A MAJOR ELECTRICAL TRANSFORMATION! - Consumer Unit Upgrade
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2024
- A MAJOR ELECTRICAL TRANSFORMATION! - Consumer Unit Upgrade.
It's transformation time, in this episode of Artisan Electrics we're taking on a major upgrade. With a mix of multiple new and very old consumer units, this is certainly an electrical challenge. Can everything be condensed down into one? Let's find out!
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⏱️Timestamps
00:00 In This Episode
01:49 Why We Quote
03:41 Investigating
04:37 Dream Tool
06:35 Safe Isolation
07:24 Over To John
08:17 Still Got It?
09:28 By A Thread
11:07 Delivery
11:42 Getting Ready
12:53 Getting There
14:35 Two Days Later
16:14 Final Thoughts
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Let know your thoughts on the super transformation. Would you have done anything different?
Good
My thoughts are it would of been better for the viewer to see everything powered up and working at the end? Great fantastic job tho well done 👍🏻
spot on job as usual. sure you've posted before but what grommet strip is Lee using there?
Can you please put a link in the description for the work trousers you guy are using. 💪🏻⚡️👊🏻
bit.ly/3z6jBXs - Blaklader
John made a wonderful job of that fuse board that was a work of art. A real credit to you all!
6:02 Lee and Luke both thinking dust sheet? Are you mad Jordan, get back in the office 🤣🤣😉😉
John is a great addition to the Artisan team with some amazing insights! Thanks for the video!
Our pleasure!
Hi guy's, I'm not an electrician, but have to say that new board looked a nice professional install to me. I'd be well chuffed if it was my house for sure. Alex.
Thanks Alex!
I am an electrician and yes that's a great job 👍🏾
15:05 You might consider installing small LED mains with battery backup powered light next to the CU. That way in-case a breaker trips you will have light to check the breakers. Seen it done a few times and does work out nice. Just small linear strip lamp above the CU, and for the cool Aritsan touch, it could have door switch so it would come on when door is open, as it looks like a coat closet as well. 👍😁
These emergency lights also come in din rail versions, for ease of mounting.
Cracking Idea. I've done this for years where to consumer units is and one in the stairwell too.
This John guy he’s got potential for a “splinter channel “ 👍
That's one hell of a good job.
I'd hire you guys to do this, and I'm an electrician myself.
Amazing!
Another great video guys . Don’t tell me Cory wanted his own calendar 😂👍
When you say the whole crew you’re missing Mr eat it all🤣🤣🤣
and his son.
Great Vlog again Jordan . Excellent work by the team .Wondered if you labelled the circuits as they go thru the junction box to new consumer unit or instal a Panel shedule for easy identification for future work.
Highest quality work, as usual from Artisan - not just the electrical work itself, but every aspect of the job.
Thanks Steve!
Excellent job lads. I'm sure the homeowner will be well pleased.
You guys are inspiring me to become an electrician, great work and the attention to detail is second to none.👍
Great job & vlog guys - Thanks
Great install there John. Another great electrian taken on by Jordan.
Very impressive indeed, great job guys!
John is an absolute weapon, great video. Cheers guys
Amazing work again as always 👍
John is a board change Zen Master,I wouldn't have done anything different, there's a lot of Electricians out there,who could take a leaf out John's book & that mega junction box was beautiful,simple but effective,also a good place to grab a feed,if need be in the future,providing it's nothing too crazy.All in all another outstanding Artisan
product.🔌⚡🎇
Been binge-watching your videos for the last 24 hours! been very enjoyable to watch, I was recently on an electrician course and the trainers made it very unenjoyable, perhaps COVID didn't help with the training centers being closed and everything was book taught over zoom, etc, but watching these videos has made me consider trying again but I'm currently 27 and feel I wouldn't get accepted as an apprentice due to my age.
I only accept apprentices over 25, unless I have met them/known them for a while. Had about 5 apprentices and they were not mature enough and ended up wasting time. Hope you give it a go pal good luck
Spotted one of the artisan vans passing through Huddersfield a while back👌🏾
This is absolutely INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Glad you think so!
