“Unfortunately, he told San Diego about his plans to move to Los Angeles. Then Los Angeles didn’t give a shit. Ironic. He could make unite people to hate his team, but not to love it.”
Difference is the Raiders are loved and if they go to LA many of their diehard fans would go plus raiders have a much better history and established base in LA but no they got Las Vegas rip
The belong in Oakland always have always will be Oakland. Al Davis had to throw his temper tantrum and got his wish and moved to Los Angeles the first 4 years were good then after that disaster the Rams out drew him number and percentage wise and trouble getting sponsors and went back to Oakland with his tail between his legs and was to arrogant and prideful to admit he made a mistake. Had he stayed in Oakland he would have won more games and championships. The real raiders fans are the east bay and northern California all the way to Reno Nevada. Las Vegas will be a disaster in a few years even John Madden said to Mark Davis your father would have never approved of this.
So the raiders should just stay in a stadium with increasing rent, terrible field conditions and sewage backups that is also a dual purpose stadium, because in the last two decades they've gotten nowhere in stadium talks with Oakland, not to mention mark davis isnt a billionaire so idk what else the raiders were supposed to do at that point. Basically Oakland wanted to keep the raiders in that disaster forever and keep jacking up the rent to do so, and then play victim when they leave again, I have sympathy for the fans, 0 for the city government.
Hopefully the NFL brings back a new to team that cares about the loyal fans of San Diego soon. I’ve even got an idea for a new team name: The San Diego Armada
XxxFaze_YugxxX The Clippers have surprisingly been there for a while, considering how long they had sucked while being in the same market as the freaking Lakers. I wonder how they hadn’t moved yet.
Awww those poor millionaires playing a game doing what they love! They don’t give a shit about you and you shouldn’t care about some dudes moving cities to play football
Caring for what dude? Like wtf are you so upset about? People are literally starving and dying all over the world and you think I should give a fuck about people moving up the freeway?
steven foxkit that’s a classic illogical argument. Just because someone has it worse doesn’t mean you can’t have relative concern for each situation. You don’t have to demean or diminish someone because another has it worse. I can show full and appropriate concern (and response for someone who is hungry) while showing a relative empathy for someone who is more fortunate.
As a San Diegan this still makes me feel sad. My family, especially my dad were huge fans. I still remember I even got to meet Rivers at a event hosted by my uncle. I still remember how my science teacher had chargers decals on her window and the moment the news went out everyone told her to take them off because they betrayed us. Sad
I don't watch the NFL much anymore but I recall a game I saw with Rivers playing, apparently he was in his prime, and he was the most impressive QB I ever saw, and that includes Brady. He was having a good game and a quick search on Wikipedia shows he had HOF calibre. Since he never was on a super winning team that's even more impressive (a good team will lift all the players, even the average ones).
@@raylopez99 ...Nah, he was on a SB winning team during his first year. They had a wide open window in 2005/06 and blew it badly. I remember that game vividly against the Patriots. They came back again years later in 08 but couldn't make it due to Rivers tearing his MCL and ACL, I think. After that, they were slowly falling apart.
I remember when this was going on in San Diego. Spanos never wanted to stay, he wanted the new Stadium to be paid by city tax dollars and refused to pitch in any money. San Diegans like me we’re mad cause our roads aren’t the best and schools. We wanted more tax dollars to go to roads and schools not the stadium. He’s so greedy
The same thing happened to Oakland with the Raiders. I totally get where you're coming from, schools, roads and such is much more important for the city than an actual team. I live in Vegas, so I I know I haven't experienced having a pro football team uny town, but we also have a to of other stuff, and I honestly feel like moving the Raiders here was just something that's going to make Vegas like LA, oversaturated, if it isn't already.
I never thought Qualcomm needed replacing. The only problems were that the dressing rooms were for athletes not entitled egomaniacs and the first rows of seats were blocked by wall to wall cameras. Fine if there was space between cameras.
As a Raider fan I would love to see the Chargers sold to a worthy family and return to San Diego with a new stadium. Nothing worse than beating a team with no fan base. There's nobody to talk shit to. #SelltheChargers
As a Raider Fan I WOULD LOVE to see Marc Davis forced to sell the team. So we could have a owner that actually cares of the team wins or loses and isn't a puppet for the leauge.
Nobody an afford to build a stadium in California... Look at how much that new stadium is LA cost... And it's smaller than the new Raider stadium, but 4 times more expensive.
@Heysus Christo lmao no the people in the Charger's front office are utterly incompitant. The Aztecs who shared the qualcomm with the chargers managed to get approval for a new stadium in under 2 years. Dean Spanos is just greedy and incompitant
@PapaGeorg10 Not true, fans filled the stadium when the product was good as tickets excelled 100$+ for shitty seats. Unlike the LA chargers who still sold seats to other fans in a 12-4 season....
Even after about five years, sportscasters are still incorrectly calling them the SAN DIEGO CHARGERS. I will always think of them as such. San Diego Super Chargers.⚡️
kishin Power their fanbase is wayyyy to loyal for that remember you aren’t a “real raiders fan” unless you a yes man they showed no anger until they played the jags I still think they’ll have an average fanbase it’s also Las Vegas we saw what happened with the golden knights
@@kishinpower3317 Eh. Pretty sure the city of Oakland basically made the Raiders leave so it's harder to dislike the team. The Chargers had a lot of things that led up to what happened. Plus the Chargers gave up on San Diego and acted like LA actually wanted them. It makes it even worse that LA doesn't even seem to care about the Chargers while San Diego did. Plus changing to LA from SD hurts more than Oakland to LV.
I wish Dean Spanos get caught with a crazy scandal that’ll force him to sell the team. He embarrassed and disrespected the team, the city of SD, and the fans. Im a die hard chargers fan, but personally, I’m sick of tired of people joking about the chargers because of his idiotic behavior.
Speaking as someone who has witnessed the gradual shift in perception from the LA side towards the team, I think that this past season was the first time that most in the city thought of them as being an LA team. Ever since SoFi has allowed back fans, the Bolts have managed to improve their ticket sales. Having been to the team’s training camp this past year it was clear that the majority there were actually Angelinos and that, while there was still a sizable SD contingent, the team now has an actual fan base in LA. Herbert has managed to get people in the area interested and excited about the team. The attitude shift that most in the city have undergone towards them, myself included, is best reflected by Bill Plaske, legendary LA Times columnist. When the Chargers first announced the move, he wrote a whole column that blasted the move and asked if they were a top 5 or even top 10 team in LA. Just this past season, the day after the Jacksonville game, he was clearly unhappy and spent the first part of the show talking about how sad the game made him. The team’s massive presence online and in the community has also increased exposure and pulled more people in. To summarize, nobody in LA is stupid. None of us trust truly Spanos (we saw what he did to San Diego, which was a heinous crime against football), but there’s nothing you can really do about him. It’s also clear the team is intent on staying put (especially since they’ve got a new hq in El Segundo that they’ll be opening up next year). It’s taken a few years, but they finally feel like an actual part of the city now rather then some wannabe who drove up the 405. Up until about mid-2022 I think most in LA would’ve been fine with the Bolts going back south. Now, from my experience talking to people and living in the city, it is clear that everyone is not only fine with the Chargers, but wants them to stay. I also want to make one thing clear: everyone in LA wants the NFL to return to San Diego. It feels wrong that SD only has baseball and soccer to it’s name when it deserves football, basketball, and hockey as well. San Diego deserves a team and it’s a travesty the way it got screwed over. Once SD takes its rightful spot back in the league, that first game where the LA Chargers return to SD will become must see tv.
Rivers did say before they left San Diego if they moved to LA he would leave. The Chargers are in trouble this season because Tyrod Taylor sucks, every team he played for he got benched.
@@djtrankilo231 Jim Irsay is a wayyyyyyy better owner than Spanos. He realized his mistake and got rid of Grigson and installed Ballard. Unfortunately Luck's body gave out after all the hits (even though he had a great season in 2018).
As a Houston Oiler fan I can relate. I loved the team but the owner was a miserable person. In the end, greed and a new stadium deal is what forced Adams to move the team. The mayor at the time was asked about building a new stadium and he said "To do it, you've got to have three things going your way; the administration, business and the fans. I had none of these/" The move was inevitable. The Texans replaced them but I never felt the same about them despite having season tickets for 14 years. Kudos to San Diego for doing the right thing.
Its sad because San Diego has a lot of upside, but because of LA just up the road, team owners are going to want a piece of the LA pie way more than San Diego. San Diego is like LA's little brother, it will always play 2nd fiddle to LA no matter what
As a very bitter ex-Charger fan, this video has aged pretty well. I’m not anti LA by any means as I’m a Dodgers/Lakers fan and I enjoy plane spotting at LAX but the way Dean left forever soured me on the Chargers and I don’t miss them one bit. I remember that rainy day well when they officially left and I saw that stupid letter Dean wrote…. I grabbed a flat edged screwdriver and went outside in the rain to scrape a Chargers emblem I had on my Jeep, I was so angry that I dug into the paint to scrape the stupid thing off and when it came off I let it fall into the gutter and watched it float away in the muddy water. Good riddance. Eventually I became a Rams fan and literally days ago they hoisted up a Lombardi trophy. Never would’ve had that happen with that clown show franchise that will never amount to anything and will never win jack shit. Plus seeing Eric Weddle blast the Chargers after winning the Super Bowl was priceless. Even better is knowing that Dean now gets to look at 2 Lombardi trophies that don’t belong to him everyday! I will forever hate Dean Spanos and the Chargers. Last year while I was at LAX I saw Dean’s stupid Citation business jet with its Chargers helmet on the vertical stabilizer and cheat lines in Chargers colors… I so wanted badly to throw rocks at it but didn’t for obvious reasons… I did flip it the bird though, felt good.
