Jin had to lose his old friend, beloved horse, yuriko, and in this ending..man who raised him. I can’t bear with the fact that he had to suffer so much for the island and its people.
Fr I feel like shogun was like jealous of Jin. The fact that the people wanted to follow jin, he was probably afraid they'll take over the Shogun someday with jin. And that'll be absolutely awesome. @@Hoss7646
The white and red leaves on the space where you duel, just noticed that and can be interpreted as the two conflicting sides, or almost like the Yin and Yang. great attention to detail! I was pretty upset as I composed my very last Haiku...
True, It took me a good 5 minutes to make a decision but ultimately I honored lord shimura, it just felt like the right thing to do considering all that he did for Jin.
@Raxes ! Really. Lord Shimura got a mission to kill Jin. From here there are 3 options: 1. He kills Jin. 2. He gets killed by Jin. 3. He gets killed by the Shogun.
Sariti S lol, nope. The actor who played Jin spared him. It makes sense why, he already separated himself from samurai and most importantly his words make you realize he can’t kill his Uncle Shimura : “I will not kill my family”. Also, Shogun doesn’t have to kill him since they already told him to train samurai to fight against Mongols.
@@dragonkamranIf so, the actor who played Jin made his choice, that's all. There is a choice and I made mine and I believe it's the right one - the one JIN SAKAI would have done in deep respect to his uncle. I won't take the other choice, aka sparing Lord Shimura because it's just wrong and defiles his legacy. Lord Shimura wished death as a warrior and Jin still has some honor to the Samurai code as we can see in the last battle so he needs to grant it. Lord Shimura asked to adopt Jin. Since it was impossible, Jin's head was the price to continue Shimura's line, but it was also a mission, a duty given by the Shogun. Why did I say the Shogun will kill him without the requested head? Because in the past Japanese war lords risked excecution if not fulfilling the Shogun's orders.
Now that some time has passed, I realize how good this game was. The evolution of Jin during the story, the beauty of the sceneries, the combat that is not so bad, the epic soundtrack and one of the best endings of video games with two spectacular choices that managed to divide the players of the game in two. In my opinion, Ghost of Tsushima beat TLOU 2 and deserved the GOTY.
I finished Tsushima about a week ago and I prefer The Last of Us by a mile. Still,on the artistic side,no game in many years will come close to this piece of art.
@@JozeManuLOL Idk what I was thinking when I wrote that comment. I replayed TLOU 2 a few months ago and the feelings that that game projects and the story that actually goes beyond revenge and portrays aspects about humanity together with a spectacular immersive feeling, makes TLOU 2 one of the best games ever (not to mention, of course, a perfect gameplay and graphics). GOT is good, but TLOU 2 is unique.
@@dj-hengel1409 you had it right the first time. TLOU2 was long, and tiresome. Spent way too much time forcing us to play as and trying to make us feel sympathy for Abby, a torturer and a col-blooded murderer. Would've been slightly better had the game ended at the The farm and skipped the California part of the story. It's just stupid that Ellie slaughters hundreds of people, including pregnant women and innocent bystanders, but when she gets to Abby it's like "nah, revenge bad". GoT had a much better and balanced portrayal of emotions, characters with actual depth that weren't just bystanders in the story and choreographed moments that left a lasting impact.
First time i finished the game i spares shimora Now realised that by killing him it's not just honoured his request but also to make peace with jin and show him that he break his honour to save is people but not abandoned it
@AlexD-os8hw Exactly, the argument that Jin was not a samurai anymore and would therefor not honor their ways is a shallow argument as he cares very deeply for his uncle and throughout the story he has always shown compassion to everyone and respected everyone's way (even respecting the choices made by a thief or a ronin) Just because he outgrew the ways of the samurai, does not mean he doesn't understand them. The Jin we see throughout the story would honor his uncle's wishes as he respects him like no other, regardless of what happened between them.
@@flannelfan433that's beside the point. The delivery in the language the game is inspired from seems honored even if it isn't the primary used one here. I hold it in high regard. :)
If you kill shimura you get the white ghost outfit. White is a pure colour that symbolises death in Japanese culture. So much detail in this game. As well as the red and white leaves showing conflicting emotions and also reflecting the colour of the outfit you obtain based on your final choice.
This game has leaved a mark on my heart. I will never forget this marvelous trip and this scene, that broke my heart. Great videogame, In my opinion one of the best ones of all times.
