The TRUTH of WD40 vs MONO Fishing Line!
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2017
- This experiment is about WD40 vs how it reacts with Monofilament fishing line. Does WD40 break down Mono Fishing line? I wanted to know if WD40 would do anything to alter mono fishing line. So I did this experiment !
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I have a master's degree in chemistry from Texas A&M and must tell you that the composition in the balloons is completely different than monofilament fishing line. The rubber in balloons will easily breakdown but not so with monofilament which is a polymer and much stronger. This is why you never spray wd-40 on rubber gasket. My dad showed me how to use it on reels when I was a kid and I'm 61. Support your experiment nicely done!
Wesley Hackney my grandpa showed me the same thing eons ago. I still use it💪
rubber in balloons - same as a rubber gasket?
Electro-Mechanical Engineer here. Hackney is spot on.
"Rubber" Balloons could be rubber, or nylon or latex, or some hydrocarbon synthetic., etc, so called "Rubber Gaskets" can be a myriad of materials too, and not Natural Gum rubber at all unless specified..
Wesley Hackney for rubber seals use silicone gel
Wow, Amazing results. I'd love to see a more control version but this is awesome for a first test. You could maybe hang two strands with the Iron hanging freely. Soak one strand everyday and use 10 lbs of weight until it breaks. Maybe hang them inside the garage as well, since the sun-light will break down the mono.
Jack, I like you have always sprayed my gear with WD-40 and have NEVER and I repeat NEVER had an issue! I will continue to do so! Great video!
best reason I can give for not using anything like wd-40 on or near fishing line is due to it being scented / an attractant or sorts.
Aggressive fish like Tailor aka Bluefish with there super sharp little teeth will snip right through your line at the best of times let alone with a little bit of scent on it.
Same with leatherjackets if i touch my line after baiting my hook they pretty much always attack and snip my line well about the hook the cheeky mongrels.
AUSSIE1PRIDE wd40 some say the scent attracts fish. An old man told me that's because wd40 is actually made with fish oil... Now I haven't done any research on the ingredients to see if there is any truth to this, but I do know that if ya spray a piece of hotdog with wd40, you'll catch more catfish than you would without it... Lol
Ja Son, Despite popular belief, there is no fish oil in WD40. I know it definitely seems to attract fish as I had 2 rods fishing in the same spot & the rod that I had cleaned with wd40 & sprayed on the line when cleaning the spool kept getting the line bitten off way above the hook where as the untainted line next to it didn't have that problem.
I also just checked out the Ecotoxicity report &
WD40 has been classified as harmful to the aquatic environment with long lasting effects based on the components.
For example: "Naphtha (petroleum), hydrodesulfurized heavy (the main ingredient in WD40): 96 hr LC50 Fathead minnow - 8.2 mg/L; 96 hr
LC50 Crangon Crangon - 4.3 mg/L
Xylene, Mixed Isomers: 96 hr LC50 Rainbow trout - 13.5 mg/L"
(96 hr LC50 (50% lethal concentration) means the concentration of a chemical in air or of a chemical in water which causes the death of 50% (one half) of a group of test animals after exposure for 96 hours)
Our waters are already polluted enough we don't need to be adding anymore to it.
So I wouldn't be using WD40 as a fish attractant I have actually never used any scents or attractants for the purpose of catching more fish my motto is always fresh fresh fresh bait.
AUSSIE1PRIDE I rarely fish with live bait.. Only when ice fishing I'll use live shiners or minnows... Sometimes when saltwater fishing I'll use a live spot or crab.. I love using lures to catch my fish
Id love to try ice fishing one day it looks awesome, im a fairly lazy fisherman haha, I prefer catching poddy mullet and use them for live baits, cast out sit back and wait for the sound of the drag screaming, I do fish with lures sometimes but the constant standing, casting and moving around tweaks my back & I am only able to do it for short periods like 30 mins at a time.
Tight lines mate.
