The smash bros demo is 5 min long exactly so there is actually a theoretical scenario where a mario speedrunner looks at his friends, cracks open smash bros 4 and says "watch this."
Primarina Queen smartest man alive discovered 0.5 A presses were a thing instead of getting to Mars, and then just dropped out of youtube to upload on an underground secondary channel. If Pannen did ABC irl we’d be travelling through PUs across space-time right now.
Imagine this from the perspective of a goomba or a koopa- Bowser kidnaps the princess and within minutes this crazy Italian plumber just comes rocketing past, dodging or destroying everything in his path, heading straight for Boswer's castle. There's a blur and a "mama mia" and he's gone. Then, in the castle, Bowser's just gotten back with the princess and there's this incredible commotion as the plumber just whooshes around every obstacle they spent weeks building, past all the highly trained minions, Bowser's elite generals, and storms into his personal quarters, dropping the bridge right from under his feet and sending him to a fiery end in the lava below. Before Bowser even has time to realize what is happening his plan is completely annihilated
True, now go back and really read the description of the original game, think of all you just said, and realize that mario is the villain and the bad guy just dropped the pwn hammer on an entire kingdoms defenses in minutes.
@@YTSunnys i swear there is a comment just like this one in pannen's "Watch for Rolling Rocks 0.5x A Presses Commentated" video,only swapping 'Super Mario Bros.' for 'Super Mario 64
imagine playing the same game, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over times 6xxx again... just for some dude to beat you in only 9 attempts... Ouch.
Sadly, I do know what that’s like. I spent a whole month grinding a boss in Sonic Rush (the Altitude Limit Zone boss) to get a world record time with Blaze, and another month to do it again with Sonic, only to have the Sonic run beaten the exact same day I posted it, and the Blaze run beaten mere days later. I wanted to break things.
Tetra Sky it definitely wasn’t only 9 attempts. I watched him attempting this before using the new methods and he had done it thousands and thousands of times
"If it is possible, it *will* be done" Bruh humans and our damn minds literally reaching our full capacity at all possible for a fukin game made 35 years ago
@@wrath_oflists3614 Honestly, thats true, but thats not joking abiut cancer, if its explaining a cure for cancer, and its just a funny meme stop being salty
@@EVPointMaster except that's literally what the TAS did....But not everything the TAS does is 1. rule following 2. humanly possible. The video literally explained that there are more ways to save frames thanks to the TAS but not all are allowed, possible, have been attempted, or have an extremely low chance of even happening.
@@ontopofspaghetti29 really, they took the brute force approach for Mario Bros. 1? Because if that's the case, it wasn't mentioned anywhere in the video
I'm not even into speed running, but I loved this game, and I love seeing that people still play it. This was fascinating and I watched the whole thing and I don't know why.
I never had any interest in speedrunning, but started coming across stuff like this, and became a big fan of the community. I don't think I'm going to be doing any of this myself, but it's fun to watch.
Seriously... I have no words for how good this video is... All the information was spot-on, and the inspirational message at the end was a really nice touch. 10/10
@@thoyo No it's not. Our current machine learning technology is terrible at speed running. It is currently just trying random stuff and seeing what works or uses very simple strategies. See for example SethBling's MarI/O. Most importantly, there is no effective way for current AI to find and exploit glitches, while humans can be very good at it with the help of looking at the game's code and having a deep understanding of the game's mechanics.
For moving ghosts, I superposed both videos and edited them frame by frame so the background would be lined up. For the infographic at the end, I used the 4:54.03 TAS and calculated the correct frame to display for each of the slower times, edited the TAS so that Mario would always be shown on the ground except when he touches the axe, took screenshots, and lined them up with Photoshop.
Especially ever since they talked about how your speedrun was possible? Weird how you were the first to get a 4.55 but it was beaten before this video's release.
Truly amazing video. Thank you for doing this. I appreciate your expertise, attention to detail, no-nonsense explaining, and sharp editing. Brilliant effort by you AND by all the speed runners featured.
I didn't know I cared until I watched this. But you bet your sweet ass if someone asks me what the current speed run record for Super Mario Bros is I'll know the answer
YES 4:55 PERFECT SPEEDRUN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO is good but NOOOOOOOOOOO 4:54 is perfect for NIFTYYES 4:55 PERFECT SPEEDRUN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO is good but NOOOOOOOOOOO 4:54 is perfect for NIFTY
BREAKING: Kosmicd12 took the record back today with a 4:55.646. He beat tavenwebb2002's record by six frames, or a tenth of a second. Notably, the 8-4 in the run was the first one that was faster than a perfect 8-4 with no fast accelerations to be performed at the end of a world record run. (by five frames)
@@derehrenturke1126 Now, it is true that the framerule save was performed, but it will probably never be done in a real time run, as I am assuming he didn't just do it on his second try.
KrazyKyle1024 Games no not at all but it’s just nice to know because often Time saves are strats that are to difficult to pull off but after some Time when there nothing to Save they try to do it so the 8-2 might at some time lower the record
Yeah I don't have time to do it. I work too much. Must be nice to sit home and play Mario literally all day long. Either that or they work and never sleep and stay up for months at a time. Maybe drugs are involved? Lol
speedrunning is not hard, it is beating the game in the fastest way possible, so as long as u can beat the game and u do it as fast as YOU can, its a speedrun
I don't understand how he did that... After he realized that he could actually get 4.55 he still did everything pretty much perfectly... If I ever realized that I was going at a pace to beat the most impossible world record in the world, my hands would shake so frantically that they would starting phasing through objects like the Flash
how do they even measure their time down to the frame? I don't understand how their program works. Do they just hit a button at the exact time they finish?
