When I bought Movement in the early 1980s I was in high school and just been released from a child psychiatric ihospital. Still listening now when I'm 50. Still haunts me.
This is an iconic show. These songs are hauntingly beautiful even if some are a little hard to swallow " some people look down on me. I hope they like what they see". Hooky is on the money. All of them in their inexperience especially without Ian look so vulnerable yet they deliver. Sounds pretty much like the album songs.
'Celebration' (Granada TV, recorded 23 April 1981, broadcasted 18 June 1981) Set 1: Truth, Procession, Ceremony, Tiny Tim (Doubts Even Here), Truth, ICB, Death Rattle (Chosen Time) [2 takes] Set 2: Little Dead (Denial), Dreams Never End [3 takes], The Him, Procession, Senses, Little Dead, Ceremony, Digital A few versions also ended up on a DVD as part of the 'Movement (Definitive Edition)': Tiny Tim (Doubts Even Here), The Him, Procession, Senses, Little Dead (Denial)
Thanks to the uploader, just wanted to drop in and say even if these videos don’t have a giant audience there are a dedicated group of us Joy Division/New Order fans that appreciate people who upload and pass on these these videoclips so others that are interested can watch it. Appreciate it. It’s great to have this HD footage of the band. I love almost every song here but “Chosen Time” “Denial” and “Ceremony” are particularly great.
Eff me.. this has to be one of my favourite performances by New Order now. Look at Gillian go on the guitar AND the keys! And Stephen cementing his place among the top echelon of drummers.
I recorded this on an audio cassette when it went out and listened to it for years. I never imagined it was Hooky singing the first song! I always thought he'd have a deeper, gruffer voice.
WHOA! Are you fucking kidding me? Listen to the angst- lyrics and music- so fucking clear and pure! I never thought I would ever witness something like this! Thank yo so much, Dreams Never End! Evidently, my friend, they don't.
Hookys memoir has pointed me here. The geezer is a legend! Busting moves solo with a tv camera hovering. I’m surprised he fit his massive balls into the studio!
I remember 1981 as the year when no one danced or barely moved in the audience. I was like the one guy in this video who was dancing. I had no friends, obviously. :o)
Music i grew up on , can't seem to get enough of these live shows, especially all the joy division shows you can find on YT.... i just thank all you bootleggers that filmed/ recorded from the board/ or just managed to get these amazing show's from back in our recent antiquity and have shared them here ......
Boy…when Hooky started singing, I was pleasantly surprised! I dig this. And, I always say Gillian got picked on for no good reason. No matter what Hook writes, lol. She was just what they needed.
@@fredblair3018 Thank you I thought some of these songs had a Joy Division sound to them. I saw Peter Hook in an interview online said that some of these songs WERE Joy Division songs that they never did. Hearing this I can see my room at the barracks/dorm at Iraklion, Crete when I was there 1984-85. Not that I'd want to go back there ;-) Although Crete was nice. Loved the food. I pretty much kept up with New Order's lp releases up to Brotherhood. Not sure what happened after that. I don't remember.
@@whychromosomesmusic5766 I never knew that thank you for telling me explains a lot. Good story unfortunately I am too young for the eighties although most of the music I listen to is 70s or 80s the golden era
@@fredblair3018 Probably sounding old here but to me "unfortunately" and "young" are words that don't go together. I would give anything for the "misfortune" of being young again. Maybe in the rest of my lifetime they may create a time machine or device of some kind? I can hope ;-)
Was there.theyvdid a fantastic version of I.a.l.p which wasn't televised.im in the crowd at the end of dreams never end in an unknown pleasures t.shirt.i was 19.great memories.
I remember seeing this on tv , it changed the direction of my life, people need to remember the crap that most people were listening to at that time, this performance was groundbreaking at the time, I'd never seen anything quite like it on tv , they made a deep impression on me and my future.
@@BurtonRdForever playing devil's advocate here, you wouldn't be able to watch a gig like this after the fact if no one had filmed it. I do understand the appeal though, there is next to no evidence of the Sex Pistols' legendary Free Trade Hall gig.
I once read that this ( 1st song in this set ) is the song they Sued The Cure for copyright on when The Cure released In Between Days ( released 1985 ). They were not successful but you can hear why they might have had issue with In Between Days
"Hey, aren't you the band whose vocalist committed suicide?" Being on TV playing with your band barely a year after Ian's gone. There's more to the picture than meets the eye. P. S. Ceremony, one of the most amazing songs ever written.
