Pope Fights - Frederick II: History Summarized
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On this episode, Holy Roman Frederick II wants to hang out in Sicily, but gets dragged kicking and screaming into The Plot. Despite his palpable disinterest in playing diplomatic footsie with the Vatican, he becomes one of the most dangerous opponents the Papacy ever faced.
SOURCES & Further Reading: "Sicily: An Island at the Center of History" by John Julius Norwich, Great Courses Lecture "Emperor Frederick II" from "The High Middle Ages" by Philip Daileader.
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1:15 Wow emperor Henry sure did live for a long time, I had no idea. I could have sworn he actually died in 1197, but nope, the man lived right up through German Reunification. Wild.
-B
Sikh empire please
I was about to say the same.
To be fair the man was the AntiChrist, he could probably use Dark Magic to achieve Lichdom.
German reunification brought tears to holy Roman emperor Henry
That was a long three years for Sicily
I can just hear the boxing match bells ring every time the Pope sends another crusade attempt down to southern Italy.
*Papal States*: I didn't hear no bell.
Frederick II: Any news?
Courtier: The pope has sent another strongly worded letter.
Frederick II: Another excommunication?
Courtier: No, your majesty. He has declared you an ancestor of the antichrist.
Frederick: Ah, he's been feeling creative.
You'd think if the Pope could identify who the ancestors of the Antichrist were, they'd either kill them or give them a very generous bribe never to have kids. End of the world averted!
Where's this from?
@A B Nowhere, I made it up
Freddy could have solved his problems with excommunications and Catholic popes by converting to Orthodox Christianity and recognising the Patriarch of Constantinople as the head of the Christian world. It would be interesting to see the fallout from that.
Getting a strong Blackadder vibe from that one...
I'm kinda sad you didn't mention the strange fact that, because Frederick was excommunicate during the entire time he was in control of Jerusalem and its churches, the Pope had in effect excommunicated The Church of the Holy Sepulchre - the holiest church in all of Christendom.
Eleventy-first like!
Also, yes.
Tells you just how arbitrary and pointless the position of pope really is. I'm not particularly religious, but from what I know about Christian beliefs, no man has the power to judge another under god. The pope's supposed power of excommunication is effectively just made up.
@@starslayer8390 Remember Indulgences?
@@starslayer8390 he's Basically supposed to be Peter's descendant but you know, politics and human nature kinda ruined his position.
Hmm, perhaps if Frederick had followed through on any one of his THREE PREVIOUS Crusading expeditions rather than calling them off at the earliest opportunities, he could have marched on Jerusalem with the full blessing of the Church? I imagine his forces could have been of great help to the armies of the Fifth Crusade as they struggled in Egypt.
When they say reality is much stranger than fiction tell them about Fredrick the 2nd. Excommunicated 4 times, peacefully won a crusade, and basically did all of this just so he could get back to his Falconing.
The mans got priorities. He a fellow homebody. And if I were in his shoes I would do the same thing while rolling my eyes at every excommunication I get. I could see Frederick look at the letters of excommunication and say, "Any way... what were we talking about again?"
@@seraphi3387 The first one was shocking. The second would be confusing. Eye rolls would begin after the 3rd. Also you gotta remember that in this era the church was more of a corrupt political power than a religious authority.
@@seraphi3387 but yeah. Man lived life to the fullest. He really made use of his resources to enjoy his time.
And while Rome had the last laugh...on paper, anyway, Emperor Birb at least scored a concrete personal win in that entire fiasco, causing the Pope to yeet himself from life. Oh, and his pro gamer move in his Crusade. That too.
@@seraphi3387 its the "oh no!.. Anyway" meme
Pope: Threatens to excommunicate Fredrick.
Fredrick: Completely apathetic and does not care
Pope: Actually excommunicates him
Fredrick Thoroughly uninterested and not having it
New Pope: Excommunicates him AGAIN
Fredrick: Even more uninterested and apathetic
New Pope: Triple excommunicates him, declares that he is a heretic, too sinful to be a king and the literal Anti-Christ
Fredrick: "Somehow I care even less now than when this shit started."
Amazing how a shockingly decent medieval king managed to get slapped with ALL those labels at once. XD
@@AegixDrakan Man, Crusader Kings is weird. :)
Frederick: “Doesn’t excommunication mean you’re supposed to pretend I don’t exist and leave me the hell alone? When does that start?