Been using 100% silicone spray for years to spray my line and reel before I go fishing. Big can costs about 2 bucks from Wal Fart, and I think it works just as good as Reel Majik, and a heck of a lot cheaper!!!
good stuff..... someone had to finally do this video
Awesome video👌🏼
Another suggestion: Try hanging WD40 treated like you set up for a week vs Non treated mono line hung as a control. May cause the WD 40 mono to stretch or break over time?
Cool video! I love it! I won''t use it because of the scent trail it might leave. I don't even let my bait fish touch the ice. I put them in no-scented bags. I don't use soap in my cooler either. But I will say this, WD 40 WIll break down some elements. It is very aggressive at times but I believe in your experiment. The question I want to ask is, "is it worth putting into the mix for scent and potential line deterioration. Emphasis on the scent factor. I like EVERYTHING clean and not tainted. Again, great video. NOW you need to try this. Soak some WD-40 into some fishing line. Use the same rigs and same bait. Throw both lines in the water right next to each other. See if you can find a result showing that WD-40's scent helps or hurts the bites.
First Amendment 32 wd40 is made of fish oil.
Would have loved if you did the same exercise with the untreated line to see if there's any difference
needed a dry test of the 12 lb line
BAM WD40 Rocks ! do a garden video
I have a masters degree in WD-40, and I say to use Rem oil on your reels in between regular maintenance instead. Much better than WD-40, it's actually light oil and Teflon.
Basically what I use as when done fishing bring out guns for hunting clean both at same time
@@kokadjooutdoors620 I prefer M-Pro 7 oil for my firearms. Better than Rem oil for firearms.
@@j.t.cooper2963 will check it out thanks
3 in 1 oil😊
Love the intro!
Enjoyed the video. Just subscribed to the channel. Found my way here from Arms Family Homestead recommendation.
I have one question. How does the 12 lb untreated line do compared to the WD40 coated line? Does the untreated break the same? I guess use a digital pound scale and pull it. Just a thought.
Do a wd40 versus braid that would be cool
When I was a kid we use to use WD40 to spray our grub tail jogs with to catch calico bass with in the San Diego bay. Something about it made them hit it more often. Some years later I saw guys doing this in Lake Mead with their plastic worm baits. Never seen or heard it done since. I personally would not do it now that I'm an adult and a bit more environmentally concerned and aware.
Your right carp go mad for wd40 so it's banned here in the uk because it's not safe for fish this guy has got the wrong end of the stick with wd40
I like to use Krazy Glue with my Fireline knots. Can Krazy Glue be problematic with flourocarbon. I like a flourocarbon leader when Muskie fishing and it seems as though it might weaken the leader a little. I re-tie every couple hours so I usually head off any problems.
There probably isn't a spray oil that will break the monofilament plastic. Thanks for the video!
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing
Welcome!
Would like to see what happens doing the same thing with untreated line. Will 12lb line break with same amount of weight and bouncing it like you did with the WD-40 treated line.
Haven't had any issues with WD-40 but prolonged heat, trunk or back of station wagon , will break Mono down and static electricity , hauling in boat on long trip up to Canada ? will also do it in !
Great experiment. I would like to see the comparison to nontreated line. Otherwise 12 lbs of weight is still being held. Another posible test is to hang the weights and see the stretch comp. The more stretch the weaker the line becomes. Your test does tell us it is not turning 12lb into a 6lb strength. Lessens the worry about getting a little on your line.
you should have tested the same weights on a new piece of line while jiggling to see if that movement would break it
You should have showed trying it with unsoaked line.
Now i gotta do it, im curious lol.
Thanks for the video, love from Türkiye
I spray wd40 basically on my whole reel and line,,I've never had any problems of it weakening my line but after awhile it tends to "gum" up the reel and causes it to reel in a little rougher,, especially if the reel gets wet
thanks for taking the time to do the test..but without a control (testing un-treated line)..test is inconclusive mate
hello friend .. I do not know much .. but you want to say that it is good or it is bad to use the WD40.for the braided line or PE? Thanks
Awesome sauce, I mean wd40 I just got an Idea. Thanks bro
Your intro is so much like LunkersTV; camera positioning, vocal inflection and hand movements.
yes!!! very fucking annoying..
