The Art Of The Choke: How The Los Angeles Chargers Became The Most Miserable Franchise In The NFL...

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @tubfrog
    @tubfrog  Год назад +32

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    • @thetinman9124
      @thetinman9124 Год назад +1

      you can tho

    • @ImGoingSupersonic
      @ImGoingSupersonic Год назад +3

      Tom Brady tape isn't obnoxious enough yet bro. 😂😂😂

    • @VidaBlue317
      @VidaBlue317 Год назад +1

      I thought this was gonna be about artichokes...
      I'm disappointed

    • @jushiesty3029
      @jushiesty3029 Год назад

      Can you do the 1980-13 Raiders as a Prequel to your Derek Carr video

    • @deanspanos8210
      @deanspanos8210 Год назад +1

      ......

  • @mvpg1344
    @mvpg1344 Год назад +617

    As a Chargers fan, I’ve learned a very good life skill that I am never hurt when I’m let down by anybody.

    • @gv1071
      @gv1071 Год назад +14

      That's a lot of words for saying:
      "I'm a choking loser."
      😂😂😂

    • @bighomiechanga9972
      @bighomiechanga9972 Год назад +37

      @@gv1071I’m sure mvpg was on the field during all of these charger chokes

    • @gv1071
      @gv1071 Год назад +3

      @@bighomiechanga9972 Did I specify what he was choking on?
      🤣🤣🤣

    • @bighomiechanga9972
      @bighomiechanga9972 Год назад

      @@gv1071 that seems a very stupid cop out to cover the fact that your original statement was incredibly stupid, I would suggest an immediate deletion to protect your public image, in case future employers mistake you for a retard

    • @Jumpforce21
      @Jumpforce21 Год назад +10

      Me as an Arizona Cardinals fan// I feel your pain 😭🤣

  • @nathanlarson6535
    @nathanlarson6535 Год назад +188

    59:25 Another thing that should be mentioned is that while Junior Seau's death is tragic and heartbreaking, he wasn't the only one. In fact, at least *NINE* players from the 1994 Chargers team that made it to the Super Bowl have passed away via absolutely bizarre circumstances or tragically died much younger than expected. Eight of the nine players died before they would've been 45 years old.
    Here are all of the players who have passed away so far:
    • Linebacker David Griggs, who died in a single-vehicle car accident in Florida in 1995 (just five months after Super Bowl 29). He was 28 years old.
    • Running back Rodney Culver, in 1996 he and his wife were on a flight that crashed in the Florida Everglades and killed all 110 people aboard. He was 26 years old.
    • Linebacker Doug Miller, who died in 1998 because he was struck by lightning *TWICE* while camping in Colorado. He was 29 years old.
    • Center Curtis Whitley, who died of a drug overdose in his trailer home in 2008. He passed away just one day after his 39th birthday.
    • Defensive end Chris Mims, who was found dead in his apartment in 2008 and was believed to have died of cardiac arrest due to an enlarged heart. He weighed 456 pounds when he died at just 38 years old.
    • Defensive tackle Shawn Lee, who died of cardiac arrest resulting from double pneuonia (he was also a diabetic). In 2011 he passed away at just 44 years old.
    • Linebacker Lewis Bush, who passed away from a heart attack in 2011. He was just 42 years old.
    • Linebacker Junior Seau, who committed suicide in 2012 at just 43 years old. He was the heart and soul of the Chargers throughout the 1990's and early 2000's and is probably the best player in franchise history. Most of these deaths are either linebackers or defensive linemen. Is that a coincidence? I'm not sure.
    • Center Courtney Hall, who passed away in 2021.
    There have been many chokes, collapses, and disappointments in Chargers history (seriously how did Marlon McCree fumble that ball?) but these tragedies have me 100% convinced that this team is truly cursed. God help this team.

    • @tubfrog
      @tubfrog  Год назад +58

      I did research on this too expect I didn’t really feel as if it fit with the video. An alarming amount of players from the Super Bowl 94 team are dead now which is obviously fucked. Thanks for sharing this tho I’m sure a ton of people will find it interesting

    • @georgepimentel3072
      @georgepimentel3072 11 месяцев назад +1

      HEY THEY DECIDED TO PLAY THE DANGEROUS GAME...THEY GOT PAID...THEIR CHOICE. MAYBE THE GAME SHOULD BE STOPPED/DISMISSED/ PROHIBITED... BUT THE MILLIONS THEY MAKE IS SO GREAT...

    • @qualicumjack3906
      @qualicumjack3906 10 месяцев назад +29

      @@georgepimentel3072
      That guy, everyone

    • @TheMoastWorst
      @TheMoastWorst 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@qualicumjack3906 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @marcrussell8593
      @marcrussell8593 9 месяцев назад

      @georgepimentel3072 Millions??? Oh, the players make Millions. The LEAGUE??? BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS of dollars. Especially that the National FIXball League has entered into an unholy alliance with all the Vegas-based booming agents: DraftKings, etc al.
      The National Fixball League l worships one thing- MONEY!!!

  • @sthomasond
    @sthomasond Год назад +111

    Philip Rivers is my first cousin. I was in 8th grade in 2006, and after watching him play on a very average college team for four years before being a backup for two, we were all so excited to see them be the best team the year he became the starter.
    I vividly remember being sick with the flu watching that patriots game, too cold to leave my blanket while the chargers tore out my heartstrings with some really dumb football.
    For fourteen years it was a few highs followed by very low lows.
    Happy for Philip though and he's enjoying the coaching life.
    I love all your videos, sir, and thank you for making this.

    • @leafinagust2775
      @leafinagust2775 Год назад +9

      Damn. If that’s true, that’s awesome. Philip was my childhood hero, it’s great to hear he’s enjoying life, and I’m sure the same can be said for everyone else who supports the Bolts.

