It’s just so strange because my family is huge and the frequency I hear non-management relatives say, “yeah we need this position filled but nobody knows how to do X anymore” is astounding.
Had a kid fresh out of uni present us with a solid game design portfolio. Sent him a test, passed it with flying colors. Sent him and offer and then fired his ass one week in because he couldn’t do shit and was color blind… it was a vfx + 3D modeler position. It’s crazy how dumb and dishonest some of these kids can be.
@@justgary2471 Did you ever figure out where he stole his portfolio from and how he passed the test? Edit: Also, firing someone for being colorblind is a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) btw.
Majored at a top 20 US college, double majored in data science and astrophysics, interned in PE and at NASA. >100 job apps and have gotten a single follow up
@@workingsmile3836 Joining the military is literally selling your body, and to send out 1000 applications you need some form of automation which is part of the whole problem.
Are we cooked chat ? I mean, you guys are, I'm doing an engineering degree at a good university, so guess who'll be able to have a semi steady job as a janitor !!! Either that or I join the Russian military :'D Edit: Came back from a math class, I'm cooked chat
@@johng8837 both my parents are in "manager" sort of positions at their companies and they told me managers will just throw out resumes if they see one thing wrong in a split second scan
6 months in the job search, I ran down my savings -10k, and I even interviewed at a couple cafes recently. Good thing my luck turned around and I’m in final rounds with 4 companies, holy fuck the luck is real. Any biotech bros getting laid off/cant find work, wishing u good luck
@@Eddd1e honestly im no guru, but the more effort u put into a job posting that makes you think “bro i can do this”, the better. Of course I shoot a dozen easy apply’s on LinkedIn, but for the ones I want I update the resume with keywords found in the JD and I network to try and get an angle in. Oh also, play jungle in league, hit plat, have an existential crisis, the usual
After 6 months, I’m also getting lucky. I secured an offer and might get one in the coming weeks for different companies. It all happened at once, after months of trying.
@@Eddd1eall of my most promising companies happened through people I know or have connections to. Reach out to everyone you know asking for leads. Eventually, you’ll get a lead who is actually good, and you might go far.
@@Eddd1e just gotta keep running the marathon that is job searching. It will be annoying, soul crushing, and genuinely horrible (due to repeated rejection). But i would say, focus on jobs that you think you’re well aligned with skill-wise and put a lot more effort into those applications (updated resume w keywords they mention, network with some current employees) Also queue up jungle and hit plat, have an existential crisis, u know the vibes
Not saying the labour market is healthy, but I would guess that the rapid "jobs/unemployment" subReddit growth rates Atrioc showed are primarily reflective of layoffs in tech, rather than across the economy. There's been a lot of tech layoffs, and tech guys are super overrepresented on Reddit.
+ large subreddits are “mature” which means that the rate of growth will be much slower. However Atrioc just mention they are “interesting” and not definitive. I’d say it’s clearly circumstantial evidence
False. The economy is the worst it’s been since the 70s. We have the white collar jobs going to Latin America and Eastern Europe. The entry level jobs that existed 20 years ago are gone.
If I were to be reborn again, I would still get into Comp Sci. Only difference is that I'll actually get connected to people/company that'll give good wage. This work is really about connections to the top.
I'd just be reborn as a child of a hedge fund manager and an intellectual property lawyer. Become an AI crypto artist and have lobbyists buy my pieces when one of my parents eventually gets into politics.
It's a tough time for Engineering graduates. It's a tough time for Comp Sci graduates. Dog I graduated from an Electrical Engineering / Comp Sci double degree and I've spent the last year getting nothing but rejection emails, I fucking hate this
@@hypermiraclepositivegirl2415 probably india or other poor country where salaries are low and where western countries move their operations to save costs
@@hypermiraclepositivegirl2415 I work in EU and i got a job relatively fast, like 1 month after graduating. And I also didn't really apply to that many companies, i may have applied 50 times total. and maybe 40 times in NA and like 10-15 times in my country.
Back in high school I remember talking to people saying: “they keep telling me there will be infinite cs jobs but if everyone goes into it now won’t there be a shortage?” They told me: “no there will be it is growing exponentially” Now there is a shortage of construction workers and I will be unemployed - although it sounds like I might have a spot in construction
Reddit cutting off the api access to track things like this is a perfect example of companies taking knowledge away because it doesn't benefit their bottom line. Such a valuable metric for telling stories like this and we've lost it arbitrarily. We don't get to know.
After 3 layoffs at agencies and only occasionally getting gig work, I made a game on Steam for some side money. I'd highly recommend people looking for work to also work on their own projects.
Companies had bloated structures often had more engineers and managers than blue collar workers and its not sustainable in long term. Young people were fed lies that being a cs major or engineering majors is a guarantee for a high salary. There are too many graduates than the market needs, also the quality of the graduates is really poor. Add that to an economic crisis that usa is in right now and you get what we have right now. Supply and demand at its finest.
Add H1B visa usage to that. I lived in a nice apartment building with an entire community of Indian people, great people I got some amazing food. All of them were there worked as tech workers at companies down the road. This was in Pittsburgh…..
I mean.. I got into CS and engineering cuz I liked math and computers. I was told I was going to make bank. Now I won't but I just want to live and not hate my job.
God, I wish I could just quit civilization like that. Can't do that in America, because almost all of the land is privately owned, And it's only a matter before you're found and forced to evict the premesis.
I enjoy hearing you talk about the job market. I’m early 20s out of college and am seeing it everywhere and it’s not talked about as if it’s a large scale problem. As if everyone’s issues are unrelated.
I have an Ivy League degree in STEM (I had full need based financial aid not some legacy) I couldn't find a job that looked half way decent (never had the money for a car while a full time student so couldn't just work for free at an internship) so for now I just gave up looking (discouraged worker) and instead play and flip trading cards for money to pay for food while I live at home with my family. I also low rolled an incurable disease where the drugs I take to keep it from killing me have a small but real chance of giving me the cancer that killed my father when I was 3 - so low paying (but enough to bump me of Medicaid) monetize my passion/hobby work without health insurance isn't an option either. The American Dream baby!
