Im just so overwhelmed with this phone. (Camera). Having trouble with how to setup the proper camera settings. But thanks to you and the way you explain it step by step i am beginning to understand. -Thank you.
Thank you. This is the first cellphone I selected because of the camera. I've been a shooter for years and have finally given in to cellphone photography. That old saying about the best camera is the one on you. I've noticed that almost all of my image captures are on cellphones. Although my Galaxy Note 10+ is still functional, the advancements in technology and the fact that even AI for photography is so good, I'm now in the camp. I appreciate the tutorial you've provided. If I weren't into photography and stumbled upon your site, you did an excellent job in explaining the various settings!
Been watching your videos for over a year and I just so happen to purchase the Galaxy s23 Ultra recently so very excited to see more videos. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Thankyou so much for sharing❤ But i still don't know how to use metering correctly. Can you explain each metering example of the image that must be taken? 😊
7:33 Correct about not going past 1600! But going too low is very bad for astrophotography as it introduces read noise. I wouldn't ever go below 400, and I pretty much always shoot in 800 or 1600.
Thanks for this, i saw option iso, speed, ev on my s23+ and had no idea what is it for or how and when to use it untill i watched this video. Great Explenation!
Great video. I have the 22 and was unaware of the Pro mode. I have been using Pro Video. Your lighting must have been very low because I always have to add an ND filter in bright sunlight.
Thanks for this! I'm just starting my YT journey, and that means learning phone photography. This was a really good explanation of all the little thing mere mortals don't always understand!
Thank you Brent for this video! I have an s23 ultra and never knew I had a pro mode because I never clicked on more. It's great that you can use external mics in the usb setting but what if you don’t want to use a mic? Instead you want to sync your pro video with a music background? Is that possible? If it is, how do you sync the audio and video?
I'd recommend it because there are things that make it worth the your S22 U can get you a good trade-in offer. Battery life improvement, performance is much better, cameras get some upgrades, some useful features, and the overall experience is great. The S24 series are supposed to come with Exynos 2400, so if you're not a fan of Exynos, this is something to think about. I'd upgrade if you can get a good price. You can't go wrong with any S23 model. They all are such strong phones and suit the tasks that the average person will want done. Hope this helps! I have an A13 and am upgrading to an S23 model in the summertime as well!
Everybody's different, and everyone's got their own opinions based on their own experiences, budgets, and lifestyles, you know? As for me personally, I wouldn't have upgraded if it weren't for needing to make videos about it for this channel. For me, it wasn't worth the extra money, and while there are plenty of moderate upgraded features, they aren't enough for me to really notice or care in my everyday use, and certainly not for my mobile photography, but again, that's just my own use case and experience. I'll be paying off this S23 Ultra for another 3 years now, and for me, that really sucks.
Three years??? Let me guess, Verizon? My mother just found out a couple of weeks ago that her phone plan was for three years on her S22 that she got last year which is already giving her problems. She didn’t even know.
Bravo.. You are a professional there are simply no words. Good afternoon, I am also a photographer. Say please? Which is better for photos and videos: SONY XPERIA PRO-I, SONY XPERIA 1V or S 23 ultra, your advice please, which one should I take? I'm really looking forward to your response. Thank you very much in advance.
As you have mentioned the wide sensor is the best one, but what would you recommend it you want to zoom in x2-x3, use the telephoto with x3 or digitally zoom in with the wide sensor and maybe apply 50 or 200mp?
I don't think I have a dedicated video to that particular thing, but I did talk about that a lot in my S23 for landscape video. You can find it in my S23 playlist.
Being able to turn down ISO is probably my favorite feature of pro mode for non moving objects you can crank down shutter speed and get some really clean images.
Nice job! I am finding there are to many choices of lenses, yes the options are nice but the main lens should be the best quality. My note 9 images are amazing but from my 23 ultra they are blah. Why is that? I suspect there is so much processing to cleanup the noise created from the high megapixels, what are your thoughts?
Thank you for the detailed video. Like many other Samsung Galaxy users, I find the oversaturated colors absolutely awful. In PRO mode you can limit the saturation somewhat. I wonder if you can do the same for the normal mode with a custom filter. I don't understand the function of the custom filter. Could you set a well graduated photo as a filter so that the colors don't look so unrealistic?
Personally, I prefer pro mode, unless you need the astro or multi exposure features. Pro mode has less shutter lag, and still puts out solid dng files for editing. Just my two cents though.
I feel you man, if it wasn't for this RUclips channel, I wouldn't have upgraded from my S22 Ultra. I was totally fine with that. Thanks for watching though, I appreciate it!
Great video! I'd like to get your take on Expert Raw vs Pro mode and when to use each. Do you talk about that in any of your videos? I've seen some conflicting info online about the differences
I've definitely talked about it in some other recent phone videos. Don't remember exactly which ones. I think I talked about it in the S23 milky way video. Personally, I prefer to just use pro mode, have it set to raw + jpeg, and usually have the pro mode settings set to auto, unless I'm setting up a specific shot that requires some effort, like long exposure waterfalls or astro stuff. I think in general, pro mode does better for most stuff, unless you just need the astro or multiple exposure modes in expert raw (I did a recent video on that too). Pro mode has less lag, and the image quality difference is negligible for most, save the hard core pixel peepers.
