God of War Ragnarok - All Odin Scenes (4K)
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Every Odin (The Allfather) Cutscene and Encounter in God of War Ragnarok! Richard Schiff Scenes in GOW Ragnarok.
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Kratos meets Odin and Thor
4:07 - Odin shows Atreus around Asgard
9:58 - Odin and Atreus talk with Durlin
11:20 - Odin gives Atreus Ingrid
13:23 - Odin shows Atreus the Broken Mask
19:56 - Odin intimidates Kratos
23:03 - Atreus questions Odin
25:48 - Odin asks Atreus what went wrong
30:06 - Heimdall is Dead
31:38 - Odin defends Atreus
34:30 - Odin Kills Thor
35:45 - Odin Boss Fight Part 1
43:12 - Odin Boss Fight Part 2
47:22 - Odin's Death
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Opps. I'm missing one of the most important scenes! You can watch it here: ruclips.net/video/MxOytKSdhBQ/видео.html - Sorry!
Well played
I have a very high chance of being wrong but I wonder if he saw whetever realm Athena resides in.
Good video but your fighting makes me crazy... SLAM YOUR SPEAR!!!
What's nuts is with further context, the drinking scene takes on a whole new meaning. Thor mainly poured those drinks out of curtesy, but didn't intend to drink as he's a recovering alcoholic. Odin then slams his drink on the table as if trying to get him to partake as he prefers Thor when he's an angry non thinking drunk with his morals inhibited. Thor is just so actively uncomfortable in that scene cause he is mere inches away from his vice, and Odin is trying to egg him into drinking. "You're no fun anymore."
. . . Oh my.
So that explain why he said "you should have told me before I pour the drink." Hé was genuanely serving Kratos AND Atreus. That's... Wow.
Facts!!! That was brilliant..made Odin seem like the ultimate manipulator
HOLY SHIT MAN
I love all the little reactions and foreshadowings you see on a second viewing. Odin arriving only when Thor makes sure it is safe and beginning to make what sounds like a rehearsed sales pitch (notice how he goes straight into his talk and it's a monologue). Kratos reaching for his axe when Odin starts saying "That one!..." or when he puts his hand on Atreus's shoulder.
That scene has an insane amount of layers. From Thor slamming his hammer down on the table, while Kratos gently places his axe down. Odin drinking thors cup, offering peace while simultaneously snatching Kratos' drink and drinking that. Showing even tho he parades around his "peace" what he really wants is everything for himself
This is my favorite intepretation of Odin. He's not flamboyant or ripped, he doesn't speak with thunderous poetry... He's just a scheming, paranoid sociopath who can fool you into being his friend... Perfect.
This is so accurate
As someone else said, he’s like a mafia boss
He's viking Saul Goodman. Slippin' Grimmnir, if you will.
Exactly 💯
Nah, full blown psychopath. Sociopaths are capable of connections, this version of Odin has none. Everyone, every thing is a tool used to further his ends.
Zeus: making sure he’s on top on the food chain.
Odin: Looking for leaks on the next week’s chapter.
Odin is kind of relatable
Odin was capable to kill a 400 years Kratos, Zeus couldn't even with a 37 years Kratos lol
@@Morgan.782 And even after that it took 3 gods to defeat Odin lol
@@justadude7598
Not just that, but even so, he was close to killing him a second time
@@Morgan.782 That was Prime Kratos not him in a Old Age
I like how Odin was depicted as situationally and circumstantially evil instead of just being pure evil. Like he had very selfish reasons for what he did but he was ultimately trying to gain more knowledge.
yes. its his curse. we all have that. lust. just like imagine knowing everything , thats worth all that blood. odin as person is justified, but his action never will be, choices are there.
yeah he’s an opportunist
No its the other way around. Seeking knowledge alone is not evil, but how he went about it meant that he was willing to step on anyone to seek it
@@5h3nn0ng Exactly. So many forget, or fail to realize that the desire, the lust, the infinite drive to *know* is not good nor evil. It's the actions you take in the pursuit of the thing that defines. It's like the kid says, "There is always a choice!". If you go to the library, sit and read the works of others who came before you, and then feel satiated in your need to know, what evil is there in that? If you break into the author of that same book's home, kidnap his kid, and demand to know everything they know about the topic... same information, totally different path to get to it.
I think the parable of the Chinese farmer is the best depiction of how to view what a thing is. You can't know in the moment and only at the end can you place events into one box or the other.
If you think about it Baldur was the same but in a different way.
This portrayal of Odin is just phenomenal. It really captures that “crazy old wizard” kind of vibe. He can be so menacing and evil, and yet his demeanor and voice can be so nonthreatening and chill. A few times throughout the story I genuinely started to question if he was really such a bad guy, because of how well he’s able to present himself. Such a great performance.
He was the sum of his choices. All the gods are born with innate natures. They can choose to fight against their natures or embrace them in a way that will consume them. Thats what i love about this story: You can overcome your nature and choose to be better. Odin was just an old man so obsessed with knowledge he couldn't see his own doom
He captures the very essence of subtly cunning and conniving. When he spoke to Kratos about Atreus, he came with a hostage and implied that his son would be safe IF he was to return to Asgard after he spoke which meant he is giving Kratos a ultimatum right off the bat. He's a fantastic orator who can give a speech or spearhead the mood and direction of a conversation but he makes sure that he is the one in control and each time he offers someone help it is also followed with a implied threat. He's also proud and paranoid but most of the time he has a perfect grasp of his emotions until someone questions his authority or has betrayed his expectations. If the man were to have a modern representation, he would be a mafioso; a don who speaks easy and waits to strike at a moment of weakness.