If we were in SD when we went 12-4 the fans would have started to go the games and who knows, we could have had a better record and seeding if we actually had a home field
I was crushed when the Browns left CLE. Other than the Browns my favorite football team has always been the San Diego Chargers, going way back to the Air Coryell days. I lived in SD for a year and my brother calls it home. My favorite place in the world is Torrey Pines. This is my roundabout way of saying, "I feel your pain." Everybody (except Roger Goodell, apparently) knows LA cannot support two football teams(or even one). Would you take the Chargers back when they decide to "bolt" again? Or how about the Orange County Chargers?
As a Portland Blazers fan I was also so freaking sad when the Sonics were shipped out. I really cannot wait until you guys get a team again and reignite that local rivalry that we all grew up with in the NorthWest!
I didn’t know anything about football until I travelled to Southern California back in 2008 when I was living in Europe . We were in San Diego during late August and some friends of mine who lived wanted me to experience football and I attended a preseason game . From there I got involved into football to the point to watch every game pretty much and even play Fantasy football . I of course chose to support the Chargers cause they were the first team I watched and knew anything about . I then moved to SD in 2011 and watched as many live games as possible . I was super bummed when this move to LA happened . There was such a nice atmosphere at Qualcomm . Watching Rivers LT Gates playing was a blast . I must say there were quite a lot supporters for the opposite teams ( especially teams with lots of following like Steelers or raiders or cowboys or broncos or 49ers), but it was never a full stadium filled by opposite supporters like the stub hub , I would say when it was really really bad it was a 60-40 for chargers fans , but other than those games usually 80% where chargers fans . I will never understand this decision and hope they can come back in the future somehow , but not matter what I will still support them
ALF Raydough I went to the chargers raiders game in LA (I’m a Chargers fan for god knows what reason) and there were 80% raiders fans. Most were super nice but almost got into a fight about 3 mins into the game for standing to cheer for the home team hahahah
I honestly don’t understand why the NFL let the Chargers move to LA instead of the Raiders. I’m for the Raiders staying in Oakland but they would have much more success in LA than the Chargers.
@ALF Raydough I REMEMBER in 1993 when the raiders played the dallas cowboys in front of 90,000 plus fans!! 70,000 fans WERE ROOTING FOR THE DALLAS COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1/3 of the raiders fans that showed up in the la memorial coliseum in general came from the east bay ( oakland) via united express flights or a 5 to 6 hour drive and 15% of the raiders fans were THE LOCAL AREA PEOPLE who lived around the stadium!!!!!!!!!!!!la IS STILL A RAMS TOWN but you have many "transplanted people" from the midwest,some from new york and new england area and over the last 15 years a nice influx from all over the pennsylvania area particularly philadelphia!!!!!!!!!!! moving to las vegas is a great move for the raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!1the chargers should be back in san diego and the rams do belong in LA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!..........thank god for directv compared to the mid 1990's when directv was in its infancy!!!!!!! the rams already have 65,000 season ticket holders!!!!!!!!!!!!
I might be the only guy who doesn't mind the rebrand. I would like a logo with an actual ram in it but those uniforms are straight fire. I have no idea why everyone's dissing on em.
It honestly makes me so happy to see ads in quality creators videos . Like this dude gives so much free content to the world and gives so much effort to create it . It makes me happy to know that he gets paid .
@C R Padres are on fire and will continue the momentum next year, but a reminder that it’s been 14 years since they even made it to the playoffs prior to this season. Trust I still love them but they ain’t no Dodgers 🤣
I wondered about that too, especially as the NFL offered them 300million to stay too but I think its because Spanner doesnt have to pay 650million in one go, just over a ten year period.
@@tsu8003 The city would've given him a sweetheart loan on that so he would've have to put it all up front. The dude wanted to spend nothing or go to LA.
Oh, that Eagles game in Week 4 of 2017 was glorious! To see the entire stadium bathed in midnight green, to hear the Chargers being booed as they ran onto their own field, to know that there were likely more third-team fans at that game than Chargers fans...but of course, none of that matters to Spanos, because the Eagles fans wound up lining his pockets that week.
My friend was a massive chargers fan (he was born in San Diego, before both him and the team moved) he stuck by them through it all but he was finally broken by the Pats game.
You do definitely see that football is only about dollar signs. Not about the fans. Im still a fan. Might wear a hat. But im never buying anything like merchandise or tickets again. They got alot of money from me as a season ticket holder. Parking, tailgates every.single.game... the bbqs, the jerseys... but they pissed us all away like that.
@@paulgrieshop5024 as a charger fan, I've still been loyal to my team, but can't stand helping out spanos. Voting for colts over chargers next year; wan't rivers to get that ring.
@@sellfone1913 I don't blame you I am a Raiders fan and I was at a game a few years ago and the fans in Oakland said Mark Davis thinks he is going to get 30,000 of us to come to Vegas every week he has another thing coming. He should have sold the team to Larry Ellison who owns Oracle he has the money and political pull to build a new stadium in Oakland but you know you can't fix stupid like Dean and Mark
Can you make a similar video about how Kroenke screwed the Rams in St. Louis? A lot of people to this day think it was St. Louis’ fault, but it was absolutely Kroenke
It was totally kroenke u could tell he was tanking the team so as soon as they arrived to LA they could explode onto the scene and get a bunch of bandwagons, and it worked
Aiden Deim You’re absolutely correct. Kroenke had already decided 15 years ago that he was going to move the team to LA when the lease ended regardless of the new stadium proposal, the teams success, or attendance
@@boyderv2317 Kroenke decided to move a team that was moved from LA back to LA. The Rams move doesn't bug me. If they moved to Las Vegas I would feel bad about it, but they moved back to LA. Fan apathy is a problem but I don't find it to be as offensive of a move.
Well Kroenke righted a wrong with another wrong. I’m a current Los Angeles rams fan, I’ve been a fan since 2008. In reality Kroenke’s decision is charity compared to how Georgia Frontiere fucked LA over. Kroenke and Frontiere ironically both have strongarmed a death in their business history, but Frontiere’s was deliberate while Kroenke merely just bought out a chunk of land and the pending infrastructure drove a nearby neighbor to suicide. Frontiere actually had mob ties and evidence of a committed murder on Carroll Rosenbloom who was an Olympic gold medal swimmer. Georgia bullied the shit outta networks and the Anaheim stadium staff to the point that their games were regularly blacked out and she ended up alienating the historically strong Los Angeles fanbase they once had in the 1960s and 70s. By that point her ties to the mob and lack of ambition for any real tie to The Southern California or any desire to bring jobs in construction for a new stadium. Kroenke merely had gotten the reigns to a team Georgia nearly destroyed and had very few options left. The stadium was a dump, the city was clearly uninterested in the rams franchise as a whole. They only recorded 2 sell out games during their tenure in St Louis, they’ve recorded 7 since they moved back to LA. Kroenke didn’t exactly leave on a great note, I agree. But he had no other choice and he’s by far not as horrible of an owner as his Predecessor.
Alex Moreno The only problem is Kroenke illegally broke relocation rules, and the city had a stadium plan ready, but Kroenke denied that. Also, the Rams had 95 straight sellout games from 1999-2006, not 2
It's 4 years later from time this video was posted, 2024. I'm almost 58 and I grew up in San Diego but live further north now closer to LA. I have been a Chargers fan since 1972. This coming season the Chargers have taken a bold leap of faith in hiring Jim Harbaugh, as the head coach who won the National Championship for Michigan. He was once a QB for the Chargers. The new Sophi stadium is built and still brings in the bulk of other teams fans. I am a Chargers fan and with stick with my Bolts til I drop dead. This year is the year things are going to change. I have always said they will arrive and when they do their fan base will grow because human beings are fickle creatures. If they had won a Superbowl all the years that they were in San Diego they would still be there. Nevertheless, they are my team through all the disappointing seasons. Go Bolts.
The NFL and kroenke knew that the Raiders would overshadow the Rams instantly. They put a stop to it, it was real greaseball s***. Not as greaseball as the teams leaving their towns but still greaseball
They wouldve retained a majority of their fanbase. The NFL and Spanos underestimated San Diegos hatred of LA. I mean I had signs, Beat LA!! They would give them out... now they're moving there? Forget that.
To quote Nick Canepa (a sportswriter for the Union Tribune, San Diego's paper): "The Rams should change the name of the stadium to HOME OF THE RAMS, ETC."
To be fair both teams don't have a large fam base. Pretty sure LA is raider nation for the most part anyways. Basically when Raiders play Chargers or Rams in LA it is home field advantage. Basically Raiders have two home games against chargers.
As a San Diegian, the reasons I voted against the stadium were: 1 - The Spanos family weren't willing to put in a single dollar ($0) towards the stadium. They were adamant on that. Either we pay for it all or they were leaving. 2 - They wanted to put the stadium in downtown SD, and add ZERO additional parking or give money towards expanding the trolley system downtown to service the stadium. 3 - Padres stadium is already downtown SD, and having 2 stadiums downtown would have been just too much. The proposed site was only a few blocks from the Padres 4 - The city offered various other locations in SD, but Spanos ONLY wanted it downtown. He caught 'Jerry Jones-itis' and wanted a monument built to his 'greatness'. We called his bluff, and he pouted like the little punk he is and took his ball and left.
It’s sad when Spanos pisses away history of a historical team: Fouts, the miracle ‘94 team, LT, Brees, Rivers, Antonio Gates. It’s like you put trust in a loyal fan base and you give them a giant middle finger
And a Hockey team, and two NBA teams, as well as the LV Raiders, and the Sacramento Kings.. And EVERY ONE OF THEM sell better than the Chargers. Even the frigging Clippers sell better than them as far as LA goes, even though the Raiders and the NBA Kings aren't even in LA. FUCK YOU DEAN SPANOS.
Such a good video. Native San Diegan here, and lifelong San Diego Chargers Fan and 10 yr+ Season Ticket Holder....in San Diego. San Diego had numerous proposals and offerings to the Chargers to assist in developing a new stadium, but if it wasn't FULLY PAID for by the City, Dean would thumb his nose at it. Let some real Billionaire, like Jeff Bezos or Joseph Tsai buy the team, and build a stadium in San Diego, so they can come back.