    • @KGCMX
      @KGCMX Год назад +6

      I hope he makes his way into the pro scene as a coach. I'd love to see him in a Chargers polo on the sidelines!!!!!!!!

    • @LightiningHobo
      @LightiningHobo Год назад +3

      I hope he has enjoyed more time to spend with his kids once he's not in an all-consuming profession like the nfl

    • @MemphisMadeUs
      @MemphisMadeUs 11 месяцев назад +1

      Tell Phil to come coach the Chargers ‼️ please

    • @georgepimentel3072
      @georgepimentel3072 11 месяцев назад +1

      PHILLIP RIVERS HAD A FEMENINE TYPE OF THROWING THE BALL...BUT HE WAS GREAT DURING THE SEASON. THEN COME PLAYOFFS TIME LIKE HE GOT NERVOUS AND EITHER OVER THREW RECEIVERS OR THROW PASSES INTO THE GROWN MISSING RECEIVERS BY PLEANTY.
      THERE WAS ALSO A RIVALRY WITH HIM AND TOMLINSON. RIVERS WANTED THE PASS GAME AND TOMLINSON WANTED HIS RUN GAME...BUT I WAS GLAD THEY FAILED BECAUSE IN THOSE DAYS THEY USED TO BLOW UP THE RAIDERS LIKE 50 TO 10...OVER AND OVER AGAIN

  • @elnavales
    @elnavales Год назад +91

    You've heard the joke, "At my funeral, I want the Chargers to carry my coffin so that they can let me down one last time." As a San Diegan, I have literally been to funerals where the deceased actually requested everyone be in Chargers gear for that very reason. They're all yours now, LA.

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 Год назад +176

    Kid: Daddy, why are the Chargers so cursed?
    Dad: *Takes drag on Cigarette* It began with the treachery of Dean Spanos

    • @jchapman8248
      @jchapman8248 Год назад +12

      That treachery was well established when Gene Klein bought the Chargers before the Spanos era...sadly.

    • @Wolf_3125
      @Wolf_3125 Год назад +6

      ​@@jchapman8248Yeah, but mocking Spanos is just too much fun 😂😂

    • @kendallevans4079
      @kendallevans4079 Год назад

      Daddy Alex Spanos was more to blame IMO. Guy was a total arrogant ass hat.

    • @hankbunyon8654
      @hankbunyon8654 Год назад +3

      Ha, it started way before that

    • @SONICX1027
      @SONICX1027 9 месяцев назад

      In the immortal words of Urinatingtree, “Fuck You Spanos!”

  • @DrBeauHightower
    @DrBeauHightower 8 месяцев назад +18

    Was a die hard chargers fan since 86. Once they abandoned San Diego they were dead to me.

    • @Kafft
      @Kafft 7 месяцев назад +1

      I’m a chargers fan I just don’t watch them after the 2022 playoffs lol

  • @cameraboxer
    @cameraboxer Год назад +168

    as a charger fan for my entire life, looking up to LT and the contraception man himself Philip Rivers. I have felt pain more than most could see from football. and I guess I'm ready to relive it all again.

    • @atrusty9729
      @atrusty9729 Год назад +3

      Same here brother......'06 😢

    • @KGCMX
      @KGCMX Год назад +1

      If only I could be a casual Chargers fan that didn't just also absolutely LOVE football. It would really help the perennial heartache.

    • @jpmnky
      @jpmnky Год назад +2

      You guys had several legit contender seasons with those two. The 2006 divisional was tough to watch. And I had no dog in that fight.

    • @LightiningHobo
      @LightiningHobo Год назад

      @@jpmnky *Almost* half the teams don't have a superbowl. Being a contender is not so bad. It's the most some teams can have as a goal for their season. Years later, it's something we should celabrate instead of being a mark of shame and pain.

    • @strykerfielding3430
      @strykerfielding3430 Год назад

      Ahhhhhhhhh I love being a lions fan. Y'alls issue is expectation, if you just expect nothing then when you start 5-1 life feels gooood

  • @brandoncowan4422
    @brandoncowan4422 Год назад +407

    One of the worst choices the organization ever made was firing Marty Schotenhimer

    • @roseroselyne9045
      @roseroselyne9045 Год назад +3

      He was a choker that couldn't lead a team to a super bowl win

    • @Puvwilmo00
      @Puvwilmo00 Год назад +56

      @@roseroselyne9045idk, i think the “choker” label with Marty is a lil unwarranted. Whenever Marty’s team lost in the playoffs, more often than not, it was just bad luck or a random wave of bullshit beyond his control.

    • @LightiningHobo
      @LightiningHobo Год назад +16

      @@roseroselyne9045 You're a choker until you're not. And he still is the closest the organization got since. At this point you can't disprove it's the organization and not that coach who is the choker. And maybe they deserved each other.

    • @dnasty312
      @dnasty312 Год назад +38

      ​@@roseroselyne9045Did Marty engineer a 98½-yard drive to tie against his defense? Did Marty not do his blocking assignment on a draw play, resulting in a fumble? Did Marty miss three FGs at home? Did Marty not get down right away after what should have been a game-sealing INT?

    • @dnasty312
      @dnasty312 Год назад

      A.J. Smith is a nitwit

  • @BubbaTheHomie
    @BubbaTheHomie Год назад +39

    I have never seen that footage of Marty before the playoff game telling the DB's just to go down at the end of the game. I got chills. Truly one of the greatest football minds RIP Coach

    • @unicornsandrainbowsandchic2336
      @unicornsandrainbowsandchic2336 Год назад +7

      Firing Marty was criminal, especially with how fast he turned that team around.

