Does The RTX 4070 Ti Suck?
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- RTX 4070 Ti Review and Gameplay Benchmark Time! PC Centric unboxes the Gigabyte RTX 4070 Ti, with benchmarks in fortnite, call of duty, apex and more!
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00:00 Intro
01:36 Eagle OC Unboxing
05:01 Installing the Graphics Card
05:55 Testing Ray Tracing + DLSS in Cyberpunk
09:29 Portal RTX Test
10:16 Apex Legends Testing
13:18 BF2042 Testing... Kinda
14:55 Benchmark Graphs
17:19 Overclocking the Eagle OC
19:17 Conclusion - What should you do?
22:35 Outro 
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After looking through HEAPS of terrible, bleeding lead review videos, I just want to say that I really appreciate you taking the time to make this video. Neutral, straight to the point, and tons of helpful info. Thank you!!
Thanks for an honest appraisal. I have this card on my new build list and stumbled across negative vids regarding it. You however have put things in perspective. I used MSFS 2020/X plane 12 so I need 'heavy stuff' to run it at 1440/4K. Thanks for your input. Very helpful as usual.
I just found your channel a couple of days ago and have really enjoyed your content! Love this review and you earned a sub 💙
I'd have no problem buying this.....if it was £600
£600 would not only have been reasonable but it would also have driven far more mindshare and good will towards Nvidia driving even more sales...After the killing in profits they made from the Cypto boom they could have given gamers a nice 2023 and done themselves a world of good at the same time.
Max I'd pay for this is £650.
I got it for 450$ almost xD
@@OnTrackMemes how
@@OnTrackMemes hoe
First time stumbling across this channel. I like this guy. No BS. Unbiased. Simple and informative advice.
I love your videos and you taught me how to build my own PC
The performance of the new cards is definitely not the issue. The prices are the only rough part. I paid $1,337 with taxes for a 4080 MSI Ventus 3X OC. Which was a hard pill to swallow, but 7900 XTX was more than that because scalpers was the only ones with any available.
bro roughly 1750 dollars for a 4080 here in sweden bruhh
@@Zeracey 4070 tis are around 800 dollars though
@@julien7196 where?
I got a 4090 for 1400 where I am
A 4080 is around $1600 her in the Philippines 😭
Though most RUclips reviewers have been slamming the 4070 Ti for not having a particularly good price, I think PC Centric nailed the point when they said (16:18) the value's not really there, but it's really there for *any* graphics card right now. It's not good guy AMD and bad guy Intel/NVIDIA. It's an entire home consumer electronics industry run ragged by profiteers taking advantage of supply shortages. Our hobbies are their side hustles. If anything, the 4070 Ti has been doing good work at undercutting the scalpers sitting on big stacks of 4080/90s.
Btw they’re taking advantage of lack of competition to artificially create a shortage and hike up prices.
Virtually no new graphics cards are a good value but if the alternative is not having a graphics card and not being abele to enjoy PC gaming, then I and many others will just suck it up and pay the asking price.
@@Piketom1, I just bought a 4070ti because it was 3 to 4 hundred dollars cheaper than the 80's and 90's. Anything is better than the 1080 that I have now.
@@phil-1115 Hey man, I have a 1080 and am considering the 4070ti. What are your thoughts on it? Did you make the right choice or would you buy something different if you could do it again?
@@jbaris1680 With the 1080ti, in VR, I had to deal with a lot of stuttering on low settings. I can run the setting higher now with the 4070 and 128GB of RAM and it still run fine. If I had the money, I would have bought the 4090, but that one is twice as much as the 4070. I think my CPU may be the bottleneck problem and I am not sure that I want to spend any more until I get this GPU paid off. I need to play with the settings a little more to get it fine tuned.
Finally an HONEST review of this card
If I had waited, I would've picked this card up. I got my card (3080) at msrp as the market prices started to come back down. The performance of the 3090 for gaming for less that 1000 although expensive, seems like as good as its going to get.
The 4070 Ti is a technically excellent card that is badly let down by corporate greed.
If not for the price I would have bought one but £850 is to much for any 4070 card and we can only hope that the AMD 7800 and 7700 series cards are more reasonable with good performance and acceptable Ray Tracing.
well considering AMD's current top ray trace offerings are just on par with a 3090 , i expect the 7800 and 7700 to fall in line with 3080 and 3070 ray tracing capabilities. which is not quite good enough to power ray tracing at higherresolutions. I got a 3070 and most games with ray tracing i have to render at 1080p and let dlss upscale (to my tv's 4k res) (aka dlss performance mode). and even then my frames are only in the 40-50's range . it;'s made me consider maybe going back to a 1440p monitor or even a 1080p monitor. so i don't have to upscale so high for a clean sharp image (this tv, like amonitor , looks kinda fuzzy on any res but 4k)
How refreshing to see an honest balanced review of this card - unlike most of the others I have seen with excitable presenters squealing about how crap everything is. I'm looking at replacing my 2080ti with this card. And yes, whilst the price is high, it is still much more affordable to me than a 4090. I only use my PC for VR flying in DCS World, and whilst my 2080ti provides a decent experience, I am hoping a 4070ti might iron out some of the stutters that I suffer with.
Just upgraded from my 2080ti to the 4070ti and loving it.
Just upgraded from a 2080..Definitely much improved. But I'm still proud of that 2080. It did everything I asked of it at 1440p/High for 5yrs. Not even a "good" one. Just a HP Blower 2080 lol.
so your gonna spend 800 for the 4070ti when you can buy 7900 xt that way out dose the card and is a 20gb ram for same price hmmm makes sense i guess
I just went from a 970 build to a 4070ti night and day difference
About to build a new pc with this card from a 1080. Haven't been able to experience raytracing on pc yet, I'm looking forward to it.
Thank you for this. The fact is, I'm buying a graphics card, and I want to experience ray tracing, I want to experience 4k, and I want good framerates.
A lot of other channels are so blinded by their hate for price hiking, that they are giving no useful advice right now on navigating the GPU market.
