What's Going on with my Demon 170? Is my Engine Trashed?

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  • Опубликовано: 1 май 2024
  • I went to my local dealership to get some answers as to what happened to my Demon 170 at the track. This is an update to my previous video in which my car went into limp mode at the track, and the transbrake stopped working. It has been two weeks since I took the car to the dealer and Stellantis has still yet to weigh in, despite the issue being escalated to senior engineers. This problem has the potential to keep the car down for months.
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  • @RacerX9
    @RacerX9  13 дней назад +19

    Here is the link to the Dream Giveaway Plum Crazy Challenger Giveaway with my Code:
    www.dreamgiveaway.com/tickets/challenger?promo=RACERX

    • @cristianisbae6452
      @cristianisbae6452 13 дней назад

      I was messing with my 2016 ram 1500 PCM I accidentally left one of the connection not attached enough. And for some reason it was revving my motor at 1500rpm. It usually sits below 900. I went back and sat it correctly and it was fine after. It was throwing low battery voltage. And ABS light with traction control.

    • @RedLeo-pf9yo
      @RedLeo-pf9yo 9 дней назад

      You picked the perfect colors for a vehicle named the Demon !!!

  • @BK_LEGO_76
    @BK_LEGO_76 13 дней назад +212

    Too bad Stelantis fired all the Dodge Engineers… 🙄

    • @eldiablort1461
      @eldiablort1461 13 дней назад +27

      They sure did. 94% of the FCA employees in North America are now gone.

    • @americanassassin001
      @americanassassin001 13 дней назад +11

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 FACTS!!!!!!!

    • @OctonaBoyFresh
      @OctonaBoyFresh 13 дней назад +6

      Yup!!!!

    • @dscop442
      @dscop442 13 дней назад +8

      Exactly what I was going to say. It’s all EV trash now…probably ditched the 2/3 of the ICE team 2 weeks ago and gave the carryover work to LCC employees who don’t even own a car🫤. My best guess.

    • @ducktails1695
      @ducktails1695 13 дней назад +5

      @@dscop442EV wouldn’t have this issue…😏

  • @MrCocg1
    @MrCocg1 13 дней назад +38

    I am so glad I'm still stuck in "Old School Mode".. All that $$$ and issues with new and owned by the dealer for analysis and fix.. No more "tinkering" yourself.. God bless you techies.. And those with all the money.... I'll be happy with my carburetor equipped Dinosaurs.!!

    • @archieguitarz4700
      @archieguitarz4700 12 дней назад +5

      Right on. The Demon is a beast but I'm afraid all this high tech is it's achillies heal. I'll stick with my old 70 Challenger R/T. I can't touch those ET's, but I'm ok with that.

    • @majormannfred
      @majormannfred 12 дней назад +2

      Love my '70 AMX so much...had it 43 years now.

    • @jeffrey501green
      @jeffrey501green 12 дней назад +2

      @@majormannfred wow, nice care they were quick back in the day...even the 390 AMC matador was fast....

    • @jeffrey501green
      @jeffrey501green 12 дней назад +3

      @@archieguitarz4700 you got a keeper brother. I still got my 1967 coronet R/T also...

    • @archieguitarz4700
      @archieguitarz4700 11 дней назад +2

      @@majormannfred good for you! A friend of mine raced an AMX for many years. It was a rocket.

  • @seanroberts4541
    @seanroberts4541 13 дней назад +67

    Sure hope it's something stupid, like computer related. Missing the Demon content. Praying for you and the 170, brother

    • @allanhood4397
      @allanhood4397 13 дней назад +4

      Typical Dodge junk

    • @robertblackton2295
      @robertblackton2295 13 дней назад +3

      @@allanhood4397 Yeah from a typical🤔 Dodge Hater..

    • @allanhood4397
      @allanhood4397 13 дней назад +1

      Getto cars

    • @dragvan1937
      @dragvan1937 12 дней назад +1

      I'm agreeing with the idea that it's ether a bad sensor or a programming issue. I just hope it's not a defect in the oil pump cavitation of the oil. That's going to cause damage. The computer should have a recording of the oil pressure when it set the codes. And the RPM at the time. Hoping for the best for you and your car.

    • @dougwhite4310
      @dougwhite4310 10 часов назад

      @@dragvan1937 I know this is 12 days old but it sounds like the violent launches pushes all the oil away from where it's needed causing the engine to start eating itself. Was a known issue with the bosses at Stelantis but they had already built a bunch of engines so they quietly put in a better pump on all future built engines (or one that keeps the oil where it needs to be properly) and just crossed their fingers.

  • @slowvega
    @slowvega 13 дней назад +26

    Factory warranty or not, drag racing tears stuff up. Looking forward to updates.

    • @larryc1616
      @larryc1616 13 дней назад +5

      Not with the Plaid ⚡️🇺🇲

    • @PhuckYoutube-dw7su
      @PhuckYoutube-dw7su 13 дней назад +3

      Not with my IS F 🏁

    • @3644Darrell
      @3644Darrell 12 дней назад

      ​@@larryc1616no one gives a shit about your fast toaster on wheels, nerd.

    • @ignignxkt
      @ignignxkt 7 дней назад

      Not with a bicycle while wearing a banana thong.