It affects the entire exposure. By placing it on spot metering, whatever you have the spot on will be prioritized for "proper" exposure, and the rest will likely be greatly over-exposed. This is good for small, backlit subjects, but will likely blow the rest of the image out, or at least overexpose it more than you might want.
@@BrentHall I apologized, I just rewatched the video and noticed that the EV changed between the 3 modes. So it's the EV that changes which should help expose the picture correctly according to the desired metering mode?
Great tutorial Brent and very useful. Enjoy your trip to Scotland, I live in the UK and go to Scotland every Spring and Autumn. You will love it, are you going ti Isle Of Sky and Mull? Enjoy
Enjoyed your video and have subsequently subscribed. I have the s23 Ultra and am using it to shoot underwater while it's housed in a Divevolk Seatouch 4 Max underwater housing. I'm having difficulty trying to figure out how to set my white balance while underwater. I'm thinking about buying a waterproof white/gray card and then holding it in front of my s23 Ultra while underwater, and look to see what Kelvin Temperature the "AUTO" white balance is showing and then switching my phone over to "MANUAL white balance (putting in whatever Kelvin value was showing while it was on AUTO). Does this sound like a feasible solution to determining underwater white balance, or am I misunderstanding how Auto & Manual white balances work with one another?
Yeah that's tricky. It would really depend on the scene and light. In pro ode it should show you what WB it's using when auto mode, so yeah if that looks good for what you want then you could just lock it down to that value.
Technically expert raw has a bit more color depth I think, but it also has worse shutter lag, and I don't really notice any difference in real world use, so unless I need the astro mode, I tend to just use the pro mode. That's just me though.
Learnt a lot! I've been playing with an Xperia 1 IV for a month and enjoying manual photography. Figured I had the best device for it but tbh, its a terrible phone and I was hoping the ultra series could answer the need for a good pro mode!
Trying to digiscope with this phone, and a 60x spotting scope. The phone focuses sharp and clear, the scope focuses sharp and clear, but when I put them together, the image is blurry. Wonder if a polarizing filter would make a difference.
Thanks John, I'm glad you liked it! I have a couple where I used it to do some astrophotography, both on the S22 and S23 Ultra. No complete walkthroughs like this though, since it's basically the same. The only real differences are the extra bit depth for the images in Expert RAW and the astro mode, everything else is the same as pro mode.
I am new to this channel, and I am very glad I stumbled upon it. I would like to say thank you for this fantastic video, Brent. I recently bought my Samsung S23U, and I would like to start to make pictures and occasionally make videos with it. I still use my Sony NEX-5N to make pictures of my watches (I'm a watch collector) and of the (cup)cakes (my wife bakes beautiful and delicious cakes, cupcakes, cookies, etc). You explain everything so clearly and calmly, and because of that, it makes it much easier to learn how to use the camera. I subscribed to your channel, and I am looking forward to seeing your previous and future videos also. There are also ports of GCam made for the Samsung S23 series and other Samsung Phones. These ports make much better pictures than the stock camera. You might be interested in that and it would be very interesting to hear your opinion about such ports. You can read more about it at: forum.xda-developers.com/t/working-gcam-for-s23-ultra.4550019/ The port I am using is the LMC16 There are also 2 apps called Filmic Pro and Motioncam to film. Filmic Pro can record up to 6K60fps (or 8k24?) including HDR/HLG at 10Bit and gives you an option to "disable" sharpening and noise reduction which gives you room for improvements. MotionCam is RAW video recording. It outperforms ANY phone that uses stock, even Iphone's that are OP in the video department. I would love to hear your opinion about these 2 apps, too. ✌️😃👍 Walter
I noticed that the new Lightroom AI denoise algorithm doesn't work with this phone's recent DNG files. I went back to RAW photos I shot in December, and guess what? Those RAW photos can be denoised by the new LR algorithm! After digging deeper, I realised that something happend in between. Most likely, a firmware update screwed things up. When analysing the EXIF data, we can clearly see that the new DNGs are not uncompressed RAW anymore, but Linear RAW with embedded JPEG compression. This explains why LR AI Denoise doesn't work on these files anymore I suspect that the problem started sometimes in April, when Expert RAW was added as an option inside the default camera app, in Pro mode. Expert RAW always had these linear RAW files (since these are HDR DNGs), and I suspect that when the two things were combined, the Expert RAW DNG generating algoritm replaced the original RAW algorithm. Not good. Also, as a side note: The x3 and x10 sensors have 10Mpix native resolution (3648 x 2736), but the outputs of Expert RAW and the regular camera app in photo mode are 12Mpix (4000 x 3000)! So Expert RAW is upscaling the output of the x3 and x10 cameras. This is not what RAW files are supposed to do. It only confirms that the DNG is in fact a JPEG file in a DNG container.
@BrentHall thanks. I opened a ticked with Samsung. It would be great if more people could do it, to get their attention and prioritize a fix. The problem was identified both on S22 Ultra and an on S23 Ultra.
@mh7711 No. On the contrary. I just got my new S24 Ultra, and it has the same problem with JPEG compression in a DNG container when shooting in PRO mode. There is a change for Expert RAW. It's still using compression, but the exif tool is labeling as "Unknown (52546)". I suspect it's still a lossy compression. The bad news is that Open Camera and Lightoom mobile, which are able to do uncompressed RAW, are not working with S24U. The output of the main camera is scrabled.