I loved that when Atreus goes to Asgard, I almost believed that Odin would turn out to be a far more complicated antagonist than the evil murderer from Mimir's tales. Truly great performance.
I didn’t like his dialogue. I wanted at least some formality to a guy who killed himself for wisdom. It’s just off putting to hear his drunk ass son speak more formally than him
Sadly I knew he was evil because a GoW hater spoiled the ending just for "fun"
To think Odin technically achieved his goal.
He wanted to know what happens to him after Ragnarök and he technically got to find out the hard way.
_Amen to Sindri for that._ 👌
*Brok sends his regards.* 😔
I think he wanted to know how to stop Ragnarok
He wanted to know more then just his own death. He wanted POWER, and will use anyone as tools to get him there. Trust or Not! Selfishness caused his downfall.
NOT finding it the hard way is part of the reason.
I think he got the same thing brok did, his trapped soul just kinda vanished
My first impression of Odin was underwhelming. Then after finishing the game I realized that’s exactly the impression he wants to make. He hides his malignancy until it’s time to destroy anything and everyone in his way.
Also how he is in the actual myths, he wasn't someone you'd think was a god at first glance
That's why he's so good at disguising himself as other people
@@hyperion3145 Except that in the myths, Odin is much more benevolent
@@titan133760 Keep in mind his ultimate goal is quite selfish. Postpone his death at Ragnarok as long as possible by gathering an army made of the finest warriors from Midgard.
What I love is how while he doesn't seem powerful, practically all of the other gods do exactly what he tells them to do. His orders are absolute (most of the time). That shows how powerful he is, albiet indirectly.
However the main thing for me was after he killed Thor and both lifted and threw Mjolnir like it was nothing, which not even Kratos could do.
I personally like this Odin more in a sense that it fits his personality better. He isn’t portrayed like an all powerful mighty king, rather someone who is manipulative and can trick everyone around him, so his more unintimidating appearance reinforces that kind of personality.
It puts a different sense of Allfather as a title. Instead of a wise and powerful father to his people as his title suggests, he's more 1984 Big Brother'.
In norse Odin and Loki actually had a relationship or partnership. Like they were bros not because they liked each other, cause they didn't, but because they found one another useful.
Well I guess Odin is Loki right.?
@@cristianechevarria5855 no, Odin is Odin, Atreus is Loki
@@NoVACorpsGaming Well Odin is the one who is manipulating,lies,cunning,and using for his gain from the beginning as mimir tell story about his behavior.
Richard Schiff - the VA really should consider acting villian role more . Love his work in this
He sounds so plain and boring to , doesn't even remotely fit the setting. Even checking his background it feels like this has connections to pass the interview entirely.
@@vulcanmemes9770 He was supposed to be played as subtle vs. the grand presentation of Gods in the previous games.
Would you prefer a giant robot as the main villain?
@@vulcanmemes9770 Thats your opinion lol but wrong
I've been a fan of his since The West Wing. He's good at playing quiet, unassuming, but fiercely intelligent and authoritative characters, like politicians and Chiefs of Medicine.
The only difference between his usual characters and Odin is that Odin is a mob boss, he'll talk nice and negotiate as an opening move, but when you've become a threat, he'll stab you in the gut before moving on to take care of his business.
@@DrMonty-yr1kc i agree doctor
4:34 Love how Odin delivers his lines here. A great mix of sarcasm and light-heartedness. Followed by his "comedic" turn to Heimdall, who was no longer standing there, it all felt so perfectly calculated to make Odin seem less threatening and intimidating to Atreus.
Or maybe because he's just missing his right eye. The same thing happened in groa's shrine where he pushed Atreus slightly after learning he was deceived by her.
Ah, so that’s why he paused, I just thought he almost forgot his name
The way he says " you a little trickster?" gets me every time
The funniest part is I’m pretty sure that was just Heimdall being an asshole purposefully moving over to Odin’s blind spot.
@@cheesecrew ikr
32:04 so subtle, yet so tragic. You can see Thor's desperate need for Odin's approval, but Odin doesn't even acknowledge his presence. This game really nailed their depiction of neglectful and emotionally abusive parents.
"If he says snow is white, he's lying."is such a powerful line,
especially to those of us who know people like Odin.
Yeah, when he started throwing enchantments, I had to stop a second, it hit too close home...
And his response is equally powerful: "Now where is the wisdom in that?" These people prey on your common sense.
I met a lot of dark traited people but never as odin. He is OP in his act. Most dark people are stupid and easily slip off their masks
Basically means that Odin is such a massive liar and master manipulator that you can't trust him even when he tells the truth.
Odin felt like a seasonal antagonist off of the sopranos, also I really respect the fact that kratos didn't just solo him, he let Freya and Loki show their skills off
He didn’t solo him because he couldn’t
@@greengamma569 bro.
Stfu.
Go play GOW 3
Odin is a pitiful power weilder compared to the Greeks all father.
Zues literally had this giant divine form and had to sunder the entire fucking "world" and even then Kratos is still fuckin climbing up mount Olympus as the entire Greek sphere just was collapsing into oblivion.
Dude solod an all father with the same if not more manipulative tactics and far beyond the powers Odin had. That cut scene where he is saved by Freya with the noose is totally situational. Do we really think mediocre magic, weak bodied Odin here is stronger then zues?
