The best road bike tyres for commuting you can get! ...In my opinion.
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2015
- The best road bike tyres for commuting, in my opinion…
Continental Grand Prix 4 Season
And www.cyclingweekly.co.uk said…
“These are a mix between Continental’s GP4000S race tyre and it’s heavy-duty GatorSkin. They’re tougher than the GP4000S, yet faster rolling than the GatorSkin, giving great versatility and durability. Excellent puncture and sidewall protection means riders should get good mileage from these tyres without puncturing. There’s great grip in the wet, and they even managed to keep us upright when we unwittingly rode through an oil spill. Only a high asking price cost these great tyres a perfect 10.”
It's just like what i think! :D 
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Reginald Scot,
The polished wood floor is a nice idea giver but I'd say the best test practically is to do it against a cold polished steel surface like a manhole cover. Those buggers are the one I'm afraid when cornering.
For commuting and touring I've gone all the way up to 35mm now. (I used to run 28 then up to 32). Maxxis Overdrive Elite at the moment. Puncture-proof kevlar compound, light tread and yet seem no slower at all than the skinnier tyres I used before. Also corner really well.
I bought these tyres because of your video and your recommendation. I've been running these tyres for a while now (less than a year) and they've been great. They really grip well in the wet and thankfully no punctures yet. I was even riding to work in the snow when we had some early this year. I know they're not designed for that and I certainly wouldn't attempt it when snow turns icy. The only slight negative (and I mean slight) is they're a bit slower rolling yet still pretty good and the benefits outweigh this.
Great information! I really like that you threw some differentials in there. The semi-scientific grip test was impressive. All the best and good rolls.
Thanks for the info!
I just ordered a set!
Usually use these in winter and the Grand Prix Road in summer. Had 1 puncture last week when a 30mm nail decided to join with them. Else no issues at all. definitely more than worth the money.
i have GS4000 on a roadie, as for any conti tire, i see the prices more like a good investment.
during winter on my cross bike i use 47s continental tour ride , good roll great grip, pot holes no problems when going back home in poor light
During winter/fall/early spring I ride my Cross and my Road bikes on 28s & 25s and truly agree with You; Contis 4 Seasons are made tough and yet sporty!
Thank you for the comment, happy cycling! :)
Really informative video.... Makes a change for RUclips. Cheers and happy cycling
Thank you for the nice comment, happy cycling. :)
Nice test of lean angle on slippery floor I thought - hopefully followed by swapping the tyres to Cheng Shin or Golden Boy for comparison... but no !
Seriously, I've never noticed any difference in the wet grip of various tyres (however the 'feel' and effect on ride quality / geometry does vary enormously I think).
about profile (canals on tyre) not making any difference...since contact patch on road tyres is so small it really doesnt make much difference when riding on straight line, but in my opinion profile makes difference when cornering on wet road, since those "canals" are easy way of water getting away from inbetwen part of tyre that sits on the road and tarmac itself, resulting in better grip since tyre will grip great on tarmac, but will not grip well if there is water betwen tyre and surface in sits on. I'm thinking of those corners that sometimes have running water on them during strong rain season, or some crossings in cities with standing water on side of the road or in ruts. Profile of this tyre looks like it was designed with that in mind + got stickines youre talking about, thats why i'm getting this for my commuter. Thanks for sharing your opinion, helped me to decide on these :)
Also great for winter/training rides in a typical UK climate... I'm predominantly a racer but also commute and 4-season contis would be my do-it-all tyre if I could only ride one tyre for the rest of my life! I spend most of my time in Norway and rate the schwalbe marathon (plus) tyre as great heavier duty puncture resistant commuting tyres if you want to get 10,000km+ out of them. Never ridden the gatorskins but feel they would fit in somewhere between the 4-seasons and the marathons... all three are durable great investments. At the other extreme conti GP4000Sii are fine for sqifter summer commuting, with slightly less durability. Do forgive the 'rambly' comment - self isolating atm!