    • @turtle19dad
      @turtle19dad Год назад +4

      @@unicornsandrainbowsandchic2336I think it was a beef between the GM and the Coach. Don’t forget, they lied to Drew Brees too. And he went on to win a SB.

    • @robertd.7060
      @robertd.7060 Год назад +7

      @@turtle19dad Bad news is . I think that is the ONLY way Herbert wins a RING , too ? They just can NOT keep a healthy team around him , even just for 1 year it LOOKS like ? Injuries is just killing this team again this year ? REFS & bad flag calls or lack of the calls are NOT helping with ALL these close games , either ? Now with this up coming weeks game With the Cowboys . WORST flag game I have seen VRS any team was that Dallas game a couple of years ago !

    • @turtle19dad
      @turtle19dad Год назад +1

      @@robertd.7060I remember well. I was at that game. Any time we did anything good there was a flag. Refs trying to protect their Cowgirls.

    • @LightiningHobo
      @LightiningHobo Год назад

      @@robertd.7060I don't want to push you off the edge of a cliff here... but, no matter what happens this year, be prepared for the possibility of the 5 bad years part of the chargers cycle. Half of the starters are not signed for next year and we may be firing the hc and GM. their official documentary is called all in. Next couple of years might look like rebuild years. dampen expectations and reduce emotional investment for a couple of years.

  • @hand_and_justin_entertainment
    @hand_and_justin_entertainment Год назад +74

    Thank you for making an hour-long video of my favorite team, reminding me that pain, inconsistency, and misery is all we are, and forever will be.

    • @OriginalOne1960
      @OriginalOne1960 Год назад +4

      The Chargers name and logo is a War Battle Horse “Charging”
      Into Battle.
      The proof is in the Horse SHIELD logo and the USC Charge!!!!! Chant.
      Barron Hilton explains the Origin in a 2009 Los Angeles Times interview and clearly states it had nothing to do with a credit card lmao 🤣
      The Los Angeles Chargers won the Western Division finishing with a 10-4 record and made it to the Championship game….
      Making it ti the Championship game the first season ever in Chargers history isn’t bad
      Now the lack of Success in SD was pretty bad BUT they r now back playing in the Original birthplace of L.A. city of Champions eventually they can and will win a Super Bowl in L.A. especially with young phenom franchise QB Justin Herbert.
      Let’s Go Los Angeles Battle Chargers!
      Da Da Dah Dah Da Da Charge!!!!!
      ⚡️🐴 🏈

    • @malcomlovejoy
      @malcomlovejoy 3 месяца назад

      Justin..Just .wait till THIS year

  • @maskedman5657
    @maskedman5657 Год назад +49

    OMG that 2006 season was just insane. That GM was on fire.

    • @turtle19dad
      @turtle19dad Год назад

      I was pissed about 2006. FU Marlon McCree!!!!😡😡😡😡

  • @TheMoastWorst
    @TheMoastWorst Год назад +97

    As a long time Chargers fan (until they left San Diego) I knew what to expect from the team Any year they were picked as a favorite to make the Super Bowl I KNEW that year would be a complete wash. They are not an organization that can handle high expecations.

    • @kaminsod4077
      @kaminsod4077 Год назад +15

      Being a chargers fan is a unique sort of agony. I still can't wrap my head around them not getting to the super bowl with Fouts, but making it with Stan Humphries.

    • @TheMoastWorst
      @TheMoastWorst Год назад +7

      @@kaminsod4077 the AFC championship was our Super Bowl that year. Nobody thought they were going to beat the 49ers. I just didn't want them to look bad in the loss ... that didn't end well.

    • @maskedman5657
      @maskedman5657 Год назад +2

      ​@@TheMoastWorstI mean Brandon Staley doesn't help

    • @TheMoastWorst
      @TheMoastWorst Год назад +7

      @@maskedman5657 I wouldn't know. I haven't followed the team since they left San Diego. Once I lost the team I grew up with my interest in the NFL declined. I still watch random NFL games here and there but nothing like when I had a "dog in the fight".

    • @maskedman5657
      @maskedman5657 Год назад +1

      @@TheMoastWorst I gotcha. Well if you come back you can always change teams

  • @barnabasseadog7660
    @barnabasseadog7660 Год назад +30

    From a long suffering San Diego Chargers fan, this is the best video about the cursed Bolts. A history lesson I have lived through in real time. They no longer represent my hometown and when the Chargers are irrelevant, I don't even pay attention to the NFL. So long as Spanos keeps his current logo, described as a rainbow, or a wet noodle, they will continue to be CURSED. Ya'lls BTFU, I'm going surfing.

  • @adamthespinygiant
    @adamthespinygiant Год назад +23

    As UrinatingTree would say: “F*** you, Spanos!!”

  • @bigk8210
    @bigk8210 Год назад +39

    I'm a Raiders fan. It still hurts that Junior could never win a ring. He and Dan Marino are just about tied for the most deserving player never to win a ring.

    • @KGCMX
      @KGCMX Год назад +9

      Dan Marino + Ladanian Tomlinson + Junior Seau + Philip Rivers + Antonio Gates + Barry Sanders + Calvin Johnson Jr = 0 super bowl rings

    • @kendallevans4079
      @kendallevans4079 Год назад

      @@KGCMX Sanders quit on the game, he's not worthy. Gates is a arrogant loud mouth and Tomlinson is full of himself too. The others? Ehhh... they made their millions

    • @joesakic91
      @joesakic91 Год назад

      ​@@KGCMXDon't forget Randy Moss.

    • @wanderer34
      @wanderer34 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@kendallevans4079 Barry didn't quit, he just lost passion for the game he used to love!!!

