Dave Mustaine - Spider Chord Hand Changes demonstration.flv

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  • @ianspeckmaier7344
    @ianspeckmaier7344 11 лет назад +1997

    "my previous band" Lol

    • @tyreekmurillo4524
      @tyreekmurillo4524 10 лет назад +79

      cant tell if metallica or panic

    • @lucaszukunft7231
      @lucaszukunft7231 10 лет назад +94

      Tyreek Murillo Propably Metallica, he does that thing in Ride the Lightning too

    • @tyreekmurillo4524
      @tyreekmurillo4524 10 лет назад +56

      he doesnt like bringing up metallica at all.

    • @canonrocksome
      @canonrocksome 10 лет назад +6

      Tyreek Murillo I mean there was MD.45

    • @RTOneZer0
      @RTOneZer0 7 лет назад +79

      He was trying to be humble. He didn't need to brag about his creative and profoundly deep influence in Metallica.

  • @pedropereira8805
    @pedropereira8805 9 лет назад +1907

    "my previous band" :)

    • @TheJayBee1990
      @TheJayBee1990 9 лет назад +90

      +Pedro Pereira I don't get why he can't just say in Metallica.... you know it's like: "yeah that one nice riff from ride the lightning, I wrote that!" he can be proud of his contribution to metallica and he can be very fucking proud of forming his own band and make enough money from it to have a nice live and play on the same stages as metallica... he got kicked out of metallica, yes they are more famous than him or his band, but he managed to get back alone andduring time to work with such talented fuckers like marty friedman or chris broderick, so what's the deal? you wanna be an alcoholic and have an embarrasing documentary about it? you wanna produce a movie only die hard fans watch and you lose money from it?
      I think dave is the winner, sure he's not as rich as any metallica member but with the advantage of not being recognized everywhere he goes etc.

    • @__2561
      @__2561 9 лет назад +57

      +JayBee Jones badass... who cares, he's the ONLY person who can say he gets royalty checks from Metallica AND Megadeth.

    • @satanicwarlock9857
      @satanicwarlock9857 8 лет назад

      Leave

    • @megatonesilva6546
      @megatonesilva6546 8 лет назад +17

      Stay

    • @Kyle-hm7ee
      @Kyle-hm7ee 7 лет назад +17

      "The other guys" xD

  • @jezza10181
    @jezza10181 3 года назад +94

    Dave's a great teacher... I'll be trying his spider chord thing soon

    • @jezza10181
      @jezza10181 2 года назад +2

      @@NubsWithGuns I have a guitar yes, I am just eager to try new things you know when I see them

    • @cycomiles4225
      @cycomiles4225 9 месяцев назад

      @@jezza10181 He says to downpick them, but he doesn't down pick them live. His hand is constantly going up and down when striking a chord.

  • @jeromychavez6121
    @jeromychavez6121 7 лет назад +342

    "Nobody rocked louder, harder or Faster than Dave Mustaine!"
    -Duck Dodgers

    • @CalebePriester
      @CalebePriester 7 лет назад +30

      That episode was so funny LOL
      "Genetically engineered in a lab and raised by wolverines Dave Mustaine went on to become the heart and soul of Megadeth"

    • @caspianhorlick4529
      @caspianhorlick4529 7 лет назад +4

      I'm the best at what I do, but what I do isn't very nice. Dave Mustaine is Wolverine in real life confirmed.

    • @jeromychavez6121
      @jeromychavez6121 7 лет назад +3

      Now that I think of it... the quote should read more "Nobody rocked louder, harder or FaThThTur than Dave MuThThTaine!!!!!"

    • @MatthewJBRO
      @MatthewJBRO 5 лет назад

      Jeromy Chavez take my upvote and get the eff out.

  • @ryanduray1
    @ryanduray1 8 лет назад +251

    Mustaine is a monster and Holy Wars-The Punishment Due is a metal masterpiece.

    • @A_Final_Hit
      @A_Final_Hit 7 лет назад +3

      BlackDogsMatter True. It's just too bad that he's such a complete dick.

    • @HubertDrumsCovers
      @HubertDrumsCovers 6 лет назад +19

      Almost every Megadeth song is a Masterpiece.

    • @kevinrodriguez9701
      @kevinrodriguez9701 6 лет назад +1

      They sure are

    • @safstar0184
      @safstar0184 3 года назад

      Jason M wrong
      Long live mustaine the metal god.