If you want ULTRA at 4k and RTX on some titles, it kind of seems like your options are either spend over $1,000 on a 3080/4080 or better, or spend $800 on this card. So budgetwise (currently) this was the best fit for me.
Except for the fact that due its low memory bus width it keeps clipping at 4k as other reviews have shown. And this for $800+. So yeah, it does suck. Cause if you are price sensitive u can get 3080 or 3090 second hand.
@@nicktlk Its running pretty great in my system so far. Definitely happy with it!
Yeah dude, if you're happy with the purchase im happy for you. Im in a similar situation however I'm looking to do VR. Heard a lot of people complain about bus bandwith and stuff but tbh, I wouldn't even have noticed the reduction in bus bandwith if reviewers wouldn't have told us already. Where I live, a 3090 still sells for around 2500 dollars, and the 4070 Ti I got sold for 1100. The 4070 Ti is a better card other than the memory so Im honestly really happy as well
@@Yucci Yeah it's a weird time for sure where nothing makes financial sense. But it kind of is what it is. I feel like Nvidia pricing this generation the way they did (and AMD following in their footsteps) was a clear sign that things aren't going to get any better for a while.
Get a 7900xt
You have helped a lot for my decision with buying a graphics card. This will be my first build and been looking at GPU but prices are crazy. When I seen a 4070Ti at $800 which is still pricy but I see a 3070ti or 3080 pricing above $1k or higher is hard to choose a GPU but you have clarified to me that all GPU prices are crazy but performance is still there.
Don't spend more than $300-400 for a GPU. They don't deserved it. They are all scammers. NVidia, AMD, Intel. If we don't buy, prices will fall.
@@constantinosschinas4503 shut up bum
@@dejadavis9365 back to your cave monkey.
@@constantinosschinas4503 no then they’ll just turn the prices down for a little bit and crank ‘em back up for the next release
also Intel is like the perfect value for money, 3070 level performance for $350 is insane
For the people say “it’s a good value for the money compared to last gen!”, by this logic, you could say the 4080 is a good value for 4K because it is “only” $1200 and nothing last gen could compete. The problem with this card is that nvidia is pricing PURELY on performance and not taking into account cost of production. If you look at the smaller die size and the cut down memory bus bandwidth (ignoring the ram amount), then you’ll see that nvidia is making the margins on these massive. We *should* expect generational improvements, that’s the point of new generations, but what’s happening here is that they made a KILLER architecture (as evident is by the 4090’s performance) and cut down these cards to increase margins massively. The 4070Ti performs well *IN SPITE* of them cutting these costs, and that’s what I think we ought to stand up against. We could have had better, but nvidia was greedy. This is a 60/60Ti level card when you compare it’s specs relative to the 80/90 class cards to other generations. This card could have been a 4k MONSTER but nvidia knew that nobody would buy the 4080 otherwise, so they cut it down. If that’s not corporate greed, I don’t know what is. These cards should rot on shelves (unless you *really* need a gpu for work because that’s your livelihood) until nvidia decreases the price so it’s more in line with how it *should* line up in the stack.
Its called capitalism. When you sell a product, people expect it to be quality. When the quality increases, the product´s performance becomes better. Therefore ergo, if you want to sell the product, it has to cost more money than a product you sold which has less quality but is meant to serve the same purpose. Supply and demand.
Lol who's stupid enough to justify this scam. People justifying this scam should be put in a mental asylum.
i genuinely think all the outrage is hype, most producst i buy have a huge profit margin, i got a 4070ti for £799 in the UK and i will be using this card every day for the best part of 5 years, Sure id like everything to be cheaper but when compared to other cards in my budget this made the most sense. it peforms better than a 3090ti on the games i play at 1440p and costs less. i dont care.
the 4070 ti is still the best value out of the 3 new rtx 4xxx cards, it is the highest new sku value for money "from" nvidia this far, it is still 200 $ too expensive but it is still, their best value out of the 4080 and 4090.
@@Yatukih_001 so thats why the 3090ti is more expensive?
I'm starting to think this release is proof of concept and not meant to sell much. The selling out of 4090s are mainly due to limited supply.
the entire 4000 series pricing scheme was meant to move 3000 series cards really. because nvidia and retailers got over supplied with 3000 chips after bitcoin fizzled out again and the shortage ended. and it worked. 450-500 for a 3060 ti, 650 for a 3070, 800 for a 3080 , or 1500 for a 3090. all looked like mega deals when the 4090 dropped at 1700 and the 4080 at 1300. most people said "oh fuck the 4000 series" , and bought into the 3000 series instead (myself included albeit i bought a used 3070).
what you're not seeing now about 8 months after the 4000 seires launch are 3000 series cards eating shelf space like they were prior. So the ploy worked. of coruse the super rich "got have the latest" guys bought 4090's still. but you do see 4080's and 4070ti's clogging shelves in quite a few places.
I am new to the PC thing. I decided to do 3d modeling and game design as a hobby, so I need a strong PC. I have been watching pc channels like this one for about 3 months now. Many keep having negative comments about the new graphics cards and pc parts. However, like you said, "People need graphics cards." I don't want to be guilt tripped into buying overpriced old generation gpu. Many channels say go for a 3090 over a 4080. But when you look for a 3090, it's over $1400 new. And the used versions are at or above the msrp. Why buy that old stuff when I can get a 4080 for $1200? I would buy a 4070ti if it had 16gb of vRam. But it foes not. I would buy a 3090, but it's scalped and overpriced. So I will have to get a 4080 or 4090. Both the 3080 and 4070ti have 12gb of vRam. If you go on Amazon a 3080 is around $1k usd. Why would I go for an overpriced 3080 when I can get a 4070ti for around $800 usd? The 4070ti beats the 3080 and its newer and cheaper. That's why I love your channel. You keep the data realistic.
If u got the $ for the 4080.. go for it it may not be as good as a 4090 or 3090 with the 24gb vram, but if ur just starting into modeling and game design, than a 4080 should carry u a long way. Until u make enough money from that hobby to upgrade to a 4090+
Any reviewer saying to get a 3080 over this is on crack lol its basically a 3090/Tiwith DLSS3 but more for 1440p high refresh rate.