When you see Shimuras face when he kneels to meditate before the duel his face is full of so much emotion. Him holding back tears anguishing over the fact he was about to kill Jin. It was the last thing he wished for and it was tearing him apart on the inside. Despite not being actual family he truly loved Jin like a son. This ending affirms Jin may have disagreed with the samurais rigid code and acknowledges that although he strayed from the path but he still respected and loved Shimura like a father. This ending is all about loss, regret and family while Shimura dies with a glimmer of hope that Jin can possibly be redeemed and Shimura is remembered as a noble samurai who died for Tsushima. The other ending is a bit more grim being about rebellion, abandonment and Jin severing his ties leaving Shimura wounded but alive to regret the past for the rest of his life probably ending with him most likely being dishonored, stripped of his post and subsequently forced to commit Seppuku in front of the Shogun as atonement for both his failure to slay the ghost and his defeat. Meanwhile The Ghost spends the rest of his days in hiding as a wanted fugitive helping innocent people when he is able, striking injustices from the shadows, becoming more a myth than man. Well that's how I saw things anyway
Probably not considering they need Shimura to teach them how to defeat the mongols. No doubt dishonored but certainly not killed. The spare ending also fits because he is not bound by honor anymore so he has no reason to honor his request. I actually like both endings because they make sense! It seems in character for Jin too. Hopefully if we get a GoT2, we see Jin learning that you need both honor and ghost/dishonor(?). Because if you are bound too much by dishonor, you are nothing but a murderer but if you are bound by honor than you are rigid and inflexible.
I just watched the English version of this for the first time in a reaction video, and it’s so much worse. The catch in his throat when he says he will make sure he’s remembered as a father, and that heartbreaking scream after the act are so powerful in the Japanese dub
What a finale! When I played it for the first time, I had tears in my eyes as soon as the song started playing. I still get a bit emotional, watching it now on RUclips. Killing Lord Shimura, giving him an honorable death, was, in my book, the "correct" decision.
Crap I spared him to. At the time I felt like it was the right thing but afterwards I felt wrong. It felt like we separated on bad terms and if you kill him it's like saying good bye on good terms. Let me go back dammit!
I personally align with the honourable route but I went with the spare option. To say that the honour route is the true nature of the game means you weren't paying attention. The natural progression of the game is Jin embracing the ghost and not letting the shackles of tradition get in the way of his belief system. So while I tried my hardest to play honourably and even agreed with Shimura majority of the time the Spare ending was clearly the more logically consistent with the theme of the game. I think both endings are just as good quality wise though.
@@Australian_Prometheus yeah I agree after time to think to. Killing him is sort of a more tragic ending but in a good sorta way I think. I felt a little weird after sparing him. But if you think about it sparing him I feel like is more of the logical way for jins journey. Not that either ending is wrong or right, it's what the player feels. But if you really want to know. The guy who voiced jins character chose spare as well. And the director of the game said that the spare option is the canon one. And future dlc may go off of that ending.
@The FunSociety i get what you're saying and i agree to a certain extent but the scene is about both characters. You can't just dismiss a whole character arc. The entire game centred around the theme of Jin letting go of tradition and killing Shimura in a final farewell to his honour of sorts definitely makes sense and i really enjoyed it and even somewhat wish i chose it but if the spare ending is indeed canon it would be safe to assume the developers would agree that the spare ending makes more sense for his character arc.
Even though I know the other ending is canon, I still badly want this ending to be the true ending. Throughout the whole game, Shimura has disliked and even despised the way Jin was going about saving people and he made it very clear to Jin but the whole time Shimura’s love for Jin outweighed his actions. The only reason he was going to kill Jin was because of the Shogun, which if he defies his orders than it will go against everything he has lived by so he has no choice but to at least try. I feel as if Shimura didn’t want to but was bound by honor and loyalty to the Shogun. To repay the love Shimura has shown to Jin for all of his life, the least Jin can do, even if he doesn’t believe in it, is to give Shimura the honorable death that he deserves. I’d rather see Jin make this decision out of love rather than make a decision based on his morality. In my opinion, sparing Shimura is a heartless act from Jin. You can argue that he was acting heartless through the means that he killed others throughout the game, but why did he do it in the first place? He did it because he loved his family/clan and his nation that he fought for so much that it led him to using unhonorable methods. He never once did anything for himself in the game and was solely focused on saving Tsushima, so why now at the very end of the game he decides to act selfish and unloving by sparing Shimura completely threw me for a loop.
Because Tsushima needs a leader. A post war country is ripe for all kinds of debauchery. Shimura is respected and more importantly known to the people AND the war isn’t done at this point. Jin sacrifices the last of his honor for the same reason he started down that path: to save his homeland.