1986: Is it even possible to beat the game in less than ten minutes?! 2002: Is sub 5:00 even possible?! 2018: 4:54 is probably possible if someone plays NEARLY perfectly... 2026: Yeah, 4:51 is definitely impossible. 2034: Really, there's no way to get a sub 4:50! 2050: THERE IS A WAY TO THEORETICALLY GET THE LEGENDARY 4:47!!! 2074: If only we could save one more framerule, we'd be able to get a sub 4:45... 2082: *Speedrunner gets a **4:44** in speedrun race of "Super Mario Bros." using new strategies unlike any before*
13076: Wow what how did you get a 1:42? Edit: OMG THIS IS MY MOST LIKED COMMENT/REPLY EVER BY LIKE 140 LIKES OMG!!! Also lol I forgot about this reply so I just saw it today Edit 2: lol not anymore
It's pretty awesome how this video, despite only being less than two years old, is already incredibly outdated. TAS 8-2 is easier than pl8-1 now and VERY viable for runs. Hopefully we'll see a 4:54 in the next year or two
@@Gamer2k4 Well every frame counts, as even a single frame can save an entire frame rule in certain levels. And in 8-4, every frame counts as no frame rules apply in that level.
@@eduardozepol2000 starting in world 2 isnt slower because this is todd rogers we're talking about, he probably started in 7th gear to access the 4-2 warpzone from 2-1's coin heaven
@@katacutie Seriously. Wes is a nice guy. Then you have Kosmic, who's kind of an arrogant prick. If they ever made a movie, we know which one's Daniel and which one's Johnny. Lol.
@@jpeg7082 Lol, the original. Before they made Daniel a pain in the ass. Well, more of a pain in the ass then he already was. (Hiwever, the Cobra Kai series was awesome.)
@@inigotarrus8144 Yes, its no longer defined by a physical object, before the defenition of a kilogram was the mass of an object stored in france, in a vault, that object is exatly 1 kg, because that was what defined the kg, but that object's mass was changing, so we needed to make it a constant So now the kg doesnt change This means that avogrados doesnt change either, because the defenition was the amount of atoms in 12 grams of carbon-12, the gram is 1/1000 of kg, so now its fixed because so is the kg
That's actually the easiest part of fpg. You basically just do the second input slightly after the first one, almost as fast as you can (almost to avoid jumping one frame later). It gets into muscle memory really quick, so that you almost always get the second frame-perfect input when you get the first one.
@@slm0nw174 he didn’t have the information to accurately predict it. You can’t expect him to predict the future using information that didn’t exist. Time has everything to do with it
Very well-made video. My prediction for future SMB real-time speedrunning would be frame war in 8-4. I don't think trying that 8-1 framerule save in a real run is possible unless we have a robotic-precision input player someday. My 4-2 framerule save solution is also not feasible in a real run, but would be fun to see someone actually go for it. It requires no more frame-perfect inputs than the 8-1 framerule save. That "releasing right for 1 frame" approach is how I calculated to do that wall clip perfectly, but one can do it slightly less perfectly because unlike 8-1, you'll have 3 frames to spare (or more with backward acceleration).
@@Bismuth9 Even if the pipe entry was slower, one can maybe choose to gain more frames to spare with backward acceleration. The hardest part is the corner clip, but the good news is it's right from the beginning, so one can try thousands of times with it and hopefully maybe succeed once in a while.
I found out by reproducing the inputs to get a smooth capture and a timeline to display inputs correctly. It's definitely not happening in a real run, and to think it would be required for 4:54...
Is there any chance you could provide us with a set of inputs which is more user-friendly but has 0 frames to spare? Also could you point out the parts of your current 4-2 solution that must be frame perfect?
This video and its predecessor are so good. I understand ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about speedruns. It's as close to magic to me as makes no difference. But you've managed to explain everything about this particular set of tricks and glitches in a way that's so accessible I actually get it, while at the same time making it clear how difficult, testing, and even sometimes unsolveable without sheer luck or bloody-minded persistence it can be. I actually understand what's going on here, and that means I can see why it's so impressive. Thank you so much for making that. (And much respect to Kosmic and somewes.)
Sub 1 minute could legit be possible if arbitrary code execution is found. That's how games like pokemon red, ocarina of time and super mario world have extremely short speedruns with absolutely gamebreaking shit like warp to credits.
He is essentially an analytics specialist. And great at informational writing. You frame his inability to grab a record as a negative and that’s kind of disingenuous. (You watched this video, for example, yet you can’t pull it off yourself. See what I mean?) He’s also not *trying* to get records. While I can’t speak for him, his interests seem to fall in line to help people who *dont* speedrun understand just how impressive some of these feats are, and how incredibly rewarding and helpful TAS runs can be. His talents and ability to create are entirely
That ending part at 28:24 showing all the records really put everything into perspective. I think the only way 4:54 will happen live on a speedrun is if someone finds another method somewhere since it's really not possible with the current run.
Since the release of this video the record has been improved 4 times - 4:55.746 by tavenweb2002, 4:55.646 by Kosmic, 4:55.430 by Niftski and now Miniland with 4:55.314.
BREAKING: tavenwebb2002 just saved the framerule in World 8-2 in real time and tied the TAS in that level. The SoB has officially dipped into 4:54 territory.
@@rammuu However, Niftski and Miniland took the throne away from him. Sorry, Kosmic. It is nice for you to rule, but they had to overthrow you. I hope you could win the throne again, Kosmic.
amazing video! I was there when the first 4:55 was achieved, it was amazing, No one expected it, even kosmic wasnt taking it seriously, what ended up in a legendary run having way too many jokes in it, but think it just made it better haha
This video is outdated. I recommend this one instead: ruclips.net/video/U7RzoIEoSMY/видео.html
First to reply to the pin? What?!
Second to reply to the pin? What?!
@@glockspeedgaming5072 First to reply to the first pin reply? What?!
@@wwvvww7735 First to reply to the first reply to the first pin reply? What?!
chain break
When the free trial is only 5 minutes
lol
toad: sorry mario, but the full game is in another castle
@@TheRidiculousR
EA: make a micro-transaction to go to the next world
It's like playing Minecraft Story Mode except each part lasts like 4 minutes
Gotta go fast.
The smash bros demo is 5 min long exactly so there is actually a theoretical scenario where a mario speedrunner looks at his friends, cracks open smash bros 4 and says "watch this."
So this is why we haven't gone past the moon yet.
