Is SLI Dead...!? DUAL RTX 2070 Super Vs. RTX 2080 Ti
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2019
- If we get 2 RTX 2070 Supers and NVLink them together, will this beat the biggest and most expensive GPU on the market - the RTX 2080 Ti? Well today we answer that question with 1440p and 4K testing.
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It's ridiculous: two 70-grade cards are cheaper than a single flagship card...
Artificial inflation. We should also have DX13 by now. Intel lagging behind in chipset advancements (ex. PCIE 4.0) and Nvidia not making compelling products (RTX is just Pascal rehashed, with AI cores and with GDDR6) is ultimately holding us back in PC gaming. The lower the price of the x80 card, the better the market is doing. We haven't had a decent x80 card for price/performance since the 980. Some might argue the 780 too.
@Raider 2747 you mean the vega 56?
@@youtuberobbedmeofmyname Why spend money on research when the competiton is way behind (was the case for intel and is still the case for nvidia)
@Raider 2747 Lies. Even the 570 is better. P/P.
@@williamskagen9901 Why does Radeon have PCIE 4.0 and superior software sharpening, not to mention far superior encode/decode compared to RTX?
The amount of graphs in this one is absolutely awesome and that means the time it took to put this video together is very appreciated.
I'm surprised nobody else has covered this. I think the most exciting part about the 2070 Super, is that they added SLI.
*edit* although those 0.1% lows aren't the best. :P
I think Jay two cents made a rew on sli he think it is dead with sli. ruclips.net/video/7_1OWdNDNLg/видео.html
Because it's basically a 2080.
They're legit terrible for 90% of the games tested here.
IMO, it's the reason (Has been since SLi/Crossfire's inception) why Multi GPU is terrible for gaming.
I like my 2 RTX 2080s SUPER. They crush games like Jedi Fallen Order, Borderlands 3 and Red Dead Redemption 2
Daniel lecho I have only 3 games in my game library for which I had to tweak the SLI profiles: Apex Legends (which originally came with SLI support but due to an engine modification lost it down the road), Borderlands 3 (which doesn't natively support SLI as an AMD sponsored title) and Red Dead Redemption 2 (which is coded for Vulkan multi-GPU but for whatever reason need a line of code to be modified in the system.xml game file and the game to be run in windowed borderless mode to properly run on RTX GPUs).
Unreal Engine games like Borderlands 3, The Outer Worlds, Jedi Fallen Order and Ace Combat 7 are not the best when it comes to scaling but the NVLink can still brute force its way to 50-70% scaling depending where you are in the game world (However Borderlands 3 is a bad port that runs on one CPU core and as a consequence needs a 5GHz 9700K or 9900K in order to see any meaningful scaling). RDR2 support m-GPU through Vulkan and has almost perfect scaling. Dunia Engine games like Far Cry 5 and Far Cry New Dawn scale a bit like Unreal Engine games. CryEngine games like Kingdom Come Deliverance, Ryse Son Of Rome, (Hunts Showdown which I don't have) or Star Citizen offer 70-80% scaling with a good CPU. Frostbite Engine games games like Star Wars Battlefront 2 and Mirror's Edge Catalyst have perfect scaling. Source Engine games like Apex Legends and Titanfall 2 also scale perfectly. Games like Deus Ex series, Tomb Raider series, Overwatch, Rocket League, Destiny 2, Project Cars 2, F1 2019, MotoGp 19, TT Isle Of Man 2, offer 70-90% scaling. Those are my NVLink scaling results at 1440p max settings with an i9-9900K on a 1440p G-Sync 165Hz monitor (with a possible upgrade to 1440p 240Hz in the future). At 4K you should normally be in a more GPU bound scenario which should make those scaling numbers even higher.
I don't have games like Resident Evil 3, GTA 5, Strange Brigade, Devil May Cry 5, Hunts Showdown, Sniper Elite 4, Zombie Army 4 or Hitman 2. But I know they offer great SLI performance as well.
