Dr. Carr, Professor Hunter, thanks for Ep.186! I appreciate the clip you shared of Hollis Watkins, "Stand up for right even if you are the only one standing up". Your perspective on the question was spot on, "making it plain" kudos.
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Thank you again Professor Hunter and Dr. Carr!!! This was another "food for thought" for me. I am DEFINITELY going to watch the Black Writers Conference. Please keep speaking, keep teaching, and KEEP FEEDING US (even though some people may have weak stomachs, LOL)!
I just want to say thank you for these episodes. As a native of the Northwest, we did not learn about the many ancestors who contributed to our history. It is actually heartbreaking to know that there were so many inventors, teachers, creators, etc, that paved the way. I only know of the trauma that we as a people sustained, and although it angers me, I also would like to rejoice and celebrate those who made a mark in this world and brought forth their intellect. Keep doing what you're doing! ❤
Another one. These are such power infused discussions every Saturday. It's like waking up on Saturday morning to watch kung-fu movies back in the day. U 2 R BRILLIANT. THANK U 4 UR LIGHT. MY VISION BECOMES EVER MORE CLEAR AS I AM GRACED WITH UR COMBINED WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE. ❤
The conversations at Howard's MSRC (Moorland Spingarn Research Ctr) Black Writers Festival were intellectually stimulating. While not the answers to many questions, I do appreciate them as an entry point for the Knubian conversations which are, in my opinion, transcendent in nature and scope. Shout out to Dr Talton and his staff, and contributors such as Dr Carr and many others.
Professor Hunter years ago while teaching for a community College, i had my students do their own eulogy for Speech. How they saw themselves in the future. I looked at writing and creativity. They expressed to me that it made them look at their futures seriously to really imagine what they can become, and what they can strive toward. The students loved the assignment! Even with your discussion today, what would it be like w/o WP!? Using the imagination is powerful thing, and like my students we can imagine a life beyond what is given by this system and see a life well lived w/o WP and Free to just Live a life imagined!!! Thank you and Dr. Carr🎉 Love it!
I appreciate this Space. It has been my Mental and Governess Healing. I LOOK at So many things through a New Lense . THANKS Proff K and Dr. C.. You Guys are Saving Folks in ways you may Never know how many🎁🎁🙏🏾🙏🏾😁🌹💞💞💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾👑👑👑👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
12:48 The reason is that the history (narrative) is connected to our self-identity. We must have one and it can be painful and a lot of work to teardown and rebuild your self-identity. It can pain you and strain your whole network of relationships, as someone who lived as a Christian for 13 yrs and is no longer. So any new information can be a threat to what I "know" abt myself. This is why ppl can be extremely protective over the narrative and the facts that are allowed to exist within it.
Thank you both so much for the rich history that you share with us from Saturday to Saturday. If I can't be with you all on Saturday morning I always get back before the weekend is over. Much appreciated . I share often hoping others I know will see the importance of what you both do. ( Kwasi) N.C.
Here! Right here! YOU 2 ARE TOO MUCH! Just the other day, I was wondering if anyone had made a movie about this very subject. "I don't know why people want to hold on to wrong" and "...construct that never goes away." Both = Proverbs 22:6 I'm so glad you 2 are our double dose of blessings. GOD bless. Thanks!
This was one of my favorite classes ever! The conversation about the question posed was extremely important, relevant, and thought provoking. I learned alot today and I can envision US as a people in governance without their interference living in harmony.
41:28 This great Memoir From Elder Hollis Watkins Muhammad...Should be read Along beside the Autobiography of Malcolm x.....Why? Because Our Ancestor chronicles the Prolonged Process of Organizing to make life better for our People...the Mentality, Resilience and Comittment of a Man and his Wife is laid out in detail, so that there is Clear illustration that our Black Leaders should be known for more than Powerful Oratory Skills....