Shame Joy Division was booked into playing Riverside Studios on return from the US, and was going to play Ceremony and Heart and Soul, shame it never happened and what great footage we would of had
At the time, Hook had a much more effective voice to lead on these songs. Confusingly, his deeper range on the studio version really had a Curtis touch. But maybe it was conscious decision by everyone in the band, that they step away from the "Joy Division II" connotations thus Bernard taking over. His lethargic tone of voice stayed weak (and out of tune) to the present day but altogether gave New Order a trademark charm all of its own. A great early live show, this.
@@pyrtwistPyrtwistWorldInMotion Yeah Hooky has explained that was part of the reason. Neither of them were very good at playing while singing, and they could arrange songs to have the guitar alternating with the vocal, which is pretty much what they’d already done in JD, but it wouldn’t work so well to have the bass cutting in and out. Also iirc he said Rob auditioned them and thought Barney was the least bad of the lot.
watched it [mate rang my house and the old duchess said mikes on the phone about new order...no idea bless her]..manchesters finest..the days of lois jeans adidas trainers soul music..inter city jibbers
So a year after Ian Curtis took his life must have been a tough time for the rest of the band,just to think two years later and blue Monday such a change because here it’s still more joy division than new order. But saying that all bands evolve
0:01 I contend that Dreams Never End was a JD song they had been working on that was never played live like Ceremony. It simply sounds too much like LWTUA era JD. Peter sang lead - he sang no other NO tunes, and his deep voice sounded like IC.
Dreams Never End is likely the very first original New Order song. Peter Hook came up with the bassline right around the time Ian died, might have even been the very same weekend. From there the rest of the song was written around the bass part, and Peter wrote the lyrics. He also sings Doubts Even Here, the second to last track on Movement, though that song was written by Stephen Morris.
@@clappingjazzhands9408 Ah! Okay! You are all correct on that. Sorry. Ha! I would like to say though that in general Hooky does play most songs with a 4 string including Dreams Never End in most performances. Ha! You got me on that one though. Cheers!
It took them a while to figure out who would be lead vocalist after ian died. They chose barney but it took him a while to grow into the role. Thats why the vocals are shared in their early days.
This sounds like the soundboard recording and not the broadcast version which they showed with overdubs. I was just asking which version of this this was
You probably have heard it, it was included on the Live In Glasgow DVD. The version you have just seems to be an edit from the soundboard synced up with the video from that because it sounds exactly like the versions I uploaded ruclips.net/p/PLvhtFJLy0g8uqpEDWD1bl-lDCLctdqXwo
Around this time, a record company exec said to me; these guys will never make it, they sing out of key. Years later they headline Madison Square Garden.
When I bought Movement in the early 1980s I was in high school and just been released from a child psychiatric ihospital. Still listening now when I'm 50. Still haunts me.
thanks for the story, soulminer.
never tire of listening
...
Thanks
This is an iconic show. These songs are hauntingly beautiful even if some are a little hard to swallow " some people look down on me. I hope they like what they see". Hooky is on the money. All of them in their inexperience especially without Ian look so vulnerable yet they deliver. Sounds pretty much like the album songs.
A little hard to swallow? 😂 None of these songs are hard to swallow, they are excellent. The lyric you quoted isn't particularly scathing, lol.
Inexperienced? They've only been playing together since 1976.
As many have described as “Unassuming” ... Passionately Novice. But very Very Good, and interesting.
At least In my opinion.
Remember Granada TV was northern UK and NO wanted more to do with that than the snobby elite London exposure.
'Celebration' (Granada TV, recorded 23 April 1981, broadcasted 18 June 1981)
Set 1: Truth, Procession, Ceremony, Tiny Tim (Doubts Even Here), Truth, ICB, Death Rattle (Chosen Time) [2 takes]
Set 2: Little Dead (Denial), Dreams Never End [3 takes], The Him, Procession, Senses, Little Dead, Ceremony, Digital
A few versions also ended up on a DVD as part of the 'Movement (Definitive Edition)':
Tiny Tim (Doubts Even Here), The Him, Procession, Senses, Little Dead (Denial)
This group is 4 individuals who were complementary to each other. A perfect harmony that unfortunately no longer exists
20:53 this is a mood, basically that’s me when I listen to New Order.
I love how Stephen is just doing his steady, 'human drum machine' job without fanfare behind, as always.
