Wanted to create a video outlining what Superman is too me, why he's still so important, and why I love everything about the character, would love to hear from you what aspect of Superman you gravitate too towards most !!
I think Superman needs to be fixed and this is not coming from an mcu fanboy especially after the fact that I found Endshame to be just awful. But Superman does need to be fixed. Zack Snyder just deconstructed the character of Superman now if it was his version of Superman of a different name and universe than I wouldn't be so against him creating a deconstruction of the archetype. But he and WB used the name of Superman to make money off of him Now one would say that the golden age Superman can't work in modern times which isn't true because Superman is a character that transcends time. Now let's say if that argument was true and that golden age Superman can't work in modern times than why bother making a Superman film if you can't adapt him without changing him?
@@anungunrama2601 I disagree Superman does not beed changing at allI feel like we will focus on the wrong thing when they talk about and what will your problems with endgame
@UCcxFA25K5mPjW4O_d8tHPkw first I'm very glad that you said that that the iconic doesn't need changing but the realistic grounded superman does go check out nando v movies rewrite of Man of steel it's 4 parts before I start talking about this I'm an mcu Fanboy but I'll say this MCU is flawed I feel like deep down most MCU Fanboys won't admit it anyway I actually liked that door I thought his character Arc was very unique and made him more human same with the hulk I actually didn't find any problem with Natasha stagg I'll admit I didn't expect it but that thing really baffled me or anytingask for Steve Rogers I don't think it really contradicted his character since that's what he always desired if you watch The avengers age of Ultronalthough if you look at his stories they always change with the times but the character stays the same so I can understand that from the comic side but the MCU version not so much I don't know maybe if you gave me more details I would understand
Which is why you should never give in to cynism. Especially in this day and age. Batman can be cynical at times. But at the very core of his character, he's just a guy who's trying to do the right thing. Same thing with superman. He's not a very cynical person, but he wants to do the right thing.
@Kryptoskillet but batman has good values too and that's why people don't understand batman superman or literally any other comic character they're so much more complicated then just edgy or outdated
@DJHart well thats why characters like batman or spiderman or akira fudo from devilman exist they are people who experienced pain and suffering, they are supposed to be idols to follow, a good example They always think about the other person which is why batman does not kill because he values life These people went through unimaginable pain and still they kept thier values. Projecting youre trauma into other people no matter how bad what you went through still makes you a bad person because you think the world revolves around you and that people are inferior to you Thats why characters like the joker are still considered evil
The only person at DC who I really liked and looks good is Bat Man and Wonder Woman. The look from aside from Bat Man and WW was for me always to boring, and the super powers were never got presented well, but with the new Superman Film and the new Aqua Man Film was the costume cool, but the look from the DC movies were never touched by this so much. Marvel has done much more with a looks, Spider Man has a ass full of costumes, same with Captain America, X Men so on, on, on. The Powers of this two Super Heros were never be so represented within the two movies. But the Comics are not touched by this...
The reason no one understands him is because he's human an most humans don't want to be human. So to "Those people" Superman is unrelatable because they don't know what it means to be a human being. Sure we throw around labels claim this an that things like race etc etc but people now don't wanna claim is human. Everyone wants to be better then other people either by being a top of the pyramid or being a victim to gain attention, They know there human but they don't understand what it means to be human.
@@deathoftheendless1371 absolutely, nowadays people aren't as empathetic but they'd rather be indifferent and apathetic. even my generation don't have anyone morally right to look up too as an idol.
@@MW-dd8vk human beings don't understand how powerful they are, that the simple steps an simple ways of being are god like, if you strip the ideas of the slave mentality that we are just walking bags of flesh an nothing more, you will see that the god like power is child like, that imagination is real. what would our world be like if there was no imagination? There would be nothing, one point in time we thought only angels can fly, then we create something out of imagination in a time were people said it was impossible but now we look up in the sky an see planes an think nothing of it because it's normal to us now but it's beautiful, it's our ability, it's what creates reality, we create things we are gods we are children an that's the best we can be, wise children who follow our hearts an not the words of others who want to put us down. To me Superman is the story of the human soul the human spirit, Superman is Clark Kent's critique on the human race, that we can be great people, he's not trying to be better then us he's trying to take the best of us an make something special out it. Superman is the Child god within us. An to people who are lost they find him unrelatable, But anyone I mean anyone can relate to him. Jewish , Asian , transgender , straight whatever. He's for all of us an he's not perfect he makes mistakes he doesn't always have the answers but he knows right from wrong an dose the best that he can. But yeah You an others, me all of us we are more don't ever believe we're not, lose yourself to your imagination. Because your not wasteing your time on something fake your entering the world of power, yes we can't fly in this reality but in imagination we can an if you believe that if you truly believe that, wow,,,, I don't have any more words to say what you'll feel, maybe it's up to all of us to find out, it's all different for all of us, but it's all simple an similar,
I think that Superman is just a nice dude, that's what makes him special. I LOVE my tragic heroes (Spider-Man is my personal favorite). But he shows that you can be a hero without having a tragic back story. You can be powerful, privileged even, and not be a douchebag about it. He,s an alien from another world, with powers to do whatever he desires, with few people able to stop him. Even with all that, he strives to be a nice, humble dude. And despite being the epitome of American values, he was used (in the 40's and 50's no less!) He was used to fight racism, xenophobia and hated. Fun fact, in the radio show Superman fought a version of the KKK. After that episode aired, KKK membership fell dramatically. And that only worked because Superman is Superman. He's an American symbol that holds as much weight as Uncle Sam or the eagal. When he made a poster in the 50's saying that racism and prejudice were "un-American" people believed it because a personification of American values, real American values, was telling you so. That's special. I also say, If Superman can be nice, if Superman can be a human, if this alien can be an American without being prejudiced, what's your excuse? I think my Superman is the one from the 90's show, with Christopher Reeve being a close second.
@@Maniacfusion69 Ah, that is a fair point. I should amend. Compared to other heroes, Superman doesn’t have as much backstory baggage. Spider-Man (my favorite hero) is constantly guilt ridden because he never got over his uncles death. So Peter blames himself for everything, even when it wasn’t really his fault. Batman never got over his parents death, and he (really the writers) CONSTANTLY bring it up. Unlike most heroes, Superman isn’t guilt ridden over his past. When Superman broods, he broods in the moment, not about Krypton or his dead dad. So compared to other heroes, he has a less tragic story. This makes him unique, and I enjoy that about him. Superman just saves the day because he feels like it, not because he feels guilty. Perhaps that’s a comfort food thing to like, but I enjoy comfort food sometimes.
Massive Superman fan here. I’m glad superman is getting positive publicity. Superman is a simple man doing the right thing with his attributes. Superman started it all imo, without superman comic books wouldn’t be as big as they are today as well as the past decades. He is the man of tomorrow and the most powerful hero of all time.
Don't know how thinking like one the smartest people in DC who isn't always a villain more like antihero against Superman and anyone who is a writer would know it's better for someone to start at rock bottom for an interesting story then someone who's already at the top also be born with a power isn't really the problem have you ever heard of the aang he starts at rock bottom and becomes really powerful and in the story he does have an advantage over most other people he did master air bending but his story is still satisfied because he doesn't house World destroying power or really even City destroying power at the start but he has amazing character development because he started near the bottom. I like Superman but criticizing people that thinks like Lex for one thing is stupid Lex thinks Superman's powerful and so do everyone else also anyone who's a writer will usually agree that a character at the bottom is usually more developed when he gets to the top then someone who just started at the top
@@dailycatsandgaming3178 Hey sorry, but I don’t really understand what you mean when you talk about characters who start at rock bottom or what it has to do with Lex or Supes. Maybe u could explain it to me if you’d like. But basically the reason Lex’s thought process is wrong is because not only is he one of the most cynical characters out there, but he’s also one of the most egotistical, childish, and petty characters in DC. That’s what makes his character contrast so well with Clark yk. Basically, Lex focuses on the power Superman has and how “inferior” we are compared to him instead of focusing on what Superman actually does with that power. How he respects the good people of earth. How he inspires us to do good. How he’s a friend who’s just trying to help. That’s why Lex is such a good villain. Not because he poses the biggest threat, but because he’s the complete opposite of Clark. Hope I answered your question. Not really sure if I did tho since I’m kinda confused on your comment as a whole 😅. Just tryna help
People who want to make specifically "edgy" characters, yeah, cringe. Anyone who makes a character with such specific characteristics, can lead to cringe. I look at pro wrestling. So heavily scripted, nothing feels organic. Stone Cold got over not just because he was "the disgruntled employee fighting his evil boss", but because of how natural he made his character look. He didn't cuss because it made him seem "cool and edgy", he did it because a) it comes naturally to him the person, and b) it comes naturally to the character. It's easy to say "this character is doing good just because," or that "this character is doing evil just because." In *SOME* cases, some, it works. Superman does what he does because of the way he was raised(a good-hearted country boy from a loving family, I think I just found my connection☺). Then you have "evil for no reason", not in Lex, but in Joker. He is chaos incarnate, madness personified. I consider myself both seeing the way the world could be, and the way the world is. I believe all life is precious, but I know there are bad folks who would view what I have as worth dying to take(even if they didn't think they'd die trying to take it). I have a veritable library of characters in my mind. Could some fall under the label of "edgy"? That's up to the reader, I just write the story as it flows. Two of my all-time favorite heroes in comics are, ironically, Batman and Punisher. I like the tough idealism of Batman, but I understand that, sometimes, you gotta know when to squeeze the trigger. I like Blade, not because he's edgy(a cutting pun☺), but because I like the idea of a vampire hunting vampires(and other monsters). Gambit, a fellow Cajun☺. Do I like Superman? Yes, and like I said, I just discovered a connection. I am more of a Batman fan, but the gap has shrunk☺.
@@wildside316 loved your wrestling analogy, especially being a fellow (and lifelong) wrestling fan. I'm a massive Superman fan and also a big Batman fan. I love the dynamic between both characters and how although they both have different methods they both fight for the same cause. They're almost like 2 brothers who have different philosophies but when it comes down to it they've got each others backs no matter what and there's probably no one else that either of them trusts more than the other (especially in Batman's case).
Remember that in Kingdom Come that is heavily implied Lois Lane was amongst the victims of Joker’s mass killings at the Daily Planet. Yet despite the fact Joker killed Superman’s wife he still protested Magog murdering the clown prince in cold blood. THAT is a real hero.
@@starpaladinnelaj The comics change the context of this. Lois’ death and the destruction of Meteopolis is portrayed as the straw that broke the camel’s back, not the only thing at hand. Superman’s main reason there is the constant, overwhelming amount of threats to Earth that prevent him from living a normal life and put great strain on his mental health.
This video is perfect, even I personally liked Superman in Man of Steel because I thought he would grow to become better and eventually the Superman we all know and love but BVS messed up his character arc. I always thought to myself when I was a teen that if Spider-Man represents what our lives would be like if we got superpowers and became heroes but fail from time to time then Superman represents what a superhero should be. It upsets me when people say he is boring or outdated, so thank you for this perfect video.
Mahdi Nur I personally enjoyed BvS as well as Man of steel. Henry Cavill said BvS wasn’t about Superman but his environment. The bright and uplifting superman would of come over time. I believe Snyder was laying down a foundation imo.
