Terrible News on my Demon 170! This explains a lot! RacerX Live
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Dodge is covering it because you are a youtuber. Dont get it twisted. They dont need that bad press. You have a good following.
Agreed only reason
Stellantis has so much bad press from every possible angle, what’s a little more?
@@jerrykurl69 class action lawsuit would be worse lol
@@thomasj1026 Stellantis has deep pockets and plenty of lawyers. I would personally love to see them lose millions in a lawsuit.
Dude this sucks! So sorry to hear this but glad dodge is covering it! 👍👍
I just got my 2022 Hellcat back on tuesday after the engine blew up on March 3rd at only 1150 miles. Dodge replaced the engine without any charge to me. I have to applaud them for fixing the vehicle after doing all the testing( to make sure I didn't tune or modify the vehicle) paperwork and repairs in only 6 weeks exactly.
As a 13 year dodge tech and i can confirm what he's saying here. Everything that has happened to this point is exactly what would have happened at my dealer as well. These cars being at the price point they are, Stellantis is going to put out extra effort to take care of the customer (youtuber or not) and of course the engineers will want the engine back complete to look at it themselves. In a situation like this they don't want the tech at the dealer taking it apart, they want to see the whole problem for themselves. This is actually good news because they may be able to identify whether this is just a mechanical issue that is isolated to this engine, or if it's a design issue.
The owner here did not do anything wrong and is clearly using the vehicle as it was designed, stop trying to pin blame on people. Stuff happens to all vehicles, if it didn't, i wouldn't have a job.
You’ve been a dodge tech for 13 years? So how’s it going? Flat rate warranty getting better or worse? Any nightmare recalls out there?
@jerrykurl69 flat rate has continued in a downward trend for years and yes there's always a new nightmare recall 😄
@@ReignitedAutoAre you getting sick of the flat rate game and poor warranty pay times? Or maybe looking into other opportunities? Does your dealer have any kind of retirement plan?
When you get the new engine, change the oil at 500 miles and get an oil change analysis. Also do an oil analysis at every oil change. Knowledge is power!
Exactly! I do an oil analysis with every oil change. At $30, well worth it!
That’s what Lake Speed Jr, “The Motor Oil Geek” says. And I would trust that he knows a lot more about engines and oil than most.
@@shakerman55 I like his approach. I use SPEEDiagnostix as well. RacerX should get Lake on his channel to see how the break-in goes with the new engine.
Glad to hear theyre taking care of you X, Dodge needs all the positive PR they can get right now, good luck sir!!
Just the beginning of a recall.
It’s awesome Dodge is honoring the warranty… It actually amazing to me that they built such a car and even offered a warranty due to the nature of the beast. Hope you get it back soon
The car is not well engineered. you motards I mean mopar fans remember dodge proudly said they grenaded a handful of these demon149 back then? They built this car in a hurry and this is the result.
Good attitude RacerX. Hoping it works out in the end.
We always do a very early oil and filter change. 1,000 miles at most and no crazy running before that.
I am not claiming that this is the cause of the bearing failure? We do this for the long term dependability .
@@nm-qt2hb100% agree with you.. the 1st oil change should take place quickly...
No turtle mode is a real miss. Surprised in big way but might be like Roadster 1.0 versus 2.0 for Tesla or Ford GT 5.4 liter before the reboot as well. "Break in periods" are all the rage going on forever in the motorcycle World but that's because of crazy high compression. Displacement this massive definitely more to it than an oil change. Only made a few thousand of these, right? Never tested them once beyond the breaking point? What else is wrong would be my question...or worse still what isn't wrong.
@@jeffrey501greenespecially if you're going immediately to the track with e85
@@lamboking8able big time...
Hang in there RacerX. Hope you get some good news on a job and your Demon 170
Great attitude RacerX!! I’m praying for you brother 🙏🏻
Racerx is not to blame!!! I remembered dodge was talking about blowing multiple engines when testing.... I am sure this is an ongoing issue and there will be others with the same issue.... I bet they will figure it out and have that recall.... good luck with getting your car back
Look…….YES- the car was made for the drag strip and get beat on , but it doesn’t mean do it as soon as you hit 2000 miles/go past the break in period. I think it has more to do with that. CANT just thrash the car with back-to-back-to-back passes when the engine is barely broken in 😂
@4JaayTv if that was the case.... they should've specified that ,plus demonology and many other utubers have been racing without any issues... I know for a fact there was one racing before the car even allowed the ethanol to be activated, so that was before brake in.... Dodge puts locks on certain features of the car until after the first 500 miles.... These newer engines don't need thousands of miles to be broken in.... sorry I have to disagree with you on this.....
