Facts we should remember: 1. Derrick Rose was the best Point Guard on the Knicks, Pistons, Timberwolves and played more minutes & clutch minutes than the Point Guards who started ahead of him. * The question that has never been asked nor answered was why was Derrick Rose not starting? 2. The high basketball IQ fans realized what was happening and awarded Derrick Rose the fans 2021 NBA MVP vote. * Low basketball IQ media said DRose shouldn't have received the vote because he only started three games. * High basketball IQ fans pointed out the ridiculousness of Derrick Rose NOT BEING THE STARTER, yet having a MVP level impact in lifting the Knicks from a sub .500 team to winning 70% of the games DRose was the DeFacto starting Point Guard, playing 12-15+ STRAIGHT MINUTES STRECTHES, but creating the (on paper) illusion that Thibs was protecting him by keeping him under 30 min. P.S. No way in hell Kemba Walker Elfrid Payton Bruce Brown Killian Hayes Tyus Jones Jeff Teague etc... should've started ahead of Derrick Rose. None could hold DRose's jock strap, and none played more minutes. Bad/suspect Head Coaching have victimized Rose. 3. Thibodeau was supposed to be the guy to help eliminate the 6th man/role player stigma from DRose's name, but Thibodeau appeared to be more interested in devaluing Rose during contract seasons, i.e bringing him off the bench when he should've been starting. So, dropping a healthy Rose from the rotation last season was no surprise to those who were paying attention to Thibodeau during Rose's contract years. Derrick Rose is basically the same age as Jimmy Butler, and Kevin Love and younger than Kyle Lowrey and CP3. Hence, the Grizzlies will be getting a bargain if Rose gets steady minutes & defined role.
@@DarkDarkXIV Notice that all of the media personalities who participated in the blackballing of Rose, are now unemployed. Conversely, D-Rose just signed a two year contract & is still going strong.
@@cvn781 Joe Cowley sexually assaulted a woman during an airplane fight & his baseball MVP vote was so whack that MLB has banned him form voting for life. I'll never touch a Chicago Sun-Times again because they employ Joe Cowley.
they kept tryna blackball rose saying he couldn’t play WHEN HE COULD. Many players always say he can still go. Go rewatch that knicks playoffs from 2022. They don’t allow him to play.
Our bench needs to be as good as our starters as they have hardly played together for the last 2 years. And our bench gets nearly the most minutes in the league.
I'm thinking (or hoping) we go after Jerami Grant now that Dame is heading out. The TPE, Christopher, Clarke and a couple first. The money works and the Blazer get draft capital, a flyer on JC, and a great young big in Clarke in 2024 when he's healthy and on a great team friendly deal. He would pair well with Scoot for them. We would have the best starting five in the league.
Grizzlies were the best team in the West last year but injuries and legal problems handed the trophy to the second best team in the West. Our window could not have been more wide open.
It wasn’t legal problems it was just a breach in contract. But yeah Grizzlies look really good now. We good with Banes and Jaren Jackson taking over for a while. Plus Grizz got Smart and veteran pg Derrick Rose 🔥
They are doing everything they can to get Ja`s head right. Turn to his right he has Smart on his head, turn to his left he has Rose on his head. If he can`t get his s**t together with both those guys babysitting...
This "Joe" guy. LOL. DRose stats when he got playing time. 2021 - 48% 2pt / 41% 3pt 2022 - 44% 2pt / 40% 3pt 2023 - Thibs and Knicks froze DRose out. "Joe" - knows more than the Grizzlies Front Office 😂 If the Grizzlies are smart that need to play DRose 20mins to get an effective player. Yes DRose has not played a full season for a decade. Hence he is a bench player.
Rose is a much better player than what the Knicks made him look to be. Watch him make a similar impact the first time he came to the Knicks in 2021 he was their best player when he got there.
@@Mr.PR2000 In total agreement with you there. From media reports it seems DRose wants playing time. And Memphis should do that. He is not here to be the main PG. That is Ja. What DRose can do is run the 2nd unit as close to how a 1st unit operates. A fully available roster and unit setting could look like: Morant, Smart, Bane, Jackson, Adams Rose, Kennard, Konchar, ?, Tillman The Grizzlies need to go out there and get Taj Gibson and a lengthy SF.