If anything you'd say Kratos can't beat thor then since his power is beyond Odin hence him being his tool lmfao. Odin only even was able to kill him by surprising thor.
Zeus would dunk on Odin.
So I'll let you internally work out how that power scaling works when Kratos has all the powers of the Greek pantheon and is immortal.
Did you forget what happened when Kratos tried to solo him? Or even duo him with Atreus? They got trapped and taunted, didn't escape until Freya used rope ex-machina to further the plot and beat Odin with her ''yass kween'' womanpower moment.
It was all pretty cringe, but one thing was clear: Odin was pretty damn strong, too strong for one God alone.
@@greengamma569 The hell he couldn’t
@@Zarkrez he literally had kratos and Atreus on their knees and they had to be saved by freyja
“Divine comfort…we both know that’s a sham.”
Well, unlike Zeus, at least Odin admits it.
That being the only thing he admits.
@@t-rexcellentreviews1663 well he basically said himself that he can't stop he want to know what going to happen next in the very end he basically know his nature but he can't change so it was like curse for him
@@tuppiee1752 everyone can change, some of us just refuse to do so, many of Odin’s action actually have very little with wanting to know what happens next and is just a result of him being inherently power hungry and cruel for the sake of it, he refuses to acknowledge any fault in his actions and that was his ultimate downfall.
@@t-rexcellentreviews1663 In the case of Ancient Greece in the GoW universe though, Divine comfort was more of a passive thing that ended up to be true, life without the gods didn't exist.
@@t-rexcellentreviews1663 but his desire for knowledge is what ultimately led him to commit the atrocities he did on everyone around him
You could be surprised what a passion if not controlled can do to a person
7:08 "a sense of identity" is a great line once you know Odin's true motives. Guy were desperate to find meaning of godhood, his own existence. Kinda shame it drove him mad
That and it reflects Atreuss current feelings about Loki, as Odin would be aware of as Tyr
Odin is very similar to the Dwarf in the Flask/Father.
The voice actor for Odin did a fantastic job. His personality reminds me a lot of Saul in the breaking bad shows. Masterfully manipulative and fakes emotions and sincerity with expert proficiency.
Great you just made me imagine GOW Ragnarok but with Bob Odenkirk... Odinkirk...
@@manie.8241 Odinkirk: "You want to know why I rejected the offer? It was TOO SMALL. IT MEANS NOTHING TO ME BACTERIUM. I'M A GOD IN HUMAN CLOTHING. LIGHTENING SHOOTS FROM MY FINGERTIPS"
@@Bowfella It is so perfect
This was the moment Jimmy McGill became the Aldafaðr
Reminded me of the Hades from Disney's Hercules animated movie.
Odin is just this lovable Badguy that you know you shouldn't trust, but you trust him anyway...
Like Todd Howard?
At first glance, I read that as "Lovable BALDguy." 😆 both statements are true.
Something I really like about Odin is that sometimes when he laughs he snorts, it makes him more human and charming somehow
Hahaha , i noticed and felt the exact same way minutes before reading your comment 😂, I snort when I laugh and always felt that it might be disturbing to others , but seeing someone else do it made me laugh even more.
In the first meeting, when he visited Kratos house, he wasn't hostile or scary or intimidating like Thor, quite the opposite, he appeared as a friendly humorous and warm person who seeks peace. Yet in the end he was proven to be the most dangerous manipulative and evil man in all 9 realms.
I really liked that in the game, showing that Evil people do not always look threatening (like in the case of Zeus or Ares or Thor). Sometimes villains are hiding behind a smiley and friendly face.
One of the names Odin uses in the mythology is Grimnir, which means The Masked One, so it's quite fitting.
Most the time they come nice
4:34
My favorite moment with Odin, because it perfectly encapsulates just how DANGEROUS he is. He's not dumb, he knows that Atreus wants to betray him, but he's SMART enough to figure out how to twist that around because he knows Atreus *also* wants to know what's going on and what will happen. Charming like a snake and twice as deadly.
Y'know, it's funny how huginn dropped Atreus outside of Asgard instead of directly in front of Odin. Then had Heimdall "greet" Atreus so that Odin can come and leave a positive impression on him. Plus when Atreus said do you want to keep the all father waiting, Heimdall said he's sure meaning that the whole thing was a ploy to make Odin appear as a good guy.
Idk Heimdall lookes very confused by Odin’s plan, i dont think he knew his plan
@@DrMonty-yr1kc Course he wouldn't. Odin doesn't want his subjects to think, just do. In his own words, "You don't think. I think. You kill. It's a simple fucking concept"
@@DrMonty-yr1kc he knew how Heimdall would react and used him without him knowing
Huginn couldn't bring him directly to him because "spoilers"
Odin was still pretending to be Týr in disguised.
The reason heimdall said that is because he could read Atreus’ mind and knew he was gonna betray Odin
I really like this depiction of Odin, everything about him is meant to be disarming, he's not huge and burly, he's not openly violent or malicious, his whole appearance and demeanor makes you think of him as less of a threat than he actually is.
I also like how he's more or less a Lich, which is a powerful wizard that sacrificed his humanity for great magic. Considering he hung dead from YYygrasil for a week to gain mystical knowledge this is pretty fitting,
He does everything what it takes to gain all the knowledge he can find to the point of stepping onto other's privacy just to get them.
He didn't hang dead for a week, he stabbed himself with his spear to bring himself to a near death experience, and he was hanging like that for nine nights.