You should also be aware that some franchises abandoned SLI support. Battlefield 1, The Division 1, Call Of Duty Black Ops 4, Ghost Recon Wildlands and Gears Of Wars 4 had SLI support while Battlefield 5, The Division 2, Call Of Duty Modern Warfare, Ghost Recon Breakpoint and Gears 5 don't. I don't have Modern Warfare and Breakpoint but I have The Division 2 and Battlfield 5. Those games switched to DX12 and need the mulit-GPU support to be enabled directly by devs. Gears 4 already had DX12 multi-GPU support so it was quite disappointing to not see Gears 5 support it as well. Dirt 3 and Dirt Rally had great SLI support but Dirt 4 and Dirt Rally 2.0 need to have custom SLI profiles to properly work again.
Other franchises didn't have SLI support but now support it. F1 2016, MotoGP18 and Ride didn't have SLI support but F1 2018, F1 2019, MotoGP 19 and Ride 3 do. There's also an increasing list of games for which SLI is exclusively supported on RTX GPUs like The Outer Worlds, Metro Exodus (with CFR SLI on DX12) and Ace Combat 7.
If NVidia improve CFR SLI, many DX12 games will receive multi-GPU support at driver level like Metro Exodus did without the need for developer's intervention. That remains to be seen.
I'm really surprised at the dual rtx 2070 super result. They absolutely haul!
Thanks for another informative video Bryan.
So happy, some 1080p Tech Yes Quality.
Give it away to us? Nvidia is so nice! Almost makes me forget the years of PRICE GOUGING!
Polo!
Boom roasted
Right. Our white knight indeed. Screw them, still. I bet Brian l8ked your comment, but couldn’t like it because, you know, Nvidia.
If you think price gouging is prolific today, go find an old computer magazine from the early 2000's. The prices will make you fall off your chair.
@@poopipeboy3033 I remember in summer 2003, the most expensive video card available for sale in Southern Ontario was an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro. Looking on the WayBack Machine, it was C$519 2003 dollars. In 2019 dollars, that would have been C$690. Nvidia was a couple hundred cheaper. The cheapest 2080 Ti, same top tier bracket is now double the price of the top tier bracket in 2003. Nvidia is gouging us without competition.
There should be no reason that the top tier GPU should be more than 35% the cost of a good gaming PC.
They're so thoughtful. Great content! I always look forward to watching, when YT decides to give me the notification!
Love your channel been following you for a long time now, amazing content always, keep up the good work !!!
I also tested this but I only saw about a 5% difference in my faps per second in PornHub so I didn't see the point in keeping it.
you need 4K 144hz porn lol
Yeah legit waiting for VR porn ..Well atleast more
Did you turn RTX On?
maybe start lifting to see more?
You need to go VR instead with 4K and RTX turned on
always remember to avoid using TAA when going sli.
rustigsmed is this still the case with NVLink?
@@funnyitworkedlasttime6611 yes
What is the reason?
@@etemkaandelibas3649 something to do with how TAA works under the hood - it just isn't made to work with sli. generally artifacting or lower fps than using one card (which doesn't occur when you turn it to another method) result when it is on depending on the game.
@@user-dz3ph7dl4m thanks
Cool, straight to the point, not too flashy, very well presented - SUBSCRIBED!
this is awesome. Thank you for your time benching these
Hey, Bryan. Before you give that RTX Super away. Would you kindly do video about the cards abilities in productivity with the SLI Link in place?
Thanks Bryan.
Looks interesting.
I don't have a twitter or Instagram account.
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The SLI setup I used was 2x GTX760's and it was very impressive... until a Windows 10 update made it unusable.
Mon from Brisbane
Honestly thought I was subbed already. Love your videos man.
Thankyou so much for making this video! I’m in the process of building my gaming rig and this video makes me want to run 2070 supers now!
That lovely Sonic music.
SLI is great when it works, unfortunately most new games don't support SLI and you second graphics card is useless.
