Driver briefing Suzuka 1990
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- The driver briefing before the Grand Prix of 1990 on Suzuka. After the commotion in 1989 with Senna and Prost and a comment of Piquet Senna leaves the room because he became mad.
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I don't think he was pissed with Piquet, he was pissed with the officials.
Where did you see he was pissed with Piquet?
@@rivierestudio1977 a comment from 12 years ago. At that time there weren't replies on youtube. He was talking with someone from the main comments
@@d68st90 The words of a man who's been around
Per me, aveva capito che cercavano ogni cavillo pur di fermarlo. Non sapevano più cosa fare. Miserabili... Tanto piccoli rispetto ad Ayrton.
senna is quite the legend. i love how he isnt afraid to leave somewhere that he doesnt like
Well not quite, the reason Senna is annoyed is because he was saying the exact thing that Piquet was saying the year before when he got disqualified for doing the exact thing Piquet said drivers should be allowed to do, yet when Senna said it in 1990 no one listened to him or backed him up so he was disqualified from the race for it.
I think he is just so annoyed because when someone other than him says it, suddenly everyone just agrees with them.
team orders . They all knew that they had to play along or no new contract for next season
You know you fucked up when Nelson Piquet sides with Senna seeing as they hated each other.
Hahah, Senna collided with Prost, LOOOOOOOOOOL. You sure fits 2010s F1 era.
In 1989 Senna needed assistance to restart his engine by pushing his car. This guy often was unfair.
I think Senna was annoyed because it was a wind-up by Piquet and the other drivers...all suddenly deciding that missing the chicane was the right thing to do, the officials agreeing, and Senna losing his temper...
Oh man....Senna was one in a million
So there's about 7 thousand more like him.
7 thousand people in the entire world isn't much ..
Never...
@@wss33 Maybe even more, but they didn't or don't get money to become pilot.
@@wss33 yes.
There are countless people out there that could beat the best in any given sport if interest and opportunity is there. But 7000 is nothing
you cut the part where piquet says "There was a big fuck up last year with ayrton, why make the same mistake again?!"
Yo Piquet 😂😂😂😂 then you know Ayrton was pissed to the point he had to go!!!! Ayrton was very upset.
amazing Piquet
@@robertgreen2810 chateado? ele ficou foi louco da vida, Piquet desmascarou a farsa do ano anterior, se reparar bem no vídeo dos fiscais empurrando o carro logo apos a batida estava no traçado da pista, Senna que direcionou o carro para fora creio eu pensando na segurança dos fiscais que empurravam o carro que a propósito era a coisa certa a ser feita.
@@2mmarcelorj É verdade, Nelson Piquet decidiu desmascarar a estupidez de ALAIN Prost para o Campeonato e JEAN MARIE BALESTRE FOI PIOR QUE PROST, Saudações da Cidade do México
At least Nelson Piquet had the balls to say something. The rest of them kept their mouths shut like teachers pets.
If Piquet had said it past year, Senna and Piquet would be heart brothers. Perhaps both would get drunks after each race.
It wouldn't surprise me if Piquet commented solely to wind Ayrton up, well known for his mischievous ways........
@@uncomfortabletruths588 Lol, I believe so and it makes me like him even more, he was always very good in the psychologic fight instead Ayrton was the dramatic theatrical kind. Anyway I think Ayrton was already in that briefing down to take Prost out of the track in the first corner.
@@uncomfortabletruths588 he got both of them with that statement. He hated almost anyone on the grid lol
@Crixus Mauperthuis Piquet's dislike of Senna was a Rio/Sao Paolo thing. The first time Senna met Piquet when Senna was driving in a lesser formula Piquet wouldn't even shake his hand. Senna did nothing to earn Piquet's dislike only becoming more popular in Brazil than him. At least he was true to his word. He called Prost a 'two faced cunt' for going to Senna's funeral.
A tad hard on Prost given that Prost cried at Senna's funeral. Real despisement that. Isn't it cretinous?
Jeez how handsome and charismatic this great man was 💔😥
Balestre was the worst cancer to the F1 that time....
him and Bernie
I always wanted to punch him
@Crixus Mauperthuis Dude i see you commenting on a lot of F1 videos. Your comments are always hate
@@pressstart1490 When commenting about this story about Senna and Prost, Mauperthuis' comments are often truth.