    • @Conker66
      @Conker66 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@kendallevans4079hating ass comment 😂😭
      So they don’t deserve anything because subjectively, somehow these men found a way to hurt your feelings. That’s crazy.
      You got to be a Raiders fan. S/o to y’all though 😂

  • @philipcaseyacalloway204
    @philipcaseyacalloway204 Год назад +19

    Listen bro. It take guts to watch this team for 20 years and still have hope.
    LT, Brees to Big Phil, and Malcom Floyd kept this fan happy for a long time.
    We’re in a new era again. It has and will be a very fun era.

    • @robertd.7060
      @robertd.7060 Год назад +3

      I'LL call your 20 years & raise you another 27 MORE years !

    • @Thunderalpacka223
      @Thunderalpacka223 Год назад

      ​@@robertd.7060I'll raise another 3 years to make it an even 50

    • @MarloSoBalJr
      @MarloSoBalJr Год назад

      ​@@Thunderalpacka223I'd bet my left scrotum that the Chargers win a Super Bowl 2027 😂🎉

    • @Thunderalpacka223
      @Thunderalpacka223 Год назад

      @@MarloSoBalJr Don't run when the debt collector comes for ya 😂

    • @GeneGarcia-uo2pn
      @GeneGarcia-uo2pn 11 месяцев назад

      Video great but I can go back more years with many more choke jobs in games!!!!

  • @willowrose9814
    @willowrose9814 Год назад +44

    As much as I know that my team is cursed, I love them too much to leave. Truly an abusive relationship.

  • @bobbybands1957
    @bobbybands1957 Год назад +16

    Them giving up on Drew Brees only added to their curse. Thankyou Chargers i live in New Orleans life long Saints fan here!👍

  • @jpmnky
    @jpmnky Год назад +5

    Man, I love it that a Gen Zer is so up to speed on the history of the NFL. Heck, the history of anything whatsoever. Glad to see your hard work is paying off. The channel is growing strong.

  • @Fino619sd
    @Fino619sd Год назад +10

    This is gold bro.. as a charger fan u hit it perfectly.. could not have put this together any better.. u broke it down exactly how it is being a fan and with all the facts

  • @Rowanravens5220
    @Rowanravens5220 Год назад +22

    Thank-you! My brother has just gotten into nfl. We live in New Zealand, he picked the chargers as his team and I couldn't think up or remember aaalllll of the things that sum up their history. So thank you for doing that for me 😂

    • @jojijoestar7233
      @jojijoestar7233 Год назад +3

      Hopefully your brother gets to see the Chargers win a ring because he’s going to be in for some suffering at this rate.

    • @juicediowaynekend5221
      @juicediowaynekend5221 Год назад

      I'm from NZ too except I'm a packers fan (been one since 2014)
      Good luck

  • @DJMidnight65
    @DJMidnight65 Год назад +26

    The LA Chargers A.K.A. the LA Clippers of football.
    The two teams could not be any more intertwined with each other.

    • @LightiningHobo
      @LightiningHobo Год назад +7

      The Rams winning the Superbowl soon after moving didn't help the Chargers becoming the other, less successful, team

  • @ogoakland5437
    @ogoakland5437 Год назад +18

    OMG … 😅 the time and research given to this Documentary! Thanks TubFrog.

  • @manzac112
    @manzac112 Год назад +43

    As a Vikings fan, it's a bleak existence. I pour out a drink to all Chargers fans.

  • @SmokeBurp
    @SmokeBurp Год назад +11

    My pops played for them in the 70's until the FBI showed up at our house and asked him about the drug abuse going on with his teammates. He got out of there fast after that. He really liked Fouts, Unitas, Mackay and Carl Mauch tho. There were some good people on the team.

  • @TheCountofToulouse
    @TheCountofToulouse Год назад +46

    I still can't believe the Chargers were forced out of San Diego. I mean, I get it, the Jets and Giants have a similar situation but San Diego is a great place and they had some really great fans, supporting them team every year, win or lose.

    • @johncreel5048
      @johncreel5048 Год назад +3

      What great fans? Even in San Diego, there were usually more visiting fans than home fans. Against the faiders, it could be as high as 80% Raiders fans.

    • @sttaylor215
      @sttaylor215 Год назад +7

      Forced out? Spanos was offered a sweet land deal for the Mission Valley location and he declined because their plan was always to move to Los Angeles. Remember they were going to build a stadium in Carson with the Raiders. They even had the land purchased

    • @kendallevans4079
      @kendallevans4079 Год назад +4

      @@johncreel5048 BS...I bet you never even went to any games. In the 80's it was nuts. The tailgating would start at 9am! Huge fan base. The Raider games were different, the Raider fans would bring their own violence down from Oakland for those games but all the others was pure Bolts

    • @djsjetsteve1
      @djsjetsteve1 11 месяцев назад

      @@kendallevans4079any time the Cowboys played the Chargers in San Diego it was at least 50/50 if not 60-40 Cowboys fans so the Raiders are not the only fans to take over that Stadium. Especially in the 90s

    • @kendallevans4079
      @kendallevans4079 11 месяцев назад

      @@djsjetsteve1 I'm talking 80's...Fouts era

  • @maskedman5657
    @maskedman5657 Год назад +11

    That story about Wade Philips spying on the Hand signals sounds so crazy to me 😂

  • @Starvin_Marvin138
    @Starvin_Marvin138 10 месяцев назад +4

    I'm a Rams fan, but during the LT/Rivers/Gates/Merriman teams until about 2013 I was always rooting for the Chargers. They were such a talented team that on any week could smoke someone or lose in heartbreaking fashion. I was in the Philippines in 2008 when they went on that streak and I got back the day after the last game of the season and got the first newspaper I could when we got back to a US airport and was stoked when I saw what they did to the Broncos. They had so much opportunity but were literally cursed. Just like Chargers teams now. I'll still pull for em because they're a talented team now too, but damn I feel bad true fans.