I got my Masters in Environmental Science two years ago, and out of the hundreds of jobs I've applied for, only ONE has given me so much as a first interview. I've even had my resume adjusted by someone who has made a carreer out of professionally adjusting resumes and it's made no difference. I got rejected from working inventory in a supermarket yesterday, and I can't help but feel that I'll never enter the work force. It's rough out here man. I'm tired.
I got my Masters in Environmental Management & have since pivoted to being an Amazon driver. I won’t be here forever but I feel ya. Also, dumb down your resume for low end jobs if you don’t already.
Context: Graduated with a Bsc. in Environmental Science at the height of the pandemic. If you haven't, try out EPA/USDA/NOAA (obv. depends on your focus). Considering you graduated ~2 years ago, you may be able to apply as a recent grad on USAJobs. Gov is one of the only places still hiring at the moment. If you're looking to get your foot in the door, Zintellect has contractor research positions available that are solid, very similar to post-grad research. Best of luck out there, try keep your head up - it took me nearly 2 years and 80+ applications to one single agency for me to eventually land a role.
5:00 The USPS is hiring "assistant carriers" who have No Set Hours, No Set Days, On Call at All Times, Must Have a Personal Vehicle, Less than 20 Hours a Week Expected, 19/hr, Must Be Able To Work Weekends and Holidays. ALL of the carrier positions advertised are like this. They want to get... UberEats drivers to pick up packages on the fly? I guess? Combined with the elimination of Overtime, don't ever wonder why the postman comes hella late these days.
I joined military for college and about to get out next year. Glad I have a skill set to work in industrialized spaces and power grids. I haven't even put a resume on Linked-In just current job title/history and people have reached out to me for data center and power plant gigs. Still a tad worried which is crazy.
@@freewind6368 My job for enlisted has like an 80k signing bonus now bc nobody wants to join anymore, so not bad. But if you get a degree never ever consider military enlisted, join whatever officer program that appeals to you. Better quality of life and insanely better pay.
If you do, make sure you try to get a transferable MOS, like Quartermaster/Logistics, Engineer, or Signal. OCS is a bit tricky though since you only get to choose your job upon graduation, not enrollment like enlisted guys do. Loggie if you want to go work for Amazon, a shipping/freight company, or DLA (❤️). Engineer if you want to be a civil engineer, construction manager, or project manager. Signal if you want to get into communications or information security, also probably your best bet if you want to get a TS/SCI.
I became a bus driver while searching and it was one of the best decisions i ever made. I made $30/hr because no one wants to be a bus driver any more, theyre all old and retiring and no ones joining. Its only like 2-3 months of training depending on how fast you pass your permit test. Its a super easy job thats like 25 hours a week while still offering full benefits so you have the time and energy to look for the job you actually want.
I was a compsci major but I'm so glad I essentially minored in business. After almost a year of looking for a job I switched to project management positions, made a business resume, and got hired in a couple of months and make more than I would have coding
"A company had a $40 billion dollar loss today which then impacted the rest of the companies in its related industry, nothing big to talk about" We are living in a parody of reality
Hey Big A, Australian here. It might seem like the Australian economy is half mining because they report it as so, but the Australian mining industry is actually ridiculously subsidized and the average Australian is kinda getting bled dry and exploited by the mining companies. As an example last year mining taxes contributed 6% to the total taxxed money in Australia, however was the largest sector of economic output at 14.3% of our total economy earnings... The real other half of the Australian economy is people repaying university loans. Last year the total loan payment was 4.9 Billion whereas the petroleum resource tax was only 2.2 Billion. The back bone of Australia never has and at this rate never will be mining. All values sources from the RBA.
Hard to get hired when companies just keep firing and stealth firing (making people miserable so they quit and the company doesn't have to pay severance).
I saw the writing on the wall, left college, and now I'm training to be a machinist. There are not enough people going into the trades and there are so many businesses hiring in my industry and many others. If you want to be a millionaire be a plumber.
I agree but depends where you live and the specific trade. It’s very Nepo babies in some places which is fun for society when they’ll be all who’s left.
I did this. Left college, was 1 semester away from getting a computer engineering degree and went with industry certifications instead (audio video systems programmer). Don't regret it at all
The "Good" Jobs Are Leaving. The aliens aren’t contacting us. We might be alone. It just might be you and me. But that’s okay. Because do you really. need. anyone else?!
A lot of y'all should really be looking into trades, it's stable, if you get into a union or on a prevailing wage job you will get treated very well, and we have a big shortage of gen z tradesmen so youth is in high demand
Pipe dream, been in the trades 4 years (entirety of my working life) they want Gen z so they can pay us just above McDonald's wages. Maybe I just need to move, but it ain't that great here.
@@Zsandman11I do prevailing wage work in Southern California, location is absolutely a massive part of it. The rate before benefits is around $40/hr which is still pretty high pay for the area. I'm not too familiar with other states prevailing wage pay but I know for sure that it's higher in other big cities like Chicago and New York.
I don't disagree with anything Big A is saying here but the chatter at 4:50 i think is correct. I work in tech but at a 'middle' sized fintech company, there really seems to be 'endless' jobs in these types of companies. They pay well but not as good as the big tech companies, they don't have the prestige, and it certainly isn't 'passionate' work but in terms of a good quality job that allows for a good living they are 100% there. I think a lot of people, especially those around reddit/twitch, and even especially so in the bay area probably did not get into this field to do very unglamourous work in a mid-west financial/auto/manufacturing CS space, but that is where a lot of jobs are right now.
I worked in both a pork and poultry slaughterhouse similar pay 22.5 and now I’m working in a warehouse 20.35 come down to Nebraska we got lots of good jobs in small towns 😅.