George C no problem I really appreciate your comment 👍🏻
Thanks for the very informative video...I'm a tire freak myself, lol...always looking for the perfect tire, as its importance cannot be emphasized enough regarding safety! I'm willing to spend whatever it takes to find a good gripping, reliable, long lasting tire. I ride on streets with a lot of dirt patches & gravel accumulation, especially on corners & intersections...will definitely give these a try! Thanks again! Janine
WindOfTheWisp your very welcome, I do my best to be useful in my videos, Glad it helped.
Great review!
I own Continental 4 seson tires last 2 years wit my 120kg at 8bars i run ower 40 broken botlles in this time and not 1 puncture ,it,s absolute the best tire you can bye .Vectran is 7x stronger than kevlar, and i hope Continental will start to produce racing tires wit Vectran .
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Do you think standard grand prix in 26"/1.1/8" version for mtb would be good choice for road driving?
Great product!!! would buy again.
Conti GatorSkins in 25 and 28 - road/race and commuter road respectively. Good all round traction and responsiveness. Not much wet weather here in Southern California, so I mostly deal with sand slicks and idiots who can't drive.
and high winds. bah
"and idiots that can't drive" That cracked me up. 😊
it's true. They'll give just about anyone a license around here :)
*****
The world you mean?
I stand corrected :)
I upgraded to a pair of these recently. It's just for recreational cycling and commuting and these are quite expensive but several people recommended these since I'm still using tubes. One thing was immediately obvious is how easy they were to mount on the rim compared to everything else I had previously. I didn't spend much time riding with them and I'm hoping I'll feel a difference between these and my old cheap tires.
I hope so too! They are still my favourite tyres. 😁
I sometimes ride a beach cruiser with 26 x 2.125 tires. Where can I find a solid inter-tube tire here in America and which is the most puncture resistant?
Don’t know? 🤷🏻♂️
I actually use this on my supersix evo. Not as light as the GP5000 but for malaysian road conditions where theres a lot of potholes, sands, rain etc they perform very well.
Yes they are a great choice, not slow but very reliable. I raced in Malaysia, roads are as bad as Brunei sometimes. 🤣
Thanks for your comment!
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On these tyres, I have to appreciate their good ability to absorb inequalities on the road even in cooperation with the aluminium frame. Unfortunately, this comes at the expense of higher rolling resistance. I don't mind that much, though, because I use them exclusively on the bike I commute to work on and use for winter prep.
I've been using these tyres for the past 2 years and very good. I was watching this clip to see others opinion. I found them expensive as well, but considering the fact that I never had a puncture in London commute, that is paid off the price. Still in good shape but I would like to get a pair of GP5000 and not sure if would be any better than these All Season ones.
Cheers
The GP5000 are not better.
They are very different, more for racing than riding to work for sure. Stick with the 4 Seasons unless you plan to race.
The GP5000 have good grip, but they are much softer and wear out much faster, they also only have 1 layer of protection Vs the 4 layers on the 4 Season. The GP5000 are lighter... but by not much, less than 10g a tyre last time I checked.
Hey thanks for the video! One thing I am getting more curious about is about maintenance of tires. So I am have been doing loads research finding out the difference between tires rolling resistance, compounds e.t.c. and what has occurred to me that might be totally unspoken in the way of tire longevity is, do you do anything to make your tires last longer? I went through a period of time when I would brush them once a week - but it was infrequent enough to make a habit out of it. Most tire reviews talk about how durable the tire is- with no mention of care on the cyclists perspective. Is there some obvious care routine everyone is doing that I just don't know about- or does every fundamentally do what I do and leave them as they are the whole time? please note that in the case i do get a flat I will do a brush through- I am asking in this scenario rather, if anyone does any maintenance in a more preventative way?