The character actress with me I wasn’t supposed to be in just those two movies, it’s supposed to be in those two plus justice league 1,2, and three. So BvS was supposed to be him at his lowest which was portrayed perfectly
In my oppinion, Superman should be the opposite of Spider Man. For Spider Man, the more he helps other people, the most Peter Parker struggles. For Superman should be that the more he tries to help, the more difficult his task as Superman becomes, like in Superman: Birthright or What happened with thw man of Tomorrow. Is also important that Superman NEVER leaves, and the only time he leaves should be because he breaks the rules that he created for himself
Spider-man amd superman are two sides of the same coin for me, they're both in the middle class, call their respective "city of tomorrow" home, have a wealthy super genius would-be entrepreneur as their nemesis, they're more partners to their respective global hero teams than members of them, they were raised by good hard working people amd take that work ethic with them, their households are more vulnerable than they are and this pushes them to be extremely protective of them, both are creative with their powers. Where their differences lie imo compliments them: They possess identical color pallets but they're reversed. Peter didn't want to become a hero, develop an expertise in chemistry, mechanical engineering, electrical engineering, physics, hand to hand combat, acrobatics, cover up bruises, hide his identity beyond just wearing a mask, or work with any, let alone every major superhero team, all between the ages of 15 and 18. Clark wasnt born in or raised anywhere near Metropolis, he wanted to go, to lead and be lead by them, to travel the world and do all he can to help those in need, to work with the justice league. They both inspire because they represent both sides of why we do good, because we have to, because we we're obligated. Threatening their loved ones in order to create tension is representative of a lack of confidence that the audience will care otherwise.
*“With great power comes great responsibility”* I feel like that quote is most suitable to Superman. The most powerful character in the DC universe is also the most responsible because of his kind-nature and unshakable morals. Like Peter, he offers his free will to help others for nothing in return. Despite powerful figures (ie Lex Luthor & J. Jonah Jameson) trying to paint a bad picture of them to their respected cities, they persist on fighting for what they believe in and let their actions do the talking. Because of their power levels, they hold back extensively and could do some serious damage if all responsibility was lost, like how we see in Injustice or when Peter let loose on Kingpin.
I think the key and most sad part as to why people don’t get Superman is that they can’t comprehend having that level of power and choosing to do the right thing. People actually say he’s outdated, but I actually think Superman is more relevant than ever in this day and age for the reasons above.
People are A hols so they want there superheroes to be A hols so they could relate to them if superheroes are good how can we relate to them we can't because we are A hols
You'll have to forgive me but I disagree. I think I would qualify and add to your statement by changing it. We're better than some times we know how be but I wouldn't say as a rule that we're assholes.
you know the things about luxe is one time he is good and then he is doing bad I think superman have a point when he sayes to luxe I can see the good in you
Honestly I used to be in the camp of "it's impossible for Superman to be interesting because he's invincible". Actually took reading One Punch Man to realize how wrong I was. It's not the powers that make a story, its how the author uses them as a vehicle to tell compelling stories. Anyways, I've become a certified Superman defender and fan. Great video and very well sums up exactly what makes him such a great, timeless character. Tired of the cynicism and nihilism, and really needed a character like Supes who will be ever the optimist.
Thank you for this video. Superman for me is not a boring character but a character that represents faith. Faith that there is good in the world, faith that humanity will fight for justice, faith in hope. It is this faith that shows the hope of Superman embodies. Imagine, a man a thousand times more powerful than you and he has faith that you can do good. I find that incredibly inspiring, and also a bit melancholic because, in today's world, people lose faith in hope. People see the ugly side of life and say, Why live justly? Why should I hope for good? I know at least I have asked those questions in my life. However, every time I think of Superman's character, I am reminded of hope. The sole example that a man can view the ugliest sides of humanity and say "I will still fight for good, because I have faith in humanity" is a powerful message. That is why I like superman as hero. Not as much as others with a similar role, like The Flash or Nightwing (in the sense that he represents a brighter batman), but Superman is epitome of faith. And this part of his character is what I feel that the current superman movies fail to grasp. They don't show the struggling man that has unending faith in humanity, but the super that can solve problems with the flick of the wrist.
People who say Superman is outdated while fanboying over Batman completely miss the point; At the end of the day, Batman came about from the same values that make Superman, just applied differently. Superman wants to do good because he has the means to do so and that's how he was raised. Batman wants to make something good come from his loss and tries to do so through the means available to him. He might not be as outwardly nice about it as Clark, but Bruce wants to do good just as much as he does. It's why depicting them as close friends works as well as it does.
Love both Bats and Supes in different ways. They're both what a super idealist like me strives to be, mentally at least. I'd always argue when someone says Superman is not a compelling character. His powers are so above us but he's so human. I totally agree with the point that Superman is supposed to be a symbol of hope and the Snyder films have in some ways butchered that endearing quality of his.
At least someone understands superman. I think Snyder should watch this video. Superman’s gets so much hate and is a character with misconceptions. He’s not boring and he’s much more relatable than batman. He’s the paragon of humanity and all superheroes. Excellent character study.
Eem 2wavy Superman is a metaphor for immigrants and people who suffer alienation. He is an outsider. Superman suffers existentialism. Superman works a 9-5 job, whilst batman is a billionaire superman’s intentions are superior to batman. - batman doesn’t want to teach criminals he just wishes they are dead.( he doesn’t kill since he knows as a result he’d become a Murderer - not a good person), Superman wishes to teach people to love and have compassion. Superman is he paragon of humanity and humankind, he is the beacon of what people should aspire to be. Despite superman’s power it doesn’t change his ideology Superman proves that if you are good, kind and have a loving heart you can achieve any goal or dream. Batman however proves to be successful or respected you need money and wealth, Superman is called super’MAN’, and not super-alien or super-being, because he’s the best that we can be. When we love care and save someone etc, we are superman Superman fights to defeat villains because he fears failing humankind and letting people down. Superman is a metaphor for the result of love and compassion. Clark kents parents defines superman (Mum)Martha kent=love and empathy (Dad)Jonathan kent= leader, self sacrifice (Wife)Lois lane= perseverance Superman is how he visions humankind. He sees humans as incredible and a piece of astonishment, I could name much more but I probably written to much anyway 😂
The Omega Effect That’s him more relatable? Superman doesn’t have to work he works bc he wants to not bc he needs to. Do you read batman comics? Even the joker himself says batman goals are to re habilitate all the criminals bc he think they can become good. And of course he would wish for some dead he is human and that’s relatable I’m not sure what was your point with this. Your contradicting yourself honestly no human is perfect but Superman is and yet he is relatable? Yeah no Superman is not relatable if he is what humans strive to become that makes zero sense. Flawed people are relatable perfect people aren’t. Lol wft? Batman does not prove non of that shit. Hell batman is not even about the money batman is about what humans can achieve and how they can surpass their limits. He makes us want to work out and go to the gym or learn martial art. Talking about is money or wealth is not even half the story of Batman it’s more about tech and martial arts. Again that is contradicting what you are saying. You say Superman is more relatable but then you talk about how perfect he is like do you know what relatable means? You should not clearly your definition of relatable is different from my. Perfect people are apparently more relatable than a flawed person but whatever
Eem 2wavy none can become batman unless your a billionaire. Anyone can become superman. Superman is a symbol and a metaphor of justice and compassion. Saving a person, or doing a good deed in your life, is being superman. That’s what superman is it’s just you do understand him. That’s why he is called superman and not super alien or superperson. The man in the title is significant as it explores what it is to be great. Batman isn’t a good person. He doesn’t kill because he fears the consequences and the result of his own sanity after. Superman is constantly struggling to hold back, because he fears the danger it would leave if he didn’t. Batman holds back because he would become a homicidal murderer, overwise. Batman is a sociopath. Superman teaches you the result of having good values and a kind heart, batman teaches you the path of tyranny which would happen if tragedy existed in your life. Superman lives an understandable, and average and relatable job. Batman lives as a billionaire can get whatever he wants
Eem 2wavy superman can be affected by emotions. It’s his very weakness just like human. He is constantly facing existentialism. And alienation. Batman cannot be corrupted by such emotions as easily, he is the embodiment of fear. He very rarely gets bullied in the aspect of feelings.
Superman is the very definition of a superhero. He is good, kind, and stands for justice and what is right. He is the very first superhero and influenced all of those who came after him. Without Superman, we most likely wouldn’t have Batman or Spider-Man, or they wouldn’t be the same as they are now. Superman is an unstoppable force of good and I’m happy that someone recognizes it.
Batman was my favorite when I was EDGY lol,but that change after I started to read DC rebirth by Geoff Johns and Superman by Peter Tomasi,big fan now thanks to these guys.
I give up after Tomasi left,not much main title reading only Hawkman,The Green Lantern( both miniseries) and last infamous Doomsday clock (just read 11 today it was amazing)
I'm happy that a lot of RUclipsrs the same as you are also trying to show the people what Superman as a character is truly about. I think there's still hope with shows like Superman and Lois that show not only Superman, but Clark struggling with his life and his duty.
It's crazy how misrepresented Superman has become in adaptations, people are more interested in him as an anti hero and villain than a paragon of improvement
@@HELLO_KORO straight facts bro. Superman’s character overtime has lowkey turned into just a feat for Batman defeating him but I’m watching Superman And Lois and realizing how great he is again. Also injustice has a lot to do with that
@@Lil_Santa_2001 I gotta watch more of it!! I'm a bit slow with series,I think I'm still at season 1 somewhere past half the episodes Speaking of series I think Mark Grayson is probably the best modern Superman adaptation imo,he screws up quite a bit because he's a teen and new to the whole being a superhero thing but he still has a heart of gold and does absolutely the best he can to save people
@@elijenkins5121 he’s probably just confused. I don’t think he really hates Superman. He hates that boring and stoic Superman we’ve had with Zack Snyder’s version filled with Jesus imagery and that disgusted me.
The thing that bugged me the most about cavil's super-man was that he seemed like a pessimistic incarnation of a highly optimistic & hopeful personality.
Henrys Superman is still growing into being a hero, unlike other Superman people don't question their actions where Henrys Superman no matter what he does it sparks controversy. He saves lives and all it does is spark more debate making him question if he should be a hero, but yet despite all this he keeps going.
@@l0sts0ul89 My point is that he indeed is a brilliant superhero but the problem is that he seemed to be not sure about being one as he struggled with constant doubt as if he should be doing all this or not - saving people but on the other hand, an ideal superman would be a figure who's actions are independent of people's opinion but is dependent on his own good will.
@@legendry And that's fine, he's still human in the and and isn't that what we want from Superman? The powers of a God but the mind of a man, he's not perfect and he's still learning but with enough time he'll become great... will if the Synderverse ever continues that is.
@@l0sts0ul89 I wish they would have continued the snyderverse,so that we could see this superman in his prime but sadly, that is not going to happen anytime soon.
Power doesn't corrupt it just reveals a person's True natural people think they have changed because they behave differen from them selves before but in actuality they were always like that they were just suppressing them selves because of fear of society because they are powerless but when given power they just start acting like there inner True self so no power doesn't corrupt it just reveals Note: power doesn't corrupt it just reveals originally said by CurtRichy from CurtRichy channel
Superman is and always will be my real life hero. He have started out as a comic book character, however, he is real to me. During 7 hellish years of depression. Remembering that he would never give up made me strong. I out the other side because his ideals on kindness and leading with love and compassion not only made me survive but made me thrive. Thank you for this tribute to the greatest of heroes ❤️💜💪
Superman's whole dynamic is not combat-based, which is why I love him. I don't like the thought of a villain being taken on in a fight. Superman is the embodiment of the good of humanity, while Luthor is the embodiment of the evil of humanity. Superman is a moralist, and Luthor is a nihilist. They are the two sides of the one coin that is humanity. When we get power, we can choose to do good or to do evil. Superman is the symbol of doing the right thing with absolute power. That's what makes him special. We need moral truth in this society now more than ever. Superman is not about power, he's about responsibility.
personally I believe the qualities of superman people call "boring" or "outdated" just makes him all the more unique is what makes him stand out from all the edgy grimdark heroes
My thing is they say Superman didn’t earn his strength but technically it takes more strength to hold back when someone hurting or bullying you for instance when he was in high school he had to hold back cuz he can easily kill them with one finger so that’s true strength. And also being able to forgive people even after they just killed people or someone you cares about.