Top job John
👌🏼😎
Epic job John... Currently looking for a new board and some electrics done in an old outhouse along with some outdoor lights & sockets for a patio area... Sadly your way out of my area (Cumbria) otherwise I'd have you quote us. Got a quote from a local Spark for the work and I think he's quoted so we don't use him. Upgrade of the outhouse board, 8 lights and 2 sockets over £1800 + Vat. And we're supplying the lights & sockets... I'm even running underground trunking under the patio for the SWA...
Excellent work guys
What an awesome job John! Well done team Artisan! Had me worried Jordan when you said the whole team was there, and no Cory or Reuben! lol
Most of the team* 😅
Such a well done job!!
It is nice to see how so many different boards are all combined into that one large board, while doing it in such a clean way!
Would be nice to see many more 2+ rail boards installed, since they seem to provide so much more room to work in!
What is the price difference between a 1-rail and a 2 or 3 rail board actually?
Keep the good work up, love to see your content!!!
Awesome job... Looks 1st class!!
Thanks Mark
Luke came back with the van 2 days later.
I told you lee not to let him have ago in it.😁nice job lads👍
That metal double-DIN board is very nice. The job looks like a million dollars. Love the idea of the joint box - it encorporated everything very nicely. I always prefer to have the board in the HMI-zone - so it's comfortable to work on, but also comfortable for the consumer to control.
9:50 - Wow I am surprised that didn't burn the house down! 😳🔥🔥
11:24 - Just Eat bike with Deliveroo bag 😂😀
New board look very neat and tidy! Good job 👍👌
What a great team,all master love you videos.
I saw the DNO note on bakelite fuse enclosures when it was published and the videos filmed by SPEN are very scary in terms of the sitting voltage on the enclosure itself. First time I've seen evidence of it on a fuse carrier. Good spot.
Nice job💪👍
I've been using the ck cable strippers for years. Great tool
Nice job 😎
I have had a set of those CK strippers for years. The biggest issue for me has been that when I have been stripping the inner cores on T&E the small off cuts of the insulation get stuck in the jaws causing them to fail to strip next time you use them. First world problem, but really annoying.
For the earth connections in the JB you have special yellow/black terminals that don't link up to the din rail
14:07 NOICE
So much different than what we do in the United States but none the less looks amazing.
Quick question, vwhat sre you using for your grommet strip?
Great work John
Thanks 👍
So you always do an EICR-level check first, but you do it on the day of the board change? How do you know what parts to bring with you? Which RCBOs and how many? Doesn't it make sense for one person to do an EICR a few days before, then order everything and plan the job (eg do you need to chase/fish/replace cables, lift boards, use a box to extend near CU, etc)?
I hope John left his signature and date somewhere in that CU, a great piece of work, all works of art should be signed.
John is good at what he does.
OK so since John used to work for the DNO, he is best placed to answer this maybe - who pulled the cutout fuse? We all do it, but what are the proper rules? Everyone seems to think something different. I have been told by electricians that training centres that it is illegal for us to touch it. but every electrician I have ever spoken to on the subject just pulls them anyway. Does anyone actually call the DNO to do it? Can you explain? Have you ever been in trouble due to it? Very nice job by the way.
I work for a DNO myself and legally electricians are are not allowed to pull the main cut out fuse. The DNO should be called out and it is a chargeable call. However we know electricians do it and in a lot of cases turn a blind eye because its also a bit ridiculous to have to pay us to do something so simple. Sometimes we get called when smart meters ping in that someones power is off and we turn up while the electrician is there. I usually just explain the scenario and give a verbal slap on the wrist. I have heard in other areas other DNOs can be a little less forgiving however.
@@tiggerthegreeb thanks for your reply. I might give my dno a call next time I have a board change booked and see if they'll come out. The answer to this really is to install an isolator before the board from the meter. I know this would involve an initial call out but would solve the problem after that.
Its rather ridiculous when you think about it. Can you turn off the mains water? Yes. Can you turn off the mains gas? Yes. Can you turn off the mains power ? no ...... We all pull them, if the DNO has an issue, they can take me to court. If they would be less lazy and fit isolators this would not be an issue at all, THEY created the issue to save money...Fit a £20 isolator? Hell no, Get them to pay callout charges to pull a fuse? Hell yes!!
