Witcher 3 - Should You Kill Gaetan or Spare Him? Where The Cat And Wolf Play
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2023
- Where the Cat and Wolf Play... Should Geralt kill Gaetan?
In this video, I try to show all of the evidence that we have about Gaetan's massacre at Honorton and also give my opinion on whether or not he should die as a result.
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Thanks for watching! What do YOU think Gaetan's fate should be? Also, I realize saying Gaetan shows remorse for his actions might be a bit controversial. To me, it felt like he knew what he did was wrong. My interpretation is that he thinks losing his temper like he did was justified but the actions were still wrong and not optimal. Anyways, I thought it was worth clarifying because I don't think Gaetan shows remorse completely.
I didn’t spare for the same reasons you mentioned. He doesn’t seem sincere. He killed women and children and just shrugs it off as he just lost it. Had he just killed the men who did him wrong then I would he left him. Cool video and debate. I know it’s a video game but it’s just so good 🎉
the problem is that if you think they would've let him go had he spared the rest then you're naive.
@@enexe6229You think the survivors would be able to stop him? He was stabbed in the back with a pitchfork. Badly wounded he slaughtered the whole village. He went out of his way to kill everyone instead of escaping.
@@wesfoster1178 bounty hounters would've found him way faster if he had spared the rest. also the survivors could've just reported him to the nilfgaardians, baron people etc.
@@enexe6229 That doesn't matter. He killed the innocent along with the guilty. There's zero excuse for what he did. I've killed him in every playthrough because he deserves it.
Unfortunately I went with killing him. It is understandable to say he lost his temper to the contractors and literally got stabbed in the back only because he was coming for his payment for killing the leshen for them. But he messed up by killing those villagers who weren’t aware of it. Yes he spared the girl but only because she reminded him of his sister - but what if it wasn’t? Would he still kill a child just because his temper got out of control. Plus, personally, I don’t think he sees the full scale of the massacre he committed since he does not say anything about what he’ll do to be better and it’s like ‘yes I killed them, my bad🤬’ showing no remorse. Geralt manages to compose himself when he gets cheated and just says ‘I’ll come back for my payment’ and does not threaten contractors unlike Gaetan stating ‘you wished the leshen was alive again.’
Since Gaetan didn’t say anything on what he’ll do to control his temper, he would most likely commit a massacre like that again, or worse, kill someone he shouldn’t which will lead to hunt the rest of the Witchers and start an additional war. Some Witcher would need to take the blame instead of Gaetan and get killed as we saw with the girl who thought Geralt was Gaetan, and as a result reduce the number of living Witchers killed by other people who may be soldiers.
Either way, those are my reasons even though Gaetan had those reasons to kill but he ruined his redeemable qualities after killing those other villagers who had no idea of this and led to the girl’s family members to get murdered. I don’t usually choose kill in the Witcher but Gaetan’s actions were different.
Well, I agree with a lot that you said. I guess what I was trying to say was : If gatean ends up saving more people than he kills (by killing monsters), maybe it's better for him to live even if he deserves to die. I'll admit that I didn't really think about the consequences it might have on other witchers, at least not to the extent that you mentioned, like a witcher hunt to kill every witchers, but it could happen. It makes the decision for me even more complex haha! I definitely get why you killed him though
@@muskeys
"If gatean ends up saving more people than he kills (by killing monsters), maybe it's better for him to live even if he deserves to die"
That could be true, if the Game dialogue didn't basically confirm that this wasn't the first time he went on a slaughter spree because he lost his cool.
At that point you really gotta ask yourself how often this happened already, because if this happened somewhat frequent there is a good chance he killed more innocents than every Monster he hunted combined.
That are my same reasons why I kill him each time I play this Quest
i did this quest after the contract in which the villagers reject to pay full price because it's not a dragon, i spared him because i would slay the whole village if i can
Wow great video. I thought that it was a simple decision but you showed me several more layers
Thanks! I am happy to hear that!
This quest is so good and it lets you make the final decision without having an obvious bias either way. Some other great quests have hidden outcomes because of your choices, which is fine, but this quest is different in the way it gives you a clear scenario and doesnt have hints towards which choice is morally good or bad. The problem I have with some "choice games" is that its usually obvious which direction the devs want you to take to get a certain ending, but this quest not only doesnt have that, it also doesnt have some cutscene after the fact, praising you or berating you for your choice. Its perfectly happy to leave it ambiguous, just as it would be for Geralt as he continues his journey.