  • @ManicMovesDrowsyDreams
    @ManicMovesDrowsyDreams Год назад +9

    Love how detail oriented he is. Recognizing string noise is a problem and how to avoid it and save time at the same time. Really cool.

  • @ashchaya7676
    @ashchaya7676 8 лет назад +970

    Jeez. Don't you guys know anything? His previous band was Motley Crue.

  • @CalebePriester
    @CalebePriester 9 лет назад +513

    I love Dave mustaine. The guy is a genius, You have to respect that even with all the shit he says

    • @paul1720
      @paul1720 8 лет назад +4

      'Genius' LOL

    • @CalebePriester
      @CalebePriester 8 лет назад +15

      Al humphits He truly is a music genius... not like Mozart or Bach but in heavy music the guy is a genius... or was... megadeth is shit nowadays...

    • @luckydominguez2654
      @luckydominguez2654 8 лет назад +12

      he´s dynamic and unnconventional so he donpt play as usual metal players do, that´s why he appears to be that smart at the guitar, but from the practical point of view he just make nonsense shit

    • @CalebePriester
      @CalebePriester 8 лет назад +15

      lucky dominguez Are you saying that he is not a good guitar player? Is that what you said? And he is a smart person... I don't say that because I'm a fan...
      There was this show where he appears once and he beat all the other players... It was a show about "quest and answer"... The day I watched that video I realized he is not just good at guitar but also a smart guy

    • @luckydominguez2654
      @luckydominguez2654 8 лет назад +6

      Calebe Priester i´m saying he´s unnconvencional for playing guitar and there´s why he´s so smart at playing guitar, cause he does a lot of things that don´t make any sense but that sound good as damn (like bassically 90% of thrash guitar players). And yup, he´s still a very smart person and really great music composer. BUT! saddly, he´s a very overrated guitar player when comes to soloing, people put him like in a God level when he actually barely play different solos.

  • @punman5392
    @punman5392 6 лет назад +30

    “Symphony of Instruction” I’m dead now.

  • @vitorgoncalves9054
    @vitorgoncalves9054 10 лет назад +110

    Great Dave ,this man deserves all my respect \m/

  • @johndeeregreen4592
    @johndeeregreen4592 6 лет назад +19

    The greatest riffers don't always do the most complicated playing; they know how to do the most with little effort.

  • @peteirie1075
    @peteirie1075 7 лет назад +6

    Such a slick player. Ive always admired D. Mustaine's playing

  • @myamarana69
    @myamarana69 8 лет назад +70

    damn...he was so down to earth while doing that video...wow...

  • @justanotherguitarplayer9767
    @justanotherguitarplayer9767 5 лет назад +97

    Symphony of instruction 😂😂🔫💀

    • @RaspiRoope
      @RaspiRoope 5 лет назад +2

      Why do you use emojis that don't even fit?

    • @lukainthenight
      @lukainthenight 4 года назад +1

      @@RaspiRoope literally in tears

  • @willissudweeks1050
    @willissudweeks1050 4 года назад +8

    Hell yes thank you Dave. Just that little technique did huge things for me. I’m using it in a lot of different ways. I’m not going to listen to nobodies ramble about theory and stuff I’m just gonna watch legends like Dave.

  • @megatonesilva6546
    @megatonesilva6546 8 лет назад +430

    His other band???....Those other guys????.....who the hell is he talking about?

    • @Slanderous
      @Slanderous 8 лет назад +10

      Metallica dude!

    • @megatonesilva6546
      @megatonesilva6546 8 лет назад +3

      I know........Right.

    • @chaseostman4188
      @chaseostman4188 8 лет назад +7

      naaaaaahhhhh that's you bro

    • @RangerRobot
      @RangerRobot 8 лет назад +11

      VEHICROS DUDE! DON'T YOU EVER TALK SHIT ABOUT METALLICA!!

    • @VEHICROS
      @VEHICROS 8 лет назад +5

      I used to like Metallica when I was a kid, but not anymore, sorry

  • @arsxxmoriendi
    @arsxxmoriendi 2 года назад +2

    The song from his "previous band" he's pretending not to remember is Ride the Lightning.