That’s a very good question, I have never read done any “tyre maintenance” other than washing them and checking for sharp stones, metal and glass. I sometimes glue them or add patches if I get a cut… it’s something I need to investigate. 👍🏻🙂
I use Vittoria Randonneur 700 x 28c and have never had a puncture. They don't weigh much and are comfortable. Drives daily to work and drives on holiday with a high weight. Drives both on paved roads and on holidays a lot on gravel roads. Highly recommend these tires!!😊
Thank you for your comment. 👍🏻
Ordered a set last week, should be here Wednesday. After puncturing on my Asian made Conti Sports this weekend, I am looking forward to trying these. BTW hoping the 25c's fit my Bianchi ELOS
+John Cherry Good luck, I hope you like them.
Absolutely like these tires, they work well in all conditions... except on a wet wooden bridge. Ridden for 140 miles over all types of surfaces with excellent ride and a speed increase as they have little rolling resistance. Well worth the money and with rotating from to back, I am looking forward to many miles.
John Cherry
Good to hear! Glad you like them.
Thanks for this. Might give them a go
I ride the black Edition in 28. I like them very much. Can I use my old tubes, which I used in the 25 th tyres?
Only if they say you can on the box they came in. If not, best to buy some new ones. 👍🏻
i was thinking to get the same tyre as well. do you think this tyre can cope on canal paths occosionally?
Mucca Pazza Oh yes, I have used them on canal paths and countryside paths... But if you do alot of that sort of path I would advise you get fatter tyres than my 23mm as they are a bit hard and thin for this type of ridding. Also if you get in any mud they are not so good because they have no deep tread. But apart from that they are really fab! :)
Very good tires and I'm very impressed with them
I hope they are as good to you as they have been to me. Enjoy safe winter riding! :)
Had them, were shite, got a puncture within 2 weeks and when I fixed it i found the sidewall to be completely torn through aswell as the puncture.
I now use schwalbe marathon plus in a 700x25c size and in over 2 years with the last set I've had a total of zero punctures. The current set had a manufacturing error with the tread (between the treads the tyre was cracking) so have been replaced by schwalbe. So the new set arriving hopefully today or tomorrow and going on my new wheels, will have the same condition, no punctures for as long as they live. I stand by them when saying they are the best commuting tyres around, much much better than the continental grand prix 4 seasons
Well sorry to hear you had bad luck with 4 seasons, but it sounds like just that... bad luck. I have had over 10 years of good riding on them with only 1 problem in all that time! Not bad going I think, to say they are shit would be inaccurate. I also had the same tyres as you are using now and had the same problem with them! I thought it was just mine? So does that make them shit? But thanks for the info, might help someone. :)
Fair points, it probably was bad luck but ive been wary to use them since as I was about 8 miles from home and had no money to get a new tyre haha
You had the same problem? The tread cracking?
Its probably the same situation to be honest, a glitch in manufacturing but yeah, I may have overreacted to the tyres haha. I can be a bit hot headed at times and need to cool it down- a lot! Haha
Glasgow Cycle Guy Hay no problem! I'm the same! Half my family is from Scotland and the other is Italian so just imagine how bad I get! It must be a Celtic warrior thing? :D But your story is a bad one, I can see how it would put you off for life if you got stuck like that with no way to ride home... well I am glad you found the right bicycle tyres for you. Mabye we should just say they are both really good tyres but nothing is perfect. ;) Thanks for watching!
Yeah, just in the blood haha that must be fun, especially on the bike, I have to be very careful with what I say and do on the bike because of my temper :-P
And I managed to fix the puncture and carefully rode to a bike shop and asked if thet had any old tyres they were going to bin in the size I needed and they had one, a scwalbe lugano so I got home that way, so very thankful for that
And yeah, each to their own
@@GlasgowCycleGuy I believe it was John Lennon who once said "give peace a chance" and "violence begets violence" Unfortunately his killer Mark David Chapman did not live by the same philosophy and killed this musical genius on Dec. 8, 1980. If only he had missed and hit Yoko Ono instead!