If you have not 2 cards, probably....
Stop talikng bullshit, I have 2 RTX 2080s SUPER and 40% of my game library has SLI support including Apex Legends and F1 2019 released in 2019.
@@Patrick73787 Apex sucks.
@@DerrickRG I play a lot of Star Citizen, Titanfall 2, Star Wars Battlefront 2, F1 2019, Dirt 4, Dirt Rally 2.0, Overwatch, Project Cars 2. I rarely play Apex. It just depends on the game you play. I just mentioned Apex because it is a recent title.
@@Patrick73787 So 60% of the time your second graphics card is doing nothing? 2 games out of how many in 2019 have SLI support? I sold 2 1080 ti's and got one 2080 ti, couldn't be happier. Even
JayzTwoCents had to admit SLI is dying.
ruclips.net/video/7_1OWdNDNLg/видео.html
I just found your channel and subscribed, I enjoyed your presentation, being a disabled man and an old school gamer (D@D,Traveler,Shadow Run...) as well as being a new fangled gamer (I am a proud Star Citizen), I have an older PC I built in 2014, Id love to have a good Video card like these...some day - some day, Have a blessed day to everyone!
Excellent video mate! Just got a 2070 super after watching this vid. Would love to see SLI vs non benchmarks for Premiere and Blender!
I have had sli since the 400 series until recently, I must say it's not difficult in most cases to force sli in games that aren't supported, but definitely developers are not caring much for it, which is sad because it's the only way to get good fps in extreme escenarios.
1:46 remix of Stardust Speedway from Sonic CD!
which version? i can't find it
Always love your reviews you you always do a good job
Great research...viewed many tubers on video cards and definitely enjoyed your research. To me, your views are more on point!
twitter and instagram for entries, bleh.
to win a ngreedia card no thanks.
Nice remix of Stardust Speedway!
It's easily my favourite track from Sonic CD/Mania :)
very informative. good stuff dude :D
Wow, super generous, thanks for the chance. Very interesting results.
Technology stays true to its origins. Its like Twin Turbo on a car - two can outperform one turbine, but can cause variable issues despite some advantages. Still its an eye candy to see such monstrous method can be done :)
Charles Sami Amyouni wut
A single turbo performs better than two tho lmao
You sure can't read then.
Nvidia: “We will only give you a 2070 super if you do a giveaway for it”
Tech yes: “I see this as an absolute win!”
FUCK NVIDIA !
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 Linus is that you?
@Marvin Zimmerman No, Abkhazian.
@Marvin Zimmerman Agree. Georgia is beautiful and people there are awesome. However it is neighbor country. I'm from Abkhazia (Apsny).
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 ?
Great video mate
I love giveaways, but i m going to have to miss this one, since i was stalked i no longer do social media, still very nice video, keep up the good work
Those 0.1% lows though. Welcome to stutter city!
msi afterburner and rivatuner kills the microstutter
3:44 Run that stuff in slow motion and you got that shot even more sicker.
lol, did you leave in a b roll shot of you dropping the camera during the SLI b roll shots? haha i had to watch it back like 5 times hahaha i was cracking up lol! classic
Very Nice Video Mate !!!!!!
Sonic CD - Stardust Speedway (JP/EU) at 1:11
More like cheap off-brand remix by some royalty-free nobody.
So Brian is in good relationship with nVidia, very good!) Great video and stunning results. Good luck to everybd in int giveaway. #TechYESRules !!! If I will win (and I live not in Australia and not even in USA) I'll have to buid a Ryzen PC for myself (at last!), sorry Intel.
I haven't duel-GPUd since the X1850 days so I'm interested to see how this pans out!
Informative video.
R9 gang. I I need a gpu upgrade...space heater powercolor
power efficiency isn't there...
good content as always keep up,,,
in reality power efficiency isnt really what people are thinking when building a pc especially when we are talking maybe a couple extra bucks a month.....not a valid point whatsoever
Thanks mate!