Exactly what Slite said. Especially if you’re just getting into it, even a 3080 would suffice. They are great cards and are much cheaper than the 40 series.
The 4070 kills the 3090 at 1440p which is what I play on so I’ll take that over 1,400 plus any day
But he said 3d modeling and game design. I think that makes a good argument for more vram.
Upgrading your gpu is always game specific. It depends on the game you play the most and if a 4000 series gpu will give you a significant performance boost (if the game you play supports dlss 3.0 frame generation)
Not if you upgrade every 8 years 😁
Dlss3 is trash. It gives you the same jnput latency as the framerate you'd have without turning it on. It's completely pointless then imo.
No its not. I just need more frames. I always need more frames.
How are you supposed to know what games you will play in the next 3, 4, 5 or even 6 years? Even the game you play the most, one bad update you might be done, or if your friends quit you might be done. And the game you play the most is likely going to either be multiplayers, simulators, or strategy games but most people will still want to also play triple A singleplayers. And those are the measuring stick, those are the ones you need to able to run. At 1440p at this point you need a 3080 12gb or possibly the upcoming 4070 non ti. The 4070 ti reviewed here is considerably better. Probably adds another year longevity, maybe 2. Hard to say what's going to happen as years go by but the sad reality is that most people probably need what is going to be a 600 or 700 dollar card, or get this one for 800.
If the 4060 Ti has 12gb memory then that will be enough for a lot of people, but the community is dreading a reality where it will only have 8gb.
Lol if i went from my 2080Ti to the 4070Ti i don’t need to use DLSS ill still get a 40-60% performance increase…
Hello @PC Centric, I was wondering what is the difference between OC and OC rev 2.0 for the eagle 4070 Ti. Is it only the size?
So true about what you were saying. Everything sucks in terms of value right now, so i get why people are saying everything out right now is bad. However, they were also the ones saying you should wait for Lovelace or wait for RDNA 3 for almost a year. We need to move on and just accept things are bad, then just help us weigh up our options, becasue alot of people are done waiting.
Sure, noone can wait forever for an upgrade. Price is still a kick in tha balls and DLSS3 is in its absolute infancy and the VRAM for the price is too little. But otherwise not a bad chip.
At current pricing, I don't think I can afford a better card than I have. I got an ex-display RTX 3060 for a little over £300 and it serves my needs perfectly. I can't really afford anything more than about £400, so I probably upgrade for a generation or 2, even if I but 40 series card in about 3 years time when they drop in value cos everyone wants the 60 series or whatever it may be
Could go for an RX 6800 at around 450 tbf
A Palit 4070TI costs around 80dollars more than the Gigabyte 3070TI in my area, for that price difference i'll definitely get a 4070ti over the 3070
Hi mate. I have not watched your videos since the 3080 launch. In my un-trained opinion, I can see a massive improvement to every aspect but especially your delivery. Love the content and thank you. :)
Edit: not that you were not brilliant before.
Refreshing realistic review - thanks mate! I just upgraded my trusty 1080ti (what a beast she was) to a similar card (MSI GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Ventus 3X OC 12GB GDDR6X) for $1300 AUS. The reality is the GPU market is overinflated by roughly $500 per unit and not much we can do about it. I AM a tight arse and have always adhered to middle of the range PC components, so for todays priced market this product fit my purchasing ethos. This was a great upgrade for me and my system is way quieter and cooler. Performance is as expected (great!) and am enjoying some amazing sceneries in my flight sim @ 2k. Don't let the myriad of negative reviews guilt you from buying this card - YOU'RE worth it - go treat yourself now because prices are not dropping!
I had a 2060 super paired with a 17-9700k. I used that system since the beginning of 2019, and at the time it really wasn't that bad at 1080p especially for the games at the time. Nowadays with RT and me upgrading to a 1440p monitor. I just simply needed something better that could offer the 144 fps (or relatively close to it) I was needing. The pricing is horrible and unfair and I will give every reviewer that, but the fact of the matter is (for me) this was great. Compared to the prices and me not wanting to build AMD, the prices people were wanting, and what companies were wanting for used 30 series and the new 4080/4090s... This card is actually a goodish find. Not everyone has a ridiculous amount of money to spend on scalper prices and I sure as hell was not paying for a used card and there was no way I was gonna drop 1200 - 1300 dollars on a card alone. The system I have now has a 4070ti and a i9-13900k and it feels like it should last me a whole lot longer than the one I had previously. Hate all you guys want but this is a great buy (AGAIN FOR ME).
thats a 4k gaming setup, that setup will destroy 1440p at everything but cyberpunk but i mean not even the 4090 can handle cyberpunk at 4k that greatly.
Well, I brought it anyway. Not that I really wanted too, but has be in need of an upgrade for like two-three years now, and the pricing in Sweden is insane on all cards (Swedish krona is low compared to US or Euro), so was needed too now. Think we all just need to forget about the times when GPU was priced for a normal worker, this is nuts.
I absolutely love your videos. I just bought this specific GPU well the black one. I was confident in it but seeing this I am completely satisfied with my buy. I will be building my first PC this Monday with said gpu. And your videos as a guild
Thank you for the good, honest review. I do feel pricing is a bit on the high side now day's but I think that this card is ideal for 3440x1440 gaming. I play mostly single player games and want good visual fidelity at reasonable frame rates. My current monitor tops out at 120Hz G-sync but will have my rig plumbed into an LG OLED 4K 120Hz via optical HDMI 2.1 once the man cave is finished.
No its not a 4070ti is not a 4k card not even close . Its a 1440p card at best and will sowly become a 1080p card . Dont borther with 4k if you cant affort a 4090
@@xythiera7255rtx 4070 ti will be a 1440p card in the Futures and the rtx 4070 ti is a beast in 4k too and u just need over 60 fps in 4 k and the rtx 4070 ti is even close too a rtx 4080 ok 30 percent faster but the rtx 4070 ti is a fucking beast
Thanks for the honest review. I love my MSI Gaming X Trio 4070Ti.