Nah its reeri they made is scrawny and weak as heck and he's dumb in this game
@@ninjaking7256 bro literally fooled everyone around him tf you on
Yes very Jewish,just like the Norse people
This version of Odin is definitely an interesting villain. He's manipulative, clever, powerful, and obsessed with gaining knowledge. In many ways Atreus seeking answers about himself and his destiny parallel Odin's desire to gain knowledge. It definitely shows why Odin and Atreus' paths intersected with each other. It also seems fitting for Atreus to be the one who truly defeats Odin. Odin's relationship with Thor is also interesting. Odin's clearly a bad dad towards Thor, even though Thor was most loyal to him. It is implied that their dysfunctional relationship has to do with the death of Fjorgyn, Thor's mother who Odin may have actually been genuinely in love with. Odin is definitely a complicated deity who could have avoided his fate if he had just been more open to changing for the better.
I agree that he’s complicated however I also think he’s a full blown sociopath. He puts on a mask to hide his true nature and manipulated those around him to get what he wants. Look at how he used Atreus, Thor, and Baldur.
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Actually Heimdall is the most loyal servant to Odin, Odin says it himself while disguised as Tyr. But yeah Odin is masterfully portrayed in this game, he's very powerful, clever, and very manipulative, but he appears so kind and friendly just to trick you. Odin also is definitely a complete psychopath, he doesn't care about any of his sins, he only cares about how he can use them to benefit himself.
"Your entire economy speaking"
Odin Dies
Durlin: We just experience a recession
More like a complete economical crash
This version of Odin is Great. All powerful but in different ways.
This version of Odin is the embodiment of the saying "knowledge is power".
@@StareachValcin School house rock reference
@@MegaDynamiteDan I actually didn't reference school house rock, but thank you for the reference.
@@StareachValcin here I thought game of thrones
This first meeting of Odin and Thor makes them feel more like a mob/mafia boss and his right hand man. And honestly? I love that instead of then taking the easy route and making them both big muscular warrior types.
I can't tell you how happy I am they didn't go for the "musclely barbarian" Odin. This Odin is the brilliant, capricious, devious silver-tongued trickster. He's a God of War, not because of his personal might but of the subtleties of his mind. This is the Mad One*, the Wand-Bearer, the Deciever, Glad-of-War.
*The literal translation of the word "Odin" and like in English "mad" has both the crazy & angry connoctations in Old Norse.
Straight up Machiavellian. Have a terrifying second man to make yourself look kinder by comparison.
45:10 I like the detail of how Odin really cared for his ravens, that second "No!" from his part it seems that it hurt him to see them die.
Or was it hurt because his final escape failed.
@@Davemonlee I don’t think so, as the first “No!” felt more angry, while the second felt actually felt sad
@@ee-jm2ttThat actually shows that he does not care about them, they are just tools for him (just like his children). When the first raven died, he probably thought to himself “I still have the second one” and as the second one died, he felt bad not because ravens were his friends, he felt bad, because he lost one of his most powerful tools.
@@ee-jm2tt oden doesn’t view other organisms have something to be respected he only sees them as tools he was probably upset Because losing both his ravens is an indication that he was gonna lose
An interesting connection between Zeus and Odin is that they're both motivated by fear. Zeus fears being overthrown the same way he overthrew Cronos. Odin fears what may come after he dies. They deal with their fear in different ways. Zeus mainly exerts dominance over Kratos, fighting the Ghost of Sparta as soon as he slays the Colossus of Rhodes. Odin, meanwhile, tries to keep Kratos away for as long as possible. Offering a truce even when his precious Balder is killed, and trying to turn Atreus into an ally. Zeus tries to overcome his fear, whereas Odin tries to run from it.
I genuinely think Odin just sees Kratos as an annoying distraction from what he wants which is the mask. He genuinely just wants them to be quiet or go away he can't be bothered with them whereas Zues feared Kratos for what he might do
@@seanallsop4905 If Odin saw Kratos as a mere distraction, he would've left him alone instead of coming to his house and throw Thor at him.
@@greendemon905 Thor wanted his blood debt dont forget! And he's Odin he has to know they won't continue being a problem as Kratos had already killed 3 gods from his family and Atreaus was actually actively searching for Tyr so Odin had to try and deal with it but my point stands he just wanted them out of the way.
Odin doesn’t “run from his fears”. The only reason he tried to make peace with Kratos was because he needed Atreus’ help translating and piecing together the mask. It was all a meticulously crafted ploy to manipulate Atreus.
Comparing Odin with Zeus doesn’t really work since Zeus only cares about remaining in charge while Odin only cares about answering life’s big questions. Zeus just needs to overpower his enemies to accomplish his goal, Odin meanwhile needs his enemies to share their knowledge with him and thus must find more sophisticated and subtle methods of controlling them.
@@greendemon905 That is cope.
Odin saw him as a distraction in his plans because Kratos is the father of Atreus. The real threat was Atreus. The whole reason Odin went to the house was to make Atreus stop searching for Tyr. The reason he brought Thor was to warm Thor up because he needs Thor as violent as possible, with the blood payments as an excuse.
Just like in 2018, Baldur saw Kratos as a distraction, Baldur only wanted Atreus and Kratos was constantly beating him even though he was unkillable... in the end Atreus was the key to making Baldur vulnerable.
This odin is very accurate to the myths. People expect him to be a buff guy, but he's just a wizard obsessed with knowledge and the dead. Hes also a very dangerous figure as well, since he's constantly wanting people to wage war and die so he can harvest their souls. Also Odins name translates to" mad , crazy, or angry"
Nah in the myths he is buff watchu mean
@@ninjaking7256 he is not , he is described as allfather .