  • @turtle19dad
    @turtle19dad Год назад +7

    As a long time Chargers fan, we also had John Jefferson, Fred Dean, as well as Air Coryell. Then losing the 1980 AFC Championship game in 1980 at the Murph (to the Raidturds), then 81 in Cincinnati in the “Freezer Bowl.”

  • @bhaskin192
    @bhaskin192 Год назад +5

    the fact that this video is an only an hour long amazes me. we could be talking for days about our cursed ass franchise. at least we have cool jerseys tho

    • @MarloSoBalJr
      @MarloSoBalJr Год назад +2

      The jersey combos are the ONLY saving grace of this franchise

    • @malcomlovejoy
      @malcomlovejoy 3 месяца назад

      Hask, The COOLEST OF ALL

  • @DanielAranda-ct1jj
    @DanielAranda-ct1jj Год назад +6

    This year I have now been a Charger fan for 50 years, the fact that I am New Mexico and back in the 70's,all I could do was watch the scores as bottom of tv as we watched the Cowboys, Got 3 brother's all Cowboy fans.
    My teen years Coryell became coach and I was flying high with air Coryell. Though my heart was broken , never in my wildest dream 40 -44 ,years later would I have been told that we still be seeking are first super bowl win.
    I guess I become pretty good at knowing when the Chargers are going to blow it. When the Chargers we're up on Jaguar's with a big lead I knew I was in for a heart break, I actually turned off the TV cause I need they were going to loose ,and I could not take the heart break. If you know football you would of know this , I played ,and I remember playing a team that we could not stop.
    They kept turning ball over , I played defense, though we won after game I knew that team was better , players know ,
    With all that being said I love my team ,Though I never have watched them Play live which is a dream of mine since I was 10,(against Dallas if I had choice at home) some one help my dream come true. I can now watch them play every game.
    The worst way for us to loose in my opinion is when we loose cause of a coaching or a bad call by a ref.. The games that I know could go either way there tough on me ,the heartbreaks don't get any easier to take , there is no getting use to it. They actually get harder!!!!
    All I want is to know how it feels when your team is the SuperBowl Champs ,I always told myself I would subscribe to sports illustrated,to get the gifts ,don't know if they do that anymore.
    Heck I could go on for ever when talking about my team.
    I will know when we have that Super Bowl team when I see them , I believe there in the right path , but feel Rivers didn't get the effort they seem to be doing for Herbert.Thats is a whole another book.(story). Herbert is a God sent. Young man as great a quarterback and even a better human being.Think he will take us to the promise land!!!. Go Chargers
    Chargers for life fan here in New Mexico.

    • @LightiningHobo
      @LightiningHobo Год назад

      "knowing when the Chargers are going to blow it." Sometimes I feel the same way. Other times I wonder if that is some form of trauma. Maybe that feeling is not real, past experiences mold your brain and it tells you of repeating patterns. But due to trauma, you start seeing patterns where there isn't. Because history does not repeat itself, things might look similar, but it's always new.
      The only problem is that it can only be proven it's not just trauma if the chargers break the mold and win. And if they win, and there's no mold anymore, how do you prove there was a mold in the first place? In other words, it's all nonsense in the end and we can't forget to appreciate the fun in discoursing about nothing.

  • @PeterEBI
    @PeterEBI Год назад +20

    Firing your coach after going 14-2 is not a good sign of a stable organization

    • @johnselwitz5362
      @johnselwitz5362 2 месяца назад +2

      It was quite the knee jerk reaction. I think those within the Chargers organization let what the media was saying influence their decision to fire Marty, which was “Schottenheimer can’t win in the playoffs and never has been able to”. And in the past, Marty’s coaching in the postseason has been the downfall for many teams he’s coached whether it be the Browns, Chiefs or the Chargers in 2004, he coached way too conservatively in so many of those big games. But the loss to the Patriots in 2006 was not Marty’s fault. The Chargers players absolutely shit the bed. They turned the ball over four times, and no team can do something like that and still beat the Patriots of that era. Rivers had a horrible game, those sacks he took on third down were momentum killers. Kaeding missed the field goal that would have sent it to overtime. The Chargers were penalized at crucial moments in the game. If McCree simply goes to the ground after intercepting that pass, then San Diego wins, but he allowed a 35 year old receiver to strip him of the ball. Marty didn’t coach a bad game, his players choked and let him down, thus costing him his job.

  • @dizzydwarf502
    @dizzydwarf502 10 месяцев назад +3

    That 2010 team that didn't make the playoffs, also created another crazy history making stat for Rivers. Finishing 3 straight seasons with a QB rating of 100+ in each of the 3 seasons. Only been done 4 times in history and only by 3 QBs in history; River, Peyton Manning x 2, and Steve Young. And as you mentioned, he did it with a patchwork of receivers. Not a single target he threw to that season even played in 9 games and only 1 person sure catch a pass even played in 8 games. He had several backups, and rookies throughout the season and no running game, and the O-Line was ranked at 29th in the league.
    That Special Teams has also gone down in history as the worth ST in history thusfar.

  • @Sly_404
    @Sly_404 Год назад +8

    As a Chargers fan I knew this video would come at some point. :)

  • @Pandaboybk
    @Pandaboybk Год назад +5

    Chilling and gaming, looking for some long form content, see a new TubFrog deep dive. What a time to be alive!

