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  • @julieelliott9797
    @julieelliott9797 11 часов назад +7

    All the Stick of Joseph episodes that talk about the temple are coming together like pieces of a magnificent puzzle.

  • @belenharris8174
    @belenharris8174 17 часов назад +12

    The more I learn about God, the more I realize I know so little ❤
    Everyone likes to say "I know where I'm going when I die" and I don't understand that.
    I have no idea. My brain can't comprehend Heaven. I trust my Savior and Heavenly Father to know where I belong.
    Meanwhile, I just keep seeking.

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    @AndrewJames-du2wf 17 часов назад +31

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      @MrJfrostGoodluck1 17 часов назад +1

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  • @BrandonEdwards-v9g
    @BrandonEdwards-v9g 14 часов назад +2

    🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 incredible content!!!

  • @Jsinebdjsmdbej
    @Jsinebdjsmdbej 14 часов назад +4

    7:45 salvation is knowledge, knowledge is salvation. joseph smith preached gnosis, as long as the covenants do not serve that higher goal, they mean nothing. a lot of members are terrified that if they delve into the mysteries that they will get lost, but they are lost by failing to seek them, which is given to us to do by commandment.

    • @ericredd5590
      @ericredd5590 13 часов назад

      @@Jsinebdjsmdbej I think I understand what you are trying to say, but knowledge is not salvation.
      Here we are on this earth and cannot trust 90% of what we hear or read.
      Everyone these days is telling us that even our prophets and apostles are just men and can and have gotten things wrong.
      Even these guys have nothing more than their philosophies mingled with a few scriptures.
      We have no clue about God/creator and each one of us is creating our own version of him as we go along.
      Even JS after the first vision prepared the Lectures on Faith that teach God is a personage of spirit.
      He was making it up. While the Lectures on Faith were still in the canonized scripture, JS taught the King Follett discourse and said that God was once a man and so on back infinitely.
      The church after teaching we would be gods and have our own planets, now says we will not. (At least from the Mormon newsroom) I have heard RMN revert back to teaching it in spite of the newsrooms answer to gospel questions to the contrary.
      Then BY taught that Adam was God. If you think this confusion leads to salvation you are mistaken.
      Jesus says he is the author and finisher of our salvation.
      I have hope in Him. I do not have hope in temple work or in lay members mingling their philosophies with scripture.
      The BOM use to teach that the Lamanites were the principle ancestors of the Native Americans. Now they are not not so sure and removed the teaching from the BOM.

    • @MichaelSaline
      @MichaelSaline Час назад

      Correct!

  • @mark.pinnell
    @mark.pinnell 11 часов назад +2

    What about the Polar Configuration, the source of the symbolism?

  • @trobo670
    @trobo670 17 часов назад +4

    D&C:84
    19 And this greater priesthood administereth the gospel and holdeth the key of the mysteries of the kingdom, even the key of the knowledge of God.
    20 Therefore, in the ordinances thereof, the power of godliness is manifest.
    21 And without the ordinances thereof, and the authority of the priesthood, the power of godliness is not manifest unto men in the flesh;
    22 For without this no man can see the face of God, even the Father, and live.

  • @iknovate
    @iknovate 3 часа назад

    I keep waiting for the day that I see a circle of light coming off of the hands of those gathered in the holy order of prayer!

  • @c.douglass8170
    @c.douglass8170 Час назад

    Is faith an ordinance?

  • @godsoffspring4195
    @godsoffspring4195 17 часов назад +3

    Milk to meat for the same reason we don't teach gr. two students the theory of relativity. 😆

    • @zenvis
      @zenvis 15 часов назад +1

      I was a primary teacher for 10 years, and I was so careful to keep up with a talk on milk subjects, letting the students discover meat moments. I had such good students.