@@811chelseafc the Shogun would probably depose Shimura if he lived anyway for failing the mission, and Shimura said that clans from the mainland were moving in to take control
I personally spared him, but i had never seen the alternate ending until now. To say it brought tears to my eyes, especially hearing Jin scream in agony, is an understatement
I wonder if anyone else noticed but this is the only fight in the entire game where you dont get finished off if you lose. Shimira just stands there and talks to Jin until he dies instead of cutting his neck or piercing him with the katana like all the other opponents. Love how the developers pay attention to even such small details
I killed him because I thought of all the possible scenarios of his future life from now on, including the possibility of him joining Jin in the future by giving up his own honor and give Jin the reason regarding the use of the poison... And I realized his life would be nothing but emptiness in the future. It's "better" this way. Let him die with his honor before he has the chance of losing it. So that Jin may pass down Shimura's wisdom for the future generations, and hopefully, create a new law that balaces both the Shogun and the Ghost's code.
Shimura would never abandon his honor, quite literally to his dying breath, his honor is everything to him. If he was willing to abandon his honor he'd have never even considered killing Jin for the Shogun. He was downright honorable to a flaw, the man was dedicated to his belief and that's why losing Jin hurt him so deeply, because he had instilled those same beliefs in his "son" as well.
@@alphacraig2001 it's not just that. Shimura would always be looked down by the Shogun and the other samurais as they might believe his defeat means he's not truly commited to capturing Jin, not to mention he could become bitter over time by seeing more people join the Ghost, leading him down a darker and more dishonorable path than Jin's. With the difference being he can't justify that path, since there's really no greater evil to be defeated. Besides, throught his death, Shimura would leave behind a legacy of honor. And Jin could use that legacy to one day bring balance to both the samurai code and the Ghost's tactics.
I didn't want to choose this. Jin might not have been a samurai anymore, but Lord Shimura was. And an honorable death is what he deserves. And its better than the dishonor he may have faced telling the Shogun he failed at his task, being stripped of his rank and outcast. So really, it was also a mercy. A painful one, for Jin.
Both endings are good. If you spare shimura it’s because you choose to be the ghost means free from Samurais beliefs. If you choose to give the honor shimura wants, you get a meaningful goodbyes from the two characters.
Personally I hope they didn't tell the voice actors there was an alternative ending and gave them this script. The scream reminds me so much of the pure agony of Arthur Morgan's "I am Afraid" from RDR2. Real emotion, powerful tool.
I remember playing this final level holding back tears in my eyes. Felt like the game could have gone into their relationship further, but the setting and music made everything so moving, it pushed me over the edge.
Also, it‘s really about HOW you kill him. If I knew it‘s going to be this emotional and without any bad feelings on Jin feelings, I would have chosen to kill him.
@@RG_Adapt TLOU2 Was fantastic in some aspects, but it failed HORRIBLY to make us feel bad or side with Abby, and almost all of us wanted to kill Abby in the end SO bad. I can understand that TLOU2 is about hate, and that the world in TLOU2 is cruel and everything, but i would had liked if they changed some stuff, like imagine Ellie found Joel and Tommy earlier, this time, they haven't meet Abby's group yet and when trying to think about a plan to escape the infected, some of them would lurk in and Joel, Tommie and Ellie would escape and later on they find the group Abby was sided with, they team up to escape the infected, and when Joel, Tommy and Ellie warm up a bit, Abby's group betrays Joel's group, then Joel protects Ellie but ends up dying while doing so. I think that would of had made for a better and longer game.
@@RG_Adapt as a standalone game, tlou2 was actually amazing. the thing that bothered me the most about it (at least for me personally) is how it ended. ellie literally lost everything, went one-woman-army mode and killed countless people, only to let abby live and escape. It's really stupid considering abby wouldve just died miserably had ellie not come, then ellie came along, let her loose, and didnt finish her off. That just left a bad aftertaste and ruined the game for me
I think the Japanese dub holds more weight than the English one, both were well done but I prefer the Japanese one. Can't wait for it to come on pc if it happens
I played this in Kurosawa mode, which is purely in Japanese, because it further enhances the experience of this game. And, I can most definitely say that this game deserved the 2020 Game of the Year award, but sadly it was robbed thanks to the garbage Woke of Us 2.
I’d love to play my second through in Kurosawa mode (black and white with Japanese dub) but I just can’t imagine the game without Daisuke Tsuji’s voice, it just doesn’t feel right without him
While I know that maybe it would be better for Shimura, a true Samurai, to kill him I couldn‘t get it over my heart. I came on RUclips and after seeing this I like this tragic ending even more. Made me almost cry. THIS is the better ending.