I’m so fucked lol I got hurt at my last job and can’t work any jobs that require me to stand… I’m 28 and have to restart life. I’ve got like 6 college credits and have no clue what I would go back for and those are the jobs that are getting ripped by AI. I turned in my UPS Driver letter the day I got hurt and was planning to try to go the military route as a combat medic so I could potentially get free med school but that’s no longer possible
I know someone that is a mechanical engineer, she worked for a few months, got laid off, looked for work for many months, finally found another job, then that company laid people off a month or two later. Crazy stuff.
I'm really excited for the Jason Schreier interview I've been a big fan of his reporting for years, and it will be great to see you guys talk about his new book
Haven’t been able to find a job in 10 months, so I just said fuck it and got a teaching certificate. The work isn’t soulless, and I’m not forced to work in an office for no reason. Honestly, if you want to feel like your work is meaningful, teaching is the way to go (unless you can’t stand kids of course)
Hey big A, about the riot layoffs, Necrit has a great video explaining why the layoffs happened and the extent of them, it sheds light on how their post if appropriate as only about 30 people got layed off and they are refocusing their league department to be more like the TFT department
The only way to get a job in this market is to literally lie and apply baby. It took 100s of apps before I found a job that would allow me to pay for my loans and hopefully in the first year let me save up to move out.
Real talk guys: go find the labor unions in your area. Entry is still competitive but it’s better pay, benefits, and job security than almost anything else. Honestly the closest thing that still exists to the American dream.
If anyone really feels worried about getting a job, please seriously consider a trade. The younger you are the better and if you hate it then ok but at least you can use it to learn some skills that save you so much money in the future, and it keeps some sort of income until you can find a job in a career you want
Idea to pair with having everyone work in mines It can fix houses crisis! We just have some beds down there and bam, everyone gets a house! Hey what's that smell let's light some candles to find ou-
While there's definitely a labor crisis, we're also finally seeing the results of the extreme overvaluing of many college degrees. As someone in the computer science field, the idea that any college will give you the skills you need to succeed in a programming job is a joke; at best they will barely prepare you enough for your first junior position where you'll contribute practically zero meaningful work while *actually* learning the skills you need to be a proper software engineer. IMO this isn't even a fault of any school in particular, but the fact that you *cannot* get the 5+ years of real-world experience necessary in a 4 year planned environment.
I'm basically fucked. I have no arches in my feet, so I can't work a warehouse job or Retail because I'd be fired the instant I sat down anywhere for any reason whatsoever. but standing and walking for more than an hour straight results in agonizing pain. I need a sit-down job, but none are available because everyone demands Senior-level experience and certs for Entry-level jobs. Guess I'll either have to subject myself to the torture nexus or die.
I know computer science jobs are hard to come by right now, but I'm not dropping out of college or changing my major because it's not like I have any other options. I've enjoyed programming since I was a kid, the only other field I would enjoy the same amount is Music, so I think I'll take my chances with computer science.
That’s surprising, I have a friend who was laid off at Deloitte after 1.5 years doing audit/investment management and she hasn’t been able to find a comparable job for the last 6 months. But she was looking in California, remote, and decent pay, so she turned down a couple of low ball offers and has been getting more interviews since switching her search to Seattle and after the federal reserve lowered interest rates.
@@Anngrl69 Interest rates getting lower is probably the big reason for hiring picking up again. Investment money coming in means a bigger need to staff projects.
kinda feeling lucky that I decided to start working in 2019 and not do my masters in CS, got a job in less than a week after searching and have been employed since. I failed a course on my Electrical engineering minor which made me redo my final year just for 1 course, so I got a webdev job to make the most of the year and didnt want to go back to uni afterwards
also funny because he's been around. definitely was on gamefaqs and other associated websites way back so him being a legit author is funny but also props
Regarding the Reddit community growth point, I wonder if some of that growth may be attributable to the a lot of the Reddit community just now coming to adult working age Maybe there’s a Reddit use by age group statistic that proves me wrong (Not discrediting that quality jobs are scarce atm)
Just so people know Necrit has a good video on the Riot layoffs, from the argumets of that video it seems that it wasn´t for the money and it wasn´t a big layoff
I've been trying to get an entry level IT job since I went to technical school for it and even have my IT Fundamentals cert. I have not gotten one call back from the 5 different jobs I sent my application to. I even have a friend and a teacher who both work for/closely with one of the locations try and help me and they still haven't reached out to me.
tbf the IT fundamentals cert is basically useless unless you started from knowing literally nothing about computers. The A+ is the baseline cert these days, but even then the market is crowded.
@@smallbutdeadly931 I mean, my friend went to the place I want to go without any certs whatsoever. I know they are hiring as well because of that friend. I mean these are entry level positions, technically they should be down to higher people with no experience, at least for something like help desk.
Apply to more jobs. I had the CompTIA triad of certs (A+, Network+, Security+) out of high school and got a job with 30-50 applications over the course of a month. This was just a year ago as well!
@@kuromu8467 I was lucky to have CTE courses available to me for the A+ and Network+, so those were subsidized after I did the prerequisite qualification testing through my school. I learned and completed the Security+ with my own time and money, alongside some Azure certs later on. Highly recommend Professor Messer's free video series here on RUclips for the CompTIA certs. I used it alongside Jason Dion's practice tests to study for the exam.
It's weird. All the money goes right to the top and corporate just fires the workers when they get their bag. And at the end of the day, what does corporate do? What do the shareholders do? Nothing
psychiatry 60k avg starting at residency and 260k out of residency fulfilling job you get to :slowly change the world" and help people etc also growing industry where the highest pay is in the great lakes ohio michigian etc aka places that are extremely cheap to live if im not mistaken ohio is still the cheapest state by cost of living and they psychs make similar amounts there as LA
see the good thing of pursuing the arts is that we know we aint getting any high paid jobs from it so we dont put all our eggs in one basket. Instead we weave it and sell the basket pattern on etsy.