Actually, the two times I attended games at Qualcomm Stadium, I loved it. There wasn't a bad seat anywhere. No issues with anything with the stadium except the traffic getting there.
Don’t worry, the NFL won’t ever relocate internationally. Even though there are some international fans, the NFL will make far more money by having teams exclusively in the states
I like your Introduction to your add. In fact, I think reminding people that you’re not rich and have to pay rent is the best introduction to a commercial. I respect it.
Lots of fan bases vote and choose to fund stadiums. The people of San Diego did not. I went to a game in the Chargers’ final year there and the Stadium was an absolute dump. I’m from Michigan and the old Silver Dome that the Lions played in that was demolished years ago was 100 times nicer. If the residents of San Diego didn’t want to kick in like other fan bases do, then they don’t get to have a team. It’s just the way of the world. So cry in your coffee.
Clay, you have no clue what you’re talking about, by the time that vote came up the Chargers were already moving and everybody knew it, they already been given the option by the NFL. The Chargers had been trying to get a new stadium in San Diego for years, at least as early as 2002, but the city never wanted to work with them until relocation became a real possibility and by that time it was too late because the Chargers had already decided to move.
@@Jmmoffa @Joe Maffa - You may be right. I’m not from San Diego. But... If I’m wrong, then so were all of the former Chargers that gave half time speeches, at the game I attended, and they were imploring the fans to vote. Dan Fouts, Ladanian Tomlinson, Kellen Winslow, John Carnie and other living Charger legends were there. I wished Jr. Seau hadn’t passed 4 years earlier. The exact game was in November of 2016 against the Tennessee Titans. The Charger legends were all asking for the vote for funding for the new stadium which would keep the Chargers in San Diego. If I’m not mistaken, they were all saying that it would only cost every San Diego household .09 cents per month or something ridiculously nominal. I could remember thinking to myself: “Damn, I don’t even have an NFL team in my city, and I’d be willing to pay a hell of a lot more than that in taxes just to have one.”. But apparently even the old Charger legends had no idea what they were talking about any more than I did... You said it though. Maybe I’m as wrong as those guys were, and you had it all figured out the whole time... Damn! Check out the big brain on Joe!
Clay, Mocking me doesn’t make you right, do you really think Spanos cared anybody the fans at all, he couldn’t care less. He wasn’t going to miss the opportunity get a new stadium guaranteed in 3 years because if they didn’t move to LA after that season the Raiders would have. Even ESPN was saying that the vote was pointless because the Chargers already had the option to move to LA and that Spanos wanted to move and that he had already moved there. He just let everybody believe he would stay in San Diego if the vote passed, but had no intention of staying and of most of us knew that. Look what happened in St. Louis, they approved a $150 million for a new stadium to built near the river and the Rams still left, it’s doesn’t matter to the owners what the city or the fans want, if they want to leave they will.
moving to a city that’s primarily fans of your rival in the raiders and to do it a year after the team that used to play there… moved back there…. just a horrendous move
Lol stock market is base on projection and estimation, so neither the la market are so big they can afford 3 NFL steam or when reality hit the charge have to move some were else again, I hope is not Texas (second largest football market) or England
Ultimately the value of something is only what another person is willing to pay. I could claim my house is valued at 10 million dollars, but if the best offer is 275k...that is the real value. So sure, on paper the Chargers are worth more, but I can't imagine them selling for as much as other franchises given they have a dwindling fanbase and not even their own stadium.
@@khanhnguyen-tt3ff I personally want them to stay in LA, but I do love London and that would be cool for them to have the NFL market if an entire country.
Did you see the ticket prices!? And the 100 dollar parking price!? That in my opinion is the number one reason why there weren't that many fans. It was too fucking expensive! I looked because I wanted to go! Was too much of a headache. They were mainly premium seating prices. I looked at the new stadium prices and they are more normal. The reason all those Steeler and chief fans were there because it was more than just going to a game, it was their damn " let's go to the southern California beach getaway weekend." Which tbh, that's how you do it. Whenever I go on vacation to a city, I'm already spending a grip, so I might as well go all out for the best time and I buy tickets to a concert or something as well.
@@chucho35pewdsmiester78 I don’t think that’s the problem, people just don’t want to support Spanos, if they got a competent owner, I’m sure they wouldn’t mind making a drive out to LA to watch their games.
The Chargers are ghost in San Diego. A faded lightning bolt on back of a car. A homeless person wearing a LT jersey. Old Bud Light Neon Charger signs collect dust in bars. Theres no LA Charger fans here, just SD fans without a team.
First off, I want to say that growing up, my three favorite teams (starting in 2003) were the Raiders, Niners, and Patriots in that order. I stopped supporting the Raiders after they traded Khalil Mack. It was clear at that point that they were focusing on success in Vegas instead of a final ride in Oakland. Once the Raiders detached from the Bay Area, so did my fandom with them. The Niners are now my favorite team, with the Patriots being #2. Yet I get a ton of flack for no longer supporting the Raiders. If the Chargers lose fans from San Diego and the Rams lose fans from St. Louis, why is the Raiders losing fans from Oakland any different? This video encapsulated San Diego's anger with the Chargers. I lived in St. Louis for 2 years, and you hardly saw Rams gear.
@@justbecause7402 it's all commerce at the end of the day. You can root for whoever you want. I root for the Eagles and the Texans, and no one gives me any flack for supporting multiple teams
I hope that the LA Chargers fail to play good football and are a complete and utter financial disaster to the point Spanos is forced to sell them to someone with more sense and dignity
Chris Playsmut I’ve met so many chargers fans online, people act like just because they barley have any fans in LA Dosent mean they still have a large following in SD
Here's a good question. How long will the value of the team stay as high as it is if their stadium is barely half (if even that) full, and the vast majority of the seats that *are* filled are *not* for that team? The value is based on how much it is believed ownership of that team will generate *in the future* (through ticket sales, merchandise, viewership, and of course, sponsorships to capitalize on that fan support)? If it becomes blatantly obvious there is *no one* interested in that team, not to buy tickets, buy merchandise, or even watch their games on TV, how long before it becomes obvious there is *much less* money to be made from owning that team than originally expected, and the value of that team *completely* craters? Seriously, this feels like a bubble! How long before this bubble bursts? What is keeping the valuation of the team so high when there is virtually no one watching the team (in person or on TV) and no one buying its merchandise?
Can we just talk about how LA is the bastion of stolen teams? They have: The Lakers from Minneapolis The Clippers from San Diego The Dodgers from Brooklyn The Rams from St. Louis and, of course, the Chargers from San Diego That leaves them with the Kings and Galaxy for actual native LA teams. They did have the Wildcats, but the XFL folded so it doesn't matter
You do realize lots of teams with loyal fan bases have “stolen” teams. Chiefs started in Dallas, Ravens in Cleveland, colts in Baltimore, Yankees from Baltimore, Braves from Boston then to Milwaukee and many more.
Anaheim is close enough to say that LA area has 2 NHL teams (Ducks ) and 2 MLB teams (Angels). And this article from Wikipedia states there are 2 MLS teams too en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_in_Los_Angeles. So, count them; 2 NBA, 2 NHL, 2 MLB, 2 MLS, 2 NFL teams. Yes, "Beyond Sensible.."
I think the window is too late for the Chargers. The Rams moving to LA and then their Super Bowl appearance seems to have won over the city. Heck, the Rams WERE LA's team for decades, so little chance of even getting older folks to support the Chargers. LA already has two pro baseball and two pro basketball teams, one NFL team is all that can fit in that market I feel.
@@thunderbird1921 exactly, and even then I'm not really sure LA is still getting love there, even after their SB win. I'm sure people wanted the Raiders back, you wouldve had a whole different reaction IMHO
As a Bills fan and remembering the time when we were possibly relocating to fckn Toronto for a few years, I can empathize with the San Diego Chargers *BELONGING* in San Diego! The teams are synonymous with the city they play in! Always respected the San Diego Chargers and I will refuse to call them anything else than ..the San Diego Chargers. Same feeling goes for the Oakland Raiders, too in fact.
I just subscribed. I had to. That was some damn good writing with a crazy awesome call back. I also thought the video was well edited. I think I am going to be a big fan of this channel. Thanks for the content.
So I'm a K.C. fan...it really was/is a sad day in the NFL. San Diego is Chargers football. It's worry you feel (as a fan of K.C.) Like: is Rivers gonna be good today or implode? It's the rivalry. Always fighting for the #1 spot. To take them outta Diego is a suck ass decision.
Great video. Growing up a Chargers fan in San Diego. It was mind blowing to see the Spanos actually move the team especially in the way they did it. Unforgivable and cruel for the fans of the Chargers. But now that Rivers is gone I cut all ties to Dean Judas Spanos and his joke of a team in Los Angeles.
So long as Spanos owns the Chargers and keeps the helmetless limp Bolt as the team logo, THEY ARE CURSED. As a San Diego Charger fan, the spectacular losses are quite entertaining. They no longer represent my hometown. I don't care if they go 2-16, as long as they beat the Raiders twice. If the Chargers are irrelevent, I don't even follow the NFL. I go surfing.
This is so sad. I am from Italy and I started watching football around 2007/2008 and with LT, Rivers, Gates, Cromartie, the Chargers became one of my favorite team. It's so sad to see them become so irrelevant, with no fans, playing in a tiny stadium filled with fans of other teams. I think greed is what eventually is going to ruin the NFL. Other historical teams in small markets, like the Bills and the Bengals seem to be destined for a similar future. And it sucks. No respect for the fan base and the history of the league
I'd also like to point out that Spanos specifically wanted to build his new stadium in downtown San Diego. Like many San Diegans, I wanted the Chargers to stay... but I didn't want downtown San Diego to be blighted by an enormous football parking lot that will be empty 350 days out of the year. That was a big reason why I voted against his stadium.