@@kereminde
Man, if this is a CK2 or CK3 run, old Antichrist Fred had a lot more patience with the Pope than me.
I get excommunicated I immediately convert to Islam or Judaism.
'Hmm, yes. I see your declaration of excommunication, although I will take the good advice of my Orthodox and Muslim advisors and file it under "less important than you think it is". As you seem to use your spiritual authority for temporal motives I shall likewise file a copy of the declaration under "jokes to tell at parties". Good day, sir.'
Frederick only lost areas he didn't want, and he got to keep falconing. I'd say he won, being happier than his enemies.
Falconing, reading and fucking, fucking, FUCKING
Also his enemies died in prison.
I call that a win!
True, whether you win or lose something depends entirely on what your goals are. Traditionally we think of great leaders in history as "winning" by hoarding up more and more land (because of tax collection etc), but without a plan for managing those lands, they're just as easily lost. It's debatable if having those lands for a generation or two is really worth the cost of obtaining them.
If a leader decides that his goal is to maximise culture instead of maximising land then in my book that is 100% valid and a solid win both for that leader and for future generations.
I've heard the best revenge is a life well lived.
"Every day, I wake up and I'm forced to be awesome!"
-Frederick II.
well, both of the Frederick II, since there are two. Both awesome
@@gabrielesalera7088 And somehow, only the second one is the Great one.
I just want to HANG OUT WITH BIRDS DAMNIT
@@15oClock frederick II^II the great
@@freakymoejoe2 "I just want to write poetry and BIRB, leave me in peace!"
YES, POPE FIGHTS. These series makes my Medieval History class slightly more bearable. Blessed be Blue
Don't talk to me! I am famous! Don't dislike my good good GOOD videos! Don't talk to me, dear tia
Imagine depends which country are you from. In Italy, we always study about pope wars, you cannot study Italian history without them!
Your teacher must be absolutely shit to make medieval history boring; it’s fucking wild
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"Oh no, don't take Jerusalem, Germany, the throne I didn't want, and the treasures of the HRE, and also excommunicate me a THIRD time. Whatever will I do in Sicily with nothing but my falcons, literature, and people I actually like."
-Frederick, probably
Blue: "The Pope excommunicated him again but, who cares?"
The Pope: "Oh no, apathy, my one weakness!"
Like, what, does that send his soul to Super Hell or something? Get out of here with your nonsense.
@@JaelinBezel Well according to Dante, Frederick got tossed in a burning coffin for all of eternity for Heresy, which is in the Circles of Malice, so...I guess that's Super Hell?
@@travisoliver6741 Yeah, but Dante is just It*lian fan-fic.
@@travisoliver6741 you mean the guy that also got branded as a heretic lol
@@andrewhooper7603And that Italian fanfic author gave more contributions in his life than you will achieve in yours
Man, imagine disappointing your dad so much that he puts you in forever-timeout. Mood. Also I'm pretty sure Fredrick won this one. Marched his army right up to Rome (in the Great Roman emperor tradition) and then scared a pope to death.
Little „fun“ fact. Frederick‘s son Henry was grounded so hard that he was thrown into a cell for 7 years. On top of that he contracted Leprosy (y’know, the sickness where you basically start rotting while you are still alive) and died when he accidentally fell of his horse into a chasm when they changed prisons (allegedly, some say it was suicide, others say it was murder)
@@likealightning4139 is this the ancient version of "he fell down an elevator shaft...onto some bullets"
@@likealightning4139 That is one convenient open gibbet there
And that's the big problem. Frederick was HOLY Roman Emperor, not an Emperor of Pre-Christian Rome. And there is no place in Christendom for an Emperor who does not practice Christianity, makes war on the pope and all good Christians, and tries to establish a pagan tyranny over his people.
@@charleslarrivee2908 The Holy Roman Empire isn't actually Rome, it's modern day Germany (not sure how it got its name). Also you say Christianity, but speaking as someone from the Balkans eastern orthodox Christians really don't like the pope, and isn't the whole point of Protestantism renouncing the pope and the catholic church's system? Also this series is called Pope Fights, it's about popes doing very unchristian tings like waging WAR, usually against each other. I just don't think we should be using his relationship to the pope to gauge weather or not he was a good Christian.