All the rocket scientists are speed running Mario.
I'd mention and Super Mario 64, but I guess that also counts as Mario...
Primarina Queen smartest man alive discovered 0.5 A presses were a thing instead of getting to Mars, and then just dropped out of youtube to upload on an underground secondary channel. If Pannen did ABC irl we’d be travelling through PUs across space-time right now.
@@brenomanhaes9322 ABC?
Thats what i was thinking these guys can use that brainpower to solve world problems..lol
@@sdmitch16 A button challenge
Princess peach: Mario help me
Mario: aight I’ll be there in 5
Speedrunners: I’ll be there in 4.
... *and* *finish* *that* *fast*
@@-Tarzan was it funny to you
Joshua Linause when you copy splashy 76 -;)
Lit A Ly 5 what? 5 Bananas?
I never imagined that playing Mario would become a science.
You should watch the super Mario 64 TAS.
It already is! Search up Pannenkoek2012 and Stryder7x
You must be new to the Mario speed running scene
Yeah,me neither...It just confuses me.
@@foxyd2thegreat165 that shit deals with parallel universes and shit
"im not going to explain the tricks" *immediately begins explaining many tricks*
Emphasis on "in full detail". I did a quick 90-second refresher because all that info is essential to understand the following 25 minutes.
@@Bismuth9 dont ruin my comment with your context!
😂
do you know what the word ' *explain* ' means?
Jefferflakes don’t ruin his video by your comment
I'm not sure if I just watched a speed run break down or a college dissertation on pixels and frame rates. This is insane.
@@Chaosfury50 just from your name I can tell I should take this advice to heart. Thank you wise one.
Both. Gg world records are insane
@Ouija ZaZa Gaming I cant tell if this is a joke, or if you're actually this toxic.
@@mehmemeh5285 what did he say
@@messiahdowling4196 dont remember, but he can't be much of a honest person if he deleted his comment like a coward.
Imagine this from the perspective of a goomba or a koopa- Bowser kidnaps the princess and within minutes this crazy Italian plumber just comes rocketing past, dodging or destroying everything in his path, heading straight for Boswer's castle. There's a blur and a "mama mia" and he's gone. Then, in the castle, Bowser's just gotten back with the princess and there's this incredible commotion as the plumber just whooshes around every obstacle they spent weeks building, past all the highly trained minions, Bowser's elite generals, and storms into his personal quarters, dropping the bridge right from under his feet and sending him to a fiery end in the lava below. Before Bowser even has time to realize what is happening his plan is completely annihilated
True, now go back and really read the description of the original game, think of all you just said, and realize that mario is the villain and the bad guy just dropped the pwn hammer on an entire kingdoms defenses in minutes.
😂😂😂
Hey if Bowser was actually trying, he would have given his soldiers weapons
Ouija ZaZa Gaming OK buster, chill
Ouija ZaZa Gaming Speed runners have a life too you know
As I'm sure many of you heard, 4:54 was done a few days ago by Niftski! Watch the run here: ruclips.net/video/i3NRe3KulqU/видео.html
First
New video?
When is the new video coming bismuth? I'm eagerly waiting 😁
what the hell how
@@I_nnerPeace niftski got it, he did a pl8-1 and saved the tas 8-2 framerule
Nintendo tricked us when they said Super Mario Bros. was a platformer. It's actually a puzzle.
is this an edit of a comment in pannenkoek's channel
@@TheKeitaNobodyAskedFor ???
@@YTSunnys i swear there is a comment just like this one in pannen's "Watch for Rolling Rocks 0.5x A Presses Commentated" video,only swapping 'Super Mario Bros.' for 'Super Mario 64
@@TheKeitaNobodyAskedFor Yes, it was Kaze
Wut?
Bowser: im gonna eat the princess in 5 mins
Mario: ...
haha... 'eat'
I’m gonna marry the princess in 4:55.762
S. nense bowser should eat me
Soo what kind of bowser are we talking about??
@@glassdtomato4046 man eating
imagine playing the same game, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over times 6xxx again... just for some dude to beat you in only 9 attempts... Ouch.
Sadly, I do know what that’s like. I spent a whole month grinding a boss in Sonic Rush (the Altitude Limit Zone boss) to get a world record time with Blaze, and another month to do it again with Sonic, only to have the Sonic run beaten the exact same day I posted it, and the Blaze run beaten mere days later. I wanted to break things.
Wasn't really "only 9 attempts". He had been playing the game for years.. just wasn't going for certain tricks.
Tetra Sky it definitely wasn’t only 9 attempts. I watched him attempting this before using the new methods and he had done it thousands and thousands of times
@@hfactor66 ik I'm late but that's a fat RIP - gl for your future runs I guess
Shiiiit
"If it is possible, it *will* be done"
Bruh humans and our damn minds literally reaching our full capacity at all possible for a fukin game made 35 years ago
*35
@@brock9432 Thanks
Human Brian only uses 10% of its abilities to 🤯 crazy
Wawww
@@hudson_daugherty1074 that's a myth
*princess captured*
Mario: "oh hey princess, you're captured again? Be there in *4min 55 seconds* "
Peach: but Bowser said I only have 4:54 to live!
Mario: * breaks out the TAS *
@@albond peach dies .2 seconds before you arrive
Mama Mia!
@@liamkennedy8768 well
There is still Bowsette...
*Princess is rescued
Princess: Oh hi Mario.
First time watching an speed run analysis video, never knew there was this much math in speed running.
Welcome to speedrunning :D I'd recommend SummoningSalt on RUclips for similar videos on speedrunning.
MrGreenYeti oh yeahhhhh
Same here. Mind=blown O_o
A*
Summoning salt does the most enjoyable and very good explanation leaves u wanting more videos
year 2030: super mario speedrunners found a cure for cancer on world 8-4 using a frame glitch .
Dont joke about cancer its not funny
@@wrath_oflists3614 Honestly, thats true, but thats not joking abiut cancer, if its explaining a cure for cancer, and its just a funny meme stop being salty
@@wrath_oflists3614 why so serious
wrath_oflists # I would say you’re cancer but you’re not funny
John Smith lmao gotem!