    • @nickro7722
      @nickro7722 4 дня назад +2

      ​@@larryc1616That's not a real car

  • @heffescott8355
    @heffescott8355 12 дней назад +9

    What's sad is if it wasn't for RacerX being RacerX they would have already told him to go pound sand like they have with other Joe Smo's.

  • @perryalexander5868
    @perryalexander5868 13 дней назад +21

    Racer x...a lot of dodge last call vehicles quality control is pretty bad... I think you got a lemon. With others, this happens when people know their employment is coming to a close. And this is unfortunate. I hope your demon 170 issues are resolved.

    • @devonp5079
      @devonp5079 12 дней назад +4

      Another Dodge Lemon

    • @OleSevers
      @OleSevers 9 дней назад +1

      They made an insane amount of lemons. They are barely making it anymore

    • @perryalexander5868
      @perryalexander5868 9 дней назад +2

      @@OleSevers they definitely rushed it...

  • @cbowser8604
    @cbowser8604 13 дней назад +52

    Really hope Dodge takes care of you and your car. You are such a super spokesperson for Dodge.😎

    • @eldiablort1461
      @eldiablort1461 13 дней назад +7

      They would if they cared, but this is a whole new ballgame with Stellantis.

    • @ryze9153
      @ryze9153 13 дней назад +4

      Dodge is not really Dodge anymore. They're worse.

    • @PSYCHOBABAYAGA
      @PSYCHOBABAYAGA 13 дней назад +11

      I'll never buy dodge. You will be taken care of because you bought a high end car and you do RUclips. But dodge is bad about warranties and backing their products in my experience. I actually had my home burn down because of a recall on a 2004 Durango and got no compensation or anything. What a worthless car manufacturer. I will always hate them💯 also had a work van with extended warranty that was purchased when new. The motor blew and they would not stand behind it. Bought a new Chevrolet work van and I'll never go back. Goodluck to you and the car. Dodge is trash💯

    • @reverselee3218
      @reverselee3218 12 дней назад +1

      ​@@PSYCHOBABAYAGAHopefully your Chevy van doesn't have any issues.

    • @mattsomeonewithansrt3948
      @mattsomeonewithansrt3948 12 дней назад +2

      I mean he is beating the crap out of the car. Suspects something is wrong with it and does 4 more hard launches at the strip. I mean how many times has he ran it already 50 times, 100 times. That’s quite a bit of abuse especially given how violent the car throws that power to the wheels the first 60 feet something is bound to break doesn’t matter how tough it is from the factory

  • @warmeds2009
    @warmeds2009 13 дней назад +29

    Damn.....I know that sucks especially when youre making big MONEY payments on that Demon......... Following......

  • @that_pinball_metal_dood169
    @that_pinball_metal_dood169 13 дней назад +8

    Appreciate the update! Will still always follow the channel! I love that Demon 170!

  • @aaronharter2418
    @aaronharter2418 13 дней назад +38

    Look at the upside... maybe it shut the whole system down before something major happened!!!
    Can't hurt to have positive thoughts!

  • @dougpendleton1266
    @dougpendleton1266 13 дней назад +22

    Thanks for the update, I have been curious as to what was happening. I hope they get you fixed up, but it is amazing to see a drag car with a warranty!

    • @stevepick9527
      @stevepick9527 13 дней назад +2

      Yes it is. But that Warranty won’t do you much good if you can’t get the factory to back it up by getting in touch with the dealership. Or worse, having a car that doesn’t run right sitting in the dealership while having outrageous payments.

  • @fredobot5298
    @fredobot5298 13 дней назад +22

    Maybe swap oil pressure sensor, just in case. Even newer sensors have been know to go freaky once in a while. 🤔

    • @4JaayTv
      @4JaayTv 10 дней назад +1

      I think it’s the camshaft .

  • @user-zi1lu9xd4h
    @user-zi1lu9xd4h 13 дней назад +3

    Thanks for the update! I was wondering what was going on.

  • @JIMFED63
    @JIMFED63 13 дней назад +13

    Unfortunately when you beat the heck out of a car at a drag strip it’s bound to break !

  • @r-shot8431
    @r-shot8431 13 дней назад +13

    Sorry to see you go through this... Hopeful there will be a idea or fix by the next update. Hey you can do a some content on that rental... LOL we are with you no matter..

  • @DefinitelyNotYouThankGod
    @DefinitelyNotYouThankGod 13 дней назад +1

    That’s super crazy! I’m guessing it has to do with oil pressure. I’ve seen a few other issues with blown motors. Hopefully you don’t have any more issues. We really enjoy seeing your Demon for sure. Keep the ups coming, brother we love them.

  • @jerrykurl69
    @jerrykurl69 13 дней назад +69

    Stellantis tech here, that ‘head’ tech is gonna lose his ass working on that Demon. He will not be compensated for even half the time he spends wasting on this work order. He will quit and it’ll be the next guy up. The engineers, if there are any left are gonna waste his time, spin him around in circles and this will take forever to resolve. That Wagoneer rental is likely about to throw a check engine light any moment as well.