Anyone who knows Ja, knows he has mad respect for Derrick Rose. If smart was going to change the dressing room, as you guys said, then Rose is a redundancy. regardless of his local popularity. Was Josh Richardson on a two way contract with Houston, since he spent so much time in the G league? If so, I would take his contract over Gilyard easily but his outside shooting is not very good and seriously needs to be worked on.
The Brooks S&T still isn't done yet. Unlikely as it is but Jerami Grant hasn't actually signed yet either. Wishful thinking but Josh Christopher to the Blazers with Clarke the 2024 FR 2026 FR. Best starting five in the league?? Ja, Bane, Grant, Jackson, Adams. Closing lineup of Ja, Bane, Smart or Kennard, Grant, and JJJ. Pending defense or offense and that's a Chip right there.
this guy Joe talking about Rose's stats from this past season as if he really played minutes. shouldn't even be talking stats & really compared him to Dillion Brooks smh
Drose isn't expected to start. He's accepted his bench role a few yrs ago. I believe it's to help get ja on track. Drose is from the rough part of Chicago. So he knows about the lifestyle that ja is trying to portray
@@Mr.PR2000 didn't say that..but he has taken younger players under his wings. Topping, quickley...ja need a good role model now..and drose definitely fit the bill.. he'll play but won't start
um joe what suggest he’s washed? Rose was going off on the pistons and that first year on the knicks he carried. he only didn’t play this year for the benefit of the young knicks.
Why are you not reporting on Kenny Lofton Jr, The Grizzlies next Rising Star who recently scored 42 pts against OKC? I don't recall Laravia or Roddy doing that.
Voshon Leonard once scored 50 points in a game... You probably have to run to google to find out who he is after you read this. 40 is not what it used to be and a 40 point games doesn`t doesn`t guarantee future success. There were 203 individual 40 point performances last season... 203! There were more 40 point games then actual game night on the calendar. Kuzma, LaVert, Herro, Tucker, Washington, Grant, Barrett, Simons, Monk... He** Cam Thomas averaged 40 points a game for an entire week and was out of the rotation the following week. Hopefully Kenny comes into camp in shape and a good weight and can be a productive rotation player this coming season... Rising star... Lets hold off on that until he proves he can come into camp in shape and crack the rotation.
It's not a basketball move - remember danny Green? Wasn't that long ago that the team tried it with a veteran who actually had rings and not just popularity.
he isn’t washed. He didn’t play because he let the young kids play in new york. Many players say he can still go and will of given the opportunity. Go rewatch some highlights don’t just type.
Damn Ja about to give D.Rose real life flashbacks to when he was his age in the league
Facts we should remember:
1. Derrick Rose was the best Point Guard on the Knicks, Pistons, Timberwolves and played more minutes & clutch minutes than the Point Guards who started ahead of him.
* The question that has never been asked nor answered was why was Derrick Rose not starting?
2. The high basketball IQ fans realized what was happening and awarded Derrick Rose the fans 2021 NBA MVP vote.
* Low basketball IQ media said DRose shouldn't have received the vote because he only started three games.
* High basketball IQ fans pointed out the ridiculousness of Derrick Rose NOT BEING THE STARTER, yet having a MVP level impact in lifting the Knicks from a sub .500 team to winning 70% of the games DRose was the DeFacto starting Point Guard, playing 12-15+ STRAIGHT MINUTES STRECTHES, but creating the (on paper) illusion that Thibs was protecting him by keeping him under 30 min.
P.S.
No way in hell
Kemba Walker
Elfrid Payton
Bruce Brown
Killian Hayes
Tyus Jones
Jeff Teague
etc...
should've started ahead of Derrick Rose.
None could hold DRose's jock strap, and none played more minutes. Bad/suspect Head Coaching have victimized Rose.
3. Thibodeau was supposed to be the guy to help eliminate the 6th man/role player stigma from DRose's name, but Thibodeau appeared to be more interested in devaluing Rose during contract seasons, i.e bringing him off the bench when he should've been starting.