Bismuth: ,,4:54 is humanly impossible"
Niftski: hold my red
Why did you make it have a reply
@@Fishtuna1 Ok I’ll delete mine, you delete yours
@@Fishtuna1 bruh
By the way, a 4:53 is possible in Super Mario Bros. Extended! Watch the TAS here!
ruclips.net/video/MJgLHFj6r1Q/видео.html
@@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn ruclips.net/video/BLUkgRAy_Vo/видео.html&ab_channel=hiimhaash
20:48 - In the past 9 years, only one frame of time save was found.
That's how science is. Takes time.
9 years to save a frame on a fucking mario game. Given Moore's Law, I really can't believe how much time it takes for science.
Anoob Razak That's how mafia works.
9 fucking years should be enough to just simulate every possible input for every frame of the speedrun
@@EVPointMaster except that's literally what the TAS did....But not everything the TAS does is
1. rule following
2. humanly possible.
The video literally explained that there are more ways to save frames thanks to the TAS but not all are allowed, possible, have been attempted, or have an extremely low chance of even happening.
@@ontopofspaghetti29 really, they took the brute force approach for Mario Bros. 1? Because if that's the case, it wasn't mentioned anywhere in the video
I'm not even into speed running, but I loved this game, and I love seeing that people still play it. This was fascinating and I watched the whole thing and I don't know why.
I never had any interest in speedrunning, but started coming across stuff like this, and became a big fan of the community. I don't think I'm going to be doing any of this myself, but it's fun to watch.
You should watch Summoning Salt's speedrun series, they are also top notch.
i watched it because youtube recommended it for over half a week
because it’s fascinating. you just said that yourself
I've never even played this game (it's before my time) nor do I care for speedrunning but this was very interesting.
i love how speedruns are literally miliseconds apart
Every frame counts
It's the same with actual Olympic runs, so...
@@sinteleon the Olympics runner actually win something nevertheless I appreciate the dedication
Primarina Queen barely
Hades
speedrunning awards you with a feeling of accomplishment and a world record
apparently not a life though
It’s absolutely insane that 454 actually happened
Hey yiply
Hey
and not even .998 but .948 it’s insane
and bismuth didn't explain (or i didnt get it) how it became possible when he said it was humanly impossible, what changed?
@@Lukz99 kriller37 found a setup that made tas8-2 humanly possible
Anyone else EXTREMELY satisfied by that perfect 30:00 video length though????
Everything is satisfying in this video , this man know how to make videos
I'm freaked out by its perfection.
It could only be achieved by a frame-perfect sequence of three button presses.
@@anlumo1 half an a press
I noticed the length as well
Forget saving peach Mario, save the framerules!
Underrated comment
THE NUMBERS MARIO, WHAT DOES THEY MEAN?
YES 4:55 PERFECT SPEEDRUN
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO is good but NOOOOOOOOOOO
4:54 is perfect for NIFTY
Seriously... I have no words for how good this video is... All the information was spot-on, and the inspirational message at the end was a really nice touch.
10/10
Well said my friend.
Dude you have 80 likes....was that really worth editing the comment to say thank you?
None of them had pizza and coke, they are all fake
Epic_ Donut2.5 yes
Nice reference
Memerath I noticed that too
Good reference
Gameboy Great that comment is fake, no mention of coke or pizza
humans vs. technology
the separation:
1 second.
juneru but you need a rly well trained human an a lot of attempts
Yeah, after 6000 attempts from the best of us. While my computer can "beat" the world record with a %100 accuracy.
@@sidma5661 Not really dude. Unlike us, AI cant do glitch unless we teach it how to
@@khoivu5911 machine learning technology is already capable of teaching computers to do that. Someone just has to write the code.
@@thoyo No it's not. Our current machine learning technology is terrible at speed running. It is currently just trying random stuff and seeing what works or uses very simple strategies. See for example SethBling's MarI/O. Most importantly, there is no effective way for current AI to find and exploit glitches, while humans can be very good at it with the help of looking at the game's code and having a deep understanding of the game's mechanics.
6022 attempts...
nice
Speedrun Fails judging by your username you have a lot of material know :)
Only 20 orders of magnitude away!
Thats more attempts than number of days some of us have been alive lol
I have 10 000 on a geometry dash level
@@mafi4n758 Most I've ever had was 51,274 on Deadly Clubstep, gave up at 95%
The ghosts are actually so incredibly useful, thank you.
Do you know if those are an editing trick or an emulator script?
@@warmCabin editing
For moving ghosts, I superposed both videos and edited them frame by frame so the background would be lined up.
For the infographic at the end, I used the 4:54.03 TAS and calculated the correct frame to display for each of the slower times, edited the TAS so that Mario would always be shown on the ground except when he touches the axe, took screenshots, and lined them up with Photoshop.
Bismuth goddamn mate you are really great at editing videos! Hats off to you!
Indeed! This was a very well done visual aid.
8-2 had strategy developments over the past two years and it is now achievable! Watch the newest WR here: ruclips.net/video/qRkTX1K2aK8/видео.html
POG
New video please
POG
POG
Niftski is so good, 26 frames from 4:54.998
HYPE
BISMUTH MAKES THE HIGHEST QUALITY VIDS
TRUE
Especially ever since they talked about how your speedrun was possible? Weird how you were the first to get a 4.55 but it was beaten before this video's release.
U will hold the world record i am telling ya
This is my first time seeing one of his videos and I'm inclined to agree.
E Z E nuf for bismuth ;)
"he decided to stop running 6 pixels later" is this guy a cyborg?
What minute? I need to know 😆
sounds like bullshit to me. same for all the "did that at exactly this single frame"
Ryuudo123 It sounded like bs to me but that dude mostly had a looot of practise n even we could do it having played 100k+ runs
Tbh, I think this is more muscle memory than them really counting pixels so fast.
@@PepsT It is. Thats why they fail some runs.
Mom: Honey, we leave in 5 minutes
Kosmic: OK!