University: We have loads of opportunities through our collaborations with employers Me: Great what's the acceptance rate on applications to these employers 1 Employer: We have an amazing graduate scheme that gets around 9,000 applicants for just our office, we tend to higher 30 people from that The girl stood next to me: So umm, my dad is one of your managers, should I put that in my CV?
You're getting Jason Schreier on? Holy heck. I've been following him and his work for 10+ years now, dude is an industry legend. Please do yourself a favor and, if you haven't, look into him and his work a bit more before he comes on. Not only has he written more books than just this one, he's been a gaming industry insider and trusted reporter and analyst forever.
It's no surprise good tech jobs are impossible for Americans to find considering the number of H-1B visas have quadrupled since their inception. Many people have an antiquated view on immigration where they view immigrants as low-skill and doing the jobs they don't want to do; in the modern era this is simply an oversimplification of the issue. Highly-skilled immigrants with college education make up a sizable plurality of immigrants to the US. The nature of H-1B visas, as well as the nature of what happens when you increase the supply of labor, makes the system prone to abuse. There are four types of identified corporate abuse of the H-1B system, the most obvious being that visa holders essentially have no bargaining rights and must accept whatever pay and working conditions their employer gives them, as losing employment means losing legal status. Studies have shown companies use H-1B in age discrimination by hiring young immigrants from foreign countries to avoid hiring older Americans who are perceived as more risky. And of course fundamental economics tells us that when the labor market gets oversaturated, wages are suppressed and unions lose power. (For a more detailed analysis, consider reading Professor Matloff's H-1B essay, available free online, the 10 minute overview is pretty good)
I just got a new job making 70k salary and its helping so much. Ihwas barely surviving around 50k and idk how people even get by with anything below that.
I haven’t been able to find a job in marketing for a couple of years. Can’t even get my foot in the door. I can’t imagine how it must be for people with the certified hard skills in computer science to not find anything.
How to get a job:
1) Know someone
2) Lie a little
3) Lie even more
"your network is your networth" 🤓
george santos kinda had it right
It’s just so strange because my family is huge and the frequency I hear non-management relatives say, “yeah we need this position filled but nobody knows how to do X anymore” is astounding.
Had a kid fresh out of uni present us with a solid game design portfolio. Sent him a test, passed it with flying colors. Sent him and offer and then fired his ass one week in because he couldn’t do shit and was color blind… it was a vfx + 3D modeler position. It’s crazy how dumb and dishonest some of these kids can be.
@@justgary2471
Did you ever figure out where he stole his portfolio from and how he passed the test?
Edit: Also, firing someone for being colorblind is a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) btw.
Majored at a top 20 US college, double majored in data science and astrophysics, interned in PE and at NASA. >100 job apps and have gotten a single follow up
Damn.
Join the military as an officer, that or add a zero to the end of that number
Rookie numbers. We're doing 1000 now 😢
@@workingsmile3836 Joining the military is literally selling your body, and to send out 1000 applications you need some form of automation which is part of the whole problem.
Apply to a PhD program and get paid to go to school for a few more years 🤷🏻♂️
Are we cooked chat ? I mean, you guys are, I'm doing an engineering degree at a good university, so guess who'll be able to have a semi steady job as a janitor !!!
Either that or I join the Russian military :'D
Edit: Came back from a math class, I'm cooked chat
we are giga cooked man I'm like 5 years ahead of you on the same path and it's rough man
NETWORK NETWORK AMD MAKE FRIENDS IN THE JOB
@@skullcandy14785PREACH
Lockheed Martin looking really good right now
lots of civil engineering jobs right now
Good thing I majored in HR! We're getting hired everywhere... cus they need us to fire everyone else 🗿
I hate you HR. Do yall even read resume or run it through GPT?
@@johng8837 We use it as toilet paper
@johng8837 we glance at the first 3 sentences then decide on vibes
@@johng8837 both my parents are in "manager" sort of positions at their companies and they told me managers will just throw out resumes if they see one thing wrong in a split second scan
not trying to be mean or snide, but what do HR people do for 8 hours everyday
6 months in the job search, I ran down my savings -10k, and I even interviewed at a couple cafes recently. Good thing my luck turned around and I’m in final rounds with 4 companies, holy fuck the luck is real. Any biotech bros getting laid off/cant find work, wishing u good luck
Drop the method sir 🙏
@@Eddd1e honestly im no guru, but the more effort u put into a job posting that makes you think “bro i can do this”, the better. Of course I shoot a dozen easy apply’s on LinkedIn, but for the ones I want I update the resume with keywords found in the JD and I network to try and get an angle in. Oh also, play jungle in league, hit plat, have an existential crisis, the usual
After 6 months, I’m also getting lucky. I secured an offer and might get one in the coming weeks for different companies. It all happened at once, after months of trying.
@@Eddd1eall of my most promising companies happened through people I know or have connections to. Reach out to everyone you know asking for leads. Eventually, you’ll get a lead who is actually good, and you might go far.
@@Eddd1e just gotta keep running the marathon that is job searching. It will be annoying, soul crushing, and genuinely horrible (due to repeated rejection). But i would say, focus on jobs that you think you’re well aligned with skill-wise and put a lot more effort into those applications (updated resume w keywords they mention, network with some current employees)
Also queue up jungle and hit plat, have an existential crisis, u know the vibes
Not saying the labour market is healthy, but I would guess that the rapid "jobs/unemployment" subReddit growth rates Atrioc showed are primarily reflective of layoffs in tech, rather than across the economy.
There's been a lot of tech layoffs, and tech guys are super overrepresented on Reddit.
men, am i right or am i right
+ large subreddits are “mature” which means that the rate of growth will be much slower. However Atrioc just mention they are “interesting” and not definitive. I’d say it’s clearly circumstantial evidence
False. The economy is the worst it’s been since the 70s. We have the white collar jobs going to Latin America and Eastern Europe. The entry level jobs that existed 20 years ago are gone.
