According to Prof. Dr. Andreas Schachner, the head of the research group, they were from the region where the cities of Karabük and Bolu are located in today's Turkiye.
Thank you for the news! I do wonder that why certain information likes goes very quietly. Sometimes not only the ancient past but also the news are left to be discovered.
That is a really important discovery. I have been studying Anatolian languages for quite a few years. I'm hoping it helps better connect the languages.
Somehow the work of an ancient language linguist reminds the work of a paleontologist. They discover some bone fossils, and they can directly classify organisms to broader branches of life according to thorough analysis of anatomical features based on the vast arrays of data from other fossils. Then they argue on more subtle classifications within a tree of life, but generally agree on a larger taxon, similar case with this Kalasma language, which is Anatolian. From what I know, Hittite was quite a recent discovery, beginning of 20 century? Hittite was deciphered from cuneiform, the script adapted by Accadians from Shumers, Accadians later developed it into some kind of syllabic/phonetics implied script, then it was adopted by Indoeuropean Hittites. Accadian syllables adopted by Hittite allowed to decipher it, as it was an Indoeuropean language that could be reconstructed by Indoeuropean comparative liguistics analysis. On the other hand, Shumerian which is a language isolate that was deciphered from Accadian (in other direction), which in its turn was deciphered by Semitic languages analysis and from newer alphabetic Semitic scripts of newer Semitic languages like Aramaic? Any chance @Learn Hittite could show an example of such chain of connections between Shumer - Accadian - Hittite, cuneiform, how they all were deciphered?
Perhaps this is when an Indo-European language(i.e. Kalasma) became a superstrate for the indigenous Hatti language, like Indo-Aryan did for Mitanni. I'm going to enjoy going through H. A. Hoffner and Craig Melchert's book. Hittite Luwian Lycian Palaic Carian Are you a Hittitologist?
I think this is a Kalašma quotation within one of the tablets of Hattuša (Boğazköy), so it's probably contemporaneous to the period 1650-1200. And as mentioned, probably from the north, so more likely that they interacted with speakers of Palaic and Kaskian than Hattic. That said, it is possible that (the nearly unattested) Kaskian is related to Hattic, on the basis of toponyms, so you may be onto something there.
I'd like to do a video on Pisidian to be honest. I really like taking a look at marginally attested languages and seeing what academics have come up. Cappadocian is a little more difficult though but still willing to look into it.
You're thinking more of Proto-Nostrium if you want to go back far enough for proto turkic altaic and and indoeuro-uralic were one. Like 10000-12000 years ago
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This is very interesting! I hope we find more of those minor Anatolian languages
Well, it's enitrely possible we will! very exciting times
According to Prof. Dr. Andreas Schachner, the head of the research group, they were from the region where the cities of Karabük and Bolu are located in today's Turkiye.
Thank you for the news!
I do wonder that why certain information likes goes very quietly. Sometimes not only the ancient past but also the news are left to be discovered.
Yeah it's a good question, I wonder the same thing too!
I just discovered these chanel, incredible content
Thank you very much for your kind words
Highly compelling and exciting!
I am excited that they are finding more findings of other Anatolian languages.
That is a really important discovery. I have been studying Anatolian languages for quite a few years. I'm hoping it helps better connect the languages.
Very important. I'm waiting impatiently for the inscriptions to be published so others can analyse them. It'll be interesting to see...
Somehow the work of an ancient language linguist reminds the work of a paleontologist. They discover some bone fossils, and they can directly classify organisms to broader branches of life according to thorough analysis of anatomical features based on the vast arrays of data from other fossils. Then they argue on more subtle classifications within a tree of life, but generally agree on a larger taxon, similar case with this Kalasma language, which is Anatolian. From what I know, Hittite was quite a recent discovery, beginning of 20 century? Hittite was deciphered from cuneiform, the script adapted by Accadians from Shumers, Accadians later developed it into some kind of syllabic/phonetics implied script, then it was adopted by Indoeuropean Hittites. Accadian syllables adopted by Hittite allowed to decipher it, as it was an Indoeuropean language that could be reconstructed by Indoeuropean comparative liguistics analysis. On the other hand, Shumerian which is a language isolate that was deciphered from Accadian (in other direction), which in its turn was deciphered by Semitic languages analysis and from newer alphabetic Semitic scripts of newer Semitic languages like Aramaic? Any chance @Learn Hittite could show an example of such chain of connections between Shumer - Accadian - Hittite, cuneiform, how they all were deciphered?
I think that's a great idea for a video. I'll try to get it released sometime in May. The next video will be about proto-Basque.
Big difference - there's rarely anything tangible!
Perhaps this is when an Indo-European language(i.e. Kalasma) became a superstrate for the indigenous Hatti language, like Indo-Aryan did for Mitanni.
I'm going to enjoy going through H. A. Hoffner and Craig Melchert's book.
Hittite
Luwian
Lycian
Palaic
Carian
Are you a Hittitologist?
Not by profession no, I actually study Khoe languages in that regard. Hittite is for fun!
I think this is a Kalašma quotation within one of the tablets of Hattuša (Boğazköy), so it's probably contemporaneous to the period 1650-1200. And as mentioned, probably from the north, so more likely that they interacted with speakers of Palaic and Kaskian than Hattic. That said, it is possible that (the nearly unattested) Kaskian is related to Hattic, on the basis of toponyms, so you may be onto something there.
@@LearnHittite Cool!
Which Khoe languages in particular (if I may ask)?
What I realized: some languages are still quite unknown. Then, other new language is found out.
It may trigger some sadness on language experts.
What are your thoughts on Pisidian and Cappadocian languages? They were some of the last Anatolian languages to become extinct.
I'd like to do a video on Pisidian to be honest. I really like taking a look at marginally attested languages and seeing what academics have come up. Cappadocian is a little more difficult though but still willing to look into it.
I'm new here.
If you learn Kurdish language you actually learn Hurro-Mitani, Hitites, Luwian etc languages. It is all connected linguistically and etymologically.
Kurdish is Indo-Aryanic, not Anatolian
Another Anatolian language. They all have allot of words common with Turkish. Proto Turkic is in my opinion the ancestor of Indo European.
Anatolian languages had gone extinct about 2000 years ago before Seljuk Turks reached Anatolia in 11 century AD :)
You're thinking more of Proto-Nostrium if you want to go back far enough for proto turkic altaic and and indoeuro-uralic were one. Like 10000-12000 years ago
Kalasma language is the best
It's certainly very interesting!