***NES Console Turns ON***
*when it takes you longer to turn on the console than it does to beat the game*
It's funny because he lives with his mom
@@koolkid9806 r/woooosh
@@LIVEMETRIX187 you really don't seem to understand r/wooosh
@@koolkid9806 Everyone knows why it is funny.
Truly amazing video. Thank you for doing this. I appreciate your expertise, attention to detail, no-nonsense explaining, and sharp editing. Brilliant effort by you AND by all the speed runners featured.
Thank you!
@Manny Rodríguez 2 simp
@Manny Rodríguez 2 are too 😆
@Manny Rodríguez 2 ARE TOO!!
@Manny Rodríguez 2 ARE
When you need to use the bathroom but the toilet is in 8-4
RAEVIX AXE I did not get it
Thank you Mario! But the toilet is in another castle!
@@alexaplaydespacito2422 it means mario has to runnnnnn as fast as he can to get to the toilet(8-4)
Alexa play despacito 2 it’s because he’s speedrunning to the final level to use the bathroom
@@wilhelmsarosen4735 oof
My favorite part of this video is at 4:54
Same
LOL
andrewg1990 lol someday
hey I understood this reference ayy
andrewg1990 lul
I never knew speed running was this intense, the difference of a single pixel...
Mario Bros is *insanely* demanding. Most speedruns are much more lenient.
Well, subpixel even
speedrunning*
Earth Is A Donut its actually even harder bc of subpixels
I know right?! It's like the Olympian ideal of gaming.
I love how the video is exactly 30 mins
MegaPG so calculated
l0l
I was hoping it would be 4:55
@Klack Koaster bruh you make it sound like im targeting you, but ill delete it if it makes you feel better
No it ends on 31:00
Mario: *Wall Jumps in Super Mario Bros.*
Our Reality: *_IMPLODES_*
Mr. Jordan i don't feel so good ;-;
Jordan Warner
I did that once.
I also got a triple backward hop once.
@@want-diversecontent3887 half the universe is dead don't make the rest of it implode ;-;
I have done wall jumps in real life. It only adds another foot onto the jump and throws you far away from the wall.
"Why do people do this?"
Because putting an incredibly difficult task ahead of you is the only way to feel alive.
It's a way to stun yourself so you can't realize how meaningless life is, it's called "divertissement" in Blaise Pascal's philosopy
Right. Many people say that life wo working is the perfect thing but life wo any difficulties would be pretty boring ig
Because it's fun. It's a hobby. It's not that deep to be honest.
@@christophhesse395 What did you even just say
Mariguana Right. Many people say that life without working is the perfect thing but life without any difficulties would be boring I guess
i love how literally nobody cares about this stuff but we still watch it
I didn't know I cared until I watched this. But you bet your sweet ass if someone asks me what the current speed run record for Super Mario Bros is I'll know the answer
We are naturally curious about how any crazy thing happens no matter how frivolous it may seem in the grand scheme of things
@@islandboy9381 op was probably talking about the technical stuff
We get to see cool stuff happen without having to do it ourselves. Same reason it's fun to watch Messi play soccer :)
i love how literally none of us in the comments can beat the first level but we all think we can beat 4:55
13:04 in the chat bismuth9 says "don't invalidate my video please i worked too hard"
Good eye!
YES 4:55 PERFECT SPEEDRUN
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO is good but NOOOOOOOOOOO
4:54 is perfect for NIFTYYES 4:55 PERFECT SPEEDRUN
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO is good but NOOOOOOOOOOO
4:54 is perfect for NIFTY
He also gave an emote at 14:10 when he got the record but I can't make out what it was.
JAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@LeoStaley a dog emote?
Take a shot every time he says "frame"
and that's how you die
please do not do this
Or framerule
Or "seconds" or "point"
Blue Berry Waffles Hold My Beer
somewes: *tryhards for over 6000 attempts to break **4:55** record*
Cosmic: *beats it while playing for fun*
somewes: Am I a joke to you?
SERIOUSLY : ITS KOSMIC
yes
I mean somewes has the record again but that second break will always be Kosmic's
Cosmic: *yes*
Playing for fun is the key
6022 Marios were harmed in the making of this video.
MikeM8891 thats the revenge for the killed yoshis
The Mario's are not harmed they are killed...
cool cruze r/wooosh
+132 for the second set of attempts + all the others XD
Many bothans died to bring us this information
BREAKING: Kosmicd12 took the record back today with a 4:55.646. He beat tavenwebb2002's record by six frames, or a tenth of a second. Notably, the 8-4 in the run was the first one that was faster than a perfect 8-4 with no fast accelerations to be performed at the end of a world record run. (by five frames)
Tommy Dee also the 8-2 framerule bismuth pointed out to be never happening was performed by tavenwebb2002
ruclips.net/video/7Y0T5CLCKOs/видео.html
@@derehrenturke1126 Now, it is true that the framerule save was performed, but it will probably never be done in a real time run, as I am assuming he didn't just do it on his second try.
KrazyKyle1024 Games no not at all but it’s just nice to know because often Time saves are strats that are to difficult to pull off but after some Time when there nothing to Save they try to do it so the 8-2 might at some time lower the record
If he used glitches I don’t consider it a legit speedrun
I don't play or watch this game, but just watched a 30 minute video about it
Yeah a 30 min video about a run of 5 minutes. You know, they cud try to speed run the videos, there is a lot of room for records.
SAME.
sums up college
you never played SMB?
what an idiot
You can play this on an emulator if you're interested in playing it yourself.
Not to brag, but I've done a 4'53"...
4 hours.
53 minutes.
HA! Almost had me there for a second.
Lol
Well I actually got a 4’12”
4 days 12 hours with 30 minute breaks every 2 hours
ScientificallyNerdy I did a 3’08” 3 years and 8 months
@welp I did a 2'05"2 decades 5 years
this is one of the better edited and well researched videos i ever seen
but well-edited vids aren't as popular because all of the obnoxious loud fortniters screaming profanity into mics get all the views and viewtime.