@UltimaGaina okay trank you! I got my New s24u,too. I testet out every Mode because I just Want to shoot in raw with every lense and editing them in lightroom But Pro mode and expert mode are disgusting, Pro mode shows lots of fine details but it is very blury and when I start to sharpen in lightroom I get ugly wormy artefacts, and using expert raw the images are way too sharp and less detail, muddy texture, so ugly. The Pro mode jpgs look OK but it is not that what I want.i hope they will fix the modes in further updates.
The EV is just the exposure value given to show how well exposed the scene is. You change it by changing the either the shutter speed or iso, or changing the light in the scene. It's more of a guide for what the camera thinks.
Hello Brent, Thank you for introducing the Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra and Pro mode. I am always fascinated by the possibilities that modern smartphones offer. Sometimes I wonder why I still use a camera for landscape photography or night photography and sometimes also for macro photography. It definitely makes sense to me as I'm still using the old Galaxy S8. For the preparation to an phototripp, to get an overview about the area where I would like arroung is the S8 okay. I'm wondering whether the dynamic range will be the same as in a full frame camera. I would think it won't be the same dynamic range. But I could be wrong about my lack of experience with these modern smartphones. Gretings from Uwe Currently in Sri Lanka
The DR on phones is inherently worse than full frames, though with software enhancements such as AI and HDR, a phone can put out a jpeg that appears much higher in DR. The tech is improving a lot these days, but I still much prefer my full frame cameras.
It just depends on what you want. If you need the highest image quality possible, then the 3:4 is technically it, since that's actual sensor size. So all other modes are cropped into that, including eh full screen and 16:9 modes. In real world use, you may or may not be able to even notice too much of any image quality degradation in those other cropped modes though.
Theoretically, yes, as it supposedly does offer a fractional increase in bit-depth, but in my experience there's no perceptible editing difference between expert raw images and regular pro mode raw images, in fact, I rather prefer and recommend pro mode over expert raw these because of the issues Samsung has created by wrapping their expert raw dng files up in a jpeg exterior. It has ruined expert raw for me and as of right now, pro mode is much better. I made a whole other video about it too, if you want to know more specifics about it. ruclips.net/video/TNT9gds-oaA/видео.html&ab_channel=BrentHall
I have a 200mb option when I use that it is like a cropped shot very beautiful details but I don't understand why some options get lost using 200mb. I liked to do multi shoot of myself in same settings but can't find how to do it. Burst shot only works on regular settings
Bout to go try all this in pro mode on my $200 Redmi Note 8 Pro from 2019 lol. Getting S23 Ultra next week though (hopefully) can't wait to do photography on that!
Hey, as long as it's got some manual controls, it's always worth playing around with and seeing what you can get out of it. 😁 Also, congrats (hopefully) on the new upcoming phone.
@@BrentHall Yeah I just couldn't get the exposure right on my phone lol it'll take me some time to get good in using the Pro Mode. Also, in this video when you said that the 10x telephoto is the worst lens, did you mean that as in night photography because of the high focal length or just the worst in general? And if you meant the latter, is it just capable enough at all? Because the 10xtelephoto is a big selling point to me as I like taking zoomed in pictures. I've actually tried it before too and I genuinely was amazed by it
@@ryderfromgta The 10X is worse quality than the main lens, but that doesn't mean it's a bad lens, just not quite as good, but I personally still use the 10X all the time.
@@BrentHallHey Brent! Well I couldn't get S23 Ultra, it has been discontinued for the card I was about to use on it. S24 Ultra is available though. Can you suggest me/tell me about the major camera differences between the 2? How's the performance of S24 Ultra at 10x as compared to S23 Ultra? Should I sit this out and wait for the S25 Ultra (till the end of January)?
Personally, unless I want to use the astro mode in expert raw, I just use pro mode. The expert raw mode is a bit slower with the shutter lag, and though it does give a little more in terms of bit depth, I find it's not really noticeable over the raw images from pro mode.
@@BrentHall I tried both modes for the same scene and found the expert raw dng to have more saturated colours and better noise suppression compared to the raw dng. But the shutter lag you mentioned is quite evident in expert raw.
Is there any reason (other than Astro and ND), to use Expert RAW over using Pro Raw? From what I've experienced, the expert is over processed and too sharp, while Pro is a tiny bit softer yet more accurate colourwise in their RAW takes. Does the higher bit rate in Expert make much difference to want to favor that mode overall?
Recently I´ve noticed a crop in frame when using stabilization mode in videos, all 3 lenses, so I´m wondering if it´s worth it or not, you get a bit wider shot when it´s off, and because you can always use stabilization in post. I´m using S22+ Exynos.. have you noticed the same?
All digital stabilizers will crop into the frame in order to stabilize it. How much it crops in depends on the level of smoothness it's creating. It's also usually more noticeable on longer focal lengths as there's typically more camera shake with them.
I just tried to upload a photo taken with my 22s to Dreamstime. They require a minimum of 3200 pixels, which the 22s lacks. Open Cmera delivers 4000 pixels. Most stock photo houses require 3200. I guess I will be stuck using the 4k pro video
I always used Pro Mode on my S22 Ultra. But the raw files on the S23 Ultra are so bad... There is so much color noise which I can't fix with Lightroom mobile. Is there anything I can do about it?
I've had good luck with the new Lightroom and camera raw update for the AI noise feature. It does an incredible job with both luminance and color noise.