You left out one of the more interesting stories about Frederick II: his birth. When he was born, his mother, the Silician Hauteville Queen Constance, was 40 years old. The story goes that she knew that because of her age, her opponents would dispute the fact that Frederick really was her son, she gave birth in a public square so that she would have dozens if not hundreds of witnesses.
Given that his grandfather was Frederick Barbarossa, Frederick clearly got chutzpah from both sides of his family.
Goddaaaaaaaaaamn his mama had NO FUCKING CHILL! XD
Damn that's interesting. I'm surprised he didn't included it because it's such an odd yet neat bit of info.
@@erinnix3197 There’s a *lot* of stuff to cover with Freddie 2. Blue was doing this from the perspective of a “Pope Fights” video, but there’s a zillion angles to his life. As someone else posted, there’s a video out there where Jack Rackham says “The Anti-Christ already came and left and his name was Fred.”
@@gerstelb Blue also left out the bonkers fact that Pope not so Innocent III was also Frederick's godfather.
Imagine being so good at your hobby that you literally WROTE THE BOOK ON IT, and that's NOT EVEN the thing that history remembers you for. Absolute legend.
Pope: "get --in the robot-- on the throne, Frederick!"
Frederick: "Father! Don't make me do this"
Pope: Now -get in the robot already- go on a Crusade!
Frederick: Alright, fine. I -killed the thing- secured the city of Jerusalem will you fuck off now?
Pope: No, I don't like how you -got in the robot do it again- reconquered the holy land.
Was "Freddy" a thing at the time?
Not only does it match "Shinji" better, but I'm pretty sure the Pope's respect would only go that far if that option was on the table.
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@@carlosroo5460 thanks! I just hate it when it all comes
Tumbling down
Tumbling down
Tumbling dowwwn
Honestly, I'd say that Frederick won. Yeah, he lost the Holy Roman Empire, but let's just admit that most Holy Roman Emperors have only had very limited control of the Empire. Through it all Frederick managed to hold on to his core territory: the Kingdom of Sicily.
that and he was a good king that fixed a good chunk that was the mess hes predesuccor left, reclaim the holly land thru words only and had good taste in animenals, jumpstart peotry and the like and at the end he no longer was bothered by the pope able to live out his life in his fav place and died a peacefull life then be called a wonder of the world while the popes were left with a kingdom that it hid by thin strings, have the smear of excumcating the most holy of churches and had many failed crusades. on paper fedrick def won most he didn't really care about the stuff he lost he had what he wanted at the end while the two popes who fought him didn't really left uncath and was left for worst than fedrick so at the end fedrick was the one who got the last luaph
His dynasty was wiped out, the Hohenstaufens were pretty powerfull before him and he caused their downfall so yeah Frederick was pretty much a disaster
The guy went on a *successful* Crusade--which he won PEACEFULLY--and *then* he went back and pwned the Pope so hard he made him the dead.
Fredrick II was a BOSS.
Frederick II: "Crusading. A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
I love that Frederick II's plan to have the Pope stop bothering him was to make a huge commitment to something he didn't want to do, and bring up excommunication as a punishment for failure, which is a pretty big deal when you're the new ruler of Jerusalem. The funniest part is that he almost immediately got tired of it, went back to Italy, was promptly excommunicated and prevented from going to his new kingdom.
Like, I ain't one to judge, but there was a very easy solution, and I feel like it involved not putting excommunication on the table yourself in the first place.
EDIT: Oh my god, I forgot the part where he said "fuck it" and got Jerusalem without fighting while being Excommunicated², pissing off everyone in the process. He literally won a Holy War without the Holy or the war part. What an icon, a true Meme Emperor
I dunno, I feel like retaking the Holy City without spilling a single droop of blood would please the Lord, so he still had the 'Holy' part, in spite of what the pope had to say
@@gingermcgingin4106 Funny how the Pope seemed more concerned with wealth and prestige for himself than results he claimed to want. Hmmmm....
@@gingermcgingin4106 If you’ve read The Old Testament: nope. If there’s not a great deal of smiting involved, it hasn’t really happened.
Big ADHD mood tbh.