GREAT review! Very thorough. Just curious, have you ever tried Vredestein Fortezza? I really like the feel a LOT but I have had a staple get through only once (out of several thousands of miles). I tried gatorskins and they are just too heavy for me. Between the lower profile and the weight, I felt like I was 20 lbs heavier. I'm not sure how they would compare to your tires (conti 4 season) in feel or your skid test.
Thank you and yes, I have tried those Verdestein Fortezza. The bike mechanic put a set on my most recent bike that I purchased. I haven't ridden them very far yet probably less than 1000 km. All I can saying initially is that they are light and good rolling, (they have a high TPI count) but they don't appear to be as hard wearing as the 4 Seasons as they have already started to show some damage and wear. As for grip they have been fine so far in both wet and dry conditions. I can't say with any certainty if they're better or worse yet, it's difficult to determine that until you have a crash. They are £10 more than the continental tires. My opinion of them is that they would make a good sport or racing tire for all year round competition. But I wouldn't use them for commuting because they are too expensive and don't seem to be quite as resilient as the conti? Hope this was helpful and thank you for your nice comment.
That was a very helpful response! Thank you. I'm glad to hear you can objectively compare them. You are definitely right about the faster wear, but I'm a sucker for the colors! Btw, I subscribed to your channel since you're awesome! I'm becoming a bit of an advocate myself these days! (hence my last 4 videos on bicycling!)
Next time you might want to try a folder. They should be lighter, you can carry a spare, and you'll only need 1 tire tool If that.
I got the 25 mm Vittoria connies there great
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l just got Schwalbe LEGANO 2 w/ K GUARD so far so good ALSO light grippy and light saved 1lb rolling weight from my bike too !! l m hoping for great results
Good luck 👍🏻🙂
little question for you. im running a hybrid bije with 38 700 tyres, whats the smallest i can get on that rim?
WarringtonCyclist That very much depends on the rim dimensions? I don’t want to give bad advice, so try this website for lots of info on bike tyres. Hope it helps. :)
www.betterbybicycle.com/2014/04/a-simple-guide-on-essentials-of-wheels.html
WarringtonCyclist you should be able to fit a 25mm on all but the very widest of rims, in theory you can fit any 700C tyre to any 700C rim, it's not ideal at the extremes though.
Did you find a big difference between these tires before and the new version around 2022?
No I haven’t noticed any difference. 🙂
What tire is good for packed limestone trail ridding?
That is a very specific question... I have ridden on hardcore and other large chunks of Gravel like a limestone trail... so I'd Guess something big would be good, 35mm. Maybe something with a bit more tread to it. Like a gravel tyre. Plenty of options available. Cheaper would be something by schwalbe, but I do love my continental tyres and would recommend them if you have the money.
love your video blog
mohammad azad Thank you.
I've ridden Gran Prix's quite a bit and agree they're quite good, but I've sustained what I consider to be an unacceptable number of puncture flats with them. I've been mostly a Gatorskin guy for the past few years and now find myself very curious about Schwalbe Marathon Pluses, which I haven't yet tried -- anyone care to weigh in on them?
Hi, I have the Schwalbe M+ tyres in 700x28c on my single speed bike. I ride in London and they are bulletproof, I mean I can ride over nails, glass, whatever and they won’t puncture. However they are heavy as f***. This means that u will have to pedal harder. So it depends on what trade off’s your willing to make. You could go for the standard Schwalbe Marathons or the Schwalbe Durano + tyres if you want something lighter but still with very high puncture resistance levels.
Are they better than the gatorskin for commuting (comfort and puncture protection)?
Yes, I have gator hard skins on my other bike at the moment and they are very grippy and robust, they are also cheaper. However, the 4 Seasons are lighter and feel much more responsive and faster. If you have the money go for the 4 Seasons. 👍🏻
Son ruedas exelentes.y gracias por los titulos en español
Thank RUclips and Google. 😅👍🏻
I have always had a real difficult time mounting and removing Continental tires, but that was in the 70s. Maybe it's easier today, or pethaps itvwas my rims from back then.
