Sweet Sensation - Why Acoustic Energy's Dinky AE500 is Our Favourite Affordable Standmount Speaker!
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2024
- Here's something the guys have been saving for a rainy day. For several years now, David and Mike have really rated Acoustic Energy's AE500, but haven't got round to saying so because there have been too many other toys in the attic! But finally the time is right to celebrate this absolute honey of a cheap standmount speaker - it's a seriously musical design.
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My girlfriend just walked into my office and asked me why i'm watching two middle aged men holding white boxes 🙂
Yes, watch Hi-Fi Riff instead please. Mike
This video is a powerful reminder of the positive impact creators can have on society.
DAVID. Stop stroking the Musical fidelity tweeter 😅
I was cringing watching that 🤐
Right now Revel Performa 3 M106s are widely on sale for £999, reduced from £2300. I think if I had a grand and was looking for a stand mount I would be seriously considering them. They actually measure well, and sound great. A rare combination.
But I have a soft spot for AE and these look really nice.
Great review. As a Canadian Acoustic Energy dealer, I think you described them very well. My favourite at this price point.
why are they so expensive in Canada? $1050GBP =/= $2200 CAD !! More than twice in British pounds... while the exchange rate is only 1.7*GBP?
@gabrielbacca381 the Canadian retail is $1999, so that's not too bad at all. Importing is expensive. Take a look at North American brands and what they retail for in the UK and they'll be considerably higher than the straight exchange.
@@neilgelowitz4737 Correct. US brands in the UK are very expensive, in relative terms.
Even at the Canadian price, I'd say the AE500 still represents very good value.
@@neilgelowitz4737 I have an Exposure amp here in Toronto, and yes I am familiar with the increase. $2000CAD is not bad but as I said stores here in Ontario and Quebec are offering them at $2200. That's a bit much. Where are you located? Do you ship to Ontario/Toronto?
Great to see companies like AE and ProAc still offering uncanny sound from small enclosures. Reminds me of the early 90's Monitor Audio Monitor One. That looked too diminutive to even work but they were actually awesome, especially when part of a true high-end setup. I expect the AE500 will be much like that in terms of shock and value for money.
One of my favorite riffs because there are many talented designs in what I assume is very competitive range. Thank you!
Great review, thanks, I think one of the speakers probably need a new tweeter now.
Not heard these but heard a lot that cost around a thousand and my fav's are Dynaudio Emit 20's, they're terrific and can currently be had for around 600, tremendous value.
Keep up the good work.
Since the topic of the MF A1 ability to drive speakers was brought up again, let me tell you my experience after using it for a few months. I own both this and the 230 watts per channel choke regulated MF M6sPRX Class A/B power amp. I'm using them to drive my Proac D2R standmounts + 2 REL subs in a space significantly larger volume wise than your average British listening room with a listening position about 4m (12ft) from the speakers. The Proacs are about as sensitive as the AE500 maybe even a bit less but they should be a somewhat easier load impedance wise. What I can say is that for 90% of the material I listen to and for 95% of the volume levels I listen at (and I live in a detached house with the neighbours far enough), the A1 can drive the speakers as well as the big amp can. I would confidently recommend the A1 as being able to drive most any 2-way standmount in any standmount appropriate room unless one needs to party (especially when copious amounts of alcohol are involved), or one is a headbanger or wants to listen to one's Mahler at concert room levels.
Excellent real-world comment. Thank you. Mike
Have had the ae 500 for some years now and it's very impressive for such a small speaker to sound so large.. the other thing is they like being played with so good volume..only seem to get better.
Hey guys! This was really interesting! Great to see you talking about more affordable equipment! 🍌😍🍌
Totally engrossing riff again. Cheers chaps.
Nice looking speakers those. Thanks as always.
My new favorite channel. I've already been to ebay for Creek Audio and Linn Kans.
Excellent! Let us know how you get on!
I bought the A1 actives after watching your review of them while they were on a deal, fantastic speaker for the money and have no right to sound as good as they do for the money.
Totally agree. What do you use them with? Mike
@@Hi-FiRiff My intention was for a second system, but they are so good they are connected with my Naim 272 pre/streamer, fantastic system, the better the source the better the result they can reveal what's downstream well.
Great review
David, would you please let us know how much finger poking that tweeter dome can withstand before it deforms? I'm contemplating buying these for my 4 yr. old grandson.
Haha! It certainly looks that way on the video but the dome itself is quite recessed into the surround, so the tweeter emerged unscathed!
@@MrVinylista Good for it! Next one might not be so lucky.. I couldn't take my eyes from your hand..
This is getting strange , I'm an early adopter of the AE Coriniums predating the Riff review and now I discover that David owns the same Sony top loading X 3000 ES CD player that I owned for many years . David can I recommend the CEC TL5 belt drive CD Transport , it's stunning .
One recently sold for £500 on ebay... a veritable bargain! Mike
A cec or a X3000
And I ran the CEC TL5 with a Sugden Dac4 spooky @@Hi-FiRiff
my next speaker in walnut. saving up right now for Feb birthday!.
Good review and album recommendations into the bargain.
Its time again to listen to Llody Cole! Thanks!
Absolutely! Mike
what a coincidence! I am about to embark on a perilous journey to Nimes to audition them......
How did you get on? Did you get home safely?
I love AE speakers, but.........Microdisney and Scritti Politti in the same video?! That's musical heaven. Try Scritti's "Anomie and Bonhomie" from 1999 for another brilliant recording that will test those speakers to the max.
Absolutely!!!
Evening gents👍👍
Evening Kjbb :-)
Hope you like this one :-)
You might like to reflect on the fact that these loudspeakers in real terms cost the same as Realistic minimus 7s did in the late 1970s.
