How the WWE Failed Roman Reigns (2014-2020)

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июн 2023
  • Roman Reigns since the beginning of his WWE career was always destined to be the top star in Pro Wrestling. Weather it was because of his family roots, the look, the charisma, or all of the above.. Roman Reigns was always supposed to be the face of the WWE. Now 11 years from his WWE debut as a member of the Shield, Roman has definitely done it and lived up to all the expectations. However.. for a long time, it seemed like he was destined to fail. Not because of his skills or anything he lacked, but it was the WWE that honestly was doing him dirty. With stupid booking, horrible feuds, and rushing his rise to the top. The WWE before Roman himself took matters into his own hands, left him as a flop.. Lets take a look back at those 6 years, from 2014 until 2020.. and How the WWE Failed Roman Reigns
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  • @WrestlinGifs
    @WrestlinGifs  Год назад +203

    Also just want to shoutout my boy @shyguyworks who helped me out with this video, compiling footage for me. He is super talented at making WWE edits. He just made one for Seth Rollins and its a banger, check him out ❤www.youtube.com/@shyguyworks/videos

    • @Lockeheartstv
      @Lockeheartstv Год назад +4

      You a time traveler?

    • @shyguyworks
      @shyguyworks Год назад +5

      Much love bro, thank you! Really proud to have been a part of this :)

    • @JLove2000swrestling
      @JLove2000swrestling Год назад +1

      I still don’t care about or like Roman he still over pushed he still overrated. And he is just the worst people like him noe just cause he turned heel I never liked him and I never will

    • @notoriousbdw3165
      @notoriousbdw3165 Год назад +2

      You should make a video about you booking Roman Reigns’ run from 2014-2020.

    • @jonsmittle9381
      @jonsmittle9381 Год назад +1

      They should have had him tur heel after undertaker match have him win title that summer and created the bloodline

  • @thetruej7872
    @thetruej7872 Год назад +1045

    It's crazy how Roman Reigns went from The Hated Hero to Beloved Villian.

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Год назад +92

      Fans were begging for a heel turn

    • @dwightyboy5324
      @dwightyboy5324 Год назад +50

      @@pleaseshutup7053 and some of them still complained 😂

    • @deanbecenti9769
      @deanbecenti9769 Год назад +2

      ​@@dwightyboy5324 stop it

    • @MonkeBoi66
      @MonkeBoi66 Год назад +15

      @@dwightyboy5324only people who liked the old Roman complained when he turned heel

    • @YashJames-gg8us
      @YashJames-gg8us Год назад +15

      I love both the babyface and heel Roman reigns.

  • @d4b0o5t5
    @d4b0o5t5 Год назад +715

    Crazy thing about the Cena and Roman 2017 feud, the fans were BEGGING for Cena to win.

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Год назад +37

      Because why is that crazy in 2017 the fans liked cena

    • @d4b0o5t5
      @d4b0o5t5 Год назад +108

      @@pleaseshutup7053 It was crazy because people didn't want Cena to win that bad since like 2005

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Год назад +78

      @@d4b0o5t5 in 2015 with the open challenges and cena out the main event the fans liked him again. And 2017 the fans knew cena was on the verge of going to the Hollywood full time.

    • @MalosiAudios
      @MalosiAudios Год назад +28

      The one time everyone wanted Super Cena to return, this was a reverse Daniel Bryan moment and Roman won despite that

    • @israelsingleton4667
      @israelsingleton4667 Год назад +1

      @@pleaseshutup7053 No they didn't, majority of fans were rooting for his opponents knowing Cena was gonna win

  • @Jazzmannnnn
    @Jazzmannnnn Год назад +1121

    What’s scary is that if COVID never happened we might’ve got the same Roman as before.

    • @rugalthreesixteen6812
      @rugalthreesixteen6812 Год назад +192

      Oh no question about that, imagine getting the same 1000 length with the cringey big dog character instead

    • @MicahBell38
      @MicahBell38 Год назад +78

      COVID should've never happened cus Millions died anyway

    • @rajveerkanojiya2985
      @rajveerkanojiya2985 Год назад +36

      ​@@rugalthreesixteen6812 man that would sck but we got the Tribal Chief is the best thing ever happened to the history of the entire universe, Omniverse all Existence ☝️🔥

    • @rajveerkanojiya2985
      @rajveerkanojiya2985 Год назад +22

      ​@@MicahBell38 billions of people are nothing against Roman Reigns and people die anyway daily 180k

    • @R-R-RanDom
      @R-R-RanDom Год назад +42

      ​​@@rajveerkanojiya2985 millions shouldn't have to die for entertainment wtf? Lol

  • @TheNFLPick6
    @TheNFLPick6 Год назад +598

    They should have turned him heel the night after WM33. Instead of saying “this is my yard now” he should have said “Acknowledge Me”

    • @northenlightsss
      @northenlightsss Год назад +50

      Definitely 👏👏👏, would've been dope

    • @MalosiAudios
      @MalosiAudios Год назад +23

      That would've been sick

    • @mycahjofficial
      @mycahjofficial Год назад +51

      I’ve been saying this for years, that was the perfect time for the company to turn Roman heel. Just imagine if we had the tribal chief gimmick at that time that would’ve been phenomenal. It would’ve amazing to see, but nope, WWE for some idiotic reason kept him as the corny, bland and uncharismatic babyface with the fans resented and that’s all because of that idiot Vince McMahon. Way to go Vince, way to go.

    • @blackdaze5052
      @blackdaze5052 Год назад +14

      But in hindsight, what was wrong about the time he did. What would have been improved if he turn heel earlier. This run of his has been going great.

    • @orenges7034
      @orenges7034 Год назад +8

      Tbh this is my yard and just leaving was perfect

  • @DVRKKNIGHT
    @DVRKKNIGHT Год назад +333

    Ironically, Roman's redemption arc as a villian is so much more influential and admiring to the youth. Anybody can be a face, but a good/intimidating heel is very rare.

    • @docoak17
      @docoak17 Год назад +37

      I totally disagree, it's harder to be a good babyface, it's too easy to piss people off now. Everybody seems to love heels.