@@expectnolove9978 Well you can disagree, only if you have another resolution/reason for what happened. Otherwise you may as well just say “I think you’re wrong, but I don’t know the problem either”.
Just asking -what do you think is the cause ?
@4JaayTv I am not a mechanic, but my first guess there is an issue with the oil pump. Perhaps on startup ,it's not getting enough oil.... it's a new design for dodge and it will be worked out.... They needed more time to test the engine, but they were under too much pressure to get the Demon 170 in production
@@4JaayTv break them in like you are going to drive them. at the track we say let her rip...
Prayers to you that everything goes to plan with the car and your work.
Dodge could make 100 units of one car and they will still make millions, the cars and trucks are double the price from 2014 and nothing has changed with them. Bad quality parts, bad quality paint, every oem part is back ordered for a year. My 2019 Cummins has been to the dealership at least 30 times. Dealerships do not care. All they care about is money.
damn man, sorry to hear the news , this all makes sense considering the issues you had from the first passes to further testing , seemed like the issue was omnipresent but just got worse, hopefully you’ll be out on the track again soon
Hennessey is going to make a 1700 hp twin turbo drivetrain for the demon. Full engine swap and the engine is preserved and kept for posterity. Maybe that would be a good option...
Yea but Hennessy will want $100k for that drivetrain...lol
BUY THE CORE!!!!!! DO NOT LET THEM SEND THE ORIGINAL ENGINE BACK AS A CORE RACERX!!! Think about the 60s HEMI cars that have replacement engines vs the originally equipped 426!
good idea
The 6.2 block is fairly commonplace. I don't think swapping out the core will be an issue down the road.
Not really over 3k demons produced they’ll never have the collector value as a 1960’s 1970’s 426 hemi. Those were produced only in hundreds. Can’t compare collector value compared to cars that had low production numbers, and people didn’t treasure their cars back then like today.
@@Bob-gy6ud , it's amazing to see the genius in these comments. Try a production of about 10,000 for the 426 Hemi.
Why can't they stamp the.new block to keep future values?🤔
Sorry to hear about your demon 170 awesome car I will so glad when you get that new engine !!!!
I'm Glad Dodge Is Taking Care Of The Problem Free Of Charge 👍🤝
I can't believe i missed your live stream today. I was on the phone with my sister talking about my trip to Hawaii 2 weeks ago. Still don't have my rotating assembly yet. Just driving me nuts. Sorry about your demon 170.
Racer.X From listening to everything!I think it started with the oil pump,n everything started to deplete after that in the motor!Hope the new motor runs great,n hope everything goes better!Love yourvideos!Stay positive,n best of luck.I have a blue2020sxt challenger.
Sorry to hear all of this happened to you man, glad Dodge is taking care of you!
Hi RacerX, great video. Anything can happen, hopefully new engine will be a unicorn...
My 2015 scat went through a drive shaft at 30k. New crate engine at 106k. No racing, no abuse. Maintenence schedule kept. It looks pretty, but Dodge is bad. They are too low on their minimum specs.
Just can't beat on it like that *pause
He didn’t blow his rear, They replaced the driveshaft? The dude clearly said he didn’t abuse the car at all.
Yeah minds 2015 went thru same thing never beat the car up barley drove cuz im a OTR truck driver
Schedule maintenance is the problem. It is not recommended as soon as it should be done. No oil and filter in these vehicles should go more than 3,000 miles.
My friends 2022 scat blew motor at 15k no abuse, no offense these cars (challenger and charger) are garbage!!!!
Something let go ! I know you know what you're doing. Tough luck, pal !
Great attitude! Stuff happens yes it sucks when it does, but it’s a warranty not a guarantee! At least they are looking after you!
I am sorry you are having this issue. I am sure you did everything you could to treat the car well. I hope Dodge does the right thing and gets things fixed.
Yes, you should have changed the oil BEFORE you went to the drag strip. Just because you never heard of it just means you don’t have the correct information. I’ve been around drag racing since the 60’s, and that’s been the rule. We changed the oil every race. Good luck with your Demon.