@@ElfHostage yeah, the fact that actually good, very well made content doesn't get much attention is pretty sad.
how many frames does it take to explain?
Dude I get 4:54s every day. It's literally part of my morning routine - wake up, get a 4:54 SMB speedrun, open my eyes, have breakfast, start my day.
is this a joke
Yeah, me too. Some days I take out my lost levels cartridge and give that a whirl.
That's cute. I do three 4:54s and a warpless 17:45 every day in my lunch break, all while eating pizza and drinking coke.
I got a 2:43 by shifting into seventh gear before the game begins
@@alaeriia01 hahhahaha-
sometimes i think about trying out speedrunning, but then i see stuff like this and.. Nope.
I was astonished band amazed too
Yeah I don't have time to do it. I work too much. Must be nice to sit home and play Mario literally all day long. Either that or they work and never sleep and stay up for months at a time. Maybe drugs are involved? Lol
@@subzero8679 No doubt. I seen some runs that people play for days straight
speedrunning is not hard, it is beating the game in the fastest way possible, so as long as u can beat the game and u do it as fast as YOU can, its a speedrun
69 likes boiiiiiii
Legend says if you watch this full video you get an extra couple thousand brain cells
I'm losing those extra brain cells from reading comments of this video like yours, it balances out
Wow that was epic you just nae nae’d me
I rest my case
I don’t want to gain 1000 brain cells on a game that i cannot speedrun
This not the only way to get to the sacred forest. STOP BITCHING!
When the doctor tells you that you have four minutes and 55.796 seconds to live
unoriginal name That's pretty precise for a doctor...
unoriginal name more Like when the doctor tells you that you have 5 mins to live cause you gotta ask for the game and then start playing it
He means watching it
Flawless The turkey how do you know?
unoriginal name I sense hatred and a urge of someone trying to make me believe them through insults
On September 6th, 2023, The last framerule was finished in a RTA World Record by Niftski.
It's just amazing how they made a game this simple to so be incredibly complicated
Every simple game is complicated inside. Example: super smash bros
I don't understand how he did that... After he realized that he could actually get 4.55 he still did everything pretty much perfectly...
If I ever realized that I was going at a pace to beat the most impossible world record in the world, my hands would shake so frantically that they would starting phasing through objects like the Flash
Its called being in the zone. When the task ahead of you is sufficiently difficult yet you know that you can beat it.
how do they even measure their time down to the frame? I don't understand how their program works. Do they just hit a button at the exact time they finish?
@@leooooo6482 They record the gameplay its very easy to tell how long it has been from a video lol.
Petri Hakola shouldn’t be poppin off then. They can just tell or what?
@@leooooo6482 Last bowser or however is call that thing throws axes in a pattern depending when you start game and at what point you reach to him
1986: Is it even possible to beat the game in less than ten minutes?!
2002: Is sub 5:00 even possible?!
2018: 4:54 is probably possible if someone plays NEARLY perfectly...
2026: Yeah, 4:51 is definitely impossible.
2034: Really, there's no way to get a sub 4:50!
2050: THERE IS A WAY TO THEORETICALLY GET THE LEGENDARY 4:47!!!
2074: If only we could save one more framerule, we'd be able to get a sub 4:45...
2082: *Speedrunner gets a **4:44** in speedrun race of "Super Mario Bros." using new strategies unlike any before*
13076: Wow what how did you get a 1:42?
Edit: OMG THIS IS MY MOST LIKED COMMENT/REPLY EVER BY LIKE 140 LIKES OMG!!! Also lol I forgot about this reply so I just saw it today
Edit 2: lol not anymore
1985: I don't think that sub 5:00 is possible
King_Noah_
15689: Framerule saved! Theoretical limit now 33.335
8651430591740146194351743965178465014567436451436525481967435978146: We finally did it! 0:01 is possible!
Jesse Smith
30 seconds before the sun engulfs the earth: 0:00.35
kosmics gf: come over
kosmic: i cant im busy
her: im home alone
kosmic: ill be there in 4:55
I got there in 2:45 and tapped that ass. Too late Kosmic!!!!
Wtf
@@subzero8679 ha.
@@subzero8679 too late, i already did that in 1:13
YES 4:55 PERFECT SPEEDRUN
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO is good but NOOOOOOOOOOO
4:54 is perfect for NIFTY
There was so much effort put into this video, If anyone I'm glad it was you who got me into speedrunning
Game Joi what did you speedrun?
@@Vojingamer nothing really (good) yet but I watch a bunch and i recently started learning smb thanks to Bismuth and some others lol
Game Joi it's still very good how you decided to tackle it
Peach: can you come over
Mario: sorry but no
Peach:I’m in the castle alone
Mario:
Fishy Gaming *arrives at **4:54**.032*
@Super John64 lol Nintendo loser implying fortnite sucks
@@latioswarr3785 It does honestly.
@@latioswarr3785 Fortnite is a terrible game lmao, and its playerbase is mostly cringe little kids and idiotic man-childs.
TheGamingGuy Thank you!
I have never speedran or even watched a speed run but I found myself watching this until the end intensely lmao goodjob
It's pretty awesome how this video, despite only being less than two years old, is already incredibly outdated. TAS 8-2 is easier than pl8-1 now and VERY viable for runs. Hopefully we'll see a 4:54 in the next year or two
That's awesome
With the amount of mess ups they made I see it happening
@@T.Gundham who's mess ups?
@@SirTylerGolf WhO dO yOU ThiNK
@@T.Gundham I have no idea who, that's why I asked you
I spent more than 5 minutes just trying to guess the timing of piranha plant
I heard todd Roger's got a 4:54 by starting the game in 1-2
Same I saw that on the onion, i was proud for the guy.
Pretty sure the only reason this doesn’t have more likes is cos most people won’t understand the reference
He was a cheater
@@cameronbuchanan-smith2615 i appeciate that Lmao
LMAO
Scientists: You guys ready to go to the moon?
Other Scientists: Nah, were speedrunning mario
coz why not?
go to the moon?......smog will get us pretty soon.