If I were to be reborn again, I would still get into Comp Sci. Only difference is that I'll actually get connected to people/company that'll give good wage. This work is really about connections to the top.
All work is
I'd just be reborn as a child of a hedge fund manager and an intellectual property lawyer. Become an AI crypto artist and have lobbyists buy my pieces when one of my parents eventually gets into politics.
Interesting, thank you. My little brother is going into tech/engineering so I'll be sure to emphasize this to him!
Hahaha yeah just figured out yesterday that I got my job because of my friend.... but I am cool with it!
@@talyahr3302 Another thing, tell him to make sure to apply to as many internships and programs as possible, as early as possible
It's a tough time for Engineering graduates. It's a tough time for Comp Sci graduates. Dog I graduated from an Electrical Engineering / Comp Sci double degree and I've spent the last year getting nothing but rejection emails, I fucking hate this
How do you stand out in the crowd of ee graduates that finished their majors the same time. Why would the company want to hire you?
Thank god in my country there are a shortage of engineers
@@chubbyanemone696 Which country still has shortage for Comp Sci? I thought it saturated in almost all countries by now
@@hypermiraclepositivegirl2415 probably india or other poor country where salaries are low and where western countries move their operations to save costs
@@hypermiraclepositivegirl2415 I work in EU and i got a job relatively fast, like 1 month after graduating. And I also didn't really apply to that many companies, i may have applied 50 times total. and maybe 40 times in NA and like 10-15 times in my country.
Back in high school I remember talking to people saying: “they keep telling me there will be infinite cs jobs but if everyone goes into it now won’t there be a shortage?”
They told me: “no there will be it is growing exponentially”
Now there is a shortage of construction workers and I will be unemployed - although it sounds like I might have a spot in construction
i'm going to give up law school and instead i'm going to sell enron hats full-time
I'm in, sign me up
“thank you big A!” We all shout in unison
Reddit cutting off the api access to track things like this is a perfect example of companies taking knowledge away because it doesn't benefit their bottom line.
Such a valuable metric for telling stories like this and we've lost it arbitrarily. We don't get to know.
Thanks for the uplifting content as always Big A!
After 3 layoffs at agencies and only occasionally getting gig work, I made a game on Steam for some side money.
I'd highly recommend people looking for work to also work on their own projects.
Your game looks awesome! Amazing job!!
This. Every recruiter I have ever talked to says genuine passion for the space by non-class work is super attractive. At least college recruiters
@@Purpial Thanks! 😄
Companies had bloated structures often had more engineers and managers than blue collar workers and its not sustainable in long term. Young people were fed lies that being a cs major or engineering majors is a guarantee for a high salary. There are too many graduates than the market needs, also the quality of the graduates is really poor. Add that to an economic crisis that usa is in right now and you get what we have right now. Supply and demand at its finest.
Add H1B visa usage to that. I lived in a nice apartment building with an entire community of Indian people, great people I got some amazing food. All of them were there worked as tech workers at companies down the road. This was in Pittsburgh…..
I mean.. I got into CS and engineering cuz I liked math and computers. I was told I was going to make bank. Now I won't but I just want to live and not hate my job.
The Canadian wilderness looking pretty nice right now.
Feeling like putting my foraging knowledge to the test.
That or registered nurse. They are in high demand rn
@@riakriak7270one of these things is not like the other 😂
God, I wish I could just quit civilization like that. Can't do that in America, because almost all of the land is privately owned, And it's only a matter before you're found and forced to evict the premesis.
Getting job applications to go through is fucking impossible i hate the economy
I enjoy hearing you talk about the job market. I’m early 20s out of college and am seeing it everywhere and it’s not talked about as if it’s a large scale problem. As if everyone’s issues are unrelated.
I have an Ivy League degree in STEM (I had full need based financial aid not some legacy) I couldn't find a job that looked half way decent (never had the money for a car while a full time student so couldn't just work for free at an internship) so for now I just gave up looking (discouraged worker) and instead play and flip trading cards for money to pay for food while I live at home with my family. I also low rolled an incurable disease where the drugs I take to keep it from killing me have a small but real chance of giving me the cancer that killed my father when I was 3 - so low paying (but enough to bump me of Medicaid) monetize my passion/hobby work without health insurance isn't an option either. The American Dream baby!
Crazy interview about to happen. Didn’t know I wanted to read this book but now I do/didn’t know the book exists but that’s right up my alley 8:51
I got my Masters in Environmental Science two years ago, and out of the hundreds of jobs I've applied for, only ONE has given me so much as a first interview. I've even had my resume adjusted by someone who has made a carreer out of professionally adjusting resumes and it's made no difference. I got rejected from working inventory in a supermarket yesterday, and I can't help but feel that I'll never enter the work force. It's rough out here man. I'm tired.
I got my Masters in Environmental Management & have since pivoted to being an Amazon driver. I won’t be here forever but I feel ya. Also, dumb down your resume for low end jobs if you don’t already.
Context: Graduated with a Bsc. in Environmental Science at the height of the pandemic.
If you haven't, try out EPA/USDA/NOAA (obv. depends on your focus). Considering you graduated ~2 years ago, you may be able to apply as a recent grad on USAJobs. Gov is one of the only places still hiring at the moment. If you're looking to get your foot in the door, Zintellect has contractor research positions available that are solid, very similar to post-grad research.
Best of luck out there, try keep your head up - it took me nearly 2 years and 80+ applications to one single agency for me to eventually land a role.
Don’t give up, fren! Have you tried government or non profit work?
5:00 The USPS is hiring "assistant carriers" who have No Set Hours, No Set Days, On Call at All Times, Must Have a Personal Vehicle, Less than 20 Hours a Week Expected, 19/hr, Must Be Able To Work Weekends and Holidays.
ALL of the carrier positions advertised are like this. They want to get... UberEats drivers to pick up packages on the fly? I guess?