So, dropping a healthy Rose from the rotation last season was no surprise to those who were paying attention to Thibodeau during Rose's contract years.
Derrick Rose is basically the same age as Jimmy Butler, and Kevin Love and younger than Kyle Lowrey and CP3.
Hence, the Grizzlies will be getting a bargain if Rose gets steady minutes & defined role.
Rose been blacked balled for years.
@@DarkDarkXIV Notice that all of the media personalities who participated in the blackballing of Rose, are now unemployed.
Conversely, D-Rose just signed a two year contract & is still going strong.
@@scoesixtray2457 Joe Cowley somehow still has a job. I remember you from sbnation and other sites, good to hear from you again. Southside forever😂
@@cvn781 Joe Cowley sexually assaulted a woman during an airplane fight & his baseball MVP vote was so whack that MLB has banned him form voting for life.
I'll never touch a Chicago Sun-Times again because they employ Joe Cowley.
Let's not forget the short time in Minnesota I believe he started their turn around before Edwards.
they kept tryna blackball rose saying he couldn’t play WHEN HE COULD. Many players always say he can still go. Go rewatch that knicks playoffs from 2022. They don’t allow him to play.
Knicks organization doing Knicks decisions.
WE ARE MEMPHIS! GO GRIZZLIES AND TIGERS!
Our bench needs to be as good as our starters as they have hardly played together for the last 2 years. And our bench gets nearly the most minutes in the league.
With the trade exception and additional player through the sign and trade with Houston, I expect another move is on the horizon.
I'm thinking (or hoping) we go after Jerami Grant now that Dame is heading out. The TPE, Christopher, Clarke and a couple first. The money works and the Blazer get draft capital, a flyer on JC, and a great young big in Clarke in 2024 when he's healthy and on a great team friendly deal. He would pair well with Scoot for them. We would have the best starting five in the league.
Need a lob from Drose to Ja my life will be complete
Grizzlies were the best team in the West last year but injuries and legal problems handed the trophy to the second best team in the West. Our window could not have been more wide open.
our window is the next 10 years we’ll be straight
I havent been as excited to watch a team since the 90's bulls.
It wasn’t legal problems it was just a breach in contract. But yeah Grizzlies look really good now. We good with Banes and Jaren Jackson taking over for a while. Plus Grizz got Smart and veteran pg Derrick Rose 🔥
So true Stephen Adams could have helped on the boards
Heyyyy,What Some Kenny Loften Talk.?!? He Is A Very Good Player To Be Recognized.”Just Saying”….
They are doing everything they can to get Ja`s head right. Turn to his right he has Smart on his head, turn to his left he has Rose on his head. If he can`t get his s**t together with both those guys babysitting...
Ja not only one Marus Smart is very out Spokeing if how Santi play Marus gonna call him Out including the Coach
This "Joe" guy. LOL.
DRose stats when he got playing time.
2021 - 48% 2pt / 41% 3pt
2022 - 44% 2pt / 40% 3pt
2023 - Thibs and Knicks froze DRose out.
"Joe" - knows more than the Grizzlies Front Office 😂
If the Grizzlies are smart that need to play DRose 20mins to get an effective player.
Yes DRose has not played a full season for a decade. Hence he is a bench player.
Rose is a much better player than what the Knicks made him look to be. Watch him make a similar impact the first time he came to the Knicks in 2021 he was their best player when he got there.
@@Mr.PR2000 In total agreement with you there.
From media reports it seems DRose wants playing time. And Memphis should do that. He is not here to be the main PG. That is Ja. What DRose can do is run the 2nd unit as close to how a 1st unit operates.
A fully available roster and unit setting could look like:
Morant, Smart, Bane, Jackson, Adams
Rose, Kennard, Konchar, ?, Tillman
The Grizzlies need to go out there and get Taj Gibson and a lengthy SF.
@@rahel.gr33n I agree. It will be interesting to see.
I’d like to see if Manny Bates is a plausible backup big.