    • @zeekjones2492
      @zeekjones2492 Год назад +16

      @@docoak17 yes this is true. People grow bored, tired of baby face super heroes(Hogan in the 80s, Super Cena) with no human factor, story arc, lack of struggle, a reason to go to the dark side despite it being for the right reason(example Thanos) or anti hero.
      This is what made Austin, CM Punk, and The Rock for examples compelling back in the day.
      This is also what happens when WWE uses TV writers as opposed to wrestling bookers who can make storylines that make sense and allow the wrestler to improvise and tweak their own characters.

    • @allenshadrick22
      @allenshadrick22 Год назад +4

      People prefer heel Champs these days

    • @WavvyBlues23
      @WavvyBlues23 Год назад

      🤣how is it hard to be basically an asshole smh

    • @I_beat_up_cuckolds
      @I_beat_up_cuckolds 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@docoak17except Roman is not a heel. He is a Machiavellian villain . He has transended the heel domain quite easily.

  • @sonicheroxd5767
    @sonicheroxd5767 Год назад +161

    According to Heyman in a recent interview, the Baron Corbin feud is what broke Roman.
    That feud is what made him put his foot down and demand that he turn heel.
    Baron Corbin is the reason The Tribal Chief exists. Think about that.

    • @OfficialNobl3
      @OfficialNobl3 Год назад

      Soooo we should thank Baron Corbin 😂 bitch need to go back to the LoneWolf gimmick since he the reason behind gimmick changes

    • @felttranceparrty3069
      @felttranceparrty3069 Год назад +10

      Whilst I doubt this is true, if it is then it must have been a long road for roman to finally realise that face him would never get over

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Месяц назад +1

      lol imagine believing anything Paul heyman says he’s a bigger liar and crook than hill hogan

  • @hhtptai
    @hhtptai Год назад +282

    Being a Roman Reigns fan during his Big Dog era was a wild ass time, blud. I was on Tumblr for like five years fighting for my life trying to defend Roman and his push lmao 😂

    • @truthteller7283
      @truthteller7283 Год назад +46

      TBF. Where I can see the valid complaints on why some fans don’t like him. You can also clearly see how many of them were just following the opinions of others.
      Some wrestling fans are just sheep. Following the opinion on what most other people say because it makes it the easiest for them to think and to be accepted. Not just with Roman but with a lot of things in the industry.

    • @rajbhargaw6
      @rajbhargaw6 Год назад +20

      I can relate 😪

    • @GJBattles
      @GJBattles Год назад +1

      Same

    • @kevinhenry4047
      @kevinhenry4047 Год назад +36

      Being a fan of Roman Reigns during that time was kind of like being gay in the 80s lmao.

    • @mrterrific2323
      @mrterrific2323 Год назад +9

      Same, I was fighting for my life in highschool 😂😂

  • @mrgoosej
    @mrgoosej Год назад +479

    Roman took a major comeback after coming back.

    • @rydertaylorr
      @rydertaylorr Год назад +1

      tbh no he didnt, he js was milked by his sugar daddys in the pandemic and wwe couldnt find someone to beat him. thats why the bloodline story was so important at wrestlemania

    • @bhupendrakumarsoni8232
      @bhupendrakumarsoni8232 Год назад +4

      You got nice words there

    • @JACQUEZJOHNSON23
      @JACQUEZJOHNSON23 Год назад +13

      ​@@rydertaylorr 3 millions views on the bloodline video on a Friday night smackdown last year u tried it tho

    • @rajveerkanojiya2985
      @rajveerkanojiya2985 Год назад +3

      ​@@rydertaylorr also 2.5m viewership

    • @ironic4910
      @ironic4910 Год назад

      ​@@JACQUEZJOHNSON2340

  • @deuceray1416
    @deuceray1416 Год назад +239

    Love him or hate him, you got to admit the comeback was incredible to see!

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Год назад +13

      What comeback? He’s in the same position he was during this time

    • @deuceray1416
      @deuceray1416 Год назад

      @@pleaseshutup7053 At least when he gets booed, he gets booed as a heel instead of baby face.

    • @bhupendrakumarsoni8232
      @bhupendrakumarsoni8232 Год назад

      ​@@pleaseshutup7053 he meant after taking break during the pandemic

    • @thomas3146
      @thomas3146 Год назад

      @@pleaseshutup7053 lol no hez not

    • @JACQUEZJOHNSON23
      @JACQUEZJOHNSON23 Год назад

      ​@@pleaseshutup7053 he in the same position if u crazy u clearly didn't watch Roman these 3 years

  • @gaurav7142
    @gaurav7142 Год назад +64

    He was basically cena 2.0
    The tribal chief should've arrived after WrestleMania 33 itself!

    • @cmsjr2001
      @cmsjr2001 Год назад +2

      Nah, after royal rumble 2015

    • @no-yj2cf
      @no-yj2cf 10 месяцев назад +3

      He was too young for it to work

    • @dcpettis9573
      @dcpettis9573 10 месяцев назад

      @@no-yj2cfagreed the character really works the way it does now because he went through all that he did for better or worse

  • @ramelchilds7416
    @ramelchilds7416 Год назад +41

    Cancer, Covid and Character depth are why Roman got to where he is. The first two gave him time away from the audiences gaze like we'd seen for like 6-8 years. The last gave us the opportunity to see him completely differently because he ACTED differently.

    • @whopp1069
      @whopp1069 Год назад +2

      Nope the years he had as a face is why he has the skills to do what he does now without that he doesn’t become who he is . That’s why him turning heel sooner wouldn’t have done anytbing because he still didn’t know how to talk or have as good of character work but was still massively over. He was a top guy in the know fans just booed like they did cena but man don’t forget about the cheers which were massive just go look back. He need that’s grow into the guy he was Destined to full become. Covid wasn’t the reason it was the opportunity 😂😂😂 WWE perfectly booked him to become this amazing heel he is today. Vince knew it all along that’s why Roman is where he’s at.

  • @deepeyton
    @deepeyton Год назад +50

    This actually puts Seth’s recent issue into more perspective. He went back into the shield just for Roman just to not have a title reign for 4 years.

  • @TheCamSays
    @TheCamSays Год назад +58

    God, to see how far he’s come in six years. I’ve always wanted to like Roman. Always thought he could be that man, but management never knew what to do with him. Even if the Bloodline saga has ran long in the tooth, I feel glad that this is his legacy now and not the past six years. And all it took was a pandemic bubble period and a hiatus to do so.