We all just wish dodge did a bit better building these cars
After every race sounds excessive to me - was the oil coming out black with specks? I'll bet you could have changed it every other weekend or monthly and been fine.
@@captainamerica9353
Usually it’s every weekend. Per track event. Trust me. Cut oil filters open and have the oil analyzed after a weekend of hard racing, and you will see.
@@captainamerica9353
Also, today’s car manufacturers are trying to convince people that it’s okay to go 10,000 mile between oil changes, so people believe the lie. Racing a car with that amount of horsepower and pressure is extremely hard on the engine.
You're fulla shit bro. Watch motor oil geek. Not necessarily to change start up oil till 500miles. No research backs what you're saying. Old wives tail. 500 miles is fine unless you like wasting money. The motor was faulty from factory.
For a guy with horrible news, you sure are all smiles!😂
Normally with a engine break In you drive it to 500-1000 miles/km , then change the oil just because when you break a motor in you get abit of metal so you swap oil to not do damage , so next motor id recommend changing the oil right after break in before racing
I always ran Pennzoil full synthetic, with a Wix oil filter, in my 1,000+whp 2012 Mustang GT. I changed it every 3,000 miles. Zero issues.
Pennzoil ultra platinum 5w30 is better
How often do you track it within that 3k miles
@@lamboking8able 30+
@@joed3264 do you drive it outside the track too? Or track exclusive
@@lamboking8able drive it to the track and car shows - Cars and Coffee. Gas mileage is not that good on E85.
Alot of guys didn't even go through the break in process. 50 or less miles and straight to the drag strip
Sorry to hear. Laid off and now this. Hang in there, you will be back on top soon!
Nobody's fault. These are super high power cars and with racing you would expect a few failures. This isn't some old low power 302 in a Lincoln Town Car that just cruises around.
Missed you last night. A long day of trout fishing. I was awesome.
Dodge also knows that you, Butter, OC Motivator and others will blast them on RUclips if they don't treat you right in this failure.
No way to know for sure if the dealer and/or Dodge are giving out special treatment here. But it would be smart for them to do so! Not a good time for negative publicity.
Hope it all works out for u bud!
Of all of the Mopar and race stories and influence you share, your faith is the most influence. Thank you
Here's a high-five everyone mistakes for prayer. 🙏 No, seriously, thank you
Not saying this is the problem but since I was sixteen years old I've always changed my oil right after the engine breakin finished.
that is the problem
Same. The reason given by some owner's manuals is that small pieces of metal wear off a new engine during the break-in period. It's normal, and happens to all new ICE's.
What? He’s doing what it should be done
Well you were ignorant and wasted your oil😆😆😆😆
500 miles is fine
This is only going to be the beginning for the demon 170.....they blew up several in testing and these vehicles were built to race and thats why they have a warranty.....but for the people not driving and letting them sit after they payed outrageous markups only to let the warranty to run out and then have a problem will be priceless....keep up the great video's and great racing input.
wow.....with that level of predicting the future, better head to Vegas and bet it all !!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! The failure rate is very low, but its part of building this type of factory car.......
@@darknes7800 Time will tell, I hope this was a fluke. If one more RUclipsr blows up in the next couple of months then they just might have ongoing issues. Demon owners will panic like never seen before.
I have a gut feeling the manufacturer already knows exactly the problem with RacerX car without doing a tear down. Guessing that someone higher up made a poor executive decision by trying to save a buck or over budget cost cutting.
@@brianhill4995 3300 units......2-3-4 failures, not even 1% bro. Calm down, have 3 fingers of Pappy 23....its gonna be alright.
@@darknes7800 ok I was off my meds 😂 medicated now back to normal…. But most 170s sit around collecting dust a very very small number are running them hard doing wheelies at the track.
@@brianhill4995 My go to is 3 fingers of Pappy 23 and a couple of hits off a blunt.......repeat until I feel better ! Cheers !
I’ve had 3 Challengers from, 2008, 2015 and 2019 and I was always told to change the first oil at 500 miles.
RaceX, you are so level-headed and unbiased in your approach to RUclips. Great video
If there is a lot of metal in the oil did the oil light come on? Oil light on to me would mean the pickup tube screen was getting plugged up and pressure dropped. I look at it as a factory built race engine.
