Superheroes Have Gone 'Sexless'
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Pretty people make ugly people mad.
Now I understand the Brie Larson hate
I wonder why....
😂 You just said the reason for feminism.
@@actualnotanewbieno Brie Larson asked specifically that her character not look sexual she is the Hollywood live version of feminism.
Icing on the cake is her personality is so terrible go watch the interviews for the original Avengers cast can't stand to be near her during a scripted paid interview shilling endgame.
@@bestintheworld4850
Yeah it's kind of filled
With angry, unlikeable
people.
It's because this new breed of superheroes aren't actually women but male replacements with an outer female exterior. Essentially they're the Trans ideal.
That's exactly what they've
Been turned into.
The shinny ones
Good point
Excellent point
They are in no way trans ideal, seeing as most trans people do desire sex appeal.
This are more like the feminazi ideal, where they essentially want women to take over men, whilst ironically treating femininity as "oppresssion".
Look at modern comic books and beware: There is sex, but every character has been LGBTQed. When they go back to sex in movies, it won't be what you're hoping for.
There is gender, but there is no sex.
Sometimes, even with bears !
Which as we all know, is less dangerous than men (according to feminists).
They'd lose too much money internally. Anything HDLGTV needs to be a 30 sec edit.
Everything must be alphabet soupy, or it's not allowed. That's basically 'entertainment' now.
There’s actually a practical reason. Less sex means they can sell more tickets and reach a wider audience. Like the Chinese and middle eastern markets as well as the children PG demographics. Deadpool is the only exception because it’s an extremely popular brand in the adult segment of the movie viewing demographic.
Comicbookgirl19 (a.k.a. Danica) put it best in an older video of hers. She called them the "no fun Marvel mommies."
Read 1984.“The sexual act, successfully performed, was rebellion. Desire was thoughtcrime.”
@@botidobra6221Precisely. Unless it's the activists asking you to be aroused. In which case, lack of arousal is an actual crime.
The male superheros are less sexless, that is true, they are super gay.
They are pushing that more
& Treating the men like
objects but somehow
That's not bad to these
People lol.
Except for the man-on-man sex scenes, like in "Queer As Folk."
i see that picture of bree and i just think of quint's line from jaws "those lifeless, black eyes, like dolls eyes..."
It's wild because in her earlier roles she was beautiful. It's like as soon as she swallowed the feminist pill she caught the "ug"
Women were in love with Christopher Reeves after his Superman role. That's the kind of sex appeal modern male characters are missing.
They tell them you can't go sexy or comic accurate for sexy females, but every male character goes shirtless. Mortal Kombat changed when woke complained so they altered the females and have the males shirtless.
Except that controversy went to a complete dud when they released retro costume skins about less than 6 months later which featured sexy female costumes again.Yeah some the storylines like Jax thinking he's gonna end slavery in one single time travel trip is ultra stupid and Sho Khan's make Out world Great Again was completely cringe but in the end the wokeness was laughably little to nonexistent at best. Sure you had some asshole developers saying crap online to some fraction of the fanbase but all and in all it really was a big bit over exaggerated by RUclipsrs desperately looking for outrage clicks.
@@dantasticmania8728
They made the jax character
Think what?? Lol.
Yeah they have no problem
if it's a man being that way
Hypocrisy on display.
@@dantasticmania8728Na, you're completely wrong. Ed Boon and his studio completely went woke. They covered the women up too much. Why would you defend them?
Hypocrisy, much?!?!
"It's not a distain for relationships on screen, it's a distain for **heterosexual** relationships on screen." Perfectly said, but I would also add that not only that, they want to turn women specifically against relationships with men. You can't make men not want women, but you can make women not want men.
Yes. Because the default of women IS to not want men. A man has to become worthy of her desire, which is why we have so many stories about this from practically every era of history. A woman's most solemn duty is actually to NOT have sex. Having sex is the exception, not the rule.
@@kathycoleman4648 I don't agree with that. Women need men for protection, period. In order to get a man to risk his life, to slave away 12 hours a day and give up his free time to take care of her, she has to provide some kind of value to make him want to be her protector.