I think it's interesting that out of my group of friends I was the only one to choose the kill option. Both make sense but to me it just felt more fitting to make sure he leaves with his honor than as a failure. Also that final shot hits so hard.
I have just finished the game. I decided to spare Shimura, and I think to kill him is a grave mistake and would put Tsushima (and maybe Japan to an extent) in another war. I even think that Khotun Khan might have won in some way despite being defeated in the end.
Where are the second, the third, the fourth and more like buttons?!! I want to like it each time I come back to see this masterpiece but it's allready done 😅
Jin's last scream sounds so real it gives me chills.
Legendary
Zoro voice actor
I envy that scream of pure passion and pain. This actor is one of a kind.
Literal chills
It scared the shit out of me. Had the surround sound on 🤪
Eyes that saw my pain
A fate neither of us want
This is were we part ..
I did the same damn
Hands that shaped the world.
Destiny divides our souls.
This is where we part...
Strength in every step.
A bond broken forever.
This is where we part...
Eyes that saw my pain
A bond broken forever
Will death redeem us..?
Hands that shaped the world
A bond broken vorever
Wil death redeem us?
- Find me in the next life
- I will
*The music start and the cry fest begin*
"I will wait for you in the Pure Land."
"Yes."
This is how you do a final boss battle
Perfect ending indeed. 🙏👍
Jin had to lose his old friend, beloved horse, yuriko, and in this ending..man who raised him. I can’t bear with the fact that he had to suffer so much for the island and its people.
And the shogun want to punish him
@@tiberiusvirus9342all because of “honor” that was used against them every step of their struggle successfully, it’s a weakness
@@Guccipoooch the shogun wanted to punish him because he was afraid the ghost’s legend would exceed his and cause unrest, just how Japan was back then
Fr I feel like shogun was like jealous of Jin. The fact that the people wanted to follow jin, he was probably afraid they'll take over the Shogun someday with jin. And that'll be absolutely awesome. @@Hoss7646
HEY he lost taka
too ;c
Both the English and Japanese voice actors put a great deal of emotion in Jin. Gave me goosebumps
Japanese’s way better
Roronoa zoro!
ALPHA LEO No! English is better
Scarlet The Cat 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ lol why you think that?
@@scarletthecat632 what a great taste
The white and red leaves on the space where you duel, just noticed that and can be interpreted as the two conflicting sides, or almost like the Yin and Yang. great attention to detail!
I was pretty upset as I composed my very last Haiku...
Also, the outfit you hey after you finish the game depends on your choice!
If Jin won't kill Lord Shimura - the Shogun will.
True, It took me a good 5 minutes to make a decision but ultimately I honored lord shimura, it just felt like the right thing to do considering all that he did for Jin.
@@okami9484 You made the right decision. The decision that Jin would have done. Well done.
@Raxes ! Really. Lord Shimura got a mission to kill Jin. From here there are 3 options:
1. He kills Jin.
2. He gets killed by Jin.
3. He gets killed by the Shogun.
Sariti S lol, nope. The actor who played Jin spared him. It makes sense why, he already separated himself from samurai and most importantly his words make you realize he can’t kill his Uncle Shimura : “I will not kill my family”.
Also, Shogun doesn’t have to kill him since they already told him to train samurai to fight against Mongols.
@@dragonkamranIf so, the actor who played Jin made his choice, that's all. There is a choice and I made mine and I believe it's the right one - the one JIN SAKAI would have done in deep respect to his uncle. I won't take the other choice, aka sparing Lord Shimura because it's just wrong and defiles his legacy. Lord Shimura wished death as a warrior and Jin still has some honor to the Samurai code as we can see in the last battle so he needs to grant it.
Lord Shimura asked to adopt Jin. Since it was impossible, Jin's head was the price to continue Shimura's line, but it was also a mission, a duty given by the Shogun. Why did I say the Shogun will kill him without the requested head? Because in the past Japanese war lords risked excecution if not fulfilling the Shogun's orders.
2:38, that face, that tears. It destroyed my soul
Now that some time has passed, I realize how good this game was. The evolution of Jin during the story, the beauty of the sceneries, the combat that is not so bad, the epic soundtrack and one of the best endings of video games with two spectacular choices that managed to divide the players of the game in two. In my opinion, Ghost of Tsushima beat TLOU 2 and deserved the GOTY.
It did win the GOTY for real gamers dont worry man. This game was a masterpiece and those awards are just shit to be honest.
I finished Tsushima about a week ago and I prefer The Last of Us by a mile.
Still,on the artistic side,no game in many years will come close to this piece of art.