Nice video m8!! All I did with my 2080 was up the fan speed till it matches the noise level of my 6 case fans lol so stays at 90% and temps never exceed 52°c when gaming , and around 28-32c at idle .
But I was planning on nvlink'ing mine with another but wasn't sure if I should or not.
I'd go for the best single card you can afford
Same
And that’s still trash at 4k... you want my Titan Xp? It did 67 fps in Fortnite last I tested (95% of my ownership it sits on a shelf in the closet, where it belongs!), my 4x Fury works amazing however (100 fps in Crysis 3 at 4k Ultra), and most of my games support Xfire really well (about 80% of the games I want to play this year have crossfire support). I’m not going back to console fps at 4k, I’m leaving that to consoles! Single GPU just sucks...
@@jakegarrett8109 wired flex; but okay
Jake Garrett worrying about 4K is a joke anyways. I’ll keep my 1440p 165hz.
And then get another one
SLI had consistently worse 0.1% lows, its more stuttery
Exactly what i took away from it. bigger benchmarks, worse actual experience.
That's because during initialization of SLI they do have studded but once loaded the experience is better. You're seeing at studded in the first 10 seconds of gameplay
Not true
@@HauntedAbysss I mean....in over 70% of the cases here, that was true, and your eye detects big variance more than anything. And having owned many, many multi GPU setups from both Nvidia and AMD, yes, yes it is.
@@extreme4kgaming266 i can tell you with having owned 5 generations of multi GPU, and looking at those results, no, that isn't the case, multi GPU has always had micro stutter and frame pacing issues. And now both Nvidia and AMD care a lot less about it than they did then, it's nothing new, only gotten worse.
Legend! love your channel man
Here I was think SLi was dead in the water! Good review, the quality just keeps getting better and better!
If I was going to drop 2x$900AUD on a sli 2070s setup.. it would want to work flawlessly. I'd rather not take that gamble and run 1x$1900aud 2080ti.
IMO, sli is good for those that already have the most affordable card they could get at the time.. and find a second card for cheap
This is basically my though as well. Yes when SLI works it is better, but it does tend to introduce unforseen issues. That being said cool test, good to know. I'll still stick with my 2080Ti though.
@@vedomedo Man, but what does it feel like to pull out over 1300 plus taxes just for 1 video card? Done it once and luckily sold it in time before It got obsolete and have never spent that much again.
If you can afford this amount of gpu then you can afford water cooling them..
look into my youtube account
When I see a new TYC video I click thumbs up before watching ✌🏻😊 it’s fun! You guys should try it too! Haha
The best test I am looking for !!
3:43 did the camera drop ? :D
Because it passed out rendering those gpu 😆😆
Haha seems like it xD
Either you get higher average FPS compared to a powerful single card solution, but trash framepacing, causing stutter. Or, you get lower than average FPS in comparison.
All with the sweet taste of a higher power draw, and high temps too.
So yeah, it works great. Unless it doesn't, which is like 99% of the time.
Hmmm you think he would of mentioned stuttering.
NVlink reduces the stuttering by a lot.
Studded is within the first 10 seconds of starting a game the .1% lows are very misleading here
@@TheRealCatof it's a software issue, not a hardware one.
@@Najvalsa I get that, but nvlink has fewer stutters than sli
Great video :)
Great video Brian! Personally I would water cool my GPU's if doing SLI.
Maybe all these sli videos will make devs want to add sli to their games lol
#bringbacksli
Nvlink and pcie 4.0, it's the perfect time. No more bandwidth limitations. And nvlink is fantastic
How much would it cost for a rx5700xt r5 3600 16gb 3600 mhz ram b450mobo build would cost on black friday the tower only
$3.50
Less than 1700 USD
I was thinking around 1k usd
@@jasondeng3820
Possible
For components you said
I count for complete rig,
PSU Storages Case Cooler
Btw,
Why 16gb 3600mhz??