The women of the past knew this, as they knew how to cook or gave men children. Even when they had the right to work, they still knew having a man take care of them was preferable to working for a boss. Then LBJ allowed women to marry the government in exchange for kicking men out of the home and that all changed.
Now women don't technically need men because they have the government, but the government isn't going to pick them up from work or hold them at night or protect them from a violent intruder. And instead of admitting this they double down on the "I don't need no man" rhetoric, and then wonder why they're single and lonely.
At this point religious puritans have pretty much won. I wonder when the extreme left will reinvent the hijab and make that the default costume for female superheroes. Not an inch of skin in sight. No male gaze.
@@kathycoleman4648Substantiate your arguments. Which stories. What salient aspect of women do you refer to while making these claims. Stuff like that. Because by your logic, a species extinction would be the end goal of women's biological instinct.
@@TG-ge1ohwhy are you trying to act like god.
Young people have been polled to say they'd like less nudity & less sex scenes in movies. They've also said they'd like more platonic relationships. Somehow, writers have interpreted this to mean no desire for romance or sex. The characters on screen still need to be relatable. They still need to be human.
Yeah….. but that is so contradictory….. if you see all the “shipping fan art”….. also all the sex you see in shows like Euphoria, Elite, Gossip Girl Reboot…..
If that were the case, the male superheroes would be sexless too.
Not arguing with the poll, but I think the results are bc most young people are socially awkward and don’t like seeing that. Our social media, socially stunted society is turning the new generations asexual.
no, we really don't want to see that when superhero movies are aimed at younger audiences. what are you on about, degenerate?
If you wanted it to be relatable then shouldn’t the male characters be the sexless ones?
Watch the original Tomb Raider movie with Angelina Jolie. People slate it but it's excellent imo. And how does she behave? Sexual but confident; entire movie is driven by the father-daughter relationship; movie starts with her in a TRAINING session, showing the audience she earns her skills and is no Mary Sue. Critics hated it. And what a great sound track too.
I always use the first Wonder Woman movie as an example of a powerful woman who doesn't shy away from her femininity.
They dock video game movies 20 points just because they're video game movies
Maggie Q's Nikita on her TV show too,@@gammasmash1924.
Angelina Jolie at her prime was a perfect Lara Croft. I barely remember anything about the reboot Lara Croft based on the Square Enix trilogy.
Isn't that the one where her love interest suddenly turned evil for no reason?
That's easy if they even hinted at the slightest sexual energy of any kind, those same people calling it "woke" (whatever the fck that means) would be crying its too sexual for their kids or husbands or whatever else makes them wake up in a cold sweat at night. they (female "superheroes" in the live-action) are dammed if they do, dammed if they don't. while im not trying to make my statement political, this "problem" clearly sits on the one side of politics and why we are where we are and anyone who says otherwise is clearly lying to themselves. Lets take Rogue for instance, if Hollywood makes her as sexual as the comics or even the 92 animated series in finding an actress who could handle those figures, she could be as "woke" as hell as a character but due to her outfit or body, the same people using the word "woke" would lose their minds about her body and the actress would most likely end up having to delete her social media accounts.
That's the problem with the Right. Most of them were never actually "Right", they're just mad that the Woke Left intruded into their personal spheres. That's why they keep using past examples of "real females" as a counter to wokeness that generations ago WERE considered feminist icons. TPTB know that these masses can easily be placated by upping the sex factor while keeping the woke messaging. But there are also true believers who refuse to do that, out of "moral duty".
Agreed.
I didn't entirely buy this video's arguments myself.
Even Superman and Wolverine didn't have an immunity to the critters they have.
CRITTERS?
What's messed up is Madame Web was sexless even though elderly Madame Web in the comics even had a bit of sex appeal.
As right as you probably are that’s one of the funniest sentences I’ve ever read. 😂😂😂
@@kareemmasri3934 we live in weird world 🤣
What messed up madame web was that it was a complete piece of crap movie!