@@Thegardener87 Yeh 100% agree. I guess the only issue as you say there is it needs a call at at the time of installation etc as beyond the meter the DNO are legally not allowed to alter wiring etc being strict to the law. It's a daft scenario really where customers and electricians would really like a double pole switch between the meter and consumer unit but we aren't technically allowed to do it ourselves under normal circumstances. If I do attend a customers property and find wiring that I deem a safety concern (for example I've seen faulty KMF switchs between meter and consumer unit and even reverse polarity from the meter into the house) we would fit one and leave it off so a spark can come and do work after we have attended. But o. The whole it's a silly situation I must agree.
@@tiggerthegreeb yes people don't realize that smart meters have a feature called "dying gasp" where a charged supercap inside them allows them just enough energy to send a burst of telemetry that power has been lost.
I think most electricians would argue that in order to do their job and change a board, they need an effective means of isolation - and rule or no rule - until there's isolators fitted - this means pulling the fuse. I don't think any electrician should work live just because they might upset the DNO.
I have zero issue breaking any nonsensical rules if it means I come home from work safely.
The only reason I have a cable stripper.....is for downlights, saves so much time....everything else is good ol' cable cutters, nice board change. Haven't done a double stack in a domestic in years.....rarely need them
What’s the grommet strip you guys use? Also when are we having a tour of Lee’s van, or have I missed that?
whats the name of the unilite jordan is using at the start, cheers
Nice good working
How many ways was it in the end? Is it just one supply in?
I’ve just done a 22way and quite a lot of load on a 100amp main switch 25mm tails no?
I like your work
Just love it
Definitely an improvement. I personally wouldn't of brought that swa through the trunking should of just dropped it to the left
Damn, 16 minutes in, and then Jordan has to drop the "epic" bomb! Then once he drops one, theres another shortly after!
Fantastic board change, really liking John, great explanations.
It's like an addiction 😵
@@artisanelectrics Once you pop an epic, you just cant stop! Oh wait.... I think Pringles have that trademarked 😎
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Lovely job my property could do with a new fuse board got an old plastic one works tho
Did you contact the DNO about the dodgy looking mains cutout? Wondering what they said about ;
1. You pulling it to notice the fault.
2. Comments on the actual fault?
Funny thing I'm getting this video recommended, I just pulled out kettle lead made of chinesium that was basically burning.
RUclips Knows 👀
Nice on geeza
Why didn't you use the earth din rail connectors would it not give added protection?
Cory prolly doing a board change in one of the Pringles distribution warehouses. I could imagine he's been distracted 😜. Here's me wondering how many Pringles ine has to eat to get a sponsorship. In association with Pringles should be printed on the side of the van he drives 🤣.
Excellent work Team Artisan and John's definitely a credit to your team Jordan 👍.
John top notch fair play
With the adaptable box, and the trunking going up and round, you've had to put the SWA through. Couldn't you have a. terminated SWA into a small box where it enters the room, and moved the vertical trunking to the right (as it's not flush to side wall anyway) or b. brought trunking out to the side of new box and round to new CU? Why go up and round? the SWA looks bad.
I use the Stanley FAT MAX AUTO STRIPPERS works for me
What brand of screwdrivers is John using?
15:40 how about you show a „tail change“, meaning show how you are upgrading tails from the main fuse via the meter to the new fuse board…
Did you find when you torque the busbar that the rcbos twist and end up wonky recently had this on a double stack fusebox board and really annoyed me ?
I found you have to hold them to counter the force
I'm just curious where do you buy those pants from?
Do you cover manchester?
Shure it's not your problem but that meter and main fuse looks like it's in a perfect kicking hight. Or some one might put some stuff on top of it or leaning on it.
Is there an issue doing through crimps compared to an adapt box
Shouldn’t use crimps on solid conductors as it can damage them and reduce the CSA of the cable
What was up with that burnt cable? Would you investigate other lights for the same?
The lights wer Not fire rated . The cable was in contact with the top of light . Happens all the time that’s why u need fire rates downlighting now
Link for the C.K. wire stripers please Jordan !.
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What's the issue with connecting all the grounds together in the extension box? Aren't they all gpoing to connect to the same terminal in the consumer unit anyway? The ground isn't supposed to lead any power unless during an earth fault which will switch off everything anyway? Might be different here in Sweden where we don't have loops and run cables to be able to take the A that there will be in the circuit.