Where/how did it break? At the knot? Did the WD-40 loosen the coiling of the Trilene?
broke mid way up!
You need a control (untreated line) for your experiment.
TigerJake2007 nope, 12 pound line held twelve pounds.
Then you are testing if 12 lb big game holds 12 lbs after being soaked in wd40. That's great but you're not testing what you said in the title. Because if you want to test if wd40 makes line weaker, then you would need to compare breaking strength of the line before and after it was soaked in wd40. What if you found that before, the 12 lb big game could actually hold 26 lbs of weight, and after soaking in wd40 it could only hold 13 lbs? Then wd40 cut its strength in half, but you would never know.
He also didn't compare stretch. Should have measured the length of the line before and after putting the weights on.
my thought is ....who cares what the untreated line holds as long as it holds at least 12 pounds. you're buying 12 lb test line....in this video it held 12 lbs....if you want a hire strength line....buy higher. (that statement sounds like im being an ass....but im not trying to be) i guess he could have titled the video "The TRUTH of if WD40 weakens MONO Fishing Line!" but i got what he was talking about.
First of all, 12 pound Trilene is gonna be able to handle quite a bit more than 12 pounds,,,,NUMBNUTS
Nice work good to know also
thanks
Bitsy
What about a control, like fishing line without any WD-40, I noticed some strecth maybe without the spray there would be less strecth.
Superb line berkeley
I use w40 and gun lube on my reels..ive been doing this for years...i hunting guide told me about that..i have spinning reels with braided lines..i sometime use marvel mystery oil..
WD stands for "water displacing" and its main use is as a solvent or rust dissolver. Thelubricant-like properties of WD-40 come notfrom the substance itself, but from dissolving components. And the effect doesn't last. WD-40 can be a good substance to start with - it can help clean up rust or other grime.
I use pure PTFE spray to lube things up. Much better and cleaner!
I don't understand why you use wd 40 for on a fishing line ,do you catch oily fish?
You should try this with line that has been used in the water for a while as monofilament is known to absorb water and WD40 stands for water displacement 40 so It may behave differently.
I use the silicone WD-40 on my reels and no problems. But I take the spool off the reel so not to spray the line. I'm not worried about the line breaking down as much as the wd-40 making the line slick so knots come undone.
I have been fishing for 40 years and I used wd40 on reels and yes it got on the line some no ill effects
I appreciate your effort. You do need to do a control line with no WD. At the end of the day I don't think WD-40 is a good product for lubricating a reel and there is no way that it has absolutely no effect on mono.
Now grab a piece of brand new mono off that spool and do the same thing with the weights. Being able to hold 12 pounds is great, but everyone knows how much fish jerk and snap. I'm curious how brand new line holds the same 12 pounds with a bounce or 2.
A bounce or two with 12 lbs would be more than 12 lbs of force. And fishing line is not rated with a bounce. Tensile strength is a straight pull.
Like darkomen42 states you must finish the experiment with a control group which will be untreated fishing line.
I agree you need a control to base your findings
I love when people think they need a 12lb line to catch a 12lb fish!
Spank MaMonkey then he needs to make that comment. He didn't though, he responded under my comment.
I like Jack and his videos, but if you're going to test how something is effected by an additive then maybe you should show how it performers on its own.
I always just rinse my baitcasters after a days fishing with fresh water. Grease gears once a year and lubricate level wind as needed. WD40 definitely has its place but if you "hose" down your real with it I would think you are washing away grease that the gears need more than damaging the line.
That's not enough if your paddling your stuff through the surf every week.
Loved the video yak😛
thanks!
Would/does this hold true for flourocarbon line? Or do you know?
Sick video dude
Thanks!
Wow $6 for a spool of Berkley mono, shows how much we get ripped of in the UK.