I'm looking to build this weekend! But due to my current situation, goals, projections, and budget, I'm shifting the products I'm getting so I can get into a 4080 range for my build. (4k gaming +3D rendering + workstation loads + not upgrading for 6y+)
I hate that the market is in such a crappy position atm; however I cannot do what I want to do with my current rig, nor have I been able to for several years now. (i5-4460, GTX970, 8gb DDR2)
As for voting with my wallet*: I have been voting with my wallet, I've voted by not buying anything for 7-8 YEARS, and look where I am now with my votes.
As for the 4070ti: In this crappy market, and with the recent issues with AMD (I was really hoping the xtx would be my next card :( ) I think this card can do quite well for its cost; when compared to the over priced over bloated 4080/4090 cards for GAMING*. Honestly; If I were not building a rig for workstation/art loads and needing as much Vram as I can get, and was ONLY a gamer; I'd probably be picking up this card, or the XTX.
I'm sure there are going to be price drops by the end of the year, maybe even in summer. Though If I have to compare waiting 6 months to save 500CAD or so, vs having a rig where I can finally branch out into 3D model rendering....... I'm going to pay that 125 per month.
If a sale were coming February; I could wait.... but if its just for 50-100CAD... again, I'd rather have my equipment and spend that time learning Blender.
Totally agree with you...I'm in the same boat as you with same use requirements ...I'll wait out a month or so before pulling the trigger...let's see!
Ditto similar situation but i returned my 7900xtx due to signal loss drivers and windows 10 constanly overwring the driver and its unstoppable even in gpedit.msc. i was upgrading from a 1070 strix.. i went back to the 1070 and now shopping nvidia cards again.. i had some faith in amd but it just isnt quite ready on the driver software and windows refuses to play nice regardless of whql signatures and orders to not instal any drivers for any hardware. Unfortunate. Hated the troubleshooting to no avail and i vowed to never touch another amd gpu
@@inkster147 Hopefully you catch the market at a slightly better position! While Nvidia is stubborn and headstrong with their stupid pricing, even they will start to buckle with so many people not buying.
imo;
If you can wait, then wait. 2000 and 3000 series are still good, and if you are fine in even older hardware its better to wait.
If you cant wait or have waited for too long already, I don't think you should feel shamed for needing an upgrade. Crap time that upgrade fell into but no crystal ball is perfect for predicting the future :)
Best of luck!
@@RumpleFoldSkin That is a real shame :(
XTX was something i was really hoping for, even put my build off for another 3 months or so in the hopes it would offer 4080+ performance at a cheaper cost.
If I were only a gamer and could handle the small hiccups*, I'd have gone with it.
But with all the problems popping up over it I'm going with the 4080. (I'd go for a 4090, but i'm sacrificing elsewhere in the build and i can barely get the 4080, so i'm just not anywhere near that price bracket :/ )
@@12463trf You're absolutely right! I'm just waiting because of my payday for a long going project . So far, I'm eyeing at 3080ti, i7 build but 4070ti looks good too spec wise! But then again, 4080 is not too far from 4070ti when it comes to price, so that's what making my head scratch! Either way, everything will be clear once my pocket is full of cash, will get whatever makes sense at that moment. This will be my first desktop. Coming from a used 7 year old Dell i7 laptop, so at this point anything that's available in current market will be a huge upgrade for me! 😅
All the best for your build :)
Good points. I'm upgrading from a GTX970 I bought over 10 years ago. Of course I need to buy something, and of all the somethings I can get, this is a valid choice when considered in relation to the alternatives.
Same, Im gaming at 1440p / 165hz with a gtx 1080 and thats not what you call the best gpu for the monitor so i need to do something sooner then later. My goal is 4080 if i need to i can go down to a 4070 Ti. Is it the best option in the grand scheme no but looking at it compared to where im at now eh ill take it.
GTX 1080 /1440 along with 165Hz is not that great. Still waiting it out but i need to make a move
I am in the same boat as you guys. I currently game at 1440p/100hz with a GTX 1070. I literally binged a bunch of vids did some digging and feel like I got lucky based on price comparisons. A lot of 3070’s and 3080’s were priced within reason. So I grabbed the following:
Skytech Chronos Gaming PC Desktop - AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz, NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti, 1TB NVME SSD, 16GB DDR4 RAM 3200, 750W Gold PSU, 11AC Wi-Fi, Windows 11 Home 64-bit
Safe to say this will be a monster improvement for me and a bit of future proofing in my world at least.
I also picked up the Alienware A3821DW.
My friend's RTX 2060 gave up just before Christmas. He has two 4K monitors so he was not having a great experience with the 2060. If you don't want to buy in the "used market", you will have to buy the newest GPUs (4000 series or 7900 from AMD). That's what he did, he bougth a 4080 from Zotac. Obviously, he had the money but my conclusion is; I will keep my 1080p monitor for a few more years...
COOL STORY BROOO...........
How? My 970 bought in 2015 still running strong...
Just checked out this and the 3090. Went with this because the benchmarks were similar (thought the 4070Ti was the superior card the vast majority of the time) and on newegg with tax I only paid bout 950, for a 3090 I would have had to shell out 100-110 bucks more for a card that performs worse. I think this GPU market is pretty broken and don't get me wrong, I still think they are slightly overpriced but just going by pricing metrics I would definitely go with the 4070Ti which is the best bang for your buck right now.
My 3090ti croaked after a year for some reason, sent it to warranty, couldn't be replaced cause yea, that's not happening anymore, opted to get 4070ti replacement and a wooping 500 bucks back. If you're sticking to 1440p gaming, you don't really need more, not by a long shot
I'd still put those 100 bucks for the extra gb
Excellent video my friend, just what I needed.
@PC Centric What you said around 13:20 is quite refreshing. Those people that you're referring to is me... I am people... I'm currently in the market and coming from a 980ti, so yes I agree I love that your video was informative but also helpful.
I needed an upgrade for streaming purposes. Got the $800 MSI card. Love it.
I love mine to. I got the MSI one on Newegg.
This is the review I was looking for. Fair and unbiased. All the other tech channels are doing these “SHAME ON YOU NVIDIA!!” reviews. I’m getting it anyways. Just wanted to know how it performs against my 3060ti.