@@pressstart1490 "Hate" could you possibly ignore the facts anymore than you already are?
This meeting just proves what a farce the 1989 result was. Everyone in the room agrees that the safe thing for a driver to do if he misses the chicane is to use the escape road, which is exactly what Senna did in '89!
@Jack Walsh A push-start is illegal. At the end Senna would have been disqualified for that reason too. That's why he didn't insist at the end when they disqualified him for having cut the chicane. He knew that he finally would had no point.
@Jack Walsh I do not discuss that.
Officials had to show the black flag to Senna during the race, but they wanted to maintain the suspense until the last race.
It also was quite shocking to see that Japanese stewarts first try to help only Senna and not Prost and then pushed the car of Prost out on the grass and helped Senna at least twice to restart his engine.
In that case it was a misuse of the escape road. His car had to stay on the grass next to Prost's one.
@Crixus Mauperthuis The FIA was not FISA back then cretin. A simple explanation for a simpleton. FIA was/is the main governing body for motorsports. FISA, formerly the CSI, was a sub body of the FIA that controlled F1.
What about Prost's grovelling letter of apology to Honda in 1989? He either put the championship above his word or he was lying in the first place.
Weird how if Mclaren hadn't appealed Senna's exclusion from Suzuka, Senna wouldn't have been fined $100k for dangerous driving or given a suspended sentence. Balestre and his cronies even broke their own rules when punishing Senna. By the way cretinous, Senna didn't write that letter.
@Crixus Mauperthuis Lololol. Senna didn't write the letter. Senna didn't pay the fine. Senna wasn't banned. 1989 was a big success for Mclaren. Shame one of their drivers couldn't beat the other on the road all season.
Shame also that one of their drivers couldn't also take the heat and scarpered off to Ferrari because, as Jo Ramirez believes, he needed a better car than Senna's to beat him.
@Crixus Mauperthuis There's an e at the end of Ecclestone cretinous. Eccleston is a completely different surname and an English village.
In Susan Watkins' book Bernie, Ecclestone states that Senna is the greatest driver ever.
ruclips.net/video/gbHyz-Q-NKw/видео.html Eddie Jordan stating that Senna is the greatest ever. Did you know that Jordan offered Senna half ownership of his team for Senna to drive for him?
Why would Barnard's opinion trump Ramirez's? Ramirez was on F1 scene far, far longer. Besides Ramirez never said who was the better driver but I suppose it's implied. Too bad
Anyway what would Ecclestone, Barnard and Jordan know about the actual driving of F1 cars? Ecclestone tried but never raced F1. Surely the only people who know are the drivers. www.autosport.com/f1/news/80517/drivers-vote-senna-the-greatest-ever
Yes 1989 the year Honda threw Senna to the gutter. How relieved Prost must have been with Honda saving his butt. 9-2 in wins for Senna had Honda not intervened. Embarrassing.
Well done. You understand the difference between the F.I.A. and F.I.S.A. now? A tad slow on the uptake there cretinous.
You seem to think about dicks alot cretinous.
young Charlie Whiting behind Senna at the start of the video!
Rip Charlie
Senna says hey to Charlie
Only the greatest parents produce class like Senna, a man of solid values.
Bravo! 100%!!!
Complimenti per la traduzione in Giappone.
Perché.
Per chi lo conosceva come me ha capito cosa ha detto.
Era è resterà unico.
Una leggenda.
Con un cuore grandissimo ❤️❣️🙏❣️
The safety thing is: if you miss the chicane, the steward stop you... alright... have no traffic, let you go. If you have to turn around and go backwards, against another car, that's dangerous because if another car comes and "miss also" he "fall onto" you.
Gotta love Ron Dennis
Senna were special. It's a shame that we lost him so early 😢 One opens his mouth and the other agrees and doesn't say anything else. I understand why Senna left the room. He's been punished and now someone opens his mouth when it's too late. I felt very sorry for Senna in this situation
0:10 so sweet... 0:54 his eyes...
R.I.P. Ayrton Senna ❤️🙏
I was thinking exactly the same „his eyes“. What a charismatic young man he was. Senna was one in a million ❤️🩹
@@melb.1906 Yes one in a million 💯👏🇧🇷👍
piquet raises a fucking usefull point
Senna 4 ever in my heart
Estranho ver o Piquet defender o Senna, mas até ele tava cansado da FIA. Enfim, dois gênios.