    • @whopp1069
      @whopp1069 Год назад +1

      booked to perfection. He was massively over then with the younger audience he needed those years to grow into the tribal chief could be a better path when it’s all said and done his career is gonna go down as an all time great shield all the way till his career is over. People booed cena too. What WWE does is what happens and why we see Roman at the level he currently is . Gotta love it it’s what’s they do. Failure? Never. He was as selling out manias before tribal chief days go look back at his masterclass at 31. Love it. Nobody in the industry compares to a thing he is doing. This is why WWE continues to dominate this industry year in and year out they create the worlds only true stars in this industry. 😍

  • @everest7714
    @everest7714 Год назад +38

    I haven't watched and I know this is a cinematic masterpiece

  • @beezzus86
    @beezzus86 Год назад +60

    I’ve always said that the heat Roman got was more so directed at Vince and the booking than Roman. Yeah sure he got the brunt of it all but it was more because it seemed like Vince ran the shows with this “you’ll take this and you’ll like it” mentality. The material was nothing like what we loved (or loved to hate) growing up. Edge, Jericho, Brock, Big Show, JBL, Booker, Eddie, the list went on and on. There was no one guy. Even with super Cena, there was Edge, there was Randy, there was Triple H and Shawn. RVD and Jeff Hardy. But with Roman? Everybody had fall to him and there was no legit reason as to why aside because this is what Vince wants. Bray, Balor, Samoa Joe, didn’t matter who you were unless your name was Lesnar. Still find it so baffling that Reigns and Lesnar did something no other wrestler has done ever no matter how talented they are. And do you know how bad you gotta be at booking to get the crowd to cheer Baron Corbin over Reigns? Vince made every word Punk said about him and the company in that pipe bomb true. Worst part is, to this day it still reigns(see what I did there?) true. Just the sight of Vince at a show can ruin the entire production. That man showed his face once and we have not seen or heard from Bray Wyatt since. Now, there’s all this talk about injury and what not and him possibly returning but I think this is one hell of a coincidence and I think he don’t wanna come back but that’s just me.

  • @rdpruett88
    @rdpruett88 Год назад +38

    A prime example of no matter how great the talent is, if the creative team don't use it properly and carefully build up, it's gonna be a limping train wreck.

    • @whopp1069
      @whopp1069 Год назад +1

      He didn’t have the talent yet tho lmaoooo. He needed those years to groom into who he is now lmaooo. His entire career was booked to perfection. He don’t become this without that is what you guys don’t understand lmaoooo he was green. Even then he was MASSIVELY over he needed those years to grow into the tribal chief could be a better path when it’s all said and done his career is gonna go down as an all time great shield all the way till his career is over. People booed cena too. What WWE does is what happens and why we see Roman at the level he currently is . Gotta love it it’s what’s they do. Failure? Never. He was as selling out manias before tribal chief days go look back at his masterclass at 31. Love it. Nobody in the industry compares to a thing he is doing. This is why WWE continues to dominate this industry year in and year out they create the worlds only true stars in this industry. 😍

    • @zenvultra
      @zenvultra 6 месяцев назад

      @@whopp1069 lmaooooo

  • @WrestlingIsReal649
    @WrestlingIsReal649 Год назад +126

    He should have been the one to turn heel and break up the shield not Rollins🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @WrestlinGifs
      @WrestlinGifs  Год назад +121

      if they were smart and willing to play the long game. This would have been 100% the way to do it. Corporate Rock all over again
      Funny part is, they ended up playing the super long game with the dumbass method they went with🤣

    • @fallentrash1673
      @fallentrash1673 Год назад +17

      ​@@WrestlinGifs Literally him or Dean made sense. Dean would work if Shield was given a longer time to live and I never thought Seth would be the rat compared to Roman since he's Vince little project.

    • @andrelavandero3041
      @andrelavandero3041 Год назад +13

      Well, in 2015, Triple H mentioned (in kayfabe) that the Authority strongly considered utilizing Roman to break up the Shield instead of Seth. In other words, booking thought he was the better choice to build as a mega-heel.

    • @theitfactorjameswheezer2852
      @theitfactorjameswheezer2852 Год назад +12

      @@WrestlinGifs 🎉💯 also there was a brief pocket of time from tlc 2015 to royal rumble 2016 he was surprisingly Over

    • @elsassypineapple
      @elsassypineapple Год назад +13

      @@WrestlinGifs true, although I would say Seth benefited the most from it, as it gave him his own character and launched his heel turn. It also would make sense that the architect would be the one to know how to destroy the shield

  • @henrybair738
    @henrybair738 Год назад +22

    From the most hated hero, to the most loved villain.

  • @darrenrichards3100
    @darrenrichards3100 Год назад +129

    That's one of the reasons why I speculate he getting such a long run with the WWE title and universal titles as maybe this is to make up for the years they missed. Also because he's just that good 👍🏿

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Год назад +2

      It’s because Vince don’t like anyone else

    • @simplyfig3942
      @simplyfig3942 Год назад +1

      If he was that good he would be able to play a face and multiple story lines. At this point while his story line is good it’s just a one trick pony

    • @DaynNight1234
      @DaynNight1234 Год назад +2

      ​@@simplyfig3942 bro did not watch the entire video or WWE he can play a face he's shown he could before all the way at the beginning with the shield and a little bit after. It was 80% WWE that messed him up.

    • @simplyfig3942
      @simplyfig3942 Год назад

      @@DaynNight1234 what promos as a face did he give saying “this is my yard” doesn’t count or saying “believe that” the best promo he ever did was when he had cancer again. Look at dolph that man took a cheerleader gimmick and made it work Cody with stardust made it work no excuse

    • @SeraphSeph
      @SeraphSeph Год назад +4

      @@simplyfig3942 "Cody with stardust made it work"
      Cody wasn't at the top of the card and being pushed as the face of the wwe. No one who isn't an absolute fucking God on the mic can make "suffering succotash" work at the top of the card, especially since he was using it in a serious promo. He could only get over when him and Paul put their foot down and let Roman play the character he wanted to play.
      Your comment is like saying if the rock was that good he could have made Rocky malvia work. Some gimmicks are just dogshit.