With past race engines I had built rule of thumb was to change the oil at 500 miles and to disect the oil filter looking for metal shavings. Glad they are honoring the warranty and hope they say what failed in the old engine.
When you get the new engine I am sure you will have to redo the break in process. So it will be a while before you hit the track again.
Glad that Dodge is going to take care of you.
Don't Worry. Be Happy.
If the transmission is also defective could cause over rev and possibly cause damage to the replacement engine.
I would suggest also dumping the transmission fluid and filter inspecting the condition of it also.
One reason I went with a manual in my RT. I no longer trust the automatics in Dodges after multiple failures in planetary gears.
Be ready RacerX. That entire drivetrain needs to be inspected before it leaves the the shop.
I used to run my Corvette in super gas class and I changed the oil at every outing.
Lol you just pointed out demonology in Kevin Van Voris. 😂😂😂 They both do exactly what you pointed out. Love it 😂😂
My break in oils always looked green, But I always change it right at 500 miles or when the rings set. Oil is cheaper than an engine.
For sure the car was designed to be raced at the track, that is what a race is made for, Dodge knows this.
Things are built and things break, it happens. It's just great are taking care of it, you did nothing wrong.
I don’t think he’s worried about resale. He wants to race the thing.
I like your car, I went the "safe" route with the natural aspiration and the '22 Shaker edition of the Scat Pack, only a few of those were made... Nice colors!! 😀 (Mine is same, TorRed with black, shaker strioe package, it's beautiful, as well). 😉
Take my advice man, once you get the Demon back sell that shit. Non matching number engine is already going to hurt the value of the car in the long run. Quality control and people who know how to work on these things are only going to get worse and worse under Stellantis. As you even pointed out they won't be able to test this properly once they "fix" it so there's a really good chance you will be going back and forth with the dealership and at some point they're going to stop helping you and that might happen if you get another nuked engine.
I agree. Sell it. It looks like Stellantis is not going to be around for much longer, at least in the U.S., and there may not be any support for it.
Modern hemi engines do not have
Engine numbers.
@@shawne7228that is not true
The engine being changed under warranty and at the dealership will not hurt the resale value at all lol.
My engine took four months to get in for my redeye
Glad you have a great service department. Mine is the WORST. Female service manager that denies everything. Pains her to have to talk to you. Revolving door for service writers because of her!
Racer x, don't take what some say the wrong way. You're doing an awesome thing and a good job with everything. The demon 170 is freaking sweet, and you just keep going with everything. I would be curious to know if your car was driven at all before you took ownership of it? If anyone drove your car before you, they may have beaten on it prior to you getting it. Meaning they could have tried to launch it or drag race your 170 before you took delivery of it. That could have damaged it. Then you went into drag racing, and the debris could have just chewed everything up more. I do believe the manufacturer does a great job assembling these cars. A little bit of debris could have gotten into the engine in the engine assembly process. I know for a fact these are the best cars Mopar has ever made. I own a '19 Scat Challenger 6 speed manual, and it rips all the time. These are the best ever made and meant to be beaten on. Keep up the good work. You will always have haters. Just ignore the hate. I value what you're doing and love this car. Our Challengers are the same color. Just keep on doing all you can every day. Never give up and keep moving forward. Mopar is the best. Don't take anything we say the wrong way. We love what you're doing, and we need more from you and other Mopar guys. I think it was some small metal debris that chewed up the internals. Thank you for the videos and updates on the 170. These cars are factory drag race cars and top shelf meant to last for a long time. Made to drag race and made to be beaten on. Get the 170 fixed and enjoy the crap out of it.
Yaaaa Blew Her Up Real Good!!!
It’s all in the oil passages, my friend.
I know it’s a little late to comment, but I’m sorry to hear it. I have two different built motors for mine thankfully mechanic😊 definitely have to change the Spark Plugs before race and injectors
Modern close tolerance manufacturing has precluded the need for long careful break-in periods. Modern parts are researched, developed and engineered to exacting standards with respect to materials, coatings, finishes and hardness. For example modern piston rings are lapped to size during manufacture to seal immediately upon installation in an assembly. One manufacturer stated in a bulletin a few years ago that a break-in procedure is more about breaking in the new owner than the drivetrain. 500 miles is more than sufficient to establish an engine's readiness for regular duty. I believe Dodge's recommendation of a 1500 mile break-in period is more of an effort to delay further failures which gives them more time to come up with a strategy for solving the problem.