A FIA nessa época só fazia merda … tudo pelo poder , é aquele dilema que “ eu mando e pronto “
Eu não entendi direito. Aliás, entendi errado. Entendi que o Piquet tocou no assunto mais com a intenção de provocar o Ayrton. Não foi isso não? Se não for pedir muito, poderia me explicar, por favor? Fiquei confusa.
@@danielealves7325 Não. O Piquet questionou a regra que existia e sugeriu uma outra, pela segurança dos pilotos. Todos concordaram. O Senna se irritou, por que, no ano anterior, ele tinha falado a mesma coisa que o Piquet e foi desclassificado por isso.
@@danielealves7325 O Piquet não falou isso pra provocar o Senna nem nada do tipo. Aliás, eles não tinham nada um contra o outro. Simplesmente não eram próximos. Essa rivalidade que nunca existiu entre eles, foi criada pela imprensa.
@@danielealves7325 Mas ele quis alfinetar só porque era Senna mesmo fosse Prost ele não falaria nada sobre a batida no GP do Japão de 1989 em que Senna fez o certo ão ir pela área de scape e pra FIA Senna tinha que voltar e retornar pela pista mas ai ia pegar carros na contra mão e ia causar acidentes .😝😜😛
From what I can hear Piquet actually says drivers shouldn't be forced to go back around to rejoin a track but simply continue straight forward when there's no trafic because it's safer than going in the opposite direction. He obviously refers to Senna's DQ reason in the 89 race which was that he cut the chicane (ridicilous as he didn't gain any advantage in doing so). So I think Senna misunderstood Piquet, he wasn't dissing him, he was actually making a valid point.
Senna was MEGA sad because he did NOTHING wrong in Suzuka 1989 and in this briefing, everybody agreed with him. Also, it is EXTREMELY frustrating to know that Prost jumped the start in Suzuka 1989 (LOOK IT UP!!!) and wasn't penalised in ANY way for that... The WHOLE situation could have been avoided. Maybe Senna didn't even know that (even at the time of this briefing).
Senna asked for and got a push start which was illegal in F1. He would have been disqualified anyway.
@@ElectoneGuy you are wrong because the rules stated you were allowed to be pushed if the car was in a dangerous position
@@ElectoneGuy Whatever. But he wasn't disqualified for that. He was disqualified for missing a chicane. They tried so much to disqualify him for something, they didn't even realise they had a legal reason to do so.
The way he walks in and assesses the room with that look that he's expecting backlash
We've all been there
Senna did nothing wrong in the 1989 GP Japanese GP and Piquet is non-directly defending the idea that Senna should not have been disqualified from that race. Piquet is a Legend in motor sport and one of the greatest drivers of all time. Senna not only the best driver who ever lived but one of the great men too... The loss of Ayrton rivals that of Lennon, Lady Di, Steve Irwin, Martin Luther King and all those other great people who's lives were taken before they reached their peak!
No, ur wrong. He should be disqualified. Stewarts helped him to ignite his car, and Senna cut chincane to come back to the race, it was written on the regulament, and the race director followed it. Ballestre has nothing on it.
No Balestre and other FIA officials and Ron Dennis Senna and also Prost had a meeting right after the race delaying the podium celebration. They wanted to DQ Senna for the push start but there was a loop hole rule that if the car was in a dangerous position it could be restarted so they decided to DQ him for going around the chicane. Also Balastre in a French news paper and maybe also his biography admitted to helping Prost and other French drivers.
@@diegoyoshioka You’re wrong, not him.
He just went for space that didn't exist, got stewards assistance and blew the chicane which was an infringement to the FIA rules. Had he won the GP, he was still behind Prost in terms of total points...
@@syberian18 How many overtakes were done exactly at that point in F1 history? Uncountable. The space was there, and if not, Senna would not be there, like uncountable many other drivers had already done the same in history, period. As it's already proved by data, with that move Prost would go to the grass, if Senna was not there - what confirms the move was abrupt and intentionally to strike Senna's car. The assistance from the stewards was LEGAL as the regulation states for a danger position like that. Then the last alternative for Balestre to save the a.s.s of his protegé, was to claim about something obscenely contradictory, that is the purpose of this video.
Senna is still hurt by how he was disqualified in 1989. He was staging a spectacular comeback in 89 winning at Spain, Belgium and Germany before that. He would have felt very let down by this episode.