@@Healermain15 Exactly my thought. I mean, he basically procrastinated from Crusading until it was actually too late, but then gave a Master Work.
I have now decided that replacing all the intricate little borders of the HRE with a paragraph explaining why one isn't drawing all the intricate little borders of the HRE is the definitive way to create an accurate map of medieval Europe
Imagine _that_ replacing CK3 Bordergore
The paragraph just repeats "no fuck off" for several sentences
I feel like out of all the epithets you could ascribe to Frederick II, “Falcon King” is easily the best
Pope fights sounds like something out of a comedy sketch, and I’m loving it.
Please let there be an animation of the Popes fighting a wrestling ring. I would love to see that!
Never let it be said that medieval history isn't a farcical comedy of fluctuating quality
Wait till he gets to the Cadaver Synod.....
@@paulgibbon5991 I’m sorry, *_WHAT?_*
@@jamesharding3459 In 897, the newly elected Pope Stephen put his predecessor, Formosus, on trial for violation of canon law, perjury and becoming a bishop under false pretences. Not that remarkable, except that Formosus had died the previous year, so Stephen dug up his corpse and put it on trial.
I like to think Frederick II’s royal guard is just an absolute cloud of falcons, and anyone who attempts to hurt him just gets picked up into the air and seconds later their bones just fall from the sky
It seems that Fredrick II was actually one of those rulers that were genuinely decent, and only got involved in things like wars and such because others dragged them into it. Also, contrary to their names, those popes weren't really all that innocent.
It's probably why they took that name. Like calling your shop 'Akbar's Discount Submarines - Not Deathtraps' or something.
Yeah, it's wacky how a shockingly decent medieval emperor (all things considered) was literally crusaded against and labelled an anti-christ T W I C E.
I mean he did do some pretty unpleasant experiments too.
But overall far from the worst medieval ruler.
@@Syurtpiutha With all the Anti-Christs showing up, you'd think that Roy was coming right outta Grant's Ear.
@@AegixDrakan Not really, given how many decent people actually get called anticrist not, i believe it. Or how some catholic bishops diswn the pope because he is very moderately not a bigot. Its not that wacky.
this is one of those bits of history i would NEVER have come across by myself, so hurray for learning new stuff
The more I learn about the HRE, the more I'm convinced it only existed as a thing students of the Wars of the Roses can look to and say "At least I don't need to deal with that hot mess".
The HRE was at least a functional political unit up until the death of Henry III in 1056. After that, anybody who can afford to build a castle can win total independence. Nobody had the technology to blow up castles so the more castles that were built the more new countries became independent etc.
Honestly, the HRE should have ended with the invention of modern gunpowder capable of blowing up castle walls (See the Gunpowder empires of France, Sweden, Ottomans, Safavids, Mughals, etc). Think the Ottomans blowing up the walls of Byzantium in 1453 or the French winning the Hundred years war (also 1453) by blowing up English castles. However, for some bizarre reason the HRE continues for another 300 years after it had no right to.
Two words: Chinese history
in the immortal words of Jack Rackham:
"The Anti Christ has already came and left and his name was Fred"
honestly I hope this means the HRE will get some love from OSP. It is a fuster cluck yes but its a very interesting entity with how long it lasts
The HRE is one never-ending Charlie-Foxtrot, but those kinds of situations always spawn interesting characters.
Been waiting for this channel to cover anything East Europe. Your wish might get fulfilled sooner than mine.
@@kavky i mean... Greece, Poland, the Ottomans
@@yoda2495 Those are South European, Central European, and not in any way European.
I just want to see OSP team up with Jack Rakham a second time.
As someone who tried writing a thesis on Henry (VII.) a year ago, I was cackling for the last 10 minutes. Also deeply appreciated your note about the HRE map, you're absolutely right in not bothering to show the single territories, german historian approves fully 😉
Sounds like the HRE micronations parallel the Japanese Warring States period for being a great place to set a D&D game.
@@segevstormlord3713 There is a reason why the German sense of Honor and the Japanese one parallel so much. Both went through hundreds of years of quite pure Feudalism, Warrior Codes and Politicking. Right now Germany is a Federal State of 16 smaller nations, but people tend to forget this. Not only this, but the local german in one village can differ a lot from the next one. But for a D&D campaign; Ever heard of the 30 Years War?