@@JozeManuLOL Idk what I was thinking when I wrote that comment. I replayed TLOU 2 a few months ago and the feelings that that game projects and the story that actually goes beyond revenge and portrays aspects about humanity together with a spectacular immersive feeling, makes TLOU 2 one of the best games ever (not to mention, of course, a perfect gameplay and graphics). GOT is good, but TLOU 2 is unique.
@Dj-Hengel then delete your comment, you hypocritical backtracker
@@dj-hengel1409 you had it right the first time. TLOU2 was long, and tiresome. Spent way too much time forcing us to play as and trying to make us feel sympathy for Abby, a torturer and a col-blooded murderer. Would've been slightly better had the game ended at the The farm and skipped the California part of the story. It's just stupid that Ellie slaughters hundreds of people, including pregnant women and innocent bystanders, but when she gets to Abby it's like "nah, revenge bad".
GoT had a much better and balanced portrayal of emotions, characters with actual depth that weren't just bystanders in the story and choreographed moments that left a lasting impact.
First time i finished the game i spares shimora
Now realised that by killing him it's not just honoured his request but also to make peace with jin and show him that he break his honour to save is people but not abandoned it
@AlexD-os8hw Exactly, the argument that Jin was not a samurai anymore and would therefor not honor their ways is a shallow argument as he cares very deeply for his uncle and throughout the story he has always shown compassion to everyone and respected everyone's way (even respecting the choices made by a thief or a ronin) Just because he outgrew the ways of the samurai, does not mean he doesn't understand them. The Jin we see throughout the story would honor his uncle's wishes as he respects him like no other, regardless of what happened between them.
This ending dropped my jaw. Listening to the original Japanese made it feel more real and gut wretching. It stayed with me for a long time.
I feel it. ☹️ Its so emotional and epic. 😢😩 But love for the ghost and Shimura, bothe are right.♥️
A dart going up your entire spine chills 11/10
Japanese is not the original language for the game
@@flannelfan433that's beside the point. The delivery in the language the game is inspired from seems honored even if it isn't the primary used one here.
I hold it in high regard. :)
@@EliteLenny223-Main yh in retrospect idk why I made that comment
If you kill shimura you get the white ghost outfit. White is a pure colour that symbolises death in Japanese culture. So much detail in this game. As well as the red and white leaves showing conflicting emotions and also reflecting the colour of the outfit you obtain based on your final choice.
This game has leaved a mark on my heart. I will never forget this marvelous trip and this scene, that broke my heart. Great videogame, In my opinion one of the best ones of all times.
When you see Shimuras face when he kneels to meditate before the duel his face is full of so much emotion. Him holding back tears anguishing over the fact he was about to kill Jin. It was the last thing he wished for and it was tearing him apart on the inside. Despite not being actual family he truly loved Jin like a son.
This ending affirms Jin may have disagreed with the samurais rigid code and acknowledges that although he strayed from the path but he still respected and loved Shimura like a father. This ending is all about loss, regret and family while Shimura dies with a glimmer of hope that Jin can possibly be redeemed and Shimura is remembered as a noble samurai who died for Tsushima.
The other ending is a bit more grim being about rebellion, abandonment and Jin severing his ties leaving Shimura wounded but alive to regret the past for the rest of his life probably ending with him most likely being dishonored, stripped of his post and subsequently forced to commit Seppuku in front of the Shogun as atonement for both his failure to slay the ghost and his defeat. Meanwhile The Ghost spends the rest of his days in hiding as a wanted fugitive helping innocent people when he is able, striking injustices from the shadows, becoming more a myth than man.
Well that's how I saw things anyway
Probably not considering they need Shimura to teach them how to defeat the mongols.
No doubt dishonored but certainly not killed. The spare ending also fits because he is not bound by honor anymore so he has no reason to honor his request.
I actually like both endings because they make sense! It seems in character for Jin too.
Hopefully if we get a GoT2, we see Jin learning that you need both honor and ghost/dishonor(?). Because if you are bound too much by dishonor, you are nothing but a murderer but if you are bound by honor than you are rigid and inflexible.
The japanese dub>>>the english dub. Can´t change my mind
Cell: well good for you, you’re wrong
Everyone have their own preference…
@@mookiestewart3776 no i´m not
I just watched the enish version of the ending and I'm so glad I played this game in Japanese how immersion breaking it is
I just watched the English version of this for the first time in a reaction video, and it’s so much worse. The catch in his throat when he says he will make sure he’s remembered as a father, and that heartbreaking scream after the act are so powerful in the Japanese dub
What a finale! When I played it for the first time, I had tears in my eyes as soon as the song started playing. I still get a bit emotional, watching it now on RUclips. Killing Lord Shimura, giving him an honorable death, was, in my book, the "correct" decision.