I personally killed the cat because his actions couldnt be justified to me. Massacring an entire village of people, people who were not involved in the murder attempt and who were obviously no threat and no match for a Witcher, stabbing women in the back and leaving them to bleed to death paralysed and only sparing the young girl for no reason other than because she reminded you of your sister. Losing your temper is no excuse because you are responsible for how you act and controlling yourself, especially when you are that dangerous.
To be fair to him, I gave him a chance to have an even fight and allowed him to "drink his swallow" to give him a fair shot at saving himself. But when he cheats and stuns you it just proves his character. Kills the weak and innocent and fights dirty against those who are a fair match.
The fight was also really fun because you are stunned the whole time so striking is harder and you cant use any potions during the fight. Such a unique quest.
Attacking a injured guy...even with his potion he is injured and at disadvantage. But getting stunned is evil...
He's made a mutant without his consent when still a child and then made of mockery of what he was turned into, then was tried to kill when risking his own life for those who mocked him, how can there a doubt regarding this?
Sometimes heads just roll....
This was the dumbest lines in the entire game series. Geralt doesn’t slaughter blavikan. He only kills the 7 dwarfs of Snow White…sorry sorry Renfri. He doesn’t slaughter an entire village.
It should have been something else like…”the day I joined the path…there was a cart and it’s passengers” or something. Whatever that story was where Geralt got called a freak despite rescuing a girl and taking out her pimp or something.”
dam rite
Cool insight, 😎 thx.
I let him live because I thought that he could go to Kaen Mohen, also Lambert had a friend of the School of the cat, but no... He just go away.
Nice side mission thou.
I personally always let him live except its less about whether he deserved it and more a mix of the punishment and who's delivering it.
Gaeten did inexcusable things but I think a different punishment would be better off than killing him just because he killed others (if only the game gave that option). For me, that seems to be creating a cycle that doesn't really solve much. But more importantly I don't think Geralt is the right person to make this choice and I believe he wouldn't want to either. This quickly became a job that he didn't sign up for, he was there to take care of a leshen problem not decide someone's fate. Plus executing an intelligent creature (also without consulting any of the victims families/anyone else involved) sort of contradicts a lot of his beliefs in both the books and games.
I could be wrong, this is only my interpetation after all, but killing Gaeten just doesn't feel like the right choice in terms of how things would play out with Geralt being forced into making the choice. So yeah wanting to stay character accurate has basically outweighed my moral debates.
You're kind of on the right track with how Geralt would handle this, but not quite. Geralt specifically does not kill intelligent creatures that do not harm others, but Gaetan is clearly an incredibly dangerous person. He often says that he doesn't involve himself in these kinds of matters, things that aren't his problem, because he gets nothing in return. He also contradicts himself all the time here with his actions. Geralt just isn't able to stand by while that severe an injustice is taking place, at least not one that he has the power to intervene in. In I believe the third book, he goes out of his way to slaughter a group of marauders that are torching a homestead and who are about to assault the woman living there. Hell, in the final book, in his last chapters, he bitterly tells Dandelion that he's done, ABSOLUTELY done with helping people, because it costs him so much. And yet, he dies doing exactly that, defending people being killed en masse by a mob, because thats who he is. Gaetan is a monster, in all senses of the word, and Geralt would not let that slide, in my opinion. That's why Geralt is such a good character though, right? He's conflicted and complex, with lofty ideas about morality and action, and it makes discussions around these choices possible.
@@autumnve geralt didnt kill Brehen end of story
@@averagestraightwhitemale6776but Geralt Killed Renfri ?