They cost almost same as R5 3600
@@ZAR556 they dont not where i live
Wow I did not expect that with sli
Great video.
I din't have twitter and i'm NOT going to make one
do a giveaway on YT
SLI is indeed dead. The SLI setup rarely beats the 2080Ti on 0.1% low frame times.
In most of the games in the past and present this is the case, this is due to limitation of AFR technology - each card render different frame and send the frame via the main card
Due to different and inconsistent render time of each frame this can cause stutter which is seen in 1% and 0.1% low frame times. The hope is maybe with future API and games
The benefits of NVlink throughput will be able to use the two cards as one unit solving the issue with AFR. but until then SLI(AFR in general) is de-facto the only way for using multi GPUs
in most games.
This is not true, I have 2 RTX 2080s SUPER NVLinked with faster GDDR6 vram. 0.1% lows on my GPUs are higher than single 2080Ti.
If it was dead, then nVidia wouldn't have put SLi/Nvlink connectors on the cards.
@@Patrick73787 I've seen many of your comments stating that you have two 2080s since launch. Now you're saying you have 2080 SUPERs? Did you really "upgrade" to two super cards for a negligible performance gain?
@@forza1sra I've been upgrading my GPUs every year since the last 3 years. nVidia GPUs are quite easy to re-sell. I upgrade every year before my current GPUs lose too much value. I remember last year selling my 2 GTX 1080s for $400 each card, basiclly 2/3 of their original value just when RTX 20 series launched. RTX 2080 Super have a higher ocerclocking headroom. I just have 15% less performance than a 2080 Ti in single GPU scenario.
Greetings from Mexico! Tech YES loving gets this far
Interesting to see these benchmarks.
I'd love to see two 1080TI's In SLI compared with this result.
1080Ti destroys a 2070S so it would be the same scenario, SLI 1080Ti will eat SLI 2070S
Adam Flexen no? since 1080 TI doesn’t have anymore support from nvidia, 2070S is now tied or better then the 1080 TI
@@radish1972 ive got a 2080super, 1080ti and a 2070 non super, i know that the 2080 super has not gained much speed from being "supported" and the 1080ti hasnt exactly been "destroyed" or even lost value to the 2070 super, from the benchmarks of the cards. The 2000 series was just a flat out BAD generation and i regret wasting money on the 2000 series. heres hoping the 3000 series will actually be faster at rasterization.
"is SLI dead?"
was it ever alive?
Back in the 6, 7, 8, and 9 series days (04-09), SLI was a very viable option. A higher percentage of games supported it, and there were some killer SLI setups. I had 3 different SLI GPU combos. One of them was a pair of 8800 GTs. Each card was $250, and offered about 90% of the performance of the top dog 8800 GTX, which was well over $500. The 8800 GTs in SLI absolutely demolished the GTX. As late as 2010-11, there were some good SLI options that made sense. The GTX 460 was killer in SLI.
@@hartsickdisciple I had a 8800 GT SLI setup too, it was my first setup that run Crysis on High above 60 FPS, loved it. Shame today it's not really worth it
Hey, my 2 x 970's were well supported and put up numbers better than the base GTX 1080 for a while after it came out. People can call BS, but it's 100% true.
Unfortunately that didn't keep up, and SLI hasn't been supported well since...though Nvidia is now saying they're going to make a bigger push to make it relevant again
Yes. 9800 GTX SLI was my last sli build and it was a beast beating out the 9800GX2 which was more expensive. Ofcourse this was when SLI was being pushed and heavily supported.
Nice vidéo, i have forêt about the sli, lol. I m very surprised of this 2070 super sli👍👍👍👍
Very interesting!
For the love of tech, let this thing die. It never worked proper, it's like being on hell for devs to optimize games for SLI/CrossFire, draw crazies amount of energy (not to mentioned the heat), introduce stuttering if not done correctly and the bugs, omg the bugs were everywhere (I never wanna own SLI/CrossFire ever again). Scale like sh&& and only works on some synthetics benchmarks.