We should speedrun moon and back
“It took over 6000 attempts to achieve this record”
Geometry dash players: “pathetic”
Im a gd player,nice to meet ya
me too
@@ricardosdmkk me too on mobile, 5655 on clubstep :)
Orochi: amateurs
I'm a gd player and that's right
Very well presented. I especially like the summary of the various limits at 28:17.
The quality of this video and the time you must have spent making it is UNREAL
Awesome video and awesome content bro youre amazing
You know a speedrun is hardcore when every frame counts
I mean its a 35 years old game soo
I'm sorry that I liked the comment so now the likes are 70
I mean, that's EVERY speedrun ever
SMB1 is probably one of the few games this optimized where NOT every frame counts, because of the frame rules.
@@Gamer2k4 Well every frame counts, as even a single frame can save an entire frame rule in certain levels. And in 8-4, every frame counts as no frame rules apply in that level.
You gotta feel bad for somewes, he did over 6k attempts trying to get 4:55 and then Kosmic casually tries to get 4:55 and then gets it second try
At least somewes temporarily got the record back
Lmao
@henry t did you film it? No? Didnt happen.
@Rob F who told you that one
@henry t fake
Mom: We leave in 4 minutes and 55 seconds
somewes:
Azathoth somewes: MAWM JUST THREE MORE FRAMERULES, GOD YOUR ANNOYING
nice
No 4 hours 55mins
455 likes
That final bridge graphic is really effective and well made. Thank you for that.
Todd Rogers got a 4:51 he started in 4th world using a glitch. It was a actual video but a coffee stain got on the final time
Eduardo Lopez Oh that would make more sense, I don’t follow the Mario speedrunning community that much so I don’t know all the facts.
@@eduardozepol2000 starting in world 2 isnt slower because this is todd rogers we're talking about, he probably started in 7th gear to access the 4-2 warpzone from 2-1's coin heaven
after examining the software it was determined such a glitch isn't even possible in the code. In response, he says "you weren't there."
They underestimate the human element.
Yea Coffees ruin everything
So, speedrunners spend all their time in games trying not to spend time in games?
Whoa
r/technicallythetruth
big brain
No, no, no hes got a point
yes
I understood nothing in the video, but i feel like i'm getting smarter
My constant state of mind at school
You're actually getting dumber. This video is completely useless.
if you swallow me milk you get smarter tho @kaoro
You watch video about beating video game fast, you don't even manage to perform it. So you don't actually get smarter.
@@thecipher8495 You're not Albert Einstein.
I bet that dude with 6k attempts was pissed
Why he has the WR
Nah he's a sweetheart
@@katacutie Seriously. Wes is a nice guy. Then you have Kosmic, who's kind of an arrogant prick. If they ever made a movie, we know which one's Daniel and which one's Johnny. Lol.
Jim Nicholson you talking about the original or the reboot series?
@@jpeg7082 Lol, the original. Before they made Daniel a pain in the ass. Well, more of a pain in the ass then he already was. (Hiwever, the Cobra Kai series was awesome.)
Mom: time to go
Me: five more minutes
Beats the whole entire Mario game.
Took you 5 mins? Noob, it took me a frame less.
Everybody is a noob ,-,
I’m sorry this was a continuous joke 😂
I did not read the comment section haha
#MostRelatableCommentAward
"and If is the legendary 4:54 even possible"
It was. It was indeed, my friend
By the way, a 4:53 is possible in Super Mario Bros. Extended! Watch the TAS here!
ruclips.net/video/MJgLHFj6r1Q/видео.html
@@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn ruclips.net/video/BLUkgRAy_Vo/видео.html&ab_channel=hiimhaash
*When you remember that video games were made for entertainment*
Now they're the reason deodorant was invented
So are sports.
@@aeroslothy Underrated comment lmao
Shigeru Miyamoto is like "what the fuck"
I'm very entertained lol
6022 attempts...
*Avogadro Intensifies*
Interestingly, the value of Avogadro's constant was fixed today. (16/11/2018)
@@sugandhakohli coincidence? I think not
SK was it?
@@inigotarrus8144 Yes, its no longer defined by a physical object, before the defenition of a kilogram was the mass of an object stored in france, in a vault, that object is exatly 1 kg, because that was what defined the kg, but that object's mass was changing, so we needed to make it a constant
So now the kg doesnt change
This means that avogrados doesnt change either, because the defenition was the amount of atoms in 12 grams of carbon-12, the gram is 1/1000 of kg, so now its fixed because so is the kg
“Exactly two frames later, jump”
Can someone explain how tf I’m supposed to fuckihg count the frames in my game
Subpixels are much harder, trust me ive tried for 10 hours now. And havent ducceeded a single time.
Very carefully.
That's actually the easiest part of fpg. You basically just do the second input slightly after the first one, almost as fast as you can (almost to avoid jumping one frame later). It gets into muscle memory really quick, so that you almost always get the second frame-perfect input when you get the first one.
Are you telling me you CAN’T count to 60 in one second? Smh
You dont, you sit down and watch people that are skilled at it do it.
If summoning salt is history, then bismuth is science.
he was wrong though, TAS 8-2 was used in a run and 4:54 actually seems viable now!
@@slm0nw174 this was 2 years ago...
@@lightwhited47 the video was about whether 4:54 seems possible at all. time has nothing to do with that
@@slm0nw174 he didn’t have the information to accurately predict it. You can’t expect him to predict the future using information that didn’t exist. Time has everything to do with it
@@blamingskill1146 4:54 is now history! It happened!!!
Very well-made video. My prediction for future SMB real-time speedrunning would be frame war in 8-4. I don't think trying that 8-1 framerule save in a real run is possible unless we have a robotic-precision input player someday. My 4-2 framerule save solution is also not feasible in a real run, but would be fun to see someone actually go for it. It requires no more frame-perfect inputs than the 8-1 framerule save. That "releasing right for 1 frame" approach is how I calculated to do that wall clip perfectly, but one can do it slightly less perfectly because unlike 8-1, you'll have 3 frames to spare (or more with backward acceleration).