@@El-Azouny98 the thing is renfri 1 wanted to kill his friend 2 wanted and didn't yet kill the village and 3 wasn't a Witcher
@@El-Azouny98 also renfri wasn't alone but she was the head of a band of criminals
Another thing to note the school of Cat witchers are also known for being emotionally unstable feeling more then the average human and other witchers due to their mutations during the trail grasses the school of cat conducted. If he did drink a potion, add that on top of already being upset then stabbed. No wonder the poor guy lost his shit. My fiance killed him, but I think when I play, I'm going to spare him because I understand. Given the situation, it's not his fault, he lost his temper because he's not able to control his emotions already on top of drinking witcher potions. Yes, what he did was wrong I'm not saying that he is innocent, he's not, he's far from it. There was some innocent bystanders, but he at least spared the girl.
And many a Witcher has been killed by pitchfork. Also the alderman could have totally paid him. He was really well off.
On my first playthrough I killed him, but on my second playthrough I decided to spare him because I think that killing a fellow witcher is counter intuitive, as doing so will allow more humans to be killed by other monsters and it was also the peoples fault so therefore I would probably spare him and even offer him a choice to go to Kaer Morhen if possible?
fantastic video ps can you make a video on werewolf
Thank you! What kind of video about werewolves would you like to see?
@@muskeys like how are they made hey they behave but most importantly who would win werewolf vs vampire obviously not true higher vampire but lesser higher and lesser vampire
A small village in middle of nowhere...even the girl know what the elders are doing...gaetan is not guilty
I never kill him
I dont like killing fellow witchers and i think that his actions were yes brutal but understandable especially if you are a fellow witcher like Geralt
I had no issue sparing him. The people who hired him not only tried to cheat him, but they wanted to kill him rather than pay him for services rendered. Once the "blood rage" started, all bets were off. The little girl was lucky she reminded him of his sister because that's what snapped him out of it.
Not everyone tried to kill him tho, he killed innocent people too and he couldn't control his anger that's the problem
do u even follow the story/witcher sense quote when you play the quest? the only ppl that cheat him maybe the elder and 2-4 ppl that follow the elder to the barn, lots other woman, innocent ppl dont know the thing and killed in their own house from the back, and clearly no sign of resisting, a village is killed in cold blood.
@@Michiho. - True, but consider that the village was okay with not only cheating him of the pay agreed to, but for allowing him to be killed rather than pay him what he was owed. If you know your brother is going to kill someone to avoid repaying a debt, are you not equally guilty if you stand by and do nothing? Also add that the populace rose up and overthrew the Witcher schools…killing most all the Witchers who were in the world. The only ones who survived were on the path when it happened.
@@qdllc bruh, youre more blind to the story it seems, and that village have nothing to do with overthrew the witcher shcool lmao, your brain is sick, 90% of the villager dont know anything happening exactly, theyre in their own house doing theyre thing, the elder and the witcher talking about his payment in the elder room, and when the witcher dont accept that little pay, the elder lie to him telling the witcher to follow him to the barn behind (followed by the other 2-3 guy). how would other villager know what exactly happen? dont u even hear what geralt say when he use his witcher sense? a woman that stab from behind near her bed, a woman who stab from behind while the stove still cooking something (meaning theyre minding their own job while this shit happen) and dont know anything
Its like this, you (@qdllc) minding n busy with your job in your own house, and at that time, theres a bullying happen in your neighbourhood, you, your family and most of your neighbour dont know about this bullying that happen outside, the bullied victim go back to his house and return with his dad gun, killing all the bullies, and in rage also killed all the terrified neighbour including your family, your kid n wife also get bloody murdered. And a police that happen to pass that area saw and say, hey, I had no issue sparing him, its this neighbourhood karma for not doing nothing about the bullying (while ofc the neighbour and your family mostly dont know about what exactly happen at the time)
@@qdllcDid they know... A lady in her home may or may not have known the nefarious schemes of the village elder. He's a loose cannon that needs put down or the Witcher name will continue to fall!!! LOL
Dude is Saul Goodman coded in this video
I could never kill him, he reminds me of Lambert and Letho, and honestly, it’s unfortunate about the innocents, but the alderman and his boys certainly had it coming and Gaetan may have killed a whole village like the bandits in the town on the east part of the map, but he kills monsters and he’s clearly still of the belief that it’s his job to protect humans. If they tried to pay him less money than it costed to replenish the potions he needed to help them, that means he isn’t getting any money for food, and who knows what his potion stores are looking like right now. They broke their promise and he’s trying to survive while being completely isolated and running from a bounty. If I could’ve, I would’ve invited him to Kaer Morhen
I really love how you justify slaughtering an entire Village of essentially innocent people (Children among them) because 3 dudes tried to jump him.