British Viscount Aerospace, Lambert bike.
It’s very dependent on the rim and tyre combination. 😉
thanks for the review, im currently want to buy this tyre, schwal one, or schwal durano,
how long does this tire takes till it need to be replaced?
Abdur-Rahman how long is a peace of string? It all depends on you and how you ride, but they last a good Long time! Fantastic tyres, you won't regret it.
it's a whole year rainy season here in my place, i think what that tire got will benefit me.
i ride almost every week-day, commuting to work, about 12km a day. and sometimes i take longer ride on week-end.
the road condition is quite good, mostly concrete, and rough tarmac, just about 5% in my daily route which is real bad, it's a broken concrete due to daily heavy loaded trucks , i even got pinch flat there using 41c tire (my bad actually, i ride quite aggressive when that happens).
i do ride quite aggressive , like hopping over bumps and potholes with speed.
Abdur-Rahman sounds a lot like my old ride to work! It's funny you should talk about pinch flats because my Friend had a double pinch flat the other day after hitting a small pothole at speed. Me... I have one had one once, when I hit the exposed edge of a man hole cover doing about 30kph. Apart from that I never get a problem with your average pot hole and that's on a 23mm. 👍🏻
Reginald Scot awesome, i'll try to take 28c , since my rim seems cant accept rubber narrower than 28. and i hear wider tire have lower rolling reaistance too, my current tires is surly knard, which is knobby cyclocross tyre and i'm pretty much happy with it as i can go fast , even head to head with motorist (well it's descent)
i wanna know how fast is a slick tire, maybe i can even passing motorist on the climbs? haha thanks.
HI! I'm choosing tires now and can't decide. I plan to ride in city, highway and light gravel/light forest trails. I'm choosing between the Continental Grand Prix 5000 All Season TR 32mm and the Continental Grand Prix 4 Season 32mm. What can you recommend? I had experience riding the GP 5000(25mm). Good tires, but I didn’t go on gravel because my weight is 100 kg and at a pressure of 8 bar it was very uncomfortable. And it is very strange that the new GP 5000 AS weighs more than the old, but more durable 4 seasons. Perhaps someone had a similar experience?
The GP5000 is a race tyre, it’s not good for gravel at all, it has no side wall protection. Use the 4 seasons or if it’s too expensive try the Gator Hard shell. 🙂
@@reginaldscot165 But the new gp 5000 as looks like all season and more durable. And I'm trying to understand which of this is true and which is marketing)
Where we can get in Nashik???
Good question. Try Googling it to find local dealers.
Great!
Disciple0fMetal thanks 👍🏻
Nice information...
Thanks buddy 👍🏻
I have never had a bad Continental tire. Even the cheapest ones have great grip.
Ultra Sport II are excellent tires, especially for 20 bucks. They are about all I buy.
Me too
Contact points are the best parts for investment I believe (saddle pedal grip and wheels/tires)
I agree. 🙂👍🏻
I use Schwalbe Durano plus. How do they compare?
Also £30 for your life is nothing. Great review.
Jimjim Skimmer Thank you, well, I think the Schwalbe maybe have the better ride Comfort but this tyre performance is so good in everything else that I'm willing to make that small sacrifice.
Conti 4 season are ok, also have great luck with panaracer ribmo. For less $
what are you using for a cable end there?
+combatLaCarie An electrical cable lug that I crimped on and then cut off the end. Its all I had to hand at the time. I have a new cable end now. :)
heh, that wasn't a criticism at all. I never know what put on the end as I don't have the proper ends! This is inspiration!
combatLaCarie
ha ha, glad I could help. :)
What would be the proper Tube ? Ted.
TPU 😉
Anybody here had experience with foam tires and how they compare with traditional?
+Gediminas Jesinas No sorry, but I would like to try some? :)
+Reginald Scot My guess is that foam is not going to last long during braking and it can absorb liquids unlike hard smooth rubber.