Good info TY hope u git some Rod holders on ur wall hate 2C rods just hanging loose! Goes back 2 my childhood days when they wud gitta set in them fm leaning also always set was wrong way Yikes notta good thing 2 happen LoL
All of this "controversy" traces back to the early 1970's when we data techs started using WD40 as a spray lube on printers, teletypes and Telex machines. Equipment manufacturers at that same period started using polycarbonate blocks to anchor springs instead of more costly cast/machined metal spring anchor points. We started getting a landslide of broken spring anchors. AT&T lab researchers determined the cause was slow (6-12 months) degradation of the polycarbonate reacting to the WD40. Had the affected parts been larger, we might never have had any traceable failures. AT&T was the corporate owner of Chicago Teletype Corp. at the time, so that's how they got involved.
That's pretty cool very interesting
Reel Magic by Blakemore is the best to spray on your reels/ line. The compressed can style works much better than the pump type. The actual break tinsel strength of Berkley big game mono in 12lb. Test (.014 diameter) is between 17 and 18 Lbs… Big Game is known for beefing up there mono lines. Good Fish’n , Rob
I’ve sprayed my rod and reel with WD40 thirty years ago, I’ve always washed them down with my garden hose when I got done fishing. Then maybe three times during the season , spring , summer , and fall I would use WD40 on them .
Wonder if WD40 soaked line leaves a residue that would turn fish off?
a propper experiment needs a control ie- a standard line and a treated line and then increase the Weight gradualy on both until one or the other breaks and continue to incease the weight on the remaining line until that breaks then note the diference
Was it one day of soaking or a week of soaking? :/
Good experiment. Seems fairly reasonable. I think the video, at least, removes some of the argument from the equation.
I've used WD40 as a fish attractant...I'd spray a 2" piece of white cotton wash cloth with it and double the cloth , stick my hook thru it 1 time and send it down... (this was saltwater reef fishing) I caught snapper and grouper ..
I have been using WD40 on my fishing lines & reels for a long time. Never had any breakages. I do not use CRC as that seems to dissolve rubber gaskets. I tie leader to braid with success against hard fighting fish where your knots could be your weakest point. Only trouble I have had when a fishing shop owner tied the knots which I broke by hand increasing tension by hand on braid 10kg. I am 66.WD40 was made for space craft technology but found to have vast uses why it became so popular.A thinned fish oil.
I love the "over-use" of hand gestures.. its great that the def can hear you talk as well.
If I am out of Tangle Free or the other line treatment I'll use WD-40 and I've never had a problem. Actually, if I'm using a topwater plug such as a ChugBug I will spray my line with WD-40 so it floats better.
I’m sorry, I forgot, how long was it soaked for?
Dat's a purty Yeti cooler behind you bro. Must have got for $2 at a yard sale lol
Wouldn’t the smell run the fish away?? It wld have too right?
If you know how to cast then this is already the perfect reel - but if your learning then this one can make it easier. very impressed with Abu Garcia quality
Do the same test picking up the weight an wiggle with clean line. I do bet it will break the same, because your rod takes the dead shock out.
Yeah I just soaked my ole zebco 33 down with wd40 with brand new mustad 15lb line .. Works like brand new..
you'll be surprised how good the seaguard red label is
The wd-40 makes uv penetration more effective, cooking your monofilament line. If you let that line sit in the sun for a couple hours a day there would be a different outcome. There's another hypotheses to test.
My Granddad used to spray it on when he had a bad back...he went downhill fast after that :-)
I subscribed for the sole reason of the ridiculousness of you using a shopping kart to get one spool of line.
lol, that wasn't the only thing I got a walmart.
Most line can actually withstand a lot more then they are rated.. We tested a few brands & one didn't break until double its rated strength.. We used a camera & lip grips with a scale😉👉
I'd still like to see you do the same test with non-soaked line using the same weights and the same techniques.
I learnt to Never trust what the packaging says after breaking a few rods due to the line being stronger then it state and not snapping before my rod.
I found a good site run by a guy named paulus that uses scientific procedures and proper measuring equipment to tests the breaking strain and diameter of braid and mono lines it's a good read check it out.
www.paulusjustfishing.com
I believe the line rating is for knot strength as this is the weakest part of the line. The line is also more forgiving the longer it is.
Line breaking strain & knot strength are 2 different ratings, all though you are right about the knot being the weakest link.
also a lot of lines used today have either no stretch or very low stretch properties.