Your reasoning gets even funnier when you take into account that the Conversation with Geralt basically confirms this isn't even the first time he slaughtered innocents because he lost his cool. Meaning he probably killed more people than the Monsters he hunted.
@@CedricBassman I like how you justify trying to Cheat & kill a guy you hired that actually got rid of your monster problem over like 12 crown…maybe don’t do shit like that and he won’t kill you?
@@Jijiweepee
3 people tried to Jump him, so naturally you kill the entire Village literally breaking into peoples homes and murder them while they're making dinner.
Great reasoning there, Dahmer.
@@Jijiweepee They're poor peasants, they likely hardly have anything more then 12 crowns & he still threatened them. What were they to do, sit around and let a monster kill them cause a Witchers cost was too needy?
@@SadMoribund I like how you left out the part where Geralt while investigating "Somebody's well off, especially for velen". Further into the investigation, Geralt examines the elder's body and commented "Plump Cheeks, Important man" likely meant that he had connections AND wealth...They were'nt poor, they were cheapskates.
Yall dont know that the cat school of witchers have a different type of mutagens that make them more aggressive? Also, he snapped for good reasons, but he decided to kill innocents that had nothing to do with it . Shows no remorse and had done this before . Gettting accustomed or being content to kill innocence. Not in my book. Just doesn't sit right with me . He has to die .
Geralt also shows no remorse when killing innocents? does he also deserve death?
and he obviously hasnt done this before
Whether he deserves to die or not it's not up to geralt to decide that, I don't see book geralt or game geralt making that decision on his own
That's very fair. I have read 3 books so far (they are amazing) and I can't wait to learn more about Geralt in the remaining 5!
@@muskeys Audiobooks or paper?
@@zgmfx-09a Paper. I have heard good things about the audiobooks though.
@@muskeys Yeah I went through both and I just gotta say the audiobook geralt is my canon voice from now on
Just imagine lost all your friends and School, risk your life for a contract, then they don't want to pay you and later they try to kill for stupid money.
I also will be angry if that happens me.
What graphics setting are you using? What are your pc specs?
I usually play on Mid/High graphics, never ultra. My pc is 16gb RAM, 3060 Ti gpu and i5-12400F cpu. If you want more specific info, feel free to ask.
Further tarnish the reputation of witchers? 😂😂😂 I don't think that's possible " crawl back under your rock" " you'll choke to death on three pounds of steal" Its hard enough just making a living but everyone hates your guts and wants your dead unless you can kill a monster, then they not only try to cheat you but stab your with a pitchfork in a unsuccessful attempt at premediated murder. You can be sure Geralt though of whacking plenty of villagers and soldiers too, and who to say that he hasn't. Thats why I let him go.
I killed him my first play through because I didn’t understand the lore. Second time I spared him because people suck in real life as much as they do in Velen.
Didnt Geralt lose his temper at Blaviken? Hence, the Butcher of Blaviken? And as far as we know that was the only time Gaetan has done something like this. But I spared him just because Geralt has done something simmilar and understood him. Nice video otherwise, exited for more like theese.
Well, the people Geralt killed in Blaviken were all with Renfri and were helping her do something Geralt didn't agree with.. (Kill Stregobor instead of leaving the town) Geralt did not harm the people of Blaviken. Only Renfri's crew. In Honorton with Gaetan, there is no evidence that the other villagers had anything to do with what was going on. It might seem like a slight difference, but I think it's a significant one. And thanks for watching, I'm happy you enjoyed!
It wasn't the only time he did it, if you go through all the speech options, it is mentioned that he had done it before
@@marcopais3578 he implies it
It’s an easy decision. He lives. Always.
The quest is perfect. The moral shift is fantastic since at first, you’re all in on killing him but then when you think that the elder was definitely well off and only wanted to pay him 12 crowns and then opted to kill him when forced to pay him more. The thing that guaranteed I spared him was he didn’t kill the little girl.
I agree it's an easy decision, but I disagree about him living.