  • @Misa_Susaki
    @Misa_Susaki 10 часов назад +1

    I can't believe how many anti-temple people flock to these videos. This new wave of "Book of Mormon only"-ism is disturbing. Mormon Protestants. Sola Book of Mormon! 😢

  • @westonwoodbury3011
    @westonwoodbury3011 17 часов назад

    The Book of Mormon consistently talks about the Aaronic priesthood zero times, this should be a red flag for the book of Moses and the Bible teachings on it. Hemlock knots has some great stuff on how this corruption of the p source of the Bible is the only source where this narrative of Aaron being Moses brother, all the older sources show him as nothing more then an Idol worshipper, the priestly source made them selfs tied into all the money changing and sacrifices in the temple it was advantageous to change the narrative of there lineage. Book of Mormon to the rescue. The temple was destroyed in the bom and Christ the resurrected lord came to them on the temple destroyed, signifying he was the new temple built back up . The temple’s were never mentioned again post Jesus.
    - kirtland temple day of Pentecost and Christ visitation never happened, Moses Elijah and Elias never happened. How do we know?because of what was said by those who attended. Joseph or his scribes never mentioned it in his life time. Joseph in the Doc always speaks of Elijah as a future event so how could it happen in 1829, when even as late as 1840’s he spoke of it happening someday in the future? Bible nerds know Elijah and Elias are the same person, the Greek way of saying name vs The Hebrew. So how could both come if they’re the same person? Big oversight for who ever added it in.
    Oliver Cowdrey never mentioned this happening either, the narrative didn’t come until they were dead, this is the pattern for much of Joseph’s alleged history. Oliver gave an extensive report the next day of the dedication the only report he gave of any angels was saying somebody else said an Angel sat next to Joseph smith senior! No mention of Jesus or past prophets.
    - David Whitmer was also there and called it a “grand fizzle a trumped up yarn” he was there and a very honorable man by all accounts, no one had anything but good to say of him. He said there was no angels no Jesus Christ, Apostles William McLellin said people had been drinking too much, trying to pronounce blessings on heads.
    - can we stop making the ordinance the thing? and make christ the thing, tapart from him this is all dead! The bom only mentions one ordinance the only one we need ! If we could get that one right we would have the powers of heaven on our side.See teacher in Zion channel on temples, Book of Mormon believers, wake up.

  • @AlbertJLouie
    @AlbertJLouie 2 часа назад

    DO MORMONS HAVE A PRIESTHOOD?
    In the opening sentences of the Book of Revelation, John the Apostle makes an astounding statement when he declares:
    "Blessing and peace to you from him who is, and was, and is coming, and from the seven spirits before his throne and from Jesus Christ, the trustworthy witness, the first born of the dead, the sovereign of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and has released us from our sins by his own blood--he has made us a kingdom of priests for His God and Father--to him be glory and power forever" (Goodspeed, verses 4-6).
    How incisive is this plain declaration by apostolic authority, Jesus Christ who is the sovereign of the kings of the earth, the one who continues to love us and who has released us from our sins through His own blood, has also made us "a kingdom of priests for His God and Father." Here is the true priesthood indeed.
    The Christian does not need any temples, secret services, rituals and mysteries. His priesthood knows no special offices and power to communicate with the dead, something which the Mormon priesthood most definitely claims (See Leaves from the Tree, a catechism for young people by Mormon leader Charles Penrose, p.38). The Christian priesthood embraces all those who have been loosed from their sins by the Blood of Jesus Christ, and who enjoy the perpetual love of the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.
    This concept is further developed in the writings of Peter, who affirms that:
    "You are the chosen race, the "royal priesthood," the consecrated nation, his own people, so that you may declare the virtues of him who has called you out of darkness into his wonderful light; you who were once no people, but are now God's people; once unpitied, but now pitied indeed..." (I PETER 2:9 and 10, Goodspeed).
    In this context, the words of the apostle establish that long before there were any mythological Mormon priesthoods, there is a priesthood embracing all redeemed, a "royal priesthood," neither Aaronic nor Melchizedek. This priesthood is composed of all consecrated "ambassadors for Christ," to quote the Apostle Paul, whose task it is to exhort men to "be reconciled to God," "knowing the terror of the Lord" (II Corinthians 5:20 and 11).
    As has been observed, Mormonism places great stress upon the priesthood. But as we have also seen, it is not the priesthood described in the Scriptures. Instead they have substituted the revelation of "Prophet" Smith concerning a priesthood which has been changed (Hebrews 7:12) and a priesthood which by its nature is "untransferable" (7:24). The resulting dilemma is that they have no priesthood at all since their denial of the true Deity of Jesus Christ and the nature of God rules out the possibility that they could share in the priesthood of all believers. In order for one to be one of the "kingdom of priests for His God and Father" (Revelation 1:4-6) and a member of the "royal priesthood" (I PETER 2:9, 10), one must first have undergone personal regeneration in a saving encounter or experience with the God-Man of Scripture--Jesus Christ. Mormon theology with its pantheon of gods, its perverted view of the Virgin Birth, and its outright condemnation of all churches as an "abomination" (Joseph Smith--History 1:19), removes itself from serious consideration as a form of Christianity. There is more to Christianity than the application of the Christian ethnic. There is a great deal more to the Gospel than the similarity of terms, albeit redefined. Christianity is not just a system of doctrinal pronouncements (though they are of vast importance). It is a living vital experience with the God of the Bible as He was incarnate in the man from Nazareth. Mormonism with its many doctrinal vagaries and outright denials of historic Christian teachings, disqualifies itself. And its priesthood, on which it places so much emphasis, is shown to be the antithesis of the divine revelation.