  • @danmcamis4887
    @danmcamis4887 11 лет назад +156

    He also did that in his "previous" band lol

    • @rockerseven
      @rockerseven 11 лет назад +2

      that made me laugh a bit when he said that lol

    • @Legotian
      @Legotian 11 лет назад +14

      Are you sure he just wasn't talking about Panic?

    • @daveberggren
      @daveberggren 11 лет назад +7

      Caleb Shenefelt My first thougt was the song ride the lightning.. :)

    • @Stealthy_PandaxX
      @Stealthy_PandaxX 11 лет назад

      David Berggren ride the lightning wasn't in the kill em all album so it couldn't be.

    • @RodZ-O
      @RodZ-O 11 лет назад +18

      snickerz52 dave mustaine co-wrote ride the lightning, so he indeed did the spider chord section of the song
      it was one of the last songs he wrote with metallica, as well as call of ktulu

  • @breal1183
    @breal1183 4 года назад +24

    0:55-1:05 Dave didnt realize he just played Rock Soldiers by Ace Frehley :)

    • @BenKrimson
      @BenKrimson 4 года назад +5

      My fucking god 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Zwellop
      @Zwellop 3 года назад

      Nice catch!

  • @harleyrider7398
    @harleyrider7398 12 лет назад +9

    Dave is one of my top 5 guitar players. I love his work with the Call of Kutlu, Four Horseman, and others. I have tried this spider chord. Yes she can be quite the stubborn because you have to retrain your brain

  • @akimbooR6
    @akimbooR6 8 лет назад +88

    "My previous band" "The other guys"

  • @Robylazarus
    @Robylazarus 7 лет назад +3

    Dave, incredible guitar player... Deep respect from India.

  • @sawyermade5469
    @sawyermade5469 Год назад +1

    He seems like such a chill dude but I heard he goes into straight up beast mode when he's on the sauce.

  • @jean-luclezede3898
    @jean-luclezede3898 2 года назад +3

    I practise every day Mustaine's spider chords ! Good exercise and it gaves me lots of ideas ! THE BEST §§§§§

  • @danihellz
    @danihellz 8 лет назад +80

    He could be referring to MD45, his band from the late 90's :)

    • @trainwreckmetal
      @trainwreckmetal 7 лет назад +12

      Yet Wake Up Dead was released in 1986.

    • @chief999
      @chief999 7 лет назад

      Nice burn.

    • @ferraya2894
      @ferraya2894 7 лет назад +11

      Daniel Cabral He could, but he's actually referring to Metallica, specifically to that one riff in Ride The Lightning...

    • @Aymungoos
      @Aymungoos 6 лет назад +1

      Fer Raya sure he's not talking about panic?

    • @BenKrimson
      @BenKrimson 4 года назад +1

      Well MD.45 was a side project though

  • @elisvideobazaar5299
    @elisvideobazaar5299 4 года назад +10

    I like how no one in this comment section actually namedrops "Dave's previous band"

  • @Sh4dowki11er
    @Sh4dowki11er 10 лет назад +12

    Kick Ass Dave Mustaine for life

  • @kenabiggs
    @kenabiggs 12 лет назад +1

    This spider chord technique is real easy to get ahold of and helps BIG TIME. It is just like Dave says, economy of movement. You get 2 power chords for the price of one...just raise/lower your pinky and strum either strings 5-6 (pinky engaged) or 4-5 (pinky left off). Then slide up and down the neck as you see fit. Check it out on wiki too, great demo video.

  • @Seriusguitarplayer00
    @Seriusguitarplayer00 11 лет назад +2

    He did all of Jump. That was the first song he ever wrote. He said it in an interview.

  • @Kelsie154
    @Kelsie154 11 лет назад +2

    He had writing credits for 2 songs on Ride the Lightning.
    Obviously the title track, and then he wrote The Call of Ktulu.

  • @ghplayer1992
    @ghplayer1992 7 лет назад +2

    the man is a legend an icon an inspiration a complete package of excellence and dexterity.my al time favorite.

  • @jameslr1800
    @jameslr1800 7 лет назад +2

    Thank You Dave Mustaine for created the best songs of my life

  • @InsaneMTL
    @InsaneMTL 11 лет назад +3

    The riff before Kirk Hammets Solo in Leper Messiah is one of my favorite Metallica riffs .. so is the spider chord riff of Ride the Lightning

  • @16YearsInHell
    @16YearsInHell 12 лет назад +1

    I love how these arguments begin with two people and end with two different people.