Would installing an Accusump pressurized oil accumulator void the warranty? They were designed for engines without dry sump systems to ensure uninterrupted oil supply to the engine during short periods of pressure drop such as might occur in road racing or hard acceleration. Accusump also makes it possible to pre-oil an engine after oil and filter changes.
Fellow demon 170 owner and five time hellcat owner who's never had a problem but this is concerning, be glad to hear the cause and outcome.
You motivate me Garth- be well
Had a hole in my engine block from the factory on my 21 redeye widebody. Is it that?
Hi, James here, great live cast video! Racer X, would an engine oil additive - nano technology help protect engine damage?🤔
Sad to hear your Demon170 turned out to be a Lemon. Dodge (Tim Kuniskis) should buy it back or give you a totally new one. A non-matching number Demon170 is worth less than a matching number Demon.
Lol😂
Agreed
A potential buyer of a used Demon would look up its service history, and would either walk away from buying it or would want a huge price reduction once he saw that the engine was replaced.
@@John_B52_HEMIthe owner is the one who has to eat that discount.
*** Always something , had a clicking noise when I put my car into driver or reverse , brand new ‘24 Stang GT premium custom order , couldn’t find out where it was coming from , ford engineers told dealer replace both axles , wheel bearings washers nuts …took few days get her back but she is perfect yet again
Late comment Paul.. thank goodness Dodge is trying to resolve the issue with your Demon wonder if this was a isolated issue with specifics or common occurrence keep us updated my good Sir.
Yea I’m eager to see what they find out Todd. Should be interesting 🤔
I am no mechanic nor an engineer. I got my Challenger R/T last year , and this is just my opinion. The engineers told you the engine oil changed in color and caused issues in the engine. To prevent this in the future, I am suggesting a double catch can. Also, the type of oil used, I suggest Pennzoil or Amsoil depending on the engine oil rating. Again, it's better to ask an engine technician or engineers to see the best prevention method of an engine failure. Hopefully the transmission is fine. Best of luck sir, and hope to see you getting the trophies with The Demon.
I always change my oil at least twice before 3000 miles on a new car 😂 I’m a little OCD about it .
Sorry for your demon 170 😢
Sucks man. Feel bad for ya. I am always leery with a new generation of car that rolls out of the factory. That’s the reason I waited a couple years to finally pull the trigger on my 1320 scat.
This sounds like part of the same problem the 2011 gmc terrains have they consumed oil at such a fast rate that they eat the motor from the inside out.
Now for the big test back to the track
supercharger got nuked. Sucks the only reason you're getting this service so quicly and hassle free is because you're as big as you are on socials, thats 100% why they getting to you as fast as they are.
Show some respect, dude. This man’s channel alone has sold millions of dollars and Dodge services and vehicles.. hell, I bought my 50th anniversary challenger because I watched his channel.
Not to mention aftermarket mods
@@Jamesthor That has nothing to do with anything my guy. Not hating on racer at all just telling the truth, if this was a regular guy that car would still be in the shop not even looked at. Racer literally said the only reason they finally got on it is because he used his connections.
@@IxXDOMINATORXxI I'm a regular guy and went through hell and a lawsuit after the bs with dodge.
@@IxXDOMINATORXxII'm sure he's already thought about this.
Holy shit thanks CAPTAIN OBVIOUS. Unbelievable take 😅
That crazy what happened. I would like know what happen. Again this suck. I agree with you.
Oil analysis at every oil change from here on out! I know you hadn't changed your oil yet but in the future, every time you do, pay the $30 and send a sample in! You will thank me later. When you see the metal in the oil, it's too late.
I do all my own changes .. I will have to seek out a place that can do it
@@RacerX9I do all my own oil changes and maintenance as well. Blackstone Labs is a big one that is very popular. They send you sample kits for free and then you mail the sample in and pay them around $30-$35 each time to analyze the oil. I use Oil Analyzers/Horizon Labs through Amsoil.
@@RacerX9
SPEEDiagnostix
Lake Speed Jr. Yes the NASCAR drivers son. Also watch his video on break in oil, and why you should change it before 1,000 miles. He is relying on science from working with NASCAR teams and manufacturers, and being able to analyze the oil. Not relying on an engineer that might not have the same expertise. He is a Tribologist.