@@profezzordarke4362 "Heard of" is about the extent of it. I know the 100 Year War was France/England; was the 30 Years War a German affair?
Interesting insight on the "pure feudalism" and the notion of "warrior honor" arising naturally from that rather than being coincident part of it. I wonder what it is about such a micronation dynamic and the constant warfare that makes "warrior honor" evolve convergently rather than it being an unusual response with dishonorable dirty tricks warfare being more the norm.
@@segevstormlord3713 gut instinct says it’s because everything’s at such a small scale. You can’t pull dirty tricks and get away with ‘em when everybody knows everybody because their world is so small, and, since the scale is so tiny, being honourable/generally competent pays good dividends since it builds you a reputation
@@segevstormlord3713 The 30 Years War is what happened after the Reformation. Protestant Countries and Catholic Countries starting a Confessional War which ended up in basically all of Europe finding an Excuse to mess with the German Countries and get a piece of cake. This lead to 30 years of marauding mercenary armies laying waste to whole cities. The most terrible was probably The Siege of Magdeburg. Had some great tactical leaders,Tilly and Wallenstein to name two.
Think WW2 just in Renaissance.
About Warrior Honor: Feudalism needs to have at least two Castes: Warriors and Farmers. Knights and Peasants / Bushi and idk what Non-Bushi were called. The Warriros have more rights, because they promise to fight for the safety of the peasants and/or organise it all, do the politics etc. So they develop their own rituals spending time among each other. Depending on the Religion the Culture is based on they will develop a Sense of "right" Behaviour, a social norm, "Honour". People that belong to a Caste and act outside of their Norms lose that status, thus their honour. In a Feudalist Society you would be able to prove you're a warrior by a duel and thus keep your honour. (which lead to the extremely long lasting dueling tradition in Europe)
If too many little Warlords arise, able to reign on their own, warring each other, this Caste will grow ever more important, gain more influence and as such will have certain standards enforced. To serve your liege will become a crucial part of the larger social construct and this will need rules to keep things working.
It should also be noted that Samurai did all kinds of dirty warfare in contrast to Knights, because Christendom imposes some certain rules against Skulduggery and Underhandedness which made War in Medieval Europe a bit more civil in contrast to Feudal Japan.
JoCat’s “SMITE” being in here is such a pleasant surprise
I went back to make sure I heard correctly. I did and am rolling on the floor
Fredrick was like "I'm already damned to hell as is, I might as well get this city in a civil manner bc my punishment literally can't get any worse"
I'm damned to hell, which means I can do whatever i want. WOOOT!!!!!
Armies of the time generally traveled with some sort of treasury in tow - it's not like they had credit cards to pay for all of the provisions an army on the march needs. Soldiers generally appreciate being paid as well.
Traveling with the ENTIRE royal treasury is super odd, though. I guess it could happen if one was paranoid and unwilling to let all of that money out of their sight. Which, given the ongoing revolts in Sicily... maybe I could see that happening.
Still, I find it unlikely that Frederick lost literally his entire royal treasury at Parma. His kingdom would have been utterly ruined if that had happened, and he may well have been overthrown. Money is important, yo
Far more likely that he simply lost the army's treasury, and the historical accounts used vague language referring to "a" treasury, not necessarily "the" treasury.
I'm in agreement with you, gotta boost this so Blue sees it.
I DESPERATELY want someone to make a show of this guys life. It’s a wonderful story.
I would want all episodes to be 80% falconing, 20% other plot stuff
@@JDM-is-my-name the only acceptable kind of filler.
Whenever he isn't in Sicily and he doesn't have a falcon, he just looks tired and bored. Excomminucated? Meh. Fighting invading armies? Yawn. Retaking the Holy Land without spilling a drop of blood? Zzzzz. Birb catches rabbit in front of Frederick and his multi-ethnic entourage? Now we're talking!
It would be ruined by modern Hollywood.
An anime?! An anime could work, even if you insert some waifu i guess. She can be a bird trainer
Frederick: If I had a nickle for every time I've been ex-communicated I'd have two nickles. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
3 actually
@@SovereignwindVODs Man has three nickles. Twice more and he could get a gumball.