Also a pair of brand new LS3/5s were selling for £200 in Comet in the late 1970s.
I judge inflation not by official numbers, but by the cost of beer.
If you went into a GrandMet owned pub in the late 1970s, a pint of bitter cost 32p. All you have to do is divide today’s beer price in a pub by 32p to get the inflation factor.
Cost of beer is hugely influenced by taxation which is in itself influenced by prevailing social norms, so no it's not a good metric.
Excellent "Yard" stick (see what I did there?) Mike
Arf Arf... 🙂@@Hi-FiRiff
Dear viewer don't fondle or tweak your tweeters at home unless they are 'safe 'carbon fibre .
These or PMC Prodigy 1?
Very very nice review!
Stop stroking the tweeter !
I had these for a bit. They were better than some of the similarly priced rivals I've tried but lacked any real sparkle and didn't sound special in any way. And by sparkle I don't mean attention grabbing treble but they just lacked that ability to really draw you in to the music.
Had mine for just under a year (in white), on white SolidSteel stands and each connected to its own REL TZero mk 3. Stands make a big difference. Chose the 500s over their bigger brother 509s for better imaging. Try Dylan’s Man in a Long Black coat streamed in hires. Amazing. I use a Marantz 8006 amp, as my main love is classical, and the three tone controls help.
Hats off to Audio T for coming out to install it all.
Of course with the dual subs you can ‘get church organs’ out of it….😊
The REL is a cool sub - I have one myself :-) Mike (will try the Dylan track - thank you).
They are huge towards my neat ministra 😊
Love the Neats too! Mike
Great review. Definitely moved these toward the top of my next pair list. I’ll be replacing my 18 year old Epos M5’s with a new bookshelf pair in the next year or two. Very interested in the Fink Team’s new Epos ES7N too - any chance you’ll be getting them in for review?
I hope so!
Mike
PS am listening to a very nice pair of B&W bookshelf at the moment!
£500 to £1000 for a good bookshelf is a nightmare
Great review. But how do they compare to the AE1 Actives?
Million dollar question! I love the actives personally. An outstanding all in one package.
Mobile phone + Chord Mojo + AE1 Actives = massive bang for buck Hi-Fi. Mike
Nice shirt Dave 😂
Thanks. I do try to make an effort, sartorially.
When? Mike
How would the AE500'S compare to my Cambridge Aeromax 6's I wonder? Which model would you choose?
Great question. Not really comparing like for like. Both have their strengths. Aero 6 is still a fabulous cheap used bargain.
I own an original pressing vinyl of that Scritti Politti record. It should be in very good condition since I have always hated it so it was played about thrice. Are you interested in buying it? It will cost you though mainly because of the hassle of having to go into the garage and move lots of old furniture to reach my stash of vinyl.
Yes please. Mike
How are they for quiet listening? I live in an apartment and listen at modest volumes in a small room.
I use an Arcam Alpha 7 amp from the 90's.I lift the volume dial hardly off the zero and I get all the music.Excellent for quite listening.
With £1000 and in a decently damped 22ft x 12ft room with a powerful amp (listening position about 12 feet from speakers), would you go for these or the AE309?
Any thoughts about the soundstage?
I have these...soundstaging is excellent.
How would you compare them to the B&W 606s3? These definitely look better.
I'd say these are considerably better to the 606 S3. Indeed, they're closer to being rivals to the 707 S3, and I still prefer the AE. The 707 is brighter, more upfront but less refined.
@@MrVinylista B&W can be headache inducing...they have a very tizzy signature.I have the AE's...they are warm and lovely to listen to.
i could get 12-20 pairs of those minimus speakers for the price of those
Have you thought about what you would do with those 20 pairs?
@@razisn In a post nuclear holocaust world, those speakers would become a new form of currency, I am sure.
I tried the Microdisney track you recommended. Are you kidding me? It sucked!
Ah well, never mind. I get it's not for everyone. Mike
No, but keep the recommendations coming. I have liked a few of your earlier tips 🙂@@Hi-FiRiff
Where did the new video go? AKAI R2R?
I believe it was pulled owing to objections to Mike and Dave appearing in blackface, in an attempt to reflect the attitudes and preoccupations of the time.
@@robertleitch2016what, Seriously? Unusual for yt to act so quickly, it was only up a few hours if that, I never even had time to watch it.
I guess yt are still reeling after losing face to 'pianogate at St. Pancreas'.
Maybe they can upload it elsewhere so tye rest of us who understand a joke can watch it?
@robertleitch2016 Priceless!
We decided to get is serviced and do a proper Riff on it when it is working as it should be. Mike
Looking at the frequency response measurements, these speakers are not for me (and my tinnitus).
Give them a try.
I'm a T sufferer too and they still sound sublime.
I have the worst tinnitus...dozens of tones including insects.I have these speakers and they are not in any way causing any problems.Though I do prefer my Ruark Talisman 2's though...which are extremely warm and silky.I know your suffering.
@@michaelevans7015 Yes agreed.
more enjoyable than the ls50?
Yes...less sharp sounding.LS50 have metal in their drivers.Not good if you like relaxing beautiful sound.
So you could say you don't like them much then😊
Good Rift, but aren't we overdue something that both of you think is absolutely bobbins, and have to say so in a tactful and constructive way?
We should start reviewing David's car collection then. Mike
My girlfriend just walked into my office and asked me why i'm watching A TERRIBLE TOUPEE
Sorry about that. Must try harder.
Mike 😁
Cheap speaker at £1050? Ok, that is neither cheap nor budget.
They should say relatively inexpensive rather.I have these.paid half price because they were a couple of months used.Still had the plastic on the badges.Second hand and run in can be easier on the pocket.
@@spandel100 true yes