    • @ItsBlurrs
      @ItsBlurrs 12 дней назад +9

      im starting to think i made the right choice getting a '22 hellcat over a '23 seeing all the problems with these things

    • @nicholaspoole8688
      @nicholaspoole8688 12 дней назад +10

      @@ItsBlurrsI noticed alot of covid cars 2020 to 2023 have a lot of problems. I have 2016 scat and hellcat not one single problem yet the newer guys have a lot of problems.

    • @jerrytriplett3013
      @jerrytriplett3013 12 дней назад +10

      2021 scat with blown motor at 24k no help from stellantis feel you pain brotha!!!

    • @jerrykurl69
      @jerrykurl69 12 дней назад +5

      @@ItsBlurrs You’d be blown away if you saw as many faults and issues with all these engines. They can’t even clean the casting sand out of the block properly, guess where that stuff ends up?

    • @sophiaskeens6417
      @sophiaskeens6417 12 дней назад +2

      Too bad the dealerships lost so much money on selling the Demons to be able to pay the techs to work on them. That $100k+ markup had to go to the owner, not the employees.

  • @FaithfulServant316
    @FaithfulServant316 13 дней назад +2

    That's sux! I'm sorry to hear the not so good news on your Demon170. Hope it all works out for you.
    Worse comes to worse, if it doesn't work out for you RacerX and if ever down the road, you want to sell it for whatever reason, I'll buy it from you. I've been still looking for one.
    Thanks

  • @jhh70
    @jhh70 11 дней назад +3

    I ran the wholesale parts at that dealership. It will be a miracle if you hear back on that Star case. We had cars sitting around for months because I could not locate parts or Stelantis couldn't supply them. The parts and service get screwed because Stelantis can't deliver. I had to submit two and three requests for hellcat parts before they would release them. I could have sold five times the parts if Stelantis could have just supplied them.

  • @paulpatrulescu9976
    @paulpatrulescu9976 12 дней назад +1

    Hope you get this resolved cuz it’s gotta be nerve wracking especially with these cars going away. Good luck!

  • @mikedaugharty5544
    @mikedaugharty5544 13 дней назад +1

    Sorry to hear about the problems there it is a bad situation

  • @rocklyn4662
    @rocklyn4662 12 дней назад

    Really sorry to hear you're having trouble. I always loved dodge but had problems with every one I've had. So, I got a vette. Only to have it stolen. It was recovered. Been at the dealer for 2 months getting repaired. My son got a Type R....I love that thing. But recall on fuel pump. In the words of the donut guys...cars are pain. Hope you get some resolve soon brother!

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast 13 дней назад +11

    Bummer. It is good that the dealership is taking this seriously. However, it isn't a good sign that they can't fix it. Hope it gets resolved for you.

    • @crankychris2
      @crankychris2 6 дней назад

      They'll sit on it for a few months until X agrees to take it back as is. He definitely will not receive a rebuilt engine, WTF did he think he was buying a Toyota? If X whines loud enuf on YT they just might clear the fault codes and retard the timing. Anyone else that is not a wealthy RUclipsr won't even get a car wash. Rich people pay $$$$ to learn things, the rest of us have to do it the hard way.
      Imagine just how little a used clapped out Demon will fetch next year? OH, what a feeling...

  • @capricetony
    @capricetony 13 дней назад +11

    Lot of folks been having issues with 2023’s, door panels coming apart, electrical issues etc…

    • @johnnyturbo8460
      @johnnyturbo8460 10 дней назад +2

      That's because Dodge doesn't care.
      1. This generation of the chargers/ challengers are at the end of their run
      2. Dodge will just say "you raced it, so we won't cover it"

  • @kingsizeauto315
    @kingsizeauto315 13 дней назад +1

    Sorry to hear that the Demon is down. Hopefully it's something simple like a bad oil or cam sensor or just tuning. When the intake manifold gasket took a dump on my Trackhawk, I got all kinds of error codes like cylinder misfire, bad throttle body and all kinds of codes related to vacuum leaks along with going into limp mode on the street. Seems like when one thing is wrong, it makes the other stuff go nuts too. The dealership had my ride for about 2 weeks, but the cool thing is that it was all covered under the 5 year powertrain warranty with 2 months to spare. I hope you get it back soon sir. Blessings!

  • @Hammersrt
    @Hammersrt 13 дней назад +5

    O ring on the oil pickup tube could be split or pushed out not sealing

  • @kevinhahn2111
    @kevinhahn2111 13 дней назад +2

    Good luck is all I can say brother! I worked at a 5 star Chrysler dealership for a better part of a decade. When the caliber and avenger came out with that silly cvt transaxle, we had opened a star ticket on it and actually had a team come from Mercedes to come and try to figure out issues with that system. I remember several of our customers being without their vehicles for a couple months.

  • @bekkiware264
    @bekkiware264 11 дней назад +1

    Wishing you the best of luck. Hope it turns out to be a minor problem.

  • @greganderson1989
    @greganderson1989 12 дней назад +1

    Sorry to hear about the car. Hope it gets fixed soon.