The better ending... I spared him but I cheated myself from the true nature of the story progression and character development.
Crap I spared him to. At the time I felt like it was the right thing but afterwards I felt wrong. It felt like we separated on bad terms and if you kill him it's like saying good bye on good terms. Let me go back dammit!
I personally align with the honourable route but I went with the spare option. To say that the honour route is the true nature of the game means you weren't paying attention. The natural progression of the game is Jin embracing the ghost and not letting the shackles of tradition get in the way of his belief system. So while I tried my hardest to play honourably and even agreed with Shimura majority of the time the Spare ending was clearly the more logically consistent with the theme of the game. I think both endings are just as good quality wise though.
@@Australian_Prometheus yeah I agree after time to think to. Killing him is sort of a more tragic ending but in a good sorta way I think. I felt a little weird after sparing him. But if you think about it sparing him I feel like is more of the logical way for jins journey. Not that either ending is wrong or right, it's what the player feels. But if you really want to know. The guy who voiced jins character chose spare as well. And the director of the game said that the spare option is the canon one. And future dlc may go off of that ending.
@@spaghetti941 yeh i heard it was canon. Makes sense. Whichever ending you chose its still a masterpiece of a game.
@The FunSociety i get what you're saying and i agree to a certain extent but the scene is about both characters. You can't just dismiss a whole character arc. The entire game centred around the theme of Jin letting go of tradition and killing Shimura in a final farewell to his honour of sorts definitely makes sense and i really enjoyed it and even somewhat wish i chose it but if the spare ending is indeed canon it would be safe to assume the developers would agree that the spare ending makes more sense for his character arc.
Now than i found out this guys are played by the voices of Zoro and Solid Snake I love it even more!
Shimura's voice actor also voices Blackbeard in One Piece. Lmao.
and Taka voice actor is ussop
Even though I know the other ending is canon, I still badly want this ending to be the true ending. Throughout the whole game, Shimura has disliked and even despised the way Jin was going about saving people and he made it very clear to Jin but the whole time Shimura’s love for Jin outweighed his actions. The only reason he was going to kill Jin was because of the Shogun, which if he defies his orders than it will go against everything he has lived by so he has no choice but to at least try. I feel as if Shimura didn’t want to but was bound by honor and loyalty to the Shogun. To repay the love Shimura has shown to Jin for all of his life, the least Jin can do, even if he doesn’t believe in it, is to give Shimura the honorable death that he deserves. I’d rather see Jin make this decision out of love rather than make a decision based on his morality. In my opinion, sparing Shimura is a heartless act from Jin. You can argue that he was acting heartless through the means that he killed others throughout the game, but why did he do it in the first place? He did it because he loved his family/clan and his nation that he fought for so much that it led him to using unhonorable methods. He never once did anything for himself in the game and was solely focused on saving Tsushima, so why now at the very end of the game he decides to act selfish and unloving by sparing Shimura completely threw me for a loop.
You explained it well
Because Tsushima needs a leader. A post war country is ripe for all kinds of debauchery. Shimura is respected and more importantly known to the people AND the war isn’t done at this point. Jin sacrifices the last of his honor for the same reason he started down that path: to save his homeland.
Agree. The decision is not about Jin's point of view, it's about Shimura's request. He wanted an honorable death. I always choose this ending.
@@811chelseafc the Shogun would probably depose Shimura if he lived anyway for failing the mission, and Shimura said that clans from the mainland were moving in to take control
Eyes that saw my pain....
A fate neither of us want...
Will death redeem us....
Both english and japanese dub did really good, each one of them are on par with each other that it's insane how well they did! Excellent.
No matter how many times I replay or re watch this moment it always gives me goosebumps (just from how amazing it is)
I personally spared him, but i had never seen the alternate ending until now. To say it brought tears to my eyes, especially hearing Jin scream in agony, is an understatement
I knew Zoro would be the one to kill Blackbeard
Am I hallucinating or are the legs of the guy in your pfp moving? I swear this can't just be me, what is up with your profile picture?
@@fellascallmethedrink Just you man
I love that both endings make sense for the character
Sucker punch is good at that
I cried through the whole fight
I teared up. For me crying my ass off in a final fight was TLOU Pt 2
Everybody gangsta until shimura starts laughing: ze ha ha ha ha 😂
Goty of tsushima!
Well yes but actually no. Both of TLOU 2 and GOT had great stories.