Simply the best-Senna!
0:57 ピケとセナはあまり仲良くなかったけど、ピケのこういうところが好きだな。物事の本質というか、重要なところを見抜くというか。
Love Senna, love Berger, and Piquet was defending Senna's actions. Ayrton was just a little sensitive about this for obvious reasons. Senna was on the edge of tears here. :-( He didn't want the robbery of 1989 to be brought up (without the title being rightfully awarded to him retroactively). He left out of protest against the FIA, not the drivers (including Piquet Sr.).
Hi , how are you these days
Balestre was a freaking joke. McLaren come in for the appeal that was set on Friday and they find more charges against Aryton that they weren't notified of. WTF?
+redhotbeast254 Not only that but on FIA's statement, after the appeal that announced it's decision to uphold Senna's exclusion, was the details of the four FIA members who sat in judgement of that appeal. By FIA own rules five members must be in attendance to make the court's decision valid. By FIA's own rules the result of the appeal was illegal.
+redhotbeast254
Senna was found guilty of dangerous driving in 1989.
He should have been out of F1 or at the very least stripped of all his points for the year after this deliberate collision, but as usual Senna got away with it.
+Barrie Rodliffe No challenge to Senna's disqualification from the 1989 Japanese then no claim of dangerous driving against Senna.
+John19501000
Yet Senna was still guilty of dangerous driving, it was not made up.
Senna the only driver to consistently get away with bad driving.
+Barrie Rodliffe Senna was found guilty of dangerous only after McLaren appealed his disqualification from the 1989 Japanese race. What's more Senna was found guilty in a judgement that was illegal by the rules created by Balestre and his cronies. What's more again is that McLaren were warned with exclusion from the 1990 championship should they decide to go through the civil courts. That's how far Balestre went to make sure Prost was 1989 champion despite not beating Senna on the road the entire seasoin
Senna along with alot of other people hated the stupid politics coming into the sport, in fact now it runs rampant
@Crixus Mauperthuis Take a break my friend, you posted in this same video years ago. You need to move on, this is just sad.
why didnt they back Senna up the year before? i think thats what made senna leave
A year before there was no discussion about this. Just the race and then the punishment. If you asked the drivers, most wouldn't agree with the punishment.
Because Senna had a push-start after his engine turned off.
@@ziguigui22 And yet he was allowed to get a push since his car was in a dangerous position.
It's astonishing the fact that Brazilian drivers are way more aware and wise than the rest
Senna: fastest driver ever and one of the most charismatic human being never seen before!
I’ll put Maradona, Ali and Jordan to the same level.
Sempre una spanna sopra gli altri. Eterno, invincibile, inarrivabile. Come lui nessuno mai.
He was so right! The best proof is that for more than 3 decades now, drivers that miss a chicane, just slow down and go back on the track at the end of the escape route. They don't turn around. It would be silly to go in the wrong direction, even for a few metres.
Exactly! On the other hand, if they miss the chicane and loose the engine for whatever reason, they do mot have 5 steward pushing his car like in 1989. That's is also a huge safety concern in case somebidy miss the chicane or two other cars collide at the chicane.
Imagens contam mais q palavras!💯👊🏻
no no no … senor Jesus est no here 🤷♀️
senna simply said, about a trillion times.. "safety safety safety" he was just trying to make 195 mph as safe as he could.... he wasn't a being a "baby" as some of you asrseholes would put it, he was concerned for the safety of EVERY driver and he was passionate about it... nothing more
With this and the Senna movie you can put together all of what Piquet said... especially "There was a big fuck-up last year" starting his point :) Love the passioned speeches of the Brazilian drivers. The only issue is whether a push-start is legal, and back then it was (and should be now, IMHO... it's stupid and lame that a stall on-track means your race is over - require onboard starters or allow push-starts... and working reverse gears while you're at it).
He needed external help to free his car from Prost's one. Without the help of the stewarts he had to get out of his car as Prost did.
AYRTON SENNA DIDN'T DIE, HE'S JUST A LAP IN FRONT OF EVERYONE...🏁🏁🏁
not many drivers agreeing with sennas disqualification in 89
+John19501000 Senna was found guilty of dangerous driving and the ban from racing should not have been suspended or he would not have been in a position to deliberately take Prost out of this race to make sure he won the title, Senna as usual got away with it.