16:07(correction) Basketball: Lakers-Clippers Hockey: Kings-Ducks Baseball: Dodgers-Angels Soccer: Galaxy- LA FC Football: Rams-Chargers. Yeah SoCal is crowded enough, I know
As a Broncos fan from a small SoCal town, I loved watching Broncos vs Chargers in SD. I will never pay to watch that same matchup in LA. I would rather make the trip to Denver. Sorry for your loss Bolts fans.
Spanos made the fatal calculation the Chargers would lose about two-thirds their San Diego fan base, and pick up twice that in LA and Orange County. What actually happened was they lost 90% of their San Diego fan base, and the fans they kept were largely fans who already lived somewhere other than San Diego. Spanos somehow forgot San Diegans HATE Los Angeles. It would be like an owner moving the Red Sox to New York, and expecting Boston fans will continue to root for them.
Spot on! Most of the fans I saw wanting the move were not from San Diego. They were from other parts of the country and became Chagers fans not because of their connection with San Diego. They had no idea how San Diego fans view Los Angeles.
Drew Brees started his career in San Diego in 2001 but after he injured his shoulder, the Chargers did not believe he would completely recover and released him in 2006. And even though that decision was understandable at the time, I'm sure Chargers fans today can't help but wonder what could have been if Brees had not suffered that injury OR the Chargers had not given up on him. It must have sucked being a Chargers fan when Brees led the Saints to a Super Bowl win in 2010. I'm sure many of them were thinking, "Damn, that could have been us!"
As a Chargers fan who lives in LA, I hated when they moved up here. They became the clippers of the NFL (ringless organization sharing a stadium with a successful past.) But then seeing the shit show fiasco of how our fanbase was outnumbered by the opposing team and the sight of empty seats was devastating. However one thing people forget is how San Diego treated their team, drove down to many games, my last one was LT Jersey retirement against the Chiefs. It was heartbreaking for me seeing the good amount of empty seats and numerous Chief jerseys for a franchise and hometown hero. How can you be upset for the owner moving the team when the city didn't fully support them. As for the people who don't live in southern Cali, let me just say, LA is a Dodgers and Lakers town! Those two franchises have a loyal fanbase in LA and surrounding counties that can't be untouch. Even USC football could sell out the Coliseum better than the Rams, due to their longevity and successful history. As far for NFL teams, you could find any fan of whatever you can think of, but the big fav five fanbases here are Raiders, Cowboys, 9ers, Packers and Steelers. Any of those teams play in LA, best believe their fanbase is showing and outnumbering either LA team.
I just want to take a moment to think about how the San Diego Chargers fired their 14-2 coach in 2006.
the curse of Schotty is a powerful, powerful curse. 13 years without an AFC finals berth.
I just want a moment to think how Philip Rivers got them to 14-2 in the first place and yet a lot of Chargers fans seem to forget that!
@@tsu8003 those are the LA fans
Power struggle between former GM AJ Smith and former head coach Marty Schottenheimer
@@tsu8003 LT scored 30 sum tds so who helped the most? Him or Rivers
"Have you ever heard the tragedy of Dean Spanos the entitled?"
"It's not a story the Chargers would tell you..."
😂😂😂
"Is it possible to learn this power?"
"Not from a fanbase."
Fuck you Spanos
“Unfortunately, he told San Diego about his plans to move to Los Angeles. Then Los Angeles didn’t give a shit. Ironic. He could make unite people to hate his team, but not to love it.”
@@theghoul2303 Words from the Urinating Tree regarding Dean Spanos.
The Chargers belong in San Diego. Period.
San Diego is too good for the chargers
@@renzisrad San diego has a jinx on its sports teams
I still call them the San Diego Chargers 🤷♂️
I totally agree all 3 teams Chargers, Rams and Raiders belong in their homes Chargers in San Diego, Rams in Los Angeles and Raiders in Oakland
@@Itshadow306 St.Louis would strongly disagree with you lol
This should be good
Spanos sucks, but this was a waste of my time.
Chargers: Betrays their entire fanbase by leaving the city they've been in for years.
Raiders: Write that down, write that down!
Write what down? Raider fans are nationwide.
Difference is the Raiders are loved and if they go to LA many of their diehard fans would go plus raiders have a much better history and established base in LA but no they got Las Vegas rip
The belong in Oakland always have always will be Oakland. Al Davis had to throw his temper tantrum and got his wish and moved to Los Angeles the first 4 years were good then after that disaster the Rams out drew him number and percentage wise and trouble getting sponsors and went back to Oakland with his tail between his legs and was to arrogant and prideful to admit he made a mistake. Had he stayed in Oakland he would have won more games and championships. The real raiders fans are the east bay and northern California all the way to Reno Nevada. Las Vegas will be a disaster in a few years even John Madden said to Mark Davis your father would have never approved of this.
@@tcwarden758 but it's the east bay is were the real base is. 80 percent of the fans are the east bay and northern California.
So the raiders should just stay in a stadium with increasing rent, terrible field conditions and sewage backups that is also a dual purpose stadium, because in the last two decades they've gotten nowhere in stadium talks with Oakland, not to mention mark davis isnt a billionaire so idk what else the raiders were supposed to do at that point. Basically Oakland wanted to keep the raiders in that disaster forever and keep jacking up the rent to do so, and then play victim when they leave again, I have sympathy for the fans, 0 for the city government.
Coming from a guy who has live in San Diego my whole life, Dean is the most hated man in the city and that was even before they moved to LA
And the idiot had to pay a severance fee almost as big as building a new stadium. The son did not have the old man's smarts.
It's hard not to see why.
@@treyblaze22 I’ll say fuck Spanos till the day I die even if they come back
Hopefully the NFL brings back a new to team that cares about the loyal fans of San Diego soon.
I’ve even got an idea for a new team name: The San Diego Armada
The Chargers coming to Los Angeles was such a stupid move. I don't see them long term here. Los Angeles doesn't need two NFL teams.
Dude I love your work!
same with basketball.
XxxFaze_YugxxX The Clippers have surprisingly been there for a while, considering how long they had sucked while being in the same market as the freaking Lakers. I wonder how they hadn’t moved yet.
@@akeme25 Clippers also moved to LA from San Diego
@@akeme25 Chargers will have to go throught the same painfull process
ya gotta feel sorry for the athletes man. They don't deserve this
Awww those poor millionaires playing a game doing what they love! They don’t give a shit about you and you shouldn’t care about some dudes moving cities to play football
At least Rivers is no longer there
steven foxkit that doesn’t make sense. Nothing wrong with caring for another person regardless of their money.
Caring for what dude? Like wtf are you so upset about? People are literally starving and dying all over the world and you think I should give a fuck about people moving up the freeway?
steven foxkit that’s a classic illogical argument. Just because someone has it worse doesn’t mean you can’t have relative concern for each situation. You don’t have to demean or diminish someone because another has it worse. I can show full and appropriate concern (and response for someone who is hungry) while showing a relative empathy for someone who is more fortunate.
As a San Diegan this still makes me feel sad. My family, especially my dad were huge fans. I still remember I even got to meet Rivers at a event hosted by my uncle. I still remember how my science teacher had chargers decals on her window and the moment the news went out everyone told her to take them off because they betrayed us. Sad
I don't watch the NFL much anymore but I recall a game I saw with Rivers playing, apparently he was in his prime, and he was the most impressive QB I ever saw, and that includes Brady. He was having a good game and a quick search on Wikipedia shows he had HOF calibre. Since he never was on a super winning team that's even more impressive (a good team will lift all the players, even the average ones).
@@raylopez99 ...Nah, he was on a SB winning team during his first year. They had a wide open window in 2005/06 and blew it badly. I remember that game vividly against the Patriots. They came back again years later in 08 but couldn't make it due to Rivers tearing his MCL and ACL, I think. After that, they were slowly falling apart.
I remember when this was going on in San Diego. Spanos never wanted to stay, he wanted the new Stadium to be paid by city tax dollars and refused to pitch in any money. San Diegans like me we’re mad cause our roads aren’t the best and schools. We wanted more tax dollars to go to roads and schools not the stadium. He’s so greedy
The same thing happened to Oakland with the Raiders. I totally get where you're coming from, schools, roads and such is much more important for the city than an actual team. I live in Vegas, so I I know I haven't experienced having a pro football team uny town, but we also have a to of other stuff, and I honestly feel like moving the Raiders here was just something that's going to make Vegas like LA, oversaturated, if it isn't already.
I never thought Qualcomm needed replacing. The only problems were that the dressing rooms were for athletes not entitled egomaniacs and the first rows of seats were blocked by wall to wall cameras. Fine if there was space between cameras.
@@bretarmstrong6303 - thats a very good observation !! I wanna see how that plays out
@97RAVINEAVE -👍👍
Bret Armstrong the difference is spanos had 2.4 billion dollars and Marc Davis’ net worth is somewhere around 700 mil
As a Raider fan I would love to see the Chargers sold to a worthy family and return to San Diego with a new stadium. Nothing worse than beating a team with no fan base. There's nobody to talk shit to. #SelltheChargers
As a Raider Fan I WOULD LOVE to see Marc Davis forced to sell the team. So we could have a owner that actually cares of the team wins or loses and isn't a puppet for the leauge.
Nobody an afford to build a stadium in California... Look at how much that new stadium is LA cost... And it's smaller than the new Raider stadium, but 4 times more expensive.
@@christopherjackson9721 Wanna swap owners? I'd trade Spanos for Davis any day!
@Heysus Christo lmao no the people in the Charger's front office are utterly incompitant. The Aztecs who shared the qualcomm with the chargers managed to get approval for a new stadium in under 2 years. Dean Spanos is just greedy and incompitant
@PapaGeorg10 Not true, fans filled the stadium when the product was good as tickets excelled 100$+ for shitty seats. Unlike the LA chargers who still sold seats to other fans in a 12-4 season....