I suppose with news of an upcoming Flashpoint film it is all salvageable (the point being that in my opinion it needs fixing). While I did somewhat enjoy the movies, as a fan of comics, particularly dc comics, I feel they began on a really terrible foundation with Man of Steel and BvS. The visuals were good but the characters were wrong almost like the movies creators find superman an embarrassing character or too unbelievable that his story had to be recreated - not told differently but undone and changed. And even then they didn't do it well as far as storytelling and film standards go. From my personal observations I'd say this. Jonathan Kent did mess up everything like if Uncle Ben didn't believe that with great power comes great responsibility; superman's only value was his abilities but he had no personal convictions or life goals, he made no choices and just wanders till he's forced to act. BvS brought a Batman near the end of his story and therefore somehow unrecognisable with Superman mostly ignored, left the wanderer he was, and the movie as a whole was a mess plotwise while undermining the feeling I got from man of Steel that superman was the first hero to appear in the snyderworld. Maybe this whole time snyder had just wanted to make The Dark Knight Returns into a film which I bet he'd have done so well. I can only summarise the above as it would take too long explaining the dissatisfaction I have for snyder's version of DC comics stories. I say dissatisfaction cause I see such good ideas and actors wasted in incoherent and/or rushed films.
@@lalahpa4272 I understand what you mean and personal I don't really know what I want. I don't know if I want the snyder version or a reboot, I just hope things get better from here but I completely understand what you mean.
Loved this. Superman is so misunderstood as a character. I love that he's good just for the sake of being good. He doesn't need an angsty backstory to motivate him (yes, he lost his birth parents, but he was adopted so young into such a loving family; it's sad, but not angsty. Plus, he's good because of his upbringing, not his trauma). I really love superman stories that are about loneliness and isolation; he seems fundamentally different than everyone around him, but really he's the most human of them all. That's what I gravitate towards most.
Why are people always complaining about superman being overpowered he's what a hero should be always helping others and teaching people to be the best person they can be
Grant Morrison. Jeph Loeb. Have to be some of my favourite superman writers. Superman is limitless. Imo. He has moral limits that dictate to what extents he uses his powers in any given situation.
I’ve honestly always thought Superman was someone to aspire to be. We can all aspire to believe in man kind like him. Superman has hope in mankind, something that we all should aspire to have. And he isn’t boring, on the hands of a good writer any hero can be seen interesting. He doesn’t need to be Batman, he should be Superman, cause no other hero gives you that bright fussy feeling of hope while reading him
Aside from his obvious super powers, Superman is quite a personable character one could actually hang out with. + An incredible birth and legacy, yet has an everyday and humble upbringing. + Has a typical job and relationship the average person can relate to. + Half his life is ordinary or mundane like everyone else, while the other is something many people dream off.
I grew up with all superheroes, and superman has been my most favorite dc hero because of how heroic and hopeful he is And how he can see there's good in people 😭👏🏼
The Snyder films did damage to our society with their corrupt portrayal of such a noble cultural icon. These are our modern myths. The points brought up in this video are spot on!
13:16 I have a suggestion for the way DC could've fixed Man of Steel. What if they kept humans rejecting Clark, but Kal-El continues to fight for them anyway? What if the arc isn't really Superman, but rather the people of Metropolis? I've always envisioned that Metropolis should be bleak and pessimistic with high suicide rates, homelessness, and poverty(while Gotham suffers from corruption and dangerous crime). Lex Luthor endorses the cynical views of humanity and leads the people of Metropolis in creating hoplessness. Creating this setting contrast against Superman could help him stand out and why his "naïve optimism" can work.
Snyder doesn't believe Superman is a hero. He thinks of him as a God. REAL Superman fans know he represents the inner God all of us can become when we choose to act with kindness and a loving heart.
@@panthergod Right? When I envision Superman on screen, I want to feel warm and hopeful. Like I did with Cap in First Avenger. His selflessness bled off the screen for me and his character was always inspiring to me. I know I'm comparing, but Superman should feel that way, if not even more
Superman is the most powerful hero of all time. The greatest. His stories are emotional Conflicts, the reasons and purposes behind why he uses his powers the way he does in any given situation. His morals, his code, what he stands for as an individual. He is a human being with power that can’t be matched. He is emotionally vulnerable like any everyone. It’s his actions and the way he handles himself and others that makes him so special. He doesn’t have a physical weakeness, he is resistant to Kryptonite and red sun light. It’s with time and experience that he learns how to use his powers in those situations. MAGIC WAS NEVER A WEAKENESS OF HIS. He has beaten tons of people who use magic. As a writer. You do not have to nerf a hero who is limitlessly powerful in order to present his story. This is an issue I’ve had with his cartoons, movies and sometimes his comics. His stories are everyday experiences that any human being can relate to. We all have power it’s how we use it to what extent and the conflicts/consequences that may come into play. In addition to this,Superman is an amazing example of nature and nurture this heavily informs him of how and why he uses his powers the way he does. I love superman. He’s the GOAT. Most powerful hero ever and I hope more people show him the respect he deserves. Without Superman Comics wouldn’t be where it is today. He started it all. He’s the role model for every hero that exists, there would be no batman, spider-man, Captain América, Captain Marvel (Shazam), Wonder Woman and many more if it wasn’t for Superman. Love superman and I always will. My favourite hero. Strong. Kind. Optimistic. Leader. Legend. Friend. Thoughtful. Intelligent. Emphatic. Loving. He’s everything anyone would want in a hero and more. Have good day guys. I wish you every happiness and success in this life. Peace !
"MAGIC WAS NEVER A WEAKENESS OF HIS. He has beaten tons of people who use magic." There are events where he does get hurt by magic, of course people like you ignore them. There are legit fans out there who literally think that he can solo all of Marvel and DC. They are the most stupidest people I've ever heard of, they constantly cherry pick(not a lot of people know about the meaning of that word so I suggest that it should be looked up) /take out of context the feats and facts to oblivion in order to create the delusion of Superman being more powerful than he is.
Superman was not the first superhero, the two authors who wrote him in the 20th century also took inspiration from other things. Nor is he the first character with powers and abilities unexplained by the laws of physics. By your diluted logic, characters in Greek or Norse mythology should be able to kill Superman since they were one of the first powerful fictional characters before Superman. But Superman fanboys think that Superman can defeat Zeus. What a joke.
@@j0an-07-arc6 He's one of those Superman fans who spam comments like these often using the "he was first!" argument and than they go there way and not respond to counter arguments/reply's because they are too afraid that their delusions would be shattered or they are just ignorant. He's not even the first Superhero, his authors took inspiration from other things, he isn't even the first fictional character with powers and abilities unexplained by the laws of physics. They always keep on projecting their pride/smug at others using emojis or emotion text symbols to deliberately make people mad, they ironically do all this due to their personal insecurities about a fictional character. They are mentally children, seriously its embarrassing. Even if he was the first Superhero, they NEVER explain the logic behind the "he was first!" argument somehow making Superman "the most powerful Superhero". That tells a lot about how much human level intelligence they have left or any at all, they are literally drunk in their fantasies of Superman. This guy is saying that he doesn't have a physical weakness when a character with the power/ability of immunity negation(permanent) in a good enough powerset can hurt him with a regular knife or a human level strength punch.
My Grandfather lived in the same era of time as the John Kent in the Donner Superman film. He started working a full-time job to support his mother, sisters, and brothers when he was in the fourth grade. He taught me that being a man was about taking care of your family and friends being the rock they needed even when it was hard. He taught me to reach out a hand to anyone who needed my help regardless of there background, and to stand up to protect others. Those seem to be the same things John taught Clark and it seems to me those teachings are still pretty relevant to the modern day not just the sixties. It's not that Warner doesn't know that they just don't think they can sell it. That's why they used Snyder.
Great video! Love the use of Grant Morrison’s interview. I show that to people who think he’s “OP” all the time. All Star Superman is the best. Also Verisimilitude! Exactly the word I was looking for. As for Man of Steel, it promised so much and used a lot of quotes from Birthright, All Star and Secret Origin, but in the end it disappointed..
No you know your stuff. I agree with you. Superman will forever be the best superhero. I am obsessed with superheros so you can tell how obsessed I a with superman.
Something that I always liked so much about Superman is more or less what he represents, rather then what he's trying to pull off or be. Superman's greatest trait, his greatest power isn't the strength, or the flight, or even the laser eyes. It's the heart. An alien comes to earth and learns to understand its people, and with love and faith becomes the embodiment of what humanity should be, what it can be: compassion, justice, courage and humility. Superman is super, because he is a man.
I share superman’s morals and values, it’s one of the reasons I love him. His example of believing in better rather than acting in anger or spite because others deem it acceptable. There’s always another way in my opinion. It’s his values that I love. Many thanks for this video.
Wow... Thank you so much for this. Superman has always been a massive inspiration in my life ever since I watched Smallville when I was younger. That was the gateway into the comics and I've loved this character ever since. Superman is relevant today more than he ever has been. It's really sad that Warner Bros. Can't seem to get that. I just want the world to believe a man can fly again.
Honestly, when i was 10-13 I was a Batman fan, he was my favourite superhero, but in last 2-3 years i started seeing Superman for what he is, now i am a lot like Clark and Peter Parker(In my opinion Spider-man should be Marvel's Superman, a symbol of hope, but being a person like us) and i love the two characters, i basicly became Superman from Batman in a way. KInda crazy now that i think about it. What do you think? What does Superman mean to you, and how he changed your view on word, and how he chaned you?
Batman is my favorite hero, but Superman is one I enjoy. One of my first introductions to superheroes was Superman. He’s more powerful than nearly everyone in the justice league, but he still views them as equals. Superman is a great hero. To me Superman Yang of the DC universe while Batman is the Yin of DC.
I often see people saying how Lex came from nothing, and had to crawl his way to the top, while Superman was born with his powers. While that is true, your missing the point of their relationship. Not all good men have to have suffered, not all bad men privileged, it's just a matter of what you do, and who you are. Lex is a bad man, he lets his own cynicism infect his view of everything around him, believing that it all doesn't matter, that all anyone should care about in the end is themselves, because that's all we'll ever have. Superman is an optimist, he believes in the best in people, is always willing to lend a hand to those who need it, and those who think they don't. He had everything he needs, he is happy 'just' helping others. Lex could have been a better man, he could have been like Superman, used all his smarts and wealth to help others, instead of hating Superman who does nothing wrong, as Superman said. "If you really wanted to save the world, you could have". Superman could have become like Lex, only caring about himself, uncaring to those he hurts. But they aren't that way, because Clark Kent is Superman, and Lex Luther, is Lex Luther.
The thing I love about Batman and Superman is that they both stand for the same thing, the change of humanity. Batman inspires change by making evil fear what they'd not only do to others, but to themselves. To this day, he's still trying to convince the Joker that he can change. Superman inspires change by sticking to the values of an optimist. I think Superman VS the Elite movie covers this 1000 times better than I can
You have elucidated everything I felt about Superman since I first started reading about him around 1960. I agree totally with your perspective. Great job!
Considering how the reality reacts, the modern day human beings do not deserve even a hero, let alone Superman. We've already seen what would happen or the gist of it in BvS. We all want out Superman to eat the cake and not wanting to worry about the drowning horses. Everyone wants Superman to have a human mindset but when he has those characteristics, people complains.
@@abney_66 Except he does have flaws. Superman makes mistakes in his life as Clark Kent, he gets outsmarted by Brainiac and even Lex, he gets beaten down by Darkseid and Doomsday over and over again, he fails to save people close to him. As powerful as Superman is he isn't omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient. If a speedster decides to screw the timeline Supes is as powerless as the rest of us, that's a job for Flash. Watch Justice League Unlimited and come back and tell me Superman has no flaws.
@@enumaelish9193 Facts. It’s an interesting part of the character tho, that people see him as perfect. Everybody seems to think he’s got all the answers and solutions when Clark will be the first to admit he doesn’t. He admits he makes mistakes, specially right after making a mistake 😂. Yet people completely ignore that for some reason. They ignore the fact that Supes is just some humble dude from Kansas trying to help. Maybe people are just under a misconception I suppose.