Another title Senna did not deserve.
+Barrie Rodliffe Senna was given a suspended sentence simply because McLaren had the audacity to challenge Senna's disqualification from the 1989 Japanese race. No challenge by McLaren no claim of dangerous driving against Senna. idiot
+John19501000
So what? Senna did drive dangerously and he often got away with it.
A fake coward and liar should not call others idiot, it does not help you.
+Barrie Rodliffe All part of Balestre's vendetta against Senna and his non French nationality.
+John19501000
Nothing to do with Balestre. Senna was dangerous to himself and other drivers, he caused another of his many collisions and he lost out, the shame is Senna did not learn from it and he deliberately took Prost out at Suzuka because he was afraid he would lose.
Senna is really 4 times champ, and Alain is 3. Jean-Marie Balestre confessed on his deathbed that he was unfair to Senna to facilitate his compatriot's title. So why doesn't the French publicly apologize? Than F1 can fix the things and the right numbers of titles.. Senna is four-time champion!
Nunca havia reparado em sua beleza exterior. Nossa!
Ele era muito bonito,tinha um grande magnetismo.
@@TheDanyification He was very charismatic and very handsome!!
the best bloke
he left a gap in the door as he walks out. thats deep
❌ - Será que tem Esse Vídeo Dublado em Português??!?
ネルソンがフォローしてくれたのがビックリですね❗️
An interesting view of what is happening inside the closed world of F1 Racing...although not current, I could imagine the same thing with the current drivers
Senna Samurai
That's life, when the serious moment is coming, you are exposing the real face of some people...
Non c'è bisogno di fare la traduzione.
Non sapendo inglese.
Senna , molta gente si dovrebbe inchinare per quanto avesse fatto.
Un signore nato e morto.
Non c'è nessuno come lui.
Amava la formula uno.
Amava le persone.
Amava le vere persone.
Forse tantissimi.
Non l' ho avete conosciuto.
Grazie al cielo io si.
Era di una bontà unica.
Mai fuori luogo.
Signori si nasce.
Non si diventa.
Lui ad Imola non voleva gareggiare.
Perché il giorno prima c'era stata una tremenda gragedia.
Ma il circo della formula uno doveva andare avanti.
Lui lo sapeva in quella curva.
Lui ha visto la morte prima che morisse.
Non ho altro da scrivere.
Riposa sempre in pace.
Ragazzo mio.
❣️🙏❣️❤️😓😮
senna was just angry because what happen on 1989 when the title got taken away from him
Senna's engine turned off. He needed external help to free his car from Prost's one. Without the help of the stewarts he had to get out of his car as Prost did.
@@ziguigui22 Only an idiot would answer a 9 year old comment.
The gap was there and Senna had the inside line. He did the exact same move on Nannini just later but Nannini didn't turn into Senna like Prost did. Find the video from the helicam and you'll clearly see that Prost starts turning way too early that'd he'd go over the grass at the apex or straight over the kerb and damage the car. He admitted he shut the door.
You're right. That said Nanini was not fighting gor the title. The points , even for a second place, were "hughe points" for him. He woukd have nothing to gain on resisting to Senna in drivers and constructor champship perspective ans again getting these big points was of paramount importance.
Completely different situations.
Last year was very bad for me ❤
He showed everybody that the policy will not swallow
1989 was a HUGE robbery....admitted by Ballestre himlself at 1996!
I agree, gotta consider this in context - and go to see the Senna documentary (which was awesome). Piquet was great here - and I can totally understand Senna's exasperation with the FIA (hence walking out on the meeting)... he's denied a WDC and then here it's like everyone in the room (sans Prost) is agreeing with the view that effectively would have exonerated Senna's actions (and therefore granted him the title), but too late.
Well, Senna very likely wouldn't have won the 1989 championship anyway, but it was still disgusting how he was disqualified.
Because this upsets me so much, I thought I would change the subject and ask if anyone remembers Gerhard Berger being interviewed after he won the Japanese Grand Prix in 1987? I keep looking for a video clip but can't find one. The Japanese interviewer asks Berger how it felt to win in his "Fellali". Berger sat there for about 10 seconds and then completely lost it, laughing his head off, and snorting as he always did when he laughed. Each time he struggled to breathe in he would say "Fellali" and then start off again :-) Horrifically non-PC but absolutely hilarious.