Even after about five years, sportscasters are still incorrectly calling them the SAN DIEGO CHARGERS. I will always think of them as such. San Diego Super Chargers.⚡️
Only the first season they did that by mistake..it's understandable. They clearly know it's L.A now Bolt Up⚡⚡
@@anthonyaguilars1198 about three weeks ago the same mistake again.
I’m a chiefs fan and even I was disgusted
U can tell what team I like but this is just disgusting by dean to just kick and scream on his way out kroenke did the same thing too
man whats going to happen to the raiders
I still call the San Diego on accident sometimes.
kishin Power their fanbase is wayyyy to loyal for that remember you aren’t a “real raiders fan” unless you a yes man they showed no anger until they played the jags I still think they’ll have an average fanbase it’s also Las Vegas we saw what happened with the golden knights
@@kishinpower3317
Eh. Pretty sure the city of Oakland basically made the Raiders leave so it's harder to dislike the team. The Chargers had a lot of things that led up to what happened. Plus the Chargers gave up on San Diego and acted like LA actually wanted them. It makes it even worse that LA doesn't even seem to care about the Chargers while San Diego did.
Plus changing to LA from SD hurts more than Oakland to LV.
I wish Dean Spanos get caught with a crazy scandal that’ll force him to sell the team. He embarrassed and disrespected the team, the city of SD, and the fans. Im a die hard chargers fan, but personally, I’m sick of tired of people joking about the chargers because of his idiotic behavior.
Cincinnati fans feel your pain concerning child inherited ownership.
I know. I wish someone had him on video dropping the n word.
Given the shit that has been going on recent, you guys just need him to say something racist and all hell breaks loose
We need Dean Spanos to become like another owner of a Los Angeles sports team that moved from San Diego who’s initials are D.S.
He had two cop cars parked in front of his house for ages. Rabid death threats lmao
Speaking as someone who has witnessed the gradual shift in perception from the LA side towards the team, I think that this past season was the first time that most in the city thought of them as being an LA team. Ever since SoFi has allowed back fans, the Bolts have managed to improve their ticket sales. Having been to the team’s training camp this past year it was clear that the majority there were actually Angelinos and that, while there was still a sizable SD contingent, the team now has an actual fan base in LA. Herbert has managed to get people in the area interested and excited about the team. The attitude shift that most in the city have undergone towards them, myself included, is best reflected by Bill Plaske, legendary LA Times columnist. When the Chargers first announced the move, he wrote a whole column that blasted the move and asked if they were a top 5 or even top 10 team in LA. Just this past season, the day after the Jacksonville game, he was clearly unhappy and spent the first part of the show talking about how sad the game made him. The team’s massive presence online and in the community has also increased exposure and pulled more people in.
To summarize, nobody in LA is stupid. None of us trust truly Spanos (we saw what he did to San Diego, which was a heinous crime against football), but there’s nothing you can really do about him. It’s also clear the team is intent on staying put (especially since they’ve got a new hq in El Segundo that they’ll be opening up next year). It’s taken a few years, but they finally feel like an actual part of the city now rather then some wannabe who drove up the 405. Up until about mid-2022 I think most in LA would’ve been fine with the Bolts going back south. Now, from my experience talking to people and living in the city, it is clear that everyone is not only fine with the Chargers, but wants them to stay.
I also want to make one thing clear: everyone in LA wants the NFL to return to San Diego. It feels wrong that SD only has baseball and soccer to it’s name when it deserves football, basketball, and hockey as well. San Diego deserves a team and it’s a travesty the way it got screwed over. Once SD takes its rightful spot back in the league, that first game where the LA Chargers return to SD will become must see tv.
Well said about the NFL returning to San Diego. Hear Hear!
that will never happen because dean spanos is so nepotised he just doesnt want to rightfully give back to his fans
Whether they playLos Angeles, Newport Beach or San Diego, the Chargers have always played in Southern California!
Best move of Rivers career? Finally saying NO to Spanos and going to the Colts
Good luck Philip, finally go win that ring that you surely deserve!
From the Bolts to the Colts and Reunited with Reich. Hopefully Rivers can get to at least one Super Bowl before he retires.
As if the Irsays were better owners. They nearly killed Andrew Luck. They'll probably give Rivers a coup-de-grace
Rivers did say before they left San Diego if they moved to LA he would leave. The Chargers are in trouble this season because Tyrod Taylor sucks, every team he played for he got benched.
@@djtrankilo231 Jim Irsay is a wayyyyyyy better owner than Spanos. He realized his mistake and got rid of Grigson and installed Ballard. Unfortunately Luck's body gave out after all the hits (even though he had a great season in 2018).
Last time I was this early the chargers played in San Diego
Tight
🥺👉👈
So not long ago
As a Houston Oiler fan I can relate. I loved the team but the owner was a miserable person. In the end, greed and a new stadium deal is what forced Adams to move the team. The mayor at the time was asked about building a new stadium and he said "To do it, you've got to have three things going your way; the administration, business and the fans. I had none of these/" The move was inevitable. The Texans replaced them but I never felt the same about them despite having season tickets for 14 years. Kudos to San Diego for doing the right thing.
In SD we lost our NBA team, our NFL team and our MLB team has made the postseason 5 times in 50 years. San Diego sports is great
So many distractions in a beautiful city for these sports athletes
I"m a Mariners fan. What is a "postseason"?
Its sad because San Diego has a lot of upside, but because of LA just up the road, team owners are going to want a piece of the LA pie way more than San Diego. San Diego is like LA's little brother, it will always play 2nd fiddle to LA no matter what
@@johnchedsey1306 As a 26 year old brewers fan, I know what it feels like off your team reaching the top of the baseball mountain.
John Chedsey as a Kings fan i feel you
As a former Chargers fan, I can say that I hope Dean enjoys the visual of how empty that big stadium will be first time the Chargers host a game there
He's banking irregardless so I'm sure he could give two shits.
I can't wait until I see hundreds of charger tarps to fill up dead space. Imagine five thousand people in a venue that seats seventy thousand.
Alexander Remoll This comment aged well but not for the reasons intended
this aged well unexpectedly
come be a raiders fan so you can root against the team that betrayed you twice a year
As a very bitter ex-Charger fan, this video has aged pretty well. I’m not anti LA by any means as I’m a Dodgers/Lakers fan and I enjoy plane spotting at LAX but the way Dean left forever soured me on the Chargers and I don’t miss them one bit.
I remember that rainy day well when they officially left and I saw that stupid letter Dean wrote…. I grabbed a flat edged screwdriver and went outside in the rain to scrape a Chargers emblem I had on my Jeep, I was so angry that I dug into the paint to scrape the stupid thing off and when it came off I let it fall into the gutter and watched it float away in the muddy water. Good riddance.
Eventually I became a Rams fan and literally days ago they hoisted up a Lombardi trophy. Never would’ve had that happen with that clown show franchise that will never amount to anything and will never win jack shit. Plus seeing Eric Weddle blast the Chargers after winning the Super Bowl was priceless. Even better is knowing that Dean now gets to look at 2 Lombardi trophies that don’t belong to him everyday! I will forever hate Dean Spanos and the Chargers. Last year while I was at LAX I saw Dean’s stupid Citation business jet with its Chargers helmet on the vertical stabilizer and cheat lines in Chargers colors… I so wanted badly to throw rocks at it but didn’t for obvious reasons… I did flip it the bird though, felt good.
Lol you had a mental break down and became a bandwagon...cool story
I don't usually read long yt comments but this was great
Yessir
You don't get to just root for another team.. that's lame
if you were mad about the chargers moving to la....why did you switch to the OTHER la team???
Should have stayed In san Diego
Idk I just watched the whole video and I'm not so sure
They tried
If we were in SD when we went 12-4 the fans would have started to go the games and who knows, we could have had a better record and seeding if we actually had a home field
Dean should have sold the team
Fuck you spanos
I wish I could just laugh at the chargers like everyone else can but being from San Diego, it just hurts
Bro straight up 😂😭😭
I'm not even from San Diego and it hurts, especially when I could have chosen the Broncos instead!
I was crushed when the Browns left CLE. Other than the Browns my favorite football team has always been the San Diego Chargers, going way back to the Air Coryell days. I lived in SD for a year and my brother calls it home. My favorite place in the world is Torrey Pines. This is my roundabout way of saying, "I feel your pain." Everybody (except Roger Goodell, apparently) knows LA cannot support two football teams(or even one). Would you take the Chargers back when they decide to "bolt" again? Or how about the Orange County Chargers?
@@lusiphur0679 No. Not unless they changed ownership. Even then, I may not. I have not seen an NFL game since the move.
being from san diego i can tell you it doesnt hurt lol. if anything it feels good. fuck spanos
You crushed the writing and mic drop story telling. Always return right where you started.
10:34 Zlatan is so powerful he even gets in a video about American football
Keegan Dutto no actually the clip about American football sneaks into the Zlatan video
It's Zlatan's world, my friend. We all just live in it.
That shot was better than any Rivers throw last season.
@@askmemum Hahahah. Thats good...
Zlatan the God.
I’m a Sonics. My heart goes out to you San Diego.
Me too, at least we still have the Hawks & the Mariners. Go Hawks
At least the Seattle SuperSonics will return in 2022...
As a Portland Blazers fan I was also so freaking sad when the Sonics were shipped out. I really cannot wait until you guys get a team again and reignite that local rivalry that we all grew up with in the NorthWest!
@@georgiosioannispappas Wait, they will?
@@rajkaranvirk7525 Pushed back to whenever that new stadium in Seattle opens.