  • @karlmr2979
    @karlmr2979 12 дней назад +3

    Timing chain guide is broken and/or VVT. Cam phaser mounted on cam is bad. That will cause Timing issues and it will go into limp mode. Oil pressure sender is bad but will not cause issues your having. Same symptoms I had on my 2012 SRT8 6.4

  • @glencampbell9741
    @glencampbell9741 11 дней назад +1

    Sorry to hear X ,I know how long you waited for your 170 , Maybe you'll end up in a C8 after all, The Zo6 with that splendid sound from the flat plane or for the xtra grip at launch, The E-ray.
    Either way , Best of luck 🏁

  • @bartkay1ify
    @bartkay1ify 12 дней назад +1

    Man Racer X when I first hear I said to myself you are like me you get the special problems and your going to be taken for the uncomfortable ride and will the problem ever be solved. I was amazed at how well you started off taking on the problem pretty easy going.

    • @douglastaylor8039
      @douglastaylor8039 12 дней назад +1

      They'll take care of him because he a cheer leader for them. Plus he's a youtube podcaster.

    • @bartkay1ify
      @bartkay1ify 12 дней назад

      @@douglastaylor8039 Hope so. I hope it does not take a another new Demon 170. Part of the deal or experience.

  • @brianhill4995
    @brianhill4995 13 дней назад +4

    Bet they will add a better oil pan with increased baffles. Your car launches hard!

  • @johnroma9412
    @johnroma9412 12 дней назад

    RACERX,
    I owe you an opology. I thought you modified the 170 ,but now l recall you said on a previous show you were not modifying the 170 to keep the warranty in tact. My bad.
    I do love your show and your enthusiasm and competitive attitude.
    I like your show so much ,in August 2022 l purchased a brand new Challenger RT in F8 green.
    Only option on my RT is the automatic trany. I have a spinal cord problem so l need the auto trany.
    I could have purchased a Camero or Mustang ,but went with the Mopar for the traditional muscle body and especially the round headlight retro style.
    I have been rer ended several times. Having a bigger car just makes me feel more visible on the road. Higher seat level makes it easier for me to enter and exit vehicle.
    I see some drivers with portable car hand controls prefer the larger Challenger too.
    I love my RT. I put less than 1000 miles per year ,so l will do well if l ever decide to resell.
    If you have kept the 179 stock ,the dealer should cover the oil flow problem. Hopefully they find the fix for fast ,so we can get back to seeing a true stock 170 raceing again at the track.
    Keepin my fingers crossed.
    I love my RT. It sounds great. I don’t race it. Don’t burn the tires. I’m keepin it cream puff condition. Only drive it about once every week or two. Got plenty of power for my non racing needs. Just a cool cruder with a great stock sound. I’m keepin it totally stock for future generations to enjoy and collect.
    Once again, l hope they find a quick simple solution. I hate to say, if it’s been there two weeks, it looks like they can’t figure it out.
    I see they have made a “case study” of your 170.
    Your 170 looks so cool on the road and at the track.
    I guess l should get a RACERX cap. They do look cool. Hope you get caps in a lighter color for sunny day events. We should see your fans wearing RACERX caps at the track when you race.
    Maybe give some out as a promotion ,to kids at the track?
    Your show is great. I feel you should have a larger following, but there’s a lot of competition.
    I saw how you modified the Mustang with nitro and you and others were impressed. I thought maybe you did the same with your 170.
    Having your car in the shop is like having a sick pet at a pet hospital. It really gets to you.
    I real hope they find and fix the oil flow issue.
    The stock sound of my RT turns heads all the time. I keep it clean and covered.
    Thanks for sticking with MOPAR. The best of luck to you and your shows future.👏👏👏🏎🏎🏎

  • @misfit8962
    @misfit8962 13 дней назад

    Well i wanted one of the demons but kinda glad i missed it , now looking at a ZL1 .
    My 21 300s had some computer issues but when i took it back in dealership replaced the pcm and no issues since

  • @mezmfsettles5682
    @mezmfsettles5682 12 дней назад +2

    Well if it is trash can I get the trashed engine or have first dibs on it if u don’t need it for the core charge

  • @recoilrob324
    @recoilrob324 13 дней назад +8

    I can't believe that a company is selling a 9 second car with a WARRANTY!!! Most will have a clause that if you race them you bought them...and I don't blame them at all for that. Seems that a LOT of the 170's don't perform as advertised and dealers are getting crushed with them coming back under warranty. Not a good situation here at all.

    • @lemongavine
      @lemongavine 13 дней назад

      Plaid is a low 9 second car with a warranty and can withstand many 100’s of passes (possibly 1000’s).

  • @marcushays1665
    @marcushays1665 13 дней назад +3

    Hey man you can come get my HC challenger and make them races happen you have lined up if yours is down too long! It is tuned for E85 and I have full drag pack with same tire you have on your 170. I've not gotten to make a good pass on mine since tuned because it keeps on raining every time the track is open. Hope you get yours fixed soon!

  • @tomyunt1839
    @tomyunt1839 12 дней назад +1

    I wish you good luck with the car , I’m sure it will be ok soon

  • @WelchsGrapeJuice
    @WelchsGrapeJuice 4 дня назад +1

    Love the content RacerX! When I was looking at purchasing one of these, someone told me “the demon is a sweet car, but remember you’re paying over $100k for a dodge”

  • @jaredglass2562
    @jaredglass2562 13 дней назад +19

    Hopefully the engineers behide the demon wasn't part of that mass layoff the engineering department had. I really hope it all works out for you.