@@thedarknate08 you're not wrong
It's not just sexiness, it's femininity that's disappearing. Just make their costumes flattering to their female form instead of trying to hide it. I guess that's why Brie Larson's tank top got so much attention.
Yes. Same here. Thought I did notice in thor 1&2 that they gave Portman a push up bra but made sure kat dennings giant sweater hams were well hid, probably to make it kid friendly and for kat dennings not to outshine Portman
I can tell you the answer: Because Americans, yes, most likely only the Americans, feel now uncomfortable with genders and old gender roles. The French folks for example rebooted one of their older shows recently, Totally Spies, and gave the main girls new designs, but the trio still look like women.
The Americans or the American Left?
Another example is Valerian And The City Of A Thousand Planets. I'm not sure it is a French movie, but certainly a French Director. The lead female (Cara Delevingne) is incredible, and the whole movie is filled with sexual tension.
Honestly I don't like Sam's new hair I don't know why but I rather the old hair .
@@whenpigsfly8178 american the right side of the politics. i assure you the left could give a rats ass. we actually enjoy entertainment. we don't use words like woke or then slut shame women which seems to be the only two sides most people on that side of the realm, live in.
@@whenpigsfly8178Do you think people from other countries care? Do you think they think “oh this guy must be a leftist but some of his countriemen are probably right”
because NO, no one cares or bothers to think, the leftists make all of you look bad, and if you want the rest of the world to actually respect you, you should control them.
P.P.S. I watched some of X-men '97 at my brother's house, and it's awesome, but regardless, I refuse to support Disney with everything they've done. They're all manipulative usurpers who lead fans along because they know that we love these stories; and so they drop us crumbs while defiling the soul of these companies they've acquired.
I just ripped off the scab. Let it scar.
The main reason why recent female superheroes have become "sexless" is that their characters are being written as caricatures of what the woke DEI writers think of as men. This means these characters don't effectively present themselves as strictly male or female, thus the awkward sense of "asexualness". It's almost like their overall character personas have been shoved into the uncanny valley of human sexuality such that the majority of the audience can't sympathize or relate to them as believable people.
I'll never forget Xena: Warrior Princess! ❤🔥
Kyle Rayner, a k a. Green Lantern was the one who found his girlfriend, Alex Dewitt's body found in the fridge. Issue 54 of the mag.
On the other hand, it was Mister Freeze that put his own wife in the fridge.
Fridging is a utter dumb concept
The amount of male characters
That die for female leads is
exactly the same, it's almost
Like they want female characters
To get preferential treatment.
I have that very comic book.
@@elongatedmanforever1252No, they just want gaming and media to collapse. They see it as a boys' club (which it is, but not intentionally so), and alongside fridging, every other treatment of women in games and media are categorised as harmful tropes by these activists. You can have a woman killing men, and they'll it shows her as too ruthless. Men killing women, they'll say women are being victimized. Men killing men, they'll say women are being excluded. Women killing women, they'll say the protagonist is actually a man. I'm not exaggerating. Check out the tropes vs women series by Sarkeesian. Anything that has women, is bad according to them. Anything that doesn't have women, is bad, also according to them. Solution? Create nothing.
These characters and Rey are kids in the bodies of adults. Really weird and disturbing when you see it
How so??
Well, this is the generation of adult children after all.
@@elongatedmanforever1252watch the video to get your answer
As a life long fan of superheroes and comics , I don’t care that they’re no sex scenes in superhero films. I just enjoy them as it is.
Let's not forget the original captain Marvel was a male and had a romantic relationship with Carol's mis Marvel.
Sylvie in Loki Marvel series was so bland i didnt recognize her. Geeks and Gamers did a perfect segment about this where even a woman said she wants more sexy women, similar to the comics.
Sylvie should be draw dropping
That is why I prefer the Marvel version of the Enchantress over Sylvie from "Loki."
Sylvie I found alright until I realized she was a female Loki and that she was having a romance with Loki. Who thought that selfcest was a good idea?