Gaetan decimated an entire village except the girl, only because she reminded him of his sister. What if the girl didn't remind him of his sister, what then? Also, what about the rest of the villagers?
Sure the elder and those assisting the elder to get rid of him had to perish as it was self defense at that point, but Gaetan didn't just "lose" his temper as he claims. He let his rage take control and became the very thing Witchers are stereotyped to be; ruthless, sadistic and monstrous beings in human form.
People who let Gaetan go may refer to the dialogue option where Geralt explains his sympathy as he lets Gaetan bugger off but Geralt never actually annihilated the entirety of Blaviken, only Renfri's goons.
I just can't understand the mindset that the awful deeds of the alderman and people with him morally justify the brutal murders of a village going about their business, having nothing to do with what happened. No remorse, it's implied this isn't the first time it's happened, and it won't be the last. Every witcher gets stiffed, but other witchers are not capable of what gaetan did. Geralt just cant let this guy walk, not with a pile of innocent corpses a couple feet away
I strongly disagree with you. Killing the ealdorman and the few who attacked him would have been understandable, but slaughtering innocent villagers, including women and a dog, is completely unacceptable. And to top it off, he spared a child only because she reminded him of his sister? That is beyond cruel.
What if that little girl didn't remind him of anyone?!
He had the chance to spare himself from my sword, but he made the wrong choice.
He did not make good use of his chance of escaping my sword
Especially when he said that this was not his first time losing his temper.
There was no moral shift. After the conversation it was clear that it wasn't his first time flying off the handle. It was an easy choice, no moral ambiguity.
Besides you do know that he knows Lambert right
free my boy he aint do wrong
i couldnt judge him, humans are worse than monsters sometimes.
So if your dad cheated someone it’s fine if that person he cheated kills you too 🤡🤡🤡
@@Pushiii736thats a wrong comparison
I want to spare him so bad but he implies that this has happened before. He also said the reason he didn't kill the child was because she reminded him of his sister. If she didn't then he would have killed her & the fact that he implies it has happened before makes me think that he murdered children in the past.
It's more of a common thing for Witchers to not get paid especially the later in the timeline from thier creation you are., at least I never took it to be himself specifically, as Geralt himself has been in that same situation before.
Garalt would understand he is the butcher of blavakin after all and sure about to slaghter a few more soon enough
I spare him every time.
there is no way book gerald would let this guy live.
Always thought the same
there is no way book geralt would kill this guy*
i spared him, felt right
Why gaetan not use axii
well the whole village was definetly into trying to scam him. he even says that he spoke to them (the whole village) and after he told them (the whole village) that he grew tired of their gaslighting attempts their ealdorman appeared and spoke to gaetan and lured him into the barn... considering that his dead body stays in the barn it's safe to say that gaetan speaks the truth. basically if you think those lying bastards would've let him get away with killing their ealdorman if he had spared them then you're naive. in skellige geralt spares the whole village after killing 2 of its men and then they throw him in jail. if it werent for the plot armor geralt would die in that jail.
The dialog I achieved was so cool. Gerald admitted to being no stranger to perceived senseless violence and that he understood that sometimes heads roll during their undertakings. He says "they call me the butcher of blavekin and for good reason" while handing the medallion back.
Which is ironic because the Blaviken incident and this one have literally zero in common. Geralt saved the Townfolk of Blaviken, but to them it looked like he went on a killing spree, because Geralt acted on Information he had and that later couldn't be confirmed, because he killed everyone who could. But the people he killed that day were not innocent, in fact they were about to round up the Townfolk and kill them one by one.
This Guy actually did slaughter innocent people.
Yep, in my opinion Geralt would never compare both events. After all, he is in his own skin and he knows damn well why he had to kill so many people in Blaviken. It's nice fan service to bring back the memory of such an event but it doesn't really make any sense for Geralt to say that in that context.
If he had just killed those that attacked fair enough but he didn't he wiped out the villagers so sorry clear cut decision he needed to be stopped
The life of a witch is really bad. I sympathize with him. What he said was due to loss of control. I felt it was true because after he calmed down, he forgave the girl. And he also knows about the confessional memorial circle. .It's strange that after forgiving him, I received the place where he kept his treasure. Did he plunder so much that he had so much wealth? I hate quests like this
I kill him every single playthrough. The village elder and cronies have nothing to do with the other innocent villagers. No proof that that the rest of villagers were involved. Seems unlikely as well. Add in the fact he killed women and children in their homes? No dice.