I understand the love that enthusiastic nourish for the tech (it's cool, can't deny it), but the pratical application of it is just not worth at all; even cards with two GPU's on a sigle pcb did not work well.
The 1% lows tells me despite the FPS increase on SLI it wouldn't feel as great to game on compared to what the average is implying.
Enjoyed the video 😊😊
Thanks for the review
🏵️🌸🌺
I have one Galax RTX 2070 super at the moment and will use it for 3D work. Modelling texturing rendering etc. I will use Octane renderer for Cinema4D software.
Will the SLI set up worth in my case?
Thanks great video
Yes, but it will boost only the rendering (tough the most expected).
It’s “fewer” CUDA cores, not “less” CUDA cores. 🙄
betting right now that the 2080 ti will somke them both.
EDIT : I eat my words, rip 2080 ti.
Your profile picture is very cursed
@@uros5530 Muda Muda Daze.
Great test, hopefully i will win the card :) Nice greetings from Austria!
OMG! The scaling is insane! Better then ever before, tho i kinda feel there's a lot of other games that doesn't support multi-GPU, among them quite a lot AAA tittles 😭
Wd40 cheapskates are back
what is that?
Explain someone.
Hmm, didn't expect such good results!
Glad that some titles still utilize dual GPU configuration even though I don't own a system that has that configuration and the games I play don't seem to utilize it either. My RX 580 is doing pretty good on FFXIV (the game I play the most) at 1440p but I have to turn down a lot of settings down or off to get solid 60 FPS.
FYI you can use nvidia profiler inspector to override the NVLINK profiles the same way it works with plain SLI - "absence of SLI support" actually means absence of proper SLI profile, which can be picked and tuned manually.
Going back a number of years I remember trying out Sli, cannot remember what card but i was disappointed some games did not support it but my biggest gripe was that even though it was saying i was getting good frame rates....it did not feel it and then i discovered about microstuttering which back then most places did not test, in the end i preferred just using the one card
great video
Great Video, I love the Nvidia RTX Super Series :>
Interesting comparison.
Hey Tech Yes City did you ever get around to do the Tamper protection benchmarks? I am a lil hesitate about turning it off.
So awesome. So glad you did SLI!There is a profile for tom Clancys division 2
Results surprised me!
Great video, shipping to Canada mate?
Great to see a giveaway! Would you consider gleaming up entries from RUclips or FB in the future? For the old people who can't stand the thought of the narcissistic barrage of selfies and hashtags that would await in a Twitter / Instagram account? Not expecting a YES, but it would be nice to have it on the platform that you live on :)
Nice video, but if you are going to be showing the benchmarks you should keep each gpu in the same place. I felt it was kind of hard looking for the results I wanted to see
I was using (2) 1 GB GTX 460s in sli back in 2010. It worked pretty well back then, even with Crysis 3.
Here in denmark i have a couple of neighbors around me who own a 2080ti sli rig and they are on their 40's and 50's but don't game except browsing the internet and watching youtube.. And im stuck with a hd7970 from 2013 playing all sorts of games lmao
Didn’t really expect those results at all
Nice video, because not all people can do SLI, now i know the division 2 not optimize for SLI
Let’s make it happen captain 👍 luv ya stuff.😁
I'm glad you made this video. I am going to finally subscribe. I like people who do SLI/Crossfire. It's technology that should be dominating but we live in an era where even our software developers are lazy and don't wont to go the extra mile in programming games to work with multiple GPUs, like those that do very little multi-CPU core software dev.
good stuff
The benchmarking music isn't that a remix of stardust speedway from Sonic CD?
A case with a side fan makes all the difference. Also judging by the temps on the lower card it may just be a cooler running chip. Swapping the cards may even out the temps a bit. I've actually had this happen on multiple sli and crossfire setups.
Thank you for posting this. Want to do a dual card system. Wondering though how this dual 2070 Super setup rates against the new single 3080 series cards?