  • @jacobwilliams1223
    @jacobwilliams1223 Год назад +4

    I appreciate you clarify that the Chargers in 2010 led in only yards on offense and defense. So many people run with "CHARGERS HAD THE #1 OFFENSE & DEFENSE EVER!" when talking them but those stats need context. Great video as usual.

  • @emanuelpalomares616
    @emanuelpalomares616 Год назад +229

    You can't spell Chargers without choke.
    Edit:Thank you for all the likes and the comments.

  • @okie2280
    @okie2280 Год назад +13

    I really wish more people knew about you man the amount of effort and heart you put into your videos are amazing I have so much respect for you keep up the grind

  • @codyrush8780
    @codyrush8780 Год назад +14

    thank you for posting this so i can recover from my Longhorns loss lmfao

  • @DanielAranda-ct1jj
    @DanielAranda-ct1jj Год назад +3

    You were right in about the punter being the MVP of the playoff win over the Colts, To me the best game ever by a punter in NFL history by far. If you haven't watched the game I highly recommend it. He was amazing. Yes the punter was amazing!

  • @mcren6781
    @mcren6781 Год назад +3

    Justin Herbert's body language reminds me so much of Marcus Mariota. He used to always walk with his head down in practice and seemed passive just like Herbert. He wasn't like that his first year or 2 it seemed to have gotten way worse as he started getting hit and injured more and more.

  • @DarkEmoNinja
    @DarkEmoNinja Год назад +8

    Chargers and Clippers are some of the most cursed franchises in sports…sum about moving San Diego teams to LA does shit to ya ig

  • @Sound557
    @Sound557 Год назад +3

    There’s a saying we have in San Diego: we have almost everything; perfect weather, beaches, food, and jobs, everything but a good sports team. This last season with the Padres especially hurt.

  • @kosmosfan01
    @kosmosfan01 Год назад +11

    An hour video on the Chargers? Let me get good and comfy for this one 🍿

    • @Braylon1997
      @Braylon1997 Год назад +2

      Did you get any root beer to go with the popcorn

    • @kosmosfan01
      @kosmosfan01 Год назад +3

      @@Braylon1997 I'm more of a Pepsi/Mountain Dew person so I got a big cup with plenty of ice to complete the meal 😏

  • @fourwoN
    @fourwoN Год назад +7

    Love the vids. Hope your channel blows up. 🤘

  • @williamzbball
    @williamzbball Год назад +7

    Do a video of the Bears from the Super Bowl Shuffle to Current Day Bearrs

    • @KushWW
      @KushWW Год назад

      da berrrrs

  • @AlexEich
    @AlexEich Год назад +2

    @55:04 I can feel the physical pain of you holding back saying "Mark Butt fumble Sanchez"

  • @erickayerdis7511
    @erickayerdis7511 Год назад +4

    Woooh! That was an awesome job describing the pain that we endure as Charger fans. But now that we got that out of our system, let's not give up hope and positive vibes going forward 👍

  • @marcrussell8593
    @marcrussell8593 11 месяцев назад +4

    As a lufelong Bills fan, who experienced the pain of the 1980 playoff loss to the Chargers when the Bills had that game in the bag. Fouts to Jimmy Smith. Nuff said.

  • @dizzydwarf502
    @dizzydwarf502 10 месяцев назад +1

    This video was on point, the best Chargers organization videos I've ever seen. Truly captures Chargers teams from a life long (40 years and counting) Charger fan. (But since leaving San Diego, they won't get any of my money, but I still watch them on TV and they are my team)

  • @darrellcovello7917
    @darrellcovello7917 10 месяцев назад +4

    I lived in San Diego in 2006, and god DAMN was the city hyped. Chargers flags and jerseys everywhere. Everyone knew they were gonna win it all. But on 4th down, Marlon McCree just HAD to try to run the INT back, despite having a lead, and fumble the ball... gotta be one of the dumbest decisions I've ever seen and such a heartbreaker...

  • @jacob9538
    @jacob9538 Год назад +5

    26:00 "They went from 1983 to 1985 without A SINGLE WINNING RECORD!"
    Bruh that's only three seasons lol.

    • @dfp_01
      @dfp_01 6 месяцев назад +2

      The Bucs and Saints were far worse for far longer

    • @esdeathisbae9480
      @esdeathisbae9480 5 месяцев назад

      And yet those 2 teams have won a Superbowl not our good friends the chargers

  • @eliavim3169
    @eliavim3169 Год назад +5

    Phillip Rivers “The Reproduction Machine” 😂

  • @sd_Raiders
    @sd_Raiders Год назад +2

    As a born and raised San Diegan. I love this video. Hopefully the curse will live long and well in LA. Can’t thing of a more deserving team.

  • @aurianzarrineh2633
    @aurianzarrineh2633 Год назад +2

    I just wanted to say man this channel is awesome, your knowledge on football history is insane and you put an insane amount of research into every video. You should be 10 times bigger then you are now, keep up the good work 🤝