Monofilament can stretch 20-30% which can act like a shock absorber for the first hit but after that the stretch is counterproductive as you want to be in direct contact with the fish at all times the yo-yoing effect will actually make it easier to break your line.
Thanks for the info mate.
Your also using Dead Weight which fishing line is not designed for.. on a good Rod you can land a 20 lb + fish with that 12lb line if its a good quality line...i like Stren.
The last thing i want is the fish im catching get a good taste of wd40 solvent when im fishing !
Try *OFF* bug spray vs any plastic bait-- Fish spit it faster than you can blink.
...some Lake Trout fishermen in Ontario swear that spaying WD40 on their spoons attracts the fish...
its hard to break down or dissolve nylon
only nitric acid will do it
rubber on the other hand and polystyrene and other plastics can be dissolved by solvents like wd40
What's the advantage of putting WD40 on monofilament line?
Nice good to know
Berkley big game trilene typically has 30 to 40 percent higher break rate than its rated
I'd always use a straight silicone spray (Make sure there are no other chemicals in spray.) since WD-40 had an odor.. But in saltwater nothing was perfect.
THEN.... I was introduced to a lubricant called 386 Nano-tech that was crazy amazing. The guy that owned the company made a bet with me that if I sprayed it on an old junker reel I had inside and out and soaked it in saltwater for as long as I desired, that the reel would never cease up, or rust.
I lost that bet... bought 12 cans. I never needed to rinse gear off after if fresh water was a premium (out on boat for few days for example.)I wish he still made that stuff... best $20 ever spent.
I've seen WD40 used to keep line thawed when ice fishing in the winter.
Did you try a dry line without WD40? To compare.
do the same thing with line not soaked in wd and bounce it then you can declare the bust of the myth if if none soaked line doesn break when you bounce it then maybe the wd does affect the line
Wd stands for water displacement, this stuff was designed for the military.
Well actually you didn't test the original so you got no control on it. But my only concern was does the smell scare fish away. Wd40 actually does destroy and swell rubber. As a trucker I've seen our air line seals pucker and crack from using it. Of course the plastic might be a bit hardier
I think the best test would be spray all of the line really well while it's on the reel. And have another ride with the same exact line. Go fishing with both rods. And keep spraying the reel with the wd-40. Then after a few months do the test. See which line is stronger. That's how people would use it in real life.
Exactly........where’s the control, or real life example, how do you compare it to a standard?
It's banned here in the uk at fisheries as carp go made for wd40 but its not safe
Trying
different lengths of line
Different knots
Different temperatures
Different soak times
Different types of oil
Different methods of saturation
Different soak times with different stresses
Good job Jack, put the myth to rest. Tight lines brother!
the manual of my Shimano reel says to use wd 40 on its moving parts
Nice! Good to see a guy like you shutting up the know it all fisherman...
lol, people get really fired up over this topic lol
This video kinda funny I like it
I have always used WD40 on my bass fishing reels. I never found it to be harmful to my mono. I mean, I am sure the "sponsor crazy" people at the B.A.S.S. tourneys, etc want to sell you a smaller can of wd40 with a label that says "fishing reel oil, won't harm fishing line" for about 4 times as much money. But I learned to spot that sort of nonsense when I was 12 or 13. Of course I'm not going to intentionally SOAK my line in wd40, But I sure as hell will keep using it.
How did the new line react?
What about flouro? Will it hold up to WD40?
One of the best lines on the market use the 15lb here in South Wales on all types of ground clean , mixed and rough even on the boat and no issues at all :)
Thing is you don't want that foreign scent in the water. Just about everything fish scent smells like fish, they notice when something doesn't.
WD-40 is basically kerosene (aliphatic hydrocarbon) and surfactant and yes would not expect it to affect a nylon co-polymer fishing line. Would be careful with other types of penetrating oils that may contain more aggressive solvents (ethers, esters, aromatics etc). My concern is if WD-40 would eventually make the line more brittle and tend to break in tensile via an impact, like a hook set. A very interesting experiment none the less. Thank you for the interesting video.
Thanks!
How many drinks have you had?