@@gontandutry3396 thats where you're wrong buster
@@felixisdrained 😂😂😂😂
Too bad the Last of Woke 2 stole the GOTY trophy
GHOST OF TSUSHIMA the real GOTY 2020
I wonder if anyone else noticed but this is the only fight in the entire game where you dont get finished off if you lose. Shimira just stands there and talks to Jin until he dies instead of cutting his neck or piercing him with the katana like all the other opponents. Love how the developers pay attention to even such small details
His scream is much more painful in english version.
the English va did a great job
I killed him because I thought of all the possible scenarios of his future life from now on, including the possibility of him joining Jin in the future by giving up his own honor and give Jin the reason regarding the use of the poison... And I realized his life would be nothing but emptiness in the future. It's "better" this way. Let him die with his honor before he has the chance of losing it. So that Jin may pass down Shimura's wisdom for the future generations, and hopefully, create a new law that balaces both the Shogun and the Ghost's code.
Shimura would never abandon his honor, quite literally to his dying breath, his honor is everything to him. If he was willing to abandon his honor he'd have never even considered killing Jin for the Shogun. He was downright honorable to a flaw, the man was dedicated to his belief and that's why losing Jin hurt him so deeply, because he had instilled those same beliefs in his "son" as well.
@@alphacraig2001 it's not just that. Shimura would always be looked down by the Shogun and the other samurais as they might believe his defeat means he's not truly commited to capturing Jin, not to mention he could become bitter over time by seeing more people join the Ghost, leading him down a darker and more dishonorable path than Jin's. With the difference being he can't justify that path, since there's really no greater evil to be defeated.
Besides, throught his death, Shimura would leave behind a legacy of honor. And Jin could use that legacy to one day bring balance to both the samurai code and the Ghost's tactics.
@@JabamiLain I agree with you 100% man. This is why I chose to kill Shimura
damn, this music hits different with this ending
I loved both the sub and dub renditions of this scene. Such an amazing ending.
I cried at the ending😢😭
it teared my heart apart. It was so sad, I didn't know what to choose.
Kazuya Nakai. What a badass VA
9:55 Perfect... *in tears* they are all perfect.....
Is that a "the last samurai" reference? 😭
@@felixbugia2050 Seemed appropriate.
I didn't want to choose this. Jin might not have been a samurai anymore, but Lord Shimura was. And an honorable death is what he deserves.
And its better than the dishonor he may have faced telling the Shogun he failed at his task, being stripped of his rank and outcast. So really, it was also a mercy. A painful one, for Jin.
i cried, so are you
in ps5 version the heartbeat of lord shimura became the viberation on the duelsense
I abandoned the tale after killing Shimura and getting the white armor paint, then I redid the mission and got both rewards after sparing him
1:34 the amount of emotion put into the voices/breathing and the facial animations is astounding
the tears in shimuras eye was painful to look at
The actor who played Jin. Too tier, crying just rewatching this.
Both endings are good. If you spare shimura it’s because you choose to be the ghost means free from Samurais beliefs. If you choose to give the honor shimura wants, you get a meaningful goodbyes from the two characters.
Personally I hope they didn't tell the voice actors there was an alternative ending and gave them this script. The scream reminds me so much of the pure agony of Arthur Morgan's "I am Afraid" from RDR2. Real emotion, powerful tool.
Who is here after ghost of yotei trailer?
Shimura's final swing of his katana slowed down as he deep down didn't want to kill Jin
Kazuya Nakai is a fucking monster man, incredible VA
Same with Otsuka Akio
@@davidtimmer596 have you checked his IMDb lately? he has more credits than anyone i've ever seen haha, he's everywhere
Still true to the Code of Samurai...
if you didn't know .. jin sakai's voice actor is the one who did zoro's voice ( one piece ) ..
this ending is so fucking raw dude i love it
I remember playing this final level holding back tears in my eyes. Felt like the game could have gone into their relationship further, but the setting and music made everything so moving, it pushed me over the edge.
and then i wish i knew japanese language better - because staring down all the time at the subs kills the atmoshphere ..
At 10:14 you can see Jin hugging Shimura 😭
Omg i just noticed that thx to you 😢😢😢
You know a Video Game is special when you finish it in English and Japanese. In color and in Black and white.
The drums in the last stab and the scream always hits hard 😭
Also, it‘s really about HOW you kill him. If I knew it‘s going to be this emotional and without any bad feelings on Jin feelings, I would have chosen to kill him.
This hurts way more than the other ending...wow.
Quite possibly the saddest ending to any game ever.