Love the D-Rose Trade...Definitely someone who Ja might respect in the Locker room...Not sure Smart is that Vet guy!!
No summer league for ziare?
Anyone who knows Ja, knows he has mad respect for Derrick Rose. If smart was going to change the dressing room, as you guys said, then Rose is a redundancy. regardless of his local popularity.
Was Josh Richardson on a two way contract with Houston, since he spent so much time in the G league? If so, I would take his contract over Gilyard easily but his outside shooting is not very good and seriously needs to be worked on.
Josh Richardson on a two-way contract? What are you talking about?
i think thats why they got him, hopefully he embraces that role and gets a ring for his work.
@@fluidsoffornication4636 As you can see with question mark I was asking a question do you know the answer?
Joe, you leave Kenny alone! :)
Guns N' Roses : Welcome to the jungle
DR is a big part of Memphis sports….because someone took his SAT for him.
🥶.
The Brooks S&T still isn't done yet. Unlikely as it is but Jerami Grant hasn't actually signed yet either. Wishful thinking but Josh Christopher to the Blazers with Clarke the 2024 FR 2026 FR. Best starting five in the league?? Ja, Bane, Grant, Jackson, Adams. Closing lineup of Ja, Bane, Smart or Kennard, Grant, and JJJ. Pending defense or offense and that's a Chip right there.
Rose and JA= Guns N Roses
Ive seen that way too many times.
Don’t say Ja and Guns!
this guy Joe talking about Rose's stats from this past season as if he really played minutes. shouldn't even be talking stats & really compared him to Dillion Brooks smh
D Rose has been a great player, but he won’t start as Banes and Smart will start before Rose
Drose isn't expected to start. He's accepted his bench role a few yrs ago. I believe it's to help get ja on track. Drose is from the rough part of Chicago. So he knows about the lifestyle that ja is trying to portray
@@justwayne75e didn’t sign with the Grizzlies just to babysit Ja Morant. The organization said they want him on the floor too.
@@Mr.PR2000 didn't say that..but he has taken younger players under his wings. Topping, quickley...ja need a good role model now..and drose definitely fit the bill.. he'll play but won't start
um joe what suggest he’s washed? Rose was going off on the pistons and that first year on the knicks he carried. he only didn’t play this year for the benefit of the young knicks.
Did you see what D-Rose did to Ja a couple years ago?
Why are you not reporting on Kenny Lofton Jr, The Grizzlies next Rising Star who recently scored 42 pts against OKC? I don't recall Laravia or Roddy doing that.
Voshon Leonard once scored 50 points in a game... You probably have to run to google to find out who he is after you read this. 40 is not what it used to be and a 40 point games doesn`t doesn`t guarantee future success. There were 203 individual 40 point performances last season... 203! There were more 40 point games then actual game night on the calendar. Kuzma, LaVert, Herro, Tucker, Washington, Grant, Barrett, Simons, Monk... He** Cam Thomas averaged 40 points a game for an entire week and was out of the rotation the following week. Hopefully Kenny comes into camp in shape and a good weight and can be a productive rotation player this coming season... Rising star... Lets hold off on that until he proves he can come into camp in shape and crack the rotation.
Taurean Prince would be perfect, and everything points for him to be a good mentor.
He’s a Laker
@@jw4172 I know, but unless they know they will get a starting caliber sf better than him they should have offer most of the MLE to him.
I still believe we get OG.
He wants out of toronto because he wants a bigger role. "I want the ball in my hands more". That does not fit with Memphis
Derrick rose is washed 👍veteran wing was needed im not happy.
I dont see rose being useful for memphis
It's not a basketball move - remember danny Green? Wasn't that long ago that the team tried it with a veteran who actually had rings and not just popularity.
@@carltonberry137 pretty sure Green was a salary dump as part of the Melton trade to get Roddy.
he isn’t washed. He didn’t play because he let the young kids play in new york. Many players say he can still go and will of given the opportunity. Go rewatch some highlights don’t just type.
I dont like yall Show yall Always Down Ja get other people on lock Down Grizzlies an that Big head one Please get Rid of him
Booooo hush up now. No place for your seemingly drunkin slander.