I didn’t know anything about football until I travelled to Southern California back in 2008 when I was living in Europe . We were in San Diego during late August and some friends of mine who lived wanted me to experience football and I attended a preseason game . From there I got involved into football to the point to watch every game pretty much and even play Fantasy football . I of course chose to support the Chargers cause they were the first team I watched and knew anything about . I then moved to SD in 2011 and watched as many live games as possible . I was super bummed when this move to LA happened . There was such a nice atmosphere at Qualcomm . Watching Rivers LT Gates playing was a blast . I must say there were quite a lot supporters for the opposite teams ( especially teams with lots of following like Steelers or raiders or cowboys or broncos or 49ers), but it was never a full stadium filled by opposite supporters like the stub hub , I would say when it was really really bad it was a 60-40 for chargers fans , but other than those games usually 80% where chargers fans . I will never understand this decision and hope they can come back in the future somehow , but not matter what I will still support them
The one good thing about LA getting the Chargers is that now there’s a guaranteed Raider game in LA every year🤷🏼♂️😂
Factz
Lol
ALF Raydough I went to the chargers raiders game in LA (I’m a Chargers fan for god knows what reason) and there were 80% raiders fans. Most were super nice but almost got into a fight about 3 mins into the game for standing to cheer for the home team hahahah
I honestly don’t understand why the NFL let the Chargers move to LA instead of the Raiders. I’m for the Raiders staying in Oakland but they would have much more success in LA than the Chargers.
@ALF Raydough I REMEMBER in 1993 when the raiders played the dallas cowboys in front of 90,000 plus fans!! 70,000 fans WERE ROOTING FOR THE DALLAS COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1/3 of the raiders fans that showed up in the la memorial coliseum in general came from the east bay ( oakland) via united express flights or a 5 to 6 hour drive and 15% of the raiders fans were THE LOCAL AREA PEOPLE who lived around the stadium!!!!!!!!!!!!la IS STILL A RAMS TOWN but you have many "transplanted people" from the midwest,some from new york and new england area and over the last 15 years a nice influx from all over the pennsylvania area particularly philadelphia!!!!!!!!!!! moving to las vegas is a great move for the raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!1the chargers should be back in san diego and the rams do belong in LA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!..........thank god for directv compared to the mid 1990's when directv was in its infancy!!!!!!! the rams already have 65,000 season ticket holders!!!!!!!!!!!!
"everyone hates it and its canned within the day"
wish the rams had the same typa logic ;/
I dont rlly like the logo but there uniforms looknice
I might be the only guy who doesn't mind the rebrand. I would like a logo with an actual ram in it but those uniforms are straight fire. I have no idea why everyone's dissing on em.
the rams logo is misunderstood imo
It honestly makes me so happy to see ads in quality creators videos . Like this dude gives so much free content to the world and gives so much effort to create it . It makes me happy to know that he gets paid .
I love the chargers but i don’t like Spanos at all
Literally ever Chargers fan
Same
NOBODY likes Spanos, the assclown is the fuckin Antichrist.
If you support the team then you’re supporting the owner.
As a San Diegan, this move still hurts me deeply. I just want to go back to having our consistently average team back at Qualcomm
They weren't always consistently average 😭, remember how easy the division was in the days of LT
@@tomrod1949 late 2000s, top of the AFC
@C R Padres are fucking dope this year and have an exciting young team,.. just need pitchers
@C R Padres are on fire and will continue the momentum next year, but a reminder that it’s been 14 years since they even made it to the playoffs prior to this season. Trust I still love them but they ain’t no Dodgers 🤣
@@colbybeltz8836 obligatory fuck the dodgers
I have been a fan of the Chargers my whole life, and I’ve hated the Spanos family my whole life
1:27 Phillip Rivers signing a sign that says Spanos ❤️💵
Must be the coolest autograph ever
BAMF
That says volumes!
Should have just used the 650M to renovate their stadium
Exactly dude. If Spanos had put that money towards a stadium in SD I’m sure a deal could have been done.
That stadium needed more than $650M to bring it up to date.
I wondered about that too, especially as the NFL offered them 300million to stay too but I think its because Spanner doesnt have to pay 650million in one go, just over a ten year period.
@@tsu8003 The city would've given him a sweetheart loan on that so he would've have to put it all up front. The dude wanted to spend nothing or go to LA.
@@thedoughnutsayshello But he's having to pay 650million for absolutely nothing! He will never see a return on that whatsoever.
Oh, that Eagles game in Week 4 of 2017 was glorious! To see the entire stadium bathed in midnight green, to hear the Chargers being booed as they ran onto their own field, to know that there were likely more third-team fans at that game than Chargers fans...but of course, none of that matters to Spanos, because the Eagles fans wound up lining his pockets that week.
So sad seeing my dad who was a lifelong chargers fan, want nothing to do with them and absolutely despise the team 😔
I was done after hearing those 30 seconds of hysterical laughter. Dean Spanos clearly underestimated the Los Angeles sports market.
He did make a few hundred million though
*overestimated
Richard Leano only to pay it in relocation fees
@@UnitardZZack Thanks for the correction.
My friend was a massive chargers fan (he was born in San Diego, before both him and the team moved) he stuck by them through it all but he was finally broken by the Pats game.
How does he feel now with Justin Herbert?
@@fuccckckkkkckkck still broken
I’m a DIE HARD Bronco fan but this is just depressing... we all knew the Chargers were a mess, but damn. Your worse than the ASPCA.
I’m pretty sure if I lived in San Diego and was a SD Chargers fan, id just stop watching football all together when they moved
Lol that is exactly what my father in-law did. He used to be a season ticket holder for 25 years. Now he just golfs on Sunday
You do definitely see that football is only about dollar signs. Not about the fans. Im still a fan. Might wear a hat. But im never buying anything like merchandise or tickets again. They got alot of money from me as a season ticket holder. Parking, tailgates every.single.game... the bbqs, the jerseys... but they pissed us all away like that.
That’s what I did. Had season tickets from 2006-2015.
Well bro we have similarities.
And that is exactly what we did.
Idgaf, I’m still calling them the San Diego Chargers
NFL needs to kick out spanos and relocate the team back to SD
Problem is : even if Spanos gets the boot, would San Diego take the team back?
W/o Spanos I would bet the fans in SD would be excited and willing to take them back.
@@alcide1537 yes they would they just hate spannos
@@paulgrieshop5024 as a charger fan, I've still been loyal to my team, but can't stand helping out spanos. Voting for colts over chargers next year; wan't rivers to get that ring.
@@sellfone1913 I don't blame you I am a Raiders fan and I was at a game a few years ago and the fans in Oakland said Mark Davis thinks he is going to get 30,000 of us to come to Vegas every week he has another thing coming. He should have sold the team to Larry Ellison who owns Oracle he has the money and political pull to build a new stadium in Oakland but you know you can't fix stupid like Dean and Mark
Can you make a similar video about how Kroenke screwed the Rams in St. Louis? A lot of people to this day think it was St. Louis’ fault, but it was absolutely Kroenke
It was totally kroenke u could tell he was tanking the team so as soon as they arrived to LA they could explode onto the scene and get a bunch of bandwagons, and it worked
Aiden Deim You’re absolutely correct. Kroenke had already decided 15 years ago that he was going to move the team to LA when the lease ended regardless of the new stadium proposal, the teams success, or attendance
@@boyderv2317 Kroenke decided to move a team that was moved from LA back to LA. The Rams move doesn't bug me. If they moved to Las Vegas I would feel bad about it, but they moved back to LA. Fan apathy is a problem but I don't find it to be as offensive of a move.
Well Kroenke righted a wrong with another wrong. I’m a current Los Angeles rams fan, I’ve been a fan since 2008. In reality Kroenke’s decision is charity compared to how Georgia Frontiere fucked LA over. Kroenke and Frontiere ironically both have strongarmed a death in their business history, but Frontiere’s was deliberate while Kroenke merely just bought out a chunk of land and the pending infrastructure drove a nearby neighbor to suicide. Frontiere actually had mob ties and evidence of a committed murder on Carroll Rosenbloom who was an Olympic gold medal swimmer. Georgia bullied the shit outta networks and the Anaheim stadium staff to the point that their games were regularly blacked out and she ended up alienating the historically strong Los Angeles fanbase they once had in the 1960s and 70s. By that point her ties to the mob and lack of ambition for any real tie to The Southern California or any desire to bring jobs in construction for a new stadium. Kroenke merely had gotten the reigns to a team Georgia nearly destroyed and had very few options left. The stadium was a dump, the city was clearly uninterested in the rams franchise as a whole. They only recorded 2 sell out games during their tenure in St Louis, they’ve recorded 7 since they moved back to LA. Kroenke didn’t exactly leave on a great note, I agree. But he had no other choice and he’s by far not as horrible of an owner as his Predecessor.
Alex Moreno The only problem is Kroenke illegally broke relocation rules, and the city had a stadium plan ready, but Kroenke denied that. Also, the Rams had 95 straight sellout games from 1999-2006, not 2
It's 4 years later from time this video was posted, 2024. I'm almost 58 and I grew up in San Diego but live further north now closer to LA. I have been a Chargers fan since 1972. This coming season the Chargers have taken a bold leap of faith in hiring Jim Harbaugh, as the head coach who won the National Championship for Michigan. He was once a QB for the Chargers. The new Sophi stadium is built and still brings in the bulk of other teams fans. I am a Chargers fan and with stick with my Bolts til I drop dead. This year is the year things are going to change. I have always said they will arrive and when they do their fan base will grow because human beings are fickle creatures. If they had won a Superbowl all the years that they were in San Diego they would still be there. Nevertheless, they are my team through all the disappointing seasons. Go Bolts.
I always said if the chargers really wanted to move: they should’ve gone to Vegas and raiders to LA.
The NFL and kroenke knew that the Raiders would overshadow the Rams instantly. They put a stop to it, it was real greaseball s***. Not as greaseball as the teams leaving their towns but still greaseball
Hmm good point! Never really looked at it that way.
They wouldve retained a majority of their fanbase. The NFL and Spanos underestimated San Diegos hatred of LA. I mean I had signs, Beat LA!! They would give them out... now they're moving there? Forget that.