I did notice that it had 3 frames to spare. That can be especially useful for the pipe entry.
@@Bismuth9 Even if the pipe entry was slower, one can maybe choose to gain more frames to spare with backward acceleration. The hardest part is the corner clip, but the good news is it's right from the beginning, so one can try thousands of times with it and hopefully maybe succeed once in a while.
I found out by reproducing the inputs to get a smooth capture and a timeline to display inputs correctly. It's definitely not happening in a real run, and to think it would be required for 4:54...
Is there any chance you could provide us with a set of inputs which is more user-friendly but has 0 frames to spare? Also could you point out the parts of your current 4-2 solution that must be frame perfect?
If I have the time I might actually look into it myself as well. I don't know if Sockbot could be put to good use for the block clip specifically?
800 years later
2 second world record
not possible lol
Yoga Raihan it’s a joke kiddo
@@jay4vrschemin more like 4:54.98
Yoga Raihan cool idc
@@jay4vrschemin you're saying he's a kiddo but you have fortnite pfp 😂😂😂
This video and its predecessor are so good. I understand ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about speedruns. It's as close to magic to me as makes no difference. But you've managed to explain everything about this particular set of tricks and glitches in a way that's so accessible I actually get it, while at the same time making it clear how difficult, testing, and even sometimes unsolveable without sheer luck or bloody-minded persistence it can be. I actually understand what's going on here, and that means I can see why it's so impressive. Thank you so much for making that. (And much respect to Kosmic and somewes.)
Short answer: yes, 4:54 is possible, as proven today..
Aren't the runners damn near playing like TAS at this point?
dude almost that
TAS?
@@MeatSlap30 TAS: Tool Assisted Speedrun, basically letting a computer do everything
The robot uprising has been postponed
@@MeatSlap30 watch the video at 19:53 it explains well
1895: There will never be a sub 4 min mile
2019: There will never be a sub 4 min super Mario run.
Ross Catto
lol sub 4:54 won’t even happen
@speedrunner784 I wouldn’t count out a TAS 2 min run thanks to memory manipulation or something
@@Danstry it will one day
GoldenKoble not unless some major new strategy is found. Even the TAS can’t do that.
Sub 1 minute could legit be possible if arbitrary code execution is found. That's how games like pokemon red, ocarina of time and super mario world have extremely short speedruns with absolutely gamebreaking shit like warp to credits.
Why do all speedrun documentaries make me tear up at the end ;-;
Amazing vídeo
I only know this one and the zelda ww barriere glitch one , do you have some others for me ?
Check out Summoming Salt
Cause you're a goddamn snowflake
@@JLynn9880 DAMN LIBTARDS
After watching a video about that fake Badabun speed run, it is nice seeing an actual speed runner actually achieve a real record.
Todd Rogers could run it in 4:51
Billy mays would be done in just 2 minutes!
@Aura Gunner shamwow would complete it in 5!
A great comment slowly killed by dumb responses ha
My mom could run it in 0:02
These fools have never played Atari.
4:54 IS THEORITICALLY POSSIBLE! 8-2 TAS FRAMERULE HAS BEEN PERFORMED IN PRACTICE!!
And it has done in a real-time speedrun.
Anyone else wondering why they are watching this lol
yep LUL
Just appeared in my fucking front page and watched 30 minutes of this. lol.
it's currently 1.20am and I have no idea what I'm doing with my life.
To be fair, at least I skipped some of it, but I still wasted well over ten minutes of my life.
Because I’m high
This guy is the guy that knows how to get the world record, and knows every little bit about the game. He just cant pull it off himself
he guides others to a treasure which he cannot possess
@@Seelecrose I'm glad you made that joke.
@@Seelecrose dayum bro *(in the voice of "no full auto in building bro")*
YES 4:55 PERFECT SPEEDRUN
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO is good but NOOOOOOOOOOO
4:54 is perfect for NIFTY
He is essentially an analytics specialist. And great at informational writing.
You frame his inability to grab a record as a negative and that’s kind of disingenuous. (You watched this video, for example, yet you can’t pull it off yourself. See what I mean?)
He’s also not *trying* to get records. While I can’t speak for him, his interests seem to fall in line to help people who *dont* speedrun understand just how impressive some of these feats are, and how incredibly rewarding and helpful TAS runs can be.
His talents and ability to create are entirely
That moment when a video talking about the speedrun has more views than the actual speedrun
That ending part at 28:24 showing all the records really put everything into perspective. I think the only way 4:54 will happen live on a speedrun is if someone finds another method somewhere since it's really not possible with the current run.
It would be really interesting to see an image like that but going all the way back to andrewg's 5:00.6
You see, I can't even beat this game normally
Since the release of this video the record has been improved 4 times - 4:55.746 by tavenweb2002, 4:55.646 by Kosmic, 4:55.430 by Niftski and now Miniland with 4:55.314.
Mini land got a 230
4:54.948 by niftski
4:54.881 by niftski
By the way, a 4:53 is possible in Super Mario Bros. Extended! Watch the TAS here!
ruclips.net/video/MJgLHFj6r1Q/видео.html
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BREAKING: tavenwebb2002 just saved the framerule in World 8-2 in real time and tied the TAS in that level. The SoB has officially dipped into 4:54 territory.
"Not Happening" .......Ask Taven what he thinks about that. 😁
Taven says it’s not happening (in a full game run)
edit (28/07/2020): way to eat my words lol 4:54 / 8-2 is 100% happening thanks to kriller37
Kosmicd has now taken back the throne with an astonishing 4:54.646!
Muustillhere 4:55 not 4:54
@@rammuu However, Niftski and Miniland took the throne away from him. Sorry, Kosmic. It is nice for you to rule, but they had to overthrow you. I hope you could win the throne again, Kosmic.
amazing video! I was there when the first 4:55 was achieved, it was amazing, No one expected it, even kosmic wasnt taking it seriously, what ended up in a legendary run having way too many jokes in it, but think it just made it better haha
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR A NEW UPLOAD FOR SO LONG FINALLY