  • @goblinzl1
    @goblinzl1 13 дней назад

    stuff like this is frustrating. my zl1 is in limp mode and im concerned.
    i hope you get it right. let them keep as long as possible to get it perfect.

  • @user-nd7wy6jl4s
    @user-nd7wy6jl4s 12 дней назад +2

    X-Man, hopefully everything gets cleared up quickly. After 2wks, you would think they had some news. But I'm not surprised they don't, it's not good when the techs get bamboozled.

  • @frankwolfrum6301
    @frankwolfrum6301 13 дней назад +1

    Hopefully the can find the problem and fix it. Intermittent problems are so hard to find.

  • @thomasmazur8935
    @thomasmazur8935 12 дней назад

    my son has a 2023 jeep renegade that has an issue with the heat an a/c temp, problem has been going on for a year and they cant fix it it, or know why, stelantis just tried to offer him a cash settelment to go away ,good luck with tour issues best of luck love your channel

  • @emmanuelguzman5944
    @emmanuelguzman5944 13 дней назад +3

    Get trade it in for a Vette if the issue can't be fixed. You've always wanted one and it's an amazing car, the perfect exuse to get one if you ask me !

    • @theboogeyman1571
      @theboogeyman1571 13 дней назад +1

      The vettes have had lots of problems too, new vehicles are junk

    • @douglastaylor8039
      @douglastaylor8039 12 дней назад

      They're engineered to fail. The money is in the repairs & more cheap garbage parts.

  • @bdogjr7779
    @bdogjr7779 13 дней назад +3

    AwesomeX《☆》Wow👍🏾☕🤳Good Luck Brother Thankfully your Dealership is on the ball✌🏼😎☯️

  • @universalhead
    @universalhead 13 дней назад

    Is G forces doing something to the oil pressure, it’s a beast off the line.
    I imagined they checked for the oil pressure sensor is within electrical spec.
    Also you can pull the oil filter off to release trapped air in the system somewhere to re prime the system.
    The pressure regulator in the oil pump
    is responsible for keeping the oil pressure in the system at the necessary pressure.

  • @davidedmonds6427
    @davidedmonds6427 10 дней назад

    That sucks, hopefully they get it solved so you can enjoy your CAR!!!

  • @erictaylor1320
    @erictaylor1320 12 дней назад

    I really hope you engineering gives them some direction asap. Can’t wait to see that thing back on the strip!

  • @gwen7231
    @gwen7231 13 дней назад +1

    Transmission converter lockout failure. The cam sensor threw a code, and it failed due to a low-pressure oil pump. It threw the loop out of the sink. They'll find the issue. Don't worry about it. But at the end of the day, it's likely a sensory issue.

  • @elvisp22701
    @elvisp22701 10 дней назад

    2016 Challenger Hellcat. Engine replaced a little north of 1,000 miles. At dealership for 37 days. I relayed to the assistant manager at about day 30. Provide me with equivalent vehicle to drive. You can keep the car as long as you need to.

  • @ES-art
    @ES-art 12 дней назад +1

    This is horrible news. Im very sorry to hear. Its unfortunate this happened, but with your popularity and channel, we'll get to see first hand whats happening with Dodge as a company. You will be informing many potential future consumers.

  • @geraldscott4302
    @geraldscott4302 13 дней назад +8

    I'm not really surprised. This car came off an assembly line. I have NEVER seen an engine/transmission off the assembly line that was close to what it should be. Also, was this engine even built strong enough to handle that much power on a race track? Probably not. It likely has the same internal parts as the lower powered versions. And everything is controlled by computers. I have never heard of a storebought race car with a warranty. COPO Camaros, Cobra Jet Mustangs, and Drag Pack Challengers never had warranties. Race cars are intended to be abused. I have been a drag racer for more than 40 years. I have always raced '60s and '70s cars. Hand built carbureted engines. Cast cranks, rods, and pistons. Perfect clearances. I have never gotten close to the nines, low twelves is the best I've ever done. I have always overbuilt engines for the power they made. I have had a few failures, most of them caused by build mistakes. For much less than that Demon 170 cost, I could have built one whopper of a race car. Simple. Carbureted. No computers. Using a GM 6-71 blower that cost a fraction of what the one on that car cost, and is much stronger.
    Back in the '60s, Mopar, Ford, and GM built factory drag race cars. They were very simple compared to what is being built today, they were slower, but much stronger. Todays cars are nowhere near the quality of cars built in the '60s. This car was built on a design that was intended to be disposable. Hopefully the damage isn't too bad. But there is no way that car is going to hold up over years of drag racing without an absolutely insane amount of very expensive broken parts. Most of those cars were sold to collectors that will never race them.

    • @darknes7800
      @darknes7800 13 дней назад +3

      yup, a race shop will ALWAYS provide a higher quality build. Compared to assembly line stuff !

    • @mcfero1
      @mcfero1 12 дней назад

      And yet us real hot rodders like the RUclips channel sloppy mechanics went 8s for 8k.