I just sold my 3060ti for $350. I am going to buy the 4070ti this weekend. I just wanted a graohics card that will max out my new 1440p monitor for the next 4+ years.
1000% this, I'm so glad I didnt follow the mainstream review
@DAMR saaaaame I'm going to try and do that this summer when I get a job
@@dashadow1817 literally me xd
Bought mine a month ago. I'd literally sleep with her if I could 😅
No, it’s a good gpu every one just thinks it should be the same price as the 3070ti some how.
Only found ur channel a month ago when I started thinking about my first build. Got the Zotac 4070 TI but dang, it is HUGE. Gonna send back the Mid Tower case and look for something that it can fit in. Oh well, I'm a noob and I see this video is 6 months old but hey, I need to vent. Why don't channels talk about the size requirements for these behemoths? Cheers;)
I currently have a 3070 ti. Is it work upgrading to 4070 ti ?
Great video. Very thoughtful and honest. 👍
People forget that consumers ultimately determine MSRP.
The biggest allure of the card is probably the power usage. Hope the card stays unpopular that there's tons of leftover stock, possibly lowering the price to be around 3080. ATM they priced it 50% more expensive than 3080 cards, it's pretty nuts.
But holy crap these AIB cards are so unattractive when compared to their 30 series predecessors. I always been on the team Strix, but their 40 look hideous just like the other brands.
My 4070 to ZOTAC is a sexy beast, how dare you. It’s got curves for days
Who cares how they look . You put in your pc and never watch it again . As long as its not running hot its not a realy thing to look at
@@xythiera7255 Plenty of people does. If you want to make a sleeper build, that's your choice. Appearance is one of the fun things with PC building/modding, hence why there's so many parts with RGB & LCD features.
I just bought a 4070 ti and 14600kf, upgrading from a laptop gtx 1650 and i7 9th gen, hopefully it will be good!!
i just wish that NVIDIA start matching the VRAM size of the Radeon counterparts
The 4070 is like Andrew Garfield a couple years from now people will love it
yeah when the 4070ti is half the price in a year or two then the value will be awesome
With 12 gigs of vram? Idk bro :/
@@MachhJuann yeah the price of it now is definitely not worth it. But if you look at the performance at only 1440p, its 3090/ti level with less power draw. If it was $600 it would be great value
They will be praising it by Oct. lol
@@MachhJuann What's the highest Vram you have EVER SEEN being used in a game? Even Fortnite using the new Unreal 5 engine which is more taxing than Cyberpunk only uses 8 to 9gb in 4K.....The only cards needing more is the AMD cards which are not nearly as efficient
Nice to see this card being judged on what it was built for and not on a poor launch by team green, I am very happy with mine!
I have a computer coming with a RTX4070TI. Every video on You Tube seems to hate the RTX 4070 TI and say it cost too much. IMO it hits a very good sweet spot.
It gives as good of performance as the RTX-3090 and in manygames better FPS and costs much less than the RTX-3090 did and does
What monitor did you use for your test? thx
Hi everyone, hope you all have a great day. If you have any input on what new GPU I should buy, I highly appreciate your input. I choose mainly between RTX 4070 ti and RX 7900 XT, for 1440p gameplay and use of RT when available. Currently I use a GTX 1080. In Sweden the ca lowest cost of these GPU:s in USD (incl. VAT) are: 4070 ti - $1060, 7900 XT - $1125, 7900 XTX - $1425, 4080 - $1570, 4090 - $2260. I have checked the used market, prices for RTX 3000/ RX 6000 are so high it´s better value in buying new 4000/7000 GPU:s, in relation to performance + as well warranty. Have i5 12:th gen, DDR4. Sorry for language errors, English is not my native language. Thank you! :) Best regards
RTX 4070 ti 👍
For a brand new release, seems to be a lot of rtx4070TI in stock when checking a few retailers. Don't recall that when the RTX3070TI was released.
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That's the point, the market has changed, but Nvidia or AMD didn't get the memo it seems.
cause it's overpriced as crap probably
@@SuspiciousSalad hasnt happened with any 80/70 series card since who remembers when.
@@bengonzales1182 peasant
People hate this card not because of the Performance but because of the price. It is very good at 1440p, good/descent at 4k for modern games and it would still rock for the next following years.
@@shiki_4240lol first of all 4070ti is similar performance than a 3090ti, plenty comparison videos to prove that, most games the 4070ti has a few fps more, and in some games (mostly 4k) the 3090ti gets a few more probably due double the ram but the 4000 card having the new tech to make up for that. Also a 3090Ti where I live STILL costs double than a 4070ti. Here its 900euro for a 4070ti, 1500euro for a 3080ti and 1800-2000+ for a 3090ti.
4070ti is a beast of a card and good value for the money if u ignore the "70" branding and take into account pricing of the other cards. Its not a problem of the 4070ti being expensive its a problem of general pricing of all gpu's having gone out of hand
4070ti is a really good card. If nvidia didnt have 4090 i wud go with 4070ti. No chance of buying an amd gpu 🤮
@@anuzahyder7185 yeah 4090 is a monster, lowkey considering sending 4070Ti back and ordering a 4090 lol but I'd need a new psu and also bigger case.. The 4090 pulls a lot more power
@@zdx197 which psu do u have? Works fine on my 850w evga psu. 250w - 400 w depending on the game
@@anuzahyder7185 650w only. On ryzen 5800x3d and 32gb 3600mhz right now
Purchased an OBOX new of this model for $680 from a retailer and has been performing very well. The value per dollar was unbeatable in today’s GPU market.
Hey :) think you a great, actully going to try to build one couse of your videos, missis not at happy about it ;) But its a jungle out there with the diffrent brands of the same GPU thanks for what u doing.
The Asus Strix 4090 was £2499.99 on launch day whereas the Asus TUF 4090 was £1699.99 on launch day. I paid £1899.99 for my Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC only for the TUF GPU to drop just as I'd paid for mine and then the rest of them where available as well. I'm absolutely sick of not being able to build my rigs how i choose and the prices are absolutely ridiculous. The 4090 will be in my rig until it needs a walking stick.