He isn’t Thor
@@ninjaking7256 nah tf
Odin is also called ‘grimnir’ meaning, the masked one. Shapeshifter.
Except that in the myths, Odin is a more benevolent figure
15:13 the best part about this scene: Odin didn’t lose his eye to the rift. At least not directly. Mimir mentioned in GoW 4 that he tricked Odin into getting high off of a mushroom potion, which caused him to gouge his own eye out.
Maybe the potion made Odin believe that he could safely look into the rift, and what he saw made him blind himself. We don’t know for certain, but he’s certainly taking advantage of it to build trust with Atreus.
And at 7:56, Odin mentions his distaste for mushrooms. Cool detail.
Mimir has an excellent conversation about this. Atreus mentions that Odin is telling stories differently than Mimir, and wondering why Odin would lie even when there's no benefit to it. Mimir explains more about how pathological liars work. "Here's the thing you need to know about liars- they lie."
Odin seems more tragic than evil tbh. He was so scared of death and obsessed with needing to know what comes next to stop ragnarok that it drove him to the point of madness
It's kind of like Voldemort
@@TheGreatDearLeaderJimPickens Odin split his soul into 7 parts and become a reptile-like being not human because He's so obsessed with immortality and one school teen boy?
@@wyslanniknewworldorder9525 I meant that Voldemort's afraid of death more than anything and will scramble to any lengths to achieve immortality. Not a perfect comparison, though
I would not call him mad, just obssessed. Madness implies that he is not maling rational decisions based on reality. He was rational, logical, too a fault really. But he made informed choices about his path and Atreus's decision at the end highlights that.
@@JamesDeanStudiesLanguage Perhaps "unhinged", or else just paranoid and malignant
I don’t know why but when he says “*gasp* Is that true Loki? You a little trickster?” I just love it
I love this portrayal of Odin. He manipulates, if that doesn’t work then he subjugates, and if that doesn’t work he destroys.
You forgot to mention that when he destroys he deflects the blame. It is Jötnar's fault that Odin sends Thor to murder them in drunken rage. it is never Odin deciding that Jötnar must die because he doesn't like them deciding to not obey his whims. Odin is definitely not wasteful.
Oh you watched that video too?
11:18 I love how Odin delivers that "bureaucrats" line. You know that the main villain is well made when the audience can relate to them on real-life issues like Bureaucracy.
Nah, it means the writers were pandering to a bunch of idiots who couldn't fathom the concept that mythological gods circa 9000AD wouldn't talk and behave like 2022 hipsters.
@@TheStraightestWhitest well kratos is neither a actual Greek God nor did the Nordic tribes speak English(neither did the Greeks for that matter) so certain liberties have to be taken to make relatable characters. But as a fellow history buff I understand how you feel.
@@mrjudge6167 The best counter argument is a look at the older games. Kratos was a figure in Greek mythology, but nowhere near what he was in the games. That's a creative liberty. Hercules is another great example. His Labours were displayed in a different light, like they were lowly chores rather than great feats. That's a creative liberty done perfectly. It was a change made with respect. The mythology didn't change. Just our perspective.
They've lost that subtlety. When Surtr began going ''cosmic stuff, big explosions and things, you'll like it.'' I fucking cringed my eyeballs out. The MCU formula copying was so cringe. I really hated the way everyone talked. This isn't 2022 ffs. It's hilarious how people praise the new deep narratives when the older games had far better writing. An over the shoulder camera angle and lots of dragged out close ups of people's poorly done crying faces to show off muh motion capture doesn't equal better writing.
Not speaking to you directly with that btw, just in general. Creative liberties I'm okay with. Bastardising mythology I'm not.
@@TheStraightestWhitest Idk, i agree that some of the writing is kinda crappy like the surtr line, but i definetly wouldnt call it bastardising mythology by a long shot. As an actual norse pagan and swede, i think they did a great job telling mythology stories in a modern way. like their take on thor as incredibly powerful, but clearly in pain due to hierarchical abuse by odin. or or as the aesir as evil since their morality in the mythology is questionable at best even by old norse moral standards, let alone modern morals.
i can see some criticism in small lines here and there, but thats such a minor issue. idk what they couldve done better honestly.
@@thefrostbee4182 No offense but you clearly know very little about the mythology. Where was Vidar? Why didn't Odin die to Fenrir, Fenrir to Vidar? Why didn't Thor die to Jormungandr after slaying the serpent and taking 9 steps? Why didn't Loki die fighting Heimdall and vice versa? Why is Angrboda, the tall masculine giantess with hair like blood and who is pale as death, a black girl?
They didn't give a fuck about mythology. They have been ruining it since 2018. Magni and Modi "lesser Aesir"? 😂
Not a second of hesitation from Odin when he kills Thor. When he says "I didn't want this" he means he didn't want his biggest and strongest asset turned against him. So he removed him from the fight without a care about Thor being his son
Logical and smart
Now that makes sense why Odin told him to leave the sword Ingrid, Ingrid would of said something of “Tyr” and spilled the beans to Freyr
That makes sense
Then why couldn’t he say it to Atreus?
I just realized when loki take odin's soul it's just like the prophecy stone in jotunheim, so it's odin's death not kratos
Exactly
As I recall Kratos said "nothing that is written cannot be unwritten"
That's just Barlog being a hack and saving his perfect Mary Sue goldenboy, Kratos.