Now he's got three
@@danghostman2814 25 cents for a gumball? In this economy? What is this the 1400s? This man needs to be excommunicated at least 7 more times, though he learned of the Popes greatest weakness waaaaaaaaay before anyone really figured it out: Apathy 😂
Pope: Excommunicates Fred... Again...
Fred: Is it still excommunication if I was never recommunicated?
Also, Freddy got excommunicated more times the Monkey's been immortal! Pardon the pun, but holy shit dude!
Double-reverse-secret excommunication!
Ah yes, my bird-loving namesake.
Fun fact is that he was probably the first European to ever own a cockatoo, as he received one as a gift from the sultan of Egypt.
In turn Frederick gifted the sultan one of his most prized birds, an albino peacock.
gotta love how the man showed tactical negation trumps invasion most times with him recapturing the holy land
and I feel like you could do a whole pope fight video over the amount of time the medieval church called for a crusade anytime someone threatened their power with in Europe its self
The concept of the Crusades as being an epic clash of religions is quite a modern concept, pushed by modern culture warrior extremists on both sides. At the time, it was more like a bunch of drunken idiots spilling out of a pub and picking a fight with the first person who looked at them funny.
and that everyone else was jealous because he did it so easily
All the more impressive when you consider that you could count the number of genuinely successful crusades on the fingers of one hand, and he did it against the wishes of the Papacy...
@paulgibbon5991 nah
Blue, you don't just make history interesting and fun, you make it downright *delightful*. It's the visual gags, it's the comedic timing (that "yikes" at 1:40 is ~so good~), but mostly it's just ... something about the perspective you craft for these events; it's magical :)
agreed
I know we all love red's voice, but blue has gotten really good at this storytelling thing too
Was not expecting a use of a JoCat soundclip. Well played, Blue.
found the comment i was looking for
Timestamp?
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@@Internetresident0451 Thnx
Why in hell wasn't this whole thing a monty python scetch. Like it just fits right in!
Oh yes please
They were probably worried about upsetting the Christians, honestly. Probably would have happened at some point if the Church hadn’t made such a big deal about Life of Brian.
@@thesquishedelf1301 as a Christian I think it would be hilarious. Not all of us are super sensitive. It also depends on the sect at times.
@@drilltotheheavens1695 oh of course. Most people didn’t take the whole thing seriously but enough did, and were loud enough, that Life of Brian got the Pythons in fairly hot water until they made a fool out of that one catholic talking head on late night tv.
@@thesquishedelf1301 If no one complained about the ominous God in The Holy Grail then nobody would complain about portraying the pope either. And I think the anger was more about turning the Nativity and Easter into a parody more than anything else.
I'm Italian, and my Sicilian school teacher *LOVED* Freddy Two.
In fact, I remember pretty much everything about him, and nothing else from middle school. That's how much she bombarded us with his story.
Freddy seems like a decent fellow, spending most of his life trying to fix things instead of breaking them
There is no and never has been a single decent sovereign ruler. It is simply too much power for one person alone. I'd imagine anyone would start abusing it from mere boredom if nothing else.
In case you want to learn about Freddy II's mind for science or his insatiable curiosity google ''Frederick II's Experiments.''
That said I'm willing to admit he was far from the worst.
@@vilivaan seems like a massive oversimplification of millenia of human experience, but you do you.
For a medieval ruler, yes. But that implies a lot of things that are not great inherently by a king existing, but in comparison, yes
@@vilivaan I wouldn’t agree with that entirely there’s been decent kings but I do agree the system as a whole is fundamentally flawed
I love that Blue makes me excited for history more than any classroom can. Thanks a lot man!!
Fredrick II is a whole mood. Like yes, I will take care of my responsibilities even if I don’t really wanna do them, but I would just rather spend time in my favorite place on the planet and enjoy myself. Is it simply not enough to do a good enough job and make things less of a hassle so I can write about birds in peace???
Pope Fights 4: The Popening
Seriously I get legit excited for these vids. Probably my favorite of Blue's content.
God I love finding out there are even *more* Pope Fights out there.
Saaaame. XD
It’s pope fights all the way down (even before the pope existed, too)
I'm a simple man, I see Pope Fights in my notifications, I watch it.
I majored in medieval history and did well.
I would have learned more if I was watching these, I keep thinking how much this cartoon resembles history.