Did someone beat lord Shimura on nightmare difficulty? I literally spent 40 tries to do that
The ending the last of us 2 failed to capture
LOU2 was fantastic
@@RG_Adapt lol
@@RG_Adapt lol
@@RG_Adapt TLOU2 Was fantastic in some aspects, but it failed HORRIBLY to make us feel bad or side with Abby, and almost all of us wanted to kill Abby in the end SO bad.
I can understand that TLOU2 is about hate, and that the world in TLOU2 is cruel and everything, but i would had liked if they changed some stuff, like imagine Ellie found Joel and Tommy earlier, this time, they haven't meet Abby's group yet and when trying to think about a plan to escape the infected, some of them would lurk in and Joel, Tommie and Ellie would escape and later on they find the group Abby was sided with, they team up to escape the infected, and when Joel, Tommy and Ellie warm up a bit, Abby's group betrays Joel's group, then Joel protects Ellie but ends up dying while doing so.
I think that would of had made for a better and longer game.
@@RG_Adapt as a standalone game, tlou2 was actually amazing. the thing that bothered me the most about it (at least for me personally) is how it ended. ellie literally lost everything, went one-woman-army mode and killed countless people, only to let abby live and escape. It's really stupid considering abby wouldve just died miserably had ellie not come, then ellie came along, let her loose, and didnt finish her off. That just left a bad aftertaste and ruined the game for me
I think the Japanese dub holds more weight than the English one, both were well done but I prefer the Japanese one. Can't wait for it to come on pc if it happens
Original language is english
@Spacebattler That maybe true but since the setting is in Feudal Japan and dub makes the story seem more real
I played this in Kurosawa mode, which is purely in Japanese, because it further enhances the experience of this game. And, I can most definitely say that this game deserved the 2020 Game of the Year award, but sadly it was robbed thanks to the garbage Woke of Us 2.
thank god a japanese dub
“Wars are won by those who are willing to sacrifice everything” - Kratos
Feels bad: The video game 🎮.
I’d love to play my second through in Kurosawa mode (black and white with Japanese dub) but I just can’t imagine the game without Daisuke Tsuji’s voice, it just doesn’t feel right without him
While I know that maybe it would be better for Shimura, a true Samurai, to kill him I couldn‘t get it over my heart. I came on RUclips and after seeing this I like this tragic ending even more. Made me almost cry. THIS is the better ending.
as a scene this is much better than the other choice , has much more emotion
BUT I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE KILLING SHIMURA IS AN OPTION
What a way to end a fucking game!😭🖤
Thank you for this recording. I've just finished the game with another ending....which is more dramatic
Bad ending is good ending
05:53 Jin hands are shaking
I think it's interesting that out of my group of friends I was the only one to choose the kill option. Both make sense but to me it just felt more fitting to make sure he leaves with his honor than as a failure. Also that final shot hits so hard.
“You have no honor.” “And you are a slave to it.” When I heard that I knew things could only end this way. What a great ending.
Why is your health so low bruh
Probably speed run?
how did you defeat the Khan with such shit stats ?
That's fucked up only in a video game one would choose to kill a family member. I spared shimura's life even if it's fictional
It's quite common in the ancient times with powerful people. Politics, betrayal, Wealth, religion and power...
Zoro vs Blackbeard
One of the greatest games ever made
Why did you cut out certain parts? The music whas getting Godlike there and godlike battle.
This moment is very Strong with the all Émotions !
Dam this was way better than sparing him. I messed up.
9:40 Se me parte el cora :(
The only game that made me feel the emotion that this made me feel is Red dead redemption 2😭
I'm sorry Uncle
Had to get the White Ghost Drip tho 😭
Look little ghost Jr, wanna cry? ;-;
Rest in peace uncle Shimura...
9:37
May your samurai spirit lives on
This game is hands down the best Playstation exclusive it was perfect, it should have gotten the GOTY award
What a game
Our final day together.... It is beautiful...
I have just finished the game. I decided to spare Shimura, and I think to kill him is a grave mistake and would put Tsushima (and maybe Japan to an extent) in another war.
I even think that Khotun Khan might have won in some way despite being defeated in the end.
I played it for the second run Yesterday and this time decided to kill Lord Shimura. I loved the game even more. Jin's screams of pain are haunting
Jin's face said
I let him live
One of the best games i ever played. 👍🏽 And this duel, i cryt.😥 Its the moste emotional gaming moment since the fight again the boss in mgs3. 😢
What a fucking game! 🙌
👏👏👏
The canon ending
Where are the second, the third, the fourth and more like buttons?!!
I want to like it each time I come back to see this masterpiece but it's allready done 😅
im sorry that i laughed when he screamed but sh*t hit different