  • @petesdemon
    @petesdemon 13 дней назад +2

    There's a shop in Ocala I keep hearing about that knows the ins and outs of these late model Mopars called Burnyzz speed shop. If the dealer can't figure it out maybe these guys can

  • @stonewall3041
    @stonewall3041 13 дней назад +10

    A Dodge on a service rack. That's its natural habitat.

  • @ChrisSmith-dp9qi
    @ChrisSmith-dp9qi 11 дней назад +1

    It's the track. New, old, bullet proof build, just the nature of drag racing, eventually something is going to break. I hope it's simple and covered, good luck.

  • @mikeadams1287
    @mikeadams1287 13 дней назад +2

    I didn't watch it yet. I will 2nite. If your motor is blown, then I will understand your pain. My c8 blew at 502 miles. I NEVER pushed it past 2500 rpm. I strongly believe in break in period. I bet you do too. Smart people do that. I owned 2 hellcats and a demon. I can only imagine the insane power of your car. I hope it works out and I hope to see more videos about your race car😊

  • @markg7030
    @markg7030 13 дней назад +5

    Oil could be sloshing back and the pick up becomes uncovered reducing oil pressure. There should be baffeling in the oil pan to reduce this , but who knows?

    • @douglastaylor8039
      @douglastaylor8039 12 дней назад

      The dodge engineers should know that and they do about the sump oil pumps. They don't want those engines to last to long.

  • @stevesmith6236
    @stevesmith6236 13 дней назад +3

    Bummmer. I'd think considering you being such a recognized high profile RUclipsr that Dodge would jump on this ASAP. I know that if my 2023 Daytona had issues ( fingers crossed it won't!) I wouldn't be as composed as you ( even if it's just on camera!).I like many subscribers look forward to all updates.

    • @jgmullins1
      @jgmullins1 12 дней назад

      Dodge has jumped on it. The SRT engineers have departed. Engneers that design Fiats and EV's are not going to be helpful. If you bought a Last Call anything it was a roll of the dice. If you bought a 170 your going to to be in for a lot of frustration since the resources to troubleshoot anything don't exist. The techs at the dealership have not been trained to work on these cars. They are learning as well. As Dodge folds your going to be left with no techs as they will move on. Kudos to RacerX for showing the reality of owning and driving the car as intended. For all those sitting for sale that have never been driven - your likely buying a pig in a poke. That Grand Wagoneer is pure garbage BTW. They can't fix the gremlims on those either.

  • @garysgarage9827
    @garysgarage9827 11 дней назад +1

    I’m a dodge technician as well. Suggest checking oil pressure with a manual gauge and it probably needs an oil control valve

  • @eugenescoj
    @eugenescoj 11 дней назад +1

    i went thru the same hassles last year with my SRT durango and it wasn't resolved because the dealership that i leased it from didn't have a mechanic qualified to work on it so they were guessing at the problem and had to contract the job out to another dealership to repair the problem which turned out to be a valve lifter. the dreaded hemi tik.

  • @kevinc8811
    @kevinc8811 13 дней назад +1

    I have a feeling it accelerates so hard that your oil pump isn’t able to pick up and pump enough oil. Loss of oil pressure and volume basically. Had that problem with a built Kawasaki years ago. Luckily an aftermarket company came up with a dry sump conversion that solved the problem.

    • @jeffkeni
      @jeffkeni 13 дней назад +1

      That seems like an accurate theoretical possibility but don't you think the Demon engineers already thunk of that and designed accordingly? I would hope they did.

  • @shanehansen940
    @shanehansen940 12 дней назад +1

    Hopefully your experience is better than mine. I had a star case that took 6 months for ram to do anything.

  • @donparker4775
    @donparker4775 12 дней назад

    I hope they find the real issue. My gut feeling is that they will remedy the hell out of it.

  • @dman2289
    @dman2289 12 дней назад +1

    Hope you have better luck at that dealer than I did.

  • @roadglide1142
    @roadglide1142 13 дней назад +1

    You have stumped 🤔 the engineers 🧑‍💻. 😮 I’ll keep my Scat Pack thank you ☺️

  • @MichaelSmith-kr9qw
    @MichaelSmith-kr9qw 13 дней назад +1

    If It is a oil pressure related issue, makes me wonder if the oil pump is having a issue under extreme load with oil dissolution. The reason I say this is using High ethanol based fuels one of its drawbacks is the amount of dissolution, and contamination that occurs in the oil therefore requiring more frequent oil changes. On our Racecar we would change our oil every 3 races because we noticed water droplets in the oil from condensation when doing valve lash adjustments we were running Ethanol. With you living in Florida which has higher than normal humidity and the use of E85 I wonder if this is exacerbates the issue and the sensors start adjusting because the oil is getting diluted. What do I know ??? Hopefully they will get to root of the problem Paul....Frustrating as it may be.

  • @artillerybuff2000
    @artillerybuff2000 12 дней назад +1

    Simple quick check would be to temporarily install a mechanical oil pressure guage and check the actual pressure, if normal, try another oil pressure sensor. Hopefully, it is just a sensor or computer glitch. That being said, after watching this and all your other 170 videos, I am SO GLAD I didn't buy one of these. I was set to until the greedy dealer tried to rip me off with ridiculous markups. They look like they are impossible to race consistently, and in drag racing that is essential. I'll just stick to my lowly 1320, it runs like a Swiss watch, super easy to drive, and very consistent; three years now and zero issues. If I get to the point to where I cannot live without a 9 second car I'll just get a Tesla...