It’s clear that Gaeten has temper issues and mentally fragile(probably from his years on the hunt and being frowned upon and ostracized). If he would have stopped at the Elder and his cronies, I’d have spared him. Being a Witcher and a part of a dwindling group of people in that profession doesn’t excuse it for me. There’s also the possibility he’s done this before and if that’s the case? I have to put him down. Enjoyed the video and find it interesting how everyone interprets things differently.
Absolutely! It has been a lot of fun for me to see all of the comments and everyone's thought process. It's a controversial topic for sure. It leads to interesting discussions. But yeah, I agree with a lot of what you said. Your decision makes a lot of sense, especially with the points that you brought up. Anyways, I'm happy that you enjoyed the video!
there is proof. he said that he spoke to all the villagers and they refused to pay him so he intimidated them and then they were schoked and then their ealdorman appeared and lured him into their barn. considering that their ealdorman's corpse remains in the barn it's safe to say that he speaks the truth. also it wasn't about his anger/temper issues. he got stabbed in the back. that was the main problem. basically if you think those lying bastards would've let him go if he had spared them then you're naive.
@@enexe6229 lol, this is incredibly incorrect and factually wrong. Naivety is your forte it would seem.
@@canadian0099 nah i'm just saying how it really is and according to your hollow statement you're wrong because you have no arguments. also in skellige geralt spares the rest of the village after he kills 2 of its guys and then the rest of them has him thrown in jail. if it weren't for the plot armor geralt would rot in there for the rest of his life.
@@enexe6229 lol sure bud. Keep thinking that. Muppet 🤣
I hear a lot of arguments in favor of sparing gaetan like:
-'but he is a witcher and witchers are rare'
-'but the villagers cheated on him'
-'but gaetan did kill monsters to save peoples lives'
The thing is sparing him would only make sense if gaetan had only killed the people inside the barn, but no he simply had to go all the way to every house which are more than a few meters apart to slaughter every inhabitant and if there was not a little girl that has the looks of his sister, than yeah he is in high risk in killing children as well. So no Gaetan needs to be put down, the risks are simply too great in my book.
I completely agree with you
yeah and then thosr spared peiple wouldve tried to avenge their leader had he spared them. dont be so naive. one of the women literally cooked some food inside the leaders house.
I would’ve let him live without hesitation if he simply killed the people trying to him but the women… also the little girl is that the only child in that village I highly doubt it his definitely guilty he wouldn’t even beat this in the modern Court system his a murderer simple as that
He lives for me.
as they always say in Velen, "A word once given, cannot be broken."
I spared him Withcer is the butcher of Blaviken for a reason
Geralt is knows as the butcher of blaviken, so geralt choosing who is worthy of dying due to a massacre isnt really morally justified
He was known as the Butcher of Blaviken because he murdered Renfri and her crew who were prepared to massacre a whole village to draw out one of her enemies. Long story short, he murdered a crew of bandits to stop them from killing all the innocents of a village just to get to one man......tell me what about that sounds remotely similar to what Gaeten did?
@@michaeloniha5005 Difference is that Geralt went into town to kill dozens of people while Gaeten acted in self defense
I think this is what happen.
1. gaetan come to the village for a contract
2. the elder and gaetan agreed for a certain price
3. gaetan kill the beast (very high chance wounded in the process)
4. gaetan comeback and ask the reward
5. gaetan see this elder have a nice room, probably have much wealth for himself, so gaetan ask for more
6. this shocked the elder, and probably make the elder angry, so they ended up yell and curse at each other
7. gaetan (probably wounded) tell the elder that he will wait in the barn for more crown he ask, gaetan also needed time and place to heal his wound
8. while gaetan in the barn, the elder and a few man think they can take on a wounded witcher, thinking it would not be to much of a hassle because of the wound
9. the elder came to the barn with a few man, but no, they cant kill the wounded witcher, instead, what they are doing is only enraging the wounded witcher
10. blinded by his rage, gaetan kill all the villager, all, except this one girl, who reminded him of his little sister
11. not long after, geralt came this this village
can't seem to find any proof that witcher potions make witcher more irritable but a good vid nonetheless
Thank you! I know it is supposed to be mentioned in the books at some point. I'm currently in the process of reading them and I don't think I have read anything about it yet, but according to people online, it's supposed to be in there. It's also shown in the Netflix show, which I don't give too much importance to cuz it's Netflix.. But it's definitely there as well. I don't remember seeing anything about it in the games tho, so it's probably not meant to be a huge deciding factor for the quest.