Brooo whaaaat my whole pc cost 2200 Euro with an 4070ti from ASUS 💀
Love your content! I'd love to see some more on the red devil 7900xtx please!
Same crap as reference 7900xtx. No big difference. No hot spot issue as reference, still goes up to 88-90 in intensive games like SCUM. I have one red devil limitededitionOC,in a pretty box with latches , and waiting for 4090 in stock to return it. Or maybe even 4080. AMD drivers suck, adrenalin soft crashes , card draws more power idleling then 4090, hook up second screen and power draw goes up to 180-200 doing nothing, just wiggle your mouse on a screen. In games overclocked, it takes 435 watts, lol, like 4090, but this card soon far behind 4090, and I guess even 4080 bits crap out of it in most. Haven't tried 4080
I'm thinking about buying one
@@emperor_fisher5263 I got one for $1099, I assume it's msrp, I mean it's okay, but don't expect 4090 performance
@guardian2515 your literally the first person I've heard slate the red devil card. I'm guessing your a 4090 fan boy but just bought the amd card seen as you couldn't get the 4090 🤷♂️🤣
@guardian2515 it never was a 4090 competitor but beats the 4080 at 4k and looses by 1% at 1440p. Depending on what games you can swing the result to fabour either gpu
Amazing video, thank you
Should I use the support bracket on this card? After the cracking issues
I just ordered a gaming pc in parts where I picked this as the GPU. I just thought it seemed like the best card I could afford at the time. I don't want to buy used and I didn't want to purchase a 3070. I want a next gen gaming pc that I can use to play 4k.
Great review. All GFX cards are too expensive and the truth is that this and the Rx7900XT are both really good cards...just overpriced! But then again so are cars, houses meals out etc etc
I built my rig in 2021 not knowing graphics cards were going to be impossible to get ,been waiting 2 years for my graphics card,going to buy the Asus Tuf rtx 4070 ti next week,can't wait any longer or my rig will be out of date and will have to start again.
I ended up getting the MSI 4080 Ventus which is $250CAD cheaper than the 4080 Suprim X. Ended up just flashing the Suprim X bios to the Ventus and it basically becomes 99.9% the same card
This is the exact 4070ti that I am getting soon. You are the only one so far that has done a review for the Gigabyte 4070ti Eagle OC. Thank you.
Same!
,😂😂
@@MrGts92 Laugh all you want dude. I had a 7900xtx that has the junction temp issue, and that is being returned. So I gave AMD a chance and they screwed it up. My pc case is a NZXT H1 v2 and it is limited to the size of gpu that will fit in it. Being that most of the gpus now are freaking huge I can only get a 7900 xt/xtx or one of the 4070ti. So laugh it up fuzzball.
Also the 4070ti is a good gpu, but the price just isn't as good.
12gb vram ain’t worth it you’re better getting a 3090/3090ti
This was an easy buy in Australia as the 4080 is $1000 more
Which GPU do you prefer, gigabyte or Asus tuf?
What monitor are you using here , model please ?
Every time I watch a video about graphics cards, it's makes me happy about my purchase of a 3080 ti a while ago, does everything I need easily.
I got one second hand at a bargain price. Doing me well
I just upgraded from a 3080ti to a 4080, DLSS 3 LETS GOOO!!!
I usually don't bother upgrading until I can about double performance. You should be fine.
I'm looking at a 4070Ti from a 1070Ti. I need something to drive my 1440p ultrawide. A 3080 generally costs more for me right now.
3080 ti is a beast of a gpu
@@geldonyetich And you'll do good! I just watched a 2 hour stream, several videos, saw benchmarks and asked people questions and the 4070 Ti is a beast for 1440p for high refresh rate. In fact, it was even hitting pretty high FPS on 4K, about 60 FPS Ultra, and with DLSS even more! On modern games on 4070 Ti won't even sweat. And the power consumption is just... amazing for how well this card performs. And with drivers, it will only get better and better. And with more games to support frame gen coming, you can nearly double your performance with DLSS enabled. If you are into even higher numbers and you know you'll upgrade to 4K, I would recommend getting a 4080. But if you know you'll stick with 1440p [which I recommend], go for the 4070 Ti.
Have a good day!
Thanks for the video. I am glad you did not get into the common trash bashing of the RTX 4070 ti just because people are mad at NVidia for trying to pass this GPU as an RTX 4080 initially and rebranded it as the 4070 ti, That seems to be all that people are talking about these days. You simply looked at the card's performance which is what I was looking for. I just ordered the Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4070 ti AERO OC to replace my old Asus GeForce GTX 1080 ti. I decided on this particular card to complement my white build. I am looking forward to seeing the improvements the new card will bring.
classic comment that a braindead consumer would leave
@@Frostygreek1211 ok smart dude
1080ti… what are the specs for the rest of your system ?
hey im doing my first ever pc build, so i was wondering is getting 4070 Ti over a 4070 worth it?
Hello thanks for the review, i purchased one today , the price in Belgium is 1.141 dollar!
4070 Ti is faster and less power-hungry than 3080 Ti, and has a much lower MSRP. It sucks that an X70 class GPU is now $800+, but it's not nearly as bad as many people are making it out to be.
I agree, replacing my 3080 with a 4070ti oc.
For someone like me on a 7+ year old card, it seems acceptable.
40 series drama aside, the Gigabyte cards look like the way to go this generation. Super thick and dense finstack, large fans, massive air pass-through sections, easily available, and they seem to have relatively little coil whine
Got a 4070ti Asus Tuf OC, its a fantastic card and is about the same size as their last gen 3070ti Strix
Can I hear someone ordering drinks in the background whilst Benchmarkus is doing his bit? xD
He was down the pub again...
I’ve had this card now for a year and it’s been amazing. Gaming at 1440p ultra max settings 150fps I don’t need anything more
6 Years ago I paid $1,000 for a 1080ti. It's still in my rig but I've been wanting an upgrade. It just doesn't do it for 1440P high fps in a lot of games anymore. So while the prices are nothing to dismiss, I did pay more for a lesser card 6 years ago. So looks like I'm buying a 4070ti!