An analyse I've read Somewhere show that the true one who defied Fate was Odin himself, not Kratos or Atreus... By emprisoning Tÿr, taking his appearance, bringing Loki to Asgard, and so on, he did all he could to stop the outcome... And by changing so many events, in the end, he reversed the roles.
@@TheStraightestWhitest ur the hack for thinking Barlog made this game
The kind of vibe I get from Odin is a sort of "The Head of the Mafia Family". If you're in his circle or prove yourself a great use, he can actually come across as charming and almost likeable, which makes it so easy to forget that you've witnessed what his dark machinations have caused. It also fits with his warped view of family, seeing them as enforcers first and people second. And despite his charm, you still know you need to walk on eggshells around him, or he could turn his wrath, might and connections on you just like that
I love how expressive the characters can be. At 31:08 when Atreus slaps the mask and says he mistranslated a word, Odin clenches his fists a bit and his voice is sort of cold and doubtful (with good reason), but then when what Atreus says makes sense he loosens up in voice and body. It says a lot about what he values.
He doesn’t care about Atreus outside his abilities the moment he loses his usefulness he is thrown away
At best he will keep you around in unideal circumstances to make sure you serve him
Honestly I love this interpretation of Odin. It has a whole mob boss feel to it, and perfectly encapsulates the clever trickter and manipulative side the myths had for Odin. I mean in a a lot of stories he disguises as an olf begger, and this look for him would make it easier to buy that.
While I lack the words to describe it I have to say I really loved his portrayal here. His actor did an amazing job.
He's a mob boss. Like Sopranos, Goodfellas, Boardwalk Empire.
Richard Schiff man... He's a legend.
I like how Odin drinks the cups that Thor poured and constantly abuses Thor yet he tells Sif that Thor started drinking again. The way Odin is portrayed here is great. He looks like a cool and humble guy that genuinely wants to help you but it's the opposite and the voice acting makes him even more likable
This guy steals every scene he is in. Wonderful voice acting
Odin's character design is spectacular, especially while wearing the cloak. he looks unintimidating and frail from the front, but from the back the coat makes him looks huge-almost threateningly large. gives the implication that he's hiding his true intentions and secretly he's more dangerous than he lets on.
I love how stupid Heimdall looks when Odin is like “of course he wants to kill me, are you stupid? Leave”. Its honestly what made me like Odin almost instantly, despite of course…
I love that odin feels like that guy whos the richest man in a small town. Hes got buildings named after him, he owns the auto shop, the restaurants, the bowling alley, and is always on the move. However he also owns the strip clubs, and the towing company, has several cops on his payroll, whos children constantly get away with dumb shit.
The text on the mask is written in Greek, Japanese and Egyptian hieroglyphs.
It makes sense that Loki could translate Greek text thanks to Kratos, but the fact that he managed to decipher Japanese and Egyptian with no references is pretty impressive.
The Rosetta Stone could help him with the Egyptian.
Linguistics is one of Atreus’ godly abilities, he can quickly learn any language possible in an extremely short amount of time. One example is learning the Jötnar language in the 2018 game by the end when in the beginning he couldn’t understand a bit of it despite only hearing it about 3 times in the game
@@pastorofmuppets4552 He'd still need to go to Egypt to find that and even then he'd need to learn Demotic (The third language on the stone and the 'everyday' written script of ancient Egypt) to even begin to figure out the Hieroglyphics. Not that it really matters in the end since owing to Atreus' godly powers he can learn languages with immense ease, references or no.
I like the substantial distance between Odin and Zeus in how they control people, Zeus just works through fear and intimidation and refuses to let anyone exist if they challenge him, meanwhile Odin doesn't take himself seriously but he manipulates people by exploiting their desires and flaws
Yeah, technically Odin is more dangerous in a way.
His manipulations aside, he is still ridiculously strong and powerful, but his appearence gives you the opposite impression so you'll always let your guard down. *Which is DEADLY if he decides your time is up.*
I just noticed how Odin tries to get Thor to drink in Krato’s house and says “you’re no fun anymore”, seems he manipulated him better when he was a drunk.
I really liked this conflicted Thor and scheming Odin, just finished the main story and the storytelling and depth is amazing.
You're a not fun anymore was a word for Kratos. Kratos is well known as ''god-killer'' and Odin said him because Kratos is not funny doing what ke knows to do. It stopped being funny when he killed Baldur.
@@billysaw69 it was directed to thor
@@xaviermayi3686 ''You are not fun anymore'' it was for Kratos about killing gods.
@@billysaw69 notice who he points to. And knowing how Odin wants Thor to drink but Thor refuses because of thrud, it’s pretty set on stone who he’s talking to
@@billysaw69 Lol it was clearly directed at Thor, “you have a debt (Kratos), you’re no fun anymore (Thor)” while drinking from his mead that he didn’t touch. He later mentions in his study how he preferred it when he was a drunk.
Love how clever they made him. For better or worse, Odin is always most clever
Odin’s voice actor did an absolutely incredible job. What a performance
The way Odin is portrayed is almost like a Mob boss, it's quite genius
Odin was fuelled by existentialism. Something we all deal with... Odin was the most human of all. I love how they gave him more than just a sympathetic goal, but something relatable. Humans look up to the God for answer but who do the gods look up to in their moments of doubt?? Incredible
Odin is so well written. Even when I knew he’s the antagonist, I always kinda liked him because of how friendly his behavior is to Atreus. Odin’s known as a master of persuasion for a reason lmao. Even when Atreus breaks the mask and Odin snaps and get mad, I felt so bad for Odin knowing we just destroyed his life’s work.. damn this game is a masterpiece
He's so badass
I’ve hear people complain about his design and voice. But I find it to be perfect. It’s perfect in its deception from mimirs stories you would think of the fan art design we all saw but in reality it’s just some feeble looking village elder who’s wise. It’s the persona Odin wants to be seen as
And the reason we all expect to see that design in the fan art because you would think with all his villainous acts he would look like a mad king who’s almost savage but in reality that’s what he looks like inside.