That was a word, Dr. Carr, "Black people done carried all the burden!!" And, Pro. Hunter added the icing on the proverbial cake when she said, "Why don't you make America 'palatable' so we ALL can exist here?" That right there was the question of all time, Prof. Hunter!!👊🏽 This ICWC Episode 186 was chock-full of history and wisdom nuggets!!! Thank you!!🙏🏾🖤💯
Today is Truth and Reconciliation Day here in Canada, and yes, the right word to use is that the Europeans were invaders and not settlers. The atrocious things performed boggles the mind!
YES!!!! "...imagine a world without whiteness" from that place and space in consciousness take a new action. This idea is liberating if we are willing to transform our minds, hearta, and spirit. Reimagine a new way of being and move forward creating it, today! 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾
Great conversation. We should take our fear and build. We would not need venture capitalist to support our needs if we ALL gave a little more to the substantiative issues that matter in Black communities across the country if not the world.
Thanks for all that you do. It's a population that cares but unfortunately it's a greater population that are lost, follows participate and comply. As a result you see the mixing trend today. Respect
Great conversation Dr. Hunter and Dr. Carr. I believe you two may be able to do what Fred Hampton was doing and actually achieving; with this platform, before he was assassinated by this country's "colonializers".
Put another way . White as a Racial Classification = Ability to practice Racism White Supremacy . No other reason to be White. Black as a Racial Classification or Non-White = Victim of Racism White Supremacy. Excellent discussion. Listening to these programs is always a constructive exercise.
I immediately thought of Francis Cress Welsing and Nelly Fuller. If people can't answer the question of a world without whiteness they don't understand why racism is
Re-member that 2500 years of peace we had so that we could become gods and Kemet became the megaphone for Africa? That's the imagining I have going on in a world without whiteness.
That's the big question that what the whole kit an kabuddle rest on ,the 100,000,000 dollar question, it will be life every day style just with out the unnecessary pressure of WS. It's not necessarily needed for stability when you have justice for all.
I don't think prof has all the background on what really happened with Coach Prime at Jackson State. Also, I don't think he knows how much Coach Prime is putting on for the HBCUs still.
Like Ds seek permission ("precedent") from Rs, Blacks seek permission from Whites. Columbia, MD was established as a place where Blacks wouldn't have to defer to Whites.
Hey with all due respect you see the help there getting , it's all about helping us fba's. We have to concentrat on us and us only , our kids are in the streets there's no more space for humanity for others whom is not on code with us, damit, this is code red for the black community all hands on deck, no bull.
Democracy replaces Race, like Wisdom of the People should replace Majority Rule. AL and LA should redraw their congressional boundaries because democracy, liberty and justice for all, requires it--not because of a synthetic construction called "race"
8:50 Yes, it is possible because it does not exist in the first place, it is a big fat lie. To imagine is to confirm it existed in the first place, and there you give it validity and your Power, your consciousness to exist in the first place. Pretty very simple and not rocket science 😮
@25:55 it’s a lot wrong with what’s being said. Only a small number of black people were “thriving” or well off. The overwhelming majority of black were “surviving” meaning poor and struggling.
Sankofa is BS. We must return to the Ways of the Ancestors. Truth everv is; untruth never was. It it's true, it's not new. If it's new it's not true. Progress? How can you improve perfection?
If we are talking about "racism", then we are not talking about an ambush. Why isn't the only conversation we're having about competing? Anything outside of planning an economic ambush is futile... Stop complaining about race, you can't force anyone to change how they think. The only thing you can do is BUILD, BUILD, BUILD!
These two highly intelligent people are wasting their valuable time attempting to make sense of race or racism. Talk about the strategy for winning. How do we build our own system? Not a system that defeats white supremacy. A system that creates a thriving life for our people. The only thing that can beat a system is a better, more efficient system. Less complaining, more strategizing...
Power Peace and Blessings to babbs Carr. Thank you for being,🙏🏿💪🏿💜
Thank you for bringing my uncle Hollis Watkins to light. He's always been the light of our lives.