    • @MichaelSaline
      @MichaelSaline 5 минут назад

      Have you ever read the new testament? If you stop picking out all the special little verses that you evangelicals like and actually read the whole thing, then you might realize that all of Paul’s teachings were an attempt to keep the church in that day from going apostate. In fact, in 2 Thessalonians 2:2-3 he clearly states Christ will not return until after there has been a “falling away”! What do you think that means that means? the church they established at that time becomes corrupted and there “words” and “works” (verse 17, the whole chapter is about the falling away, I would say from the things the resurrected Lord taught them over the 40 days he was with them, that we have no record of.) Here is a clue the word “works” has 2 meanings, works of men are evil, and works of god are ordinances.) there is something to study. James2 the whole chapter is about doing “the works of God” by faith. As opposed to the works of men that do not save. James makes it clear that faith alone is not enough. And neither are works. The book Mormon explains why these sacred Works are not discussed. And why one must use faith to discover them.
      Our invitation is for you to let go your bias, and stop following those false Prophets (who have 47,000 church’s all of their own in the Christian world,) and come and listen to God‘s living prophet. That Brings up another question doesn’t it? Why would God warn us about false prophets unless his true profits were on the earth? and his true church would be just as persecuted and belittled as his original church was. Something to consider there!

  • @AlbertJLouie
    @AlbertJLouie 2 часа назад

    MORMONS ARE WRONG ABOUT THE APOSTASY.
    If Smith was right about the Apostasy, then was Jesus a failure when it came to establishing His Church? NO...after all, what are we to think of His promises? If there really was a complete apostasy, how do we explain our Lord's claim that his church never would be overcome, "upon this rock I will build My church, and read the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it..." (Matthew 16:18). What about His promise that He would be with His Church until the end of time (Matthew 28:20)? What about His promise to send the Holy Spirit as a guide who would abide with the church (John 14:16, 26)? What about the about the Holy Spirit guiding the church into all truth (John 16:13)?
    A key difficulty for Mormons is they can't say exactly when the apostasy took place, nor can they point point to any historical evidence of it. Other than Smith's claims there is only an interior feeling or testimony on which Mormons can base their beliefs, but such subjective proof proves nothing.

  • @ericredd5590
    @ericredd5590 16 часов назад +1

    The BOM teaches that Jesus employs no servant “there” meaning at the gate lest they be deceived.
    This contradicts the temple ordinance where we learn handshakes, signs, and tokens in order to pass angels and sentinels.
    The BOM is a second witness of Jesus Christ and yet the temple has ordinances that go against its teaching and supplant Jesus as the gate keeper he states he is.
    Speculation, conjecture, and ultimately BS.