@@muskeys didn't know that im only at the 4th book ty tho
Geralt goes into a murderous rage surprisingly often in the books. F.e. when fighting Shirru in ToS, or the raiders next to the huts struck by plague in BoF.
It's ridiculous how people believe this to be a difficult decision.
After killing the peasants who tried to murder him, he went out of his way to murder unarmed men and women. You don't accidentally go into the other huts and slaughter unarmed men and women who are trying to hide from you. Losing control is not an excuse, if you slaughter people while under the influence of drugs or while having a psychotic breakdown you still go to jail or an institution for life in the modern world. Letting him go free is a ludicrous choice and the only other choice in the game is killing him, so that's what has to happen.
I guess my take is that if he still saves more people than he kills, it kinda means he might do more good than evil.. For example, if Gaetan kills 10 innocents but he also kills 3 monsters.. Let's say the 3 monsters would've killed 15 innocents.. In total him being alive pretty much saves 5 lives.. That's the only argument I think to keep him alive but morally he deserves to die for sure. The fact that he is a Witcher and Witchers a rarer and rarer gives the whole quest a bit more meaning in my opinion.
I guess you could make the argument that he potentially saves more lives by being left alive, but that logic would create weird implications. Imagine if we found out that a heart surgeon was a serial killer who kills once every year. Sure he saves hundreds of lives if we just don't lock him up, but somehow I think a judge (and people generally) might not take well to this kind of argument :D
Honestly I always kill him only reason it comes off as a “tough decision” is bc he’s a Witcher if this was some random guy who lets just say was a great fighter and could beat monsters but wasn’t a Witcher everyone would just kill him it’s just hard to kill a Witcher bc we play as geralt and witchers are more and more rare as time goes on
Imo Gaetan was just a rabid dog tthat was needed to be put down.
He lost his temper because he got cheated, very badly, but to slaughtered a WHOLE VILLAGE but one little girl that probably only lives because she reminded him of his sister... Sure, being a Witcher isn't easy, and we through Geralt surely know this, but if we spare him there is not indication that this won't happen again, specially with the dialogue presented to us and how he doesn't seem to show any remorse, so to me, he's just a monster at that point, and as a Witcher we have but one job to do...
Yeah, if you think that Gaetan is likely to loose his temper like that often, it seems to be the only correct answer.
geralt didnt kill Brehen end of story
he lost his temper because they fucking stabbed him in the back with a pitchfork.
I killed him
He killed so many innocent people that his response was overkill. And when pressed by Geralt, he admits it isnt the first time either. For those reasons, I had zero second thoughts about killing him.
That's fair. My only question is : Does he actually admit it? All I remember is that he refused to give a proper answer when Geralt questioned him about it.. It's fair to assume that it might mean he has done it before but I think that it is still up for debate. What do you think?
@@muskeys I am pretty sure he agrees it wasn't his first time. And even if he didn't, he most definitely did not deny it was his first time. Geralt is a witcher so if he had tried to lie, Geralt would have known. Either way, killing innocent people to that degree is a huge no-no and a quest later where Geralt is confronted by the Godling, Werewolf, Troll, and doppler is unquestionably a consequence of behavior like that from Gaetan.
I understand why many would decide to spare him, but to me he was too much a liability.
Thanks for the response 👍
Imo the blame of the innocent deaths is more on the village head or the one that made the decision to backstab him rather than the cat witcher
personally i think what he did is unforgiveable even he's cheated or not bcuz he kills dozen innocent ppl when outrage, but i choose not to kill him not bcuz he spare the girl or got cheated, but bcuz geralt is just a monster hunter and have not given rights to judge other witcher doing, and also the fact that witchers is almost extinct, theres only 13 alive witcher by the Witcher 3 timeline, and i dont want to take part on reducing the number anymore, and i choose not to take the reward from his stash either.