  • @alexgruss4636
    @alexgruss4636 12 лет назад +2

    I'm french and I just nothing understand what dave said but just see him is awesome for me hehe

  • @g0reh0und
    @g0reh0und 9 лет назад +82

    OH GOD MY HANDS

  • @robconerty5164
    @robconerty5164 8 месяцев назад

    It's 2062, I'm 93 years old, and I'm still trying to perfect the spider chord. It has yet to come together.

  • @VinceRussia
    @VinceRussia 12 лет назад

    this technique helps for a lot of songs in the whole scene of heavy metal. hard rock and rock, nice job Dave the whole world of guitarists must thank you for this

  • @DARK-kt6tq
    @DARK-kt6tq 10 лет назад +11

    A Zoom-In Would Have Been Nice. Damn You Camera Man!

  • @bobjames1992
    @bobjames1992 11 лет назад

    Anything with credit to Mustaine on the first 2 albums means that he wrote at least part of the song. In his case being a guitarist means that he wrote some of the riffs. 'Ride the Lightning' has a Spider Chord riff so my guess is that he at least wrote that riff.

  • @honigdachs.
    @honigdachs. 3 года назад +1

    I came up with this awesome "spider chord" technique a fucking century ago while just casually dorking around with some powerchords. Yeah Dave, tell us how you got the Nobel prize for discovering that water gets colder when you put it in the fridge.

  • @TomLeach-dd8cl
    @TomLeach-dd8cl Год назад

    Thanks dave! Been playing it wrong since 1994!!

  • @janti1455
    @janti1455 6 лет назад +2

    You're awesome Dave.
    Never let anyone tell you different ! Keep doing all that you do. 😆😁😎

  • @AyrtonSennaFan97
    @AyrtonSennaFan97 12 лет назад

    The band with the 'Slayer guy' was Megadeth, Kerry King played for Megadeth for a few shows in 1984.

  • @jayrx12
    @jayrx12 12 лет назад

    he was refering to metallica and he meant the ride the lightning song.when he said his "previous" band

  • @JoshReubenking
    @JoshReubenking 12 лет назад

    Exactly. That's it. It's a really good way of switching chords without creating string noise.

  • @joshb4758
    @joshb4758 3 года назад +1

    Wonder what his previous band was ? Hope they’re doing good now

  • @TheMnbassman
    @TheMnbassman 10 лет назад +16

    Thanks Dave! Essential technique!

  • @audiodrugzbassboosts8288
    @audiodrugzbassboosts8288 7 лет назад +6

    iN mY PRevIoUS baNd

  • @ironjaydentaylor8196
    @ironjaydentaylor8196 11 лет назад

    apparently he wrote the main riff in leper and ride, which i dont doubt cause the dude had rust in peace written before he was even in metallica

  • @Anime10Music
    @Anime10Music 6 лет назад +3

    My favorite guitarist

  • @JoshReubenking
    @JoshReubenking 12 лет назад

    If your index finger is on the 5th fret of the A string, and your ring finger is on the 7th fret of the D string, that's a chord. Then if you hold your fingers there and stretch your middle finger over to the E string 6th fret, and pinky over to the D string 8th fret, that's the "spider chord." Dave Mustaine is doing that up the neck. Did that help at least a little? That's the best way I can explain it. There's videos too demonstrating the "spider chord" as well.

  • @Zennakku
    @Zennakku 11 лет назад

    It was on one of the other videos on RUclips about his spider chord. I'll see if I can find it.

  • @ATthemusician
    @ATthemusician 7 лет назад +1

    Easy and effective technique, been using it for years

  • @danishhussain7127
    @danishhussain7127 8 лет назад

    Dave should get noble prize for this invention

  • @gustavegiacopelli7974
    @gustavegiacopelli7974 6 лет назад +6

    He's such a nice guy. All people in metal are nice. When their sober but even on the subject of metallica he sucks it up and says that he made a mistake. But trys to say that metallica would be better with him. Metallica on the other hand thinks the same thing.

  • @MichaelMcMahon95
    @MichaelMcMahon95 12 лет назад

    yeah I'm pretty sure we wasn't in the band when that song/album was getting wrote.