@@justpray365 prices are stupid high there. Way less at Horizon Labs and I think their reports are better than Mr. Speeds. I do subscribe to his channel but wouldn't pay the stupid prices for his oil analyses. All labs use the same testing methods for analyzing the oil with the exception of fuel dilution. Horizon uses the way more accurate GC method to test fuel dilution whereas Blackstone uses flash point, which way under reports fuel dilution. I would hope Lake Speed uses the GC method for fuel dilution at that price!😳
Hey racerX, I wanted to ask you about my scat pack 2023, I probly never really payed any attention to it till now, but i noticed like i can feel the wheels/ road when I'm holding the steering wheel and driving at any speed. When car is at a red light i don't notice the vibration car only 2800 miles right now, there is no shaking or steering wheel turning to one side, it is just like a vibration or feeling on the steering wheel. could the wheels have gotten off balance and needs to be rebalanced again?
Motor oil geek says to change oil after breakin?
After your break in period before you went to the track. My experience would be to perform an oil change and filter.. You don't know what happens when they're building engines before delivery.. lint debris, etc.. That would be a good piece of mind.. During the oil change you would have been able to inspect the oil quality..
Perhaps but it wouldn’t have made any difference unfortunately! I don’t typically change my break in oil until 2k miles on any of my performance cars but that’s just me! Dodge recommends 3k but because I had some passes on the car I was going to do it sooner.
I put in 45 years.. Just retired now.
In the automotive field journeyman master technician. I could tell you the things i've seen you would never believe... The first oil change, before 2,000 miles, you can put a magnet in the oil, and you can pick up fine metal debris immediately. That would give you an idea something is going on. Anyways I am glad Stellantis Dodge is taking care of the problem you are having..
Ok I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to modern mopar but really surprised Dodge is honoring the warranty for a thousand-plus hp motor with track use. If I remember correctly back in the old school days running a Hemi on the track automatically voided the warranty. Hope you get things resolved as quickly as possible.
A Hemi car had a 90 day warranty, and if you raced it that warranty was voided!
I really feel bad RX you were so looking forward to this race car I thought you’d be running in the 8s now and now you have to deal with a lot of problems good luck and get that badass car back on the track 💪🏻
I fucking knew it Racerx did NOT change the oil every two passes. They would pull that shit.
Once the EV Banshee comes out. The value of the 2022-2023 will crater.
Glad dodge is going to take care of your motor.. I have a 2022 challenger scat pack 392 that went 2 wks ago with 37000 miles... Finally today got good news they will replace...
That sucks. Was the 37,000 miles daily driving? Or did you also drag race it like Racer X?
It's a daily driver.. ..only extras I have done were more of looks like down force wing, diffuser and etc... .. So hard to believe when it just locked up and did this...
My Ray Barton Hemi runs perfect
Heads up i know of at least 6 motors that have broke and I have seen the rear down of one of them. There has been a big debate within the demon community of the causes and the spark plugs are only one of the thoughts but there is no confirmation to the exact cause. Reach out to me if you to me if you would like to get more info.
Sounds like a solid lemon law case? On new cars most states have a limited number of cumulative calendar days after which the manufacturer is required to to either buy back or replace the car
Not at all...not even close. A single 1-time issue doesn't qualify for a lemon law. JFC everyone is so quick to jump to lawsuits in this country it's ridiculous! Shit happens Bro!
@@ducktails1695 it absolutely does qualify as a lemon, google it for two fucking seconds. Having an engine blow up and take two months to be replaced is not a simple “1-time” issue, which is exactly why lemon laws also have a limit on time to fix the car.
In FL in particular where RacerX is located it only takes 15 cumulative days of repairs for a bought-new car to be considered a lemon. Number attempts has nothing at all to do with it in a large number of states.
Chevrolet is currently paying me $10k for a lemon law claim because my c8 was in the shop for the AZ requirement of 30+ days on a new car for one repair
I'm betting it ate up the camshaft. Bet a roller on the lifter seized up and took out the lob and that's why you lost a cylinder. Not your fault. Seen brand new roller lifters going bad. And once metal go through the engine it gets into everything including the bearings, heads , rockers, and crankshaft. One thing they should do for you is if the block is still good have it rebuilt to keep it number matching.
They don't number them
Quality control is the issue.