@@nesrovlahsurvivalist8399 Sylvie is a Loky that is female and has no genetic relationship with Loky, selfcest is conceptual here.
@@ManuelAngelMartin-om4xy Wouldn’t she just be him with xx instead of xy. That would be like Wolverine having a relationship with an adult X23. It's not good.
@@nesrovlahsurvivalist8399 Loky was the adopted son of a giant and Silvy I think was not adopted now i am not sure
We're living in a loveless society. It's shocking when you watch movies before the 2010s. We need real romance bad in this nation.
Should include Star Wars in that
Valeria from Conan the barbarian
Enter the Marvelpause
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It"s all to please the transformer overlords.....
I am fine not to have a bunch of freaking ROMANCE in my movies,
I hate it in my comic books, I personally skip over the romantic stuff in the comics I read.
I hate all of the “ oh I hope he or she loves me.” Or “oh do I dare tell do and so how I feel.” Stan lee was always writing love, love, love,love. And the 1940’s, 1950’s did not do all of that garbage. Marvel and dc starting in the 60’s for marvel stuffed their comics with love drivel. Dc ( minus Lois) did not start really pushing the love envelope.
It makes me sick, I have always hated it. I skip past it every time I read a comic. And in the movies I skip past it. I read comics and go to superhero shows are for the action and fighting. No freaking romance.
And before you say you live in your parents basement. Been in relationships since I was 15 , been married for 34 years and I still hate this crap in my books and movies.
Keep the fanboy beat off stuff out of my comics and movies.
IDK do woman even want it
For context, i'm a foreign 26year old who cares more for looking good&health then romance, i wound't know anyways
A newer example of this phenomenon is in Guardians of the Galaxy 3. In Guardians 1 you could actually see Nebula's body in her outfit, in Guardians 3 they put her in this frumpy jacket that covers everything up. Strange move there in my opinion.
Lynda Carter was cool.
Yes, the 2nd Wonder Woman.
Hollywood invested a huge amount of money to understand what young people claimed they wanted. The movies were produced and the fans did not show up. Catering to polls is no substitute to good story telling. The movies are too regulated and rigid. The pandering towards political correctness is making the movies so boring that watching a film in a theatre feels like a chore.
Most sex is strictly gratuitous. That's the problem. Nobody complained about Wonder Woman 1 when the camera panned out the window and the lights went out. Most young people are over exposed to porn, they don't need things in your face in their mainstream entertainment. Previous generations either went out of their way to find the hardstuff otherwise they got small doses of it in mainstream films.
Mary's deadpan delivery is great.
Representative of our society.
Ugliness is celebrated.
It’s sexless or raunchy, never in the middle where people can be sensual without being bland or degenerate
This is true, everything in art is polarized. Im a graphic artist and I see this at the places I work for.
Old movies and shows were capable of doing this. But no one has ever watched them in modern times, or kneejerk anything old as "patriarchy".
Exactly! Gone is fun, sexy and flirtatious. It's either puritanical and platonic or its emotionless graphic intercourse.
I think you should be asking why sex should be in movies or comics for kids.
First, kids play "doctor," have crushes, genders, and orientations, go through puberty, date, and grow up eventually. Secondly, comics since the '80s appeal to adult audiences, due to the '90s antiheroes blowing away drug dealers, terrorists, evil ninjas, LGBT characters, femme fatales, erotic thriller plots, etc.
Pokémon Go character creation
Where are Sydney Sweeny's hooters? Not a single topic about anything can be covered without bringing up a photo of those miracles
OMG The There's nothing behind the eyes comment moment in this vid with the dude overlapping as she said the last part made the comedic timing even better. This played like it was scripted the beats here were so good. Well done guys. So was the Bree Larson sex it up photo and trafficking comment. Spot on
Modern movie theory: "we want female characters to be judged by thier character and deeds". Well, no character or actions worth talking about.
marvel movies are nothing to marvel at
Every promo I saw for The Marvels had Brie in that white tank top. If that's "sexless," I've been doing it wrong for a long time.