He doesn’t seem that remorseful. Just saying “my bad” when talking about killing the innocent villagers.
but they literally tried to kill him lol
@@Papagiorgio153 I get him killing those guys. But not all the ones that were innocent.
@@geigercolten I mean for all we know the entire town was in on it. And the evidence kinda points that way
@@Papagiorgio153 Well looks like I have to play this quest again and investigate further. I just felt like I remember the leaders that were in the farm were the main ones. And it seemed he went out of his way to slaughter the rest even in there homes but I could be wrong.
@@geigercolten To be fair i could be totally wrong as well haha. I think thats what makes it a good quest, its kind of subjective. I might have to play it again myself and see if i missed anything.
Going on bloodrage and killing indiscriminately is reason enough to kill him. Not showing any regret over needless killing only confirms it: he's a rabid dog that needs to be put down.
As for later choice, giving Gaetan a fighting chance, only to get tricked, is a mistake I can totally see Geralt doing.
My code says witchers should not fight or kill each other without just cause there’s so few left
I always kill this guy. He’s one of the few unique humanoid enemies in the game, can never pass it up
Yeah, but it doesn't seem like the choice geralt would make. What he says when you spare him pretty much sums it up. Geralt doesn't really see it as his place to be judge Judy and executioner
@@adamlauer1096 Geralt knows this guy has committed mass murder before and will do it again, what makes you think he wouldn’t kill this guy?
@noname-vd9bq he says its not his place to judge, and there is mitigating circumstances. I think Geralt doesn't make it his place to judge people
@@thatguyyouhatealot and um Geralts done a bit of mass murdering too JS 🤷
@@adamlauer1096 When has Geralt committed mass murder? Geralt has killed people for less than this Cat School Witcher, but he’s never committed murder like that iirc
The fact he is a witcher is why he should die at the time of the game there is already less witchers on the path and no more being created and people are starting to turn their backs on them too so letting gaeton live just tarnishes the trade even more if you think about it on geralts point of view he would kill gaeton not just for the massacre of the village but for the witcher trade itself. Witchers kill monsters like geralt says be that human or not monsters come in all different shapes and sizes the man didn’t have to kill the whole village he could have just killed the people in the barn and be done with it but no he had to carry on his murderous rage and take the whole village which i honestly don’t think geralt could just over look had he just killed the people who harmd him then yeah i think geralt would have let him walk away because his actions would have been just but yet he insisted on killing the whole village which is why he must die. Truthfully i would let him live but i try and play this game as a what would geralt do and try and put myself in his shoes and think what would he do in these situations and i think geralt would out right take this mans life
Killing him is easy, I'd never spare a monster like him
Just a shame he was a Witcher
Though he felt like more of a snake than a cat
true people are so naive
@@bindingselfyeah only naive people believe peasants
I chose yes, kill Gaetan. Why? He gives Witchers a bad name. Second, there is no coming back from massacring an entire village. Defending yourself against people trying to kill you is self-defense, going nuts and killing an entire village is murder.
I killed this guy not just for his sword but because the conversation between he and Geralt suggest that he’s killed humans out of nothing but anger before, bloodlust. Witchers have it bad enough with this medieval Mass Murderer running around
I never understand you guys moral highgrounds, witcher never had any good name to begin with, to humans witchers are just like werewolves, you pay your money and maybe you will be spared, in this case humans are the monsters, trying to bully a witcher just to save money, risking their own childrens life because they can't honor and agreement, i never felt bad for killing other monsters children, so i am fine with these dead, if i am a human in this case i would have killed him, but i am a witcher, i can't kill my kind over the monsters. Let me put it this way, if these innocent creatures are werewolves would you feel that morally justified to kill him? This reminds me of the quest where they give 10 crowns for killing a werewolf when the fair price is at least 100. Yeah i let the little red werewolf kill that motherfucker. Imnocent children are casualities that can be prevented of they just pay the fucking money, or they get killed it is that simple, this isn't a hero fantasy you are playing a merc who kills monsters for money, if the money are not there then they are the monsters end of story.