To quote Nick Canepa (a sportswriter for the Union Tribune, San Diego's paper): "The Rams should change the name of the stadium to HOME OF THE RAMS, ETC."
Nick is a funny guy. Hates Spanos
To be fair both teams don't have a large fam base. Pretty sure LA is raider nation for the most part anyways. Basically when Raiders play Chargers or Rams in LA it is home field advantage. Basically Raiders have two home games against chargers.
As a San Diegian, the reasons I voted against the stadium were:
1 - The Spanos family weren't willing to put in a single dollar ($0) towards the stadium. They were adamant on that. Either we pay for it all or they were leaving.
2 - They wanted to put the stadium in downtown SD, and add ZERO additional parking or give money towards expanding the trolley system downtown to service the stadium.
3 - Padres stadium is already downtown SD, and having 2 stadiums downtown would have been just too much. The proposed site was only a few blocks from the Padres
4 - The city offered various other locations in SD, but Spanos ONLY wanted it downtown. He caught 'Jerry Jones-itis' and wanted a monument built to his 'greatness'.
We called his bluff, and he pouted like the little punk he is and took his ball and left.
It’s sad when Spanos pisses away history of a historical team: Fouts, the miracle ‘94 team, LT, Brees, Rivers, Antonio Gates. It’s like you put trust in a loyal fan base and you give them a giant middle finger
Spanos doesn't care about the Chargers, all he cares about is the kudos of being an NFL team owner.
@David Hayes Alworth played just during the Hilton era though.
Seau, one of the best defense players in chargers history. The one time the chargers appeared in Super Bowl XXIX.
16:09 LA actually has two MLS teams, LA Galaxy and LAFC. Both teams who sell better in LA than the Chargers 😂
And 2 baseball teams
And a Hockey team, and two NBA teams, as well as the LV Raiders, and the Sacramento Kings.. And EVERY ONE OF THEM sell better than the Chargers. Even the frigging Clippers sell better than them as far as LA goes, even though the Raiders and the NBA Kings aren't even in LA. FUCK YOU DEAN SPANOS.
@@mcray0309 FUCK NO. LA has ONLY ONE baseball team. R u blind or something
@@johncharlie3919 yes but no. Anaheim is more LA, than Arlington is Dallas. And Cowboys are still Dallas.
Eh on baseball teams… Arte just changed the name to make more money.
Such a good video. Native San Diegan here, and lifelong San Diego Chargers Fan and 10 yr+ Season Ticket Holder....in San Diego. San Diego had numerous proposals and offerings to the Chargers to assist in developing a new stadium, but if it wasn't FULLY PAID for by the City, Dean would thumb his nose at it. Let some real Billionaire, like Jeff Bezos or Joseph Tsai buy the team, and build a stadium in San Diego, so they can come back.
I honestly think it's sad that a team with no fans in a bigger city gets more valuable just because of the TV rights.
Actually, the two times I attended games at Qualcomm Stadium, I loved it. There wasn't a bad seat anywhere. No issues with anything with the stadium except the traffic getting there.
That was just you
I lived in San Diego and hate the fact that the Chargers are no longer in SD. Great Content sir.
Dean “The Lord of No Rings” Spanos.
I still smile at that nickname for him
That was former GM AJ Smith's nickname.
I swear to god if the jags move to London I’m going to be mad af
that'd be cool
rod. I hate playing in London
@@natefrazer8231 you won't be getting much playing time after lawrence gets drafted
rod. Ok man keep on believing that I’m not going 12-4
Don’t worry, the NFL won’t ever relocate internationally. Even though there are some international fans, the NFL will make far more money by having teams exclusively in the states
I like your Introduction to your add. In fact, I think reminding people that you’re not rich and have to pay rent is the best introduction to a commercial. I respect it.
There is a special place in hell for billionaires who reach into public funds.
@MARK DAVIS
Lots of fan bases vote and choose to fund stadiums. The people of San Diego did not. I went to a game in the Chargers’ final year there and the Stadium was an absolute dump. I’m from Michigan and the old Silver Dome that the Lions played in that was demolished years ago was 100 times nicer. If the residents of San Diego didn’t want to kick in like other fan bases do, then they don’t get to have a team. It’s just the way of the world. So cry in your coffee.
Clay, you have no clue what you’re talking about, by the time that vote came up the Chargers were already moving and everybody knew it, they already been given the option by the NFL. The Chargers had been trying to get a new stadium in San Diego for years, at least as early as 2002, but the city never wanted to work with them until relocation became a real possibility and by that time it was too late because the Chargers had already decided to move.
@@Jmmoffa @Joe Maffa - You may be right. I’m not from San Diego. But... If I’m wrong, then so were all of the former Chargers that gave half time speeches, at the game I attended, and they were imploring the fans to vote. Dan Fouts, Ladanian Tomlinson, Kellen Winslow, John Carnie and other living Charger legends were there. I wished Jr. Seau hadn’t passed 4 years earlier. The exact game was in November of 2016 against the Tennessee Titans. The Charger legends were all asking for the vote for funding for the new stadium which would keep the Chargers in San Diego. If I’m not mistaken, they were all saying that it would only cost every San Diego household .09 cents per month or something ridiculously nominal. I could remember thinking to myself: “Damn, I don’t even have an NFL team in my city, and I’d be willing to pay a hell of a lot more than that in taxes just to have one.”. But apparently even the old Charger legends had no idea what they were talking about any more than I did... You said it though. Maybe I’m as wrong as those guys were, and you had it all figured out the whole time... Damn! Check out the big brain on Joe!
Clay, Mocking me doesn’t make you right, do you really think Spanos cared anybody the fans at all, he couldn’t care less. He wasn’t going to miss the opportunity get a new stadium guaranteed in 3 years because if they didn’t move to LA after that season the Raiders would have. Even ESPN was saying that the vote was pointless because the Chargers already had the option to move to LA and that Spanos wanted to move and that he had already moved there. He just let everybody believe he would stay in San Diego if the vote passed, but had no intention of staying and of most of us knew that. Look what happened in St. Louis, they approved a $150 million for a new stadium to built near the river and the Rams still left, it’s doesn’t matter to the owners what the city or the fans want, if they want to leave they will.
Rivers a savage for signing that anti-Spanos sign lol
My team loses a lot but I couldn’t imagine losing them to another city I feel bad for the San Diego fans
I used to be such a huge chargers fan before Dean Spanos burned all of their fans
So true
New owner anyone?
16:10 You named 6 whole professional sports teams and still missed the LA Angles and LAFC😭😭
Chargers never stood a chance
THE PUNISHER Angles? Don’t you mean Angels?
@@ZachNarwhal what are you, being obtuse?
The LA Angels, AKA The Anaheim Angels of California of Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
and the Anaheim ducks since anaheim is a suburb of LA
Charles aight fair play
moving to a city that’s primarily fans of your rival in the raiders and to do it a year after the team that used to play there… moved back there…. just a horrendous move
It baffles my mind that the Chargers value went up when they sell tickets like they're a US rugby team.
Lol stock market is base on projection and estimation, so neither the la market are so big they can afford 3 NFL steam or when reality hit the charge have to move some were else again, I hope is not Texas (second largest football market) or England
Ultimately the value of something is only what another person is willing to pay. I could claim my house is valued at 10 million dollars, but if the best offer is 275k...that is the real value. So sure, on paper the Chargers are worth more, but I can't imagine them selling for as much as other franchises given they have a dwindling fanbase and not even their own stadium.
Let’s be real, they’ll move back to San Diego after Spanos sells the team when their value finally starts cratering in
@@khanhnguyen-tt3ff I personally want them to stay in LA, but I do love London and that would be cool for them to have the NFL market if an entire country.
Did you see the ticket prices!? And the 100 dollar parking price!? That in my opinion is the number one reason why there weren't that many fans. It was too fucking expensive! I looked because I wanted to go! Was too much of a headache. They were mainly premium seating prices. I looked at the new stadium prices and they are more normal. The reason all those Steeler and chief fans were there because it was more than just going to a game, it was their damn " let's go to the southern California beach getaway weekend." Which tbh, that's how you do it. Whenever I go on vacation to a city, I'm already spending a grip, so I might as well go all out for the best time and I buy tickets to a concert or something as well.
I miss my Chargers in SD....
At least you can still support the team. They stayed in the same state
@@chucho35pewdsmiester78 I don’t think that’s the problem, people just don’t want to support Spanos, if they got a competent owner, I’m sure they wouldn’t mind making a drive out to LA to watch their games.
@@OfficialChrisW Or move them back to San Diego with this new owner
The Chargers are ghost in San Diego. A faded lightning bolt on back of a car. A homeless person wearing a LT jersey. Old Bud Light Neon Charger signs collect dust in bars. Theres no LA Charger fans here, just SD fans without a team.
This is deep....
This hurts. And is too true
This is true. I still see San Diego Chargers plate holders with no paint.
As someone who was born & raised in San Diego, thank you so much for making this video!
First off, I want to say that growing up, my three favorite teams (starting in 2003) were the Raiders, Niners, and Patriots in that order. I stopped supporting the Raiders after they traded Khalil Mack. It was clear at that point that they were focusing on success in Vegas instead of a final ride in Oakland. Once the Raiders detached from the Bay Area, so did my fandom with them. The Niners are now my favorite team, with the Patriots being #2.
Yet I get a ton of flack for no longer supporting the Raiders. If the Chargers lose fans from San Diego and the Rams lose fans from St. Louis, why is the Raiders losing fans from Oakland any different? This video encapsulated San Diego's anger with the Chargers. I lived in St. Louis for 2 years, and you hardly saw Rams gear.