Can I manually focus the 10x zoom camera without a third party app? I want to add a 2x clip on moment lens to the 10x telephoto camera and will have to refocus the image. Thanks
@@BrentHall Anything we can do about it? Direct the medias attention? Also ExpertRAW seems to be a complete scam according to a thread in Adobe Communities / Camera RAW section, the content of the dng files shows heavy color banding and looks worse than the embedded preview.
@donnawetter1513 yeah, I made a video about it a while ago. It didn't get much attention. It's definitely a shame about expert raw mode now. Though they did recently add electronic nd filters to it and I made a video about that too. So far I like them. My biggest issue with expert raw is so the astro and low light stuff.
If you're trying to get smooth water shots, then you need a slow shutter speed, and usually the lowest iso you can get. To do that during the day when it's bright, you'll have to have an nd filter. If you don't want to have to use an nd filter then you can still do it, but you'll have to wait until it's darker outside so there's not so much ambient light.
@@dmitryche8905 There is a new multiple exposure mode in the expert raw app that tries to do it, but it's not very good. I made a whole video about it. The nd filters did a much better job.
Why is the file size smaller in pro mode then in photo.? I was getting a sharper photo in photo mode at 3x zoom as pro mode 3xzoom. Photo mode file size was 3.1mb and pro mode it was 1.3mb.
idk why your pro mode images are that small. Are you looking at the dngs or the jpegs from pro mode, because it puts out both if you have it set that way. My pro mode dngs are all 30-40mb. Also, pro mode images always appear softer than the same jpeg because the phone edits the image and adds things like saturation, contrast, and sharpening, all of which add perceived sharpness to an image, and pro mode dngs are just the raw files with no in-camera editing or compression. So you'll have to do a bit of editing work to make them look better.
Wow, this is literally the best tutorial for the most intimidating aspect of the smartphone camera settings for people not familiar with photography.
Hey thanks for that, I really appreciate it and I'm glad it helped!
learnt more in 30 min than i have in 2 weeks of having the s23 ultra thanks Brent. keep up the good work.
Hey thanks, I'm really glad the video helped!
I promise you! He's the truth for sure!
3 years ago i learn how to use pro mode on mobile phones.
love you since then.
Im just so overwhelmed with this phone. (Camera). Having trouble with how to setup the proper camera settings. But thanks to you and the way you explain it step by step i am beginning to understand. -Thank you.
Hey thanks, I'm glad my videos are helping!
Thank you. This is the first cellphone I selected because of the camera. I've been a shooter for years and have finally given in to cellphone photography. That old saying about the best camera is the one on you. I've noticed that almost all of my image captures are on cellphones. Although my Galaxy Note 10+ is still functional, the advancements in technology and the fact that even AI for photography is so good, I'm now in the camp. I appreciate the tutorial you've provided. If I weren't into photography and stumbled upon your site, you did an excellent job in explaining the various settings!
Thanks man, I appreciate the kind words, and I'm glad the video helped!
This is a hidden gem. This video start like a National geography documentary but gives a bunch of extremely important knowledge. Love the video.
Thanks, I'm glad it helped!
Thank you very much for enlightening us on how to use Pro mode
That's super cool the "hangy thing" my kind of descriptor...
Been watching your videos for over a year and I just so happen to purchase the Galaxy s23 Ultra recently so very excited to see more videos. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
You bet man, thanks for sticking around!
Excellent photo at the end with telephoto lens. Great details even when zooming the video
Thankyou so much for sharing❤
But i still don't know how to use metering correctly. Can you explain each metering example of the image that must be taken? 😊
For what the phone is and what it can do is OUTSTANDING samsung has really done it before their time.
7:33 Correct about not going past 1600! But going too low is very bad for astrophotography as it introduces read noise. I wouldn't ever go below 400, and I pretty much always shoot in 800 or 1600.
Thanks for this, i saw option iso, speed, ev on my s23+ and had no idea what is it for or how and when to use it untill i watched this video.
Great Explenation!
You're welcome, I'm glad it helped!
Watching from my s24 ultra... 1 minutes in and learned more about photography then I have my whole life
That's awesome, I'm glad it helped!
I'm a beginner in photography, This video made me feel like a pro 😊😊
Great video. I have the 22 and was unaware of the Pro mode. I have been using Pro Video. Your lighting must have been very low because I always have to add an ND filter in bright sunlight.
Amazing as always, Brent! Keep up the great work! I've learned a lot about my S23 ultra
is there pro video on S23+ ? Please reply. Thank You
Thanks for the great tutorial! A+ for your smooth vocal presentation!
Thanks, I'm lad you enjoyed it!
Nice video! Can you tell me what is the difference between pro and expert raw modes?
These two shots in low light look incredible compared to what they appear to look like on the tiny screen, wow
Are they edited?
Got the s23 ultra for my birthday and this video helped tremendously.
Oh nice, happy belated birthday, and I'm glad the video helped!
@BrentHall thank you so much :) I went from an iPhone X to this so its a whole new world lol.
Thanks for this! I'm just starting my YT journey, and that means learning phone photography. This was a really good explanation of all the little thing mere mortals don't always understand!
You bet man, I'm glad it helped!
great tutorial. how do you add pro mode to the portrait photo video more list?
This was a great video for the pro mode. Could you please do one on using the pro mode for macro photography.