Accelerating between 2 rows of cars i ran over a put hole with a new 4season 25mm, first ride and the 8 bar went bamm on the front wheel(pinch flat) and tire slipped to one side of the rim and was cut through the side wall between rim and road surface.(bye bye new tire)
That was an expencive single test ride.
Luckily i could slow down from my high speed, riding on the aluminium rim on front wheel getting to the side of the road without falling over.
joel verleysen nasty situation to be in and very unlucky, I wonder how a 23 mm would have dealt with that? Sounds like a very deep pothole, probably would've had the same problem with any tyres? But please don't test the theory again! Ride safe. And thanks for the comment. 👍🏻
How's the ride quality compared to the gatorskin? Lots of people complain that the gatorskins are a harsh ride.
Well, I have only used the 4seasons, but I know lots of people in the club and friends that use the gatorskins. All I can say is both are going to be a hard ride because of the strong construction and puncture resistance, they give good mileage, grip and reliability but they will never be much for comfort. That's the sacrifice you make I guess, but after riding them to work for the last few years I don't notice any real discomfort. I feel the frame and the seat you have play a big role in comfort. Hope this helps. :)
Gatorskins are harsh, heavy and have little to no grip in colder wet weather. I'd avoid them really.
I commute on Vittoria Rubinos all year. No problems with them ever tbh.
+Biking Bazil +Reginald Scot Thanks for your input, guys. I've already bought a pair of 4 Seasons to be used on my cheap (non-butted?) aluminum commuter. The bike is really harsh as it is on some factory touring tires.
Mutant Baby
Glad we could help, enjoy the riding!
I have very bad experience with Continental tires (24, GP Attack). After just about 800 kilometres or so they started breaking on the side and let me down - in another country, sunday afternoon with all stores closed, while chasing the train. Luckily I managed to get another tire just in time to catch the train. Not buying Continental anymore. I think their supposed quality is waaay overhyped.
Ydonkov the 4 Seasons is very different, I understand your problem because some of my customers that buy the lighter and faster GP4000 get side wall damaged very easily. The 4 season is very robust and has a woven side wall protection. Totally different tyres.
get a pair of thickslicks, I ride mine on a continuous surface of broken glass and have never gotten a puncture. I weigh over 260 pounds.
What's the rolling resistance like on thickslicks?
@@darkknight17 there is a high thread count version which probably rolls alright, my local shop owner ordered me the cheaper, low thread count ones by mistake, they are quite slow.
@@damonthomas8955 thanks for the response Damon. I'm thinking about getting these for my MTB to make it more city friend. Can I please have the name of the high thread version?
What are your personal views on the pros and cons of these tyres?
Thanks for your time ⌚👍🏼🙏🏼
@@darkknight17 the two versions are just called 125 threads per inch, and 25 per inch, as far as I remember. They are tough but slow, kinda like me as I get old.
@@damonthomas8955 thanks for the input. I'm currently running OEM WTB Trail Boss 27.5's that came with the bike at 60 psi. They've made my leg strong. I guess it's a trade off between fast rolling tyres vs puncture resistance. I prefer puncture resistance and building quads. 💪🤷🏽♂️
180 dollars here for two tires at joy ride bikes lacey Washington never had any flats
Kelvin Grover $130BND in my shop😁👍🏻
$79.99 each @ Paul's Bicycle Way of Life in Oregon. Had to have them though :/
are these goathead proof??
Ercushka Kulmetov I have no idea sir. Is that a big problem where you live?
@@reginaldscot165 yes a very big problem, goatheads are these spikey weeds that are everywhere here in new mexico usa. So much so i thinking of using foam tires, tannius in particular.
on m'avait conseillé le continental 4 seasons et bien plus jamais !
relativement cher, en 6 mois, j'ai eu 3 crevaisons, ras le bol.
je suis revenu au schwalbe durano plus , moins cher mais plus lourd, et 1 crevaison lente en 6 ans !
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The normal grand prix cost half the price but they nearly good as the 4 season + the rolling resistance is lower ...