Dr. Carr, Professor Hunter, thanks for Ep.186! I appreciate the clip you shared of Hollis Watkins, "Stand up for right even if you are the only one standing up". Your perspective on the question was spot on, "making it plain" kudos.
This conversation is excellent and so much needed!
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Thank you again Professor Hunter and Dr. Carr!!! This was another "food for thought" for me. I am DEFINITELY going to watch the Black Writers Conference. Please keep speaking, keep teaching, and KEEP FEEDING US (even though some people may have weak stomachs, LOL)!
I just want to say thank you for these episodes. As a native of the Northwest, we did not learn about the many ancestors who contributed to our history. It is actually heartbreaking to know that there were so many inventors, teachers, creators, etc, that paved the way. I only know of the trauma that we as a people sustained, and although it angers me, I also would like to rejoice and celebrate those who made a mark in this world and brought forth their intellect. Keep doing what you're doing! ❤
Another one. These are such power infused discussions every Saturday. It's like waking up on Saturday morning to watch kung-fu movies back in the day. U 2 R BRILLIANT. THANK U 4 UR LIGHT. MY VISION BECOMES EVER MORE CLEAR AS I AM GRACED WITH UR COMBINED WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE. ❤
Thanks for listening!
Sorry, I can't not listen and learn. Thank you.
The conversations at Howard's MSRC (Moorland Spingarn Research Ctr) Black Writers Festival were intellectually stimulating. While not the answers to many questions, I do appreciate them as an entry point for the Knubian conversations which are, in my opinion, transcendent in nature and scope. Shout out to Dr Talton and his staff, and contributors such as Dr Carr and many others.
As Dr. Rashad Richey says " Iron sharpens Iron ". Love the work you BOTH do! 🇯🇲🇯🇲✊✊
Professor Hunter years ago while teaching for a community College, i had my students do their own eulogy for Speech. How they saw themselves in the future. I looked at writing and creativity. They expressed to me that it made them look at their futures seriously to really imagine what they can become, and what they can strive toward. The students loved the assignment! Even with your discussion today, what would it be like w/o WP!? Using the imagination is powerful thing, and like my students we can imagine a life beyond what is given by this system and see a life well lived w/o WP and Free to just Live a life imagined!!! Thank you and Dr. Carr🎉 Love it!
It's gonna be hard..and slow. And there's the crux of it. ✊🏽
I appreciate this Space. It has been my Mental and Governess Healing. I LOOK at So many things through a New Lense . THANKS Proff K and Dr. C.. You Guys are Saving Folks in ways you may Never know how many🎁🎁🙏🏾🙏🏾😁🌹💞💞💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾👑👑👑👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Ken Burns' plantation! Damn, Dr Carr! Enough fire upon Rome!
He brings the smoke 😊
Thank you Prof. Hunter and Dr. Carr.
Good Afternoon Dynamic Duo✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾💜. Thanks as usual for Good Caffeine the Saturday Blessing are unconfounded. Blessing Sis, Blessings Dr CARR
Nourishment thank you professor Hunter and Dr Carr 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💙💜💙💜💜 God bless you both keep doing this building nourishing us .✊🏾✊🏾
No doubt. Thank you!
❤Hollis Watkins
Thank you professor Hunter and Dr Carr for this wonderful presentation. One more ancestor that I can love, respect and honor.
Thank you all for another great show and I pray for many more ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️!!!!
"The live to fight another day mindset is the reason why we can't progress!!!"
🗣THAT'S A WORD!!!!! That's Good!
Thank you for introducing us to Hollis Watkins Muhammad. I hadn’t heard of this magnificent man.
You're welcome!
Another Fantastic Podcast.
Thank you!