Thank you Brent for this video! I have an s23 ultra and never knew I had a pro mode because I never clicked on more. It's great that you can use external mics in the usb setting but what if you don’t want to use a mic? Instead you want to sync your pro video with a music background? Is that possible? If it is, how do you sync the audio and video?
Do you think it is worth upgrading from the S22 Ultra or should i just wait for next year's S24 U?
I'd recommend it because there are things that make it worth the your S22 U can get you a good trade-in offer. Battery life improvement, performance is much better, cameras get some upgrades, some useful features, and the overall experience is great. The S24 series are supposed to come with Exynos 2400, so if you're not a fan of Exynos, this is something to think about. I'd upgrade if you can get a good price. You can't go wrong with any S23 model. They all are such strong phones and suit the tasks that the average person will want done. Hope this helps! I have an A13 and am upgrading to an S23 model in the summertime as well!
No it’s not worth it
S24 will be worth for ur s22 u
The longer u wait the bigger the difference will be
Everybody's different, and everyone's got their own opinions based on their own experiences, budgets, and lifestyles, you know? As for me personally, I wouldn't have upgraded if it weren't for needing to make videos about it for this channel. For me, it wasn't worth the extra money, and while there are plenty of moderate upgraded features, they aren't enough for me to really notice or care in my everyday use, and certainly not for my mobile photography, but again, that's just my own use case and experience. I'll be paying off this S23 Ultra for another 3 years now, and for me, that really sucks.
Three years??? Let me guess, Verizon? My mother just found out a couple of weeks ago that her phone plan was for three years on her S22 that she got last year which is already giving her problems. She didn’t even know.
The battery improvement is massive. I'd recommend upgrading just for that honestly but that's just my opinion.
Bravo.. You are a professional there are simply no words. Good afternoon, I am also a photographer. Say please? Which is better for photos and videos: SONY XPERIA PRO-I, SONY XPERIA 1V or S 23 ultra, your advice please, which one should I take? I'm really looking forward to your response. Thank you very much in advance.
I've never used either of those Sony models so I have no idea how they compare to the S23 Ultra.
@@BrentHall Thank you very much!
As you have mentioned the wide sensor is the best one, but what would you recommend it you want to zoom in x2-x3, use the telephoto with x3 or digitally zoom in with the wide sensor and maybe apply 50 or 200mp?
I use the 3x zoom quite often. It's pretty good.
Thank you. Good explanations. I learn using s23 ultra from your video. Keep it up sir.
Nice. Is there a video where you teach how to compose shots and play with light for mobile photography using s23 ultra?
I don't think I have a dedicated video to that particular thing, but I did talk about that a lot in my S23 for landscape video. You can find it in my S23 playlist.
Being able to turn down ISO is probably my favorite feature of pro mode for non moving objects you can crank down shutter speed and get some really clean images.
Nice job! I am finding there are to many choices of lenses, yes the options are nice but the main lens should be the best quality. My note 9 images are amazing but from my 23 ultra they are blah. Why is that? I suspect there is so much processing to cleanup the noise created from the high megapixels, what are your thoughts?
Thank you Sir Brent for the helpful tutorial. I'm new to your channel. May I know the specs of your tripod?
This is all so new to me. And maybe this is a dumb question. But how are you getting the aspect ratio to 4:3 and 16:9. I can't figure it out
So helpful. thank you. Noone else comes close
What settings ypu recomended for landscape photography with s23 ultra in pro mode or expert raw
Thank you for the detailed video. Like many other Samsung Galaxy users, I find the oversaturated colors absolutely awful. In PRO mode you can limit the saturation somewhat. I wonder if you can do the same for the normal mode with a custom filter. I don't understand the function of the custom filter. Could you set a well graduated photo as a filter so that the colors don't look so unrealistic?
Your way of teaching is just mind blowing man I mean I've learned all the basic thankyou so much
Hey thanks, I'm glad I could help, and I appreciate the kind words!
does pro mode’s color much more natural than normal mode?
Hello excellent video to understand the pro mode. Although do you think expert raw will give me better results?
Personally, I prefer pro mode, unless you need the astro or multi exposure features. Pro mode has less shutter lag, and still puts out solid dng files for editing. Just my two cents though.
I just bought my s23u last week im kinda bit dissapointed with camera quality but i wish this video helps me
I feel you man, if it wasn't for this RUclips channel, I wouldn't have upgraded from my S22 Ultra. I was totally fine with that. Thanks for watching though, I appreciate it!
Great video! I'd like to get your take on Expert Raw vs Pro mode and when to use each. Do you talk about that in any of your videos? I've seen some conflicting info online about the differences
I've definitely talked about it in some other recent phone videos. Don't remember exactly which ones. I think I talked about it in the S23 milky way video. Personally, I prefer to just use pro mode, have it set to raw + jpeg, and usually have the pro mode settings set to auto, unless I'm setting up a specific shot that requires some effort, like long exposure waterfalls or astro stuff. I think in general, pro mode does better for most stuff, unless you just need the astro or multiple exposure modes in expert raw (I did a recent video on that too). Pro mode has less lag, and the image quality difference is negligible for most, save the hard core pixel peepers.
Regarding spot metering, i understand the different modes, but what does it exactly change? Like what setting does it affect?
It affects the entire exposure. By placing it on spot metering, whatever you have the spot on will be prioritized for "proper" exposure, and the rest will likely be greatly over-exposed. This is good for small, backlit subjects, but will likely blow the rest of the image out, or at least overexpose it more than you might want.