But they put her in a wrinkly uniform, unlike female superheroes of yesteryear.
That wasn't an undershirt tank top like what you see with Sigourney Weaver in Alien, that's a "going out" tank top. It's not inherently sexual like what you would see on an actual woman in an intimate setting.
Yes you have
Wonderwoman and black widow disagree. That said, is it really that bad to leave the "sexy" out of it?
It's been done to death.
The dying box office says it's a horrible thing
The ironic, that most of actresses who played superhero’s are attractive in real life.
The exact same thing has happened in video games and fantasy artwork in games.
Look what happened to that one character on gaurdians 2 to 3. The bald female character think shes blue. She had a figure then she had nothing
I don't watch any of the new marvel film's
Problem solved
But deadpool is a must watch
Don't bother. Save your money/time, read the Wikipedia plot summary & watch the best bits on YT.
I'm good bruh.
Dr. Who-wise, I have a lot of Tom Baker videos and a few Tarrant/Smith era collections. I’ll collect and watch the old stuff with no budget and good characters over this crap they’ve been excreting for years now.
😮 well of course don't you know the story of Spider-Man😮 he was bitten by a radioactive spider and then freed of all human weakness and limitations😮 including sex appeal😮 he no longer interact with any other human😮 Mary j never heard of her😮 his only mission is to stop crime relentlessly😮 once you get super powers you become a relentless AI about 3 months later😮
What on Earth are you talking about? Wanda was in a relationship with Vision. Wonder Woman had Chris Pine as the love interest. Black Widow had a romance with Banner. Gamora had Star Lord. Miss Marvel and Kate Bishop are just teenagers, so that wouldnt really be appropriate. If you just ignore all the examples that run counter to your narrative, maybe you have a point, maybe?
Because "They don't need no man"
Yep it's feminism.
As a fan of Action movies, the romance and drama I can happily do without, just gimme action!
Nerds are fascinating. Most nerds are male. Male nerds are stereotypically awkward, which impacts their dating lives. Female nerds are awkward, too....but can still easily get action if they really want it. So a lot of male nerds are sexually repressed. Which is why they like hot female characters so much (which I FULLY support, btw). But when it comes to movies, which are more digestible to female nerds....male nerds suddenly need to pretend they're offended by the sexual representation of real actresses and characters, because they are desperately trying to suck up to their female peers. That's all it is. All of thus. That's all it comes down to. Male nerds lying to impress female nerds.
It's the difference between Steve Rogers and Thor having love interests in the early days, and what became of Peggy Carter and Jane Foster once they had to transform into 'strong female characters.' It's the change from Black Widow using her sex appeal as a weapon, to it quietly not being one of her tools anymore. And it's why Nebula has a man's body, and Gamora is an absolute bitch in the highly over-praised GotG 3. Women don't want to be the motivation for male heroes, and they also don't want their own motivations to be about getting a man. They've made this very clear. So bye-bye superhero romance, and good luck getting anyone to remember how to write you well. That's how we get Wonder Woman 84, which DID have sex, but the way they did it....
And don't get me started on the male gaze. Black Panther established shirtless trial by combat for the rights to the throne. Think we could have gotten that for Shuri? In your dreams! And the excuse they hide behind is "It's not practical!" Which is why costume designs have gotten so boring. So you best believe Jessica Alba in her Fantastic Four suit > Whatever Marvel has planned for the reboot
@@DagmarRokita667 And when you go insane with that mindset, and make it your god, modern Hollywood and wokeness is the end result.
Cuz MaLe GaZE!
You both are about 3 years late on this topic, other big time youtubers already tackled this years ago. However it is good to see that this is something yahh are discussing. And in this intersectionality era of society I don't see this issue getting fixed anytime soon. Especially since there are unspoken rules( and in some cases loudly spoken rules) about how sex and more importantly, how females/women are written in this now new society. If anyone is still interested on this topic I suggest checking out a youtuber by the name baggage claim, who is on the rise for her contribution to dissecting this very issue.