Cool
This guy should be on mythbusters he actually proved that you can defy gravity.
Ha Ha thanks! Unfortunately they stopped that show. 😮
@@reginaldscot165 I actually just got these tires for Christmas haven’t tried them out getting rid of my gators puncture resistant but sloooooooow hopefully these are faster.!
4 seasons suck, sidewalls are way too stiff (folding) and give a harsher uncomplient ride IMO. they are expensive for what they are. either get gatorskins or 4000S if you're a conti buyer. THe actual width of a 28mm is actually miles off and measures 26mm! Compared to a Giant branded 28mm folder with similar puncture protection at the contact point and similar weight it was easier to get on without having to stretch the tyre a little, rolled much faster, better cornering in all conditions and actually measured 28mm on the same rim so was more comfortable allowing a greater volume of air. I've been riding on the roads in various modes for 30 years since I was a teen so have a wide range of exp. incl tubs
ynotnilknarf39 Thanks for the info. :)
somebody noticed the tires were backwards those tires are directions
manuel belteton Thanks, but i dont think I makes any difference to be honest?
+Reginald Scot Yea, you'll lose some traction on wet surfaces. Tread is meant to help give tires traction on wet roads. So the less tread, the more traction on dry roads. The more tread, more traction on wet roads. It's all the same principles for car racing too. Compound is second in priority.
shechshire
I have tread? its just someone said they are on backwards... I dont think they are, but if they are I was saying its still the same amount of tread so I dont think it makes any diffrernce, as the compound is the same and the water displacement is the same. But I think your talking about slicks... and on tires as thin as this (23mm) they cut through water just as well as with tread... as a guy in a bike shop told me years ago "this small tread will do nothing, its all aboout the rubber compound."
Thanks for the comment and safe riding. :)
Reginald Scot
Any molded indent on a tire is tread so yeah you do. Well, the thing is that tread that is designed in a directional pattern is made that way so that it can guide & move the water side ways through the tread paths off of the tire so no, the water displacement will not be the same. I mean, bicycle road tires like your's usually don't have much tread anyway but whatever I guess it's up for debate how much it'll really help you. Not really man, the less tread the slipperier it's gonna be on wet roads, that's a fact. The compound of a tire means nothing in rain. Yeah, tires that have no tread are called "slicks". No prob, merry Christmas!
+shechshire I hate to do this but.. I just went and checked all my facts and (I hate this feeling) I was right. :(
compound is more important on a road in wet or dry, different compound for each condition. Now if you are planning to go off road then that's a different story, you will need deep tread for mud or snow, or like my Italian family have on their car, steel spikes for ice! if you look at the tyers in this video it will become apparent to you that the tread has worn off, and yet they grip the road very well indeed! That is because of the type of rubber they are made of, its soft in the cold and sticky to the touch... so it bites into the road nicely. Go look it up on Google, I looked at 5 websites and they all said pretty much the same thing. To give some examples to illustrate my point, the continentals have far less tread than the cheap Michelin ones I had before, but the Michelin were harder compound and so in the wet I would come skidding off the road all the time! Honestly and truthfully when talking about a "road bike tyre" the compound is first, the depth and shape of tread is second... think about it, why do all the top brand winter tyres have different shaped tread pattern if it matters so much? But hay, I am just trying to help, if you still do not trust me read into it yourself, you will be surprised. :)
I also have a story from my dad about a Citroen 2CV overtaking a Ferrari on a wet motorway that nicely illustrates my point about thin tyres cutting thought water better irrelevant of tread pattern. You have raised some interesting thoughts, I might do a follow up video on this. Thanks for the inspiration. :)
I prefer the GP 4000s... in 25mm
They are faster!
5ft 5 and perfect size
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Hilarious intro
Shadi Gif OK 👍🏻
Reginald you SOB!
Wow, 7 years ago £30 was a lot of money one one of these tyres? Now 2022 and you can hardly find one of these for under £35 and that s on a huge discount because Black Friday s around the corner from £45to £50… Damn humanity! Where are we heading?