@@BrentHall I apologized, I just rewatched the video and noticed that the EV changed between the 3 modes. So it's the EV that changes which should help expose the picture correctly according to the desired metering mode?
Great tutorial Brent and very useful. Enjoy your trip to Scotland, I live in the UK and go to Scotland every Spring and Autumn. You will love it, are you going ti Isle Of Sky and Mull? Enjoy
Thanks man, I appreciate that! We'll be kind of all over the place, from Inverness, to Skye, to Aberdeen areas.
awesome video as always very detailed explaining promode
Hello. Could you tell me what template you use?
Enjoyed your video and have subsequently subscribed. I have the s23 Ultra and am using it to shoot underwater while it's housed in a Divevolk Seatouch 4 Max underwater housing. I'm having difficulty trying to figure out how to set my white balance while underwater. I'm thinking about buying a waterproof white/gray card and then holding it in front of my s23 Ultra while underwater, and look to see what Kelvin Temperature the "AUTO" white balance is showing and then switching my phone over to "MANUAL white balance (putting in whatever Kelvin value was showing while it was on AUTO). Does this sound like a feasible solution to determining underwater white balance, or am I misunderstanding how Auto & Manual white balances work with one another?
Yeah that's tricky. It would really depend on the scene and light. In pro ode it should show you what WB it's using when auto mode, so yeah if that looks good for what you want then you could just lock it down to that value.
Hi, would you say the Pro mode is better than the Expert Raw? I'm trying both and see a difference, which would you advise I use? Thanks!
Technically expert raw has a bit more color depth I think, but it also has worse shutter lag, and I don't really notice any difference in real world use, so unless I need the astro mode, I tend to just use the pro mode. That's just me though.
@@BrentHall Hi, pro mode i guess is the better option than the normal mode for more natural looking photos?
So I am new to the phone using it correctly and this is awesome.
Thanks man, I'm glad it helped!
Very good, keep it up.
Please show the camera screen even more than you already do :)
Learnt a lot! I've been playing with an Xperia 1 IV for a month and enjoying manual photography. Figured I had the best device for it but tbh, its a terrible phone and I was hoping the ultra series could answer the need for a good pro mode!
Trying to digiscope with this phone, and a 60x spotting scope. The phone focuses sharp and clear, the scope focuses sharp and clear, but when I put them together, the image is blurry. Wonder if a polarizing filter would make a difference.
Great content!!! Any vids on Expert Raw?
Thanks John, I'm glad you liked it! I have a couple where I used it to do some astrophotography, both on the S22 and S23 Ultra. No complete walkthroughs like this though, since it's basically the same. The only real differences are the extra bit depth for the images in Expert RAW and the astro mode, everything else is the same as pro mode.
Love the new phone, do you know if it's possible to record at 4k 120fps on the s23 Ultra?
I think you can only do 4k 60 or 1080 240.
Thanks for the great video Brent, lots of info to digest. Take care of that shoulder.
I am new to this channel, and I am very glad I stumbled upon it. I would like to say thank you for this fantastic video, Brent. I recently bought my Samsung S23U, and I would like to start to make pictures and occasionally make videos with it. I still use my Sony NEX-5N to make pictures of my watches (I'm a watch collector) and of the (cup)cakes (my wife bakes beautiful and delicious cakes, cupcakes, cookies, etc). You explain everything so clearly and calmly, and because of that, it makes it much easier to learn how to use the camera. I subscribed to your channel, and I am looking forward to seeing your previous and future videos also.
There are also ports of GCam made for the Samsung S23 series and other Samsung Phones. These ports make much better pictures than the stock camera. You might be interested in that and it would be very interesting to hear your opinion about such ports. You can read more about it at: forum.xda-developers.com/t/working-gcam-for-s23-ultra.4550019/
The port I am using is the LMC16
There are also 2 apps called Filmic Pro and Motioncam to film. Filmic Pro can record up to 6K60fps (or 8k24?) including HDR/HLG at 10Bit and gives you an option to "disable" sharpening and noise reduction which gives you room for improvements.
MotionCam is RAW video recording. It outperforms ANY phone that uses stock, even Iphone's that are OP in the video department.
I would love to hear your opinion about these 2 apps, too.
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I noticed that the new Lightroom AI denoise algorithm doesn't work with this phone's recent DNG files.
I went back to RAW photos I shot in December, and guess what? Those RAW photos can be denoised by the new LR algorithm!
After digging deeper, I realised that something happend in between.
Most likely, a firmware update screwed things up.
When analysing the EXIF data, we can clearly see that the new DNGs are not uncompressed RAW anymore, but Linear RAW with embedded JPEG compression.
This explains why LR AI Denoise doesn't work on these files anymore
I suspect that the problem started sometimes in April, when Expert RAW was added as an option inside the default camera app, in Pro mode.
Expert RAW always had these linear RAW files (since these are HDR DNGs), and I suspect that when the two things were combined, the Expert RAW DNG generating algoritm replaced the original RAW algorithm. Not good.
Also, as a side note: The x3 and x10 sensors have 10Mpix native resolution (3648 x 2736), but the outputs of Expert RAW and the regular camera app in photo mode are 12Mpix (4000 x 3000)!
So Expert RAW is upscaling the output of the x3 and x10 cameras. This is not what RAW files are supposed to do. It only confirms that the DNG is in fact a JPEG file in a DNG container.