Im doing the same exact thing. EVGA 1080ti to this card. New rig comes in Thursday.. i can't wait
i did this thing exactly. probably not going to be impressed as much as you want...(currently the 7900x + 4070ti firestrike ultra record holder) 😅😅😅
i agree im on a 1070 and i play on 3440x1440 and games go on the low to medium settings
high becomes a little jittery
it wont run ultra at all
so im on the fence about 3080ti or 4070ti
price difference is 170 dollars
3080ti is second hand
4070ti is 1000 dollars for the cheapest version in my country
@@starofeden9277 I’m on the fence as well I’m the same cards. I can get the 4070ti for $880.
@Star of Eden 4070ti is 20 to 50% faster than the 3080TI... and its brand new. No brainer
Thanks for the review. I bought one to replace my aging 1080ti. I was shopping for a 3090ti but would rather have the current gen. Plus this is new not used. No brainer really. Only complaint is the memory.
Eh, would got a used 3090 Ti. 15% faster at 4K & better RT performance w/ much more vram.
@@OC.TINYYY nah I game at 2k anyway. It’s way better at 2k.
@@OC.TINYYY not 15% it's about 4-8% and in some cases 4070ti the same or beats it, i agree on vram but lack of memory can be compensated from rams as well
Mine currently is 1070. I thinking of getting 3080 or 4070 ti. Do u think i should upgrade to which now?
Bro I love the mouse pad but can you make it wider.
I will stick with my second hand 3080 for $550 for now and see what the next gen of cards look like
I'm in two minds over either buying a second hand 3080 or just waiting it out for the mid range cards like the 4060ti. Both will likely cost a similar amount and have a similar level of performance.
@@fafski1199 yeah i dont blame you waiting for a 4060 or 4060ti
Subscribed! You're one of the very very few RUclipsrs that state the reality of the situation. If you're building a new system and need a new card now, this is a good card. Lets be honest, your average buyer isn't going to look at the die size and whether it's ethical or not, especially when the used market is still selling cards at ridiculous prices. If a 3090 used is going for $800 and so is the 4070ti, I would choose the newer card, simply for the newer gen tech and it's new not used. The only reason I would choose the 3090 would be for the vram if I'm doing creative work
This is exactly what I did, I was going for the 3080 until I heard about the 4070Ti. I bought it and started getting sad about the reviews until I realized what the actual performance to price is. I think it's great value, and that's why I bought it.
@@magicaviation2990 Yeah, and I also want to state, yes Nvidia is at fault for raising the prices, but the general community that keeps the used cards and sell them at exhorbant prices are also at fault. We want to say how bad Nvidia is etc, but let's look at how people are selling used 3090s at the same price as a 4070ti, some people in Canada are also selling 3080s $100 shy of the 4070ti retail. Greed is not just with Nvidia, it's just market in general
@@magicaviation2990 The 4070Ti outperforms the 3090 Ti with half the power draw. It's really not that bad if you think about it, especially if you can get it at or near MSRP.
@@MistyKathrine With benchmarks I have seen, it only beats it in a couple of test. Although it is great I thought you myself, why not get the best of the best so I can have a great build for many years. With that I have decided on going with the 4090, and the 13900k.
@@magicaviation2990 It really depends on your needs. In the USA power consumption is less than an issue since electricity is cheap. For people in Europe, they are paying 50-90 certs per kilowatt hour and having a 13900K and a 4090 is quite literally not worth it for the hundreds of dollars a year in extra power costs.
How is vram usage in 4k Cyberpunk? From other videos I've seen it seems to go over 12GB and causes stuttering when that happens.
The hdmi cover that fell off in the beginning 😂
Multiplayer isn't much of an issue for me. Our internet sucks here, so triple A gaming is as important. I think the 4070ti is decent. But given the prices here, you'd be crazy if you'd buy a brand new 3080 vs this one, the prices are nearly identical, just a few bucks and you'd be buying yourself a bang for your buck. If it has similar or closer results to 3090ti , there's no reason to buy the 3090ti cause here the 3090 and the ti version is 60% more expensive than this.
and the power consumption.... i hate buying this bad value card, but i need a card, i am coming from a rx 5700 and i want the features nvidia offers, so i think i will be getting the 4070 ti even though it feels bad man
@@juan-in3cw Same i feel gutted that I’m forced to buy it but coming from a 1650 this would be a major upgrade
And id go from 70 fps at 1080 to 60fps at 4k
I guess value is in the eye of the beholder. I mean this is essentially a bit better than the 3090 for around half the price it launched for two years ago. If you can get a 4090 level card for £800 in two years that's not bad progress I reckon.
@Shiki_4 It's better than the 3090. My brother has one, he can score over 20000 in Timespy on 3DMark, my 3090 only got around 18500. It's ahead of both the 3090 and 3090Ti in many game benchmarks I've seen as well.
I've not seen a benchmark where it's lower than the 3090, although I haven't watched or read a great deal on it.
I guess VRAM heavy titles would still give a 3090 the edge.
What do you think is the best option for max 1000 dollars?
I play games and edit videos 50/50%
I do video editing in davinci resolve studio
I have seen videos of 4070 ti with vram and memory buzz issues. Both in game and in davinci resolve.
7900 xt which has constant problems with it getting the program and play to restart.
Could it be that a used 3090 card is still the best option?
Can you please tell me the fan direction of the top and bottom fans?
great video, nice to hear proper opinion instead of just "NVIDIA BAD". I have a 7 year old GPU and desperately need an upograde
It’s essentially the performance level of 3090 TI with DLSS 3 and 165W less TDP at a 60% price drop after 12 months. I don’t see why everyone is so mad. If the badge said 4080 instead of 4070 TI and had the same performance, no one would be crying.
That's because there lying about the name of the card and it's supposed to be a $600 dollar card may $650 it's overpriced that simple.