And 19:10 Bernard looks so very young.
25 here
I love his style, he works that high hat while hitting fills and snare. I wish he got more camera time.
He always. Looks young.
Peter Hook looks like he's being played by Edward Norton
Saw them in a muddy wet tent in Finsbury Park circa 1987. Worked on a machine in a factory listening to them on my Walkman. Real blue collar stuff.
Thanks to the uploader, just wanted to drop in and say even if these videos don’t have a giant audience there are a dedicated group of us Joy Division/New Order fans that appreciate people who upload and pass on these these videoclips so others that are interested can watch it. Appreciate it. It’s great to have this HD footage of the band. I love almost every song here but “Chosen Time” “Denial” and “Ceremony” are particularly great.
The fact that most of the sheep don't get it just proves how good this music is
Would not have any other way. Though the music is very poppy. The sheep could not processes it! Had school mates at the time they had no clue.
Eff me.. this has to be one of my favourite performances by New Order now. Look at Gillian go on the guitar AND the keys! And Stephen cementing his place among the top echelon of drummers.
i've seen NO twice and didn't notice Gillian on guitar either time. i had no idea.
Tracklist:
Dreams Never End - 0:00
ICB - 3:15
Chosen Time - 8:31
Denial - 12:30
Ceremony - 18:00
Truth - 22:53
Gillian rocks out on Truth.
The line of Bass is amazing!
I recorded this on an audio cassette when it went out and listened to it for years. I never imagined it was Hooky singing the first song! I always thought he'd have a deeper, gruffer voice.
this drummer is a machine!!!
And yet he gave it up later for a drum machine. He's on every all-time rock drummer list.
WHOA! Are you fucking kidding me?
Listen to the angst- lyrics and music- so fucking clear and pure!
I never thought I would ever witness something like this!
Thank yo so much, Dreams Never End!
Evidently, my friend, they don't.
20:54 the great Dec Hickey, showing us what 80’s white-man dancing is all about!
Hookys memoir has pointed me here. The geezer is a legend! Busting moves solo with a tv camera hovering. I’m surprised he fit his massive balls into the studio!
@@Postpunk-cx1ph I called her specially for this reason too. Just started the memoir and I’m already loving it.
@@Postpunk-cx1ph brill
I remember 1981 as the year when no one danced or barely moved in the audience. I was like the one guy in this video who was dancing. I had no friends, obviously. :o)
Thanks for this awesome video upload!
my first new order album was power corruption and lies. I bought it in 1985. watching this crowd I feel like more people should be dancing.
Music i grew up on , can't seem to get enough of these live shows, especially all the joy division shows you can find on YT.... i just thank all you bootleggers that filmed/ recorded from the board/ or just managed to get these amazing show's from back in our recent antiquity and have shared them here ......
The first song on the first album. A classic. Can't wait for 2019 Reissue !
Is there a reissue coming?
@@brandonburroughs7128 it's already came.
David Ellis what’s the song name?
@@TriiangleJellyfiish " Dreams Never End "
What's a reissue?
This is precious footage.
Gillian playing the guitar is sweet. Usually I've only seen her parked behind a keyboard.
20:53 iconic moment🙏
20:27 is just heaven ....then the way Hooky's bass rings out is the cherry on the cake.........AWESOME GUYS .......from a fellow Manc !
Excellent, saw them in Nov. 81 in Toronto. Movement represents a great transition from JD to NO.
Thanks. Rehearsed above them at this time in the Rialto in Broughton. Brought back good and sad memories.
17:23 - 17:41 Reminds me of Ian.
exactly !
Boy…when Hooky started singing, I was pleasantly surprised! I dig this. And, I always say Gillian got picked on for no good reason. No matter what Hook writes, lol. She was just what they needed.
Had this lp a few years after it came out. Whole thing is absolutely great and brings back memories. I'll be 60 this month where did the time go! ;-)
Happy birthday:)
@@fredblair3018 Thank you I thought some of these songs had a Joy Division sound to them. I saw Peter Hook in an interview online said that some of these songs WERE Joy Division songs that they never did. Hearing this I can see my room at the barracks/dorm at Iraklion, Crete when I was there 1984-85. Not that I'd want to go back there ;-) Although Crete was nice. Loved the food. I pretty much kept up with New Order's lp releases up to Brotherhood. Not sure what happened after that. I don't remember.