    • @Tooth-Gnasher
      @Tooth-Gnasher 15 часов назад +1

      There are other scriptures that give context to 2 Nephi 9:41 and even the verse itself describes a straight course that must be taken indicating there is more than one gate that must be past through. D&C 76 describes at least three kingdoms with their entrances, and if you apply 2 Nephi 31:17 to that context you see that baptism of water is but the first gate which sets you on the straight course that Christ Himself followed that pass through the higher kingdoms to the end. If you recall, Christ didn't stop after being baptized by water, He completed His whole baptismal covenant which continued down the strait and narrow path, a course that took Him through the baptism of fire which have been symbolized in the sacrifices and offerings signified by fire and burnt offerings that the law of Moses typified of Christ's ultimate sacrifice and redemption. The temple endowment perfectly and symbolically takes us through His fiery redemption in similitude of it. Christ said in 2 Ne 31:12 "do the things ye have seen me do", as each ordinance of the temple is administered to us on the same symbolic altars Christ offered Himself on. Christ having fulfilled the old covenant through His redemption was then able to bring forth His new and everlasting covenant having rent the old veil (cherubim and the flaming sword) that kept us from God, Christ now stands in it's place, He is that final gate and employs no other servant there, and will answer those who endure, knock and desire to enter into His Father's presence. He alone will determine if they have completed the same path He took.
      I pray you will not be deceived and stop too early on your journey. Don't be content and stop at a lesser kingdom, a lesser gate.

    • @ericredd5590
      @ericredd5590 13 часов назад +1

      @ you have your own interpretation that you have crafted. Who are the angels and sentinels that Jesus now employs at the gate?
      And why would a savior who suffered bled and died for us, employ someone who does not know us at all let alone our like our savior?
      The second anointing removes the need for the savior entirely. Men grant other men salvation and declare them clean from the blood and sins of this generation and unless the commit murder they are promised salvation.
      The LDS temple has nothing to do with the gospel Jesus sent his apostles to teach.

    • @Tooth-Gnasher
      @Tooth-Gnasher 11 часов назад

      @@ericredd5590 D&C 1 tells us who the servants, angels and messengers Christ has called to minister to us. Paul said to the Ephesians (4:11-13) that Christ gave us Apostles and prophets and other servants. It is to them He reveals His word to, and that do His work and perform His ministry so that we (the Church) wouldn't be "tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;". To not follow His chosen servants is making flesh your arm, which is walking in your own way (and interpretation), and after the image of your own god, whose image is in the likeness of the world, (D&C 1:16).
      There is order in the ordinances of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. To receive a fullness of all you must receive the promise from each member of the Godhead through making covenants and receiving the ordinances associated with them. A baptism each of water, Fire and Holy Ghost which leads a person to be born of water, blood and Spirit. Anything more or less is not the Gospel of Christ. One may receive the baptism of water outside the temple, but as John said, "He..., who, coming after me, is preferred before me, whose shoe’s latchet I am not worthy to unloose or whose place I am not able to fill; for he shall baptize, not only with water, but with fire and with the Holy Ghost." John held the lesser or Aaronic priesthood, Christ the greater priesthood. John's baptism of water is an outward or outside the temple ordinance, Christ's baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost are the spiritual or inward ordinances administered through the greater Melchizedek priesthood inside the temple of the Lord.
      Christ's redemption was both physical (temporal) with His body, beaten, torn, suffering, bleeding and put to death, but it is His spiritual redemption, the infinite and eternal atonement He made for each of us that provides the salvation that makes it all possible for Him to cover our sins and brings us out of our spiritual death. It is this spiritual baptism that He administers in His Father's house. We must symbolically leave this world and enter His to attain unto it and has everything to do with the fullness of the Gospel Jesus Christ restored to His apostle Joseph Smith.

    • @iknovate
      @iknovate 2 часа назад +1

      ​@@ericredd5590Then you have missed all of the instructions on the Bible outlining the need for ordinances, all of which are obtained in a 'temple'. Just because you don't believe something doesn't make it not true, or absolves you from it's requirement.