  • @tonis7591
    @tonis7591 Год назад +17

    What has always "shocked" me was the difference between his face and heel promo at the beggining of his heel turn

  • @deandredukes95
    @deandredukes95 Год назад +33

    Failure is the key to success; each mistake teaches us something.

    • @whopp1069
      @whopp1069 Год назад

      Exactly. Nope the years he had as a face is why he has the skills to do what he does now without that he doesn’t become who he is . That’s why him turning heel sooner wouldn’t have done anytbing because he still didn’t know how to talk or have as good of character work but was still massively over. He was a top guy in the know fans just booed like they did cena but man don’t forget about the cheers which were massive just go look back. He need that’s grow into the guy he was Destined to full become. Covid wasn’t the reason it was the opportunity 😂😂😂 WWE perfectly booked him to become this amazing heel he is today. Vince knew it all along that’s why Roman is where he’s at.

    • @tonyatlas7777
      @tonyatlas7777 2 месяца назад

      Not for roman

  • @shivvaghela723
    @shivvaghela723 Год назад +30

    roman should have turned heel right after wm 33 🔥🔥

  • @richborn6700
    @richborn6700 Год назад +13

    You could tell Seth and Mox were never that happy with the two Shield reunions. Both broke out as singles stars but kept getting glued back to Roman so people would organically cheer for him

  • @Eduardo_2623
    @Eduardo_2623 Год назад +11

    Pav just wanted to keep saying the word buffoon😭🤣🤣

  • @acceptable1609
    @acceptable1609 Год назад +41

    I’m glad he’s finally found his footing in WWE and now has an interesting character. I was shocked when he came back at Summerslam 2020 and turned heel. He’s been doing great since and he definitely should’ve turned heel a lot sooner.

    • @whopp1069
      @whopp1069 Год назад

      Vince knew it . His entire career was booked to perfection. He don’t become this without that is what you guys don’t understand lmaoooo he was green. Even then he was MASSIVELY over he needed those years to grow into the tribal chief could be a better path when it’s all said and done his career is gonna go down as an all time great shield all the way till his career is over. People booed cena too. What WWE does is what happens and why we see Roman at the level he currently is . Gotta love it it’s what’s they do. Failure? Never. He was as selling out manias before tribal chief days go look back at his masterclass at 31. Love it. Nobody in the industry compares to a thing he is doing. This is why WWE continues to dominate this industry year in and year out they create the worlds only true stars in this industry. 😍 if he would’ve turned heel sooner it would’ve been shit.

    • @RayMoney97
      @RayMoney97 Год назад +2

      ​@@whopp1069What a mark you are

  • @a_ferns23
    @a_ferns23 Год назад +20

    I actually liked Roman in 2017 tbh, consistently solid feuds(KO and Braun especially) and matches along with slight tweaks in his character to the point where he was pretty much a tweener, leaned into the boos more and was more ruthless

  • @creatinjustin
    @creatinjustin Год назад +20

    “He was going to the top, before he or the fans were ready” well said 👏

  • @borderbunny1101
    @borderbunny1101 Год назад +102

    Kinda feel bad for him having to go through all that, wonder how he felt about it

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Год назад +19

      I’m sure it felt good when Vince handed him those checks

    • @terryprice1691
      @terryprice1691 Год назад +33

      @@pleaseshutup7053Money doesn’t mean everything sadly. You could still get depressed

    • @storm4x_
      @storm4x_ Год назад +10

      Deep down I know he wanted to be heel cause the face run wasn’t working

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Год назад +5

      @@terryprice1691 lol depressed from what people booing you. Roman wouldn’t be a successful wrestler if boos got him depressed tf man beat cancer but boos make you depressed not everyone is weak like you

    • @terryprice1691
      @terryprice1691 Год назад

      @@pleaseshutup7053 Oh watch out guys we got a badass over here lmao I bet you’re one of those mfs in real life that would flinch as soon as I would buck up to you get tf out of here bro 😭💀💀

  • @Xtsy_1989
    @Xtsy_1989 Год назад +68

    The roman Reigns between 2014-2020 can be described in 2 words.....
    "Suffering SUCCOTASH"

    • @Eastsid3
      @Eastsid3 Год назад +3

      😂

    • @whopp1069
      @whopp1069 Год назад +1

      Vince knew it . His entire career was booked to perfection. He don’t become this without that is what you guys don’t understand lmaoooo he was green. Even then he was MASSIVELY over he needed those years to grow into the tribal chief could be a better path when it’s all said and done his career is gonna go down as an all time great shield all the way till his career is over. People booed cena too. What WWE does is what happens and why we see Roman at the level he currently is . Gotta love it it’s what’s they do. Failure? Never. He was as selling out manias before tribal chief days go look back at his masterclass at 31. Love it. Nobody in the industry compares to a thing he is doing. This is why WWE continues to dominate this industry year in and year out they create the worlds only true stars in this industry. 😍

    • @dizzysoul6684
      @dizzysoul6684 4 месяца назад +1

      Won't say 2014 cuz he was over at that time, 2015 onwards for sure

  • @shyguyworks
    @shyguyworks Год назад +25

    Fantastic and compelling video mate, so well put.
    So glad Roman bounced back from all of this to becoming the franchise player he always was.

    • @whopp1069
      @whopp1069 Год назад +1

      Vince always knew it would be a bounce back that’s why he booked it perfect. And he was still over as a face. Just needed time to grow to his full potential and it’s what he did. Perfect booking

  • @VinnieDangerous
    @VinnieDangerous Год назад +15

    Its crazy to think it took a global epidemic to finally get this version of Roman

    • @whopp1069
      @whopp1069 Год назад

      No it didn’t it took all those years prior without it he doesn’t have the skills to pull it off.

  • @dumi2218
    @dumi2218 Год назад +1

    Glad to see a video from u.U posted rarely nowadays, but here for every clip from you.

  • @3820MD
    @3820MD Год назад +4

    Bruh! You got me dying over here with that "beating up an old man" comment 😂! I'm hollering bro 😭😭🤣🤣!