Some people said things about his design.I myself think he would look cooler with some kind of hood on his head but damn his voice actor really did an amazing job playing Odin's role.Round of applause
A hood doesn't really fit with his character, he got a silver tounge so he needs to look extroverted as much as possible. A hood will look menacing
@@morethn4characs960 One of his titles in the myth is literally "Shadowed-Face" or the "Hooded", so yes it will fit him still.
@@ultimatevtgb7551 but not in the game tho?
@@morethn4characs960 He would still pull it off, going in all mysterious like then starts working his mouth like in the game.
i think the point was to make him look unassuming and nonthreatening so when he betrays you you don't see it coming.
I love how much of a Mafia boss feeling you get from Odin, It makes him feel like a true villain.
I absolutely love this interpretation of Odin. His mannerisms and demeanor- he’s not this King speaking in poems and riddles. He’s a manipulative old man who knows his way around people in order to get what he wants. His obsession with limitless knowledge drives his every decision, and he will use or throw away anything and anyone to get to his goal. One if the best Odins I have seen.
"I need to know what happens next. I will never stop" This may very well be the first, last and ONLY truth he said the entire game
11:48 I absolutely love this moment and how, for all of Odin's ruthless manipulation of everyone around him, this implies Huggin in the only one who won't buy his bullshit. I'm actually really curious what their relationship actually was and it makes me want to know more about Huginn.
Every time I see that scene where mimir tells off Odin and he responds with "what kind of wisdom is that?" it floors me. This VA delivered. All of them did.
I love the actor they chose, definitely not what I expected but It made so much sense as soon as he spoke. When we first saw him it made me laugh out loud “ that’s the guy from jurassic Park”😂😂
The guy that snipes the 2 Rexes and got split crunched by the same Rexes too hahaha
@@paulandreig.sahagun34 Waaittt from Jurassic Park 2?!?! The one who died trying to save everyone falling off the cliff with his car and the cable?!?!
@@tygarner9142 Yup, that guy.
I only recognized him as Dr. Emil Hamilton from Man of Steel. It's been a long while since I saw the second Jurassic Park
@@scorpion40k I just watched black panther and he’s in that shit too😂
Richard Schiff is amazing in this role. Even though we, the player, have been told for an entire game how evil Odin really is, and we know it’s all a sham, he still manages to make you feel like “maybe he’s not so bad after all”.
Richard Schiff’s performance of Odin is insanely underrated
*Gasp* "Is that true, Loki? You a little trickster?"
I just love that delivery.
Odin is the perfect palace king. He understands his weaknesses and the stakes at hand with terrifying precision and divorces his mind from all else. He is wholly consumed with control and nanomanages his empire with every choice and trick of word.
Honestly if I didn’t hear any of the stories from Mimir about Odins utter madness, I 100% would have trusted the man. Possibly with my life. The way he talks so calmly and peacefully really let’s my guard down sometimes
"I think, you kill. It's a simple fucking concept!" - US Military
Although the crimes Odin committed are absolutely disgusting I can’t help but feel back even the slightest because he really wasn’t evil he was just consumed by the thirst for knowledge and corrupted him
Oh Odin was definitely evil. The pursuit of knowledge, the desire to know more about yourself, about the world, is an understandable motivation but what makes Odin evil is how far he was willing to go in that pursuit. The murders, manipulation, the abuse of his family and the despotic way in which he ruled were excessive by any measure.
In those scenes with Atreus he really comes off a bit like a sleezy boss you'd meet at an interview. It's so perfect. He acts like a show-off dodging any question about what it is he actually expects from the new hire. Staying especially vague as to not scare him away. Awesome idea for how to portray a god such as Odin!
as somebody who dedicated a couple of units back in college to mythology, odin being a scheming, paranoid mob boss isn't too far off the mark
Odin is a the original Godfather apparently.
it honestly shocks me how manipulative he is, imagine having an uncle like that but isnt evil
The Fact you can say "that isn't evil" and compared him to Odin shows the kinda master manipulator your uncle is
What an amazing portrayal of Odin. Seems so kind you’d probably trust him in real life lol but we know how he really is so it just makes it such an interesting dynamic. 10/10 game didn’t know if they could top the first but damn they did it imo
He reminded me of Darth Sidious from the prequels in some way. And in general, this whole story with him and Atreus is similar to the relationship between Sidious and Anakin
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*Yes! Let the hate flow through you!*
Odin is still strong AF. He easily picks up the hammer to hit Thrud and pierces thru Thor no problem.
Odin is a master of magic he probably enchanted the hammer to give him easy access to it without ever needing to use a belt or glove of magic to wield it like thor.
No it’s not like in the mcu where it who is worthy it’s literally that heavy that only Thor and Odin can wield it as they have the physical strength to do it
@@gayfrogs6985 i do think there’s some magical control over it because Kratos couldn’t quite catch it, and we both know he’s stronger then Thor in the long run.