@@enumaelish9193 bro being outsmarted isn't a flaw. Neither is getting beaten up. What I'm getting at is his mistakes in the comics, shows and even in the movies are always treated as being the right decision. He can't never make any wrong decision. He is always saying or doing right thing at the right time. Therefore he is flawless and perfect as far as dc is concerned. He isn't a human literally and figuratively as much as the comics try to push this notion, we can never be or strive to be him as that is trying to be perfect which we humans aren't. We are very flawed individuals, we make mistakes and we have to live with the consequences. That's why superheroes like Ironman, Batman, and Spiderman are more relatable characters than Superman or Captain America.
@@pardonmeexcuseme2839 bro that's how he is portrayed in the comics, movies, and alot of forms of media. Every thing he does is right. He can fucking stub his toe on a chair and somehow that was apart of his master plan or whatever. He is perfect. He is never portrayed as being flawed. Stop being Superman fanboy and go outside for once
It’s kinda sad that at one point, I loved superman (and Spider-Man) considering they were great role models amongst youth. Over time as I grew, I forgotten about them becoming something I wasn’t. It’s sad that nowadays people say “superman is boring” and reward villains for their darkness and mysteriousness. I think we should go think for ourselves in a means of doing what’s right despite what 99% would say or disagree, because there’s a majority of people who succumb to things that are bad and minority of people that are trying to do good. Problem is everything that is bad is brainwashed into thinking it’s good. We need superman more than ever.
Thx for making this video bro, it really lift me up, Supes has always been my favorite superhero of all time and I hate to see how much hate he gets from ppl
You say everything I've complained about Superman in DCEU being. He isn't a hero because he wants to due to him being raised that way, he now obligated to do so because space dad said he would be and then have people shit on him in return. Superman isn't here to be realistic, he is here to inspire us to be better.
I think Snyder's vision was to make him find himself and rise out of the dark pit that is inflicted by the people on him. Instead of starting out already having his identity fortified and beloved by the people. The end of BvS is imo a concrete proof for his love of humanity, even if the people he saves does not love him back.
@@Dxntoo I agree. People seem to think if you like cavill superman, you hate the superman character when truly thats not the case. I love both interpretations of superman and that’s ok. We all can like different versions of characters.
I think the three characters that take the most away from the modern appeal of Superman are Batman, Captain America, & Goku. DC has pretty much chosen Batman as their champion b/c of his dominance in almost every medium (TV, movies, video games, graphic novels, etc...). Cap has become the ultimate boy scout in the eyes of the general public due to the MCU. And while Dragon Ball started out as the Japanese version of Journey to the West, DBZ pretty much retconned the franchise to be Akira Toriyama's own Superman story. But a great & successful adaptation is all takes to win the masses back to appreciating Superman again.
I disagree about your critique about Goku, sure Goku did have a couple of poses from Superman but the only similarity they have with each other is the Moses symbolism and them both being aliens. The english dub also made goku say some superman lines at times. But, apart from that Goku is not Superman in anyway there characters are different, Superman lives to serve and protect the people, Goku lives to train, get stronger and fight strong opponents but will protect the world if a major threat arises.
@@tnmblonewolf8799 I never said that Batman, Captain America, & Goku are EXACTLY like Superman. Each just have aspects of what Superman offers. Need your fix of a caped superhero w/ a secret lair? Batman's got you covered. Want to see a boy scout All-American leader? Steve Rogers at your service. How about a story of a superpowered alien who lands on Earth as one of the last of his species? Here's Son Goku for you. Heck, one can argue that Spider-Man also provides the Clark Kent aspect, especially since he works for a news company.
Goku isn’t like Superman at all. The only thing inspired by Superman was his origin as an alien from another planet. Akira Toriyama himself said Goku isn’t a hero. He’s a just a martial artist who likes to fight strong beings. He’s just so happens to save the world while fighting. Of course he won’t let his friends and family be harmed but it’s not always his intention to fight for earth.
Amazing video. One of the best breakdowns of superman I have ever seen and I love that you brought in Nietzshe and Kant. Here's hoping the further brings us better Superman stories. Some Writers just seem to have forgotten how to write herculean heroes.
Fantastic video, you really got what makes Superman great and enduring, while also pointing out the problem with failed comic book adaptations. Superman will always be the greatest hero of them all :)
Clark is the human heart of Superman. He is at his best and most relatable when he uses his mind and reason rather than his fists. Clark is the real person, who drives the best of what Superman can be.
"If Clark wanted to, he could use his superspeed and squish me into the cement. But I know how he thinks. Even more than the Kryptonite, he's got one big weakness. Deep down, Clark's essentially a good person... and deep down, I'm not." -Batman
Great video, Man. Superman and his outdated but now more necessary morals inspired me to be most everything I am now, and he still does. This just reminded me why. Thank you very much!
Absolute power shows what a person would always have done… which is why paragons like Superman and Captain America are the greatest heroes of our modern mythos.
I think it's a valid interpretation, albeit sure a bit of a change, to make Superman a reluctant hero, not that he doesn't want to save people, he does, but that he does have doubts that he would be feared and resented. And in the movie Man of Steel humanity doesn't outright reject him, Lois and Perry notably accept him as does Pete, but the military and government do still remain cautious.
The problem is that Superman never goes away. At the start it’s fine for him to be apprehensive that’s what makes him relatable at the end of the day he’s just some guy from a backwater town in Kansas trying to do what’s right. It’s his journey to becoming Superman.
Loved the video man, good job. What I think when a lot of writers and the public say that "superman is not relatable, and that he's perfect, etc." They miss the point that Superman is supposed to inspire you and that Clark Kent is the one you are supposed to relate to. Dean Cain's Superman said it perfectly: "Superman is what I can do, Clark Kent is who I am." So in essence, in order to get Superman right, you have to get Clark Kent right; to get Clark Kent right, you have to get Ma and Pa Kent right. Which is something that a lot of people fail to realize/do.
My very first comic book was Superman, also the first live action series on Heroes from the 50's and the first animated super hero was also Superman. He and the other DC pantheon of heroes have always been something near and dear to my heart. I remember reading a quote about him from a comic creator. "anyone who says Superman is a hard person to write because of his invulnerability and so forth, what they're really showing is how incapable they are of crafting a story that people would want to read or watch."
A modern superman should probably be a superman that's in a hard struggle to comprehend what's right and what's not and that's far less active or much more specific about what he does. The modern superman lives in a world where it's much harder to even know what the right thing to do *is*.... but that doesn't mean he will stop trying.
"But the one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying. In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually, they will hate you." - Norman Osborn
Great work! I always felt off with DCEU's Superman. Though I found intersting the dilema of a 'god among men' and the politics involved, it was never SUPERMAN. That version never got to stop a robbery or a corrupt politician/business man, rescue a kitten from a tree nor save people on the other side of the planet from a natural or social disaster. If DCEU pull off Flashpoint, they should definitely strive for Dini's and Ross's depiction in 'Peace on Earth' and 'Kingdom Come', as well as Morrison's 'All-Star'. Who would you recast?
Wanted to create a video outlining what Superman is too me, why he's still so important, and why I love everything about the character, would love to hear from you what aspect of Superman you gravitate too towards most !!
I've never wanted to give a video more thumbs up in my entire life. If I ever see you in real life I'll give you a hug for making this video.
I think Superman needs to be fixed and this is not coming from an mcu fanboy especially after the fact that I found Endshame to be just awful. But Superman does need to be fixed. Zack Snyder just deconstructed the character of Superman now if it was his version of Superman of a different name and universe than I wouldn't be so against him creating a deconstruction of the archetype. But he and WB used the name of Superman to make money off of him Now one would say that the golden age Superman can't work in modern times which isn't true because Superman is a character that transcends time. Now let's say if that argument was true and that golden age Superman can't work in modern times than why bother making a Superman film if you can't adapt him without changing him?
@@anungunrama2601 I disagree Superman does not beed changing at allI feel like we will focus on the wrong thing when they talk about and what will your problems with endgame
@UCcxFA25K5mPjW4O_d8tHPkw first I'm very glad that you said that that the iconic doesn't need changing but the realistic grounded superman does go check out nando v movies rewrite of Man of steel it's 4 parts before I start talking about this I'm an mcu Fanboy but I'll say this MCU is flawed I feel like deep down most MCU Fanboys won't admit it anyway I actually liked that door I thought his character Arc was very unique and made him more human same with the hulk I actually didn't find any problem with Natasha stagg I'll admit I didn't expect it but that thing really baffled me or anytingask for Steve Rogers I don't think it really contradicted his character since that's what he always desired if you watch The avengers age of Ultronalthough if you look at his stories they always change with the times but the character stays the same so I can understand that from the comic side but the MCU version not so much I don't know maybe if you gave me more details I would understand
My favorite version of Superman is Smallville have you heard of it super frame
I still don't understand how having good values is "outdated". It seems like such an overly cynical and sad thing to believe
Yeah, truth justice and the american way. But they say america is bad now and cnn says "speculation" is important too.
We need some truth, justice and hope in this world rn
Which is why you should never give in to cynism. Especially in this day and age. Batman can be cynical at times. But at the very core of his character, he's just a guy who's trying to do the right thing. Same thing with superman. He's not a very cynical person, but he wants to do the right thing.
@Kryptoskillet but batman has good values too and that's why people don't understand batman superman or literally any other comic character they're so much more complicated then just edgy or outdated
@DJHart well thats why characters like batman or spiderman or akira fudo from devilman exist they are people who experienced pain and suffering, they are supposed to be idols to follow, a good example
They always think about the other person which is why batman does not kill because he values life
These people went through unimaginable pain and still they kept thier values.
Projecting youre trauma into other people no matter how bad what you went through still makes you a bad person because you think the world revolves around you and that people are inferior to you
Thats why characters like the joker are still considered evil
Superman: The hero most people don’t understand but the one we need right now
Sending prayers.
The only person at DC who I really liked and looks good is Bat Man and Wonder Woman. The look from aside from Bat Man and WW was for me always to boring, and the super powers were never got presented well, but with the new Superman Film and the new Aqua Man Film was the costume cool, but the look from the DC movies were never touched by this so much. Marvel has done much more with a looks, Spider Man has a ass full of costumes, same with Captain America, X Men so on, on, on. The Powers of this two Super Heros were never be so represented within the two movies. But the Comics are not touched by this...
The reason no one understands him is because he's human an most humans don't want to be human. So to "Those people" Superman is unrelatable because they don't know what it means to be a human being. Sure we throw around labels claim this an that things like race etc etc but people now don't wanna claim is human. Everyone wants to be better then other people either by being a top of the pyramid or being a victim to gain attention, They know there human but they don't understand what it means to be human.
@@deathoftheendless1371 absolutely, nowadays people aren't as empathetic but they'd rather be indifferent and apathetic. even my generation don't have anyone morally right to look up too as an idol.
@@MW-dd8vk human beings don't understand how powerful they are, that the simple steps an simple ways of being are god like, if you strip the ideas of the slave mentality that we are just walking bags of flesh an nothing more, you will see that the god like power is child like, that imagination is real. what would our world be like if there was no imagination? There would be nothing, one point in time we thought only angels can fly, then we create something out of imagination in a time were people said it was impossible but now we look up in the sky an see planes an think nothing of it because it's normal to us now but it's beautiful, it's our ability, it's what creates reality, we create things we are gods we are children an that's the best we can be, wise children who follow our hearts an not the words of others who want to put us down. To me Superman is the story of the human soul the human spirit, Superman is Clark Kent's critique on the human race, that we can be great people, he's not trying to be better then us he's trying to take the best of us an make something special out it. Superman is the Child god within us. An to people who are lost they find him unrelatable, But anyone I mean anyone can relate to him. Jewish , Asian , transgender , straight whatever. He's for all of us an he's not perfect he makes mistakes he doesn't always have the answers but he knows right from wrong an dose the best that he can. But yeah You an others, me all of us we are more don't ever believe we're not, lose yourself to your imagination. Because your not wasteing your time on something fake your entering the world of power, yes we can't fly in this reality but in imagination we can an if you believe that if you truly believe that, wow,,,, I don't have any more words to say what you'll feel, maybe it's up to all of us to find out, it's all different for all of us, but it's all simple an similar,
Superman: a “god-like” being who sees himself like a human.