What happened the year before was ridiculas and remember it was Prost who ran to the stewart's office and brought it to their attention that Senna missed the chicane etc blah blah we all know what happened, I would politely leave too if I was in his shoes, the politics involved in F1 and with Balestre in particular, at the time,were either by coincidence or intent,conspired againt Ayrton and he was right not to sit there and take it, now I don't hate Prost or any driver, just my opinion.
Dee Walsh y
Senna's engine turned off. He needed external help to free his car from Prost's one. Without the help of the stewarts he had to get out of his car as Prost did.
@@ziguigui22 - that was never mentioned in the reasons for disqualifying him. He was disqualified for taking a shortcut by missing the chicane and there was no mention of the stewards. But then Balestre would have thought of 100 other reasons so that his friend Prost was guaranteed the championship.
hey! senna had every reason to be pissed off!
No he didn't. He had a push-start because his engine turned off.
@@ziguigui22 Why wasn't he disqualified for receiving a pushstart then? Why did Balestre and his cronies draw controversy onto themselves by disqualifying him for a crime that had occurred hundreds of times before without penalty ,even during that season when, according to you, they had a ready made reason to disqualify him?
@@benitolonard4441 Answer to your first question.
I don't know. James Hunt who also was a F1 worldchampion (and great Senna's admirer too) immediatly said on the BBC that sadly Senna put himself in an impossible situation and will be disqualified because of the pushstart.
About your accusation telling that Ballestre influenced the sentence. That's wrong.
That's Senna who believed that the decision had been made by FISA President Jean-Marie Balestre to give the championship to his fellow countryman Prost (the race stewards and Balestre both denied this was the case, stating that the FISA boss wasn't even present at the stewards meeting when the decision to disqualify Senna was made). I personnaly think that Senna told that because he was caught cheating to have received a second pushstart when his car was out of track. Senna should have park his car on the side like stewards did with Prost's car, but he abused of their confidence and cut the chicane. Senna, being caught cheating in front of the whole world was a huge slap to the face to all the brazilian nation.
Remember when Senna won his first championship. A television do Brazil changed that as it was something "Brazilian" when it was in fact the victory of a good driver on a Japanese-British car that was the BEST car of that time.
@@ziguigui22 James Hunt did mention the pushstart but was immediately interposed by Murray Walker who stated that it was contentious. 1989 rules regarding the matter were simple. If a car was left in a dangerous position it was entitled to a pushstart. The rule for no pushstarts whatsoever was brought in for the 1990 season. Senna's car was left in a dangerous position when blocking the track and escape road.The only reason Prost didn't receive a pushstart is that he believed his car was damaged and got out of his car. Senna did not cheat in getting a pushstart. That is the reason Balestre and his cronies couldn't disqualify him for that reason.
Saying Balestre didn't influence the decision is wrong. Balestre admitted it.
@@benitolonard4441 After failing once to restart his engine, Senna asked for a SECOND push-start when his car wasn't anymore on the track, but totally in the escape road. In the escape Senna steer intentionally his car to a dangerous situation.
He didn't need a second pushstart to put his car on the side of the escape road. He only had to push with his foot on the clutch and steer his car correctly on the side of the escape road.
That could be any other driver instead of Senna, the stewards would have sentenced him because he cheated.
Senna tried to make that political because he was very very ashamed to be "caught with the hand inside the bag".
Was he upset because nobody stood up for him last time when he talked about the tyre barrier?
Here (Suzuka 1990) Senna was upset becaue in 1989 he was DQed for missing that very chicane in Suzuka. After Prost collided with him at the entry of the chicaner both cars went straigh ahead. Senna kept the engine running and and then rejoined the track through the exit of the chicane. He got himself a new nose in the pits, chased down Alessandro Nannini, overtook him and won the race only to get DQed for missing the chicane which made Prost the new world champion. Now a year later everybody agrees that it's too dangerous to actually turn around and approach the chicane again if you missed it for some reason. In Senna's mind everybody was admitting that he lost last year's championship becaue of a BS decision that made no sense whatsoever.