Look what they did to black widow
They are supercels, duh!
It's over, never began for lgbt feminist heroes. 😔
They pushed that crap & see
Where it's got us.
Not just superhero movies, but I've been noticing this in other movies and TV shows (and we've all seen this in games), seeing less attractive even plain looking women and even making well known sexy women look plain, I remember when watching the dungeon and dragons movie that for a fantasy movie they didn't have any attractive characters not even in the background, in our main group we have a masculine female and a little sister like character, even the actress who played the wife/mother who died looked really plain and I couldn't see her as a love interest in any way to the male character.
I mean Lord of the Rings characters didn’t wear much in the way of ‘sexy’ or ‘sensual’ clothing and it’s one of the greatest trilogies of all time so that’s not really a deterrent for most people.
These shows are PG-13
Different women use different strategies. Some women braid their hair into pigtails like a little girl, and use makeup to make their eyes look bigger like a child, so men will think they're innocent and in need of protection and special treatment.
They weren't. Hollywood did that for woke.
Yes they did & I hate it.
Yeah we need attractive
Characters To come back &
have good personalities, because
its not Just sex appeal that's missing
Its also personality.
Well back when Netflix had some of the rights to the Marvel series they had no issues pushing the envelope with their content ! Jessica Jones is one of those series and she's not much of a superhero she's kind of a hoe with super strength ❗💪
You lost me at "brie larson's an attractive woman"
Lmao. So true.
Watch the Star Trek episode "Spock's Brain," and you'll see a possibility of the human future.
I guess that guy didn't see Marvel's Eternals movie, which had the first sex scene in the MCU as well as an interracial same sex kiss moment.
There was also Thor: Love & Thunder, with Thor and Jane getting back together as well as Chris Hemsworth making out with his real life wife.
There was the will-they / won't-they relationship between Gamora and Star-Lord.
There was also the classic "Genius. Billionaire. PLAYBOY. Philanthropist."
There is also every live-action film version of Catwoman... EVER!!!
Shirtless men doesn't necessarily mean appealing to women. Think about Conan the barbarian. It's probably as much about men imagining themselves as the hero. But yeah, it seems weird if adult motivations are removed from movies, but The Marvels made multiple attempts to imply that female characters were either in relationships or - failing that - mindless hooking up. The costumes thing seems superficial as a measure. If you think about great film romances, often they would be between two fully dressed people. I mean, it's been a while since I saw them, but I liked The Boxer and Last of the Mohicans. In those, the male lead was Day Lewis. The female leads were Madeleine Stowe and Emily Watson. No leather catsuits that I can remember.
Yes, I always thought that Brie Larson was a good looking actor and woman, they literally went out of their way to reduce her sex appeal.. As a man I tend to go to movies if they have sex appeal, not if they don't.
She-hulk twerked but i think they allowed that because no one wanted to see a big green goblin doing that.
If a man wanted her to, it's bad.
If SHE wants to on HER terms, it's good.
@@Dragblacker if a guy wants her to and she wants to then also bad.
Wonder Woman?
Scarlett Witch?
Black Widow?
Lady Thor?
Is it possible that this is simply not true of anyone but Captain Marvel? And that she’s not so much sexless as maybe in a relationship with Valkyrie?
Thor: L&T was porn for modern women. You had Thor bossed around by Strong Girl-Bosses the whole movie. Jane Thored better than Thor did. King Valkyrie was the King. The first act of the movie is him working out, going from "dad-bod to god-bod." (Quote FROM THE MOVIE.) And then you had him chained up and naked, while being ogled by everyone. How does it end? With Thor in an apron, playing Daddy to a little girl who disrespects him.
If anyone actually saw it, there wouldn't be a dry seat in the house.
