout that large. It was fun to see the cars being pulled by this Stesmer. Enjoy it!
Best, Joe
It's the achilles heel of my layout. There's a bottleneck switch that keeps the max length at 45 cars. If it wasn't for that one switch it could easily be 100+
@@Ericstrains cool!!
Hey Eric, I have a challenge for you.
I dare you to double head both your 4-12-2 and pull every single freight car that you have in your entire layout 😅
I remember watching your review of the old 4-12-2. That was the first review I watched on your channel.
Right on. That was a long time ago!
Love how you got the speed to scale looks 👌 👏
Awesome model! This model looks same like you filmed 10 years ago!
Man that thing looks great moving at speed
I love the number for whistle it sounds like the Big Boy 4014.That's totally awesome friend I bet that was a fortune 💰
Hey Eric, That's a very nice locomotive, and great review as always. Awesome work my friend, thanks😀
Thank you very much!
18:52 That whistle is a star brass 5 chime
Best O27 video I have ever seen - well done regardless of the guage! I prefer HO but can appreciate how far Lionel has come. Your video enhances the product.
Why not call it what it is; "O" gauge?
So cool ... First time here. Love how fast you run them.
What a fun hobby. Quite the setup you have.
Beautiful Lokomotiv
i do like that the finish on the rods is more prototypical on the new ones
I remember your original 4-12-2 review, definitely a powerhouse
This one pulls even more than the previous version.
@@Ericstrains yea, I was surprised with how much
I really enjoyed that.
Good lord that thing looks so real! I started laughing thinking about one extra thing to add for total realism... you need a railroad crossing with a bunch of annoyed people in cars late for work. 😂
Great review as always. My personal 4-12-2 is at Harry Heike's getting weathered and I will hopefully be pulling 72 cars with it soon
He does great work!
Most realistic set-up I've ever seen!!
Wow! Lionel 3-rail sure has come a long way since the 1960's!! 😎
The originals were built t the Northern Pacific yards in Hillyard, Washington, near Spokane - pronounced Spo-can awesome locomotives. My neighbor remembers these as a kid.
Man, This is an Awesome Locomotive!, and you are Right Eric it is an Absolute Beast.
Another excellent video and review!
I love the sound of the three cylinders
Excellent review of the UP 4-12-2 steam engine Eric!!!
Many thanks!
@@Ericstrains You're welcome!!
It works on their O scale model as well. Pus the MTH model does not have cast in piping on the boiler but rather the piping is separately applied. My Legacy has the chain on the sand dome (my MTH model does not) however, MTH's roof vents open. Performance - I give it to the Lionel Legacy model, level of detailing - I give it to the MTH model. I really do like the moving third cylinder though, just like the 3rd Rail model.
When I retire this could be my retirement fun lol
I like the weathering on your rolling stock
Looks great!
26:55 that’s a lot of American Tonnage
Eric, I suspect the traction tire may have a higher coefficient of friction which would result in more force at the draw bar. So maybe it is a change in the material make up of the rubber.
Perhaps. That's as good a guess as any other.
Cool layout
That locomotive is very extraordinary extremely powerful Eric your videos 📹 👏 are extraordinary very in depth I like your unboxing videos as well God bless you and your family
Thank you very much!
Love the intro ! Very good work !
nice work
I like the weathering of the cars !
Wow that's beast 👹 of steam power super nice great layout run these locomotives on. Love big steam chuffing with details Lionel dose right.
Glad you enjoyed it
Gorgeous.
This is a great looking locomotive, though it doesn’t fit my collection. Of course this is fine since I can live vicariously through you!
It looks like you are getting to weathering more of your freight cars - nice work.
Thanks. What's your collection made of?
@@Ericstrains I mostly do modern diesel - NS and BNSF. I do like steam, though those are models of engines that are currently preserved and running - MTH 611, UP 4014, and NKP 765. I get what I can.
I wonder what my G-Scale version is worth as well as my 1900 Lionel train set passed down in mint condition. With the wood box, it came in?