That is a good point, but I’m pretty sure there was an entire controversy over naming the card a “4080”
@@johnforsebury985 Yea they tried to sell us the 4070ti as a 4080 but they got caught the 4070ti isn't even a 4070ti it's like a 4060ti then the 4060 is a 4050 I don't have all the info about it but it's nothing but sketchy they basically cheaped out on the boards and are naming them a whole tier above and trying to sell them as such
@@MrAnony07 How are you going to say they are "lying" about the name on the card? LMAO. They made it. They can name it whatever tf they want. If the current 4080 was called the 4080 TI with the same price and performance it currently has, no one would be crying. It's just a damn name. It's dumb. Either the performance matches the price or it doesn't. I couldn't care less if they called the 4080 the 5090. Is it the second most powerful card on the market, yes or no?! Does the price reflect that power, yes or no!
Even at $899 and named 4080 12GB, the 4070 TI is still delivering near 3090 TI performance for 45% of the price just 10 months after the release of the 3090 TI had the 4080 12GB launched in November. The name means nothing.
@Marcus R Wtf are you talking about the 3090 TI is crap? Until the 4090 release just 5 months ago the 3090 TI held the spot for most powerful GPU on the market. This was only a year ago. And the 3090 TI still currently has the #4 spot under the 7900 XTX. The 4070 TI is currently ranked 5th most powerful on the market. But leave it to some internet guy to say both are just crap. Lol! 🤡
Just got it and I love it. Really quiet / low power consumption + ultra quiet.
Eyo bro the thumbnail was nice 😉
Just picked up the ASUS TUF OC 4070 Ti. Coming from a Ryzen 3600/2070 Super. Had to grab a mobo/CPU/PSU too. Went with a B550 and 5700X combo deal plus an 850W bronze that made the whole upgrade a bit more palatable. After the pandemic and crypto/GPU nightmare, I think I felt like "grab it now before it's even more expensive or unavailable". No regrets. If it gets me 3-4 years I'm good. I gotta say, I watched a metric ton of videos about the 4070 Ti before my purchase and while I get that prices are crazy, there's a serious echo chamber going on. I guess drama gets clicks. Your content is balanced and objective without the grievance that is so prevalent in reviews today. You got a new sub here. 👍
You know, The ones that hear everyone say the gpu is bad then copy off what they heard will hate. The fact for 800 the 4070 Ti isnt bad unless you wanna pay 1200 for a 4080 but people kinda cool with that lol
DLSS and other options make the 4070 a game changer as well which by its self its a strong card but the add ons make it even sicker
You have a very solid build and don’t need to worry about updating a damn thing for the next handful of years 😄. Maybe increasing your ram at the most!
@@_Paul_N Thanks Paul, you're right. 32 GB is the next bump. Just picked up an Intel 670p 2TB NVMe for under $100 on sale, felt like a good deal. Chipping away at the build. 👍
i think its good because you can pick up a 4070ti at microcenter for $799
Does that card have rgb in the gpu fans like the others? Or am i screwed because I got this card but no rgb in my gpu fans like I’ve seen in the previews of the product itself.
this video is what i was looking for. i am trying to buy a monitor for this and am stuck as i want to buy something that will last me for years. Dio you think the Allienware OLED could be useful or should i stick in buying a Samsung Odyssey G7 that everyone tells me to. It needs to be 32'. would appreciate your advise. thank you
I just built a rig with a 4070 ti and I was super excited so I youtubed some reviews and its all just bashing the hell out of the card... Thank you for providing context and not just saying "oh wait 5 years for the 9090 ti".
Congrats on your build! The problem with the 40 series is strictly the price to performance. The 4070 ti should cost at max 650-700$.
The 4070ti has about the same performance between 6950xt and 7900xt. If 4070 ti was going for 699 instead of around 850, it would be a much better buy! I really think the 16pin is terrible, I think I prefer the 8pin connectors.
It's much faster than the 7900XT and 6950XT. Where are you getting your information from?
@@lavaregion6968 its on par with a 3090ti.. if not worse. 7900xt is a tad faster. ray tracing it would be faster thats about it
With ray tracing it’s easily faster. Once u factor in dlss, xt has no hope. It’s crazy that xt is more expensive than this gpu
@@lavaregion6968 more faster 😂😂 the amd 6950 xt costs $650 on the official amd website end of story
@@DAG42085 yea that’s fair. And 6950xt is only like 10-15% slower so it’s a very good deal right now
I loved the video! I love the unbiased point of view. And i found this very informative! Not complaining and whining like everyone else lol. Hopefully i enjoy this card. I stream and play in 1080 p. I see apex running at almost 300 fps on 1080 lol. Thats nuts.
I feel the biggest issue comes from the fact that some reviewers are out of touch with their audience and don’t realize that a lot of us can’t just drop a couple g’s on a 4080-4090 plus all the supporting hardware to go with it, like my self I am running an omen 40L atm and it does have some paths to upgrade such as the psu, gpu, ram and the option for a 2nd ssd, I think the biggest thing to consider is the type of gaming someone’s doing like if you’re running a 4k monitor and need a gpu that can support the resolution sure go for a 4090 or a 4080, but dollar for dollar at 1440p a 4070 Ti could be an option, but that’s my opinion though.
Yes they need to bring the price back down. I got a FE 3070 ti for msrp and that was a steel at the time but about 2 months later most of the prices got back down to msrp and now I’m left wanting more considering I spent $650 on my gpu
The RTX 4070 Ti is seen performing up to 60% faster than the RTX 3070 Ti in select titles, and its 12GB Vram also makes it a better compute card. In Europe the 4070 Ti is roughly ~30% more expensive than the 3070 Ti, but generally it's a better value. So if you still can, consider returning your 3070 Ti.
It's the same cost as 3080 here, it's really strange, 3090 costs more .. guess it's a stock level thing 🤔
3080 better
@@lukespatola1184 not better then 4070 ti lol
@@RealRedClassy 3080 had better value when it came out
@@lukespatola1184 I ll exchange you my 3080 FE for 4070Ti any AIB... I ll wait
3080 is in bad place right now price wise, it makes zero sense to get a 3080 or ti over a 4070ti, where I’m at anyway.
Are you able to use this for 4K with an HDMI 2.1?
Better than a 3090 TI with half the power draw is actually pretty decent for the price if you can get it at or near MSRP.