The tyre barrier debate happened at the 1991 german GP.
we have to remind also that in the 1989 GP, when Senna rejoined the track after cutting the chicane, there was a marshall with a green flag, authorizing him rejoining the race. Also, there were obstacles, in case somebody had to take the escape road, for him not to gain an advantage, as he would have had to "slalom" through the obstacles at reduced speed
@@Eric0816 No he didn't kept the engine running. His engine turned off and he asked the marshalls to push him and restarted his engine thanks to their help.
At the end Senna would have been disqualified for that.
He got 0 point at Suzuka and it was the maximum point that he had to get after inconsciously trying to force the door.
Tbm estou de acordo, e levando em consideraçao o nível de segurança q habia naquela época, issó é inadmissivel.
Não entendi nada! Mais o Senna está certo!
@@eversonalvesdasilva2424 acho que a regra era os carros voltarem do Pit na contra mão, Senna era contra essa regra
That no body hit his back, then he look back and act so friendly is priceles..
the safest thing is, if you miss a chicane the stewards stop you, when there is no traffic , they'll let you go. If you have to turn around and go backwards against another car, that's dangerous because when another car comes and miss also he'd go forward to you (?)
Young charlie behind ayrton at 0:31 !
Meteram a mão no Senna Balestre us Devil. Senna Forever 🖖👏🙏
everybody has it's bad moments in life..Maybe it was to much for him at that very moment. I wish I had the whole briefing..
4 times champ!
Not! ahah!
O Piquet falou que não fazia sentido voltar para trás naquela 'chicana' que Prost e Senna bateram no ano anterior, tendo sido tirado o titulo do Senna por seguir contornando as barreiras. Piquet sugeriu que se houvesse problema ali, o certo seria seguir contornando as barreiras e seguindo em frente, pois voltar para trás e fazer o traçado da curva era mais perigoso! Piquet, corretíssimo.
I just love Ron Dennis & his "Thank You...Thank You Very Much..." after upsetting his boy.....despite the fact it was the entire grid of drivers agreeing against him....unanimously...!!!
When Balestre left the presidency of the FIA, he admitted that he had acted for Prost and against Senna. That's why Balestre stayed out of it in 1990 when Senna collided with Prost.
Nonsense...
External help is and has always been allowed if a car came to stop in a dangerous place. Senna's car came to a stop on the racing surface, so it was ok to accept the push-start. He was not disqualified for external help, but for cutting the chicane.
That's what this video is about as FISA had never disqualified a driver for cutting a chicane in case of an emergency as showed at Australia 1989's press conference showing footage of the 1981 Austrian GP where two drivers cut the chicane
He needed help to get his car free from Prost's one, then James Hunt (F1 world champion) said during the live coverage on BBC that Senna would be disqualified to get a push start.
Piquet: "Because SE another car comes and miss OUTRO..."
Ox méxtrex do inglêx!
Ele disse also não outro
mas é incrível ele conseguir falar ingles com sotaque de carioca hahhaa
I'm sorry, I didn't know you where talking about those members
the problem for people who did'nt understand is that Senna was eliminated from the race the year before cause he took an " emergency lane" because he had to, and that year Piquet asked if he could use it and the race director said " of course"... injustice! lol
Ah, I see. Good point, makes sense.
Charlie Whiting is SO YOUNG :)
Nelson was talking about how if somebody overshot the chicane before the start/finish straight, the stewards should stop you and let you proceed through the runoff area and continue the race versus having to turn around on the track and face oncoming traffic that could also overshoot the chicane and hit you head on. Senna became mad because the same thing happened to him in '89 and he was disqualified for continuing the race by proceeding through the runoff area.
Good night
What did Nelson Piquet said? I didn´t understand him....
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lucianoestivill: precisely said!!!
These rules wasn't fair in this years.
Think a few people have missed the point here Senna wasn't disagreeing with piquet it was the fact that he was disqualified the year before for NOT turning his car around but going straight on!! Piquet was mearly pointing out that' that was the safest thing to do! Lots of silly comments calling piquet names shows ignorance to what was actualy happening!!!
There you go, dude! The FIA Fiscals are so dumb to say they ( the drivers ) should come back to the Pit Stop by the returning way:S
Is this anime or hentai? Or manga, im not really good with this but I know when I hear it in my ears!
Suzuka '89 was one of F1's most shameful moments. The type of which we get more and more lately.
Senna is the Special One
Well… Jean Marie used exactly that to RULE Senna’s disqualification on 1989 Suzuka and make of Alain Prost world champion.