Combined with the elimination of Overtime, don't ever wonder why the postman comes hella late these days.
I joined military for college and about to get out next year. Glad I have a skill set to work in industrialized spaces and power grids. I haven't even put a resume on Linked-In just current job title/history and people have reached out to me for data center and power plant gigs. Still a tad worried which is crazy.
Considering applying for OCS to gain skills that those from my poli-econ degree couldn't get me a job. Worth it?
My fafsa thankfully pays for my college, so after i get it, if I can’t find a job I’ll probably join the military to get said set of skills as well.
@@freewind6368 My job for enlisted has like an 80k signing bonus now bc nobody wants to join anymore, so not bad. But if you get a degree never ever consider military enlisted, join whatever officer program that appeals to you. Better quality of life and insanely better pay.
If you do, make sure you try to get a transferable MOS, like Quartermaster/Logistics, Engineer, or Signal. OCS is a bit tricky though since you only get to choose your job upon graduation, not enrollment like enlisted guys do.
Loggie if you want to go work for Amazon, a shipping/freight company, or DLA (❤️).
Engineer if you want to be a civil engineer, construction manager, or project manager.
Signal if you want to get into communications or information security, also probably your best bet if you want to get a TS/SCI.
@@johng8837companies with retention problems offer competitive pay. The military offers longer contracts. Do what you need to do.
Been out of a job for almost a year now, starting to thing this run is jover
Gotta work at "mcdonald's" broseph.
No McDonald's for miles at this spawn point :(
I became a bus driver while searching and it was one of the best decisions i ever made. I made $30/hr because no one wants to be a bus driver any more, theyre all old and retiring and no ones joining. Its only like 2-3 months of training depending on how fast you pass your permit test. Its a super easy job thats like 25 hours a week while still offering full benefits so you have the time and energy to look for the job you actually want.
Don’t give up, fren
I was a compsci major but I'm so glad I essentially minored in business. After almost a year of looking for a job I switched to project management positions, made a business resume, and got hired in a couple of months and make more than I would have coding
"A company had a $40 billion dollar loss today which then impacted the rest of the companies in its related industry, nothing big to talk about"
We are living in a parody of reality
5:30 he's describing my entire state of western Australia but instead of low paid they are some of the richest people around
Lmao he said it
Hey Big A, Australian here. It might seem like the Australian economy is half mining because they report it as so, but the Australian mining industry is actually ridiculously subsidized and the average Australian is kinda getting bled dry and exploited by the mining companies.
As an example last year mining taxes contributed 6% to the total taxxed money in Australia, however was the largest sector of economic output at 14.3% of our total economy earnings...
The real other half of the Australian economy is people repaying university loans. Last year the total loan payment was 4.9 Billion whereas the petroleum resource tax was only 2.2 Billion. The back bone of Australia never has and at this rate never will be mining.
All values sources from the RBA.
university loans being the corner stone of an economy is crazy
White collars have it rough, I thought my biology degree and not finding a job then ending up as a pizza guy was rough
Hard to get hired when companies just keep firing and stealth firing (making people miserable so they quit and the company doesn't have to pay severance).
Im 30 seconds into this video, and I'm already fully sumbitted and am now looking into which underpasses are more attractive than others
I saw the writing on the wall, left college, and now I'm training to be a machinist. There are not enough people going into the trades and there are so many businesses hiring in my industry and many others. If you want to be a millionaire be a plumber.
Yeah the trades are where its at rn im a 19 year old welder and im making 29.50 an hour freshly hired
I agree but depends where you live and the specific trade. It’s very Nepo babies in some places which is fun for society when they’ll be all who’s left.
I did this. Left college, was 1 semester away from getting a computer engineering degree and went with industry certifications instead (audio video systems programmer). Don't regret it at all
Been blue collar since I got out the marine corps. Maintenance engineer for an industrial facility. Making a cool 40 an hour at 29
My friend is a Lineman (the people that work on powerlines) and he makes 45$ an hour
The "Good" Jobs Are Leaving. The aliens aren’t contacting us. We might be alone. It just might be you and me. But that’s okay. Because do you really. need. anyone else?!
A lot of y'all should really be looking into trades, it's stable, if you get into a union or on a prevailing wage job you will get treated very well, and we have a big shortage of gen z tradesmen so youth is in high demand
Take it from someone making almost $70/hr to install simple irrigation
Pipe dream, been in the trades 4 years (entirety of my working life) they want Gen z so they can pay us just above McDonald's wages. Maybe I just need to move, but it ain't that great here.
And no I'm not just shit at what I do, although I'm sure that's the conclusion that will be drawn.
Isn't the common complaint that boomers who run the industry refuse to get gen z folks into the industry ?
@@Zsandman11I do prevailing wage work in Southern California, location is absolutely a massive part of it. The rate before benefits is around $40/hr which is still pretty high pay for the area. I'm not too familiar with other states prevailing wage pay but I know for sure that it's higher in other big cities like Chicago and New York.
Do a video on college acceptances decreasing over the years, and how it's changed this year.
Big A really rode a league addiction to life-changing Amazon stock 😭my hero
Marketing Monday book? Count me in! Better has a Twilight romance story on how Atrioc fell in love with the Glizzy Hands!
Worker owned coops sounding better and better every week
Corpos love buying those lol
I don't disagree with anything Big A is saying here but the chatter at 4:50 i think is correct. I work in tech but at a 'middle' sized fintech company, there really seems to be 'endless' jobs in these types of companies. They pay well but not as good as the big tech companies, they don't have the prestige, and it certainly isn't 'passionate' work but in terms of a good quality job that allows for a good living they are 100% there. I think a lot of people, especially those around reddit/twitch, and even especially so in the bay area probably did not get into this field to do very unglamourous work in a mid-west financial/auto/manufacturing CS space, but that is where a lot of jobs are right now.
I worked in both a pork and poultry slaughterhouse similar pay 22.5 and now I’m working in a warehouse 20.35 come down to Nebraska we got lots of good jobs in small towns 😅.