Oh man, I've been wondering about some of that stuff! Seriously great comment. Thanks posting, and digging into it!
@BrentHall thanks. I opened a ticked with Samsung. It would be great if more people could do it, to get their attention and prioritize a fix. The problem was identified both on S22 Ultra and an on S23 Ultra.
@@UltimaGainasomethinh New Here?
@mh7711 No. On the contrary. I just got my new S24 Ultra, and it has the same problem with JPEG compression in a DNG container when shooting in PRO mode.
There is a change for Expert RAW. It's still using compression, but the exif tool is labeling as "Unknown (52546)".
I suspect it's still a lossy compression.
The bad news is that Open Camera and Lightoom mobile, which are able to do uncompressed RAW, are not working with S24U. The output of the main camera is scrabled.
@UltimaGaina okay trank you! I got my New s24u,too. I testet out every Mode because I just Want to shoot in raw with every lense and editing them in lightroom But Pro mode and expert mode are disgusting, Pro mode shows lots of fine details but it is very blury and when I start to sharpen in lightroom I get ugly wormy artefacts, and using expert raw the images are way too sharp and less detail, muddy texture, so ugly. The Pro mode jpgs look OK but it is not that what I want.i hope they will fix the modes in further updates.
Thanks for this video. I learned a lot liked and subscribed.
You're welcome, I'm glad it helped!
Thank you, this was very insightful! You've helped me a lot!
You're welcome, I'm glad it helped!
Your voice is very calming. Fcking great job on this tutorial. THANK YOU!! 🥰
Thanks., I appreciate that and I'm glad you liked the video!
Hey Brent, so regarding the EV should that really even be touched at all?
The EV is just the exposure value given to show how well exposed the scene is. You change it by changing the either the shutter speed or iso, or changing the light in the scene. It's more of a guide for what the camera thinks.
thank you very much,... this is very informative
You're welcome, I'm glad it helped!
Hello Brent, Thank you for introducing the Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra and Pro mode. I am always fascinated by the possibilities that modern smartphones offer. Sometimes I wonder why I still use a camera for landscape photography or night photography and sometimes also for macro photography. It definitely makes sense to me as I'm still using the old Galaxy S8. For the preparation to an phototripp, to get an overview about the area where I would like arroung is the S8 okay.
I'm wondering whether the dynamic range will be the same as in a full frame camera. I would think it won't be the same dynamic range. But I could be wrong about my lack of experience with these modern smartphones.
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The DR on phones is inherently worse than full frames, though with software enhancements such as AI and HDR, a phone can put out a jpeg that appears much higher in DR. The tech is improving a lot these days, but I still much prefer my full frame cameras.
@@BrentHall Thanks Brent for sharing this information! I'm 100% with you. I also prefer my full frame camera.
@@BrentHall Phones with properly set gcam already beat dslrs in low light granted the phone uses single frame
Do you recommend 3:4 in pro mode to get the best or automatic mode too.I prefered 16:9 in automatic because it simply looked better on the screen...
It just depends on what you want. If you need the highest image quality possible, then the 3:4 is technically it, since that's actual sensor size. So all other modes are cropped into that, including eh full screen and 16:9 modes. In real world use, you may or may not be able to even notice too much of any image quality degradation in those other cropped modes though.
@@BrentHall thanks for the fast reply 💥💗
Awesome video man, thanks for making this. I appreciate it! Now I can really start taking some awesome photos!
You're welcome, I'm glad it helped!
Even though it's older alot of this helped for my 22 ultra
I'm glad it helped!
Doesn't expert raw allow you to edit photos more than pro mode after taking the photo?
Theoretically, yes, as it supposedly does offer a fractional increase in bit-depth, but in my experience there's no perceptible editing difference between expert raw images and regular pro mode raw images, in fact, I rather prefer and recommend pro mode over expert raw these because of the issues Samsung has created by wrapping their expert raw dng files up in a jpeg exterior. It has ruined expert raw for me and as of right now, pro mode is much better. I made a whole other video about it too, if you want to know more specifics about it.
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Super helpful, thanks!
Thank you for this amazing informative video
Great insights - thank you!
I have a 200mb option when I use that it is like a cropped shot very beautiful details but I don't understand why some options get lost using 200mb. I liked to do multi shoot of myself in same settings but can't find how to do it. Burst shot only works on regular settings
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Awesome stuff! Big help
Bout to go try all this in pro mode on my $200 Redmi Note 8 Pro from 2019 lol. Getting S23 Ultra next week though (hopefully) can't wait to do photography on that!
Hey, as long as it's got some manual controls, it's always worth playing around with and seeing what you can get out of it. 😁 Also, congrats (hopefully) on the new upcoming phone.
@@BrentHall Yeah I just couldn't get the exposure right on my phone lol it'll take me some time to get good in using the Pro Mode. Also, in this video when you said that the 10x telephoto is the worst lens, did you mean that as in night photography because of the high focal length or just the worst in general? And if you meant the latter, is it just capable enough at all? Because the 10xtelephoto is a big selling point to me as I like taking zoomed in pictures. I've actually tried it before too and I genuinely was amazed by it
@@ryderfromgta The 10X is worse quality than the main lens, but that doesn't mean it's a bad lens, just not quite as good, but I personally still use the 10X all the time.