  • @jamesviehmann4291
    @jamesviehmann4291 10 дней назад

    Sorry for the issues with your 170 Racer X.. But, thanks for providing the codes and a breakdown of them.. Watching this it just reminds me that ALL these vehicles use a crap ton of redundant grounds.. The fact that you have codes that seam to be unrelated to just oil pressure and and cam timing just screams to me that they all have to be somehow related. If you can find how they are all related it will point you to the root cause and the fix. Sadly, this takes time and experience to diagnose. Unfortunately, the current trend with new vehicles today is to load up the "Parts Cannon" and hope that ya can fix it within three attempts.. if not, buy it back and put the customer in something else. It is sad! I have been out of the industry for a long while now but, in my time I have seen more than my share of vehicles come from the factory with loose or disconnected grounds that raised hell with the ECM and cause the same types of problems you are having with your 170. Just my thought for wat they are worth.. Good luck and hope they sort it out soon!

  • @hellcatredeye-g6582
    @hellcatredeye-g6582 8 дней назад

    When I first got mine, everything was pretty good before I started modifying. I went through several batteries because the computer didn’t have enough voltage even though the battery tested good. I had to go with the AGM gel battery … the battery tested at 12.6 V but under a load it would drop causing all sorts of check engine light problems. Hope it helps you. I’ve not had a problem since putting the gel battery in.👍 when I brought it to the dealer they kept telling me there was nothing wrong😂

    • @RacerX9
      @RacerX9  7 дней назад

      Wow.. that’s no good at all

  • @By_Any_Means_Necessary
    @By_Any_Means_Necessary 4 дня назад

    Thanks for the updates looks like dodge or Stellantis is going out bad first they stopped putting v8's in their cars, then they let dealerships raise up all their cars' prices to ridiculous prices thats why they have a overflow of inventory sitting for over a year at these lots and now there final big flagship vehicle is going out bad with most of them that cant get down any track to produce claimed times and the rest having problems keeping them off the road all together smh

  • @michaelramsey3986
    @michaelramsey3986 13 дней назад +10

    It's not a dodge problem, it's all those gremlins Stelantis brought with them. Lol

  • @timmygiles9554
    @timmygiles9554 12 дней назад +1

    That’s how my cars end up in the barn. I always feel this deep feeling right before but!!!

  • @nicholasmedall
    @nicholasmedall День назад

    The 170 will be in my prayers tn🙏🏼

  • @joed3264
    @joed3264 12 дней назад +1

    My little 2012 Mustang GT only ran a 9.01@156 mph last fall. Had to leave at idle as I was not sure if the track would hold my Hoosier Drag Radials. Well, that got me kicked off the track due to no roll cage. I plan on installing a cage this summer. I was running a 72mm pulley. I wonder what it will run with my 63mm pulley? We shall see.

  • @TheVagitarian18
    @TheVagitarian18 13 дней назад

    Yea theyre gonna have to tear into that motor a bit for those codes for sure. It should be under warranty though car is new.

  • @GoatPilot04
    @GoatPilot04 13 дней назад +2

    RacerX it seems alllllllll these Demons have a BAD 1-2 bog from mile 1 thats gotten worse. I thought it was torque management in the flash but now I'm not so sure. I'm assuming you've seen Tom Baileys do it since he got it? I still think the initial flash is to blame and junk, and probably damaging things instead of keeping them safe like it's intended.
    Star case lol. I remember those. They were absolutely useless when you REALLY needed assistance and they'd eventually have to send someone in person especially when it was something special I had in like a Viper. That's probably what they'll do for you if it's not fixed easily over the phone. The bad thing is SO MANY of these are having problems man. 🙏🏻 for you to get it resolved brother, I know how bad you wanted it and how much she means to you!

  • @paulbare6371
    @paulbare6371 13 дней назад

    good luck to you sir

  • @modernmusclecar1904
    @modernmusclecar1904 10 дней назад +1

    Weird how racers used to tinker with their setups and tweak their car to figure it out. Todays racer just goes to the dealership to reads computer codes to diagnose. Times have changed.

  • @Benzley722
    @Benzley722 13 дней назад

    It really does seem like something went awry with the oil pump and that in turn caused an issue with the camshaft position sensor, it makes sense the ECM would shut everything down to limp mode and even disable the transbrake to prevent engine damage. Unacceptable for a car this expensive and an engine platform that has been around for a long time.

  • @douglastaylor8039
    @douglastaylor8039 12 дней назад +1

    They'll take care of him because he a cheer leader for them. Plus he's a youtube podcaster.

  • @nathansummerville3972
    @nathansummerville3972 12 дней назад

    Oil pump, oil pressure sending unit or cam phaser could each or all be the issue. Worst case is engine replacement. Hopefully just a faulty sending unit. Good luck!