He admitted in 1989 he helped Prost win which is why 1990 he let the win stand.
Senna rules!
Senna is upset with the officials. Piquet is disagreeing with the officials rule that if you miss a chicane you have to turn around and rejoin the track. Even though all the drivers agree with Piquet the officials cant go back on this rule because it would rule Senna's DQ in '89 a farce. Thats why Senna gets up and leaves!!!
i wonder if this is what set senna of to crash into prost
@mskidi If we're ignorant let us ask you this: Did he or did he not turn into Senna as Senna got alongside? The move was ambitious, I admit, but not impossible as we've seen a few laps later with Nannini (Nannini held his usual racing line) in the very same corner with no incident. Then we saw it again in Jerez 1997 with Villeneuve and Schumacher. Exact same pass, from equally as far away if not farther, with a different result. Schumacher was DQ'd from the entire season for turning in.
No... Villeneuve had his tires in front of Schumacher's ones, when Prost had his tires in front of those of Senna.
That was not the same pass at all. Prost had the right to maintain his line and turned in front of Senna when Schumacher had not.
EFEITO BORBOLETA - Essa pergunta fez a fórmula 1 emitir nota de repúdio contra o piquet por racismo 30 anos depois
What pissed Senna off was the fact that there was a discussion, everyone agreed, and a decision was made according the agreement. What happened in 89 was basically the oposite. Why didn´t they discuss the 89 incident like they did in this briefing?
Senna won one Championship that was stolen from him by the FIA. It’s a shame.
Piquet has always been bitchy towards Senna, I don't know if he hit the topic on purpose but actually Ayrton's anger was towards the situation (actually launched by Piquet) more than towards Piquet, or better he felt totally mocked by Piquet and everyone else that agreed.
He had his bitter pill when Balestre stole him the race (and the Championship) and this was too much for him.
This is one of the reasons we loved him, he was human with feelings.
Love Ayrton FOREVER!!!!!!!
i'm not sure if you watched that video or not fella... senna was clearly alongside prost, and prost clearly turned straight into him, gave him no room. you'll notice how senna is right on the edge of the track, while prost has half the width to his left. Also think about which driver would benefit from them both being out of the race. It was an ambitious move by senna, he probably would have overshot and got taken back by prost, but prost saw his opportunity to win the championship and took it.
O que aconteceu? O que o Piquet falou e o Senna disse depois? Não entendo inglês
piquet falou que não fazia sentido o carro que escapasse da curva ter que voltar pra pista no mesmo lugar em que escapou pois teria que andar pra trás no circuito e isso era muito perigoso.
todo mundo concordou com isso
o senna agradece todo mundo em tom ironico e fala que vai embora e que a situação era uma piada, pede desculpa e sai fora.
pq no ano anterior ele perdeu o titulo depois de ser punido em pontos por ''cortar'' uma curva depois de um acidente.
@@lukinhas220698 entendi! muuuuuito obrigado por traduzir pra mim Lucas👍👍.
Isso aí Lucas! Faltou dizer que o prwsidentw da FIA, que era francês, após o Senna vencer aquela corrida e sendo campeão, desclassidicou e prost ficou c o título... A F1 tinha muita política e beneficiava os " amigos do rei".
Rodrigo Souza, a regra já era meio burra, pois o Senna correu num tempo amador. Piquet alerta do perigo a respeito daquela área de escape, to ouvindo agora ele falar... "se voce tiver de voltar e pegar o tráfego, aí sim é perigoso" Pára pra pensar, meu jovem... "ÁREA DE ESCAPE" SERVE PRA QUÊ??
Rod Lamy sim Piquet esta certo no que falou , mas só aceitaram devido o que aconteceu no ano anterior , com o Senna . o problema e que o Senna disse isso antes é não aceitaram é o Senna perdeu o título de 89 por isso " é pelo Ballestre" .
@@alexvieira967 exatamente! Porque não aceitaram em 89? E em 90 queriam aceitar, se foram construídas para esse propósito.
senna was right.so sad they disregarded his wishes... truly a man of principle and strong values
Push starts were legal in 1989 bubb. and it certainly was about cutting through the run off area in the middle of the chicane. why do you think this scene would have occurred if it was about something else?? lol
Dava para ver que o Ayrton era uma pessoa fechada
It was more of a return favor since the roles were reversed and Senna was in the lead in points.