I’m so fucked lol I got hurt at my last job and can’t work any jobs that require me to stand… I’m 28 and have to restart life. I’ve got like 6 college credits and have no clue what I would go back for and those are the jobs that are getting ripped by AI. I turned in my UPS Driver letter the day I got hurt and was planning to try to go the military route as a combat medic so I could potentially get free med school but that’s no longer possible
Pick "Media Communications" and work for a RUclips channel like Mr. Beast if you have no idea what to choose.
Took me a year to find a software engineering job after getting laid off. Almost lost my house. It's rough out there.
I know someone that is a mechanical engineer, she worked for a few months, got laid off, looked for work for many months, finally found another job, then that company laid people off a month or two later. Crazy stuff.
Me as a history degree major who just graduated this year, “welcome to the club folks”
I'm really excited for the Jason Schreier interview
I've been a big fan of his reporting for years, and it will be great to see you guys talk about his new book
Its not just america - Australia has the same issues with white collar work after mass lay offs.
that's cool A, good thinking with that author. great hustle
I know you wont see this, but I just wanna say to ya Big A: After 3 years of searching, I've finally gotten a job.
Haven’t been able to find a job in 10 months, so I just said fuck it and got a teaching certificate. The work isn’t soulless, and I’m not forced to work in an office for no reason. Honestly, if you want to feel like your work is meaningful, teaching is the way to go (unless you can’t stand kids of course)
Hey big A, about the riot layoffs, Necrit has a great video explaining why the layoffs happened and the extent of them, it sheds light on how their post if appropriate as only about 30 people got layed off and they are refocusing their league department to be more like the TFT department
I think it’s more shocking that their doing even more lay offs after they just cut 11% of their work force about 8 months ago
I just gave up and got an emt certification. Now I work on an ambulance and its great
The only way to get a job in this market is to literally lie and apply baby. It took 100s of apps before I found a job that would allow me to pay for my loans and hopefully in the first year let me save up to move out.
5:49 is the Canadian provinces of Saskatchewan and Alberta except add in agriculture and oil production too.
Real talk guys: go find the labor unions in your area. Entry is still competitive but it’s better pay, benefits, and job security than almost anything else. Honestly the closest thing that still exists to the American dream.
If anyone really feels worried about getting a job, please seriously consider a trade. The younger you are the better and if you hate it then ok but at least you can use it to learn some skills that save you so much money in the future, and it keeps some sort of income until you can find a job in a career you want
Back in the day people got mad when you told them "learn to code". Im sure the reverse is just fine
Apparently apprentice roles have hundreds of applicants where I live.
@@Gandhi_Physique even small shops and more rural areas?
@@Eztrigger Oh that's EVERYWHERE. I mean EVERYWHERE. "Just get a trade bro" from people who haven't heard of the labor aristocracy is hilarious.
@@DarkwellorBZ lol ok buddy
Idea to pair with having everyone work in mines It can fix houses crisis! We just have some beds down there and bam, everyone gets a house! Hey what's that smell let's light some candles to find ou-
IM GRADUATING FROM COMSCI NEXT YEAR. CANT WAIT TO BE A PROFESSIONAL BEGGER 😌
Deadass, what’s your github? I’m curious at what other students projects look like
While there's definitely a labor crisis, we're also finally seeing the results of the extreme overvaluing of many college degrees. As someone in the computer science field, the idea that any college will give you the skills you need to succeed in a programming job is a joke; at best they will barely prepare you enough for your first junior position where you'll contribute practically zero meaningful work while *actually* learning the skills you need to be a proper software engineer.
IMO this isn't even a fault of any school in particular, but the fact that you *cannot* get the 5+ years of real-world experience necessary in a 4 year planned environment.
Yooooo. Jason Schierer on Big A? Sickk
Got 5 jobs in the last 4 months now I’m a manager at a job I got yesterday. Bouta apply to Jobs’s using that in my resume😊.
hamburger i think
CURRENT ENGINEERING MAJOR FUTURE DISHWASHER 🥰🥰🥰
I'm basically fucked. I have no arches in my feet, so I can't work a warehouse job or Retail because I'd be fired the instant I sat down anywhere for any reason whatsoever. but standing and walking for more than an hour straight results in agonizing pain.
I need a sit-down job, but none are available because everyone demands Senior-level experience and certs for Entry-level jobs. Guess I'll either have to subject myself to the torture nexus or die.
marketing tuah !
What a creative and funny comment! I especially like lighthearted reference to the the popular cultural phenomenon “hawk tuah” 😂😂😂😂😛
Personally the most genius and insightful comment I have ever had the pleasure of laying my eyes apon thank you @rayk1409 🙏
@@george1717 spit on that like button!
Why does this translate to "Good Luck Marketing!"
@@owenbuckleywfbwhy does this translate tuah*
I know computer science jobs are hard to come by right now, but I'm not dropping out of college or changing my major because it's not like I have any other options. I've enjoyed programming since I was a kid, the only other field I would enjoy the same amount is Music, so I think I'll take my chances with computer science.
I was just about to buy the book when you said to wait in the background 😂 I'll buy it after he comes on
Don't really like the chart comparison given how different the user counts are and 2024 metrics being gone.
I have 20+ recruiters hit my linked in this month, I work in accounting! Guess my profession is secured
That’s surprising, I have a friend who was laid off at Deloitte after 1.5 years doing audit/investment management and she hasn’t been able to find a comparable job for the last 6 months.
But she was looking in California, remote, and decent pay, so she turned down a couple of low ball offers and has been getting more interviews since switching her search to Seattle and after the federal reserve lowered interest rates.
Can confirm. Recently graduated with only a minor in accounting, and still ended up getting the second job I applied for. Yay for government jobs!
@@Anngrl69 Interest rates getting lower is probably the big reason for hiring picking up again. Investment money coming in means a bigger need to staff projects.