It's all about an agenda. They purposefully make the Women infallible because showing weakness is considered "Sexist", when in fact not being perfect and having flaws and going through struggle and issues is what makes us human and relatable. This is a HUGE reason why no one likes most of these female Superhero movies. Ironman & Dr. Strange were arrogant buttholes and had to be humbled because of it, even causing Strange to lose his love interest, and Stark also almost lost Pepper over it. Starlord was arrogant & selfish and became more selfless, even giving up his role as leader by the end. Thor had all his powers striped away and had to be humbled to be in position to become worthy again of being Thor, let alone King. Antman was a former Criminal. Most of the Men in the MCU are no where NEAR perfect, have HUGE flaws they have to overcome, and this growth is what makes them relatable and thus likeable. They also give them love interest and therefore "Something worth fighting for". However, with female characters, they can not make it seem like "A Man" is "Somethin worth fighting for". So much of the current "Feminist ideology" is not a out equality, or even "female Empowerment", but more so about demeaning and diminishing any and all aspects of traditional "Feminine qualities" as "Weak", only valuing Women through a lens of "Traditionally Masculine Qualities" in order to be considered "Valuable", while simultaneously trying to "Put down Men" and "Prove" how much "Men are not needed". This is why the vast majority of Men in these films have to be bumbling idiots who couldn't tie their own shoes if they tried. Modern Feministic ideology teaches Women that being "Feminine is Weak" and that their value and happiness in life comes from Degrees, Climbing Corporate Ladders, & Materialism. Yet when you ask people on their death bed, they will tell you that what they valued the most was the Friends, Families, & Loved ones, including Romantic Interest, and the memories of the loving experiences they shared with them. They will tell you that they wish they had more of that, not more Gucci Bags. As humans we are social creatures, always have been and always will be. In fact, isolationism can in fact be detrimental, as humans left alone can even go crazy, this is why too much solitary confinement for even prisoners is considered "Cruel & Unusual Punishment". It's like we can't walk & chew bubble gum. Yes, back in the 30s & 40s Women were seen as their ONLY VALUE was being a Wife & Mother, but that doesn't mean the opposite that being a Wife or Mother has NO VALUE and therefore is sexist and should not be desired or wanted. They do this because single people spend more money on Materialistic items to fill the hole in their heart from being alone, it benefits Capitalism. And movies like Captain Marvel are stuck fighting a battle that Men have not been pushing for over 50 years that Women's ONLY VALUE is sexist ideas like her "being in the Kitchen", hardly no one is saying that. I find more Men that can cook today, an essential HUMAN quality for anyone living as an adult than I do Women because Women tried so hard to NOT teach their daughters how to cook to "Prove a point", and now, when they inevitably have children cause most are having sex, they spend MORE MONEY buying fast food & junk food to feed their kids. The battle they are fighting is ridiculous, It's like, "Yeah, I'm going to spend more money & feed my children poison to fight Patriarchy & to stick it to the Man!" 🙄.
Certainly not a new argument. I have seen and heard variations of this argument, for lack of a better term, on 'Right/Libertarian' media cites since the internet became universal. It surprises me still that, rarely mentioned in this (and I found this discussion far more articulate than most) is the rise in the last twenty or so years of small independent film studios that cater specifically to the Male Superhero Film audience's interest in female characters that exude sexuality as well as power. I am specifically thinking of Next Global Crisis (out of England); Zen Pictures (in Japan); The Battle for Earth (custom studio in the Pacific Northwest); Alzi Productions (a Russian RUclips channel that also has a subscription-based element) ...the list is now neigh endless. I assume the community for this channel is not altogether unfamiliar with them...and some of their output is quite good! The whole thing is rather brilliantly parodied by Adam Warren's indie b&w book 'Empowered'. So, I guess I would argue that rather than 'disappearing' from mainstream Hollywood, largely because of perceived political and cultural disagreements, this has been relegated to a 'niche' market. Thoughts?
It´s a sort of pendulum move. The women in all these movies were originally oversexuallized. Now it´s the opposite. Just wait for the next pendulum move.
Yeah, the girl-in-the-fridge trope comes from Green Lantern. It was also one of thr complaints raised by Anita Sarkeesian when discussing the roles played by women in games. The problem with the woke activism take on media is, that what should've happened is the existence of alternate treatment of races and genders in media. What they did do, is the replacement of existing media with gender-neutral, sex-neutral, and race-neutral media. Instead of every audience getting what they want, nobody gets what they want.