Lex Luthor: a human who sees himself like a “god-like” being.
That's the best description of superman ever!
That's just right and true
I’ve never noticed that those two are literally the exact opposite of each other
and thats thanks to martha kent and jonathan kent theyre legends
Pretty much, superman is a alien who shows what a human should be.
Lex is a human who shows what a human shouldn't be.
"Everyone wants a Batman, but everyone needs a Superman"
You can find a middle ground and every so often we need a punisher.
@@TheUnseenPath and every so often we need a spider-man
No you're a weak soft man. You need superman, because you are weak.
@@DeltaSanz’Nuff said
"In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually, they will hate you."
“We have become Lex Luthor.”
This should be quoted to anyone who says Superman has no relevance or depth.
i am Lex *Luthor*
@@derelict3015 me too
He has all those things only hacks say that.
I felt that
Actually that sounds like a quote from a cynical person.
I think that Superman is just a nice dude, that's what makes him special.
I LOVE my tragic heroes (Spider-Man is my personal favorite). But he shows that you can be a hero without having a tragic back story. You can be powerful, privileged even, and not be a douchebag about it.
He,s an alien from another world, with powers to do whatever he desires, with few people able to stop him. Even with all that, he strives to be a nice, humble dude.
And despite being the epitome of American values, he was used (in the 40's and 50's no less!) He was used to fight racism, xenophobia and hated.
Fun fact, in the radio show Superman fought a version of the KKK. After that episode aired, KKK membership fell dramatically. And that only worked because Superman is Superman.
He's an American symbol that holds as much weight as Uncle Sam or the eagal. When he made a poster in the 50's saying that racism and prejudice were "un-American" people believed it because a personification of American values, real American values, was telling you so. That's special.
I also say, If Superman can be nice, if Superman can be a human, if this alien can be an American without being prejudiced, what's your excuse?
I think my Superman is the one from the 90's show, with Christopher Reeve being a close second.
Sometimes a Hero just wants to help.
Superman does have a tragic back story though... his whole planet was destroyed all he had left ( for the most part) was a hologram of his parents
@@Maniacfusion69 Ah, that is a fair point. I should amend.
Compared to other heroes, Superman doesn’t have as much backstory baggage.
Spider-Man (my favorite hero) is constantly guilt ridden because he never got over his uncles death. So Peter blames himself for everything, even when it wasn’t really his fault.
Batman never got over his parents death, and he (really the writers) CONSTANTLY bring it up.
Unlike most heroes, Superman isn’t guilt ridden over his past. When Superman broods, he broods in the moment, not about Krypton or his dead dad. So compared to other heroes, he has a less tragic story. This makes him unique, and I enjoy that about him. Superman just saves the day because he feels like it, not because he feels guilty.
Perhaps that’s a comfort food thing to like, but I enjoy comfort food sometimes.
@@lawrenceperry957 that definitely agree with thank you
@@Maniacfusion69 No problem at all!
Massive Superman fan here. I’m glad superman is getting positive publicity.
Superman is a simple man doing the right thing with his attributes.
Superman started it all imo, without superman comic books wouldn’t be as big as they are today as well as the past decades.
He is the man of tomorrow and the most powerful hero of all time.
@@RustyBrickStudios Exactly people want competition and competition creates Toxic Arguments about who is better and who would win.
@@RustyBrickStudios fully agree we cant compare batman and superman both are so awesome and best superheroes in their own ways ♥️
Without Superman not even Goku could exist.
@@RustyBrickStudios Weirdly enough, the best version of that story that Ive seen was in the lego batman 2 video game. XD
@@RustyBrickStudios cough* cough* what about me?
"We the audience have become Lex"-3:04. So sad but true. (Just sub'ed, Had to drop a like and share for that observation brother.)
Don't know how thinking like one the smartest people in DC who isn't always a villain more like antihero against Superman and anyone who is a writer would know it's better for someone to start at rock bottom for an interesting story then someone who's already at the top also be born with a power isn't really the problem have you ever heard of the aang he starts at rock bottom and becomes really powerful and in the story he does have an advantage over most other people he did master air bending but his story is still satisfied because he doesn't house World destroying power or really even City destroying power at the start but he has amazing character development because he started near the bottom.
I like Superman but criticizing people that thinks like Lex for one thing is stupid Lex thinks Superman's powerful and so do everyone else also anyone who's a writer will usually agree that a character at the bottom is usually more developed when he gets to the top then someone who just started at the top
@@dailycatsandgaming3178 Hey sorry, but I don’t really understand what you mean when you talk about characters who start at rock bottom or what it has to do with Lex or Supes. Maybe u could explain it to me if you’d like. But basically the reason Lex’s thought process is wrong is because not only is he one of the most cynical characters out there, but he’s also one of the most egotistical, childish, and petty characters in DC. That’s what makes his character contrast so well with Clark yk. Basically, Lex focuses on the power Superman has and how “inferior” we are compared to him instead of focusing on what Superman actually does with that power. How he respects the good people of earth. How he inspires us to do good. How he’s a friend who’s just trying to help. That’s why Lex is such a good villain. Not because he poses the biggest threat, but because he’s the complete opposite of Clark. Hope I answered your question. Not really sure if I did tho since I’m kinda confused on your comment as a whole 😅. Just tryna help
Edginess is overrated
Edginess is not as popular as people assume it is.
Noise Marine yes it is lmfao. Maybe you’re too inside your own cookie cutter head to realize this.
Sure, Edginess is a phase and seems cool.. Once you've matured you would realize how cringe you actually were and how uncool it actually was.
People who want to make specifically "edgy" characters, yeah, cringe. Anyone who makes a character with such specific characteristics, can lead to cringe.
I look at pro wrestling. So heavily scripted, nothing feels organic. Stone Cold got over not just because he was "the disgruntled employee fighting his evil boss", but because of how natural he made his character look. He didn't cuss because it made him seem "cool and edgy", he did it because a) it comes naturally to him the person, and b) it comes naturally to the character.
It's easy to say "this character is doing good just because," or that "this character is doing evil just because." In *SOME* cases, some, it works. Superman does what he does because of the way he was raised(a good-hearted country boy from a loving family, I think I just found my connection☺). Then you have "evil for no reason", not in Lex, but in Joker. He is chaos incarnate, madness personified.
I consider myself both seeing the way the world could be, and the way the world is. I believe all life is precious, but I know there are bad folks who would view what I have as worth dying to take(even if they didn't think they'd die trying to take it).
I have a veritable library of characters in my mind. Could some fall under the label of "edgy"? That's up to the reader, I just write the story as it flows.
Two of my all-time favorite heroes in comics are, ironically, Batman and Punisher. I like the tough idealism of Batman, but I understand that, sometimes, you gotta know when to squeeze the trigger. I like Blade, not because he's edgy(a cutting pun☺), but because I like the idea of a vampire hunting vampires(and other monsters). Gambit, a fellow Cajun☺.
Do I like Superman? Yes, and like I said, I just discovered a connection. I am more of a Batman fan, but the gap has shrunk☺.
@@wildside316 loved your wrestling analogy, especially being a fellow (and lifelong) wrestling fan. I'm a massive Superman fan and also a big Batman fan. I love the dynamic between both characters and how although they both have different methods they both fight for the same cause. They're almost like 2 brothers who have different philosophies but when it comes down to it they've got each others backs no matter what and there's probably no one else that either of them trusts more than the other (especially in Batman's case).
Those lines about society becoming like Luthor and confusing cynicism with wisdom really stuck with me.
Batman What are you? I´m Batman
Wonder Woman What are you? You´ll soon find out.
Superman What are you? A friend.
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That was beautiful ❤️
Remember that in Kingdom Come that is heavily implied Lois Lane was amongst the victims of Joker’s mass killings at the Daily Planet. Yet despite the fact Joker killed Superman’s wife he still protested Magog murdering the clown prince in cold blood.
THAT is a real hero.
Funny cause Lois death in Injustice (which also follows a DC Civil War) is what sets him off
@@starpaladinnelaj admittedly. Superman was the cause of her death and his unborn child and the decimation of Metropolis.
@@hasthehighground8560 Yeah Kingdom Come Supes came later and Magog was the difference.
@@starpaladinnelaj The comics change the context of this. Lois’ death and the destruction of Meteopolis is portrayed as the straw that broke the camel’s back, not the only thing at hand. Superman’s main reason there is the constant, overwhelming amount of threats to Earth that prevent him from living a normal life and put great strain on his mental health.
Kingdom come supes was literally my fav ver alongside all star supes, dudes been through alot yet he came out way stronger than ever
This video is perfect, even I personally liked Superman in Man of Steel because I thought he would grow to become better and eventually the Superman we all know and love but BVS messed up his character arc. I always thought to myself when I was a teen that if Spider-Man represents what our lives would be like if we got superpowers and became heroes but fail from time to time then Superman represents what a superhero should be. It upsets me when people say he is boring or outdated, so thank you for this perfect video.
Mahdi Nur I personally enjoyed BvS as well as Man of steel. Henry Cavill said BvS wasn’t about Superman but his environment. The bright and uplifting superman would of come over time. I believe Snyder was laying down a foundation imo.
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Well Syndick fucked it up. And the writers and producers.
@@acrsclspdrcls1365 that was wb that messed it up
People who say that are batman fans.
The character actress with me I wasn’t supposed to be in just those two movies, it’s supposed to be in those two plus justice league 1,2, and three. So BvS was supposed to be him at his lowest which was portrayed perfectly
In my oppinion, Superman should be the opposite of Spider Man. For Spider Man, the more he helps other people, the most Peter Parker struggles. For Superman should be that the more he tries to help, the more difficult his task as Superman becomes, like in Superman: Birthright or What happened with thw man of Tomorrow. Is also important that Superman NEVER leaves, and the only time he leaves should be because he breaks the rules that he created for himself
Spider-man amd superman are two sides of the same coin for me, they're both in the middle class, call their respective "city of tomorrow" home, have a wealthy super genius would-be entrepreneur as their nemesis, they're more partners to their respective global hero teams than members of them, they were raised by good hard working people amd take that work ethic with them, their households are more vulnerable than they are and this pushes them to be extremely protective of them, both are creative with their powers. Where their differences lie imo compliments them: They possess identical color pallets but they're reversed. Peter didn't want to become a hero, develop an expertise in chemistry, mechanical engineering, electrical engineering, physics, hand to hand combat, acrobatics, cover up bruises, hide his identity beyond just wearing a mask, or work with any, let alone every major superhero team, all between the ages of 15 and 18. Clark wasnt born in or raised anywhere near Metropolis, he wanted to go, to lead and be lead by them, to travel the world and do all he can to help those in need, to work with the justice league. They both inspire because they represent both sides of why we do good, because we have to, because we we're obligated. Threatening their loved ones in order to create tension is representative of a lack of confidence that the audience will care otherwise.
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And then Batman is in the middle of the two, struggling to get over the death of his parents, but each person he helps, the less he focuses on it.
*“With great power comes great responsibility”*
I feel like that quote is most suitable to Superman. The most powerful character in the DC universe is also the most responsible because of his kind-nature and unshakable morals. Like Peter, he offers his free will to help others for nothing in return. Despite powerful figures (ie Lex Luthor & J. Jonah Jameson) trying to paint a bad picture of them to their respected cities, they persist on fighting for what they believe in and let their actions do the talking. Because of their power levels, they hold back extensively and could do some serious damage if all responsibility was lost, like how we see in Injustice or when Peter let loose on Kingpin.