    • @ericredd5590
      @ericredd5590 2 часа назад +1

      @@iknovateyou are confused and lost in false teachings.
      The Bible does teach that the Lord dwells not in temples made with hands.
      If you believe that Masonic rituals in LDS temples will lead you to salvation by learning signs and tokens to give to angels and sentinels you are mistaken.

  • @eveadame1059
    @eveadame1059 17 часов назад

    ✡️🦁EZEKIEL 37:16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:

  • @AlbertJLouie
    @AlbertJLouie 2 часа назад

    THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PROPHETS OF THE BIBLE AND MORMON PROPHETS.
    Mormons prophets cannot make changes to doctrine that God already established.
    For example:
    *The Divine Nature of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit (the Trinity)
    *The Deity of Jesus Christ (God the Son 2nd person of the Trinity)
    *The Biblical definition of the Virgin Birth of Jesus
    *Being saved by grace through faith, not of works
    *God did not sent any angel from heaven to Joseph Smith (GALATIANS 1:6-9)
    *Mormons cannot be god's (Isaiah 43:10 & 45:5)
    *God had NOTHING to do with a Mormon curse on all Blacks.

  • @FleeingBabylon-Now
    @FleeingBabylon-Now 16 часов назад

    It does not lead to God in any way and it is for sure not meat. Unless you follow Egyptian gods, or Babylonian. Really can you not see who started that. Just look at the Kirkland House of the Lord and it's uses and function and compare to Nauvoo and onward under others. That was the only "temple" that Joseph built and used.

    • @Misa_Susaki
      @Misa_Susaki 10 часов назад +5

      This is simply not historically supported.
      We know for a fact, for example, that Joseph performed the first rendition of the Endowment in the upper floor of the Red Brick Store.
      We know Joseph was a Mason, and we know for a fact that this played a role in the restoration of the Endowment.
      We know for a historical fact that Joseph himself said that the Kirtland temple was a preparatory temple with a lower Priesthood function.
      I don't know why there are so many new Apostates preaching against the temple and Joseph Smith, but it's scary. You won't find truth kicking against the pricks.

    • @FleeingBabylon-Now
      @FleeingBabylon-Now 4 часа назад

      @ That’s ok. You have not studied it except through approved sources. I 100% trust Joseph just not what was done after he was taken out. Those things you say are facts are not. Joseph had one wife Emma. Only one wife. Period.

    • @Misa_Susaki
      @Misa_Susaki 57 минут назад +1

      @@FleeingBabylon-Now You're wrong about what you're assuming about me. I've gone through paths that have taken me away from the church and back again. You can't just hand-wave me away by assuming that I only look at "approved sources", whatever that's supposed to mean. I also trust Joseph, which is why I accept things like the Temple, and D&C 132.

    • @FleeingBabylon-Now
      @FleeingBabylon-Now 47 минут назад

      @@Misa_Susaki I am not assuming anything. I made a post. You commented to say I was wrong. If you think Joseph had multiple wives then I do not see how you trust Joseph. He and Hyrum only ever taught monogamy their whole lives to the day they died. Monogamy was even in D&C as sec 101 until removed years later. Look up the talk at conference 2 months before Hyrum's death about that damn fool doctrine. He does not hold back saying even the devil would be embarrassed over polygamy. Just saying that if you believe Joseph was a polygamist you are calling him a bold faced liar.

  • @AnnieWinter148
    @AnnieWinter148 17 часов назад +1

    Yeah! A shorter video that I have time for.

  • @isisavila4672
    @isisavila4672 17 часов назад

    I wonder how much you guys hear and watch your own episodes, because the whole Book of Mormon it’s about the Temple and Joseph Smith knew it soooo much about the Temple but just those who have their eyes and hears trained and initiated in the same Order can understand… btw, D&C 84 it’s about the Temple, there isn’t priesthood offices there, there is not instructions about the administration of the priesthood, so it’s not the Ecclesiastical Order, so go and study the Patriarchal/Enoch/Familial Order of the Priesthood - the Temple.