Because kids are drawn to superheros. I don't need to see batman getting down to enjoy a superhero movie. Same for Black Canary or Catwoman.
i don't care about sex-scenes myself, but it's because they don't want the male audience to enjoy themselves.
Why would Disney make a super sexy superhero? They are going to make a female character neutral so that there are no superficial gaze in a PG movie. It's not that deep. There is not a person sitting there trying to deter masculinity. You can't project your personal feelings. I'm a man,, trust me, I still want women and like being a real man with pride and integrity. This conversation is way too deep and headed down a dead end. Be happy with Madame Web having teens dance on tables trying to be sexy.
Given slightly less rigid ideological constraints, Brie Larson may well have leaned into showing off her curves a little more in her last film. She's big into her workouts, and has put a lot of work into improving her body to look more superheroic. What a waste!
With great power comes great responsibility. You don’t have time for sex if you are busy saving the world.
Completely unrelated to the video topic but if there's any wrestling fans out there, does anyone think the chap on the right looks very vaguely like Roderick Strong from AEW or is it just me?
I like you guys (other than Mary’s oxcent), but what about the white tank that Capt Marvel wears in the most recent movie? That was accidentally sex-ish, maybe?
I mean..there kinda for kids right? I havent seen a superhero movie since X-men days of future past, so maybe there not for kids anymore but i would think they would be sexless for that reason.
Even in the cw supergirl she only had fleeting romances. Meanwhile the flash and arrow had girlfriends and wives.
Because intimacy requires the woman to have respect and even admiration for the man and if they were ever to create an admirable male character, he might be both sympathetic, which… they can’t have that, and he would also inevitably have qualities that all the feminists would call toxic but the rest of us would say constitute “healthy self-respect”, and they also… can’t have that.
Comicbooks were a niche medium of entertainment. Now that it's popular and with movies, that means no more bikini babes, no more T & A.
I was not only growing watching and or reading stuff with strong male characters i was named after one of them. And when i look and at modern protagonists or characters i feel second hand embarrassement. Sexless, manless, senseless, uncharismatic and often just stupid.
You guys remember the stupid trailer of C Marvel moving her arms angrily? who does that? 5 year old kids?
God forbid they promote a healthy relationship between an attractive man and woman in comics these days, Superman and Lois seems to be the one outlier in the live action space right now but I don't know how much longer it'll go if it hasn't finished filming yet.
Man explained fridging wrong. That’s not why It’s bad.
Well people complained about She-Hulk.
Harley?
The Boys?
Marvel and DC were largely victims of the comic book code (CCA) which limited their ability have sexual situations written, this compared to the more independent labels like Image, Dynamite or Dark Horse who published a whole range of comics (Manga included) that featured stories with sex.
Brie Larson is beautiful?! She looks like Alicia Vikander = like a little kid. Both have no talent in acting.
There's nothing wrong with sexuality, there's nothing wrong with sex in film, I love porn. But do all movies NEED sexuality in them? I think not
It’s a multilayered issue but one way to describe what is happening is that this is what the political side wants to push. They don’t want to push attractiveness or anything sexy, especially when it comes to the “male gaze”. They’ve even said that they want to “enforce behaviors” and even how we think about things. It’s ultimately about control, which is why we don’t get anything truly creative anymore.
That is actually creative decisions made my Hollywood executives fearing sexual harassment lawsuits, rather than feminists writing and directing comic book movies.
See now what would be a really interesting thing to see is not only a superhero who is a woman who you can tell as a woman but a superhero that is perpetually pregnant because her superpower is the ability to transfer unborn babies about to aborted to her womb then disperse them to barren women along with restoring her fertility. Ill come up with some names i think it would be pretty damn awesome.
Interesting idea, I'd like to hear more.
Because these awful woke writers believe that if the heroine has a man in her life it’s a sign of weakness. Nobody is watching this crap because the writing is terrible