@@polmeister. yeah we need another crossover between them they have such a similar outlook on life
I think the key and most sad part as to why people don’t get Superman is that they can’t comprehend having that level of power and choosing to do the right thing.
People actually say he’s outdated, but I actually think Superman is more relevant than ever in this day and age for the reasons above.
It is as if people don't have empathy or something.
People are A hols so they want there superheroes to be A hols so they could relate to them if superheroes are good how can we relate to them we can't because we are A hols
Agree
You'll have to forgive me but I disagree. I think I would qualify and add to your statement by changing it. We're better than some times we know how be but I wouldn't say as a rule that we're assholes.
you know the things about luxe is one time he is good and then he is doing bad I think superman have a point when he sayes to luxe I can see the good in you
People like to act as A holes so they want heroes to not be smt aspirational or set an example for fear they fail to follow it.
I think if most of us were to be super heroes, we'd be most like Batman. But we should all strive to be like Superman.
I feel like we need a Superman now more than ever. Stay safe everyone
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Honestly I used to be in the camp of "it's impossible for Superman to be interesting because he's invincible". Actually took reading One Punch Man to realize how wrong I was. It's not the powers that make a story, its how the author uses them as a vehicle to tell compelling stories. Anyways, I've become a certified Superman defender and fan. Great video and very well sums up exactly what makes him such a great, timeless character. Tired of the cynicism and nihilism, and really needed a character like Supes who will be ever the optimist.
Thank you for this video. Superman for me is not a boring character but a character that represents faith. Faith that there is good in the world, faith that humanity will fight for justice, faith in hope. It is this faith that shows the hope of Superman embodies. Imagine, a man a thousand times more powerful than you and he has faith that you can do good. I find that incredibly inspiring, and also a bit melancholic because, in today's world, people lose faith in hope. People see the ugly side of life and say, Why live justly? Why should I hope for good? I know at least I have asked those questions in my life. However, every time I think of Superman's character, I am reminded of hope. The sole example that a man can view the ugliest sides of humanity and say "I will still fight for good, because I have faith in humanity" is a powerful message. That is why I like superman as hero. Not as much as others with a similar role, like The Flash or Nightwing (in the sense that he represents a brighter batman), but Superman is epitome of faith. And this part of his character is what I feel that the current superman movies fail to grasp. They don't show the struggling man that has unending faith in humanity, but the super that can solve problems with the flick of the wrist.
People who say Superman is outdated while fanboying over Batman completely miss the point; At the end of the day, Batman came about from the same values that make Superman, just applied differently. Superman wants to do good because he has the means to do so and that's how he was raised. Batman wants to make something good come from his loss and tries to do so through the means available to him. He might not be as outwardly nice about it as Clark, but Bruce wants to do good just as much as he does. It's why depicting them as close friends works as well as it does.
They're effectively two sides of the same coin.
Well said
We need more Batmen and Supermen in this world.
Love both Bats and Supes in different ways. They're both what a super idealist like me strives to be, mentally at least. I'd always argue when someone says Superman is not a compelling character. His powers are so above us but he's so human. I totally agree with the point that Superman is supposed to be a symbol of hope and the Snyder films have in some ways butchered that endearing quality of his.
At least someone understands superman. I think Snyder should watch this video. Superman’s gets so much hate and is a character with misconceptions. He’s not boring and he’s much more relatable than batman. He’s the paragon of humanity and all superheroes. Excellent character study.
The Omega Effect how is he more reliable? I’m sure the man who is the perfect human being is more reliable than the broken man.
Eem 2wavy
Superman is a metaphor for immigrants and people who suffer alienation. He is an outsider.
Superman suffers existentialism.
Superman works a 9-5 job, whilst batman is a billionaire
superman’s intentions are superior to batman. - batman doesn’t want to teach criminals he just wishes they are dead.( he doesn’t kill since he knows as a result he’d become a Murderer - not a good person),
Superman wishes to teach people to love and have compassion.
Superman is he paragon of humanity and humankind, he is the beacon of what people should aspire to be.
Despite superman’s power it doesn’t change his ideology
Superman proves that if you are good, kind and have a loving heart you can achieve any goal or dream. Batman however proves to be successful or respected you need money and wealth,
Superman is called super’MAN’, and not super-alien or super-being, because he’s the best that we can be. When we love care and save someone etc, we are superman
Superman fights to defeat villains because he fears failing humankind and letting people down.
Superman is a metaphor for the result of love and compassion. Clark kents parents defines superman
(Mum)Martha kent=love and empathy
(Dad)Jonathan kent= leader, self sacrifice
(Wife)Lois lane= perseverance
Superman is how he visions humankind. He sees humans as incredible and a piece of astonishment,
I could name much more but I probably written to much anyway 😂
The Omega Effect
That’s him more relatable?
Superman doesn’t have to work he works bc he wants to not bc he needs to.
Do you read batman comics? Even the joker himself says batman goals are to re habilitate all the criminals bc he think they can become good. And of course he would wish for some dead he is human and that’s relatable I’m not sure what was your point with this.
Your contradicting yourself honestly no human is perfect but Superman is and yet he is relatable? Yeah no Superman is not relatable if he is what humans strive to become that makes zero sense. Flawed people are relatable perfect people aren’t.
Lol wft? Batman does not prove non of that shit. Hell batman is not even about the money batman is about what humans can achieve and how they can surpass their limits. He makes us want to work out and go to the gym or learn martial art. Talking about is money or wealth is not even half the story of Batman it’s more about tech and martial arts.
Again that is contradicting what you are saying. You say Superman is more relatable but then you talk about how perfect he is like do you know what relatable means?
You should not clearly your definition of relatable is different from my.
Perfect people are apparently more relatable than a flawed person but whatever
Eem 2wavy none can become batman unless your a billionaire. Anyone can become superman. Superman is a symbol and a metaphor of justice and compassion. Saving a person, or doing a good deed in your life, is being superman. That’s what superman is it’s just you do understand him. That’s why he is called superman and not super alien or superperson. The man in the title is significant as it explores what it is to be great.
Batman isn’t a good person. He doesn’t kill because he fears the consequences and the result of his own sanity after. Superman is constantly struggling to hold back, because he fears the danger it would leave if he didn’t. Batman holds back because he would become a homicidal murderer, overwise. Batman is a sociopath.
Superman teaches you the result of having good values and a kind heart, batman teaches you the path of tyranny which would happen if tragedy existed in your life.
Superman lives an understandable, and average and relatable job. Batman lives as a billionaire can get whatever he wants
Eem 2wavy superman can be affected by emotions. It’s his very weakness just like human. He is constantly facing existentialism. And alienation.
Batman cannot be corrupted by such emotions as easily, he is the embodiment of fear. He very rarely gets bullied in the aspect of feelings.
Superman is the very definition of a superhero. He is good, kind, and stands for justice and what is right. He is the very first superhero and influenced all of those who came after him. Without Superman, we most likely wouldn’t have Batman or Spider-Man, or they wouldn’t be the same as they are now. Superman is an unstoppable force of good and I’m happy that someone recognizes it.
Batman was my favorite when I was EDGY lol,but that change after I started to read DC rebirth by Geoff Johns and Superman by Peter Tomasi,big fan now thanks to these guys.
Just don't read Superman by Bendis... please for the love of God don't do that.
I give up after Tomasi left,not much main title reading only Hawkman,The Green Lantern( both miniseries) and last infamous Doomsday clock (just read 11 today it was amazing)
Many people hate doomsday clock beacuse of delays.but this series is masterpiece.DC fukd with Geoff's vison of rebirth.Dick,Wally all gone....
Nah. Batman is the absolute best.
Why do superman fans gotta hate on Batman all the time?
i don't understand how people hate Superman. In this world of horrible people, reading and watching Superman is refreshing
I have only grown to love the character of superman more and more as the years gone by and I better found out his ethos through the comics
I'm happy that a lot of RUclipsrs the same as you are also trying to show the people what Superman as a character is truly about.
I think there's still hope with shows like Superman and Lois that show not only Superman, but Clark struggling with his life and his duty.
Superman is somehow still underrated. As far as a straight hero, he’s the 🐐.
It's crazy how misrepresented Superman has become in adaptations, people are more interested in him as an anti hero and villain than a paragon of improvement
@@HELLO_KORO straight facts bro. Superman’s character overtime has lowkey turned into just a feat for Batman defeating him but I’m watching Superman And Lois and realizing how great he is again. Also injustice has a lot to do with that
Agreed,he represents the best of humanity and I hope the next adaptations of him truly show that his greatest power is his humility and empathy
@@nbanextlegend7497 agreed. Personally I’m praying that Superman And Lois is not gonna be a 3 and out, and continues to be a great show.
@@Lil_Santa_2001 I gotta watch more of it!! I'm a bit slow with series,I think I'm still at season 1 somewhere past half the episodes
Speaking of series I think Mark Grayson is probably the best modern Superman adaptation imo,he screws up quite a bit because he's a teen and new to the whole being a superhero thing but he still has a heart of gold and does absolutely the best he can to save people
That lex luthor statement BLEW my mind. Holy hell the world is lex luthor
I loved Superman ever since I was a baby. I still love Superman until this very day. I will never stop loving Superman.
Really I always hated him
@@j0an-07-arc6 why tho
@@jethroot8992 it’s hard to fucking tell
@@elijenkins5121 he’s probably just confused. I don’t think he really hates Superman. He hates that boring and stoic Superman we’ve had with Zack Snyder’s version filled with Jesus imagery and that disgusted me.
same bro
The thing that bugged me the most about cavil's super-man was that he seemed like a pessimistic incarnation of a highly optimistic & hopeful personality.
Henrys Superman is still growing into being a hero, unlike other Superman people don't question their actions where Henrys Superman no matter what he does it sparks controversy. He saves lives and all it does is spark more debate making him question if he should be a hero, but yet despite all this he keeps going.
@@l0sts0ul89 My point is that he indeed is a brilliant superhero but the problem is that he seemed to be not sure about being one as he struggled with constant doubt as if he should be doing all this or not - saving people but on the other hand, an ideal superman would be a figure who's actions are independent of people's opinion but is dependent on his own good will.
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And that's fine, he's still human in the and and isn't that what we want from Superman? The powers of a God but the mind of a man, he's not perfect and he's still learning but with enough time he'll become great... will if the Synderverse ever continues that is.
@@l0sts0ul89 I wish they would have continued the snyderverse,so that we could see this superman in his prime but sadly, that is not going to happen anytime soon.
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We can only hope.
Superman has, and will always be someone I aspire to be and a light in my heart when everything else is dark.
Superman is truly my hero :)
Superman is the literal definition of a superhero. The role model for all superhero and everyone
Finally someone else sees the relation between the personalities of superman and captain America
Power doesn't corrupt it just reveals a person's True natural people think they have changed because they behave differen from them selves before but in actuality they were always like that they were just suppressing them selves because of fear of society because they are powerless but when given power they just start acting like there inner True self so no power doesn't corrupt it just reveals
Note: power doesn't corrupt it just reveals originally said by CurtRichy from CurtRichy channel
Now your trying to be a psychologist hopefully when I get my degree people will listen philosophy and psychology are my expertise
Name 1 leader / king that hasn’t abused their power
@@crimsonbladewielder1975 Thomas Sankara?
@@crimsonbladewielder1975 Cyrus the Great?
Superman is and always will be my real life hero. He have started out as a comic book character, however, he is real to me. During 7 hellish years of depression. Remembering that he would never give up made me strong. I out the other side because his ideals on kindness and leading with love and compassion not only made me survive but made me thrive. Thank you for this tribute to the greatest of heroes ❤️💜💪
Superman has always been my favorite since I was a kid reading the comics in the 60s. This video explains why I love that big lug.