  • @robertwood8998
    @robertwood8998 Год назад +2

    Been waiting for this one 👏🏽

  • @jareomelovel500
    @jareomelovel500 Год назад +1

    Another amazing video pav I have been watching frkm the begining. You have to be one of if not the most consistant content creator on the platform. Not just a good wrestling youtuber but a great wrestling youtuber.

  • @edwardelric3082
    @edwardelric3082 Год назад +22

    And I literally thought that it was John Cena who was going to be the most hated wrestling still I do remember how bad it was for Roman Reigns

    • @V1ralB1ack
      @V1ralB1ack Год назад +4

      John Cena isn't really that hated. Cena is Cena.

    • @khathide22nd
      @khathide22nd Год назад +2

      At least Cena got over organically (as the Dr. of Thuganomics) and was charismatic so he could navigate the hate.

  • @mrnicemam8523
    @mrnicemam8523 Год назад +22

    The thing is looking back at this, I get why wwe pushed him fast because he was over with the shield and you know the quote "strike while the iron is hot". Look at what aew did with wardlow. They had their next big star right there after his MJF feud, but aew didn't want to push him yet and put the world title on him, so his momentum got lost. So looking back, I can understand why vince did it

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Год назад +1

      The shield was over not Roman

    • @mrnicemam8523
      @mrnicemam8523 Год назад

      @@pleaseshutup7053 yeah roman was a part of shield and hence he was over as well

    • @joejames1794
      @joejames1794 Год назад

      @@pleaseshutup7053lmfao

    • @mattc060793
      @mattc060793 Год назад

      @@pleaseshutup7053 Correct. Roman was always hand picked to be the guy. Mox (Ambrose) and Seth were there to make him look good. Luckily for them, the group as a unit got over because their styles meshed.

    • @theonlygoodonehere2259
      @theonlygoodonehere2259 Год назад +2

      @@mattc060793 not true, they gave dean us title runs, only title's roman won on the shield were tag team title's, what they tried to do was hide his lack of promo skills, bc dean and seth were much better at cutting promos at that time

  • @Amjad_ARA
    @Amjad_ARA Год назад +2

    Great vid pav! Keep it up

  • @johnnynguyen9240
    @johnnynguyen9240 Год назад +6

    Roman Reigns’ run between 2014-2020 was unfortunate because he was pushed at the worst possible time(s) and WWE gave him crap material that made him a goofball babyface rather than a naturally charismatic silent badass. Thank goodness they found the right formula and thus the Tribal Chief was finally unleashed.

  • @fightromeofight2352
    @fightromeofight2352 Год назад +14

    Honestly I was one the only few that didn't hate Roman back in the day. He wasn't my favorite by any means but I thought he was alright

    • @thetruej7872
      @thetruej7872 Год назад +4

      I did too. I only joined the bandwagon when Roman beat Undertaker.

    • @Dude4Realz12
      @Dude4Realz12 Год назад +1

      You honestly weren't in small minority. Regardless of his reactions, Roman was a heavy merch mover and you'd often hear the criticism of "Only women and kids like him"(which was always ridiculous acting like they don't count as real fans lmao or the worst version of "indian fans like Roman" type nonsense)
      Which is really remarkable considering how awfully miscast he was in that role. But he still had a sizable fanbase because many did like him and/saw his potential.

    • @Randomperson-zt3il
      @Randomperson-zt3il Год назад

      @@thetruej7872 same here mate, I cried in my bed after thinking Taker retired 😂

  • @heavenli444
    @heavenli444 Год назад +15

    i’m glad i never hated roman it was rough being a fan of him in those days…it’s getting semi rough again but it’s bearable

    • @jms7265
      @jms7265 Год назад +6

      Glad I always rooted for him too.

  • @princelevi3733
    @princelevi3733 6 месяцев назад +4

    I remember i slowly drifted away from watching wwe for a little while because of babyface roman.

  • @eddygm886
    @eddygm886 Год назад +7

    They tried way too much to get him over with that McMahon family rivalry from 2015-2016 and 2019

  • @nosympathy9756
    @nosympathy9756 Год назад +1

    One of the best wrestling creater I've ever listened to.

  • @kewanwilliams1620
    @kewanwilliams1620 Год назад +2

    Bro seriously this might be the best video you ever made no kap this shit shit was so true everything 💯

  • @lukewolffs9886
    @lukewolffs9886 Год назад +2

    ITS A GOOD DAY WHEN GIFS POST!!!!

  • @dbradandthem2727
    @dbradandthem2727 Год назад +9

    Alot of people were picking on Reigns. He ALWAYS delivered. He always was a great in ring story teller. It was Cool for the nerds to boo the cool guy. Imo, Roman was picked on by IWC..... Nothing he's doing now surprised me....

    • @acceptable1609
      @acceptable1609 Год назад

      It wasn’t just the IWC he would legitimately get booed out of the building constantly.

    • @dbradandthem2727
      @dbradandthem2727 Год назад +1

      @@acceptable1609 not true at all. I've been to shows.... House shows did not boo him like that.... It was the being on tv effect and it became extremely popular to boo, just to "be heard"...

    • @petersonofleo11
      @petersonofleo11 Год назад

      He always had it but the people hatwd that he was going to be another Super Cena but the Tribal Chief is easily one of the best WWE characters of all time.

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Год назад

      His promos were terrible tf you mean he always delivered

    • @dbradandthem2727
      @dbradandthem2727 Год назад

      @@pleaseshutup7053 see exactly what im talking about.... His promos were not all terrible

  • @malik_035
    @malik_035 Год назад +6

    Ngl, I was supporting roman during this time, and I can say besides his first run with the shield, I don't think I'd ever booed roman

  • @itsmeeeee4609
    @itsmeeeee4609 Год назад +12

    I didn’t hate Roman back then but I didn’t love him either but when he beat Undertaker and John Cena I couldn’t cheer for him anymore

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Год назад

      When Roman beat Kane’s record eliminating 12 men in the royal rumble that annoyed me

    • @theonlygoodonehere2259
      @theonlygoodonehere2259 Год назад

      @@pleaseshutup7053 records are meant to be broken though

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Год назад

      Should have given the record to the next monster not a wrestler you are trying to get over I remember for years Kane’s dominant performance was brought up. I don’t even know what royal rumble Roman did that at congratulations they just made it mean less