  • @ca_renegade
    @ca_renegade Год назад +3

    Oh boy... I've never clicked that thumbnail smashed that like button faster for another video in my entire life.
    This team has been in my family since they existed. My uncle was at the 1963 AFL Championship game. My dad went to the 2004 Faceplant vs. the Jets. Tyler Seau was one of the coaches on my high school football team. Born and raised San Diegan over here.
    Imagine being a kid and watching football for the first time, and the first season you decide to start watching is the 2006 14-2 LT MVP year. You don't know anything about the previous history full of embarrassment, but your watching LaDanian Tomlinson absolutely demolish the entire league with him and the rest of that roster. Your hopes are as high as they could ever possibly and the sky is the limit, but then at the end of the season there's an epic, jaw-dropping, flabbergasting crashing and collapsing that you didn't even think was possible because it had never been done up to that point. Then, when you think that was only one time and there's no way they could blow it that badly they somehow invent a new way to blow the game year after year after year every single season. Every year I am fully well aware of what happens with this team and I get less and less surprised and more cynical every year, but I am somehow still suckered into rooting for this team very passionately every single year for some reason. No other team I could possibly think of in pro sports can hype you up and make you extremely excited for the season only to find a way to blow it in spectacular fashion and somehow invent a new way to blow the game and the season that only the Chargers could find a way to make it possible.
    Why do I keep putting myself through this? I grew up in San Diego and kids made fun of me at school for being a Chargers fan when I was growing up. People in my family even make fun of me for still being a fan of this team. Is it the stacked rosters on paper full of All-Pro, Pro Bowl, even HOF players? Is it the passion I have for the city I grew up in? Is it the awesome looking jerseys? The cycle of being a Chargers fan never changes and yet I somehow keep being willing to do this to myself

    • @leafinagust2775
      @leafinagust2775 Год назад

      Preach, brother. Honestly I preferred the Navy jerseys over the powder though.

    • @sd_Raiders
      @sd_Raiders Год назад

      If it’s for the passion of the city you grew up in, then you would no longer be a fan. Unless you grew up in LA.

  • @luvmuzik4me
    @luvmuzik4me Год назад +3

    I have been a Charger fan since about 2002. I have felt the heartbreak like all of the other Charger fans have felt. Why am I still a fan? I have to think that it is because they are an exciting team. Some teams are pretty dull, but never the Chargers.

  • @jitensha5231
    @jitensha5231 10 месяцев назад +5

    Returned here after Staley and Telesco were both fired!

  • @undrtow0515
    @undrtow0515 9 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve been binging your videos for 2 days now. I’m learning a shit ton about football history. You videos are exquisitely put together, your voice and cadence are spot on, and these videos are very entertaining. Thank you!

  • @darongeary3351
    @darongeary3351 Год назад +1

    been a bolt fan for 50 years and never saw as clearly as you've laid it out. excelent report tubfrog!

  • @bobdrago69657
    @bobdrago69657 Год назад +3

    Dan Fouts / Rivers QB eras, John Jefferson, Kellen Winslow Sr., LDT, Junior Seau, etc those were some great teams. Those respective teams should’ve won at least one SB, but lost big time in the playoffs and the SB they did play in. My Niners won their second SB partially thanks to the acquisition of Big Louie Kelcher, Big Hands Johnson and the incomparable sack machine, Fred Dean. Who knows with the Chargers, Some kinda curse?

  • @rjmacready9828
    @rjmacready9828 8 месяцев назад +4

    that 06 loss to the pats is one of the most painful in sports history imo...

    • @malcomlovejoy
      @malcomlovejoy 3 месяца назад

      Mac, that loss to the Oilers in '79 was worse for me

    • @K37-h1z
      @K37-h1z 2 месяца назад

      Troy brown.

  • @_SayitAintSo
    @_SayitAintSo 11 месяцев назад +2

    Chargers been a Social Media team even before social media🤣🤣

  • @ronin7997
    @ronin7997 Год назад +1

    Excellent retrospective and commentary on a truly cursed franchise. Been a suffering fan since Fouts was under center, and you captured the highs and lows of this team very well. Chargers have mastered choking like no other team!

  • @genemorgan736
    @genemorgan736 Год назад +3

    I'm from san diego, born and raised and this video is everything. I haven't rooted for them since they've moved. I dunno, I just hate that they moved.

  • @hankbunyon8654
    @hankbunyon8654 Год назад +2

    I’ve been a fan for over 50yrs… nothing but heartbreak

  • @jal2550
    @jal2550 10 месяцев назад +1

    This was Extremley painful to watch😪...Except that GLORIOUS 94 playoff run

  • @redriderbbgun8018
    @redriderbbgun8018 Год назад +5

    I'm still in shock the Chargers managed to make it into a Super Bowl at all.

  • @Mr_black_aka
    @Mr_black_aka Год назад +5

    Being the chargers franchise is basically trusting a three year old child not to eat a lego

  • @steelcurtain187
    @steelcurtain187 Год назад +2

    This was a tough one for sure as I’ve loved the Chargers over the years. Feels like another cursed franchise like the Vikings.

  • @Todogames-sm5hm
    @Todogames-sm5hm Год назад +3

    The Chargers , they can be good one year but then choke at the end , but they'll be bad the next year or so , the cycle repeats it's self

  • @daveatkins3796
    @daveatkins3796 Год назад +16

    As a San Diego Chargers fan, last year’s playoff choke was the greatest game

    • @vasiliosthomas4883
      @vasiliosthomas4883 11 месяцев назад +2

      It was so satisfying. Don't watch the NFL any longer, but if the Chargers lose, its an even sweeter Sunday.

    • @daveatkins3796
      @daveatkins3796 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@vasiliosthomas4883 You did yourself a favor. Sports is an abusive relationship. But ditching the Chargers as fans was the equivalent of puking something up. We feel better afterwards. Now, this incompetent 3 ring uninspired circus is LA’s problem. The city of San Diego should give Dean Spanos the key to the city for freeing us from having to suffer from Chargering week in and week out. It was heroic on his end

  • @pepelucho1751
    @pepelucho1751 Год назад +2

    I was at that Patriot game in '06. That single game defined what it is like to be a Charger fan. It's like having an alcoholic abusive partner. I don't trust them anymore.

  • @Joe.Foleyy
    @Joe.Foleyy Год назад +2

    Damnit how does this kid not have more subs, work is impeccable.