Hey Racer X, I know you have got a lot of sentiment from other folks out in the RUclips world. Really sorry this happened to your car. Honestly, I feel like Dodge should build you the 3301st car of a limited 3300 unit series of vehicle. The reason I say that is if you ever try to sell the car will the value be diminished due to God, RUclips, Country and The World knowing you do not have an original engine anymore. Also, that extensive tests and repairs have been performed on a D170 with 2200-3000 miles. Maybe some D170 owners will start to think,…”Hmm, maybe my car is next." I mean Dodge has been marking these cars up pricing them to the stars. I’ve seen them priced at $300k!!!! Crazy. Anyways. What does that do for the other 3299 D170’s market value? Idk. Maybe they will be MSRP and Market value unaffected. Maybe they all just depreciated to less than MSRP if they have been sold or not. Sorry, I don’t mean to bash your car. I will say at the very least that Dodge delivered a lemon to you. Hopefully Dodge will ground hop and perform break in procedures on the next engine in a shop. Good Luck to you buddy. Hope you are happy with the results. Gods Speed, Happy Motoring.
#$ MATCHING #$... 😮
My Papa always told me growing up. If you wanna make it, ya gotta break it.
Were you still on the original oil the engine was first started on? That should be changed at 500miles and you're golden.
Hope that the company does the right thing for you in this case. Actually, I do think it’s true that your exposure could be helping you in this situation.
I know it's sounds excessive but on factory new motors I pull filter at 500 look at pleats change at 1000 then regular changes then on out always check pleats always on everything will tell true health of what ya have
that sounds excessive
@user-dw8mj8tb2l it iz just how I've always done it got 350k out of a new 454 3 th400's though starters alternators ect
On my jailbreak I did the same thing. And same thing on prior scat pack that I owned thru 50k miles. 500/1500/3000 oil change intervals at first and now every 3k People can say what they want but the oil is the bloodline of the car. It will thank you later for the frequent changes. I grew up with a gear head dad and I was always taught to change oil every 3k or six months no matter what.
Also these hellcat motors are essentially racing engines. They need to treated and maintained liked one to ensure optimal performance throughout its life.
Won't really help anything anyways. If you start seeing metal in the oil, the engine is done and has to go to warranty anyways to get fixed. I guess that you may catch it before it completely breaks, but the dealer probably won't want to do anything until it grenades. I can't imagine going to a dealer and telling them that you found some metal in the oil after opening a filter. I will bet anything you want that they will tell you that it is normal. At least you can have them document it so that if it self destructs after the warranty period you can have something to try and get a warranty.
@@72442conv yeah agreed if you start seeing metal that’s a whole separate issue going on, can’t really stop it once it starts especially while the engine is still new
Sorry about you're car...its good that they are gonna cover it. Until Dodge does a complete analysis on what happen...its all speculation. Racer you may have found a flaw in that motor...and saved a bunch of other folk's Demons. Hope you get your new motor soon...COOL CAR:)
Why are people doing 15 inch conversion kit?. Dodge said it could do 8s from the factory .
That’s a VERY good point. And then after they make this change, they still claim that their car is “100% Stock” 🤔
It wasn’t you not following the break in period. You are a true muscle car enthusiast. Due to the number of issues that are happening across the board with the 170’s I believe it was a quality control issue in that particular plant. Why? The employees knew that they were closing the plant they worked in. Maybe they just didn’t care about the quality of the cars because of this. Just a theory. It also could have just been a weak oil pump. And that’s what I think really happened. Can’t wait to see more performance content with your car. I was finally able to get a hellcat. I absolutely love that car. It’s a 2016 Challenger in go mango paint. It has a couple of issues… but nothing that will keep it off of the road and I will take care of them. I don’t race my car but I do, on occasion, just run the crap out of it to keep it from carboning up. I’ve bored you long enough. Take care .
Personally, after the break-in period before hitting the track for the first time, I would have changed the original motor oil out. That's not to say thats why you had issues I just always as a rule of thumb on a brand new engine change the factory fill oil in the first 1k-2k miles especially before hitting the strip for the first time, but thats just me. We all have our own ideas on this topic. I'm sure it was gonna happen either way.
?? 2019 challenger redeye 13k miles salvage title needs air bag wheel and pass is 45k a good deal ?
The 170 will now have the mystique of being the Hellcat you don't want in the future collectables due to the Stalantis wizards slowly choking off the Dodge brand with a last hurrah cash grab with zero Engineers still employed - So sorry to hear the newz Racer X
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