    • @theonlygoodonehere2259
      @theonlygoodonehere2259 Год назад

      @@pleaseshutup7053 it was 2014, the rumble batista won, many will remember it for 2 reasons, bc it would the first time someone has really booed a top main event star guy who won the rumble, and 2. it would one of the rare times roman was cheered and was hoped for winning the rumble, though I agree, roman shouldn't have ever had the record, I actually really do agree with the way you summed it up, use it to build the next beast guy, at least roman has 2 title's now as a way of respect, and held it for long

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Год назад

      @@theonlygoodonehere2259 wow no wonder why it’s pretty much forgotten he did it at one of the worst royal rumbles. That’s what made Kane’s performance so iconic it was at arguably the greatest royal rumble ever. Records don’t mean anything in wwe since it’s scripted what makes them mean something is the stories told with them. The story told with Roman is that he’s getting a super push. When wwe was consistently building new stars in the past it would take a year or 2 of fans begging for a push to finally push someone to the top now www pushes whoever they want sometimes the fan favorite gets punished for getting over

  • @rugalthreesixteen6812
    @rugalthreesixteen6812 Год назад +7

    I somehow think that deep inside that Tribal Chief is not Vince's Vision for Roman, I can almost tell that deep inside Vince still prefers The Big Dog Character.

    • @jordannewsom3606
      @jordannewsom3606 Год назад +1

      That's your perception

    • @venomkinghehe1487
      @venomkinghehe1487 Год назад +4

      That’s cause Vince viewed the big dog as his pet which he can make him do anything in his power

    • @cmsjr2001
      @cmsjr2001 Год назад +3

      Yeah, bc the tribal chief persona is closer to who Joe actually is in real life which is why he's over now

    • @rugalthreesixteen6812
      @rugalthreesixteen6812 Год назад +2

      @@cmsjr2001 True, i always think that tye Big Dog is really Vince McMahon, using Joe as his avatar and Roman Reigns as the user name in the past.
      I did not know though that Roman himself was getting sick of his old gimmick.

  • @krishnamagar5627
    @krishnamagar5627 Год назад +5

    I always believed that reign’s should’ve been the one to betray
    Shield not Rollins and join authority

    • @barrytheflashallen3941
      @barrytheflashallen3941 Год назад +2

      SAME!!! I am still surprised a little to less people think and say that.

    • @dizzysoul6684
      @dizzysoul6684 4 месяца назад

      Yeaa that would've been sick, a heel reigns from the start

  • @samueldunne7544
    @samueldunne7544 Год назад +1

    Excuse me but...
    Am I hearing staying alive by The Bee Gees in the background? If so I'm loving it!

  • @TheLadSteven
    @TheLadSteven Год назад +1

    Oh wow, 10mins ago. This is the earliest I've ever been.

  • @thecake6635
    @thecake6635 Год назад +2

    You forgot one little thing, *HERE COMES THE BIG DAWGGG*

  • @heavenmetal1
    @heavenmetal1 Год назад +1

    Amazing video

  • @jaywood1698
    @jaywood1698 Год назад +3

    Oh how I missed your videos bro. Thank You.

  • @YoungRandall
    @YoungRandall Год назад

    gotta go to bed for school but the boy pav uploaded, so I gotta stay up about 13 or 14 mins longer boys

  • @Ashhad1400
    @Ashhad1400 Год назад +4

    What the sucess of Roman reigns tells us is that WWE should offer more creative freedom to their wrestlers especially on the mic. That'll allow them to connect with audience better as due to heavy scripting most of stars fail to connect with the crowd as they don't feel genuine or authentic.

  • @mondli
    @mondli Год назад +3

    Hey Pav, I enjoyed this video because it hits me home while building my RUclips channel. Me aside. Roman's six years in limbo reminds me of Drew McIntyre's current situation in the WWE right now, since he was regarded as the Chosen One. Just like how Roman was pushed as a generic corporate babyface, in the same way as Drew McIntyre is purged in limbo. So this is a question for you, or anyone else reading this; how would you repackage Drew McIntyre? How would you book his new character to fulfill Vince McMahon's prophecy of Drew being the Chosen One?

  • @chillpenguin_yt
    @chillpenguin_yt Год назад +1

    Let’s gooo new vid

  • @Bindingofdead
    @Bindingofdead Год назад +8

    Lowkey could have worked as a face if he kept his silent assassin gimmick and they slowy pushed him

    • @BeastNationXIV
      @BeastNationXIV Год назад +1

      Hot take: That silent assassin role Roman was playing made him look a lot like Taker in '97-98. (to me, anyway) And that's what worked for Taker all those years. He'd cut some decent promos but most of his dialog was just one or two threatening lines, and the rest was just kicking ass. That's what I saw in those years of Roman as well during the shield. Not the same, but similar. And I definitely agree that the slow build would have been great. But Vince got his rapey, gropey hands on Roman's career and defiled it for 6 years. lol

    • @Bindingofdead
      @Bindingofdead Год назад +1

      @@BeastNationXIV this is a interesting take but I like it can definitely see the similarities. A shame that they over pushed him when if they waited maybe even for like a year or 2 they could have had there next great baby face

    • @dizzysoul6684
      @dizzysoul6684 4 месяца назад

      Fr

  • @nissreenalrashidy1874
    @nissreenalrashidy1874 Год назад +1

    Yoo pav, when night of champions ended I was waiting on the review video for days, and sadly there was nth.
    And I know its but plz make a video on it

  • @bryce999
    @bryce999 Год назад +4

    Should’ve turned heel night after mania when he beat Taker.

  • @jvonte07
    @jvonte07 Год назад +3

    As a day one Shield & RR fan I can appreciate this video of straight facts and seeing The Comeback after The Comeback. Bloodline storyline is one of the best ever in WWE

  • @DanteNDGamers
    @DanteNDGamers Год назад +43

    I actually didn’t hate or dislike Roman Reigns from 2014-2020. In fact, I loved it so much. He was just so fun to watch. I loved watching Roman every week when I was a kid. Idc what anyone says, Roman Reigns from 2014-2020 was great.