  • @pincheburro956
    @pincheburro956 7 лет назад +1

    Absolute genius behind that guitar

  • @robertsilano5260
    @robertsilano5260 11 лет назад

    There's no reason to hate so much, kirk isn't a pentatonic shredder, more so major/minor just like the flow of most music, he uses lots of chromatic patterns too. Learn before you burn on a youtube comment..

  • @garyhawkins4473
    @garyhawkins4473 10 лет назад +12

    WOW! Love that sound!

  • @justamanchimp
    @justamanchimp 11 лет назад +2

    God, he stutters like a true addict..

  • @avocadopeel7536
    @avocadopeel7536 3 года назад

    "I don't have much time to stare at the guitar".... **does nothing but stare at the fretboard while playing**

  • @playboyzxz
    @playboyzxz 12 лет назад +1

    I'm really practicing it. Thanks for your Incentive!

  • @watsonfiveohthree
    @watsonfiveohthree 12 лет назад +1

    Becker is awesome - anyone not familiar with his work check out Altitudes or any of the Cacophony stuff with Marty Friedman. Just imagine what Jason would have done if ALS had not altered his life forever. Not only as a guitarist, but as a human, Jason is an inspiration to all.

  • @xOWNAGEx1
    @xOWNAGEx1 11 лет назад

    Glad we're on the same page.

  • @ItsTime2Burn
    @ItsTime2Burn 9 лет назад +18

    Does he mean ride the lightning? If so, idea he wrote that.

    • @MakuziTheInuk
      @MakuziTheInuk 9 лет назад +34

      +Bats he did write that riff in rtl

    • @atranfanatic
      @atranfanatic 6 лет назад

      Which is probably why Ride The Lightning is my favorite Metallica album. It has so much of a Mustaine and Megadeth feeling in it. You can hear it with the riffing in the songs.

  • @_jony711
    @_jony711 4 года назад

    You are a legend you say that your previous band was metallica

  • @opieangst
    @opieangst Год назад

    took me a few tries, but i got it! I never in 15 years thought to use my fingers to "cheat" that way 😅😅 thanks Dave!!

  • @christopher-es7lw
    @christopher-es7lw 10 месяцев назад

    You're the man Dave!! 🤘

  • @guldrev
    @guldrev 11 лет назад

    if you are going to quote him i would like to know where i can find the original text

  • @maroonsoccer07
    @maroonsoccer07 12 лет назад

    ok thank you so much! And can you use it with just 3 fingers to switch from say an E A power chord to an A D power chord?

  • @MrDizzyvonclutch
    @MrDizzyvonclutch 10 лет назад

    Awesome genious like Dave's is great cuz he can reinvent something that is 1,000 yrs. old and forgotten just by being awesome!

  • @donjuan1654
    @donjuan1654 11 лет назад +2

    Much respect for Dave, he so underrated as a guitarists. Megadeth rulzzz!

  • @DARRINCONNOR1
    @DARRINCONNOR1 12 лет назад

    Check out Daves middle break, solo in that song. It will keep you up at night, trying to get it rite.

  • @Fergie44FTW
    @Fergie44FTW 11 лет назад

    watch him teach Dave Navarro spider chords (search it), he plays the ride the lightning riff when he says "the way i did it in metallica"

  • @ironjaydentaylor8196
    @ironjaydentaylor8196 11 лет назад

    he wrote metal militia, the four horsemen, the phantom lord, jump in the fire, leper messiah, and the riff in ride

  • @dannyhood66
    @dannyhood66 12 лет назад

    Dave trips me out, he's alright , Overdosed too many times, hospital pronounced him dead for week ,i heard on vh1 Mustaine lives like he plays, very rare

  • @howtoshootstraighthtss4948
    @howtoshootstraighthtss4948 6 лет назад

    Nice! Dave mustaine also wrote the song ride the lightning, there is a part on it, this technique applies

  • @Invocated_Agitator
    @Invocated_Agitator 7 лет назад

    So cool! Thanks uncle Dave! You're the best!

  • @justaS33ker
    @justaS33ker 12 лет назад

    I'm not saying I'm any good (cuz I'm not), but I kind of discovered this accidentally.
    So it is called a "Spider Chord". I sort of did these on a seven string guitar when I was trying to play Drop-D riffs on a standard-tuned instrument.