I think you'd make a great professor.
Pope Fights Chronology so far:
Pope Fights I: Benedict IX arc 1032-1048
Pope Fights 4: Fredrick II 1198-1250
Pope Fights 1: Avignon Arc 1294-1418
Pope Fights 3: the Italian wars 1494-1559
Pope Fights 2: Reformation 1520-1648
The video blue wanted to make: a serious video about history.
The video he made: Funny birb man go brrrrr.
And then Fredrick did a suplex, snapped Honorius' neck and saved the day
Aw yeah Frederick saving the day is tight!
Wow, wow wow wow wow
@@josephderksen9688 Yea Yea Yea Yea Yea! Super easy, barely an inconvenience!
Ah yes, a fellow on a podium with a fancy tie named Rackam told me about him and how the anti-christ's name became Fred.
ALSO 1147 to 1997?
When is the next Warthunder how-to video?
POPE FIGHTS!!!!!!!
For the next one, you should do that time when one pope exhumed an old pope to put the dead pope on trial! If that isn’t pontifical memery, idk what is. Great work on this, btw!
Yes! That's such a fun and weird one I loved learning about it. Right up his alley.
Pope: okay Frederick we want you to be emperor
Frederick: *Sighs* Okay... *starts to do the whole emperor thing good.*
Pope: Oh no! *panic mode*
Don't think I didn't notice that the "SMITE" sound effect was from Jocat's paladin video! Loving it!
i say frederick gets 4 points, one for each excommunication he didn’t give a damn about. XD
I relate to this guy:
Love physic
Love natural world
Love language
Love birb
“Hey here’s a fuck ton of responsibility”
“ :( “
Except I would probably make things worse instead of better with reforms to the nobility, so he’s me but better
Frederick was the kind of protagonist where he's just hanging out and random encounters keep getting thrown at him.
So he was a falcon nerd that became the last great Holy Roman Emperor, rebuilt a functional multicultural multiethnic kingdom, got excommunicated 4 times, took Jerusalem without casualties, was betrayed by his own son, scared the Pope literally to death, embodied the prophecy of the apocalyptic Antichrist, almost fought Gengis Kan and died of old age.
He is now hanging out with Qin shi huang di, Augustus, Aurelian and Temujin in the afterlife.
Man I can't get enough of Medieval Popes becoming Blues' Punching bag. Just look at those right hooks and upper jars! Man those would defectively let scars. Also Frederick you are official my favorite Emperor in history, tie with Constantine and King Cyrus.
Fred II, crusading after learning about his excommunication: "this sign can't stop me because i can't read!"
Small Brain Crusader: "DEUS VULT!"
Big Brain Crusader: "Have you tried simply asking for Jerusalem?"
Nothing like a good old-fashioned Pope Fight to ring in the holiday season.
“Everyone get outta my way. I just wanna sit here and feed my birds.”
- Frederick II, probably
You didn’t just have one, but TWO JoCat “smite” sound clips. Nice job! 👍
I can only hear one.
This guy is probably one of my favorite figures in history, on account of basically being the first secular ruler of Europe in the middle ages and the fact he used diplomacy instead of raw military power to achieve his goal of retaking Jerusalem.
Emperor Frederick II: *wants to live his life with his birds and his poems*
The Catholic Church: “Wait that’s illegal!”
I wanna play an assassins creed game where I can KIDNAP BIDHOPS! That’s far too rad to not be in an actual game!
the mission would be fittingly titled "grand theft cardinal"
@@sylviamontaez3889 That is a full blown FF14 style quest name and I am here for it, lol.
Pope: Frederick! Go away, you're excommunicated! And stop kidnapping my bishops!!!
Assassin Frederick: _Nothing is true, everything is permitted_ ...
As an Italian literature scholar, so glad you mentioned the Sicilian School of Poetry, Freddie 2 did so many cool things that one usually goes under the radar! And about that: the SSP wasn't simply "ahead" of Dante. Their poems were copied and "translated" in Tuscany, where they spawned a number of imitators (the so-called "sicilian-tuscan poets"), who were essentially Dante's direct precursors. In the Divine Comedy he explicitly acknowledges a lineage from the Sicilians to the sicilian-tuscans to him. Long story short, no Frederick II, no Dante, and basically no "western" literature as we know it.