    • @hustler2001
      @hustler2001 Год назад +2

      ya , i mean i started watching wwe in 2015 and you won't believe , at that time i saw lot of great stars like Randy, Bray,Seth,Dean ,Jericho and all but when i for the first time saw Roman i couldnt resist to make him my leader of wwe , i dont know what other people say , also one more fact its a lie that all people used to boo him , no , that's not true i literally used to observe audience every single week and except a few thumbs down i used to see people cheering and infact that was kind of one of reason i kept on liking him .And i hope one day Big Dog will be back , very soon , may be 2024 summerslam or something.

    • @abdulahadkhan557
      @abdulahadkhan557 Год назад +1

      Exactly I loved him even than but that might be because I was Kid

    • @deadlytsg2792
      @deadlytsg2792 Год назад +2

      Yeah same

    • @jr5034
      @jr5034 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@hustler2001 WWE would often edit the boos out and replace them with cheers for the televised product, I didn't hate Roman Reigns, his run 2015 to 2017 was somewhat good, but even I have to admit, 2018 and 2019 were complete crap, he had pointless feuds with Corbin, Bryan, Joe, have Dog food smeared all over him, it wasn't a very nice period

    • @c6rooks
      @c6rooks 11 месяцев назад

      fr

  • @Drequan
    @Drequan Год назад +5

    this is a certified WrestlinGifs masterpiece

  • @symdollak9924
    @symdollak9924 Год назад

    The music on the background tho🔥🔥

  • @Jadesterification
    @Jadesterification Год назад +1

    “Couldve went back and stopped 911.” LMFAOO

  • @billyjilly4895
    @billyjilly4895 Год назад +1

    Yay new video

  • @BloodGriffan
    @BloodGriffan Год назад +6

    The worst part about the run was all the stat padding they did for him and the many of superstars momentums sacraficed to help build the Lesnar vs Reigns fued.

    • @BeastNationXIV
      @BeastNationXIV Год назад

      The Reigns-Lesnar feud is just cringe every single time. They need to put this one to rest and never open up that grave again. The last match they had was a decent one, but the whole feud was just terribly bad, and they all knew it...except for Vince who kept it going in spite of the fans because he knew his crew would say yes or get fired.

  • @walterdbrown
    @walterdbrown Год назад +6

    Perhaps on the same level of his cousin, him and Rock have the best character redesign/revivals of all time.

    • @jms7265
      @jms7265 Год назад +1

      Roman Reigns Look and presentation was already top Tier, he just needed fans to be on his side. He was gettin better and Better.

  • @lightjones9894
    @lightjones9894 Год назад +4

    Well sooner or later, you needed to address this thing about Roman Reigns.

  • @ij_talks
    @ij_talks Год назад +4

    I was like 8 years old when this whole Roman push started and I was to be like why the fans booing him but as I got older it made more and more sense glad that Roman is in a better position today than 7-8 years ago

  • @pirajacinto4
    @pirajacinto4 Год назад +1

    Holy shit. I never rhought of the Kevin Nash comparsion until now. You super nailed it on why people liked him then and how it failed.
    And it's true, we LOVED silent killer Roman Reigns. We never even talked together before and universally all understood the appeal.

  • @nelly6016
    @nelly6016 Год назад +3

    You know how embarrassing it was being a Roman reigns fan since 2014
    It was hell

  • @sparkshadowtigergaming5602
    @sparkshadowtigergaming5602 Год назад +4

    ITs funny how the same fans that booed Roman are now cheering him while the same fans that booed him were the same fans that litterally told me and several others to kill themselves just for dareing to like Roman....It really wasnt fair for us that wanted to like something

  • @comeatmebr0o
    @comeatmebr0o Год назад +3

    He’s so good NOW I acknowledge his pre pandemic work TODAY

  • @jagszillakotm9148
    @jagszillakotm9148 3 месяца назад +1

    They really should’ve brought the tribal chief gimmick after WM33 lowkey

  • @thisguyonyoutube948
    @thisguyonyoutube948 Год назад +8

    WWE has failed Roman Reigns more than anyone of this era and because of that, many others have suffered because of it. 😈

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Год назад +6

      Nah they failed Damian sandow. He legit got over twice with 2 different gimmicks but they made him a joke and punished him for some reason

    • @ITSHIM1294
      @ITSHIM1294 Год назад

      ⁠@@pleaseshutup70532 comedy gimmicks with a ceiling. A stunt double…

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Год назад

      @@ITSHIM1294 how was intellectual savior of the masses a comedy gimmick? It’s one of the best gimmicks of the last 10 years and wwe took it seriously until he cashed in mitb

    • @ITSHIM1294
      @ITSHIM1294 Год назад

      @@pleaseshutup7053 took it seriously for a midcard role. Were you really expecting more?

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Год назад

      @@ITSHIM1294 they gave him mitb are you dumb? That’s why it was a legit miss read again the gimmick got legit over better than expected then vince squashes because Batista was returning and he wanted to do Batista vs orton so there was no time for him to be champ they were unifying the titles. Vince was so dumb instead of doing Batista vs Brock lesnar and cena vs undertaker

  • @user-sf3ns6ed3g
    @user-sf3ns6ed3g Год назад +5

    Roman Reigns was the perfect guy to become the face of WWE following Cena. He had the look, the natural aura, he was great in the ring, had a more edgy look/presentation than the overly kid-friendly Cena and was improving at a fast rate. Then WWE decided to strip away everything that made Roman Reigns special, prevented him from finding his own identity after the shield and pushed him at the time everyone wanted to see Daniel Bryan win the rumble

    • @whopp1069
      @whopp1069 Год назад

      Nope the years he had as a face is why he has the skills to do what he does now without that he doesn’t become who he is . That’s why him turning heel sooner wouldn’t have done anytbing because he still didn’t know how to talk or have as good of character work but was still massively over. He was a top guy in the know fans just booed like they did cena but man don’t forget about the cheers which were massive just go look back. He need that’s grow into the guy he was Destined to full become. Covid wasn’t the reason it was the opportunity 😂😂😂 WWE perfectly booked him to become this amazing heel he is today. Vince knew it all along that’s why Roman is where he’s at.