You can't test the R1+R2 (Continuity) for an individual circuit if the CPC (Earth/"Ground") is connected to all the other circuits' CPCs...
Why do you want the ground wires separated on that DIN rail? Like why didn't you use the ground blocks?
You can't test the R1+R2 (Continuity) for an individual circuit if the CPC (Earth/"Ground") is connected to all the other circuits' CPCs...
I can just hear the conversation with the DNO now.
Jordan: I want to report that a main cutout is overheating.
DNO: Did you pull it?
Jordan: Er. No. It was one of the other guys, erm, Nick Bundy.
DNO: Nick Bundy?
Jordan: Yes. I tried to stop him, but he was just too strong. He beat Corey in an arm wrestle, you know.
I wouldn't have known by the comments that Mr Pringle is on yet another holiday, must be the royalties from his music? 😆😆😆
I eat that size consumer unit for breakfast. Installed an Utu Bulldog 3836V last week
What did you quote for this job?
Some times a loose connection on the main fuse carrier stalks between the fuse and carrier stalk screws that create the connection to the fuse arch and over time burn out hence why the carrier stalks are burnt
You can tell if the main fuse is overloaded just by touching the fuse carrier with your hand if it’s really hot you know you got a problem.
Also incoming service cable could be undersized for fuse rating for current carrying capacity which again would over load the fuse causing it to blow.
007 which is 4m can only be fused at 40amps max
.0145 pilc service cable’s which is 10mm cores either copper or alley cores can only be fused at 60amps max
.0225 pilc single phase, split phase, three phase if it’s copper cores or tinted copper cores can be fused at 100amps, if it’s alley cores can only be fused at 60amps.
.04 which is 25mm pilc copper cables 100amps alley cores 100amps
.06 pilc service cables 35mm either copper or alley cores 100amps.
25mm plastic wave form or 25mm hybrid plastic 80amps
16mm split concentric copper 100amps
25mm split copper 100amps
25mm hybrid split alley 80amps
35mm hybrid split or 35mm split concentric 100amps.
Are those insulated work boots btw?
Yeah theres a link in the description where you can get some from
What make are your boots and where from please.
Big Boots 🥾 Link in the description for 5% off
I’m guessing that the screwdriver was ment to go in the rubbish bag with the old Down lights etc
why are you 5 electricans at one house, just curios, keep up the good work, nice video
Why didn't they want the earths to be bonded together on the din rail?
I know earths are bonded together on din rails in control panels. Just i'm just wondering what is different in the house installations.
Might make things a bit more difficult in some fault finding situations.
Testing each circuit becomes a problem as all the CPCs are connected.
9:55 hows that even possible?
what work trousers do you all wear?
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@@artisanelectrics never heard of them before. Price just scared the hell out of me XD
@@InsidiousSly I use ORN 2800 Merlin trousers.
Hello artisans, how can I get myself pants like yours I'm an artisan electrician from South Africa 🇿🇦.
I like the fact that they accomodate hand tools so well.
Please share a link if it's possible for me to buy them from this side of the world.
Thanks guys👍
11:36 throwing a screw driver away?
I hope you explain why those burnt bits are burnt, hate cliffhangers 🤣
Lol
🥹
Surely you want all the earths and the DIN rail tied together.
John is The Don
@11.36 threw a screwdriver away lads
Got the whole team here - wheres cory and reuben or arnt they part of the team anymore
I love to know if he’s still part of the team he’s put a picture on Snapchat but hasn’t come out and mentioned anything
prob off doing other jobs with cory
Has cory left
If you watched the video at 12:30 you'll have heard Lee say Luke will pop off to help Cory. And Jordan says in the comments he's off on holidays
As the American”s would say Great Job.
As a learner I'm still not getting the situation with pulling the main fuse. Did Artisan get DNO approval for pulling the main fuse here? I get some people telling me it's illegal and you face a fine for doing so, and other people saying it's fine and that you have to pull the main fuse to not violate the EAWR (live working), and it's not practical to get a DNO appt for all your jobs.
Can anyone simply answer this for me? Obviously external isolators are ideal but they are often not present.
Cory must have left ye our favourite 😂
Just wondering… why is it regs for metal clad board, but other enclosures are ok to be plastic!? Not a criticism as I know metal Din Jbox enclosures are harder to find.