  • @maroonsoccer07
    @maroonsoccer07 12 лет назад

    So it's just being able to switch between two chords without moving your hand?

  • @skylerstritzel
    @skylerstritzel 11 лет назад

    I think it's badass that Dave does these.Right on Dave.The children are our future or some crap like that.

  • @Czartor645
    @Czartor645 11 лет назад +1

    Well... it makes sense. Thanx Dave.

  • @adrianfong5783
    @adrianfong5783 6 лет назад

    Is he referring to panic Metallica or md45 ?

  • @satria_ari_777
    @satria_ari_777 10 лет назад +22

    Dave is a Legend

  • @DARK-kt6tq
    @DARK-kt6tq 10 лет назад

    Holy Slick That Was Sick!

  • @stckyfngr9407
    @stckyfngr9407 6 лет назад

    Holy shit he's living in 2040 while we are all stuck in 2018

  • @cthulhumetaltuner1992
    @cthulhumetaltuner1992 7 лет назад

    lol I'm ghaving a good time practicing spider chords. It's quite hard to start off, but when u're learning, it goes more fluent as u practice more.

  • @MichaelMcMahon95
    @MichaelMcMahon95 12 лет назад

    he didn't play them, he wrote them, Dave got kicked out before ride the lighting came out

  • @dudemanbobthing
    @dudemanbobthing 11 лет назад

    He also probably uses it (at least I do) when he wrote no remorse. That's really the only way to hammer on a power chord.

  • @ironjaydentaylor8196
    @ironjaydentaylor8196 11 лет назад

    i know he just wrote parts, and actually he wrote the four horsemen complete in all because they changed the lyrics after he left,, and if you actually look it up he has unclaimed rights to leper messiah its in his book and online

  • @Jeeeewce
    @Jeeeewce 12 лет назад

    simply genius... my new favorite guitarist for sure

  • @davidbaker234
    @davidbaker234 7 лет назад

    I think that this sounds like the ride the lightning riff it would make sense because the had to change the ride the lightning riff so james could sing and play guitar at the same time

  • @6Skel6ton6
    @6Skel6ton6 12 лет назад

    and do you know which song with spider chord riff it actually was? i just want to listen to that song...

  • @rampage222555
    @rampage222555 12 лет назад

    he seems awfully proud of that progression though he never really uses it live, or in many songs either(if not only on wake up dead)...

  • @cheothegeo2742
    @cheothegeo2742 12 лет назад

    there's a reason he's one of the pioneers of thrash metal.

  • @PeterPretorius-
    @PeterPretorius- 12 лет назад

    Very interessting tip Dave! I have never seen James Hetfield of Metallica using the "spider chord". He holds the guitar so low and with such a low guitar positon it is impossible to play spider chords. Doesn´t mean that James is a bad guitar player.

  • @jman2102001
    @jman2102001 8 лет назад +8

    The problem is I do my power chords with my pinky adding an octave to the root, so I just suffer

    • @DannyDGeorgia
      @DannyDGeorgia 8 лет назад +2

      so for this song, or song's like this, you would have to play power chords with your index and ring.

    • @kristijankocjancic3236
      @kristijankocjancic3236 7 лет назад

      Xclusivity Ikr. I had to "unlearn" the root octave, just so I could play the spider chord.

    • @jman2102001
      @jman2102001 7 лет назад

      3 months later, I've learned to switch from 3 string to 2 string, and learned when I shouldn't add the root when it comes to how it sounds.

    • @preoikschatnico
      @preoikschatnico 7 лет назад +2

      I broke the habit of adding the octave quite quickly, since in most cases the two-string powercord just sounds much better

    • @theali8oras274
      @theali8oras274 7 лет назад

      Heh im having trouble doing that , as i ve got used on using my 1st and 4th fingers for simple 2 fret powerchords

  • @trevorbaker6491
    @trevorbaker6491 11 лет назад +13

    Lol I've seen Kirk Hammett wear that shirt too.

  • @maroonsoccer07
    @maroonsoccer07 12 лет назад

    Pardon me if I'm being a bit of a noob, but I have been playing guitar for a few months, and I want to figure out how to utilize the spider chord because I feel like I'm doing it wrong. Can someone help explain it to me? I'm probably just a slow learner. Btw, Dave Mustaine is jaw droppingly good.