Superman's whole dynamic is not combat-based, which is why I love him. I don't like the thought of a villain being taken on in a fight. Superman is the embodiment of the good of humanity, while Luthor is the embodiment of the evil of humanity. Superman is a moralist, and Luthor is a nihilist. They are the two sides of the one coin that is humanity. When we get power, we can choose to do good or to do evil. Superman is the symbol of doing the right thing with absolute power. That's what makes him special. We need moral truth in this society now more than ever. Superman is not about power, he's about responsibility.
this needs more views.
Smickler 83 good word of mouth goes a long way :D
These needs less views he will never be perfect and isn’t even a good character he is a written disaster
@@theonlyethanhiroshiki what no
@@theonlyethanhiroshiki why do child like idiots always compare him to batman it’s always one sided to you people
@@j0an-07-arc6 Why you hating my dude 😂 idk what that other guy said but u seem really offended
personally I believe the qualities of superman people call "boring" or "outdated" just makes him all the more unique is what makes him stand out from all the edgy grimdark heroes
The guy just needs some good representation from people that care and respect him and know how to bring his core values to the big screen.
My thing is they say Superman didn’t earn his strength but technically it takes more strength to hold back when someone hurting or bullying you for instance when he was in high school he had to hold back cuz he can easily kill them with one finger so that’s true strength. And also being able to forgive people even after they just killed people or someone you cares about.
A year later when people are sadly demanding WB restore the snyderverse I needed to come back to this
Why sadly, just curious I won't start an argument or fight.
I suppose with news of an upcoming Flashpoint film it is all salvageable (the point being that in my opinion it needs fixing). While I did somewhat enjoy the movies, as a fan of comics, particularly dc comics, I feel they began on a really terrible foundation with Man of Steel and BvS. The visuals were good but the characters were wrong almost like the movies creators find superman an embarrassing character or too unbelievable that his story had to be recreated - not told differently but undone and changed. And even then they didn't do it well as far as storytelling and film standards go. From my personal observations I'd say this. Jonathan Kent did mess up everything like if Uncle Ben didn't believe that with great power comes great responsibility; superman's only value was his abilities but he had no personal convictions or life goals, he made no choices and just wanders till he's forced to act. BvS brought a Batman near the end of his story and therefore somehow unrecognisable with Superman mostly ignored, left the wanderer he was, and the movie as a whole was a mess plotwise while undermining the feeling I got from man of Steel that superman was the first hero to appear in the snyderworld. Maybe this whole time snyder had just wanted to make The Dark Knight Returns into a film which I bet he'd have done so well.
I can only summarise the above as it would take too long explaining the dissatisfaction I have for snyder's version of DC comics stories. I say dissatisfaction cause I see such good ideas and actors wasted in incoherent and/or rushed films.
@@lalahpa4272 I understand what you mean and personal I don't really know what I want. I don't know if I want the snyder version or a reboot, I just hope things get better from here but I completely understand what you mean.
@@Indy921 me too, I hope things get better
@@lalahpa4272 I thought Jonathan was very faithful to the source material.
Loved this. Superman is so misunderstood as a character. I love that he's good just for the sake of being good. He doesn't need an angsty backstory to motivate him (yes, he lost his birth parents, but he was adopted so young into such a loving family; it's sad, but not angsty. Plus, he's good because of his upbringing, not his trauma). I really love superman stories that are about loneliness and isolation; he seems fundamentally different than everyone around him, but really he's the most human of them all. That's what I gravitate towards most.
Why are people always complaining about superman being overpowered he's what a hero should be always helping others and teaching people to be the best person they can be
We are back into the age of Superman finally appreciated again.
I hope James Gunn makes something incredible and keeps the spark alive.
Grant Morrison. Jeph Loeb. Have to be some of my favourite superman writers. Superman is limitless. Imo. He has moral limits that dictate to what extents he uses his powers in any given situation.
I’ve honestly always thought Superman was someone to aspire to be. We can all aspire to believe in man kind like him. Superman has hope in mankind, something that we all should aspire to have. And he isn’t boring, on the hands of a good writer any hero can be seen interesting. He doesn’t need to be Batman, he should be Superman, cause no other hero gives you that bright fussy feeling of hope while reading him
With the way the world is going today we need "superman"more than ever
Aside from his obvious super powers, Superman is quite a personable character one could actually hang out with.
+ An incredible birth and legacy, yet has an everyday and humble upbringing.
+ Has a typical job and relationship the average person can relate to.
+ Half his life is ordinary or mundane like everyone else, while the other is something many people dream off.
I grew up with all superheroes, and superman has been my most favorite dc hero because of how heroic and hopeful he is
And how he can see there's good in people 😭👏🏼
The Snyder films did damage to our society with their corrupt portrayal of such a noble cultural icon. These are our modern myths. The points brought up in this video are spot on!
13:16 I have a suggestion for the way DC could've fixed Man of Steel. What if they kept humans rejecting Clark, but Kal-El continues to fight for them anyway? What if the arc isn't really Superman, but rather the people of Metropolis? I've always envisioned that Metropolis should be bleak and pessimistic with high suicide rates, homelessness, and poverty(while Gotham suffers from corruption and dangerous crime). Lex Luthor endorses the cynical views of humanity and leads the people of Metropolis in creating hoplessness. Creating this setting contrast against Superman could help him stand out and why his "naïve optimism" can work.
I like it, it would show how the modern world has changed but Superman doesn't
Snyder doesn't believe Superman is a hero. He thinks of him as a God. REAL Superman fans know he represents the inner God all of us can become when we choose to act with kindness and a loving heart.
@@panthergod Right? When I envision Superman on screen, I want to feel warm and hopeful. Like I did with Cap in First Avenger. His selflessness bled off the screen for me and his character was always inspiring to me. I know I'm comparing, but Superman should feel that way, if not even more
Great idea, underrated comment
Superman is the most powerful hero of all time. The greatest.
His stories are emotional Conflicts, the reasons and purposes behind why he uses his powers the way he does in any given situation. His morals, his code, what he stands for as an individual. He is a human being with power that can’t be matched. He is emotionally vulnerable like any everyone. It’s his actions and the way he handles himself and others that makes him so special. He doesn’t have a physical weakeness, he is resistant to Kryptonite and red sun light. It’s with time and experience that he learns how to use his powers in those situations. MAGIC WAS NEVER A WEAKENESS OF HIS. He has beaten tons of people who use magic.
As a writer. You do not have to nerf a hero who is limitlessly powerful in order to present his story. This is an issue I’ve had with his cartoons, movies and sometimes his comics.
His stories are everyday experiences that any human being can relate to. We all have power it’s how we use it to what extent and the conflicts/consequences that may come into play.
In addition to this,Superman is an amazing example of nature and nurture this heavily informs him of how and why he uses his powers the way he does.
I love superman. He’s the GOAT. Most powerful hero ever and I hope more people show him the respect he deserves. Without Superman Comics wouldn’t be where it is today. He started it all. He’s the role model for every hero that exists, there would be no batman, spider-man, Captain América, Captain Marvel (Shazam), Wonder Woman and many more if it wasn’t for Superman.
Love superman and I always will. My favourite hero. Strong. Kind. Optimistic. Leader. Legend. Friend. Thoughtful. Intelligent. Emphatic. Loving. He’s everything anyone would want in a hero and more.
Have good day guys. I wish you every happiness and success in this life.
Peace !
His stories are emotional or philosophical he’s conflicts are all the same and when he does he never changes never overcomes it never learns
"MAGIC WAS NEVER A WEAKENESS OF HIS. He has beaten tons of people who use magic."
There are events where he does get hurt by magic, of course people like you ignore them. There are legit fans out there who literally think that he can solo all of Marvel and DC. They are the most stupidest people I've ever heard of, they constantly cherry pick(not a lot of people know about the meaning of that word so I suggest that it should be looked up) /take out of context the feats and facts to oblivion in order to create the delusion of Superman being more powerful than he is.
Superman was not the first superhero, the two authors who wrote him in the 20th century also took inspiration from other things. Nor is he the first character with powers and abilities unexplained by the laws of physics.
By your diluted logic, characters in Greek or Norse mythology should be able to kill Superman since they were one of the first powerful fictional characters before Superman. But Superman fanboys think that Superman can defeat Zeus. What a joke.
@@j0an-07-arc6 He's one of those Superman fans who spam comments like these often using the "he was first!" argument and than they go there way and not respond to counter arguments/reply's because they are too afraid that their delusions would be shattered or they are just ignorant. He's not even the first Superhero, his authors took inspiration from other things, he isn't even the first fictional character with powers and abilities unexplained by the laws of physics. They always keep on projecting their pride/smug at others using emojis or emotion text symbols to deliberately make people mad, they ironically do all this due to their personal insecurities about a fictional character. They are mentally children, seriously its embarrassing.
Even if he was the first Superhero, they NEVER explain the logic behind the "he was first!" argument somehow making Superman "the most powerful Superhero". That tells a lot about how much human level intelligence they have left or any at all, they are literally drunk in their fantasies of Superman.
This guy is saying that he doesn't have a physical weakness when a character with the power/ability of immunity negation(permanent) in a good enough powerset can hurt him with a regular knife or a human level strength punch.
"He is a human being with power that can’t be matched."
No, he is an alien called Kryptonians who's appearance is of Human likeness.
My Grandfather lived in the same era of time as the John Kent in the Donner Superman film. He started working a full-time job to support his mother, sisters, and brothers when he was in the fourth grade. He taught me that being a man was about taking care of your family and friends being the rock they needed even when it was hard. He taught me to reach out a hand to anyone who needed my help regardless of there background, and to stand up to protect others. Those seem to be the same things John taught Clark and it seems to me those teachings are still pretty relevant to the modern day not just the sixties. It's not that Warner doesn't know that they just don't think they can sell it. That's why they used Snyder.
Superman is a character who can actually teach kids how to be a good person
Great video! Love the use of Grant Morrison’s interview. I show that to people who think he’s “OP” all the time. All Star Superman is the best. Also Verisimilitude! Exactly the word I was looking for. As for Man of Steel, it promised so much and used a lot of quotes from Birthright, All Star and Secret Origin, but in the end it disappointed..
No you know your stuff. I agree with you. Superman will forever be the best superhero. I am obsessed with superheros so you can tell how obsessed I a with superman.
Something that I always liked so much about Superman is more or less what he represents, rather then what he's trying to pull off or be.
Superman's greatest trait, his greatest power isn't the strength, or the flight, or even the laser eyes. It's the heart. An alien comes to earth and learns to understand its people, and with love and faith becomes the embodiment of what humanity should be, what it can be: compassion, justice, courage and humility. Superman is super, because he is a man.
I share superman’s morals and values, it’s one of the reasons I love him. His example of believing in better rather than acting in anger or spite because others deem it acceptable. There’s always another way in my opinion. It’s his values that I love. Many thanks for this video.
Wow... Thank you so much for this. Superman has always been a massive inspiration in my life ever since I watched Smallville when I was younger. That was the gateway into the comics and I've loved this character ever since. Superman is relevant today more than he ever has been. It's really sad that Warner Bros. Can't seem to get that.
I just want the world to believe a man can fly again.
I literally just got into Superman and am collecting adventures of Superman comics. Amazing video! You know your stuff
he does.
If you haven't I personally recommend All Star- Birthright-Whatever Hapoened to The Man of Tomorrow- and - Kingdom Come 👌
Diego De la Fuente thanks for the suggestions!
Honestly, when i was 10-13 I was a Batman fan, he was my favourite superhero, but in last 2-3 years i started seeing Superman for what he is, now i am a lot like Clark and Peter Parker(In my opinion Spider-man should be Marvel's Superman, a symbol of hope, but being a person like us) and i love the two characters, i basicly became Superman from Batman in a way. KInda crazy now that i think about it. What do you think? What does Superman mean to you, and how he changed your view on word, and how he chaned you?