To economic collapse and then CENTRAL BANK PROGRAMABLE DIGITAL CURRENCY. After that eating bugs, living in pods that we rent and afraid to question our government because of the microchip in our heads.
Check back in 10 years to see how much I got right? 🤷🏻♂️
@@reginaldscot165 didn't expect a tyre review to have this BASED answer but B A S E D.
2024... $60 each in the US.
Use your 23 for front and get 25 for back
I could 👍🏻🙂
Continental are uncomfortable, puncture magnets IME.
Try Schwalbe Durano and Durano Plus for commuting and touring.
5000km on continenetal gp4000sii's. Over gravel, road forests single track. Two punctures which were from shards of glass. So I'd argue you had a bad experience. You dont get lucky over 5000km where I ride trust me.
Its totally just the opposite from part of your comment.
They may be the most comfortable but have 5355 miles on these and there still going. These are the best tires for commuting in any City in America on dry or wet roads
Which tires are you talking about? Durano or Contis?
Sorry you feel that way .🙏🏻
Never heard of 24's
When you fit tyres to some wheels they come out different sizes. For example 23s, often come out 24 or 25. You can also buy 24mm tyres from some brands.
Vittoria Rubino III Pro Slicks here. They are pro... I win.
ClockwiseCycling Oh! Oh! What did you win? :-)
Reginald Scot hug from the lady on the vittoria stand.
ClockwiseCycling Ha Ha, is she nice? ;-)
Reginald Scot I got stickers.
Hey.. you have a good tires... but need a change of bike!!! think about it ;)
+truchitaderio I have now thought about it... i don't get it? :)
i commute with a late 90s specialized hybrid, nothing wrong with this
ride what you like, no point on getting a nice bike and leave hanging on the rack
whiteflame337 Amen Bro!
have fun, ride what you like, and be safe
Conti wheels. IYKYK.
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those with vectran for road/trekking tires are made in germany same like black chilli compounds brethren so quality is unquestionable!! other than that made in india which is crapy
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700 x 23 is the way to go. Better aerodynamic.
Agreed
Can you go into detail about it? I have some 23’s coming in soon. I have some generic 25 x 700 on my bike right now
those aren't schwalbe marathons
True. 🙂
contis forever...
Agreed!
I don't like them, they are hard and vibrate me badly. They are very stiff, but I never had a flat with them.
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Why can't tire manufacturers make a bicycle tire that has 144000 kilometer (90000 mile) mileage? I know. It's because of planned obsolescence...
Compound, the harder the compound the longer it will last, but the less grip you will get.
Stick with 23mm. Don't believe the hype.
sixy69 totally agreed on that
Whooops I might retract my positive comment for the truly terrible Vivaldi quip at the end
I think you might just be the first and only person to get the joke... :)
+Reginald Scot I did actually laugh though so I'll stand by my original comment!!
Ha Ha, glad to hear it! All the best and thanks for the comment.
Used those for my roadbike trip around sardegna, really great grip on road and also on gravel or earth (Used the 25 mm width) and much better puncture resistance than most others while still being fast rolling. The only problem is that the rear tyre was through after about 2000 km, not too bad for racing tyres but will get expensive for commuting at least (about 5000 km a year for me).
So for my commute with the cyclocrosser I'm currently using Schwalbe Marathon Mondial Evo which don't have visible wear after about 3000 km, guess they'll still be fine after 10000. Not available in 25 mm of course, just 35 and wider. Imo perfect for commuting except for the winter months, but the Marathon Winter do very well once it gets icy :)
Continental Gatorskin could be a durable choice for commuting if you're using a roadbike, the grip won't be as awesome of course ;)
Oliver Haag good comment, thanks for the info.
I use the Conti 4000S2 25mm with Conti Race Supersonic tubes (50g each) on my road bike. Great grip, no punctures in more than 5000km of riding / 1 year.