@@wilburforce8046 it is magical don’t get me wrong it’s just that this is based off the norths mythology where it is literally just that heavy we even see kratos start to pick it up before Thor interrupted him
@@wilburforce8046 Kratos is 100% not stronger than Thor physically. He constantly gets absolutely ragdolled and dominated. He only holds his own because he fights smarter and because Thor doesn't give a fuck. He fights carelessly.
They chose the perfect voice actor for this version of Odin, they really do sound like someone who lies almost compulsively, someone who tricks and deceives, gives you enough false praise and platitudes to keep you loyal but throws around enough insults and humiliation to keep you in line, along with enough half-truths and deceit to make sure you see things their way.
That's works sometimes..
just beat the game and I literally cant get enough of this version of Odin, Richard Schiff nailed this so well im just upset that we didn't get more from him, thor as well
“You a little trickster?” Love that line
I love how he looks so menacing outside of the house when he first shows up, but then looks completely harmless when he steps inside. The lighting in a game alone can tell a story and I fucking love it.
"And let's be honest they were kinda useless." All Father of the Year to his grieving alcoholic son what he thinks of his two dead children.
Ironic how in Norse, war is god's essence had the all-father as an thin old man
but in Greek, the place with magic as God's essence had the all-father as a buffed old man
Zeus is, in a way, the all father. In that about 90% of the people in greece are probably his descendants.
Hmm, that’s true.
But Odin was always more about starting the war, causing strife and mischief out of a desire to learn and experiment. So it makes sense that this knowledgable, skilled, powerful old man would be the all father of the Norse Pantheon.
Whereas Zeus simply uses his magic as a battering ram, as shown by the form he takes, raw power incarnate.
@@daemonlordmagnusthered6213 Tbh being a knowledge maniac like Odin is better than being a sex maniac like Zeus lol
@@daemonlordmagnusthered6213 His actually the youngest of the gods of Olympus he only look like a old man to inspire this wise persona
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I see myself in Odin in some way because Odin himself wanted to see _"what happens next"._
In real life, gathering information about other people or confidential stuff is an invasion of privacy and what Odin is doing is an invasion of the privacy of the divinity.
Out of all GoW characters, his portrayal was the most believable. He looked and sounded the most like an actual person being filmed.
Baldur sounded a lot like someone who's immortal and can't feel anything tho
I would have been taken in by Odin - no doubt about that. This portrayal of all the characters in this game was beyond anything I could have expected.
Nice to see how Atreus picture of him holding Kratos (dead) was, in fact, Odin.
Also nice to see that Sindri became the God of War "Thats what happens next" 😂🤣
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I didn't realize it at first, but he's using Durlin as a shield against Draugnir. That's the only reason why he brought him there. And Kratos doesn’t attack, he brushes it off by saying Durlin has "a lot to live for." A manipulator AND a coward
Love how Odin mentioned that Mimir never lost his sense of humor after mentioning how Loki freed "Tyr" Little slip there.
I don’t think Odin was always like this, I think there was a time he was a young and curious god who only sought knowledge. But that curiosity became an obsession which led him down the path of tyranny.
Odin is the very tyrannical figure Atreus could have been had he allowed his thirst for knowledge overrule everything else.
Here in my lodge, got the newest edition of vaneheim spears but you know what i like more than godly spears **teleports to his cavern library** KNOWLEDGE!
- Odin
Richard Schiff's portrayal as Odin is now embedded in my brain right next to James Woods' performance as Hades.
Just the perfect subversions to how you're *used* to seeing these figures portrayed.
This version of Odin reminds me of American Gods Odin, and the way he seemed so nonthreatening and wanting answers to where gods go when they die really makes you feel bad for him in one way. His actions though speak for themselves.
4:40 Heimdall was in his blindspot 🤣
This is an amazing interpretation of Odin and the voice actor is perfect. He looks like an old frail man with a calm voice that is inviting and relatable but is a master manipulator that rules with an iron fist. Basically a bureaucrat, like how we have today.
I also loved it when he went, "Auuuuugggghhh" phenomenal Richard Schiff, guy deserves awards for this performance.
As a huge fan of West Wing, Richard Schiff playing Odin was super trippy.
Mimir:"If he tells you the snow is white, he is lying"
Odin:"What kind of wisdom is that?"
😂😂😂
Odin, being the equivalent of a mafia boss, politician, oligarch or whatever you wanna call him, is so powerful yet seemingly mellow and unintimidating. Thor on the other hand, being his henchman, is intimidating as fuck. Looks all powerful and unstoppable. In reality, though, he is just a family person struggling with his problems like being an alcohol addict. The characters in this series are so well written and the social commentary is subtle but powerful. It doesn't take away from the bombastic action and comic -book style they go for, but it makes the story much, much deeper than it could have been with less talented writers and actors.
Lol Thor looks like the drunk version of the Spirit Of Christmas Present, from the Muppet Christmas Carol.
I love it when he tells Atreus he's not his father, then is immediately called "all-father" by Sif. Such a great little way of drawing attention to the fact that he's bullshitting. Yes, he's not Atreus' father, but the title he has everyone call him literally means "father to everyone and everything." Mimir was so right when he said "if he tells you snow is white, he's lying."
Odin is such an incredible villain because he's so warm, welcoming, humble, and seemingly trustworthy. He'll slide a knife in your back while you thank him for the backrub. Utterly chilling
Richard Schiff was great as Odin. There were quite a few moments when Toby Ziegler leaked out into his character and it was a treat.
i was think same thing but Toby Ziegler is a player of the game.
Case in point: 11:46