@@Anngrl69 then maybe she should try going industry and coming to terms with not working for public firms
Book sounds cool
I'm jaded from Google corpspeak but that is exactly how I expect a layoff email to be phrased
Australian economy... Nah mate, do not take the Australia pill. It could be worse but, it could be so much better.
kinda feeling lucky that I decided to start working in 2019 and not do my masters in CS, got a job in less than a week after searching and have been employed since.
I failed a course on my Electrical engineering minor which made me redo my final year just for 1 course, so I got a webdev job to make the most of the year and didnt want to go back to uni afterwards
Jason Scherer is a pretty well known game journalist so big ups on getting that interview
also funny because he's been around. definitely was on gamefaqs and other associated websites way back so him being a legit author is funny but also props
Regarding the Reddit community growth point, I wonder if some of that growth may be attributable to the a lot of the Reddit community just now coming to adult working age
Maybe there’s a Reddit use by age group statistic that proves me wrong
(Not discrediting that quality jobs are scarce atm)
Just so people know Necrit has a good video on the Riot layoffs, from the argumets of that video it seems that it wasn´t for the money and it wasn´t a big layoff
I've been trying to get an entry level IT job since I went to technical school for it and even have my IT Fundamentals cert. I have not gotten one call back from the 5 different jobs I sent my application to. I even have a friend and a teacher who both work for/closely with one of the locations try and help me and they still haven't reached out to me.
tbf the IT fundamentals cert is basically useless unless you started from knowing literally nothing about computers. The A+ is the baseline cert these days, but even then the market is crowded.
@@smallbutdeadly931 I mean, my friend went to the place I want to go without any certs whatsoever. I know they are hiring as well because of that friend. I mean these are entry level positions, technically they should be down to higher people with no experience, at least for something like help desk.
Apply to more jobs. I had the CompTIA triad of certs (A+, Network+, Security+) out of high school and got a job with 30-50 applications over the course of a month. This was just a year ago as well!
@broadestsmiler Im getting certs (hardware and network so far) in high school rn. Did you do it yourself or did your school pay/ offer the couse?
@@kuromu8467 I was lucky to have CTE courses available to me for the A+ and Network+, so those were subsidized after I did the prerequisite qualification testing through my school. I learned and completed the Security+ with my own time and money, alongside some Azure certs later on.
Highly recommend Professor Messer's free video series here on RUclips for the CompTIA certs. I used it alongside Jason Dion's practice tests to study for the exam.
It's weird. All the money goes right to the top and corporate just fires the workers when they get their bag. And at the end of the day, what does corporate do? What do the shareholders do? Nothing
It’s greed. It’s literally always greed
Atrioc should have Brandon Sanderson on Marketing Monday
psychiatry 60k avg starting at residency and 260k out of residency fulfilling job you get to :slowly change the world" and help people etc also growing industry where the highest pay is in the great lakes ohio michigian etc aka places that are extremely cheap to live if im not mistaken ohio is still the cheapest state by cost of living and they psychs make similar amounts there as LA
see the good thing of pursuing the arts is that we know we aint getting any high paid jobs from it so we dont put all our eggs in one basket. Instead we weave it and sell the basket pattern on etsy.
Can confirm my project experience and gpa did not get me my job. Its all about who you know so get networking
Jason Schreier is such a good author, this is so exciting!
I was legit about to buy that Blizz book but Ill wait now
Smith Tanks is hiring welders and helpers. Good luck brothers. I got in, hope you guys can too
University: We have loads of opportunities through our collaborations with employers
Me: Great what's the acceptance rate on applications to these employers
1 Employer: We have an amazing graduate scheme that gets around 9,000 applicants for just our office, we tend to higher 30 people from that
The girl stood next to me: So umm, my dad is one of your managers, should I put that in my CV?
A spectre is haunting America ...
You're getting Jason Schreier on? Holy heck. I've been following him and his work for 10+ years now, dude is an industry legend. Please do yourself a favor and, if you haven't, look into him and his work a bit more before he comes on. Not only has he written more books than just this one, he's been a gaming industry insider and trusted reporter and analyst forever.
Comp Sci is Comp Engineering for people who want to paint a program instead of writing one. Gotteeeeem
Marketing fuckin monday let's goooo
It's no surprise good tech jobs are impossible for Americans to find considering the number of H-1B visas have quadrupled since their inception. Many people have an antiquated view on immigration where they view immigrants as low-skill and doing the jobs they don't want to do; in the modern era this is simply an oversimplification of the issue. Highly-skilled immigrants with college education make up a sizable plurality of immigrants to the US. The nature of H-1B visas, as well as the nature of what happens when you increase the supply of labor, makes the system prone to abuse. There are four types of identified corporate abuse of the H-1B system, the most obvious being that visa holders essentially have no bargaining rights and must accept whatever pay and working conditions their employer gives them, as losing employment means losing legal status. Studies have shown companies use H-1B in age discrimination by hiring young immigrants from foreign countries to avoid hiring older Americans who are perceived as more risky. And of course fundamental economics tells us that when the labor market gets oversaturated, wages are suppressed and unions lose power.
(For a more detailed analysis, consider reading Professor Matloff's H-1B essay, available free online, the 10 minute overview is pretty good)
IMO you should contact Lina Khan! Get her some exposure to the "Youth".
Its bad enough I gave up on IT/tech and reenlisted to get medic certs and be a firefighter.
Screw tech
I just got a new job making 70k salary and its helping so much. Ihwas barely surviving around 50k and idk how people even get by with anything below that.
*laughs in infantry*
I haven’t been able to find a job in marketing for a couple of years. Can’t even get my foot in the door. I can’t imagine how it must be for people with the certified hard skills in computer science to not find anything.
Ok but for riot only 30 people got layed off I think it’s more of a restructure
Good thing im blue collar!
Wait the author visit sounds awesome.
best job? investing as well as me and retirement at 41 self made super rich
congrats, big A taking off with a guest