Man, Federick is unironically one of the best monarchs in history, Love that I'm learning about him, sounds like a pretty interesting life- I bet theres still plenty more to learn about him.
When I saw "Frederick II" I thought "The Great", but in the end I wasn't even disappointed bc I didn't know this Other Frederick but he's pretty damn cool.
He was pretty *damned* cool, one could say.
I love the impression you give of Frederick at the end - the man just wants to relax but gets dragged into endless Pope-punching. Great stuff.
missed Blue's history videos, been a while since one popped up for me and the fact it's a Pope Fight makes it better
Oh I know this one. This is about the guy who got excommunicated four times and declared the literal Antichrist!
Also, Jack Rackham (the RUclipsr, not the pirate) did a video on the guy.
My favorite emperor and second and third favorite popes, mostly because of these conflicts. Nicely done!
I was just talking with my friend about this, and 20 min later there’s an OSP video about it. You guys read my mind.
I was having a really bad time today. I then got and the bus and started scrolling and found this... thank you for all that you do. Have a good day everyone.
Love these vids. I appreciate meme-y language incorporated into historical education
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I know y’all have covered lots of stuff about South America, Africa, Oceania but I would love even more. I know rather little about these regions, American education system am I right, and find your content amazing. This channel is wonderful so do whatever you want
I didn't expect a pope fight video this morning but man am i glad we got it
Always love more Pope Fights!
I do so love that account name.
@@dominictemple haha thanks!
Look at what happens when one (1) reasonable man is involved in a crusade.
Greatly enjoyed this new round of Pope Fights.
I dont do that often but for OSP video especially pope fights im giving thumbs up before watching!
Popes: "God says be good people and do good things. Be nice or something."
Also Popes: POPE FIGHT!!!
Blue: (Wants to just do a video on Frederick II)
Frederick II: (proceeds to do multiple no-nos against the Pope, unknowingly making this a Pope Fights video) *You didn’t see that coming?*
I'm sick this weekend so this video made my day! I love learning about the pope fights because of their insanity as well as learning about the kingdom of Sicily, since my ancestors are from Sicily and Napoles. Also, please stop giving me ideas for my history capstone next semester.
Just last week i started reading a book called, do excuse the rough translation, "De tribus impostribus" that is attributed to Frederick II. Sometimes the universe gives birth to the strangest coincidences. Great video, always glad to learn more about Italian history!
Frederick II simply followed the 3rd Rule of Acquisition when he negotiated for Jerusalem:
Never pay more for an acquisition than you have to.
I'd call it a win for Frederick. Yeah, he lost the Roman Empire, but he hadn't even wanted it in the first place. All he wanted to do was chill at home and study his birds. And lets be honest, him no longer being Roman Emperor or even part of the Empire meant that his chances of watching his home be burned down went down 200%...Rome was surprisingly flammable during its lifetime.
Bear in mind that Rome was never actually part of the Holy Roman Empire. In fact there was little to nothing "Roman" about the Holy Roman Empire. It was just a name given to Charlemagne's realm and when it was divided between his sons after his death, the eastern half got to keep the name and the western half became France. There was a third son who inherited a stretch of land between them, but that was predictably absorbed by its neighbors.
This video deserves way more attention, it is so funny.
I could have sworn I watched a video on this from you guys a few months ago. It was about Frederick II, but was also told differently. I'm gonna have to go back and watch the Pope Fights videos again.
A pope fights right after journey to the west, the best combo since peanut butter and chocolate
I am so hyped for this.
I actually titled my lessons about this topic and of the multiple pope craziness as “Pope Fights” years ago. It would be so cool for former students to watch this and maybe think of me getting excited about talking about it. 😊 Hopefully they kept their notebooks!
Jocat’s smite is one of my favorite sound effects.
You gotta do a history makers episode on Bede. The famous Northumbrian monk who gave us The Ecclesiastical History of England. I wrote a paper on him for my historiography class and he was so much fun to research. Give it a shot if you can and want to
BTW, there are also Pope fights even during the persecution period you might want to look into. You will probably have to roll afew of the earlier Pope fights together into one video. I think everyone would appreciate it.
I've watched a few of your videos and this one is worth a subscription
YES! I just rewatched the previous pope ights video’s two days ago!