@@whychromosomesmusic5766 I never knew that thank you for telling me explains a lot. Good story unfortunately I am too young for the eighties although most of the music I listen to is 70s or 80s the golden era
@@fredblair3018 Probably sounding old here but to me "unfortunately" and "young" are words that don't go together. I would give anything for the "misfortune" of being young again. Maybe in the rest of my lifetime they may create a time machine or device of some kind? I can hope ;-)
WhyChromosomesmusic haha yes perhaps the next great band is round the corner although at the moment I’d take that time machine
Was there.theyvdid a fantastic version of I.a.l.p which wasn't televised.im in the crowd at the end of dreams never end in an unknown pleasures t.shirt.i was 19.great memories.
I remember seeing this on tv , it changed the direction of my life, people need to remember the crap that most people were listening to at that time, this performance was groundbreaking at the time, I'd never seen anything quite like it on tv , they made a deep impression on me and my future.
The people at that time couldn´t imagine how we celebrate this show today!
Fabulous upload. The chills it sends up my spine.
I loved it when crowds stood and absorbed music, rather than jumping around mugging and trying to get their flag on tv.
No fuckin mobiles times! People enjoying the gig...
@@jumofi well said. Fucking hate that "gotta film everything culture". What happened to memories.
@@BurtonRdForever playing devil's advocate here, you wouldn't be able to watch a gig like this after the fact if no one had filmed it. I do understand the appeal though, there is next to no evidence of the Sex Pistols' legendary Free Trade Hall gig.
Last gig I went too was 1999 oasis. No smart phones was perfect.
@@matthewjdouglas6471 you should get out more Matt
Ahhhh...The Great NO era. Guitars and vocals yeah we had hope during the Movement release, then came Power Corruption and Lies, then it was all over.
I once read that this ( 1st song in this set ) is the song they Sued The Cure for copyright on when The Cure released In Between Days ( released 1985 ). They were not successful but you can hear why they might have had issue with In Between Days
"Hey, aren't you the band whose vocalist committed suicide?" Being on TV playing with your band barely a year after Ian's gone. There's more to the picture than meets the eye. P. S. Ceremony, one of the most amazing songs ever written.
wahou !! the complete performanc with a really upgraded sound
Thank you. Needed this by accident.
great quality, thanks for the uplosd DNE
I spotted me
Bernard was so monotone in this...in Taras (soon after) with the same songs he found his own voice and went away from the monotone
Thanks for uploading this! One of my favorite performances
Yes, had it on audio cassette. Great quality upload.
New Order son parte de mi recuerdo de los 80s que ama mi corazon... saludos de Peru.
This is the best quality I've seen of this gig, thanks for sharing.
The chords and the riff after the verses of 'dreams never end' sounds like the cure 'in between days '
It really does, although dne came out before in between days
Wow fantastic thanks
Gracias!!!!
Gillian is 80's hot!!
1:28 Dreams Never End " solo" ... Mi favorita.
Shame Joy Division was booked into playing Riverside Studios on return from the US, and was going to play Ceremony and Heart and Soul, shame it never happened and what great footage we would of had
In NEVER wanted to go to the US of A. He detested everything America stood for then. He was NEVER getting on that fucking plane!
Thanks.
This should be in the National sound archive. ❤
Wonderful!
At the time, Hook had a much more effective voice to lead on these songs. Confusingly, his deeper range on the studio version really had a Curtis touch. But maybe it was conscious decision by everyone in the band, that they step away from the "Joy Division II" connotations thus Bernard taking over. His lethargic tone of voice stayed weak (and out of tune) to the present day but altogether gave New Order a trademark charm all of its own. A great early live show, this.
It was indeed a concious decision! If I recall correctly they picked out the vocalist that sounded the least like Ian.
Can't play bass and sing. JD's tracks had the vocals go around the guitar not the bass.
@@pyrtwistPyrtwistWorldInMotion Yeah Hooky has explained that was part of the reason. Neither of them were very good at playing while singing, and they could arrange songs to have the guitar alternating with the vocal, which is pretty much what they’d already done in JD, but it wouldn’t work so well to have the bass cutting in and out. Also iirc he said Rob auditioned them and thought Barney was the least bad of the lot.
Fancied Gillian sooooo bad after seeing this when I was older than I am now
merci :)
7:18 It looks like Bernard is crying or holding back from crying, remembering Curtis.