  • @williambrown3458
    @williambrown3458 Год назад +1

    No mention of the Fred Dean and John Jefferson holdouts in 1981 where both players were eventually traded. While they replaced Jefferson with the acquisition of Wes Chandler, Dean's loss was felt on defense where it was awful all season.

  • @jimmyundercuffler4005
    @jimmyundercuffler4005 Год назад +2

    Thanks for another video your one of my favorite youtubers right now

  • @jwolf7778
    @jwolf7778 10 месяцев назад +1

    That was very educational. As a newer Chargers fan this explains much.

  • @DrakeyBerg
    @DrakeyBerg Год назад +13

    Ah yes, being a Chargers fan. One of the hardest things in my life.

  • @freezhollywood
    @freezhollywood 9 месяцев назад +2

    Surprised u didn’t show that ravens game where the ravens were like 3rd n 25. And ray rice ran to the 1st down somehow

  • @big214
    @big214 Год назад +2

    Pain… I hour and 4 mins of merciless pain

  • @VerveQuest-zc4ri
    @VerveQuest-zc4ri Год назад +2

    Brady made it to the Championship Game that year with wrs Doug Gabriel, Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney and a retiring Troy Brown that year. One of the worst. WRs rooms ever. Bellicheck finally relented in the off season and traded for Moss

  • @amaze_z1953
    @amaze_z1953 Год назад +18

    Of course i get a video named "the art of the choke" after my Longhorns choked the game vs OU 😐

    • @Salad_Bar06
      @Salad_Bar06 Год назад

      That game destroyed me

    • @twobadour
      @twobadour Год назад +1

      As both an Oklahoma Sooners fan and an Atlanta Falcons fan, I’m not sure whether to laugh or feel sympathy

  • @raymondwalter7625
    @raymondwalter7625 Год назад +3

    I've learned to love the Chargers, and I've also learned not to get my hopes up. we love you herbert

  • @daveatkins3796
    @daveatkins3796 Год назад +3

    The city of San Diego needs to give Dean Spanos the keys to the city for heroically freeing the San Diego fans from this team. They’ve truly turned losing into a work of art. So much so it needs to hang in the Louvre. Everything from playing it close just to lose because of a special teams fuck up to blowing a gargantuan lead. They’d figure out some way to lose if they were up by 50 points with 5 minutes left in the game. Thank you Spanos for removing this team and don’t come back, either. They’re LA’s problem

  • @matthewmalpass9999
    @matthewmalpass9999 11 месяцев назад +1

    When they fired 14 and 2 Schottenheimer they were finished forever. Everyone knew then, they weren't a professional football team.

  • @hankjohnson4754
    @hankjohnson4754 11 месяцев назад +2

    After 25 years as a fan. The playoff loss to Jville was the final straw. I just cant put myself through it anymore. I stopped watching football alltogether. It waa too painful

  • @Wolf_3125
    @Wolf_3125 Год назад +5

    Because of Spanos. You can take the Chargers out of San Diego, but you can't take the San Diego out of the Chargers.

  • @ebenvitalic4428
    @ebenvitalic4428 Год назад +2

    We've been realy cursed since the day they let 55 go Rip then Marty .fan since 1980

    • @ebenvitalic4428
      @ebenvitalic4428 Год назад +1

      Amd if it wasn't for Leaf being terrible we would of never got LT

  • @wildruid10
    @wildruid10 10 месяцев назад +1

    As a Broncos fan its almost hilarious how well and fast the Chargers franchise can amass a embarrassing riches of a talented rosters of talent and squander it year in year out.

  • @seanmcnally4818
    @seanmcnally4818 Год назад +1

    It's hard to say, but there are good arguements.
    The Good: 1963 AFL Champs, The Miami Steam Bath, 1994 AFC Champs
    The Bad: The Freezer Bowl, 14-2 one & done in 2006, Rivers playing with torn ACL, The Choke at Duval
    The Ugly: Ryan Leaf, Eli Manning getting drafted, Destroyed in Super Bowl XXIX
    I'm sure there's more, but that's all i can think of right now.

  • @brianluisi7616
    @brianluisi7616 Год назад +1

    Bro you are my favorite football Chanel, you do you, you will be at millions of subs, trust me, one day your going to wake up and be RUclips famous as long as you don't change, you do you, thanks for all the great videos

  • @ArmandoVerdugo8
    @ArmandoVerdugo8 Год назад +2

    You went through what went wrong pretty good in that 2006 playoff collapse but there was another penalty that Marlon mcree had that also gave the patriots the ball back on a 4th down what would've gave us the ball back but they got a touchdown out of. Also Vincent Jackson dropped a touchdown that game and so did Malcolm floyd

  • @guyturners
    @guyturners Год назад +4

    As someone who is still a lifelong chargers fan, pain

  • @Deathstroke4200
    @Deathstroke4200 Год назад +2

    The fact Marty said that and it happened! Damn I'd be pissed if I was Head Coach 😮

  • @woodah33
    @woodah33 11 месяцев назад +3

    If you can survive being a chargers fan, life can't hurt you

  • @rustyshackleford2185
    @rustyshackleford2185 4 месяца назад +1

    I was there in 2008 wk 1 ..great game for carolina and a great year ..biggest thing i remember was all the charger fans knew hiring norv turner was not the answer

  • @acemacneill5783
    @acemacneill5783 10 месяцев назад +1

    The 1987 team had one of the worst collapses in history. They started out 8-1, only to lose six straight and miss the playoffs at 8-7.

  • @Stj209
    @Stj209 Год назад +1

    63 to now is 60 years not 50, just adding to their misery.
    Great videos love the content keep it up!

  • @bumpfit3020
    @bumpfit3020 9 месяцев назад +1

    TubFrog is quickly becoming my favorite documentarian