Watching the replay on YT 🙌🏾
12:48 The reason is that the history (narrative) is connected to our self-identity. We must have one and it can be painful and a lot of work to teardown and rebuild your self-identity. It can pain you and strain your whole network of relationships, as someone who lived as a Christian for 13 yrs and is no longer. So any new information can be a threat to what I "know" abt myself. This is why ppl can be extremely protective over the narrative and the facts that are allowed to exist within it.
young00seek
PREACH! Another reply noted: The truth as we know it is always subject to revision at any given time! ASE
Thank you both so much for the rich history that you share with us from Saturday to Saturday. If I can't be with you all on Saturday morning I always get back before the weekend is over. Much appreciated . I share often hoping others I know will see the importance of what you both do. ( Kwasi) N.C.
Here! Right here!
YOU 2 ARE TOO MUCH!
Just the other day, I was wondering if anyone had made a movie about this very subject.
"I don't know why people want to hold on to wrong" and "...construct that never goes away."
Both = Proverbs 22:6
I'm so glad you 2 are our double dose of blessings. GOD bless. Thanks!
Thank you for bringing Hollis Watkins Muhammad to the forefront.
Live from the Baba Carr library
This was one of my favorite classes ever! The conversation about the question posed was extremely important, relevant, and thought provoking. I learned alot today and I can envision US as a people in governance without their interference living in harmony.
Thank you for this conversation, my thoughts and anxiety stems so much from this topic
Thank you for speaking to our souls.
41:28
This great Memoir From Elder Hollis Watkins Muhammad...Should be read Along beside the Autobiography of Malcolm x.....Why? Because Our Ancestor chronicles the Prolonged Process of Organizing to make life better for our People...the Mentality, Resilience and Comittment of a Man and his Wife is laid out in detail, so that there is Clear illustration that our Black Leaders should be known for more than Powerful Oratory Skills....
I have the Hattie McDaniel book. Her house was right across the street from First AME church in LA.
Listening again.
Same
Great episode ❤. Thank You!
Our pleasure!
That was a word, Dr. Carr, "Black people done carried all the burden!!"
And, Pro. Hunter added the icing on the proverbial cake when she said,
"Why don't you make America 'palatable' so we ALL can exist here?"
That right there was the question of all time, Prof. Hunter!!👊🏽
This ICWC Episode 186 was chock-full of history and wisdom nuggets!!!
Thank you!!🙏🏾🖤💯
Can someone please share the link to the “Why We Gather” conference at Howard that Dr. Carr was talking about?
Good morning all, that gentleman, Hollis Watkins, was an angel of mercy!
Today is Truth and Reconciliation Day here in Canada, and yes, the right word to use is that the Europeans were invaders and not settlers.
The atrocious things performed boggles the mind!
Until you study history and discover the uninterrupted string of violence and genocide marking all of human history.
Good afternoon! Luv y'all! ❤❤
❤❤
YES!!!! "...imagine a world without whiteness" from that place and space in consciousness take a new action. This idea is liberating if we are willing to transform our minds, hearta, and spirit. Reimagine a new way of being and move forward creating it, today! 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾
The crazy part is that the fiat currency system "they" created is what's keeping they entire unholy construct alive.
I love burning 🔥 of the fears
Great conversation. We should take our fear and build. We would not need venture capitalist to support our needs if we ALL gave a little more to the substantiative issues that matter in Black communities across the country if not the world.
Thanks for all that you do. It's a population that cares but unfortunately it's a greater population that are lost, follows participate and comply. As a result you see the mixing trend today. Respect
This build is a classic 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Recovering memory 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Rest gently Dr. David Imhotep author of “The First Americans were Afrikan”
Great conversation Dr. Hunter and Dr. Carr. I believe you two may be able to do what Fred Hampton was doing and actually achieving; with this platform, before he was assassinated by this country's "colonializers".
My voicemail is a snippet of Dr. Umar Johnson going in. My business partners hate leaving voicemails on my phone. Do I care? No.
Put another way . White as a Racial Classification = Ability to practice Racism White Supremacy . No other reason to be White. Black as a Racial Classification or Non-White = Victim of Racism White Supremacy. Excellent discussion. Listening to these programs is always a constructive exercise.