This set of songs is an amazing look at the sound and haunting style of 80s new dimension prog rock
So shy,, but heroes at the same time
JF / NO made music for all times to come
PARABEN$ NEW ORDER brasiL13 ama vocês ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~y~
Cheers for this upload - some of this footage - Ceremony was used in the NewOrder story documentary from the 90's wasn't it?
Yes.
Holy cow that was Jillian playing guitar!
watched it [mate rang my house and the old duchess said mikes on the phone about new order...no idea bless her]..manchesters finest..the days of lois jeans adidas trainers soul music..inter city jibbers
21:07 A lone dancer ahead of his time 🙂
Manchester Music & M9 Kidz on sale now for charity a factory fairy tales story from a true Manc
Beauty is Truth thats all you need know..
😍 😍 😍
New Order at their most intense best.
DNE is a very classic NO. Do not know the band dropped this song.
Probably because of Hooky
Drunk Barney 20:13
So a year after Ian Curtis took his life must have been a tough time for the rest of the band,just to think two years later and blue Monday such a change because here it’s still more joy division than new order. But saying that all bands evolve
See a few Perry's in the crowd. Always had a massive football hooligan following. Looks like Barney has partaken in some whizz.
“Whizz “?
@@gustercc amphetamine sulphate.
Forever Joy Division
No superlatives are good enough.
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMNNNNNNNNN
fucking brilliant
The album made in purgatory.
New Order at their best
Learning on the job.. especially Gillian
Gillian looks just like greek or roman goddess
Петер Хук жалко что ушел.
The kids showing no respect to Gillian ! Just ignore her and turn them backs !
Fantastic
ICB es Divided by joy de Sumo,.... no sé quién se la copió a quién.....
0:01
I contend that Dreams Never End was a JD song they had been working on that was never played live like Ceremony.
It simply sounds too much like LWTUA era JD.
Peter sang lead - he sang no other NO tunes, and his deep voice sounded like IC.
Dreams Never End is likely the very first original New Order song. Peter Hook came up with the bassline right around the time Ian died, might have even been the very same weekend. From there the rest of the song was written around the bass part, and Peter wrote the lyrics.
He also sings Doubts Even Here, the second to last track on Movement, though that song was written by Stephen Morris.
Bass 6 Strings!
It's a 4 string. He just plays it well.
futurereducer no it’s a 6 string bass
@@neoisis9373 watch the video. You'll see there are 4 pegs. Look and pause at 5:12.
futurereducer he played more than 1 bass. Look at the first song. 2:45
@@clappingjazzhands9408 Ah! Okay! You are all correct on that. Sorry. Ha! I would like to say though that in general Hooky does play most songs with a 4 string including Dreams Never End in most performances. Ha! You got me on that one though. Cheers!
is that hooky singing on the first track?
Yes! He sang lead on two tracks from movement "Dreams Never End" &"Doubts Even Here"
Peter Hook and the LIght search it.
It took them a while to figure out who would be lead vocalist after ian died. They chose barney but it took him a while to grow into the role. Thats why the vocals are shared in their early days.
No. It's Jillian Gillburp.
Kings of rhythm.
show d +
Is this without the overdubs?
what do you mean?
This sounds like the soundboard recording and not the broadcast version which they showed with overdubs. I was just asking which version of this this was
hmm, I've never seen a version with overdubs, I'm sure it's original soundboard
You probably have heard it, it was included on the Live In Glasgow DVD. The version you have just seems to be an edit from the soundboard synced up with the video from that because it sounds exactly like the versions I uploaded ruclips.net/p/PLvhtFJLy0g8uqpEDWD1bl-lDCLctdqXwo
I could swear that this big guy on the front was next to me at Finsbury Park concert in 2002.
Around this time, a record company exec said to me; these guys will never make it, they sing out of key. Years later they headline Madison Square Garden.
what's the song between 13 and 17 minutes?
"Denial"
Wait, is he doing the Carleton dance at 20:54?
Gillian's stuff only just fit on that podium
Fire the soundman! Mark Smith would never have put up with that.
Oops I got somezcoted I pedd my pants!
Ian mal tinha morrido e eles já criaram outra banda
First performance of Ceremony since Ian’s sad death. Must’ve been insanely nervracking…
they already played Ceremony before that, here is an example
ruclips.net/video/HeE_KfKjgZQ/видео.htmlsi=HQCj_yz74Z0tM1A3
too pay is to fail...........icj mufc loyal.....