@@BrentHall ohh alright, thanks for the info. Bout to watch the rest of the S23 Ultra videos
@@BrentHallHey Brent! Well I couldn't get S23 Ultra, it has been discontinued for the card I was about to use on it. S24 Ultra is available though. Can you suggest me/tell me about the major camera differences between the 2? How's the performance of S24 Ultra at 10x as compared to S23 Ultra? Should I sit this out and wait for the S25 Ultra (till the end of January)?
worth watching 😊
Which is better in ur opinion, expert raw or pro mode?
Personally, unless I want to use the astro mode in expert raw, I just use pro mode. The expert raw mode is a bit slower with the shutter lag, and though it does give a little more in terms of bit depth, I find it's not really noticeable over the raw images from pro mode.
@@BrentHall I tried both modes for the same scene and found the expert raw dng to have more saturated colours and better noise suppression compared to the raw dng. But the shutter lag you mentioned is quite evident in expert raw.
Is there any reason (other than Astro and ND), to use Expert RAW over using Pro Raw? From what I've experienced, the expert is over processed and too sharp, while Pro is a tiny bit softer yet more accurate colourwise in their RAW takes. Does the higher bit rate in Expert make much difference to want to favor that mode overall?
Nope
Does pro mode work with telephoto lenses too?
Yes it does.
@@BrentHall thank you!
Great vid, thanks
thank you. very helpful.
Recently I´ve noticed a crop in frame when using stabilization mode in videos, all 3 lenses, so I´m wondering if it´s worth it or not, you get a bit wider shot when it´s off, and because you can always use stabilization in post. I´m using S22+ Exynos.. have you noticed the same?
All digital stabilizers will crop into the frame in order to stabilize it. How much it crops in depends on the level of smoothness it's creating. It's also usually more noticeable on longer focal lengths as there's typically more camera shake with them.
Is there any hack to use Pro Mode as default when smartphone is locked? Currently it's only possible in Auto Mode.
Amazing. I'm going to devour your content. The ISO video is next!
Many thanks!
Good one mate
I just tried to upload a photo taken with my 22s to Dreamstime. They require a minimum of 3200 pixels, which the 22s lacks. Open Cmera delivers 4000 pixels. Most stock photo houses require 3200. I guess I will be stuck using the 4k pro video
I always used Pro Mode on my S22 Ultra. But the raw files on the S23 Ultra are so bad... There is so much color noise which I can't fix with Lightroom mobile. Is there anything I can do about it?
I've had good luck with the new Lightroom and camera raw update for the AI noise feature. It does an incredible job with both luminance and color noise.
Amazing Tutorial!!
Many thanks!
Can I manually focus the 10x zoom camera without a third party app? I want to add a 2x clip on moment lens to the 10x telephoto camera and will have to refocus the image. Thanks
Yes you can.
@@BrentHall Thank you!
@jeffreydouglas351 sure thing man, good luck with it! 😁
Really helpful
What do you think about the change that Samsung now puts a jpg in the dng container instead of a real raw?
I dislike it...a lot.
@@BrentHall Anything we can do about it? Direct the medias attention? Also ExpertRAW seems to be a complete scam according to a thread in Adobe Communities / Camera RAW section, the content of the dng files shows heavy color banding and looks worse than the embedded preview.
@donnawetter1513 yeah, I made a video about it a while ago. It didn't get much attention. It's definitely a shame about expert raw mode now. Though they did recently add electronic nd filters to it and I made a video about that too. So far I like them. My biggest issue with expert raw is so the astro and low light stuff.
@@BrentHall At least ProMode is still trying, ExpertRAW outputs nothing useable.
@@BrentHall I just did a test with my S24U, ProMode: the accompanying jpg has more highlight recovery then the actual dng, it became a complete fake.
can you take beautiful pictures of water without an ND filter only by lowering the iso?
If you're trying to get smooth water shots, then you need a slow shutter speed, and usually the lowest iso you can get. To do that during the day when it's bright, you'll have to have an nd filter. If you don't want to have to use an nd filter then you can still do it, but you'll have to wait until it's darker outside so there's not so much ambient light.
@@BrentHall I thought it was already possible to do this with artificial intelligence or "filters"
@@dmitryche8905 There is a new multiple exposure mode in the expert raw app that tries to do it, but it's not very good. I made a whole video about it. The nd filters did a much better job.
@@BrentHall thank you very much. I didn’t mean not only playing with exposure and iso, but photo stacking or blending.
Does it shoot 4k 50/60fps log video with native app?
4k 60 yes, log, no.
Pls help I am getting purple ring issue in pro mode iso under 320 lens ring visible night time
Why is the file size smaller in pro mode then in photo.? I was getting a sharper photo in photo mode at 3x zoom as pro mode 3xzoom. Photo mode file size was 3.1mb and pro mode it was 1.3mb.
idk why your pro mode images are that small. Are you looking at the dngs or the jpegs from pro mode, because it puts out both if you have it set that way. My pro mode dngs are all 30-40mb. Also, pro mode images always appear softer than the same jpeg because the phone edits the image and adds things like saturation, contrast, and sharpening, all of which add perceived sharpness to an image, and pro mode dngs are just the raw files with no in-camera editing or compression. So you'll have to do a bit of editing work to make them look better.
it over proces photos even in pro mode.... can i turn it of? Video is over sharpen ... 🤔
The S23 Ultra is a legend😃 with all these settings to play around with and people still say that iPhones are better 😥😥😥
Luv Samsung product