⭐🔥❤❤🔥⭐
I immediately thought of Francis Cress Welsing and Nelly Fuller. If people can't answer the question of a world without whiteness they don't understand why racism is
Dr. Kress-Welsing changed my life.
Always here for the kmowledge, the hsitory, the petty and the shade ....
Does anyone have the link the Dr referred to?
Thank Ya'll ❣️Always You 2 Share! One I've also noticed, Not One Mentioned that Migration People Being Vaccinated...??
Black means original people of the earth
They hold on to wrong because this entire system, which we also support, is wrong !
The system is rigged!
Re-member that 2500 years of peace we had so that we could become gods and Kemet became the megaphone for Africa? That's the imagining I have going on in a world without whiteness.
Good Morning beautiful 🌎
The truth as we know it is always subject to revision at any given time.
Which displays more dignity, Hattie McDaniel playing a maid or any episode of Love and Hip Hop? Give me the maid.
White Stupremacy/Stuperiority
Great explanation for Knarrative, Dr. Carr... Or when they do create the system, they are bought out (hair products, for example)
Right
Good everything family. I’m back like I left something.
It’s considered an entitlement over us
Love you both
That's the big question that what the whole kit an kabuddle rest on ,the 100,000,000 dollar question, it will be life every day style just with out the unnecessary pressure of WS. It's not necessarily needed for stability when you have justice for all.
I don't think prof has all the background on what really happened with Coach Prime at Jackson State. Also, I don't think he knows how much Coach Prime is putting on for the HBCUs still.
Good morning
To be White is a safe Place!
To have an emotional connection to the American Dream.
No one Has To Do ANYTHING unless they want to.
Like Ds seek permission ("precedent") from Rs, Blacks seek permission from Whites. Columbia, MD was established as a place where Blacks wouldn't have to defer to Whites.
❤ amen
Hey with all due respect you see the help there getting , it's all about helping us fba's. We have to concentrat on us and us only , our kids are in the streets there's no more space for humanity for others whom is not on code with us, damit, this is code red for the black community all hands on deck, no bull.
This rhetoric is dead on the vine, been discussed "why" here frequently, and within the Africana framework. Expand your awareness.
Democracy replaces Race, like Wisdom of the People should replace Majority Rule. AL and LA should redraw their congressional boundaries because democracy, liberty and justice for all, requires it--not because of a synthetic construction called "race"
1.2 k views 2nd less than a 1/3 likes? Come on
Live to fight another day logic....
❤️🖤💚
Is your product on the field.
8:50 Yes, it is possible because it does not exist in the first place, it is a big fat lie. To imagine is to confirm it existed in the first place, and there you give it validity and your Power, your consciousness to exist in the first place. Pretty very simple and not rocket science 😮
@25:55 it’s a lot wrong with what’s being said. Only a small number of black people were “thriving” or well off. The overwhelming majority of black were “surviving” meaning poor and struggling.
BRICKS
I disagree with the first two minutes of his speech.
what exactly? and why?
Sankofa is BS. We must return to the Ways of the Ancestors. Truth everv is; untruth never was. It it's true, it's not new. If it's new it's not true. Progress? How can you improve perfection?
What is perfection in this instance? If we don't get to it, do we forfeit our access to freedoem? If not Sankofa, what is the alternative?
If we are talking about "racism", then we are not talking about an ambush. Why isn't the only conversation we're having about competing? Anything outside of planning an economic ambush is futile... Stop complaining about race, you can't force anyone to change how they think. The only thing you can do is BUILD, BUILD, BUILD!
...that's what we're doing while talking about it and leaving history breadcrumbs for those not quite ready to do so.
These two highly intelligent people are wasting their valuable time attempting to make sense of race or racism. Talk about the strategy for winning. How do we build our own system? Not a system that defeats white supremacy. A system that creates a thriving life for our people. The only thing that can beat a system is a better, more efficient system. Less complaining, more strategizing...
Babe tern your video up
"I don't know why people want to hold onto wrong". 🙅🏾♀️Preach & Teach, Professor. 🤎