Batman is my favorite hero, but Superman is one I enjoy. One of my first introductions to superheroes was Superman. He’s more powerful than nearly everyone in the justice league, but he still views them as equals. Superman is a great hero. To me Superman Yang of the DC universe while Batman is the Yin of DC.
For me its an unpopular hero the most relatable superhero ever made is imo netflix DAREDEVIL
For me Superman is the ultimate symbol of hope and faith not only yourself ... but also for God.
No he’s the symbol of fear he is sublime almost every person fears him just in different ways some fear him as a treat others fear him as a god
@Tanner Hutchings superman sucks have a Nice day
Christ is King brother ❤
Amen to what both of you said!
I love when clips of Christopher Reeve are used.
I often see people saying how Lex came from nothing, and had to crawl his way to the top, while Superman was born with his powers. While that is true, your missing the point of their relationship.
Not all good men have to have suffered, not all bad men privileged, it's just a matter of what you do, and who you are.
Lex is a bad man, he lets his own cynicism infect his view of everything around him, believing that it all doesn't matter, that all anyone should care about in the end is themselves, because that's all we'll ever have.
Superman is an optimist, he believes in the best in people, is always willing to lend a hand to those who need it, and those who think they don't. He had everything he needs, he is happy 'just' helping others.
Lex could have been a better man, he could have been like Superman, used all his smarts and wealth to help others, instead of hating Superman who does nothing wrong, as Superman said.
"If you really wanted to save the world, you could have".
Superman could have become like Lex, only caring about himself, uncaring to those he hurts. But they aren't that way, because Clark Kent is Superman, and Lex Luther, is Lex Luther.
The thing I love about Batman and Superman is that they both stand for the same thing, the change of humanity.
Batman inspires change by making evil fear what they'd not only do to others, but to themselves. To this day, he's still trying to convince the Joker that he can change.
Superman inspires change by sticking to the values of an optimist. I think Superman VS the Elite movie covers this 1000 times better than I can
You have elucidated everything I felt about Superman since I first started reading about him around 1960. I agree totally with your perspective. Great job!
Considering how the reality reacts, the modern day human beings do not deserve even a hero, let alone Superman. We've already seen what would happen or the gist of it in BvS. We all want out Superman to eat the cake and not wanting to worry about the drowning horses. Everyone wants Superman to have a human mindset but when he has those characteristics, people complains.
It's called having flaws which Superman doesn't have. Everything he does is perfect and always the right thing to do. Ugh it's so fucking annoying
@@abney_66 Except he does have flaws. Superman makes mistakes in his life as Clark Kent, he gets outsmarted by Brainiac and even Lex, he gets beaten down by Darkseid and Doomsday over and over again, he fails to save people close to him. As powerful as Superman is he isn't omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient. If a speedster decides to screw the timeline Supes is as powerless as the rest of us, that's a job for Flash.
Watch Justice League Unlimited and come back and tell me Superman has no flaws.
@@enumaelish9193 Facts. It’s an interesting part of the character tho, that people see him as perfect. Everybody seems to think he’s got all the answers and solutions when Clark will be the first to admit he doesn’t. He admits he makes mistakes, specially right after making a mistake 😂. Yet people completely ignore that for some reason. They ignore the fact that Supes is just some humble dude from Kansas trying to help. Maybe people are just under a misconception I suppose.
@@enumaelish9193 bro being outsmarted isn't a flaw. Neither is getting beaten up. What I'm getting at is his mistakes in the comics, shows and even in the movies are always treated as being the right decision. He can't never make any wrong decision. He is always saying or doing right thing at the right time. Therefore he is flawless and perfect as far as dc is concerned.
He isn't a human literally and figuratively as much as the comics try to push this notion, we can never be or strive to be him as that is trying to be perfect which we humans aren't. We are very flawed individuals, we make mistakes and we have to live with the consequences. That's why superheroes like Ironman, Batman, and Spiderman are more relatable characters than Superman or Captain America.
@@pardonmeexcuseme2839 bro that's how he is portrayed in the comics, movies, and alot of forms of media. Every thing he does is right. He can fucking stub his toe on a chair and somehow that was apart of his master plan or whatever. He is perfect. He is never portrayed as being flawed. Stop being Superman fanboy and go outside for once
No he part in all star Superman when he finally realize what Superman was talking about was type heartbreaking. Like he finally understood
Absolute power only corrupts absolutely when the person in power wants the power
I used to love Batman... but as I grew older, it's the Superman that is most needed.
It’s kinda sad that at one point, I loved superman (and Spider-Man) considering they were great role models amongst youth. Over time as I grew, I forgotten about them becoming something I wasn’t. It’s sad that nowadays people say “superman is boring” and reward villains for their darkness and mysteriousness. I think we should go think for ourselves in a means of doing what’s right despite what 99% would say or disagree, because there’s a majority of people who succumb to things that are bad and minority of people that are trying to do good. Problem is everything that is bad is brainwashed into thinking it’s good. We need superman more than ever.
Thx for making this video bro, it really lift me up, Supes has always been my favorite superhero of all time and I hate to see how much hate he gets from ppl
You say everything I've complained about Superman in DCEU being. He isn't a hero because he wants to due to him being raised that way, he now obligated to do so because space dad said he would be and then have people shit on him in return. Superman isn't here to be realistic, he is here to inspire us to be better.
I think Snyder's vision was to make him find himself and rise out of the dark pit that is inflicted by the people on him. Instead of starting out already having his identity fortified and beloved by the people. The end of BvS is imo a concrete proof for his love of humanity, even if the people he saves does not love him back.
@@Dxntoo I agree. People seem to think if you like cavill superman, you hate the superman character when truly thats not the case. I love both interpretations of superman and that’s ok. We all can like different versions of characters.
Being realistic in fiction is necessary in one way or another
Superman in dceu isn't superman yet snyder was kinda showing us the journey of kal el becoming the superman over the course of movies
I think the three characters that take the most away from the modern appeal of Superman are Batman, Captain America, & Goku. DC has pretty much chosen Batman as their champion b/c of his dominance in almost every medium (TV, movies, video games, graphic novels, etc...). Cap has become the ultimate boy scout in the eyes of the general public due to the MCU. And while Dragon Ball started out as the Japanese version of Journey to the West, DBZ pretty much retconned the franchise to be Akira Toriyama's own Superman story. But a great & successful adaptation is all takes to win the masses back to appreciating Superman again.
Watch Superman and Lois. I think they nailed it.
@Tanner Hutchings The subject is appeal, not quality of character.
I disagree about your critique about Goku, sure Goku did have a couple of poses from Superman but the only similarity they have with each other is the Moses symbolism and them both being aliens. The english dub also made goku say some superman lines at times. But, apart from that Goku is not Superman in anyway there characters are different, Superman lives to serve and protect the people, Goku lives to train, get stronger and fight strong opponents but will protect the world if a major threat arises.
@@tnmblonewolf8799 I never said that Batman, Captain America, & Goku are EXACTLY like Superman. Each just have aspects of what Superman offers. Need your fix of a caped superhero w/ a secret lair? Batman's got you covered. Want to see a boy scout All-American leader? Steve Rogers at your service. How about a story of a superpowered alien who lands on Earth as one of the last of his species? Here's Son Goku for you. Heck, one can argue that Spider-Man also provides the Clark Kent aspect, especially since he works for a news company.
Goku isn’t like Superman at all. The only thing inspired by Superman was his origin as an alien from another planet. Akira Toriyama himself said Goku isn’t a hero. He’s a just a martial artist who likes to fight strong beings. He’s just so happens to save the world while fighting. Of course he won’t let his friends and family be harmed but it’s not always his intention to fight for earth.
Amazing video. One of the best breakdowns of superman I have ever seen and I love that you brought in Nietzshe and Kant. Here's hoping the further brings us better Superman stories. Some Writers just seem to have forgotten how to write herculean heroes.
Fantastic video, you really got what makes Superman great and enduring, while also pointing out the problem with failed comic book adaptations. Superman will always be the greatest hero of them all :)
Clark is the human heart of Superman. He is at his best and most relatable when he uses his mind and reason rather than his fists. Clark is the real person, who drives the best of what Superman can be.
So happy my son's name is Clark middle name Kal
That's just cool
Good parent right here
@@catosicarius9047 thanks 😊
Cynicism isn't wisdom, and optimism isn't naivety - I think those words just changed my life
I started watching smallville and it's so great seeing clark growing up to be a man and learning what it trueley is to he a hero.
no matter how much DC oversaturates Batman, Superman will always represent and be the most popular Character and Iconic Superhero
Honestly, nothing like DC or Marvel would even be here if weren't for Superman, he is the hero we all truly needed.
Superman needs to be overpowered to represent the unbeatbale human spirit and seeing the good in everything depsite not being the popular sexy one.
Superman being optimistic in a cynical world is exactly why he’s relevant.
Superman is such a cool superhero and great video man :]
"If Clark wanted to, he could use his superspeed and squish me into the cement. But I know how he thinks. Even more than the Kryptonite, he's got one big weakness. Deep down, Clark's essentially a good person... and deep down, I'm not." -Batman
That's Absolutely True and your Right 👍
Hope is never outdated
Great video, Man. Superman and his outdated but now more necessary morals inspired me to be most everything I am now, and he still does. This just reminded me why. Thank you very much!
Superman is the one guy I won’t hurt especially reeves
-chuck Norris
Anything Superman is music to my ears so I had to check this out.
Love the intro and great to hear all about the man. Thank you for creating this.
Absolute power shows what a person would always have done… which is why paragons like Superman and Captain America are the greatest heroes of our modern mythos.
This why superman always be the greatest and most iconic superhero
I think it's a valid interpretation, albeit sure a bit of a change, to make Superman a reluctant hero, not that he doesn't want to save people, he does, but that he does have doubts that he would be feared and resented. And in the movie Man of Steel humanity doesn't outright reject him, Lois and Perry notably accept him as does Pete, but the military and government do still remain cautious.
The problem is that Superman never goes away. At the start it’s fine for him to be apprehensive that’s what makes him relatable at the end of the day he’s just some guy from a backwater town in Kansas trying to do what’s right. It’s his journey to becoming Superman.
Loved the video man, good job. What I think when a lot of writers and the public say that "superman is not relatable, and that he's perfect, etc." They miss the point that Superman is supposed to inspire you and that Clark Kent is the one you are supposed to relate to. Dean Cain's Superman said it perfectly: "Superman is what I can do, Clark Kent is who I am." So in essence, in order to get Superman right, you have to get Clark Kent right; to get Clark Kent right, you have to get Ma and Pa Kent right. Which is something that a lot of people fail to realize/do.
My very first comic book was Superman, also the first live action series on Heroes from the 50's and the first animated super hero was also Superman. He and the other DC pantheon of heroes have always been something near and dear to my heart. I remember reading a quote about him from a comic creator. "anyone who says Superman is a hard person to write because of his invulnerability and so forth, what they're really showing is how incapable they are of crafting a story that people would want to read or watch."
Basically lazy writers.
A modern superman should probably be a superman that's in a hard struggle to comprehend what's right and what's not and that's far less active or much more specific about what he does.
The modern superman lives in a world where it's much harder to even know what the right thing to do *is*.... but that doesn't mean he will stop trying.
This was.... INCREDIBLE! Thank you so very much!
"But the one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying. In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually, they will hate you." - Norman Osborn
Great work!
I always felt off with DCEU's Superman. Though I found intersting the dilema of a 'god among men' and the politics involved, it was never SUPERMAN. That version never got to stop a robbery or a corrupt politician/business man, rescue a kitten from a tree nor save people on the other side of the planet from a natural or social disaster.
If DCEU pull off Flashpoint, they should definitely strive for Dini's and Ross's depiction in 'Peace on Earth' and 'Kingdom Come', as well as Morrison's 'All-Star'.
Who would you recast?