I'm sorry Victor again you've heard the saying chomping on a bit that's what I'm doing waiting for you to review on your personal diesel locomotive you had designed you know what I mean can't wait proud of it happy for you and your success
Very cool having fire in the firebox.
Wow awesome
Nice review. I have the 2 volume Kratville/Bush book set on the Union Pacific type locomotive and I don’t recall ever seeing a photo of a 4-12-2 prototype with chains connecting the sand dome covers. Lionel probably eliminated the chain because it was not prototypical. I imagine they added it to the 2012 version because the chain made for a convenient way to pull the cap off.
The sounds are great. The locomotive has 6 chuffs per driver revolution just like the prototype and they are even a little uneven, which happened on the real 9000 class engines. One other interesting thing about these locomotives, which was probably captured in the Lionel model, is that the drive wheels are not “quartered” 90 degrees apart like a conventional 2-cylinder locomotive. The drive wheels on opposite sides are 120 degrees apart.
Your friendly pest Victor just wanted to let you know that was an awesome video you do a great job once again thank you for the time you put into it and the effort it's 100% always thank you from New Jersey
Glad you enjoyed it
the funnels look different when have both of them side by side at 9:24 the newer one appears to have a narrower funnel with a thicker lip on the top when compared to the older one
I find it a little funny that the Lionel UP 9000 locomotive can pull more than the MTH Big Boy. Historically the Big Boy’s were the third most powerful steam locomotive, second place going to the Alleghenies/Blue Ridges, and first going to the PRR Q2.
Great video 😎🚂👍
Nice work on a chain by the way
Eric how are you Victor from New Jersey. Obviously this is from 2022 first issued catalog I believe. Beautiful locomotive I can't wait for your review on your diesel named after your layout looking forward to it. Meanwhile I'll sit back and enjoy this one God bless you and your family
Thanks!
These are so cool. I have one from MTH in my HO scale fleet. I am jealolus of some of the features you guys get in O scale
And we're jealous of what you can buy a locomotive for 😎
BFIMO: Insane pulling power!
That is 1 awesome Looking, and strong engine me personally liked the 2 tone one in the catolog Grey and black I can see why you bought this 1 cause you already have the Grey and black but yeah sweet engine
Love it.
Nice
That’s a nice locomotive 👍
Great Video
Thanks!
Awesome locomotive!
It sure is!
I like the greyhound paint scheme.
You have a great lay out thank you for posting?
18:28 my favorite whistle
I would like to see an American desert landscape rail line & scenery as I live in the Mojave Desert. I have been collecting a few steam locomotives made in w. Germany, Marklin always interested me as it was popular and too expensive for our family budget. Have squirlled away track and such and one day I'll build my Railroad.
You know, Eric, I was just thinking that the 3rd whistle on the 4-12-2 that I'm hearing and witnessing sounds just like the Southern Railways #4501's three chime whistle, and, boy, does that one sound fantabulous!
Yep!
@@Ericstrains I'm super glad you agree, Eric! Why, if I had some of the steam locos of Lionel that have 5 whistles and 5 bells, it would be nice for any occasion. Also without a doubt, it might just-- bam-- hit me, like lightning, the way Prince Eric put what he said once.
Hola buenas tardes excelente video muy buen modelo abrazo grande😃👍👍👍
Been watching your videos for years now. Fantastic review! Its made me want to get back into the hobby that I haven't had the time for. Curious.... Why doesn't Lionel add a feature for the steam blow down effect? This would just add to the realism. They already have the sound for it so might as well add another smoke feature.
The coolest rolling stock that I've ever owned were the Lionel 6-19868 Animated Alien Transport Aquarium Car Area 51 Groom Lake (x2), Lot of (3) Operating Radar + Animated Alien + Biohazard O Gauge Trains, and assorted other Area 51 Cars. I never had an Area 51 set however. I wanted one though.
Hi Eric, not a train modeller, but Lionel's early models had the feel of tin plate, which I can never get enough of, never quite to scale. They look now close to proper scale, would you agree?
Epic
Hi Eric Victor from New Jersey again checking his video out again maybe send it off to Sid's trains and let him analyze why it pulls way better than anything else just a thought you guys are buddies right
Absolute unit.