    • @whopp1069
      @whopp1069 Год назад

      Your acting like that didn’t happen. It liter happened Vince knew all along

    • @user-sf3ns6ed3g
      @user-sf3ns6ed3g Год назад

      @@whopp1069 I highly doubt Vince intended Roman to be booed as a babyface. He wanted Roman to be the top babyface of the late 2010s but instead he was in an awkward position where he was built up as the best wrestler in the world while being reluctant to give him a title run longer than 2 months

  • @sameermysterio1092
    @sameermysterio1092 Месяц назад +1

    Make a Part 2 - How the WWE finally succeeded with Roman Reigns (2020-2024)

  • @juanoro-barcenas79495
    @juanoro-barcenas79495 Год назад +3

    My favorite runs from Roman Reigns were 2012-2013 Shield Reigns and 2020 to now Tribal Chief.

  • @gooddudemadworld4872
    @gooddudemadworld4872 Год назад +3

    Ever since I saw roman in the shield I knew he was gonna be the guy and I stuck with him

  • @lolacat4752
    @lolacat4752 Год назад +2

    FINALLY HES BACK

  • @Xtsy_1989
    @Xtsy_1989 Год назад +18

    The fact that Vince made him wear lenses just to make him look good is just down right sad

    • @Mega_Collosas
      @Mega_Collosas Год назад

      The same Vince who puts 2 belts on him

    • @Xtsy_1989
      @Xtsy_1989 Год назад +5

      @@Mega_Collosas this time, it was meant to be, he has every right to have 2 belts, he's literally THE guy in the buisness rn

    • @Mega_Collosas
      @Mega_Collosas Год назад

      @@Xtsy_1989 "the guy".. cuz they push no one else .....

    • @Xtsy_1989
      @Xtsy_1989 Год назад +4

      @@Mega_Collosas u must be livin' under a rock
      ..don't tell me u watched WWE during the pandemic and afterwards

    • @Mega_Collosas
      @Mega_Collosas Год назад

      @@Xtsy_1989 bro they push Roman hard and put no effort in others....who has main evented wrestlemania since 2015 in the males?besides Roman ,and party timers?

  • @e-o-o
    @e-o-o Год назад +4

    Kinda weird how quickly they realized the need for a heel turn with the rock and when how long it took for Roman. You’d expect the same company that built up someone of the same bloodline as Roman to realize it sooner (especially the rock to maybe bring it up after it happening to himself).

    • @whopp1069
      @whopp1069 Год назад

      Vince knew it . His entire career was booked to perfection. He don’t become this without that is what you guys don’t understand lmaoooo he was green. Even then he was MASSIVELY over he needed those years to grow into the tribal chief could be a better path when it’s all said and done his career is gonna go down as an all time great shield all the way till his career is over. People booed cena too. What WWE does is what happens and why we see Roman at the level he currently is . Gotta love it it’s what’s they do. Failure? Never. He was as selling out manias before tribal chief days go look back at his masterclass at 31. Love it. Nobody in the industry compares to a thing he is doing. This is why WWE continues to dominate this industry year in and year out they create the worlds only true stars in this industry. 😍 it was just perfect booking .

  • @futureufcchampion9293
    @futureufcchampion9293 Год назад +5

    💀😭I was too young and was Roman's biggest fan and then grew up and he turned heel so it's all good💀

  • @thebunnygod1605
    @thebunnygod1605 Год назад

    I have a idea could you make a video about the 2016 Royal rumble or 2017 Royal rumble was underrated because both of them deserve a lot attention

  • @night6724
    @night6724 Год назад +1

    Kinda funny you reference Diesel wearing a suit on Regis and Kathy Lee when that was Nash’s decision and he got major heat from McMahon for “breaking character” by not wearing his ring attire. WWF wrestlers wore their ring gear on talk shows. Even when Diesel went on in 1993 with Shawn Michaels he wore his ring gear

  • @grahammiller2271
    @grahammiller2271 Год назад

    His videos are actual Ws

  • @Danirai_
    @Danirai_ Год назад +1

    Man pulled a comeback of the century

  • @OmegaSamurai265
    @OmegaSamurai265 Год назад +3

    Roman has come a very long way!

  • @jmoney4708
    @jmoney4708 Год назад +2

    Finally somebody admits Roman wasn’t always loved

  • @ohshades2837
    @ohshades2837 Год назад +2

    Any chance we can get a noc reaction vid?

  • @SheanWalsh46
    @SheanWalsh46 2 месяца назад

    Honestly, Roman Reigns controversial rise to the main eventer status is going to be a great and interesting documentary in the future especially Dark Side Of The Ring.

  • @milesrushing
    @milesrushing Год назад +2

    Hey bro what were your thoughts on night of champions with jimmy turning on Roman?????

  • @Trejohnsmith
    @Trejohnsmith Год назад +2

    Ive been watching WWE religiously since 2009 I've seen the era of SuperCena at it height, Punks 434 day run, Rocks return in 2011 and 3 year WM stretch, Brock murdering people from 2013-2018, and the streak dying. But, nothing hurt my soul watching how Vince dropped the ball with Roman for 5 years. I remember loving the build for Roman & Brock in 2015 then you see the last image Vince gave us on the Go Home show for WM 31 and that's where they starting doing him dirty and it didn't help they tried pushing him during the peak hype for Daniel Bryan. I still say to this day Vince should've turned Roman heel in 2017; Roman in the closing moments of that match with Taker, combined with Taker "retiring", and the 10 minutes of boos the night after just for him to be a babyface....how does that make sense. I kinda knew the Corbin feud was what made Roman put his foot down because that when I was frustrated at Vince then 2020 happened and the rest is history for the better.

  • @dxer255
    @dxer255 Год назад +4

    I might be unpopular but I always liked Roman. Even in the very begginning of his solo career he showed that he has alot of potential. His very first match vs Brock was da best of them all. He had amazing feud against Aj Styles back in the day. He mainly got that not well deserved Cena/Superman type hate. Ofc he was loved by Vince but always had something special in him that finally erupted.

  • @novairahmed7411
    @novairahmed7411 Год назад +4

    Roman needs at least 3 to 5 more great years for us to forget about 2014-20. Then we can analyze his whole career about how great he really was. You can't call anyone the greatest or even one of the greatest for just good 3 years, especially when you have 6 shit years before that.