  • @davidskinner1046
    @davidskinner1046 13 дней назад

    Best of luck, sadly it a warranty not a guarantee, might take some time but they will sort it out, yes it sucks

  • @mr_zombiefood
    @mr_zombiefood 7 дней назад

    Could be a faulty O ring around pick up tube going into the pump. This may be causing a loss in pressure under hard torque. Gm had a issue with some of this hapening giving low oil pressure codes with no noises or anything. Have them hook up and check the pressure with a hand held oil pressue gauge. Just my thoughts on it.

  • @madmagyver9981
    @madmagyver9981 12 дней назад

    If it was just 1 code, but the 3 are definitely related.
    Multiple sensors are seeing oil pressure problems, warranty

  • @JW-lo2bh
    @JW-lo2bh 12 дней назад +10

    What's wrong with the Demon? Let's start with, it's a Dodge, and Stellantis owns Dodge. Stellantis wants Dodge to go away. Time to get rid ofvit.

  • @gcash2074
    @gcash2074 13 дней назад +1

    They will take care of it.

  • @oengland28
    @oengland28 13 дней назад +2

    Gotta love that mopar engineering

  • @shazaaaaam1987
    @shazaaaaam1987 13 дней назад

    Thanks for the update... the race against the Plaid officially has an ateriks until you car gets fixed lol

    • @Benzley722
      @Benzley722 13 дней назад

      Tesla Plaid, the aimbot of drag racing.

  • @dustineich6357
    @dustineich6357 13 дней назад +13

    I've been in the Dodge black hole for 4 months.... Welcome. 2020 Scat

    • @stateofmind4341
      @stateofmind4341 13 дней назад +1

      I've seen it twice b4 with dodge and most recent with my neighbours
      type R.
      Good luck

    • @houseguy47
      @houseguy47 12 дней назад +1

      I'm new to the dodge community, and I'm browsing the market for one. What problems are you having with your scat?

  • @dexstarksmarforcom7616
    @dexstarksmarforcom7616 9 дней назад

    Good luck finding the engineer that built it

  • @jaredglass2562
    @jaredglass2562 13 дней назад +1

    Been wondering why didnt they offer a crate with this one ? ( skinny front tires etc)

  • @steadycuzzin5813
    @steadycuzzin5813 13 дней назад +6

    My gears are shifting ruff in my Scat Pack. It only does it when you put it in manual. Even when you put it in reverse it sounds really loud.
    So I took my car to the dealership and left it over night. I came back the next day and they said nothing is wrong with it when they drove it. Smh grrrrrrrr. I need to take one of these dealership guys on a ride along so I can prove it.

    • @rodneyunderwood6236
      @rodneyunderwood6236 13 дней назад +3

      The 2023 models have a bunch of recalls all across the board

    • @OctonaBoyFresh
      @OctonaBoyFresh 13 дней назад +1

      ​@@rodneyunderwood6236The 23s are trashhh

    • @steadycuzzin5813
      @steadycuzzin5813 13 дней назад +1

      @rodneyunderwood6236 I don't have the 2023. I was gonna wait and get one. But I had no patience to wait another month or 2, and I had to get one, lol.

    • @ES-art
      @ES-art 12 дней назад +1

      You might need to reset your Transmission Control Module. I had to do this with mine, sounds similar. Hopefully that will fix it. The car will have to relearn your driving patterns.

    • @steadycuzzin5813
      @steadycuzzin5813 12 дней назад

      @ES-art How do you do that?
      Unplug the battery? I don't have any device that lets me do that. I hope that's all that's wrong with it.

  • @cosmo411
    @cosmo411 13 дней назад +15

    I feel your pain I just got my '23 Scatpack Challenger back from the dealership for a rear main oil seal leak at 610 miles on the odometer 😢

    • @jorgemoya2956
      @jorgemoya2956 13 дней назад

      Crazy my 23 300c had a bad rear differential leaking and faulty on day one didn’t know till my first oil change

    • @OctonaBoyFresh
      @OctonaBoyFresh 13 дней назад +4

      The 2023s are garbage

    • @joefromaz5467
      @joefromaz5467 13 дней назад +1

      ​@@OctonaBoyFreshchevy & Ford have there problems too....what are you driving? a honda?😂

    • @boborman5537
      @boborman5537 13 дней назад

      American cars are shit

    • @mohamedghareb5940
      @mohamedghareb5940 12 дней назад +3

      The 2023s really are bad. I paid 65k for a new 392 charger and have been bummed since day one on the quality of pretty much everything. It felt like things were falling apart since day one lmao. They raised the prices while lowering their already iffy quality. Going to the dealer for a fix is a nightmare

  • @MichaelMcWilliams-qv1kj
    @MichaelMcWilliams-qv1kj 7 дней назад

    Sorry to hear about your car

  • @jessemas27
    @jessemas27 12 дней назад

    Definitely do an oil analysis and cut the filter open. I'm assuming these cars do not have multiple displacement because of what they are meant for, but if they do, pull the supercharger and verify no metal in the actuator.

  • @loujost8133
    @loujost8133 11 дней назад

    It goes into launch mode to protect the motor once you have low oil, pressure or one of your sensors detects it’s not getting enough oil. The car will will go into limp mode to protect itself. It’ll do the same thing if you ran low on oil.

  • @roguedolphin
    @roguedolphin 12 дней назад +2

    Ya Blew Her Up Real Good.....