The OWNER FUCKED YOU, NOT THE TEAM
How can you support 3 teams man, maybe that's why you're getting flack
@@justbecause7402 it's all commerce at the end of the day. You can root for whoever you want. I root for the Eagles and the Texans, and no one gives me any flack for supporting multiple teams
The Raiders are the only team to Jump City to City to City because they hate their fans and that's it right now
Who’s here after the Chargers blew a 27 point lead against the Jaguars?
let’s goooo
I hope that the LA Chargers fail to play good football and are a complete and utter financial disaster to the point Spanos is forced to sell them to someone with more sense and dignity
Amen.
me too
Fuck nooo let’s gooo Los Angeles Chargers!!! ⚡️🏈
Isn't there a rule that you can't sell a team after you move? I wonder how long they have to wait.
Why would any owner stay in a city that has not built a stadium in 50 years?
Pains me to here this as a chargers fam
You know the other 5?
°High.OFWG° dam bro this joke is super original and funny first time hearing it
@@mattsponhour ik right?
Chris Playsmut I’ve met so many chargers fans online, people act like just because they barley have any fans in LA Dosent mean they still have a large following in SD
@@cadencenation4600when they were in SD they were terrifying during home games
Here's a good question. How long will the value of the team stay as high as it is if their stadium is barely half (if even that) full, and the vast majority of the seats that *are* filled are *not* for that team? The value is based on how much it is believed ownership of that team will generate *in the future* (through ticket sales, merchandise, viewership, and of course, sponsorships to capitalize on that fan support)? If it becomes blatantly obvious there is *no one* interested in that team, not to buy tickets, buy merchandise, or even watch their games on TV, how long before it becomes obvious there is *much less* money to be made from owning that team than originally expected, and the value of that team *completely* craters?
Seriously, this feels like a bubble! How long before this bubble bursts? What is keeping the valuation of the team so high when there is virtually no one watching the team (in person or on TV) and no one buying its merchandise?
The NFL TV revenue pie is divided equally. The Chargers get the same amount just like any other team.
Always the San Diego Super Chargers in my heart
Can we just talk about how LA is the bastion of stolen teams? They have:
The Lakers from Minneapolis
The Clippers from San Diego
The Dodgers from Brooklyn
The Rams from St. Louis
and, of course, the Chargers from San Diego
That leaves them with the Kings and Galaxy for actual native LA teams. They did have the Wildcats, but the XFL folded so it doesn't matter
Rohin Kartik-Narayan LA is a pathetic sports town
@@SharksSJ408 Dodgers, Lakers, USC and UCLA have loyal fans
@@richardleano583 Bruh have you seen attendance at UCLA games?? Lakers games were hella empty before they got LeBron too
Don't forget the Anaheim Ducks (Anaheim is part of the LA metro area) and Los Angeles FC as teams originating from LA
You do realize lots of teams with loyal fan bases have “stolen” teams. Chiefs started in Dallas, Ravens in Cleveland, colts in Baltimore, Yankees from Baltimore, Braves from Boston then to Milwaukee and many more.
Anaheim is close enough to say that LA area has 2 NHL teams (Ducks ) and 2 MLB teams (Angels). And this article from Wikipedia states there are 2 MLS teams too en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_in_Los_Angeles. So, count them; 2 NBA, 2 NHL, 2 MLB, 2 MLS, 2 NFL teams. Yes, "Beyond Sensible.."
I was at that home opener in LA as a dolphins fan 😂😂😂
I had thought it was a Miami home game held at a neutral site.
omg another fins fan feels good knowing we actually have those
I’m Eagles fan and remember watching the game in LA and the announcers saying “is this a home game for Philly?”
I think the window is too late for the Chargers. The Rams moving to LA and then their Super Bowl appearance seems to have won over the city. Heck, the Rams WERE LA's team for decades, so little chance of even getting older folks to support the Chargers. LA already has two pro baseball and two pro basketball teams, one NFL team is all that can fit in that market I feel.
@@thunderbird1921 exactly, and even then I'm not really sure LA is still getting love there, even after their SB win. I'm sure people wanted the Raiders back, you wouldve had a whole different reaction IMHO
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As a Bills fan and remembering the time when we were possibly relocating to fckn Toronto for a few years, I can empathize with the San Diego Chargers *BELONGING* in San Diego! The teams are synonymous with the city they play in! Always respected the San Diego Chargers and I will refuse to call them anything else than ..the San Diego Chargers. Same feeling goes for the Oakland Raiders, too in fact.
Well, the Clippers moved from San Diego to LA in the 80’s. 40 years from now, no one will care that the Chargers left
I live in SD and I was sad when the left 😔
Noah Remnek I hear ya brother 😭
I couldn’t imagine losing my home city’s sports franchise
@@UN4SS1GN3D im kinda glad being a detroit fan only for that reason. i know none of the 4 sport teams will ever move, but then agian, all 4 teams suck
Blame the city
@@cj1884 did you even watch the video lol
They’re gonna need a lot of banners covering the top 2 rows of seats in the new stadium...
I just subscribed. I had to. That was some damn good writing with a crazy awesome call back. I also thought the video was well edited. I think I am going to be a big fan of this channel. Thanks for the content.
Chargers fan here: sell the team, Spanos!
It would be irony if Nicky & Barron Hilton bought the team and they'd be back to square one!
So I'm a K.C. fan...it really was/is a sad day in the NFL. San Diego is Chargers football. It's worry you feel (as a fan of K.C.) Like: is Rivers gonna be good today or implode? It's the rivalry. Always fighting for the #1 spot. To take them outta Diego is a suck ass decision.
Great video. Growing up a Chargers fan in San Diego. It was mind blowing to see the Spanos actually move the team especially in the way they did it. Unforgivable and cruel for the fans of the Chargers. But now that Rivers is gone I cut all ties to Dean Judas Spanos and his joke of a team in Los Angeles.
So long as Spanos owns the Chargers and keeps the helmetless limp Bolt as the team logo, THEY ARE CURSED. As a San Diego Charger fan, the spectacular losses are quite entertaining. They no longer represent my hometown. I don't care if they go 2-16, as long as they beat the Raiders twice. If the Chargers are irrelevent, I don't even follow the NFL. I go surfing.
Really well done video! These NFL mini-docs are getting me through quarantine
This is so sad. I am from Italy and I started watching football around 2007/2008 and with LT, Rivers, Gates, Cromartie, the Chargers became one of my favorite team. It's so sad to see them become so irrelevant, with no fans, playing in a tiny stadium filled with fans of other teams. I think greed is what eventually is going to ruin the NFL. Other historical teams in small markets, like the Bills and the Bengals seem to be destined for a similar future. And it sucks. No respect for the fan base and the history of the league
I'd also like to point out that Spanos specifically wanted to build his new stadium in downtown San Diego. Like many San Diegans, I wanted the Chargers to stay... but I didn't want downtown San Diego to be blighted by an enormous football parking lot that will be empty 350 days out of the year. That was a big reason why I voted against his stadium.
16:07(correction) Basketball: Lakers-Clippers
Hockey: Kings-Ducks
Baseball: Dodgers-Angels
Soccer: Galaxy- LA FC
Football: Rams-Chargers. Yeah SoCal is crowded enough, I know
For football its Raiders-Rams. Chargers are an afterthought.
A wise tree once said, "Chinga tu madre, Spanos".
Dean Spanos: How can I piss off my fans today? Oh yeah, move to Los Angeles for basically no reason!
As a Broncos fan from a small SoCal town, I loved watching Broncos vs Chargers in SD. I will never pay to watch that same matchup in LA. I would rather make the trip to Denver. Sorry for your loss Bolts fans.
Spanos made the fatal calculation the Chargers would lose about two-thirds their San Diego fan base, and pick up twice that in LA and Orange County. What actually happened was they lost 90% of their San Diego fan base, and the fans they kept were largely fans who already lived somewhere other than San Diego. Spanos somehow forgot San Diegans HATE Los Angeles. It would be like an owner moving the Red Sox to New York, and expecting Boston fans will continue to root for them.
Spot on! Most of the fans I saw wanting the move were not from San Diego. They were from other parts of the country and became Chagers fans not because of their connection with San Diego. They had no idea how San Diego fans view Los Angeles.
Drew Brees started his career in San Diego in 2001 but after he injured his shoulder, the Chargers did not believe he would completely recover and released him in 2006. And even though that decision was understandable at the time, I'm sure Chargers fans today can't help but wonder what could have been if Brees had not suffered that injury OR the Chargers had not given up on him. It must have sucked being a Chargers fan when Brees led the Saints to a Super Bowl win in 2010. I'm sure many of them were thinking, "Damn, that could have been us!"
I hope Dean Spanos sells the team. He is a disgrace as an owner
97RAVINEAVE plenty available lorenzo fertitta but he is involved in s gamblinng business and they will never allow him to own a team
As a Chargers fan who lives in LA, I hated when they moved up here. They became the clippers of the NFL (ringless organization sharing a stadium with a successful past.) But then seeing the shit show fiasco of how our fanbase was outnumbered by the opposing team and the sight of empty seats was devastating. However one thing people forget is how San Diego treated their team, drove down to many games, my last one was LT Jersey retirement against the Chiefs. It was heartbreaking for me seeing the good amount of empty seats and numerous Chief jerseys for a franchise and hometown hero. How can you be upset for the owner moving the team when the city didn't fully support them.
As for the people who don't live in southern Cali, let me just say, LA is a Dodgers and Lakers town! Those two franchises have a loyal fanbase in LA and surrounding counties that can't be untouch. Even USC football could sell out the Coliseum better than the Rams, due to their longevity and successful history. As far for NFL teams, you could find any fan of whatever you can think of, but the big fav five fanbases here are Raiders, Cowboys, 9ers, Packers and Steelers. Any of those teams play in LA, best believe their fanbase is showing and outnumbering either LA team.
As a San Diegan this caused a little depression in my heart):
Sometimes I forget this channel exists and it's a pleasant surprise when he uploads
I just hope we do good here from here on out and I wish we were still San Diego I miss the fans we had
Coincidently the Los Angeles Clippers also relocated from San Diego.
And the Houston Rockets.
Clippers were originally from Buffalo.
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